BATTLE OF THE 4TH GEN MAIN VOCALS - vocal analysis
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haewon has a fullness/robust quality that is pretty rare in 4th gen, reminds me of older vocalists in kpop, its so nice
this omg! I noticed that for other vocalists, the higher they go, the thinner their voice becomes but for Haewon it still sounds so full and powerful
@@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 yes, overall that thinner, small sound is dominant in 4th gen whereas haewon and lots of others in the past sound “hearty”. sangyeon from tbz is a male i can think of that has a pretty uncommon fuller sound in 4th gen as well
@Chaeerie they both have kind of a soul/rnb sound
its probably because she slightly lowers her larynx when belting to truly get a more robust sound
@@aeivyyy eh, she sounds “full” throughout her voice, it’s definitely her natural timbre
the funny thing about this is that NMIXX sullyoon could also make it to this ranking. the vocal line of that group is just insane.
sullyoon AND kyujin cause they're almost the same technically
I think Bae would’ve been a great pick for a lead gen 4 vocalist. I think her voice is so beautiful and she ate Cool (your rainbow)
@@darkmontero6131 sullyoon has better lows and belts higher whilst kyujin has better approach
@@Glossyxxbeeeeen not at all… Kyuji has the better lows as her lower register is actually pretty developed for someone of her age and skill set, while Sully’s are actually pretty underwhelming. And Sully a more balanced technique that Kyujin as she is cleaner, fuller, and engages her chest more. Edit: forgot to mention that Kyujin also gets very tight when singing and even sounds strangled at times. I think it’s mostly cuz she doesn’t really take singing seriously (which makes sense cuz her passion seems to lie mostly in dancing and performing) but that lack of interest does manifest itself in a squeezed throat and pulled larynx. Sullyoon is only outclassed by Kyujin in lows.
The funny thing is how delusional you are
I agree. Ningning's villain is her lack of confidence. She can definitely opt for a bolder and more balanced belt but she chooses not to.
this!! this is also a reason why winter gets most of the belts. ningning lacks confidence during lives meanwhile winter belts the notes as if there's no tomorrow.
Recently Ningning said in an interview that she's nearly blind in her right eye (she's had a severe eye infection disease since childhood). I wonder if that has something to do with her confidence. Technically you don't need your eyes to sing. But Ningning is basically a "disabled" young woman, so maybe she just has some confidence issues in general - which in turn affect her approach to singing as well.
@@queenning28 I also saw that.
I think ningning dont get a chance to show her ability.. we can see her great voice n belt in beautiful chrismast and time after time
@@queenning28 I don't how that connects
the vocals of nmixx is literally insane imagine having hard and tiring choreos and singing live too like they are really powerful sullyoons vocals are no joke too
Now I really want to know how jyp trainers train them lol I want a lesson from them so I can improve my terribile singing ahah
@@aloe5107 they actually are sent to the US to train with Navy SEALs
@Aloe dunno but I heard somewhere that they run while practicing their singing
@@aloe5107 probably in a different method than itzy .
@@Caspian_XxI heard somewhere Itzy are forced to practice their dance for 6+ hours a day or smth like that
I agree with NingNing analysis, I don't know but when she performs on the stages, we can clearly see her stage presence and her confidence in her dancing and attitude, but when it comes to live vocal, she looks like she afraid that she will crack her voice, her notes are mostly heady. I hope that she will be more confident in live vocal, she is a promising vocalist with a lot of potentials, I really like her agility.
Considering how many ignorant kpop fans thinking vocal cracks mean poor technique and calling a vocalist bad for having a few cracking moments, it's understandable that she's so afraid to go all out.
Bro, she confessed that she was nearly blind with one eye... Imagine how hard it is for her dancing properly and singing on a stage when she barely sees anything with one eye... And she still has the best stage presence.
I think it’s important to also take Aespa’s lack of live stages into consideration. Surely, not singing live often will harm one’s confidence or comfortability in taking those risks when going all out.
