US Marine reacts to the Weapons of the German Army
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2023
- Marines are naturally very interested in weapons and I have to say, Germany produces some of the best out there!
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The most important thing in Germany is the Sicherheitsüberprüfung.
Jes That’s realy wichtig whith out This nichts geht
@@Andre-German-Soldier-OFA-BWK-BDanke für deinen Dienst 🫡 wenn du das sagst dann stimmt das wohl auch 😂
Without the Sicherheitsüberprüfung you can never be sicher ob the pischdole funktionieren tut or if its teilgeladen or ungesichert and then you shoot yourself in the eggs.
Yes, if a german word has more than one umlaut, it's very, very important 😂
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They are using the silver bullets to kill werewolves, which we have a lot of in german woods.
😂😂😂😂
You right you so right. When i go in the wood i have a silver fork with me!
😂😂👍🇩🇪
Former German soldier here (2008-2021). The terrain model briefing you see at 12:15 is a standard procedure. It's called "Gelände Sandkasten".(Sand Box briefing). It is good for visualization to everyone involved and makes a huge difference compared to written orders and/or vocal briefings
Danke für deinen Dienst.
Danke für dein Dienst.
@@ardwetha @ranger94 danke für die netten Worte! Bei der aktuellen politischen Lage bekommt man teilweise ein schlechtes Gewissen eingeredet wenn man gedient hat oder sich zu seinem Land bekennt. Teilweise wurde ich hier auch schon wie andere aktive und ehem. Kameraden als "Volksverräter" bezeichnet. Dafür dass man dem eigenen Land gedient hat. Einfach unfassbar.
Ich wollte Berufssoldat werden aber damals in den 70ern war es schwer eine Stelle zu bekommen, so waren es dann nur 4 Jahre, dann habe ich 1979 Schluß gemacht weil es keine Chance gab weiter zu kommen, es gab einfach mehr als genug Personal.
@@NathanieI87 so ein Bullshit von denen, die sollten lieber froh sein.. Dran, drauf, drüber 🤞🏻
German mechanized infantry here. The G36 in the video is an older version of the gun, we are lucky to have the IDZ upgrade (Infantrist der Zukunft), which also brings new guns like the G36A3/KA3 & A4 with it. We also have the MG5, which is the substitute to the MG3. Most of us still prefer the MG3, especially because there's upgrades to it which bring it up to today's standards, but the MG5 is nevertheless a good machine gun. We don't have the GraMaWa (Grenade machine gun, the heavy thing dude's carrying) here, but that's what we have IFVs for :P
Es ist kein Mensch, es ist kein Tier, es ist ein Panzergrenadier :)
Trete niemals auf einen grünen Stein, denn es könnte ein Panzergreni sein…😇
O-Ton Grundausbildung: "Tiefste Gangart! Ihr sollt mit der Nase eine furche ziehen und mit den Eiern wieder zu schieben." 😂
Any news on the Steyr Made G62 metal upper / upgrade package rolling out for field testing by troops?
@@teppouotinen9136 it’s pretty much safe to say that we’re gonna acquire HK416‘s instead, which is not a bad choice. It’s just stupid that all the newer G36 versions are gonna be replaced as well, because they’re actually pretty good & adaptable guns
Most german Bundeswehr training sites are public areas that get closed off once or twice a week for training. As a kid i used to ride around one of those sites with my mountainbike, collecting casings
brass goblin
Yep the town park in several cities in my area are also training grounds... (only blank ammo). They simply close some gates, let a few balloons rise (red, marks active training areas), then a few signs and a call to the local police so they know and have to respond to Gunfire....
Huh, even as a German I did not know that, interesting
@@dalob112 Im Gegensatz zur Behauptung hier, ist das auch nicht meistens so, sondern sehr selten. Viele Übungsgelände sind zumindest in Teilen zugänglich, wenn keine Übungen sind, aber öffentlich kann man das nicht nennen.
@@1991apfel huh, maybe i misunderstand, but why needs the police to respond to gunfire when there is training? or is there missing a "not" which changes the sentence to "not responding to gunfire?"
Oh cool, some German content! We hadn't that in quite a while!
Those "Welt" documentaries are not the best to be honest as they are rather cheap TV documentaries made for the general public. But the fact that they also translating them to English nowadays is quite nice, although the translation is a bit odd sometimes, especially when they translate specific military terms.
A couple of remarks:
- The G27 is just the Bundeswehr designation for the HK417 in DMR configuration. More common is the G28 though, which is an HK MR308 (the civilian variant of the HK417) adopted as a military DMR by the Bundeswehr (and also by the US Army as the M110A1).
- The MG5 is the sucessor for the MG3 (MG42 chambered in 7.62 NATO) which it has been replacing for the past 10 years. Between these two there's also the MG4, which is very similar to the MG5, but chambered in 5.56 just like your M249.
- 13:58 Pistol sidearms are pretty common in the Bundeswehr on actual combat deployments, where pretty much every single soldier is equipped with a sidearm in addition to the primary weapon.
