The irony of Jen complaining about "men mansplaining her own field of expertize" to Bruce that been struggling with the Hulk for years, while she just recently became a hulk. She literally Hulksplained the Hulk to the Hulk, and somehow, this went completely over the heads of the writers.
Let's not forget she was likely talking about the opening practice speech scene. Which is still dumb because she is a paralegal which is a lawyer lit edition and after a google search shouldn't be talking during the trial in the first place. So turns out that "toxic" man hade VERY real concerns
Id argue this. She-Hulk does have lots of flaws. SHe's impatient, cowardly, self absorbed, narcisistic, violent, and lacks a complete sense of self awareness. She's easily the most flawed character in modern history. The problem is the writers think that those are positives.
Should be noted that in the OG Parody Star Treck fanfic the Mary Sue term comes from, Mary Sue herself has flaws. The existence of flaws or not isn't the issue, but if those flaws actually lead to consequences. Because when they don't, it's clear the fictional universe they live in just bends to their will, and that's what makes a Mary Sue. She-Hulk believes her hardships triumphs that of everyone else around her, so everyone acts like she does.
Girl Hulk complaining about cat calling to a man who has literally tried to kill himself, is accidentally the most perfect representation of current year feminism that anyone could possibly have created.
Notice how in recent years more and more memes simply manifest into reality, in the same way a Babylon Bee headline is always correct (it's just a matter of time). Current year is a big meme, you either become the joke or laugh at it
"...show Jen actually struggling and facing some real oppression..." Problem is, the writers have absolutely no idea what real oppression is. They live in a world of mean tweets.
She's literally listing "People are sometimes rude to me in the course of my life" as the reason she's stronger and more seasoned than someone who has actually been on the front lines of a war for YEARS. They honestly believe that catcalling (someone was impolite to me in public!!!!) is true suffering.
@@eisenhower163 what attitude? You mean the attitude of ‘boobahs are purty’? Or ‘I’m a horny dude and I want some attention and validation from a beautiful woman’? Because that’s all catcalling comes from. Yes, it’s rude. Yes, it’s annoying. But it is not dangerous, nor is it a bad reflection on society, just on the individual men who catcall. Jen hulking out to straight up attack men for just being obnoxious and likely UTI *is* a bad reflection on society, however, because way too many men and women have decided that this is a *good* reaction for a woman to have towards a minor inconvenience. And what, you may ask, gives me the right to say that catcalling is a mere inconvenience? I have the right as well as the expertise to say this because I am a woman, and I have been catcalled. I just move on with my life. As Jen should have, if she really was so good at controlling her emotions.
We all know gaston is the hero. There is no way a mostrous monarch that kidnaps a man and holds him hostage so his daughter will live with him forever all while ensalving his servants as living furniture for all of eternity is the hero. What was the worst thing gaston did? Be a narcissist and like a woman for her looks instead of her intelligence. Meanwhile as soon as he finds out bell was kidnapped he immediately goes to take down her captor. The beast has a room filled with destroyed furniture, which we have long established are alive and used to be people.
@@averagejoe9040 It depend on what show we are talking. Because in the latest Disney version Gaston was a villain, considering how he treated Bell's father.
Also the fact that she thinks its criminal for men to objectify her while the show regularly has her objectify Captain America for his physical appearance
@@davfree9732 don’t know about that, unless most men have already had so many sexist feminist shows/movies they’re pretty numb to it while the women are starting to feel the empowering, liberating veneer these shows claim to have peel off before them I can see most women finding Jennifer as highly insufferable as any straight-forward, chauvinistic, misogynistic dudebro who thinks women are either stupid or gay to not find him attractive. She’s basically that but with extra steps
His facial expressions were pretty damn hilarious in that scene, I love the memes overlaying all his trauma as she blathers on over comparatively NOTHING.
I love how the writers have unintentionally made the scene so, that he is actually showing just how full of shit she is, because he is able to take her belittling abuse with a smile and not loose his cool, while she is practically foaming from the mouth.
I've heard it over and over since this abomination of a series dropped but I'm still GOBSMACKED at the of irony in the line "when incompetant men explain to me my area of expertise" while SHE'S EXPLAINING HOW TO BE THE HULK, TO THE HULK.
I just realized if she was conscious the whole time that means that she was trying to murder those dudes. And top it off they wasn’t catcalling her they were being friendly
Honestly starting to think the writers were aware of this, but just trying to see how retarded they can be and get away with it. There is absolutely no way they didnt catch that.
In the original comic, Bruce saves Jen after the car crash. Of course, a CIS male rescuing a strong female character from anything these days is unacceptable, so they changed it.
Well in the original comic, it was a mob hit because she was prosecuting a mob boss. Then Bruce not only had to save her but fight them off without "hulking out."
I wouldn't have minded if Jen saved Human Bruce if he returned the favor for her. She pulls him out of the car but gets severely wounded. So Bruce does what he can to save her.
I'd love if that was the "real story" of what happened, a 1 to 1 match with the comics, but the show we're watching is Jen spinning a yarn about how she wants her movie to be made. Then we learn at the end of the series that really it was exactly as it happened in the comics.
Honestly, they really missed a trick. After Jen's monologue about how good she is at controlling her anger, there should be a moment where Bruce calmly and sagely explains all of the things he's been through, the hardships he's faced, and that the fact she thinks that her mundane life experiences make her good at controlling her anger is an insult to the highest degree. He then explains that a normal person would be absolutely incensed at the temerity of her suggestion, but he is not, as he illustrates by returning to normal, because he has learned a degree of control that can only come from extreme situations, which Jen has never even come close to experiencing. It would be important to keep his tone friendly, but stern. He is the expert here, but he doesn't get frustrated with Jen. There would be an interesting mirroring in that Jen begins to hulk slightly in her monologue, but Bruce becomes less hulk, subtly signalling that perhaps he is correct.
That would genuinely be a great scene, and if she showed humility after that, it would make us appreciate her more for being humble, and even if she rejected it, it would give her a genuine character flaw to overcome: Pride and Arrogance. However, the invisible Marvel Rules that a Man must never correct a Woman, prevents this from happening.
That would've been so cool! I've seen several people give their take on how this scene should've been rewritten for story and character development, but this takes the cake as the best one I've seen yet!
It's also ironic that Jen says that she might get murdered, yet she is the one who almost murdered people who's crime was being obnoxious at worst. So much for controlling her anger "infinitely better" than the guy who's been going through this for over a decade. I thought mental health was important or something. It's also... kind of depressing... how those women "helped" Jen earlier, because they assumed she was going through domestic abuse, and their "solution" was to erase any and and all evidence of it and do nothing to actually help her or keep her safe.
