BATTLE OF THE 4TH GEN MAIN VOCALS - vocal analysis
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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the funny thing about this is that NMIXX sullyoon could also make it to this ranking. the vocal line of that group is just insane.
sullyoon AND kyujin cause they're almost the same technically
I think Bae would’ve been a great pick for a lead gen 4 vocalist. I think her voice is so beautiful and she ate Cool (your rainbow)
@@darkmontero6131 sullyoon has better lows and belts higher whilst kyujin has better approach
@@Glossyxxbeeeeen not at all… Kyuji has the better lows as her lower register is actually pretty developed for someone of her age and skill set, while Sully’s are actually pretty underwhelming. And Sully a more balanced technique that Kyujin as she is cleaner, fuller, and engages her chest more. Edit: forgot to mention that Kyujin also gets very tight when singing and even sounds strangled at times. I think it’s mostly cuz she doesn’t really take singing seriously (which makes sense cuz her passion seems to lie mostly in dancing and performing) but that lack of interest does manifest itself in a squeezed throat and pulled larynx. Sullyoon is only outclassed by Kyujin in lows.
The funny thing is how delusional you are
the vocals of nmixx is literally insane imagine having hard and tiring choreos and singing live too like they are really powerful sullyoons vocals are no joke too
Now I really want to know how jyp trainers train them lol I want a lesson from them so I can improve my terribile singing ahah
@@aloe5107 they actually are sent to the US to train with Navy SEALs
@Aloe dunno but I heard somewhere that they run while practicing their singing
@@aloe5107 probably in a different method than itzy .
@@Kat-y_LI heard somewhere Itzy are forced to practice their dance for 6+ hours a day or smth like that
I agree with NingNing analysis, I don't know but when she performs on the stages, we can clearly see her stage presence and her confidence in her dancing and attitude, but when it comes to live vocal, she looks like she afraid that she will crack her voice, her notes are mostly heady. I hope that she will be more confident in live vocal, she is a promising vocalist with a lot of potentials, I really like her agility.
Considering how many ignorant kpop fans thinking vocal cracks mean poor technique and calling a vocalist bad for having a few cracking moments, it's understandable that she's so afraid to go all out.
Bro, she confessed that she was nearly blind with one eye... Imagine how hard it is for her dancing properly and singing on a stage when she barely sees anything with one eye... And she still has the best stage presence.
I think it’s important to also take Aespa’s lack of live stages into consideration. Surely, not singing live often will harm one’s confidence or comfortability in taking those risks when going all out.
The fact that other NMIXX vocalists could also be in this list is insane. ❤
also aespa's
@@rainbowparadise3124 Nmixx and Aespa are such a talented group
If this video was actually about the best, this list would not exist. Some Nmixx members are better than some on this list
@@asareirene even sullyoon is above liz although she is below yunjin
@@sekkai_sullyon is not that a consistent c-, nor liz so idk sullyon is slightly better,
haewon has a fullness/robust quality that is pretty rare in 4th gen, reminds me of older vocalists in kpop, its so nice
this omg! I noticed that for other vocalists, the higher they go, the thinner their voice becomes but for Haewon it still sounds so full and powerful
@@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 yes, overall that thinner, small sound is dominant in 4th gen whereas haewon and lots of others in the past sound “hearty”. sangyeon from tbz is a male i can think of that has a pretty uncommon fuller sound in 4th gen as well
@Chaeerie they both have kind of a soul/rnb sound
its probably because she slightly lowers her larynx when belting to truly get a more robust sound
@@aeivyyy eh, she sounds “full” throughout her voice, it’s definitely her natural timbre
In ten years time, lily and Haewon are going to be absolute vocal monsters
They already are
@@ereh11 definitely, but sopranos reach their peak in their 30s so by that time haewon and lily will be absolute beasts
@@azurean7183 with proper training too. Unfortunately JYP isn't known for that. Hopefully, they take care of their most talented GG
Only if JYP gives them proper vocal training which I doubt they will.
I really hope ningning becomes more confident singing live because this girls vocals are to die for. I think I kind of understand why winter gets most of the high notes now, I think when it comes to live stages winter is just more confident and goes for the high note whereas ningning tends to take the safer route and does it in head voice. I hope in the future ningning will show us a stage where not only is she confident in performing but singing too.