Its atleast one "good" investments of our taxes here in germany fpr this documentaries. :D
G27 is in use with German SF for quite a while now and it's proven to be at 1,5MOA accuracy with standard issued ammo. BTW, it is an HK417.
That silver shining bullets are something the Bundeswehr is currently testing. It basically is a coating that creates less friction in the barrel so theoretically, barrels should last longer.
The penetration they mentioned earlier ist meant as penetration towards brick walls. An issue they figured out in Afghanistan where the 5,56 wouldn't go thru walls of those typical compounds.
For standard body armor the 5,55 is somewhat OK-ish.
The Jacked Looks like it is Made of Messing with a low copper Part and Maby some crome
Sorry for my Bad Englisch
All true
But the G27 in the Army is already being replaced for the G28
Which is a semi-auto HK417 (MR308) with an LPVO and a longer barrel
@@Frontline_view_kaiser as far as I know the KSK/KSM as well as some EGB units will still use the G27 for applications, where a bit more punch is needed.
The G28 will replace the Dachs / G3 DMR Version.
I love how there is an expectation to penetrate afghan compound walls with 5.56mm, that are known to withstand a couple hundreds of years of erosion, multiple invasions and typically couldn't be penetrated with 7.62mm Ak-47 rounds... 😂
@@shagrat47 It was less an expectation. more like an experience. And the answer to that experience is the 7,62x51. The bigger the better!
The G36 often receives criticism when it comes to accuracy after longer bursts, due to the barrel overheating. If I remember correctly this is a bit of divisive issue, with Bundeswehr soldiers either agreeing with those criticisms or thinking they are completely unfounded.
Less of a gun issue. More of an ammo issue.
What the Bundeswehr used in Afghanistan, was pretty much shit.
But again, had nothing to do with the G36.
A German-led investigation found that two mags of sustained fire practically rendered the barrels useless. The G36 free-floating barrels were highly-susceptible to overheating and warping that accuracy would drop to less than 10% at 100 meters.
No it was proven that there was no issue. The Problem was that after 8 Magazines the accuracy dropped of. Pretty much like any other rifle that isn't made for sustained fire. Read the government report @@bjornjwagner7252
Of course its just nonsens. Because of Business and new contracts.....it's all about money!
@@HolgerLovesMusic as well as "misusing" it. They used it more as a machine gun and overheated the barrel. Therefore it is common sense that the accuracy will suffer
The only bad thing about shooting the MP7 is that I'm no longer in the German army and now can't do it anymore. Only had the oppportunity to do it 2 times before I left, but those were enough to make a lasting impression. 2nd best thing of being in the artillery, with the first being watching the artillery actually pour fire at any target.
Join the reserves, either in the active force or in one of the homeland defense regiments that are currently being established :)
Das KSK hat auch die MP7, eigentlich hauptsächlich. Die MP5 wurde fast komplett abgelöst dadurch.
Kampfretter & die Panzertruppe auch ab und zu, wobei die manchmal stattdessen G36 im Leo mitführen
Bei der Polizei in BW haben wir auch die MP7. Das Teil macht echt Spaß und ist Idiotensicher.
Als Schweizer könntes5 du dir ne halbautomatische zivile MP7 kaufen. In Deutschland „natürlich“ nicht….
The range problem with 5.56 was observed in Afghanistan, and also by the US troops... The open terrain there allowed for much longer ranges, and the enemy used 7.62x39 outranging the 5.56 rifles, plus the smaller rounds had issues penetrating the mud walls. Before the G27, the G3 was brought back as DMR/EBR
The 5.56 tumbles upon impact too. That’s how these small calibers are so deadly, they’re fast and have a tendency to tumble
This was only the case with early 1:12 twist ratio M16 barrels. Just enough stability to get to the target without tumbling but starts doing it upon impact. Later more agressive twist ratios don't do that.
However despite being small the 5.56 carries a lot of energy. It is really fast, especially out of longer barrels.
The 4x30 Hensoldt has an excelent field of view (140 m at 1000), image quality and a very forgiving eye box + 65mm eye relief. Also BDC reticle. Only cons are price and weight.
great video! Thanks for your reactions. As a German i would love to see more videos of you reacting to Bundeswehr vehicle and weaponsystems
Als Ex-Soldat möchte ich lieber weniger sehen. Du mußt dir immer im klaren sein, dass diese HOCHTECHNOLOGISCHEN WAFFEN, irgendwann gegen dich gerichtet sein können. Meiner Ansicht nach ein Fehler, dass wir zu viele neue technischen Waffen veröffentlichen. FAZIT: ICH MÖCHTE MIT DEN BESTEN WAFFEN AUSGERÜSTET SEIN, UND 50 m früher präzise schießen können.