A little fun fact: That bathroom scene was originally removed as Marvel even admitted it was shit. But the writers caused a big stink and got it put back in for the sake of muh themes. The article I read said they "fought" for it, like it was some kind of corporate dirty dealings. But come on. These are woke writers here. We all know what probably happened in that board room. The words I'd use for that scene would be: depressing, stupid, or more accurately, pretty goddamn morbid. So a woman walks into a bathroom, bloodied and dirty. Your first instinct is to cover her in make up, change her clothes, and give her some kind of fucked up pep talk... What was the 'message' here again? Oh, way to dress Jen up like a hooker. Totally appropriate for somebody you suspect to had been a victim of domestic abuse. Really classy, writers. Very cool. Better yet, why didn't Jen push these people away and say she'd been in accident? You know, like any rational person would do. Oh right, because the writers can't have their characters have any kind of natural reaction to things. It would ruin their 'themes'... The catcall scene was beyond moronic. Apart from Jen almost killing people over some trashy flirting. Why the hell didn't she remove herself from the situation and go back inside the bar where she'd be safer? More people, more witnesses, and likely more security. Again, can't have logic get in the way of "themes"... I would say something about the catcalling itself. But it's so retarded and artificial that it'd be redundant. It's clear that the writers just don't understand how basic social interactions work, much less catcalling.
If this was marvel netflix they could have had the group of guys be actually fucked up and assault her. But its disney so they can't do that. What is the fucking point of disney plus!? Jessica jones handled the assault stuff way better. Agent Carter handled the women in a workplace infinitely better.
"I feel like i live in a world made of cardboard. Always taking constant care not to break something, to break *someone,* never allowing myself to lose control, even for a moment, or someone could die." That is the line said by Superman in the finale of the wonderful JLU animated show. It describes Superman pretty damn well, but i always felt like it describes the Hulk even better, because Bruce Banner, from the beginning, had to fight tooth and nail for every single inch of _actual control,_ and, so very often, him hurting innocent people was out of his hands. MCU, first with Endgame, and now with this, have essentially made the Hulk into a gimmick.
Superman was from a time were flaws and power was made up wen needed, and even to this day they still trying come up with ways of nerfing him for he was created to powerfull. Hulk hole thing was the: you can be the strongest mand in the world, but you have no wary littel control over it. Seeng Hulk gain control over his form in the Marvel movies is really epick as we can see how much his struggle with it. but to remove the control part is just missing the point of Hulk. Shes just green super girl then... but wose as she steps on such a great character. This is such a bad joke.
I love that you used overlord as your example of a power fantasy, where the main character actually not only struggles with keeping up a ruse to avoid everything falling apart, but he is also depicted as the bad guy.
Guy actually practices infront of a mirror to get the impressions right, he's still reading keeping up a facade to appear as the powerful guy but when you read the LN and see his inner thoughts you can tell that he's still not as comfortable in the role of an all powerful leader taking over the world. I love this schism in Overlord.
yes overlord is the worst example,in particular given that the series isn't about the fight(and a lot of fight in the anime are removed or made shorter)is more about world-building ecc
I'm genuinely staggered at the complete lack of awareness in the writing team that led them to honestly have, in a single sentence, Jen complaining about "incompetent men in her field saying they know better" while talking to PROFESSOR FUCKING HULK about how she's the best at controlling her emotions.
Or just the fact she’s telling a man she controls emotions infinitely more. Excuse me but men are literally raised and told not to show emotion. To “man up” and that “men don’t cry”. It’s literally when men are far less likely to seek help,therapy or even open up to loved ones about feelings because we are raised to view it as a weakness. The show literally just took the mask off of the phase and verbally told everyone what marvel is about this time around.
@@zz3OPEN gender and race. They are doing the same thing in other production companies and if you don’t know the source work you can miss it. Sandman’s adaption I’m Netflix literally replaced 90% of the characters that were white males with either black males or black women. They even changes slight story points to make some of the bad characters they changed to black look like good characters or martyrs. But the despicable really bad people they left white.
"When I'm catcalled in the street" *Remember her hulking out on and almost killing those guys who had pretty much only catcalled her earlier in the episode* Gonna have to press X to doubt there, Jenny.
At least the original She-Hulk comic had the plot point that Bruce had to give Jen a blood transfusion so that she had a much more understandable reason why she would Hulk out. Also it makes sense why Hulk has the whole rage monster and She-Hulk doesn't, because she doesn't have the amount of trauma that Bruce does (obviously they didn't even try to tackle that in the show)
I like that Jen tells Bruce that she's better at controlling her emotions shortly after she almost MURDERS 2 INNOCENT PEOPLE AS SHE WAS LEAVING THE BAR. And no, Woke NPCs, being male and trying to speak to a woman does not constitute a crime.
I was puzzled by that scene. For the majority of the interaction, it sounds like the dudes are just making conversation. Or maybe want to help the small, obviously shaken up woman in the mis-matched p1mp jacket.
@@elusivemayfly7534 Or how a group of club-women were promoted as, "A very realistic approach to the sanctuary that is a womans restroom" when they assumed she was beaten by a boyfriend or pimp daddy and how they were going to clean her up and throw her back out on the streets by herself.
@@elusivemayfly7534 Imagine that scene. Jen realizing that she nearly killed 2 people that were concerned for her well-being. That would change her conversation with Bruce a LOT.
The literal twerking with a famous rapper proves just how committed they were to being vapid garbage for boring moms to watch. It's like those channels where you just watch a family live their life.
Is Megan Thee Stallion really famous? I mean, when I heard the name I thought it was a character the writers of the show made up. Because, you know, comedy.
3:48 Wait, so _that's_ how she gets hulk powers in the show? Bruce _happens_ to be wearing some completely unnecessary arm brace that inhibits his hulk powers---just so he's able to bleed 100% pinpoint accurately into her totally _accidental_ open wound? I thought she was supposed to get an actual blood transfusion from Bruce after she was shot like in the comics. Feels so lame and contrived.
She Hulk is a master class representation of how it feels to be a woman in current year. A never ending bestowment of abilities, opportunities, and shortcuts granted by those who walked the less travelled path and suffered while doing so, coupled with a bottomless spite and ignorance of those who paved said way for them, and an outright dismissal of their suffering as trivial and mindset that however painful it was, their existence as a woman is infinitely worse. I half expect Marvel to drop a character who references Cap's line about laying down on the wire for the good of the team by saying something so absolutely cringe like "Oh you bled and sacrificed to save the world? I bleed once a month, I have it worse"
Hell you could say that with a lot more than feminism... Companies have become so nepotistic it's become a mirror of ancient feudal bloodlines. These same kids have no interest in what they've been given because they were never asked what they wanted to do. It then follows the same story of hiring someone who the bosses know vs the person who's best for the job.