No it’s because of sm
Winter is definitely more willing to take risks, but she also doesn’t sound good when she does the higher belts. I would rather have Ning’s cautious approach that sounds better.
@@acebase555 Ning is always capable, SM is just pushing Winter when she can barely hit those notes😂
Not exactly.Most of the highest notes in Aespa's discography are actually Ningning's adlib and runs in the background.Winter's highnote is actually not that high,but tends to sound higher because of her approach to the notes,which sounds satisfying when she manage to hit it,but it's not that stable in live.
Now Lily A5 again in Young, Dumb, Stupid
The only 4th gen that can slay this
and supported 3 Eb5s in love me like this
Yeah, and the fact that the A5 have good placement is incredible
I love her
And shes still vgly😭 as expected from jyp’s daughter
We all know Sieun is a flawed vocalist but I feel her vocal range in general makes her Stand out she has incredible accessibility in all of registers and surprisingly her lower register too
For sure, very much potential
Yup, she just needs training.
@@fangirlmode8705 just like most of the vocalist in 4th Gen. So what is your point
@@yerimissemm I mean, she has a potential, she just needs to have a vocal coach. There's nothing to what I said.
@@fangirlmode8705 she’s a stylistic singer who doesn’t rely on technique just like the rest of the group.
Sieun is a really interesting case. She has SOOOO much potential. If only she trained in a more vocal-centric company or company with history of good vocal training like SM, she's gonna be unstoppable.
Btw sieun used to be under jyp and underwent 2yrs of training. She was part of itzy potential lineup as well.
@@k-potato3593 I know. I became a fan after watching her in Still 17. But she was in JYP for acting in majority so her vocals haven't really been trained there well.
And you know that JYP isn't really that great with vocals esp. their half-air thingy. Only with NMIXX did they have vocalists at par with some SM vocalists (Lily, Haewon)
@@marquersurlalune Excuse me, but JYP also had Wonder girls, &15 and they have Day6. In my opinion, they are also on pair with SM vocalists (not better, but they aren't far below, you know?)
@@Blanka767 I'm talking about the company as a whole. You see a clear line between SM and JYP?
SM have been producing average, above average, proficient, good main vocalists ever since 1st generation. Let alone their lead vocalists.
BOA, TVXQ, SUJU, THE GRACE, SNSD up to present, they don't MISS AT ALL.
JYP on the other hand had only a couple of main vocalists that could be at par with SM Vocalists (NMIXX, DAY6, &15, WG) and that's about it.
There's a clear disparity. They are far behind. Not even close.
If you still don't understand, I don't know anymore.
@@Blanka767 SM's lead vocalists are usually on par if not better than most of JYP's main vocalists. Meanwhile, SM's main vocalists are usually considered on a different level. (At least according vocal analysis experts)
JYP has some pretty good vocalists alright, but their best one isn't even worth comparing to SM's best, because it's obvious who would win.
10:22 is one of my fav moments of haewon's vocal omg i just loooove her vibrato here so much it literally gave me chills when i first heard it😻😻😻
If Lia master the foundation she can be the queen of vocal bc her tone is so beautiful and unique, that’s something you can’t train to achieve. I hope she improves in the future.
@@uzuzlas4676 stop blaming the company look at nmixx, its simply that lia is at her limit. Its possible that this is as far as she can go.
She cant even sing taylor swift song perfectly ijBOLLL KEEP ON DREAMING MIDZYS!
Y'all r delusional, she can improve but not be the queen of vocals
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤DOZEN LIA, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE MOST WEAKEST MAIN VOCALIST IN JYPEE AND KPOP INDUSTRY IN GENERAL???🎤🎤
@@hanatake2353 that's was unnecessary
Finally someone else who believes HAEWON and LILY complete each other...oo i love nmixx
NMIXX LILY ON ANOTHER LEVEL✋🏻
I saw her all performance (since 12 years old) she is incredible
There’s something that i love about ningning is that it sounds easy for her, she doesn’t need to like scream or get everything force out of her chest, it sounds easy in the ears everytime
Ningning really just needs to work on exposure; SM's fault entirely. When she gets to perform live and she's in her element, she's absolutely on fire. SM forcing to lipsync their first three years was definitely a detriment.
edit: It frustartes me sometimes that she often chooses to be safe than risking notes, but I guess we also can appreciate her for taking care of her voice. Anyway her headvoice is immaculate and she definitely relies on it and mixes more heady whenever she's in doubt (which ig is okay considering how piercing Winter is).