The fact that other NMIXX vocalists could also be in this list is insane. ❤
also aespa's
@@rainbowparadise3124 Nmixx and Aespa are such a talented group
If this video was actually about the best, this list would not exist. Some Nmixx members are better than some on this list
@@asareirene even sullyoon is above liz although she is below yunjin
@@sekkai_sullyon is not that a consistent c-, nor liz so idk sullyon is slightly better,
In ten years time, lily and Haewon are going to be absolute vocal monsters
They already are
@@ereh11 definitely, but sopranos reach their peak in their 30s so by that time haewon and lily will be absolute beasts
@@azurean7183 with proper training too. Unfortunately JYP isn't known for that. Hopefully, they take care of their most talented GG
Only if JYP gives them proper vocal training which I doubt they will.
Sieun is a really interesting case. She has SOOOO much potential. If only she trained in a more vocal-centric company or company with history of good vocal training like SM, she's gonna be unstoppable.
Btw sieun used to be under jyp and underwent 2yrs of training. She was part of itzy potential lineup as well.
@@k-potato3593 I know. I became a fan after watching her in Still 17. But she was in JYP for acting in majority so her vocals haven't really been trained there well.
And you know that JYP isn't really that great with vocals esp. their half-air thingy. Only with NMIXX did they have vocalists at par with some SM vocalists (Lily, Haewon)
@@marquersurlalune Excuse me, but JYP also had Wonder girls, &15 and they have Day6. In my opinion, they are also on pair with SM vocalists (not better, but they aren't far below, you know?)
@@Blanka767 I'm talking about the company as a whole. You see a clear line between SM and JYP?
SM have been producing average, above average, proficient, good main vocalists ever since 1st generation. Let alone their lead vocalists.
BOA, TVXQ, SUJU, THE GRACE, SNSD up to present, they don't MISS AT ALL.
JYP on the other hand had only a couple of main vocalists that could be at par with SM Vocalists (NMIXX, DAY6, &15, WG) and that's about it.
There's a clear disparity. They are far behind. Not even close.
If you still don't understand, I don't know anymore.
@@Blanka767 SM's lead vocalists are usually on par if not better than most of JYP's main vocalists. Meanwhile, SM's main vocalists are usually considered on a different level. (At least according vocal analysis experts)
JYP has some pretty good vocalists alright, but their best one isn't even worth comparing to SM's best, because it's obvious who would win.
I really hope ningning becomes more confident singing live because this girls vocals are to die for. I think I kind of understand why winter gets most of the high notes now, I think when it comes to live stages winter is just more confident and goes for the high note whereas ningning tends to take the safer route and does it in head voice. I hope in the future ningning will show us a stage where not only is she confident in performing but singing too.
No it’s because of sm
Winter is definitely more willing to take risks, but she also doesn’t sound good when she does the higher belts. I would rather have Ning’s cautious approach that sounds better.
@@acebase555 Ning is always capable, SM is just pushing Winter when she can barely hit those notes😂
Not exactly.Most of the highest notes in Aespa's discography are actually Ningning's adlib and runs in the background.Winter's highnote is actually not that high,but tends to sound higher because of her approach to the notes,which sounds satisfying when she manage to hit it,but it's not that stable in live.
Now Lily A5 again in Young, Dumb, Stupid
The only 4th gen that can slay this
and supported 3 Eb5s in love me like this
Yeah, and the fact that the A5 have good placement is incredible
I love her
And shes still vgly😭 as expected from jyp’s daughter
lia has my favourite tone in the entire 4th gen and is also my favourite idol along with lily. i really wish so much that a vocal coach could help her. her breath control and vocal support really needs help because why are you as a soprano straining bad even on a B4 (red cover). her tone is gorgeous, lower register has such a great quality, she has the potential but she just haven't truly unlocked it. she has nice falsettos and great transitions between registers too.
IKR her voice is so good but I think they got yeji to develop her vocal more than Lia😭
@@Siocean_ frr
Lia is my bias too, and I agree, everyone who analyses her says she has huge potential to get better, and seeing Nmixx Bae’s improvement really makes me think that Itzy’s vocal teachers aren’t doing all they can to really help her and the rest of the girls improve.
@@FareedKhan-xs9nj I agree
She cant even sing taylor swift song lmaooo midzys are so delusional
We all know Sieun is a flawed vocalist but I feel her vocal range in general makes her Stand out she has incredible accessibility in all of registers and surprisingly her lower register too
For sure, very much potential
Yup, she just needs training.