One of the most important things is, that the german Army uses a complete other doctrin that the US does. It´s a ground defending Force - not for attacking enemy countrys. They can do a counter attack, but most weapons are more for defence than for attacking. That´s the reason why german ground forces used a G3 for so long time. This weapons allows to surpess enemy attacks over a very long distance effectivly.
lol bla
i had my military service 1999-2000 and was able to shoot the G3 and the G36. not sure what versions they were but i enjoyed both. the G3 (iron sight) was heavier but had an immense fire-power and good accuracy, while the G36 (red dot) was very light and came with a foldable stock to increase mobility in close quarter engagements.
As a designated marksman with the Panzergrenadiere I had a modified G3, the HK G3 SK1. Designed as a sniper rifle with piercer, scope and bipedal.
I live near the practice area shown in the video. The large amount of graffiti on the buildings is due to the fact that the area is not fenced in and in principle anyone can walk around there. You can collect all the leftover training ammunition there 😄
Greetings from the Black Forest!
We even Had some Underground Techno Parties in this buildings in the 90s... good memories ;)
@@hauzasan3380Yup...guude Zeiten🎉😂👍🍻
Most of the Training Areas are not fenced. I've lived right next to the second largest Training area and my Father is the second commander of the Field. Sadly many people shit on the warning signs and often the training needs to stop, until it's completly safe again
@@dasmaurerle4347q
"You can collect all the leftover training ammunition there" - Did that in my teenage years...after the practice shooting was over.
My friend wanted to take a look at the small white grenade i found and then smacked it onto the grassy ground right in front of us.
Which left a crater of about 20cm in diameter, ~3-5cm deep. And a ringing in our ears, lasting a good 10 minutes.
Injection molding is just a way to produce parts of it. Instead of casting them and milling away flashing and such, you just injection mold it like plastic parts, just on a whole other scale since you inject molten metal into a metal mold. The automation increase and makes it substantially faster way to manufacture with once it's in serial production. One machine could probably spit out up to a hundred of the same part per day, faster than likely they have capacity to assemble them.
MG5 ist ein Spielzeug. Bin ich froh das ich noch das MG3 als MG Schütze haben durfte.
Richtig, ich hatte es auch
The bullets jacket is made of tinned copper. The tin coating is to prevent corrosion of the copper in areas with high humidity.
In the Finnish army we used some aluminum core ammo in live fire exercises involving bounding etc, but I think the jacket was still copper.
In weapons familiarization I fired an MG3. My ammo can lasted 2 seconds.
Edit: I should point out I did it on purpose. My punishment was to clean all the weapons used that day, but it was totally worth it.
Edit 2: With the pistol we use, I was taught to aim at the groin. Not many body armor systems cover that area. You have 2 gigantic blood vessels in the groin (external iliac artery and vein) and all the pelvic organs (bladder, lower part of the intestines and yes, your wee wee) and bones, which if shattered will put you in the ground because of biomechanics (that shattered bone will no longer be able to provide stability)
German Army Firearms Instructor here; with the Pistol we train the soldiers to aim for the head, if the first two rounds to the chest didnt stop the enemy. With the rifle we train them to aim for the lower body/groin area because otherwise we had to aim "in the blue" in short distances, because our reddot sights are mounted that high above the barell, we had to aim over the target.
the P8 pistol i already had during my Bundeswehr conscript times at the beginning of the 2000nds.. i still remember the steps for disassemble and reassemble the parts with eyes closed
I like your comments very much, Sir ! No unprofessional bla or heroism, no commercials... just commenting short and clear, pros and cons. You offer such an honest mirror for all these issues, for me especially about those units, that I I never met in our former 15 month Bundeswehr service. Thanks for the interesting aspects and your fine humour, shining through your experiance, when it`s about details, which look different at first sight :)
31:11 No, it is not a bullpup. Bullpups have the barrel set all the way back, which is also why the magazine is behind the main handle.
Bullpup just means the barrel is placed as far back as can be, making the cartridge feed being behind the trigger handle.
The MP7 feeds mags through the handle, like any other regular pistol. And regular rifles even feed in front of the trigger handle. So maybe it could be considered half a bullpup, but not really, since a bullpup feeds behind the main grip. It's simply a compact machine pistol with mini rifle rounds. Great stuff after all!
We used the G3 and you realy get used to the weight. And I prefer the punch and accuracy of 7.62 over any 5.56, no matter if it is the G36 or the Famas (which I could try). There is a difference between "stuck in the wall or hit through the wall".
that G3 had a really big punch.. i remember that 😅
@@yukuzoona6604Shooting through 4 trees in a row haha
@@yukuzoona6604 this is the assault carbine version of the G3 figuratively :D
I agree with u here, even if the g36 was my usall weapon, we could shoot the g3 on serveral exercises and i also loved the kick. It felt so fking different, it gave u the feeling of havin "impact" :D
Former German Marine Sgt. here. The ammo seen at 24:45 is called "weichkern Munition" (soft-core ammo) made of lead. in the Bundeswehr we use it in training because its cheaper as fmj or "Hartkern" like you said. When i was first trained at the MG5 in 2018 in the Seebataillon i had a gun von a low three digit serial number and we got our hand very early on the mg5 when it was released to the troops. I miss the good old times.
danke für den Dienst!