When sieun hit a whistle note I was in utter shock
I'm too lazy to find it, where is it?
@@dylaaaiiiiin 3:33
Lily and Haewon are the best 1,2 punch in the 4th gen and then you add Sullyoon.... it is insane.
Plus every other member can support. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
even though liz is low and behind now, she has such a unique vocal colour that is rich, but smooth and sweet that stands out from the rest of her group. starship needs to capitalize on that. she needs real deal training and a giant confidence boost because she has astronomical potential to rise the ranks. go liz
Im voting jo yuri as well. She has a very rich and unique vocal color and can definitely go up there. She has been slaying since 2018
YESS
If youre lazy to watch the video heres the final ranking:
1 - Lily and Haewon
2 - NingNig
3 - Yunjin
4 - Liz
5 - Lia
6 - Sieun
hope that helps
@_TA11 she is not, Haewon and Lily still better than her
Out of all in the list, I love Yunjin and Liz the most! They have long ways to go to perfect their skills but I know they'll get there with proper training and hardwork.
I feel bad with Yunjin's recession tho. I believe she is also aware of this as she mentioned this in our of LSRFM's vlog. But I like that she keeps her songs in her comfortable range. When I listen to her songs, I feel very relaxed.
As for Liz, she's got a lot of raw talent. And based on her performance in their concert, you can see that she's working hard improving her vocals.
Amazing singers, I admire these two soo much!
I love Lia’s voice! Her emotion when she sings she makes me want to cry. She just get shy but she sounds so beautiful.
my favorite vocalist is Yunjin. every time she sings i feel her love for music.
Lilly vocal range is actually Eb3-Bb5-Bb5
The Eb3 was in the staff's wedding "To you my light". The Bb5 (hv) was in her vlive practicing on "Ego" - Beyonce.
Can you link the Bb5 on ego? Im doing a vocal showcase
@@Glossyxxbeeeeen she did a Bb5 of sullyoons high note in dice at Mama
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc i said ego not dice...
haewon has the best vocal tone in 4 gen argue with me
Arguing about vocal tone is subjective and is like comparing with apples to oranges. Which doesn't make any sense. So, if people were to argue with you, it would be like arguing with a wall since we all have our subjective taste. I also like Haewon's tone too.
@@justdb4 its just a joke bro
@@yerismind bye 💀
Doesn't deserve even an argue💀😂
Dependiendo el gusto de la gente, ella tiene una voz madura y sonora, pero su técnica no es la mejor de la cuarta generación. Aún así ella canta hermoso, seguro será una de las mejores en el futuro, sin embargo ser o no ser la mejor no minimiza su talento.
I think Lilly has best vocal technique and powerful in pop song, but i like Sulyoon's voice tone/color/timbre, it rich but soft. The best musicality is Yunjin, and I considered only Yunjin now that I can called her as true artist.
Nmixx is everything
Baby monster is coming guyssss haram pharita rora Chiquita already breaked recordss
It's really annoying how y'all say "Baemon is coming" whenever there's a vid Abt kpop vocalists yet their best vocalist is Mid W-A
Idk much about vocal technique but I loved and kept repeating Ningning’s belt during Savage’s 1st prechorus on their 1st encore. Like yes girl! Belt that with confidence!
I wish she sang more like that. I notice the fear in her eyes whenever she has to belt or even just sing live in general (which is interesting since Winter’s the opposite, girl doesn’t give af lol). I personally think her nicest moments are when she’s in a casual setting. So much potential when she gets over that hurdle.
Yunjin is a weird case, cuz she seems to be the same as her predebut stage until you get to the higher end of her mixed voice and that at least to me is where i hear the difference, but nonetheless she still is a great vocalist with loads of potential
Hybe vocal coach is meh 😕
i think its also bc she stopped singing, she was going to go to university and move on from an idol life before hybe rang her. the others have been training cinsistently for years.