Not all women have it like that struggles are stile struggles with either gender I'm pretty sure that people stile don't value women as much for they're actual achievements and skills like Sue storm I know she'll probably be messed up but she had a point about feeling invisible in the Jessica alba FF movie she does legitly have the the same set of skills as Dr Doom and Reed Richards but you never see her proclaimed as a genius. And it'll probably be considered shallow to you cause ""girls don't struggle" but that's the reason one of my written characters reason for pretending to be a guy I realise I had yet to write or think of some added truama other then being a robot in a position where you have to get people to seriously listen to you because things have clearly gotten better from the sexism front but there's stile discrimination when It comes to regarding the skills that women actually have especially when the womens more soft spoken.
not to be too snarky, but "representation how it feels to be a woman in current year" said by a man has about the same lack of self awareness vibe as Shehulk. Maybe this show is handcrafted for people like you.
@@AnimaVox_ when has a feminists writer ever written a compelling story like that? You guys constantly keep giving benefits of the doubt with Disney and time and time again they never exceed expectations when it comes to female protagonist.
@@Evolution-Is-A-Blatant-Lie Disney's been on my blacklist for years, lol. Idk what your comment has to do with me. I'm connecting this show's terrible writing to a concept seen in 1984, because that's what it looks like to me.
@@AnimaVox_ Im betting my car and assets if they can pull it off. Hell, they already contradicted her entire "character" with this after scene garbage in just 3 episodes. Again...when has Disney EVER used reference from the original source material?
You can have a near "perfect" protagonist, but you have to make them face adversity. A pious person in a world that constantly challenges their morality, is a good example. That's what Trigun did as a series. You need to find a way for the protagonist to struggle.
That is also what batman is. In the dark knight, the whole struggle is whether batman will have to break his code to be able to stop his adversary. We also see this in the captain america movies, the struggle is about how the character responds when the world increasingly is against him. We go from seeing him and the US government completely on the same page, and movie by movie see them move further qnd further until they completely flip on him to the point where he becomes an outlaw.
Yes. Ironically, Marvel already did this perfectly with Steve Rogers. Every movie in the Captain America trilogy puts him through the wringer. Every victory comes at enormous personal cost. It's what makes him an interesting character instead of a preachy entitled asshole. Shame the She-Hulk writers didn't follow that example.
@@oliviastratton7097 hell, even the hulk, being treated as a glorified side character in the avenger movies had more development than a character leading her own show. in the few lines they gave him you felt the struggle he has gone through yet somehow they couldn't manage it with a main character of an entire season of a show.
Oh my goodness Someone actually talked about my favorite anime. Not only that but we also see how he's not as invincible as he seems when we see the many many many scars on his figure hell he's lost an arm over his no killing code most of his battles weren't a breeze he has lost a lot but he persevered and kept his head up. And all of that even before the story even began She hulk dose non of this, the least they could have done is reveal her confidence and annoying SAS is just a veneer that she keeps up because she just genuinely wants to be this person in her head but has a hard time doing so. I didn't need a degree in literature to come up with that so how dose a staff of professional writers do worse.
@zephaniahdejene1746 Of course, we see the very visible consequences Vash had to face in Trigun. It is a very important part of showing he isn't just a Mary Sue. He has had tons of loss on all levels of his life.
Jen: fear and anger are, like, the baseline traits of any woman just existing I hate that this is exactly how woke Twitter users talk, right down to the wording. I've never heard somebody use the phrase "just existing" or "LITERALLY just trying to exist" except for weirdos that use Twitter, TikTok & Tumblr for 6 hours a day.
I always joke that Disney is allergic to humor. No crass, mean or gross humor, Nothing that can be considered offensive. Only safe jokes (considered safe by modern sensibilities). Even in the stuff meant for the older audience. There's a reason satires have fun dunking on Disney.
@@adamsavage2646 the only belief they bow to is the dollar. they don't give a shit about anyone's belief, only which country is going to make them bank.
"Having Jen show some weakness might just make the audience more sympathetic and root for her." This right here is a major reason why I consider Mrs. Brisby from Secret of NIMH one of the best written characters in cinema. She's not particularly strong or clever, she's just a normal person (well, mouse) who shows great courage in overcoming her fears so she can save her family, because the responsibility is hers and it needs to be done. She also didn't have the luxury to whine or cry about it (the scene where the shrew scolds her for breaking down), there was literally no time for her to vent any of her emotions. If she didn't have it together, that was it, her children and home were _gone._ It's amazing how much more mature and poignant the writing from a decades-old children's film is than most of the "adult-oriented" entertainment we get today.
@@cristela4034 Using an extreme, fringe example to try bolster her point. But being in a western country (and probably not a particularly dangerous area of that country, either) I don't think it's realistic, at all. Please tell us how rough you have it as a well-to-do lawyer, of all things (I assume, I haven't watched this nor do I ever intend to). A woman from a broken family who has had to resort to sex work to get by, living in an impoverished, dangerous city and potentially having drug abuse problems too? Maybe then she'd have a point. But I guess that's a reality that doesn't fit their narrative.
Overlord is arguably the worst example you could have shown at 1:10. Yes, he isn’t rivaled strength-wise by the inhabitants of the world he is sent to, but the real conflict stems from his relationship with his subordinates. They all expect him to act as some sort of supreme perfect ruler (which is what you were talking about), but he’s just some regular ass guy trying his best not to let his subordinates down, who he basically sees as his friends’ kids. I could go in depth but that’s basically the overview. It’s probably the only isekai type show/LN I enjoy. I promise you that it is actually good.
Their knowledge is so fucked that a quick Google search shows they had fucked up writing since the very first scene. Jen being a paralegal means she isn't allow to speak on behalf of someone is court. It's basically the law equivalent of a resident for a doctor. They are meant to observe and help with paperwork. So them labeling that guy as toxic is wrong because he literally said everything right.
Also the main bulk of Bruce and Jen's interaction doesn't feel like they are close family members, at all. It felt like they were strangers stuck with each other and Bruce was the only one trying. Also if they went with the comics origin they could have played with blaming Bruce for turning her into she-hulk but they showed us he didn't do it on purpose and didn't even know anything was gonna happen.
