When the Marvel Cinematic Universe's continuity is on point: Strücker, List, and Theta Protocol

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and the buildup to the Battle of Sokovia.
    The material in this video belongs to Marvel Studios. This is a fair use edit.

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  • @StarwoodProductions
    @StarwoodProductions 11 місяців тому +117

    Strucker: NO SURRENDER!!!
    Also Strucker: I am going to surrender...

  • @PenneySounds
    @PenneySounds  Рік тому +196

    You know what's crazy? This entire video had zero copyright claims. Completely passed copyright detection.

    • @anomaly395
      @anomaly395 Рік тому +8

      Lucky. UA-cam copyright is really weird sometimes.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  Рік тому +32

      @@anomaly395 The Disney-owned Marvel stuff rarely gives me copyright problems. It's kind of surprising. But usually at least something gets detected, even if they don't block the video. Usually soundtrack stuff though. My Fisk video got claimed by Yo-Yo Ma.

    • @nomansblog2025
      @nomansblog2025 10 місяців тому

      Crazy? I was crazy once

    • @carlosrivas1629
      @carlosrivas1629 6 місяців тому +6

      Your showing that Kevin Fiege cares about story not just money.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@carlosrivas1629 I wish. Copyright claims are automated. Sometimes you just get lucky and don't get claimed. It's just crazy that a video this long completely passed the checks.

  • @inaminayo5327
    @inaminayo5327 2 місяці тому +24

    The funniest thing to me about this, is seeing all of the subterfuge, maneuvering, espionage, strategizing, betrayal, and mind games played between Shield and Hydra, and then seeing the Avengers just drop in with no clue about what's going on and trivializing it all.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  Місяць тому +12

      Months of List's scheming, and Tony just repulsors him to death

  • @Unversed333
    @Unversed333 Рік тому +87

    17:23-17:40
    Gotta say, that was oddly satisfying to see that shocked expression from Gonzales when he hears that Fury is alive. Guess his team didn't do enough digging into Coulson.

    • @danielhaire6677
      @danielhaire6677 7 місяців тому +8

      Gonzales should have been very happy that Coulson wasn't a vindictive bastard. Gonzales sat on the stealth craft that Coulson had needed. This forced Coulson to do the split op that cost Hartley and her team their lives. Coulson had every reason to rip GOnzaled and his board's spines out, and he still looked past it to the mission. Fury would have done worse.

  • @ariaspistachios
    @ariaspistachios 6 місяців тому +101

    "Herr Strücker, it's the Avengers!"
    "Can we hold them?"
    "... They're the Avengers."

  • @Skypost4ever
    @Skypost4ever 6 місяців тому +105

    When people say agents of shield isn't canon, show them this video.

    • @orangeheartguy
      @orangeheartguy 6 місяців тому +5

      I was just about to type this.
      It's SOOOOO coherent

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  5 місяців тому +27

      Unfortunately people who believe that are totally immune to evidence. They're the flat earthers of the Marvel fandom.

    • @roseheart270
      @roseheart270 4 місяці тому

      Yeah Sorry James Gunn.

    • @wayneadams9102
      @wayneadams9102 4 місяці тому +3

      AOS is forever canon.

    • @LightStreak567
      @LightStreak567 3 місяці тому

      I'm surprised they are saying that now. They weren't saying it when Agents of Shield was still continuing up until season 7.

  • @luketurner314
    @luketurner314 6 місяців тому +36

    20:13 "Good talk" "No it wasn't" lmao

    • @D50Music
      @D50Music 5 місяців тому +2

      😂😂

  • @TheHummbug
    @TheHummbug Рік тому +56

    This series of videos deserves significantly more views, beautifully edited!