@@fangirlmode8705 just like most of the vocalist in 4th Gen. So what is your point
@@KpopLikeThatt I mean, she has a potential, she just needs to have a vocal coach. There's nothing to what I said.
@@fangirlmode8705 she’s a stylistic singer who doesn’t rely on technique just like the rest of the group.
If Lia master the foundation she can be the queen of vocal bc her tone is so beautiful and unique, that’s something you can’t train to achieve. I hope she improves in the future.
@@uzuzlas4676 stop blaming the company look at nmixx, its simply that lia is at her limit. Its possible that this is as far as she can go.
She cant even sing taylor swift song perfectly ijBOLLL KEEP ON DREAMING MIDZYS!
Y'all r delusional, she can improve but not be the queen of vocals
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤DOZEN LIA, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE MOST WEAKEST MAIN VOCALIST IN JYPEE AND KPOP INDUSTRY IN GENERAL???🎤🎤
@@hanatake2353 that's was unnecessary
There’s something that i love about ningning is that it sounds easy for her, she doesn’t need to like scream or get everything force out of her chest, it sounds easy in the ears everytime
Out of all in the list, I love Yunjin and Liz the most! They have long ways to go to perfect their skills but I know they'll get there with proper training and hardwork.
I feel bad with Yunjin's recession tho. I believe she is also aware of this as she mentioned this in our of LSRFM's vlog. But I like that she keeps her songs in her comfortable range. When I listen to her songs, I feel very relaxed.
As for Liz, she's got a lot of raw talent. And based on her performance in their concert, you can see that she's working hard improving her vocals.
Amazing singers, I admire these two soo much!
10:22 is one of my fav moments of haewon's vocal omg i just loooove her vibrato here so much it literally gave me chills when i first heard it😻😻😻
Ningning really just needs to work on exposure; SM's fault entirely. When she gets to perform live and she's in her element, she's absolutely on fire. SM forcing to lipsync their first three years was definitely a detriment.
edit: It frustartes me sometimes that she often chooses to be safe than risking notes, but I guess we also can appreciate her for taking care of her voice. Anyway her headvoice is immaculate and she definitely relies on it and mixes more heady whenever she's in doubt (which ig is okay considering how piercing Winter is).
Great video ! btw i believe Lily sang some A5s in Head Voice in her cover of All i want for christmas.
NingNing also has a new Bb5 in mix in "Salty and Sweet"
I think so too but i was a bit off with the vocal ranges probably
@@izonexbae yeah and 2ning has connected her hv till F6, and Lia has mixed up till F#5😅 but i think that the supported ranges are accurate
@@asdrubalalejandrosolorzano1847 yeah i tried to keep it more in singing range for Ning’s hv.
I havent heard Lia’s haha
I believe NN's Bb5 in Salty and Sweet was in head voice.
NMIXX LILY ON ANOTHER LEVEL✋🏻
I saw her all performance (since 12 years old) she is incredible
Finally someone else who believes HAEWON and LILY complete each other...oo i love nmixx
If youre lazy to watch the video heres the final ranking:
1 - Lily and Haewon
2 - NingNig
3 - Yunjin
4 - Liz
5 - Lia
6 - Sieun
hope that helps
@_TA11 she is not, Haewon and Lily still better than her
Haewon simply a main vocalist material in some of 4th gen ggs.
In all actually and she's a main vocalist in nmixx alongside lily.
shes also a main vocalist in nmixx aswell
Not some 4th gen ggs, she could be a main vocal in pretty much in every 4th group rn (I’m not sure about all the nugus)
@@mimi_imfat I think in all groups, besides 12dal. Actually I don’t know much about 12dal
In EVERY 4th gen GG
When sieun hit a whistle note I was in utter shock
I'm too lazy to find it, where is it?
@@dylaaaiiiiin 3:33
1. Lily
2. Haewon
3. NingNing
4. Yunjin
5. Liz
6. Lia
7. Sieun
Yeah very similar
@izonexbae I want to put Sieun higher because she's bolder but Lia is generally more consistent. I feel like with a little training Sieun could easily be Average.