There are no "German Marine Sgt", neither the rank nor the service exist.
@@marcelbork92 in Germany the marines are part of the Navy. They're called Marineinfanteriebootsmann in a Rank of sgt. and trained in for i.e. vessel and harbor protection, anti piracy, urban and cq and many other things. The marines corp in Germany is a Bataillon based in Eckernförde and called Seebataillon. It includes some more companies like reconnaissance, supplies and intelligence(only a Platoon)
Please Tell us your source of informations...
Ähm, all of our military cartridges have full metal jacketed bullets, regardless of whether they have a soft (lead) or hard (steel) core.
@@Krautrock007 you may be right and i apologize for my mistake
I want to mention that the G27 has pretty the same weight as the old G3. When i served in the late 90's in the Bundeswehr we had G3's and also some G36. Of course the G36 was lighter but the G3 had this extra punch when it comes to long range shooting. (300m to 600m). You get used to this weight so that is not an issue. Many of my comrades back than preferred the old G3 over the G36.
was in the Luftwaffe in 1999 and we used primary g3+mg3 and later the g36 - the g36 felt like a toy, while carriing and shooting. no one of us had the feeling that the old g3 or even the mg3 were too heavy, just a question of habits
Moving with the GMG by foot is pretty standart in the German army. In the Mountain infantry we used to Ruck up mountains with it. And yeah it is pretty fucking heavy.
24:30 Germany isn't that far from romania , guess they are using real silver, just for security reasons...
In germany because its so dense, we have our training grounds close to communities. And a lot of people like to visit those places. I also did a old Belgian Big Camp even with a church and cinema.
With regards to the G27, I held an L129A1 at an airshow display once, which looks quite similar overall, and that thing was pretty weighty as well. Surprisingly so. I'd never touched an AR-platform prior to that, having been used the L85s and AKs they often had year on year, and always thought it'd feel a lot lighter. That was without a mag full of 7.62 as well 😅I remember the Minimi always felt light by comparison despite being heavier.
When I was in the Bundeswehr (1999/2000) we used the G3. Back then the G36 was not deployed to all of the troops. I had the opportunity to shoot both weapons. Thus said if I had to choose in war time, it would defenitly be the G3 with it's 7,62x51mm rounds. The G36 felt more like toy.
12:50: G27 is actually a variant of the HK417. And for a piston driven 7.62, 5kg is pretty fair (especially considering they're probably measuring fully loaded). To my knowledge, only the SCAR-H is seriously lighter (at 3.9kg empty). General "compromise" on light 7.62s seems to be 4.5 kg (e.g. the APC 308 with a longer and heavier barrel, incl. mag and open sights is 4.5 kg).
the weapon in the picture is a g28
@@ghostinanutshell4768 yes but there is a G27 to in the video
@@eliasmunzberger25 yes but at 12:50 it is a g 28
There kit and weapons honestly looks so cool.
I love the MP7. It's just fun to shoot with the softair. It has almost no recoil :D
Germany , uk and france which are all nato memebers have some of the best soldiers in NATO and weapons
Poland better
@@davidfans5852 not sure they all part of NATO now , Finland and Sweden are pretty solid too but nobody is better than United States
Germany is really lacking in manpower and up do date ready to go heavy weapons. Not too many operation ready jets for example. But the tech and training is indeed great😊
@@davidfans5852 The only thing Poland is superior in, would be stealing cars. ;)
@@davidfans5852 that's why Poland is buying our weapons 😂
5:40: This also was the magazine capacity of the G3. I think the 5,56 and the 7,62 both have their advantages and setbacks. In Afghanistan, for instance, German infantrymen were met with the smaller bullet being stopped by just clay walls popular in these regions. This of course would not have happened with the larger round, that's why this old battleaxe (the G3, I mean) was not totally discarded!
Those clay walls in Afghanistan even stoped our .50 cal.
Oh man. How often I have stormed ( and „died“) that building in Hardheim. Good times .
4.6mm: It start tumbling *after* impacting a solid body (to increase damage and kinetic energy delivered to the target, as well as shortening overpenetration).
I wanna see a dude on all fours firing that grenade launcher from their back.
That somehow remembers me of an scene, where a american soldier told the german soldier "Its a machine gun... a MACHINE GUN" and ment to just auto fire, while the german soldier was trained to fire bursts...
Cause the old MG3 had such a high fire rate, that the barrel would start to glow and bent after arround 150 shots auto fire... so in under 1 minute... Well, the american machinegun was much slower, so the american yeled at the german to outo fire...
I cant remember how often I stripped that P8 back in the early 2000s. Back in the day this was my primary weapon as a medic.
22:03 fürn Dreh extra nochmal neue Handschuhe geordert, wunderbar.
min. 29:30 >>: it tumbles AFTER impact and causes more harm that way. It does not tumble during the flight to the target! You got it wrong, marine.