She is in HYBE... that's the problem. They have the worst vocal coaches.
Sullyoon is also a good vocalist,visual that actially can sing live
lily and haewon is good but i love ningning's vocal more, her voice is everything
Ningning's supported range: F#3 - C#5
I might give her F#3 but her C#’s are inconsistent for me, so I wouldn’t fully give her that
F#3 - C5
The funny thing is my 4th gen fav idol is all started with letter L. Lia, Lily, Liz..gosh, I hope someday they can make a collab
I find Weeekly's Monday very impressive.
Lily is so far ahead of any other 4th Gen idol, she's basically on the short list for the GOAT K-pop vocalist.
Weeekly Monday deserve to be recognized as one of the top 4th gen vocalist. Her high note in 'Solar' on Weverse 💕 even her low note from 'when we were young' by Adele cover on radio. I mean there's a lot Monday sing live on Weverse that uploaded on UA-cam. Maybe it's time to analysis Weeekly Monday vocal.
Sieun have si much potential omg :0
My favorite is Liz, I LOVE HER VOCAL TONE!!!
Lily has A5 note in headvoice on her cover song "All I want for Christmas" tho
Liz voice is so beatiful
The way Sullyoon could also make it on this list 😭 Nmixx fighting!
I thought Lily's lows consistently were only down to A3 wow she's even better than I thought 🤩
I think that Billlie has some AMAZING main vocalists. It'd be really cool to see what you thought.
Honourable mention to one of the best vocalist in 4th gen , the one and only, Monday from Weeekly💝
The thing is although I love nmixx vocal ability and I like Haewons and sullyoons voices I can't stand Lily's voice sometimes. In highlight medley she sounds nice but sometimes in actually Nmixx songs I feel like her voice doesn't suit Idk why.
With NingNing I actually like her voice because I think it's really sweet but yes NingNing just needs more confidence
Yup we all have vocal tone preferences
lily's voice is rlly good
Voices like lilly are rare in the kpop industry, so it's expected some won't resonate with it for a while
@@GabrielAlves-ig6whidk her voice reminds me of winters as well but again I actually like winters voice on aespa songs idk why
liz has much pontential to make her mix balanced
it would be nice an agility ranking.
I feel like, in k-pop, riffs and runs are overlooked, but I'm a sucker for agilty, one of the reasons I love SulHaeLy so much.
I am a sucker for vocalists like D.O because his runs are great. Baek Yerin too.
I think LILY's supported range is G#3~Eb5~G5
i like yunjin and lily, i think they r great they have a powerful voice and that is so charming and so interested
For me it's Lily by far. She's "the different". Best vocalist, not only capable of reach high notes, but with an amazing and unique timber, texture, style.
14:12 😱😱
I saw Lia as not so good, but wow, she made me eat my words
One of my favorite moments of her
Late but I seriously hope Lia gets the right sources for vocal training after Itzy disbands, she has so much potential, but her biggest issue is her confidence and her mixed, her A4 sounds effortless at times and she can even sing Bb4 back then, she needs to be taught how to belt properly
How can someone be talented..haewon is literally top tier vocalist while being most skilled dancer in idol dance. Not even yg or sm can have idol like her . LMAO
Luna from f(x)
Luna, Taemin, Seohyun, Xiah Junsu..
LMAOO ever heard of luna from f(x)?? taemin from shinee?? seulgi from red velvet?? ( yes my girl seulgi can eat half of the 4th gen mains up. also around your fav jihyo vocally )
girl have u heard of Luna :))
@@rubyjaneluvbot Haewon easily outsings Seulgi tho.
Lia Vocal tone so unique & beautiful ❤️
Bro the rapper line in NMIXX they can sing very well too. like dude they're rapper with almost swag voice but they can SLAY when they sing💅🏻🥵i can agree that NMIXX be one of the best 4th gen pure talented group
If Sieun had sm vocal trainers she would be unstoppable
I swear Ningning always looks/sounds like she will be sent straight back to China by SM if she makes just one mistake on stage. She has so much fear in her big eyes😂
It's because people are always racist towards her just because she is Chinese.