@@deyoncew3311 It's pretty easy for anyone to get up to Average with any training tbh. In fact, one could probably land around there as a self taught singer
@@zhejiwooinkwangyaI never knew this..if its so easy how do kpop companies genuinely train their vocalists for half of the industry to be w-a ...
@@tajomari1124 Mhm... you know, a vocal coach can go on and on for years giving the same right advice and exercises, but if the singer never actually puts it into their practice, they'll never see growth.
Im voting jo yuri as well. She has a very rich and unique vocal color and can definitely go up there. She has been slaying since 2018
YESS
All I know is that Lily has the best 4th gen vocals so far (for me). The control of that girl in her voice is insane. Even from a very young age, that was evident. You can even compare her to the best of the best from the older gens, and she'd have no problem reaching their level (e.g. the Ailee/Yuju collab). Give her a tad bit more time to develop and I'm confident she might just become the best kpop vocalist of all time
That being said, Haewon is definitely not too far behind. Nmixx in general has one of the best vocalists, so that doesn't surprise me. I agree with the ranking, except for Lily and Haewon (1st and close 2nd), and the last 2 in the list. I'd say Sieun is a tad bit better than Lia since Lia kinda struggles a bit even in the vocal range she's supposed to be most comfortable in :) Still... they're all amazing vocalists (and more importantly, they're all better than me lol)
Lily and Haewon are the best 1,2 punch in the 4th gen and then you add Sullyoon.... it is insane.
Plus every other member can support. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love Lia’s voice! Her emotion when she sings she makes me want to cry. She just get shy but she sounds so beautiful.
Lilly vocal range is actually Eb3-Bb5-Bb5
The Eb3 was in the staff's wedding "To you my light". The Bb5 (hv) was in her vlive practicing on "Ego" - Beyonce.
Can you link the Bb5 on ego? Im doing a vocal showcase
@@Glossyxxbeeeeen she did a Bb5 of sullyoons high note in dice at Mama
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc i said ego not dice...
I wish goeun, chaehyun, monday were here too. also the fact that karina, winter and giselle could also make it in the list is insane.
please, chaehyun is so underrated
sullyoon & kyujin too ?
@@pinkystar6469 yepp
Chaehyun??? That sm reject???
I'm pretty sure Weeekly Monday is on top tier in this list with Lilly Haewon and Ningning
Main Vocal Main Dance with powerful rap.
even though liz is low and behind now, she has such a unique vocal colour that is rich, but smooth and sweet that stands out from the rest of her group. starship needs to capitalize on that. she needs real deal training and a giant confidence boost because she has astronomical potential to rise the ranks. go liz
The way sieun can hit 3 of the highest notes ( BB5,G6, and F6)in kpop with ease and walk out without broken vocal cords is CRAZY
If she keeps doing that, she will regress
And we all know she's a weak vocalist
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIctrue
Idk much about vocal technique but I loved and kept repeating Ningning’s belt during Savage’s 1st prechorus on their 1st encore. Like yes girl! Belt that with confidence!
I wish she sang more like that. I notice the fear in her eyes whenever she has to belt or even just sing live in general (which is interesting since Winter’s the opposite, girl doesn’t give af lol). I personally think her nicest moments are when she’s in a casual setting. So much potential when she gets over that hurdle.
Late but I seriously hope Lia gets the right sources for vocal training after Itzy disbands, she has so much potential, but her biggest issue is her confidence and her mixed, her A4 sounds effortless at times and she can even sing Bb4 back then, she needs to be taught how to belt properly
haewon has the best vocal tone in 4 gen argue with me
Arguing about vocal tone is subjective and is like comparing with apples to oranges. Which doesn't make any sense. So, if people were to argue with you, it would be like arguing with a wall since we all have our subjective taste. I also like Haewon's tone too.
@@justdb4 its just a joke bro
@@yerismind bye 💀
Doesn't deserve even an argue💀😂
Dependiendo el gusto de la gente, ella tiene una voz madura y sonora, pero su técnica no es la mejor de la cuarta generación. Aún así ella canta hermoso, seguro será una de las mejores en el futuro, sin embargo ser o no ser la mejor no minimiza su talento.
So in this list:
Low range: NingNing
Mid range: Haewon
Higher range: Lily
More like
Lows: Ningning
4th octave and Mid range: Haewon
Head voice and 5th octave: Lily
my favorite vocalist is Yunjin. every time she sings i feel her love for music.