I think he meant that if it hits, lets say body armor and tumbles right away i might not penetrate. And he is right, penetration power is lost with tumbling rounds but it makes much more deadlier wound channels.
In any case the standard issue rifle is now slated to be the HK416 which should actually lead to some good synergistic effects since it is also the (new) standard issue rifle of other NATO members such as France, Norway, parts of the U.S. forces (USMC’s M27).
Though I wonder whether the M27 will stay since the Army apparently wants to adopt the 6.8mm SIG MCX Spear so one wonders whether it wouldn’t be prudent for the USMC to piggyback onto that and reap benefits concerning procurement costs…
Mind you though that 6.8mm SIG is not part of the NATO STANAG (yet) iirc so it’s in a somewhat…odd place right now if it were truly to become the new standard calibre for the Army…
i loved my g3. the first g36 was horrible. even windy situation or rain we cant hit a 100m target. i loved to switch the g36 for the mg3, even it was a mess to walk in terrain with those heavy weights. after i was a higher rank i dont need to shoot anymore out of fields so no heavy weaponry. but mg3 on a twin bypod for aircover was really fun or shooting the mg in standing position, it was a crazy punch.
I was in the Bundeswehr for 14 months and I‘ve shot the G36, P8, MG4 and MG5.
MG5 is hell of a weapon and makes a lot of fun to shoot. It’s very accurate. Also the G36 is very accurate, can’t complain
Most of these Weapons are very rare in the German Army. In my 20 years in the Bundeswehr as an active duty NCO and reserve Soldier, there was allways a problem to get the equipmet, weapons and vehicles we needed to fulfill our missions. Even in Afghanistan there was allways a gap between that we should have and what we really got. The video is the wolrd how it should be, but not the reality.
2000s Soldier from the "Instandsetzung" here - can confirm, almost half of our vehicles and equipment weren't usable at that time. Hope things have gotten better.
I had the luck to own a pretty decent G3 that even shot where the sight was pointing. Most of my comrades - not so lucky.
@@Lychnuchus Danke Kamerad.
The P8 has a funny "feature" where if the slide is locked back and you insert a new mag you dont need to touch the slide release to chamber a round you just slap the mag in hard and the slide releases
works with the P30 aswell
Depending on how worn your mag release spring is this works on many other guns.
Not a god thing though in my book.
thx for reacting to my video recommendation :)
17:26 the GMG tripod can also be lower to the ground and it can even be used prone
Nice and Interesting to see the opinion from a US Marine to our Army. As well former german soldier here ( 2007 - 2012 ) . Served and deployed with the G36 , G3ZF, Mp7 as well as the MG3 and i cant say something bad about the G36. But the "New" generations of Firearms that are now in our army are defentley a step up with the HK416 , HK417, MG4 and MG5 . G27 is more likeley a Combat Rifle / Squad Support Weapon, nothing for every Soldier, its not a replacement for the G36 but gives the squad more firepower. On 7:11 it is the HK MG5 7.62 Machinegun that replaced the old MG3 in the Infantry role but not on Vehicles. 12:00 thats called sand box briefing and is a commen way to show all the squad members or leaders the actuall situtation beside of a written briefing. 12:57 Thats as well a G28 our DMR based on the HK417 . 24:30 thats a FMJ Bullet. For training Purpose we only shoot FMJ`s cause its cheap i guess.
2006-2015, LLBrig 26. I also swear on the G36. The upgraded G36KA2 we've got later with the Hensoldt and Eotechs were absolutely great. I was able to handle a KA4 recently, and that thing is a further improvement. Instead of buying the 416 I think they should just have upgraded all the rifles to the A4 standard.
I think the G27 with a 40mm launcher would actually have merit for squad leadership in my opinion. Having good range/visibility and striking power with the .308 rifle with it's optic AND the ability to fire grenades of various non-lethal utility and lethal types would be useful as a squad leader to me. I can see though that the weight, caliber difference and overlapping roles in the squad that use those systems separately may make it more annoying but it'd be nice if the squad layout demands a user with those options.
Having the grenade launcher mounted on the gun would make it even more cumbersome to maneuver though. It would seem many militaries have moved to having a small stand alone grenade launcher, like the HK69A1 in German use. That way you can have a lighter rifle and still be able to fire grenades quickly when needed.
That would be a headache
leading your squad in CQB tho 😂 Leader is issued a standard assault rifle with room for personalization like handgrips & optics. For long distances, you have your DMR guy in the squad (sometimes even snipers, depending on the unit & mission)
Your Mark 19 is also the same one we have, well because it is also a Geutsch development. And the blue ammunition are practice cartridges for training and for better visibility they also have Leutschpur
I didn't know ""Welt" was doing English voice overs. Nice video. 👍
As a guy, who still started his basic training with a G3, i have the impression, the G27 is like a modern version of that one.