Okey but the intro tho>>>>>
hihi update😄
I think Lia has the potential to be a powerhouse vocalist the problem is that, In true JYP fashion, she’s forced to sing with an unnatural tone. I think they wanted her to be the next Nayeon and make Yeji the next Jihyo but Lia, as you said, does better in a lower register. JYP has all these talented women in his company but if you’re not in Twice you’re given scraps. He has Twice until 2029 now so hopefully he’ll stop trying to recreate their magic and let Itzy and NMIXX create their own magic. Anyways, I’m not gonna sit here and rank talented women like they’re objects created solely for our entertainment during women’s history month or ever, so I put all of them at number one because they all have strengths and weaknesses and that’s just called being human and the real talent is putting yourself out into the public eye and taking criticism like water off a ducks back. All these Queens are amazing and deserve the world. Werk ladies!!
The problem is she doesnt have the same level of technique. I like ITZY btw.
@@saltyx4136 yeah I don’t understand why the company would train her vocal in an unnatural way like it’s obvious from debut. Dalla Dalla wasn’t within her comfort range so she wasn’t able to truly show off her vocals. I just hope that she doesn’t ruin her voice trying to fit the mold JYPE is putting her in.
It's JYPE* not JYP. The guy is not CEO.
@@oohmyjooy he created the company
@@SlayerJoe And he's not the one making the decisions anymore. He's not the one that "has twice till 2029" JYPE does. And it's about time kpop stans understand the difference.
I would give NingNing C#5 cus she consistent with her C#5 in the Hyper Line Concert
I’m not sure about that concert since not everything was live. But she has some C#’s she just doesn’t have them the same way Haewon has them consistently. It’s mostly phrasing
@@izonexbae yeah idols used prerecord vocals
Sieun is awesome.
She’s very pretty
I have a suggestion next time u can make the relaxed vocals in green, and the strained ones in red!
I think green is for supported notes, yellow is for relaxed notes, and red is for strained notes
I hope to see Monday of Weeekly in your next 4th Generation Vocal Analysys, pls.
I know Weeekly are quite underrated, but I think Monday is quite good to be analyzed in your channel.
Yeah i know Monday and love weeekly, will be featured very soon
i'm suprised to not see goeun and swan of purple kiss on here or haram of billie
So underrated is sullyoon, winter, swan, and isa. 4th gen I so talented.
Lily and Haewon remind me of Solar and Whee In ❤️
i wouldn’t give G3 to Lily. she has very few good G3s. she’s rather only consistent with G#3 / A3. if you gave G3 to Lily you should also give it to Haewon cuz even Haewon has more G3s than Lily.
i agree with pretty much everything else you said, i feel like a big problem for haewon is her nasality tho, especially when she doesn’t necessarily belt big long sustained notes. her placement is usually good for those like that sustained C5 you showed but a lot of the times she opts for this very nasal unpleasant sound which i wish she would fix SO SO BAD
Hm I rarely hear Haewon go down to G3 all too much. Even then, her and Lily lows aren't too far apart. I don't hear Haewon utilizing her stronger chest voice in her lows much.
Yeah. It’s a weird habit she has
i mean G#3/A3 is kinda a stretch already czz she is usually muffled and quiet below A3/Bb3
@@liftedb9591 nah now she should be given G#3/A3
Great video, i know it's just the most popular ones but maybe it will be more interesting if you want to make the most underrated ones like weeekly monday, purple kiss swan, cherry bullet bora etc and rank them too and compare the most popular and underrated so that will be awsome but i just tell anyway
Great idea, would make a very long video tho
New intro, new analysis and a new start!
Corrections about the vocal ranges:
Lily: Eb3-Bb5-Bb5
Yunjin: F3-F#5-C6(mightve gone higher)
Monday from Weeekly wipes them all
Not Haely
Raini Rodriguez
Nmixx is the best 4th gen girl group vocally. I sometimes even forget that they are from JYP.