  • @accidentalmadness1708
    @accidentalmadness1708 5 місяців тому +26

    You could have titled it “why AOS is cannon”

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  5 місяців тому +6

      Could almost call the whole series that

  • @garethjennings7192
    @garethjennings7192 6 місяців тому +11

    Strucker is an old enemy of shield he should have been in the tv show agents of shield

  • @thomaskirkham45
    @thomaskirkham45 Рік тому +60

    One thing the early aos did good was MCU continuity

    • @stefsmurf
      @stefsmurf 6 місяців тому +4

      Blame that woman hating bigot Ike Perlmutter. After Disney bought Marvel, he, Kevin Fergie, and Joesph Loeb basically had a fight for control, and while Perlmutter lost, he did damage on the way out. He basically x'ed marvel tv shows to marvel movies for so long, that even the little that happened in AoS was a battle. That's why there was no crossovers until Kevin took over all of MCU, and Kevin folded TV shows into that as well. That's why we're suddently seeing Daredevil and Kingpin in both tv shows, disney shows and apparently future MCU films. Perlmutter is also why there were no female lead MCU film for so long, as he didn't think it would sell. Same as PoC lead films.

    • @jacobharris954
      @jacobharris954 6 місяців тому +1

      Disney bought marvel 2011, avengers and A.O.S came 2012 and 2013 respectively, continuity was a one way street movies to tv, not back and forth

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  6 місяців тому +5

      @@stefsmurf A lot of what you said isn't true

    • @stefsmurf
      @stefsmurf 6 місяців тому

      @@PenneySounds Then please refute. Because a lot of this is somewhat general knowledge for those aware of how the MCU was run in the early days. Hell, Variety wrote an article describing years of fighting over creative control between Kevin vs Perlmutter, and that was 2 minutes of googling. So saying 'a lot of what you said isn't true', i'll have a hard time believing you know more.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  6 місяців тому

      @@stefsmurf There were disputes between Feige and Perlmutter that mostly had to do with Perlmutter's attempts to interfere with the films. But everything you said about that preventing crossovers between the films and shows is just untrue.

  • @ShinySephiroth1
    @ShinySephiroth1 5 місяців тому +6

    This series of videos are exactly the kind of thing I love. Thank you!

  • @jacobharris954
    @jacobharris954 6 місяців тому +11

    Me just clicking on to what cousin is doing. This should go viral

  • @Imm0rta1us
    @Imm0rta1us 17 днів тому +1

    When people say AOS is not canon
    Me: winter soldier, civil war, AOS
    I love how in depth they go to add background on the activation of hydra in shield, seeing the fallout of Steve and Tony in S3, everything in AOS how they found Loki’s scepter, the helicarier in AOS was made by Coulson. I fucking love AOS

  • @everettparker1313
    @everettparker1313 4 дні тому

    Throughout Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker in The Marvel Cinematic Universe. But I love that Baron Strucker had a lot of Connections around The Marvel Cinematic Universe and Plus Thomas Kretschman was Truly Perfectly Casted to Bring Baron Wolfgang to Live Action.

  • @wayneadams9102
    @wayneadams9102 4 місяці тому +2

    On point doesn't even begin to describe it.

  • @calebwen8917
    @calebwen8917 8 місяців тому +5

    Loving the edits. We also learn more about Strucker and List and the Prelude comic for AoU! Have you ever considered putting some tie-in comic panels in your videos?

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  6 місяців тому +1

      It's not quite the same when it's just a still image with no audio.

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 Рік тому +5

    Great video

  • @ribo07h
    @ribo07h 3 місяці тому +1

    the magic of agents of shield

  • @LiterallyJustBatman
    @LiterallyJustBatman 20 днів тому

    Now all we need is Ghostrider

  • @smakajo400
    @smakajo400 5 місяців тому +1

    Miracle's, powered people, finally are Mutants.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  5 місяців тому +2

      The powered people in AOS were either enhanced because of a specific incident, or Inhumans who underwent Terrigenesis.
      Except for Chan Ho Yin, AKA Scorch. He definitely seemed to be a mutant.