A friend of mine (Feldwebel) shot both as DMRs some weeks ago. He said the G27 shoots much more smoothly and allowed for nicer optics but otherwise they are similar in role
@@Kommentareable That reminds me of a story of my service time, when i was an ensign (Fähnrich) and my lieutenant asked me to support him from stumbling back from his firing position, as he wanted to fire ten rounds in a row in full auto and see, how many would be still on the target.......it was more of an anti aircraft shooting, as the G3 has a strong recoil and he could not stand it.
Of course. He was a Lieutenant ☺️
I would agree a bit, in my opinion the g3 feels better in handling then the g27 but as u said g3 is old and the attachments options are limited. A g27 with a S&M optics slaps and it doesnt have the kick of the old G3
It's crazy but out of every military in the world, for the past 100 years, I'd still pick the German equipment and German military as being the most professional and quality so far. I know tons of other countries have amazing kits and equipment (South Korea, Israel, Poland, you name it), but there's something about German equipment that I trust. Not just the quality but the intention in which they built the weapons. For example, the MP7 is exactly what I'd want in a vehicle if I was assaulted by enemy combattants. I think despite the nature of modern Germany as a weakened country compared to it's WW1, WW2, and even West German counterparts, I'd still imagine Germany could defeat many conventional armies on the field, simply due to the quality of their equipment and training. Germany will always be a force to reckon. I think now with the Ukraine war and the decline of France as Europe's center country, Germany is becoming more and more imposing in Europe, and it's military over time will grow to become a powerhouse. Just not this current decade, but the post Ukraine war for sure.
I wished.
😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Germany going down the drain!
more and more...from day to day...
"Welt", is to 100% Bullshit Propaganda!😂
When I was at the Bundeswehr for my military service we had the G3, the P1, Uzi, MG3 and of course our Klappspaten (folding spate). Impressive to see how at least the newer weapons look. We were on several trainings with other NATO countries, including the US Army. All liked the German weapon systems, vehicles, etc. Was always a good feeling to here from soldiers from other countires, that they like or would prefer the German material. That made a good feeling.
When I was in the Norwegian army we used a localized version of the G3 called AG3 chambered for 7.62 Nato round. Heavy and cumbersome, but capable to take out lightly armoured targets on our own. It was later replaced by a lighter rifle using 5.56 rounds ind order to carry more rounds. But there was quite a lot of people against this.
The g36 is way better than propagated.
It was never designed for the desert, an after the many refits it is something i would call reliable.
I liked my G36KA1. I absolutely loved when I received a KA2. That thing was a huge improvement.
The Bundeswehrs new Machine Gun is the MG5 the replacement for the MG3 or how we mostly know it as the MG42 from the second world war
And yes like it’s former counterpart the MG3 you can also easily swap out the barrel of the MG5
Not only Mg5, MG4 with 5,56 too
@@steveyoutub76 i habe not looked or heard about the MG4 in Germany I will look that up now if I remember the mg3 and mg5 ar both in 308 nato
@@steveyoutub76yeah ok the mg4 is in 5.56 nato interesting that I have not heard about the MG4 and I live in Germany
From what I have seen now is that the MG5 is just the MG4 only in 7.62 nato
Ok so it’s like the M249
U shot the MG3? The barrel swap of an MG3 was easy and fast aswell? Thats a reason why they changed the MG42 model beside the rate of fire
21:27 Seedorf. Wow... didn't expect to see that. I live right around the corner (7km or 4.3 miles)
you have to know these Army videos over here font try to be very epic but more down to earth and realistic
Greetings from Germany.
Here is a link to the video from the Bundeswehr itself to compare Mg3 and Mg5 and one for a direct explanation.
The gripod on the side of the Mg5 is new and only came with the introduction of this weapon.
Some call the style “Hilti shooting” like holding a Hilti drill.
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Edit: The Mg5 is called HK121 by Heckler and Koch
In the Greek Army we use Greek licensed built HK weapons.
Standard weapon is the G3A3 for Privates and the G3A4 for Officers and NCOs.
In their modernized version, both weapons weigh 5.7 Kg (12.5 lbs).
The usual ammo load carried is 100 rounds in 4 magazines in two pouches plus one on the rifle.
However, extra magazines can be carried in bandoliers with 5 magazines each.
The SAW used was the HK11, but now they are being replaced with the FN MINIMI (M249).
And the standard LMG is the MG3.
The standard pistol is the HK USP, that replaced the M1911 and is also used by the police forces along side the HK MP-5.
The police ammo is the standard military 9 X 19 mm FMJ ammo.
Other weapons like he GLOCK, the P90 and the Five even are used by SOF forces.
The HK GMG is used mostly in vehicle mounts at the BN support co.
The HK GMG has some additional safety features relative to the Mk-19 and in its latest version has an FCS allowing for airburst 40mm grenades to be fired.
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It is interesting to see the use of the HK GMG as a company support weapon.
The German army has an 81mm mortar platoon with 8 mortars at Battalion level, while the Greek army uses two 81mm mortars per company and 4 heavy 107mm mortars (to be replaced by 120mm mortars) at battalion level.