Haewon and lily>>>
Mama is back
@@izonexbae exactly
my ranking :
1. Haewon ( i love her voice, her texture is everything. she is abs a vocal monster)
2. Lily ( obv amazing no doubt, i just personally prefer haewon's vocal tone over hers)
3. Ningning ( i mean,, she could easily be a vocal monster with a little improvement and much confidence, MY FAV FAV VOCAL TONE BTW)
4. Liz ( i need starship to give her a solo album asap, she'll EAT IT UP LIKE DAMN, i think she lacks in lower register but overall, she's so talented, again one of my fav)
5. Yunjin ( she can improve, her voice tends to strain a lot, and i believe her falsettos and head voice is more developed than chest voice. overall, beautiful tone)
6. Sieun ( she's endearing to listen to. her voice fits different genres easily)
7. Lia ( she can def improve a lot. huge potential i see in her. she's better than a lot of vocalist but i had to put her last in this particular list. her voice tends to strain, but her bright tone is really good)
I am 100% agree with your ranking
i have a question about haewon, u mentioned that she's very close to achieving resonance, can u show me which moment where she almost did that? thanks in advance^^
10:17, 10:35, 10:51
@@izonexbae thankyouu!!
El rango belt de Lily mas alto que su head voice?😮
Actualmente, ya llega a un C6, aunque es en estudio😊
Let me say this I think this video is a bit biased with the commentary. First it's lets stablished that Haewon, Ningning, and lilly will definitely occupy the top 3. Ok why I say it's a little biased? If you read her analysis there are a lot of flawss for ningning, when infact she's almost perfect as a singer. Among all of this girl she has the widest range while lily has the highest. Her transition from tones are actually really smooth as well, the only problem is the lack of sources of performances for ningning showcasing her vocal. She also mentioned that ningning has lack of confidence while performing, and I totally agree but it's important to understand that being stable while performing is not equal to a better technique the best example is ningning and winter. Lets do side by side comparison.
Overall Range:
1.ningning
2.lily
3. Haewon
Highest range:
1. Lily
2. Haewon( because her highnotes are more powerful.
3. Ningning
Lower range:
1.ningning
2. Haewon
3.lily
Resonance
Haewon
Lily & ningning.
Vocal gymnastics:
Ningning/lily
Haewon.
Tone: (can be based on personal taste)
Ninning
Haewon
lily
Story telling ( if you ask vocal coaches they will all agree that inorder to be a good vocalist you should know how to convey the meaning of the song and not just spitting notes).
Ningning
Hawon and lily.
Averall skills
Ningning/lily
Haewon
Now to the ranking I agree with other ranks but I'll definitely replaced haewon with ningning.
And if I'm to put winter she will be on the fourth just behind a little bit of haewon.
Karina and sulyeon will also fit on the rank 5&6 they almost have the same level of skills.
some very generous choices for nmixx members and some omissions or extreme pickiness for Ningning as usual lmao
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This didn’t age well.
It is not just how high the note is, but how precisely on tune it is. All other things being equal, whoever has the most power wins.
Some girls have just devastatingly beautiful voices-- that counts for a lot for me.
IMHO, in order:
Precisely on tune, range, power, the beauty of voice.
Lily doesn't have G3s, she sometimes gets too light even on A3s. She's also quite consistent with Eb5s, I don't see why she wouldn't get D5/Eb5.
I agree
Her bb4's and bb5's are shouty
@@이런-아 Bb4 no but Bb5 is a really high note obviously its "Shouty"
@@imfoive991 they're shouty she needs to work on them
@@이런-아 Bb4 isnt
Lily is the vocal queen of the 4th gen
liz reminded me of soyeon of t-ara.
just realized how much Haewon sounds like Hani in her mid range
sullyoon could make it too, nmixx vocal line is the best. period
would you consider doing this for lead vocals as well?
Sorry if my english not fluent but i think for lead vocalist is winter or sullyoon maybe (in number 1)
(imo)
Yeah but not too soon since this video took a lot of work
@@Rexille_Creative winter
@@Rexille_Creative def winter.
Sulyoon still has some work to achieve winter's level.
But she would be on top too.
Love your VDO. Very Informative. It must take you a lot of work. I truly appreciate !!!. Please keep up the good work, i followed you.
Thanks❤️
Liz has so much potential, I hate her company can't see it and give her the fewer lines.