That's something that really bothers me about the rant scene. It's written as though she doesn't know any of his hardships or worse, doesn't care. Given how she's a first cousin, she should be reasonably close with him or at least have a general idea of his life, especially since he's the freaking Hulk and there's gotta be news outlets recording any appearance he makes. What about the scene of him attacking the city in Age of Ultron? Surely she'd figure he'd have some terrible remorse or even PTSD after being mind-controlled into attacking innocents. That leaves us with the possibility that she doesn't care, making her a horribly toxic family member who only focuses on "number one" and is unsympathetic to all the trauma of her close family. If anything, this scene should make her closer to a villain, or at least someone who needs some *serious* character development. Of course, however, the show tries to convince you that she's completely flawless and she's incapable of error, which gives the horrible message that it's okay to belittle the suffering of those close to you to young Marvel fans. It's the same issue with "they'll never know what you sacrificed" and WW84, teaching horrible lessons to our youth to be hateful, impulsive, greedy, arrogant, and selfish and if anyone opposes your actions, they're simply jealous or some form of -ist. It reflects poorly on our generation and worse on the writers. Sorry for this incredibly long tangent holy cow
Yeah I don't know too much about the comics but from what I understand Jen was kind of a shy girl then when she gets her power becomes confident as she-hulk. In the show from scene 1 she already seems pretty confident and comfortable with herself and what not. It makes her getting powers kinda undeserving in a way. It's like if Peter was a popular cocky rich kid and was blessed with powers he kinda doesn't need. It's sad because with good writing it could've been really good
She got her powers by accident, who said she deserves it or not? the whole point of the show is "if you suddenly got powers, you now have the responsibility to protect those weaker than yourself"
@@adamsavage2646 The point of the show is the make Jen look flawless imo everything works out for her. She's a pretty confident successful woman before she gets powers then gets them and it just makes her already good life 10x better. She doesn't struggle with anything then gets these great power
"One of those isekai cartoons where the main character is a overpowered loser" Love how you showed overlord as a example when ainz is the farthest character from a loser being an acting king and all also refusing the advances of multiple women intrested in him
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 "and mentions one of the good isekai" Yea having a story about the struggles of a average dude stuck in a role of a undead king is a beyond unique idea Yet somehow it's just as bad as sao where the main character plot magic revives himself versus heathclip Dude has not seen ether show to make a judgement of their quality, Stich that being not you
Think what he meant was an every day loser who becomes overpowered. And I tried watching this series, wasn't as nearly as interesting as people make it out to be. The protagonists are just overpowered villains who just can't lose.
Nope, One Punch Man is essentially an over the top comedy. Overlord is a fat ugly loser nerd wish-fulfillment, who is so "bad ass" cuz he's dark and ruthless. One Punch Man is an a-hole too but that's part of the comedy.
@@bocchithean-cap3404 it's not like you have seen the 4th season entirely. and, believe me, things change. you can't recycle the same kind of content from season 1 all the time. you need to offer background to prepare the new story arc. did you saw episode 10? Ains shock at having his trops wiped by a single person almost made him pee himself. and managed to make the guardians believe it was his intention to lose those troops. I don't want to make too many spoilers but I also find interesting the reaction, and promise, of Ains when the nobles gave him their "gift".
At least we now know what a Feminist super hero would actually act like. Now imagine that, but without all the Mary Sue stuff and breathe a sigh of relief that there are no super powered feminists out there.
I would have loved to see her struggle with herself. These aren't writers, they are activists, and destroying wholesome fiction is part of their war on thought crime.
@@BBar13 you’re talking about activists, he’s talking about champagne activists. People who parrot what is acceptable for street cred but never leave their comfort zones to do anything about it. It’s a shame the bad ones are far louder and far more relevant now to the public consciousness.
Overlord is supposed to be about an exploration of a fantasy world from the perspective of (who I call) God. A lot of the plot revolves around the way people and monsters interact with Ainz and it has genuinely good writing. Even the slower paced and somewhat lackluster new season pulls off an amazing twist when fighting the platinum knight.
I like how she-hulk got her powers from the *grotesquely muscular* Hulk, but somehow, that translates to her being implied to be stronger than the Hulk, but at the same time somehow her body only becomes moderately more muscular unlike the extremely overmuscled Hulk. This says a lot about the creators of the show. 1: They decided that giving She-Hulk an amount of muscle more proportionate to her strength was less important than making sure she still appeared attractive. (They chose Objectification over Realism) 2: By not giving She-Hulk a more appropriate amount of muscle compared to regular hulk, they actually support the idea that men and women have vastly different biologies in key areas, which is a position that people who support the idea of trans athletes would probably take umbrage with. 3: By not giving her a similar amount of muscle to the regular hulk, the creators have put on full display that they believe that men and women deserve to be treated and/or represented in an unbalanced fashion. Big oof. Look, I get that the original She-hulk didn't have that much muscle either, but If the new creators want to act like they are so woke, they better start freaking trying harder haha.
In a world filled with darkness, a light shines through the darkness. In that light stands a cartoon figure which is mostly black, which is kind of confusing because it kind of darkens the light. But you kind of want to see where this is going so you walk towards the light anyway. Everything turned out okay in the end and we all went out to have pizza and ice cream.
But Overlord's great, it's completely self-aware as to how much of a blatant power fantasy it is for Ainz. He's so obviously THAT GUY in a tabletop game that brings so much cheese to the table that people become lactose intolerant.
I always assumed that Bruce's dual personalities was a mental condition he had as a person rather than it coming with the powers, seeing as he seems to be the ONLY Hulk with a second personality.
Yeah, apparently the trauma he suffered as a child was what manifested that second personality. So Jennifer Walters has no second personality cause she had a more stable life. Yet, in the show they made it look like she can control her powers better cause she suffered more than Bruce Banner, smh.
@@cristela4034 Bruce has multiple hulks/personalities. Joe Fixit "Grey Hulk", Devil Hulk, Savage Hulk (Classic Green), World War/Worldbreaker hulk. Just thought I'd add some trivia
@@grantchandler13 That's cool! I never really read the comics, but I did heard from comic book readers that the reason he had multiple personalities was cause of trauma.
@@cristela4034 That's correct. His father was an abusive drunk who was jealous of Bruce because he took his wife's attention away from him. He tried to kill Bruce but ended up killing his wife in front of Bruce. He then went to abuse Bruce until his death.
@@cristela4034 Yeah, Jen is *infinitely* more privileged than Bruce even at a very basic level (i.e., she didn't need to watch her dad beat her mom to death when she was a kid) and yet she thinks she's had a harder life than him. It's like a tasteless meme: a man can be orphaned, experimented on by his own father, made a pariah, hated by the world, and suffer from massive mental illness, lose his two best friends, and then, only then, can he understand the pain of a woman being catcalled.