The Greek SOFs and Marine forces use the M4/M16 rifles and the M203 GL.
Also the SOFs use the mortar 60mm H6C-210 commando:
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it's a training compound but yes ppl often go and grafiti them... but they are military compounds but often "open to public" when not in use
The P8 Magazins if I’m not wrong are out of a semi translucent polymer so you can see the rounds that you still have left if you remove the Magazin from the gun lust like the g36 Magazins and the new g38 Magazins have a window in the Magazins where you can see the rounds
I was in the Bundeswehr 28 years ago and i was in the exact generation where the G-3 was exchanged with the G-36. Ok, i was a Medic and had (officialy^^) only a limited Acces to the wide spread of weapons we had to use.
And believe me, the G-3 was a realy great Rifle. Precise, versatile and reliable. Easy to clean, perfect handling.
The G-36 on the other side (at least in the first days: dont know how it´s doing now)... it got stuck easyly with a small amount of dirt, the Barrel was defforming under to much heat. Making precisly aiming after a few Clips in Full-Auto impossible. It felt like a Plastictoy filled with some lead for the weight.
Actual german infantry here. As someone who has easily 20000+ rounds on the g36 in all kinds of conditions i can assure you that the inaccuracy claims are bullshit. Yes accuracy suffers after a few mags of rapid fire. As is the case on any other assault rifle, (the g36 is not even one of the bad offenders here btw) if you dont believe me theres a pretty good video from InRangeTv on the topic.
But you cant use it as a blub like the g3...
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Ja, der damalige Test der das G36 schlecht gemacht hat war auch einfach lächerlich gewesen, denn kein Soldat nutzt sein Sturmgewehr im vollautomatischen Modus sondern im Einzel oder Feuerstoß, besonders auf normale Kampfentfernung.
@@nox5555 Do that and your G3 would be added to the "only use for basic training"-pool like so many others I've seen, that had the accuracy of a shotgun...
16:35 Injection molded means it's one single piece.
(You inject the polymer into a mold to make the part not consist of multiple CNC machined parts.)
Sein sehnsüchtiger Blick als der im Video sagt "fast kein Rückstoß"😅
Grüße aus Deutschland!
we called the g36 a peashooter back in the days of me being in the german bundeswehr. i was still trained on the old G3 assault rifle. sure, firing it hits you like a truck with its 7.56mm ammunitions and without a recoil compensator, but it hits the enemy even harder. and it was very accurate and reliable. the G36 has too many smaller annoying and many other bigger issues. i would take the old G3 every day, when i had the choice.
If we only consider marksmanship, then yes, 7.62 is superior.
In the full picture of a firefight 5.56 is clearly the winner.
I Had no problem with the most versions of the G3.
But the the Airborne Version was something to hate.
The shoulder rest was the problem.
This must bei designed by an sadistic a*hole.
And sometimes between the fourth and twenty-fifth 20-round magazines, the gun got really hot.
But I think this is to expect and far away from normal use.
There is also a G28(A real marksman version), the MG4(light mashine gun - 5.56) and some different sniper rifles and shurely the HK-416 which is replacing the G-36 in furture
8:00 Yes, the military training area in the Lüneburger Heather is pretty big and rural, you can definitly get there, if you want.
There will be mostly signs that there is the training area and you are not supposed to go there, but you can still get into it, even if its not smart.
The people who go there are definitly no squatters since its pretty far off any big city in the Lüneburger Heather and there are mostly small villages around.
In this rural area we also have one of the biggest wolf population in Germany, which is only possible because its so rural.
The first one is used very rare in the Army. As you said, its to heavy an the magcapacity is to small. It is mostly for DMR Shooters.
The 2nd one is the MG5. A great machinegun. Not that fast like the MG3 but very fast to use.
G36 also had problems with accuracy in hot climates like dessert countries. They were only later discovered since the weapon was never intended for arid climates and was instead developed to perform well in central europe
several hot climate countries use it with great success. however, they know what it can and cannot do, and don't go into long firefights with only it.
Because of improvements in body armor, the 5.56 round is no longer adequate. The US Army has also recognized this and is currently replacing it's standard rifle with the 6.8mm M7. When they talk about penetration, it's all about body armor.
The silver bullets are simply tin-plated. This leaves less abrasion than tombac in the barrel and can be removed more easily. A development of NORMA/Sweden from the early 60s if i remember correctly. Depending on the manufacturer and cartridge type the tin layer can contain MoS2 as well. In case of MEN f.e. all AP rounds, from 9 x19 up to 7.62 x 51 contains MoS2.
I actually have been on the specific range. The site is on a former airfield. The 292 belongs the the BFC btw.
I think that based on the Ukrainian Army's operational experience in the Ukrainian War, some things need to be reconsidered. Some pieces of equipment and weapons will become less important, while others will become even more important.
I'm really excited to see what the impact of the findings will be.
Ukraine is just realy bad at war, they are using very static armor attacks and destroyed more of their AA tanks than the russians did.