I think Lilly has best vocal technique and powerful in pop song, but i like Sulyoon's voice tone/color/timbre, it rich but soft. The best musicality is Yunjin, and I considered only Yunjin now that I can called her as true artist.
Good video as always.
I just think you could give Lily D5/Eb5 since she showcase a good consistency with Eb5.
Also, I would give Yujin G#3/A3-Bb4/B4-G#5, since she showed the capacity to sustain and support up to G#5 and to phrase A5 with support, and she supported couple of G#3 like in raise your glass.
Anyway, glad you're back.💙
Nice addition, yeah about Lily and Yunjin I wasn’t sure in some spaces. I’d give Lily D5’s for sure not Eb5’s i think
And the hv yeah
@@izonexbae She sustained an Eb5 and I would call it support.
It was in her cover of time for the moon.
@@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell yeah i know she has sustained and phrased at times but the Eb5 has to be a bit more consistent for me at least
@@izonexbae Oh, ok.
Got it.
Thanks for your reply.💙
You're fast btw.🤣🤣🤣
@@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell always heheh
Yunjin is a weird case, cuz she seems to be the same as her predebut stage until you get to the higher end of her mixed voice and that at least to me is where i hear the difference, but nonetheless she still is a great vocalist with loads of potential
Hybe vocal coach is meh 😕
i think its also bc she stopped singing, she was going to go to university and move on from an idol life before hybe rang her. the others have been training cinsistently for years.
She is in HYBE... that's the problem. They have the worst vocal coaches.
Lily is so far ahead of any other 4th Gen idol, she's basically on the short list for the GOAT K-pop vocalist.
1. Lily A3 ~ Eb5 ~ G5
2. Haewon G#3 ~ C#5/D5 ~ Eb5/E5
3. Yunjin G#3 ~ B4 ~ G#5
4. Ningning F#3 ~ C5
5. Liz G#3/A3 ~ Bb4
6. Lia A3 ~ A4
7. Sieun Bb3 ~ G#4
Baby monster is coming guyssss haram pharita rora Chiquita already breaked recordss
It's really annoying how y'all say "Baemon is coming" whenever there's a vid Abt kpop vocalists yet their best vocalist is Mid W-A
The funny thing is my 4th gen fav idol is all started with letter L. Lia, Lily, Liz..gosh, I hope someday they can make a collab
Lily has A5 note in headvoice on her cover song "All I want for Christmas" tho
I thought Lily's lows consistently were only down to A3 wow she's even better than I thought 🤩
Ningning's supported range: F#3 - C#5
I might give her F#3 but her C#’s are inconsistent for me, so I wouldn’t fully give her that
F#3 - C5
Sieun have si much potential omg :0
My favorite is Liz, I LOVE HER VOCAL TONE!!!
New intro, new analysis and a new start!
Corrections about the vocal ranges:
Lily: Eb3-Bb5-Bb5
Yunjin: F3-F#5-C6(mightve gone higher)
I think that Billlie has some AMAZING main vocalists. It'd be really cool to see what you thought.
we dont need to battle we all know nmixx has the best vocalists of all 4th gen no one compares
Liz voice is so beatiful
it would be nice an agility ranking.
I feel like, in k-pop, riffs and runs are overlooked, but I'm a sucker for agilty, one of the reasons I love SulHaeLy so much.
I am a sucker for vocalists like D.O because his runs are great. Baek Yerin too.
Besides bringing more chest voice into her mix in the 5th octave, Ningning also should lift more her soft palate, that would give more of a open sound to her notes rather then the small quality thet her high notes have know.
Sullyoon is also a good vocalist,visual that actially can sing live
The way Sullyoon could also make it on this list 😭 Nmixx fighting!
The thing is although I love nmixx vocal ability and I like Haewons and sullyoons voices I can't stand Lily's voice sometimes. In highlight medley she sounds nice but sometimes in actually Nmixx songs I feel like her voice doesn't suit Idk why.