Ok but In Overlord, yes Ains is the main character but in each arc the plot revolves around different characters and you end up caring about them and praying they don’t cross paths with Ains
plus the problem of ainz are other,like train for seem the best ruler,and being is op result in a lot of misunderstanding and advance of plot,isn't a random things and the show is pretty good because,the stakes are for other character not for them,plus you is entertaing see what they do or know more about nazarick ecc
It's also funny how the writers also admitted that they wanted to write a court drama about Emil bloomski but it was too hard so they gave up. They're actually incompetent, admit that, but they get to write it because "the right politics". Also yay another sitch video! I guess it's another 3 years before the next one.
No offense, but Overlord has among the Isekai animes actually an interesting story and the main character does struggle in different ways, even if pure power isn't one of these. So naming that as a power fantasy, well...there would have been better choices.
@@PretzelSage I'm confused by Sword Art Online, because so many people say it's good but when I watched it I found out within 3 episodes that Kirito is, in fact, an idiot.
@@Mediados SAO was good for like the first 12 episodes. After that it becomes dogwater. Its literally some guys fantasy who was probably bullied in school
I like how you tried to use isekai's to compare to the power problem. What's wrong is that you used Overlord for that. Yeah he is powerful but he ain't no loser.
As much as I hate to admit it, the isekai comparison is pretty spot on. That said, in terms of naked power fantasy, I think Kirito would’ve been a more apt comparison. At least in Overlord, the author is self aware enough to admit Momonga is an overpowered loser and the joke is he has no idea what he’s doing.
Whats funny to me is if you watch any reviews of this show, the reviewer's mind is struggling with how to make the show not suck. Because its not a bad premise. In fact I think it could be a great premise for a superhero to want to focus on their profession that they dedicated their life to, rather than superhero antics, but struggle with the feeling of duty and obligation they feel given their unique circumstance. Instead we get she-hulk twerking.
I think something of interest here is the sheer difference in times these two characters gained their powers in. Bruce gained hulk powers long before defending Earth was even an objective. He was hounded for his senseless destruction just so he could be a weapon of the state against other nations. On the flipside, She Hulk gains her powers when "being a superhero" is an actual job description. She doesn't have to hide like Hulk does and I think this dichotomy could have been used well. Something to give her appreciation and something to help heal Bruce's broken heart.
Banner tried to kill himself by putting a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. The HULK spits out the bullet. HULK TRANSFORMATION IS INSTANTANEOUS. Banner said that in the movie. How did he stay human when the car started rolling downhill??????
Unrelated, but the little jab at Overlord kinda misses the point (at least where the novels are concerned). The series focus heavily on world-building and character interactions, and the MC being overpowered isn't treated as a power fantasy but more as a tremendous force that the side characters have to maneuver around or confront. The heavy usage of viewpoint switching also amplifies the ironic comedy and dramatic elements.
To add. Ainz actually does have a flaw. Intelligence. The dude almost entirely has to piggyback off demiurge and his intellect. Albedo too to an extent is smarter than Ainz. Ainz only has working knowledge of game mechanics and his npcs strengths and weaknesses from the game, which he has to confront in season 1 with Shalltears mind control.
@@meh3277 Exactly. Ainz is kind of an idiot. He has very little understanding or control of anything happening in his own kingdom. Demiurge in particular, either intentionally or unintentionally, is able to get his way and frame it as Ainz who commanded it.
The other interesting thing about Overlord is that in later seasons, they introduce some situations that question whether the main character is a force of good or not. Throughout the entire show, they constantly remind the viewer that the main character's human emotions are being suppressed due to a quality associated specifically with his monster race. Which makes it hard to determine whether the character's actions are his own or something influenced by outside forces.
The jab at Overlord at the start ruins the credibility for the rest of the video, OP characters open the door to tell stories about how you can't punch your way out of all your problems. Ainz is just a normal dude, not an evil overlord, but he has to act the part lest he lose the faith of his followers which could turn on him. If he had flashed up Sword Art or even better Smartphone or some other kinda dull harem show that just revels in the power fantasy, but to intentionally mispronounce isekai as "ICK" and then bash Overlord? Naw, he's just that kind of UA-camr, he's clearly aware of anime enough to know how to pronounce it, and he's clearly capable of doing a bit of research to pull out the unpopular power fantasy shows from the bottom of the pile, but instead pulls a solid 8 and tries to punch down at it. He's doing it to create drama on purpose because UA-cam encourages "controversial" content, and this is controversial enough without crossing the line that triggers UA-cam's automated systems. Funny to think these threads would be at the top of the list, because of course they would be that's where there's real engagement.
Listen... Stitch... if you compare this to and shitting on Overlord, saying they are similar, I'm going to A-team... Don't you dare repeat this again. Overlord is completely self-aware.
I love the bit of the girls bathroom being impenetrable. Dr.Strange should've put the time stone in there or Wanda would still have a husband if she put vision in there
Jennifer Walters: Snarky, confident, peppy, outspoken and strong-willed She-Hulk: Snarky, confident, peppy, outspoken and strong-willed Great character work!
All I wanna say is that while I understand the Overlord jab, it's still a nice change from every "Hero gets a power and becomes stronger" anime that comes out nowadays (Mostly because they follow the same plot, Hero gets power --> Can't use power ---> Goes to random training area and meets new wacky-zacky friends ---> over time becomes strong and finally turns into a character that stands out from other shows. But it takes so long to reach that final point that often times they scarcely get another season. At least with shows like Overlord and One Punch Man, they shift the perspective from being centered less around the main protagonist as the person you root for, and more around the side characters and their development through the show. Unfortunately, She-Hulk tries a gunky-mix of both and fails horribly. RIP My boy Hulk, you deserved better.
regarding overlord a lot of people have the wrong idea, in the light novel(from which the anime is adapted) there is more things,including dialogue of ainz ecc
It’s pretty *interesting* that after the device that keeps Banner in human form breaks in the car crash, he just decides to not make another one and stays in “Smart” Hulk form. Even if it’s not a social justice device, it’s still horrible writing.
eeh, what's so social justice about Banner staying Hulk? I swear to gods, I dislike the show as much as the next guy, but this comment section looks like a bunch of teenagers looking for an excuse to whinge about feminists.
@@Mish844 its not what, its why. They didnt do it because they thought it made sense for the character, they did it because they needed our female protagonist to save one of the strongest men on the planet.