The main lesson is that germany needs a gepard 2 AA tank for future combats because even the old ones are performing very well against drones.
@@nox5555 I wouldnt say that they are bad at war, they just wont ever get out of the "David against Goliath" when fighting russia. Like, yeah, they are getting ALOT of western equipment, but Russia currently sits behind a massive, densely mined defensive line. Ukraine also has a MASSIVE border with hostile nations, so they have to commit alot of their manpower to making sure russia doesnt try a Rush to Kyiv again.
It pretty much goes on like that for ukraine. They have a military which is pretty much on par with the russians, with select units that are better than ANYTHING the russians currently wield.
@@nox5555 I think that kind of Russian propaganda is shooting themselves in the foot. Couldn't imagine USA building defensive lines and putting down more mines than anyone before saying: "man this Mexico really sucks at war" as US invasion nears 2nd year with no signs of ending.
We have an army? 😂
I had a MG3 in my STAN. It was the predecessor of the MG5. No selectable fire rate, no optical sights. The fire rate was 1200/min. Reduced from the MG42, which again was the predecessor, from 1500/min which was considered too much, eating ammo and heating up the barrels too fast.
But a cool weapon after all. Even more precise than the rifle, if you knew how to handle it. When you trained long enough you could even fire single shots.
As far as I know from the MG5, the handle on top is to carry the thing and also to switch barrels. I think it opens by a quarter turn, and you can remove the barrel then, having the handle as a grip.
On the MG3, you had a "door" where the barrel was tilted out of the gun and you had to pull it back. So with the equipment came an asbestos "glove" to grab and remove the barrel.
You were soon reminded to use it when you forgot that 😩
I think infantery tactics are different between the US and Germany, especially when it comes to MGs. This can explain why you call the MG5 "sick".
Injection molding is a manufacturing method to make plastic components. I have worked in such factories.
2:08 Yeah, a real expert. The US Army adopted this rifle (HK417) and use it with the name M110. And our buddy here has never heared of it befor...
the strongest weapon of the German army is the iron will of there soldiers
not these days
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I suppose the rifle shown at the very beginning is available as the HK MR 380, chambered for the 5,56mm x 45 (.223 Rem.), or as the MR 308 (7,62mm x 51, .308 Win), for the civilian market. Both are pretty expensive (around 3.200 €), but are pretty reliable. They look like crossovers between HK designs and the AR 15 (AR - 15 style charging handle, dust lid, forward assist, gas operated). It is possible that this will become the new standard issue rifle for the GE armed forces, together with the MG5.
The MG five is the updated version of the exact same machine gun they had in World War II, which was called the buzz saw
Fun Fact about the G27: In the Field the Soldiers weren’t to accurate with it because they mostly shot it in in fullauto. Because of that the Bundeswehr bought the civilian version without fullauto and designated it the G28
Not the full fact. The G28 was also adopted because the modifications for the civilian market made it slightly more accurate than a HK417/G27 in semi auto mode.
The IAR in the marine corps and the G27 are both Hk417s i think
The IAR is a 556 rifle, so more of a heavier HK416
IAR is an HK416 (5.56mm) and the G27 is an HK417 (7.62X51mm)
@@CombatArmsChannel thought the IAR was a 417 but that makes sense were gonna get 416s here in about 2 years
@katzenkralle7262 Yeah the IAR was meant to replace the SAW but as an automatic rifle instead of an LMG. It wasn't a great substitute in the traditional sense of suppression, but the onus shifted more to slightly more precise, repeated suppression
The M27 is in 556 the G27 is in 762
You basically have a mix of weapons in every coy to choose, tailored to your mission. Your personal gun will be an assault rifle, while you can be designated to another role. For example, as a machine gunner, I’d choose a mp 7 as backup over a pistol. Tailored to mission.
Remember - switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading
The mp7 round as far as i understood tumbles after hitting de target.
Bundeswehr is very carefull with ammo useage. They almost never spray & prey. It roots back to cold war, where you have theretical massive amounts of enemys and scarce supplys, but also to second WW and before, when discipline is key.
G27 - maybe for a recon unit depending on terrain but if found in a skirmish I want more than 3-5/20 round magazines
The bullets were tombak cased to prevent breathing in lead dust when shooting. If you look in the vid the 7,62 is like this too.
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16:35 Injection molding is a manufacturing process for producing parts by injecting molten material into a mold. Injection molding can be performed with a host of materials mainly including metals (for which the process is called die-casting), glasses, elastomers, confections, and most commonly thermoplastic and thermosetting polymers. Material for the part is fed into a heated barrel, mixed (using a helical screw), and injected into a mould cavity, where it cools and hardens to the configuration of the cavity. 😉
The normal infantry riffle in Switzerland is 4.3 kg, incl. the full magazin with 20 rounds, but I never felt it's too heavy.
As I was in the Bundeswehr we also use G3 and MG3 nut the G27 is one a heavy modefied G3 more compoments to fit on and a much more modern look