With NingNing I actually like her voice because I think it's really sweet but yes NingNing just needs more confidence
Yup we all have vocal tone preferences
lily's voice is rlly good
Voices like lilly are rare in the kpop industry, so it's expected some won't resonate with it for a while
@@GabrielAlves-ig6whidk her voice reminds me of winters as well but again I actually like winters voice on aespa songs idk why
Weeekly Monday deserve to be recognized as one of the top 4th gen vocalist. Her high note in 'Solar' on Weverse 💕 even her low note from 'when we were young' by Adele cover on radio. I mean there's a lot Monday sing live on Weverse that uploaded on UA-cam. Maybe it's time to analysis Weeekly Monday vocal.
lily and haewon is good but i love ningning's vocal more, her voice is everything
Honourable mention to one of the best vocalist in 4th gen , the one and only, Monday from Weeekly💝
liz has much pontential to make her mix balanced
I hope to see Monday of Weeekly in your next 4th Generation Vocal Analysys, pls.
I know Weeekly are quite underrated, but I think Monday is quite good to be analyzed in your channel.
Yeah i know Monday and love weeekly, will be featured very soon
Nmixx is everything
I agree with this ranking especially LILY and HAEWON and NINGNING
But there are also other amazing vocalists like CHAEHYON from Kep1er
I have a suggestion next time u can make the relaxed vocals in green, and the strained ones in red!
I think green is for supported notes, yellow is for relaxed notes, and red is for strained notes
my ranking :
1. Haewon ( i love her voice, her texture is everything. she is abs a vocal monster)
2. Lily ( obv amazing no doubt, i just personally prefer haewon's vocal tone over hers)
3. Ningning ( i mean,, she could easily be a vocal monster with a little improvement and much confidence, MY FAV FAV VOCAL TONE BTW)
4. Liz ( i need starship to give her a solo album asap, she'll EAT IT UP LIKE DAMN, i think she lacks in lower register but overall, she's so talented, again one of my fav)
5. Yunjin ( she can improve, her voice tends to strain a lot, and i believe her falsettos and head voice is more developed than chest voice. overall, beautiful tone)
6. Sieun ( she's endearing to listen to. her voice fits different genres easily)
7. Lia ( she can def improve a lot. huge potential i see in her. she's better than a lot of vocalist but i had to put her last in this particular list. her voice tends to strain, but her bright tone is really good)
How can someone be talented..haewon is literally top tier vocalist while being most skilled dancer in idol dance. Not even yg or sm can have idol like her . LMAO
Luna from f(x)
Luna, Taemin, Seohyun, Xiah Junsu..
LMAOO ever heard of luna from f(x)?? taemin from shinee?? seulgi from red velvet?? ( yes my girl seulgi can eat half of the 4th gen mains up. also around your fav jihyo vocally )
girl have u heard of Luna :))
@@rubyjaneluvbot Haewon easily outsings Seulgi tho.
For me it's Lily by far. She's "the different". Best vocalist, not only capable of reach high notes, but with an amazing and unique timber, texture, style.
i like yunjin and lily, i think they r great they have a powerful voice and that is so charming and so interested
I think Lia has the potential to be a powerhouse vocalist the problem is that, In true JYP fashion, she’s forced to sing with an unnatural tone. I think they wanted her to be the next Nayeon and make Yeji the next Jihyo but Lia, as you said, does better in a lower register. JYP has all these talented women in his company but if you’re not in Twice you’re given scraps. He has Twice until 2029 now so hopefully he’ll stop trying to recreate their magic and let Itzy and NMIXX create their own magic. Anyways, I’m not gonna sit here and rank talented women like they’re objects created solely for our entertainment during women’s history month or ever, so I put all of them at number one because they all have strengths and weaknesses and that’s just called being human and the real talent is putting yourself out into the public eye and taking criticism like water off a ducks back. All these Queens are amazing and deserve the world. Werk ladies!!
The problem is she doesnt have the same level of technique. I like ITZY btw.
@@saltyx4136 yeah I don’t understand why the company would train her vocal in an unnatural way like it’s obvious from debut. Dalla Dalla wasn’t within her comfort range so she wasn’t able to truly show off her vocals. I just hope that she doesn’t ruin her voice trying to fit the mold JYPE is putting her in.
It's JYPE* not JYP. The guy is not CEO.