This whole woke culture is destroying media as a whole. Long gone are the times of ACTUAL good female characters. I knew from the start that a movie called 'she hulk' would punch it down our throats that she of course does everything better and not a single MAN has to save her. Do the writers realize they seem like actual childs when they present stuff like this?
The issue is there are morons who praise this shit and this is what these writers feed off of. And instead of accepting criticism they call every who does, biggots and ignore them. Like they are mentally disable.
Hey now, don't go lumping Overlord alongside she hulk. I haven't seen it, but iseikais are generally good, if that's what you're into. After all, we tend to like anime for.... other reasons.
Okay, 1:05 - About Overlord, if you've at least consumed one of the couple medias that Overlord has, you'd know that Ainz, the Main Character, is Overpowered but comes with some critical and fatal flaws, and these weaknesses can be seen turning against his favor from time to time. Something Captain Marvel could have benefited from. You could have found some better examples. 3:53 - If my memory serves me right, Bruce's blood is very potent, in the original Incredible Hulk when Bruce bleeds into a bottle of soda and even after cleaning it up, doesn't the person who consumed it, instantly die? Some other minor gripes, but overall I agree with most of the arguments presented in this.
Jessica Jones had allot of similar problems that She-Hulk had. She had flaws, but they never became an issue that she had to overcome. For example: she drank like a fish, but it never affected her judgement or job. I honestly had an easier time empathizing with Killgrave than I ever did with Jessica Jones who's character arc always brought her back to where she began at the beginning of a season.
@@toastyanon8902 Exactly. And I believe a lot of that had to do with David Tennant. The moment he showed up its like the production value just shot through the roof. And that was before I got into Doctor Who. I couldn’t finish season 2 cuz it was so boring and uninteresting.
I liked Tim Pool's take...that she appears to be bullshitting about her life in that infamous speech and she's kind of a parody of wokism. Sadly, that was easier to believe from a single episode and what has followed doesn't seem to bear it out. It's obvious that her character arc for the show is SUPPOSED to be coming to terms with Hulkdom and taking responsibility, as the opening speech clearly stated. And in that regard, I appreciate that she has one AT ALL unlike Rey.
The most compelling part about hulks journey, especially through the movies, is his struggle to control his anger, the fear he has about hurting people or becoming a government test subject, his want to kill himself, only for the Hulk to spit the bullet out, and eventual transition into a hero. Not only does She-Hulk not suffer from any of the flaws the Hulk is known for, the writing denigrates the Hulk.
More and more people have noticed quality entertainment have changed quite a lot in recent years. They hired activists not writers, hired activists that think they're "writers." Entertainment have been pushed away in favour of their nonsense. Do they not want quality entertainment? 😂
"because Tony learns from his mistakes" It's great to see a character develope and let their mistakes shape them so they become stronger. But she Hulk is perfect from the beginning, so she can't make mistakes. So her story doesn't develop, she is always the best version of herself without a need for improvement
What I'm getting from this is that Sitch is caught up on the new season of Overlord. I'd rather talk about that tbh, Marvel is worse sludge than most anime. Even in the worst isekai fantasy self insert animes there's some joy to be found. At least there you can see that the author really wanted to make it for the viewers to enjoy, even if it's just fanservice. Here we get appeasement of muh victim complex peddlers.
I do disagree with the Overlord take though. Ainz and Nazarick being overpowered is kinda acknowledged in the universe. Because of that, a lot of the show is more based around diplomacy or them going undercover. I could be wrong though, I may be missing some details.
Ainz actually has flaws which is the difference. He's overpowered for sure but he is always trying to out think everyone who are usually two to three steps ahead of him.
@@loztagain8278 Yeah. There's no tension in the show though because nothing in the new world can challenge him or Nazarick and whenever he messes up it's turned into a greater win.
The irony of Jen complaining about "men mansplaining her own field of expertize" to Bruce that been struggling with the Hulk for years, while she just recently became a hulk. She literally Hulksplained the Hulk to the Hulk, and somehow, this went completely over the heads of the writers.
The fact the term “mansplaining” is a thing explains the never ending line of women following each other off the nearest cliff.
Let's not forget she was likely talking about the opening practice speech scene. Which is still dumb because she is a paralegal which is a lawyer lit edition and after a google search shouldn't be talking during the trial in the first place. So turns out that "toxic" man hade VERY real concerns
Remember that Bruce even attempted suicide multiple times.
I have hope (but not optimism) that she'll learn humility by the end of this season.
basically, you can say she is womansplaining anger. TO THE FRIGGIN HULK.
Id argue this. She-Hulk does have lots of flaws. SHe's impatient, cowardly, self absorbed, narcisistic, violent, and lacks a complete sense of self awareness. She's easily the most flawed character in modern history. The problem is the writers think that those are positives.
Yeah I doubt they'll humble her later on
Should be noted that in the OG Parody Star Treck fanfic the Mary Sue term comes from, Mary Sue herself has flaws. The existence of flaws or not isn't the issue, but if those flaws actually lead to consequences.
Because when they don't, it's clear the fictional universe they live in just bends to their will, and that's what makes a Mary Sue. She-Hulk believes her hardships triumphs that of everyone else around her, so everyone acts like she does.
She’d make for a great villain.
She the hero and ideal of the modern western woman
Well said.
Girl Hulk complaining about cat calling to a man who has literally tried to kill himself, is accidentally the most perfect representation of current year feminism that anyone could possibly have created.
I think the show is a *satire masterpiece.* They are secretly making fun of modern women
Notice how in recent years more and more memes simply manifest into reality, in the same way a Babylon Bee headline is always correct (it's just a matter of time). Current year is a big meme, you either become the joke or laugh at it
@@sparking023 what are you on about?
Honestly still prefer this over the current trans movement
It’s literally how it is in real life with the extremely high male suicide rates and the constant belittling by misandrist
"...show Jen actually struggling and facing some real oppression..."
Problem is, the writers have absolutely no idea what real oppression is. They live in a world of mean tweets.
Agreed. There's no way that Jessica Gao writer has ever been catcalled in her life.
She's literally listing "People are sometimes rude to me in the course of my life" as the reason she's stronger and more seasoned than someone who has actually been on the front lines of a war for YEARS. They honestly believe that catcalling (someone was impolite to me in public!!!!) is true suffering.
@@jacktaryon388 I think it’s more the societal implications, the culture and attitudes towards women that results from this behaviour.