She only had less lines in kitsch whereas in other songs she gets one of the most of not the most lines. Pls look at the line distribution before assuming
she literally has the second most lines in the whole discography(second only to yujin). it was only in kitsch where she got only one verse💀 you're clearly a token stan.
i think weeekly monday would be near yunjins spot, even if she regressed
She is actually better than yunjin she and ningning are on the same level
@@julusmalcolm that’s what i figured yeah, like above her type of near
Yeah most likely, i’d say maybe a bit above Ningning but that’s debatable
@@izonexbae i agree
i know you write a note on the first screen, but i guess you better add a note on the title that this is the rank among only popular group of 4th gen; cause i expect more of 4th gen gg main vocalists would get mentioned cause if we talk more about 4th gen in general (that not only the popular one) it contain many great main vocalists tho
There are definitely a few decent ones but i’d personally say great would be an overstatement
But i’ll make it more clear next time
@@izonexbae I get it. Okayy thank you ✨
Id argue ningning's one isnt unconfidence, more like nerves and weak stamina.
Also, not some of the ppl here going thru their shady antics on NN again, Why do I feel like some ppl on the vocal community have some beef on her. I think ppl should stop making analysing contents for her if ppl will just diss her up, yall think this is constructive criticsm? Bcs I dont think so. Yall really thought yall did something, leave her alone pls if yall dislike her.
SOMETIMES some ppl just need to 🤐🤐🤐.
Yes the nerves come from not being confident imo, it’s even on their own concerts sometimes and encore stages.
And I don’t think I personally said something bad, no? I thought I was just analyzing all of them from a more objective standpoint
@@izonexbae Im not pertaining it to u, some ppl here on the comment section are being so edgy towards her, and commenting misinformation towards her vocal, and some just straight up hate her but ofc they wont make it obvious, however their shady comments said so...
To me, nerves and unconfidence are 2 different things, lol I see alot of singers with so much unconfidence to the point they cannot sing live anymore, they tend to not sing at all or they cannot move anymore bcs of stage fright, ningning's case is just nerves, she can still sing her parts well and as stable as winter's(still believe winter has better stamina tho)..It reminds me of that tiktoker singer who joined the voice, she is very confident on her tiktok contents, but she messed up her whistle note on the actual stage performance, is she unconfident? Not necessarily, bcs on some of the verses she did well, same as to ningning, on their live performances she did great, but she is just the type who tend to get nervous alot, maybe she just need to loosen up a bit...
@@izonexbae So I dont understand where is this unconfidence train came from, bcs as u mentioned on their own concert, she just did great lol...believe me, if shes unconfident, she will do bad than her usual as always
@@waterdrop000 oh i mean that even in the concerts she doesn’t sound as confident as let’s say Winter
@@izonexbae on what level should she be confident on? I dont see signs of unconfidentness on the concerts, shes just doing what is expected, on their live singing she seem to be stable and having just fun enjoying the stage...pls enlighten me some moments wherein she seem to slack off. Bcs I watched the whole thing and I dont see it.
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great video!
Thanks for the correction haha, small slip up
All of the NMIXX members have vocal support, so they are JYP's adopted group from SM
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@@laburi999 since they're vocals are mostly stable, they are mostly qualified at SM entertainment
I haven`t really noticed yujin vocal change, but know that you mentioned I can clearly tell that she doesn`t project into her mask more and the sound produced is indeed coming more from the throat
The gripe I have with this is it only shows the note being used but it doesn't show how well the note is executed. There were a lot of shouted, unsupported and shaky notes when Lia sang live.
Plus there are so many examples where heavy autotune is evident.
i guess it's just age that is holding these girls back, they are just starting really and with age comes very suttle changes in the larynx altering the dynamics of ones vocals, and that also depends on how they protect or not their voice, and then their is the constant demands made on them to use lipsyncs and other voice aids for a perfect sound, and lets be honest many do, newjeans hanni is one of the few that refuses point blank to use any aids at all,
I absolutely LOVE sieunnnnnn 😭😭
I feel it's a pity for nmixx. They have great vocal..but the music.. it's quite lackluster.. especially the young dumb stupid.. it's literally a kid song. I hope they continue to made song like love me like this. That's the only good produced song so far..
what do you think bout the new one like dash sonar and run for roses?