@@oohmyjooy he created the company
@@SlayerJoe And he's not the one making the decisions anymore. He's not the one that "has twice till 2029" JYPE does. And it's about time kpop stans understand the difference.
Lia Vocal tone so unique & beautiful ❤️
Liz is better than I expected. Nice vid, Ryan!
Also can I ask you I question? 👉👈
Sure ask mee
@@izonexbae There are a few ppl saying Lia regressed and Yeji is slightly better than her now. How accurate is that? I haven't listening to their vocals a lot lately~
Also not sure if you are into pop songs, but in case you know her enough, how good is Sabrina Carpenter?
@@amityowl Lia didn't really regress, she's still less shallow than Yeji
Great video, i know it's just the most popular ones but maybe it will be more interesting if you want to make the most underrated ones like weeekly monday, purple kiss swan, cherry bullet bora etc and rank them too and compare the most popular and underrated so that will be awsome but i just tell anyway
Great idea, would make a very long video tho
I swear Ningning always looks/sounds like she will be sent straight back to China by SM if she makes just one mistake on stage. She has so much fear in her big eyes😂
It's because people are always racist towards her just because she is Chinese.
please add monday from weeekly support her vocals from F3-Eb5 and low tone Vocal Range from D3, and she has a very mature and extraordinary technique
Yeah her lows are crazy
Monday doesn't support above C#5 I think could be wrong
@@julusmalcolm he supports C# 5 in 2020 and now he's moving up to Eb5. If you don't believe me, check out Monday's cover, which features the song I have nothing, and grils reverse like a star , and twenty for twenty five by jaurim.
@@izonexbae isn't that so cool and great?
@@Owen_kim_Official Monday's C#5s are not that consistent, at least from what I've heard. Her Eb5s are all strained, same with her """supported""" D5s.
If Sieun had sm vocal trainers she would be unstoppable
I find Weeekly's Monday very impressive.
hi ningning has a D3 in dreams come true
Yeah i forgot
@@izonexbae she also has a Bb5 in the last chorus of salty and sweet
I would give NingNing C#5 cus she consistent with her C#5 in the Hyper Line Concert
I’m not sure about that concert since not everything was live. But she has some C#’s she just doesn’t have them the same way Haewon has them consistently. It’s mostly phrasing
@@izonexbae yeah idols used prerecord vocals
I think LILY's supported range is G#3~Eb5~G5
I think Lilly should get D5/Eb5 in her mixed register because she shows consistency in her Eb5's, just my opinion
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Bro the rapper line in NMIXX they can sing very well too. like dude they're rapper with almost swag voice but they can SLAY when they sing💅🏻🥵i can agree that NMIXX be one of the best 4th gen pure talented group
I believe part of the reason why it seems like Lily and Haewon can engage their chest effortlessly and with confidence is what Lily said in an interview. They "always sang in dance practices", they learnt from a very young age that stability was better with the chest locked in and the diaphragm supporting the voice. Sullyoon also has incredible support while dancing and has no issue engaging her chest. Bae even though she's a less proficient vocalist also has this ability but on a much narrower scope.
I'm not sure Nmixx has the best range, agility, tonality, dynamics etc.
But in support/stability they are redefining the standard of the entire industry, I wish more people would be aware of their talent.
Okey but the intro tho>>>>>
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random but i wld be curious of a wendy ningning and haewon trio
if by any miracle plsss Time After Timeeeee
other fantasy is liz plus joyuri and maybe winter
a full vocal perf of No~body lololol
when we get stage plzz
I wish Purple Kiss's Na Goeun was also here 😌
I mean, if she was, she would be above Yunjin and below Ningning. She has a better grasp on B4 than Yunjin does, and she is not as stylistic as Yunjin is as well.
@@justdb4Can you tell me where would be CRAXY's Swan would be ... If she was in the ranking
14:12 😱😱
I saw Lia as not so good, but wow, she made me eat my words
One of my favorite moments of her
Actually Ningining range is D3-G#5-C#6, mas Ningning os consistent supporting F#3/G3-C#5/D5-Eb5. Also Lily is very consistent with D5/Eb5, she even supported one or two E5s
Actually NingNing's highest mixed note is B♭5 ( In salty and sweet ) But would wait for a studio ver since its very borderline of headvoice.