@@eisenhower163 what attitude? You mean the attitude of ‘boobahs are purty’? Or ‘I’m a horny dude and I want some attention and validation from a beautiful woman’? Because that’s all catcalling comes from. Yes, it’s rude. Yes, it’s annoying. But it is not dangerous, nor is it a bad reflection on society, just on the individual men who catcall. Jen hulking out to straight up attack men for just being obnoxious and likely UTI *is* a bad reflection on society, however, because way too many men and women have decided that this is a *good* reaction for a woman to have towards a minor inconvenience. And what, you may ask, gives me the right to say that catcalling is a mere inconvenience? I have the right as well as the expertise to say this because I am a woman, and I have been catcalled. I just move on with my life. As Jen should have, if she really was so good at controlling her emotions.
This comment has been upgraded to legendary status after they revealed the main villain is… Reddit knock off
She's like the female Gaston. The writers forgot Gaston is a bad guy
They know he is...they just model every guy after him so the "strong" woman can overcome him and prove him wrong.
Don't you dare, Gaston is great
Hey at least Gaston can do quality impromptu musical numbers about how terrible he is, he's way more entertaining than this.
We all know gaston is the hero. There is no way a mostrous monarch that kidnaps a man and holds him hostage so his daughter will live with him forever all while ensalving his servants as living furniture for all of eternity is the hero.
What was the worst thing gaston did? Be a narcissist and like a woman for her looks instead of her intelligence. Meanwhile as soon as he finds out bell was kidnapped he immediately goes to take down her captor.
The beast has a room filled with destroyed furniture, which we have long established are alive and used to be people.
@@averagejoe9040 It depend on what show we are talking. Because in the latest Disney version Gaston was a villain, considering how he treated Bell's father.
She outright says she's better than him, something that would outrage women if he had said to her.
It's the sheer hypocrisy that disgusts me.
even better is how all the defenders and fake geeks are screaming "incel!" to silence all opposition and critique of the show.
The hypocrisy is the worst part!
Also the fact that she thinks its criminal for men to objectify her while the show regularly has her objectify Captain America for his physical appearance
The funny thing is, women hate this show more than men do.
@@davfree9732 don’t know about that, unless most men have already had so many sexist feminist shows/movies they’re pretty numb to it while the women are starting to feel the empowering, liberating veneer these shows claim to have peel off before them
I can see most women finding Jennifer as highly insufferable as any straight-forward, chauvinistic, misogynistic dudebro who thinks women are either stupid or gay to not find him attractive. She’s basically that but with extra steps
Bruce is pulling that; “I’m listening, but it’s horseshit, but if I say anything it will make everything worse” face I do it all the time at work.
Bingo.
His facial expressions were pretty damn hilarious in that scene, I love the memes overlaying all his trauma as she blathers on over comparatively NOTHING.
And it was probably unintentional. 😆
I love how the writers have unintentionally made the scene so, that he is actually showing just how full of shit she is, because he is able to take her belittling abuse with a smile and not loose his cool, while she is practically foaming from the mouth.
Thanks for putting it in words!
XD
I've heard it over and over since this abomination of a series dropped but I'm still GOBSMACKED at the of irony in the line "when incompetant men explain to me my area of expertise" while SHE'S EXPLAINING HOW TO BE THE HULK, TO THE HULK.
OMG more eyes on this
LOL good point
Lol, it's so obvious but this is the first I've seen someone bring this up😅
I just realized if she was conscious the whole time that means that she was trying to murder those dudes. And top it off they wasn’t catcalling her they were being friendly
Honestly starting to think the writers were aware of this, but just trying to see how retarded they can be and get away with it. There is absolutely no way they didnt catch that.
In the comics she actually is pretty timid and under confident until she becomes she-hulk
nerd
@@thatonegoblin7051 Bot
“When I’m catcalled in the street.”
“Infinitely more than you!”
Lines of the year 😂
In the original comic, Bruce saves Jen after the car crash.
Of course, a CIS male rescuing a strong female character from anything these days is unacceptable, so they changed it.
Well in the original comic, it was a mob hit because she was prosecuting a mob boss. Then Bruce not only had to save her but fight them off without "hulking out."
I wouldn't have minded if Jen saved Human Bruce if he returned the favor for her. She pulls him out of the car but gets severely wounded. So Bruce does what he can to save her.
I'd love if that was the "real story" of what happened, a 1 to 1 match with the comics, but the show we're watching is Jen spinning a yarn about how she wants her movie to be made. Then we learn at the end of the series that really it was exactly as it happened in the comics.
Not only that, but it was a full on Blood Transfusion from Bruce, not just a couple drops of blood, that turned Jen
Good to know then that whenever i see a female in a precarious situation where i can help, i just wont because that will be very patriarchal of me
Honestly, they really missed a trick. After Jen's monologue about how good she is at controlling her anger, there should be a moment where Bruce calmly and sagely explains all of the things he's been through, the hardships he's faced, and that the fact she thinks that her mundane life experiences make her good at controlling her anger is an insult to the highest degree. He then explains that a normal person would be absolutely incensed at the temerity of her suggestion, but he is not, as he illustrates by returning to normal, because he has learned a degree of control that can only come from extreme situations, which Jen has never even come close to experiencing.
It would be important to keep his tone friendly, but stern. He is the expert here, but he doesn't get frustrated with Jen.
There would be an interesting mirroring in that Jen begins to hulk slightly in her monologue, but Bruce becomes less hulk, subtly signalling that perhaps he is correct.
But that would contradict: *THE MESSAGE*
That would genuinely be a great scene, and if she showed humility after that, it would make us appreciate her more for being humble, and even if she rejected it, it would give her a genuine character flaw to overcome: Pride and Arrogance.
However, the invisible Marvel Rules that a Man must never correct a Woman, prevents this from happening.
@@ShoRyuBarbie The Message is one that needs to die already. Its a stupid one anyway.
Vastly more poignant and thoughtful plot and character arcs written in the UA-cam comments. Now that's funny.
That would've been so cool! I've seen several people give their take on how this scene should've been rewritten for story and character development, but this takes the cake as the best one I've seen yet!
It's also ironic that Jen says that she might get murdered, yet she is the one who almost murdered people who's crime was being obnoxious at worst. So much for controlling her anger "infinitely better" than the guy who's been going through this for over a decade. I thought mental health was important or something.
It's also... kind of depressing... how those women "helped" Jen earlier, because they assumed she was going through domestic abuse, and their "solution" was to erase any and and all evidence of it and do nothing to actually help her or keep her safe.
A little fun fact: That bathroom scene was originally removed as Marvel even admitted it was shit. But the writers caused a big stink and got it put back in for the sake of muh themes.
The article I read said they "fought" for it, like it was some kind of corporate dirty dealings. But come on. These are woke writers here. We all know what probably happened in that board room.