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 5 місяців тому

      @@PenneySounds Scorch got his powers from the Wan Tai power plant. He couldn't be a mutant because Fox wouldn't let Marvel use mutants at the time.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  5 місяців тому

      @@SeanWheeler100 He was in the area of a nuclear power plant that burned down, but so were millions of other people. That was FitzSimmons' best guess as to where his power came from, but it doesn't add up. His abilities were part of his biology. Like he was adapted to them. He only makes sense as a mutant.

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 5 місяців тому

      @@PenneySounds But Marvel couldn't use mutants at the time. In fact, they've retconned the origins of non-X-Men mutants like Squirrel Girl in the comics to not get them tangled in Fox's rights.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  5 місяців тому

      @@SeanWheeler100 They never used the word, but he still fits the description.

  • @garethjennings7192
    @garethjennings7192 6 місяців тому +1

    1:26 to 1:41 haven’t seen that scene before where’s that scene from?

  • @agalgonzalez
    @agalgonzalez 3 місяці тому

    Who would want the density of lead and the reactivity of cesium?

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  3 місяці тому +1

      Somebody who REALLY wants to win a boxing match.
      ua-cam.com/video/mH7gxhpR2rs/v-deo.htmlsi=Pf4vJWfCRLLJOUnZ

  • @milkdudder
    @milkdudder Рік тому +4

    Where was that first clip from?

  • @KingLofiOne
    @KingLofiOne 22 дні тому

    There really, really, really is no Ü in "von Strucker".

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  22 дні тому

      @@KingLofiOne There is in this one. They make quite a point of it.

  • @JefferyAClark
    @JefferyAClark 6 місяців тому +6

    Agents of SHIELD was great when it was still tied-in to the MCU... where it went off the rails is when they divorced it entirely into its own timeline.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  6 місяців тому +6

      That never happened. It tied into the MCU even in its last episode

    • @jacobharris954
      @jacobharris954 6 місяців тому +1

      @@PenneySounds it did last episode

    • @N1lav
      @N1lav 6 місяців тому +1

      That's because the MCU execs always tried to alienate AOS, therefore in the last season they moved AOS off earth. It was sad but they had to
      al lteh contunuity was just some notes passing hands. no official tie-in or support for AOS

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  6 місяців тому +4

      @@N1lav Wow, nothing you just said is true.

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 5 місяців тому +1

      How come Agents of SHIELD wasn't affected by the Snap? Sure, there's a chance the whole team could survive the Snap, but why in Season 6 haven't they helped anyone suffering from their losses from the Snap? The Snap was almost mentioned in Season 7 but it was deleted.

  • @taylorlinyard3533
    @taylorlinyard3533 5 місяців тому

    I know this show has good and bad moments but I do feel bad this whole thing is not canon.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  5 місяців тому +1

      Then you'll be pleased to learn that it is canon.

    • @taylorlinyard3533
      @taylorlinyard3533 5 місяців тому

      @@PenneySounds is it? I mean I’d love it if it was it’s just not in the Disney plus timeline or even their official timeline book.

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  5 місяців тому

      @@taylorlinyard3533 That's not what makes something canon or not.

    • @ran-te3gz8ed2j
      @ran-te3gz8ed2j 2 місяці тому

      @@PenneySounds Daredevil was considered non-canon up until the overhaul of Born Again. Marvel Studios initial plan was to make Daredevil Born Again a soft reboot, as the TV shows weren't canon. Then, once the overhaul happened they re-thought their plan and canonized Daredevil, adding it to the Disney+ timeline.
      Daredevil was left out of the Disney+ timeline up until January 2024 because it wasn't canon until then. Agents of Shield is still not canon. A lot of people wish it was, and consider it canon in theri heads. But it's not

    • @PenneySounds
      @PenneySounds  2 місяці тому

      @@ran-te3gz8ed2j Everything you just said is completely incorrect. You can already see how Hawkeye and Echo directly connected to the story of the previous Daredevil series, and they were produced before Born Again. Brad Winderbaum even said he was surprised that people wanted confirmation that the defenders shows were canon and that it wasn't just assumed. Born Again was never going to be any kind of reboot. It just wasn't originally going to be as full of overt connections and character appearances.