C5/C♯5 or C5 would be fair enough for NingNing , I don't think she's consistent with D5 though. She usually gets too light and losses support above C5/C♯5.
@@YEOUN_channel but that is clearly head voice.
@@mikachumyzzz
It could be a very light mixing though , hence it's better to wait for the studio ver.
@@YEOUN_channel actually I bet that audio from their concert was of the oficial audio, since not seems to be pre recorded, because its obviously not live, the others songs are but this not, and has a channel that put the audio very clearly almost like a studio version, but the crowd screams still there, but lower.
F#3/G3~C5 is closer for Ningning (C5/C#5 pretty much the same thing, but I'm a bit averse to giving her C#5 since more material has come out...). Above C5, she starts showing issues with the overly light mix coordination. As for her HV, she can pull it off sure, but even when she can pull out a HV, the connection and coordination is still pretty weak and she mainly relies on a falsetto instead.
Based on the clips and how you described them. I’m guessing:
1. Lily
2. Haewon
3. NingNing
4. Liz
5. Lia
6. Yunjin
7. Sieun
My personal preference tho (style, tone)- if everyone’s as confident as Lily and they sing in their most comfortable ranges:
1. Liz
2. Lia
3. Haewon
4. Yunjin
5. Ningning
6. Lily
7. Sieun
OMG i almost put Yunjin as top 4 (based it on the clips) but the description/analysis made me confused 😂 almost got everything right!
2-Lia.☠️☠️☠️
@@daniel_cimiel what's wrong?
i wouldn’t give G3 to Lily. she has very few good G3s. she’s rather only consistent with G#3 / A3. if you gave G3 to Lily you should also give it to Haewon cuz even Haewon has more G3s than Lily.
i agree with pretty much everything else you said, i feel like a big problem for haewon is her nasality tho, especially when she doesn’t necessarily belt big long sustained notes. her placement is usually good for those like that sustained C5 you showed but a lot of the times she opts for this very nasal unpleasant sound which i wish she would fix SO SO BAD
Hm I rarely hear Haewon go down to G3 all too much. Even then, her and Lily lows aren't too far apart. I don't hear Haewon utilizing her stronger chest voice in her lows much.
Yeah. It’s a weird habit she has
i mean G#3/A3 is kinda a stretch already czz she is usually muffled and quiet below A3/Bb3
@@Girlsaregirling09 nah now she should be given G#3/A3
It is not just how high the note is, but how precisely on tune it is. All other things being equal, whoever has the most power wins.
Some girls have just devastatingly beautiful voices-- that counts for a lot for me.
IMHO, in order:
Precisely on tune, range, power, the beauty of voice.
i'm suprised to not see goeun and swan of purple kiss on here or haram of billie
Would have loved to see your opinion on Swan and Go Eun of PURPLE kiss. Especially goeun
Lily doesn't have G3s, she sometimes gets too light even on A3s. She's also quite consistent with Eb5s, I don't see why she wouldn't get D5/Eb5.
I agree
Her bb4's and bb5's are shouty
@@이런-아 Bb4 no but Bb5 is a really high note obviously its "Shouty"
@@imfoive991 they're shouty she needs to work on them
@@이런-아 Bb4 isnt
i know you write a note on the first screen, but i guess you better add a note on the title that this is the rank among only popular group of 4th gen; cause i expect more of 4th gen gg main vocalists would get mentioned cause if we talk more about 4th gen in general (that not only the popular one) it contain many great main vocalists tho
There are definitely a few decent ones but i’d personally say great would be an overstatement
But i’ll make it more clear next time
@@izonexbae I get it. Okayy thank you ✨
Idnt know liz had so many good clips, can u make a playlist of all of them pleae
Could you maybe also analyze my voacls too lol?? 😂 I love singing and even had a childhood dream of becoming a singer haha but now I just do it for fun and as a hobby. I think I do have pretty good vocals but I cannot understand how my voice works 😅
Ning’s support range is C3-C#5-Eb5 …
She doesn't even consistently support an C5💀
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc ofc it’s a floppixx Stan, ningning always supports C5, also aespa always outriches outfames outpopulars outcharts flopmixx
Nmixx is the best 4th gen girl group vocally. I sometimes even forget that they are from JYP.