The words I'd use for that scene would be: depressing, stupid, or more accurately, pretty goddamn morbid. So a woman walks into a bathroom, bloodied and dirty. Your first instinct is to cover her in make up, change her clothes, and give her some kind of fucked up pep talk... What was the 'message' here again? Oh, way to dress Jen up like a hooker. Totally appropriate for somebody you suspect to had been a victim of domestic abuse. Really classy, writers. Very cool.
Better yet, why didn't Jen push these people away and say she'd been in accident? You know, like any rational person would do. Oh right, because the writers can't have their characters have any kind of natural reaction to things. It would ruin their 'themes'...
The catcall scene was beyond moronic. Apart from Jen almost killing people over some trashy flirting. Why the hell didn't she remove herself from the situation and go back inside the bar where she'd be safer? More people, more witnesses, and likely more security.
Again, can't have logic get in the way of "themes"...
I would say something about the catcalling itself. But it's so retarded and artificial that it'd be redundant. It's clear that the writers just don't understand how basic social interactions work, much less catcalling.
@@BrokenCornholio1537 I blame the GOP literally meddling in Education all the time since Froever, as "Some More News" pointed out.
If this was marvel netflix they could have had the group of guys be actually fucked up and assault her. But its disney so they can't do that. What is the fucking point of disney plus!?
Jessica jones handled the assault stuff way better. Agent Carter handled the women in a workplace infinitely better.
@@BrokenCornholio1537 You are one of the only people who woke up and chose to speak facts. 💯
@@TheTurbanator123 Exactly!
"I feel like i live in a world made of cardboard. Always taking constant care not to break something, to break *someone,* never allowing myself to lose control, even for a moment, or someone could die."
That is the line said by Superman in the finale of the wonderful JLU animated show. It describes Superman pretty damn well, but i always felt like it describes the Hulk even better, because Bruce Banner, from the beginning, had to fight tooth and nail for every single inch of _actual control,_ and, so very often, him hurting innocent people was out of his hands.
MCU, first with Endgame, and now with this, have essentially made the Hulk into a gimmick.
Superman was from a time were flaws and power was made up wen needed, and even to this day they still trying come up with ways of nerfing him for he was created to powerfull.
Hulk hole thing was the: you can be the strongest mand in the world, but you have no wary littel control over it.
Seeng Hulk gain control over his form in the Marvel movies is really epick as we can see how much his struggle with it. but to remove the control part is just missing the point of Hulk.
Shes just green super girl then... but wose as she steps on such a great character.
This is such a bad joke.
A gimped gimmick....
I love that you used overlord as your example of a power fantasy, where the main character actually not only struggles with keeping up a ruse to avoid everything falling apart, but he is also depicted as the bad guy.
Guy actually practices infront of a mirror to get the impressions right, he's still reading keeping up a facade to appear as the powerful guy but when you read the LN and see his inner thoughts you can tell that he's still not as comfortable in the role of an all powerful leader taking over the world. I love this schism in Overlord.
yes overlord is the worst example,in particular given that the series isn't about the fight(and a lot of fight in the anime are removed or made shorter)is more about world-building ecc
My favorite part of this video is where Sitch said “It’s PSA time!” And Sitch’d all over the screen
Why are people liking this comment
that's the whole video!
Ayo this comment be Morbin.
It was so hot.
So true
I'm genuinely staggered at the complete lack of awareness in the writing team that led them to honestly have, in a single sentence, Jen complaining about "incompetent men in her field saying they know better" while talking to PROFESSOR FUCKING HULK about how she's the best at controlling her emotions.
lol the absolute irony
They're doing a good job at driving the wedge further between the sexes, just what we need these days..
Or just the fact she’s telling a man she controls emotions infinitely more. Excuse me but men are literally raised and told not to show emotion. To “man up” and that “men don’t cry”. It’s literally when men are far less likely to seek help,therapy or even open up to loved ones about feelings because we are raised to view it as a weakness. The show literally just took the mask off of the phase and verbally told everyone what marvel is about this time around.
@@zz3OPEN gender and race. They are doing the same thing in other production companies and if you don’t know the source work you can miss it. Sandman’s adaption I’m Netflix literally replaced 90% of the characters that were white males with either black males or black women. They even changes slight story points to make some of the bad characters they changed to black look like good characters or martyrs. But the despicable really bad people they left white.
@@alpha6games751 or, in the case of Death who was a white woman in the comics with a black woman
"When I'm catcalled in the street"
*Remember her hulking out on and almost killing those guys who had pretty much only catcalled her earlier in the episode*
Gonna have to press X to doubt there, Jenny.
Lmfao this completely slipped my mind.
Well catcalling is not a compliment, it’s a mocking threat.
But the writers really suck. Toxic people come in all shapes and sizes
Claims that she's always in complete control of her emotions as she's constantly losing her temper.
Just like a real woman! A+
@@sourcedasher heh.
At least the original She-Hulk comic had the plot point that Bruce had to give Jen a blood transfusion so that she had a much more understandable reason why she would Hulk out. Also it makes sense why Hulk has the whole rage monster and She-Hulk doesn't, because she doesn't have the amount of trauma that Bruce does (obviously they didn't even try to tackle that in the show)
I like that Jen tells Bruce that she's better at controlling her emotions shortly after she almost MURDERS 2 INNOCENT PEOPLE AS SHE WAS LEAVING THE BAR.
And no, Woke NPCs, being male and trying to speak to a woman does not constitute a crime.
I was puzzled by that scene. For the majority of the interaction, it sounds like the dudes are just making conversation. Or maybe want to help the small, obviously shaken up woman in the mis-matched p1mp jacket.
@@elusivemayfly7534 Or how a group of club-women were promoted as, "A very realistic approach to the sanctuary that is a womans restroom" when they assumed she was beaten by a boyfriend or pimp daddy and how they were going to clean her up and throw her back out on the streets by herself.
Oh, and also that very scene she was complaining about men objectifying herself. "Cue episode 3 credits in which she twerks"
@@elusivemayfly7534
Imagine that scene.
Jen realizing that she nearly killed 2 people that were concerned for her well-being.
That would change her conversation with Bruce a LOT.
@@silenceyouidiot Lol, well-said! They could have actually tried to get her some help. Which actually MIGHT happen in a women’s restroom.
6:32 "She reluctantly agrees to listen to a participant of the lesser gender." Dang, there's so much packed into this one line, well done.
YAS QWEEN
Should have been the "unfairer sex"
The literal twerking with a famous rapper proves just how committed they were to being vapid garbage for boring moms to watch. It's like those channels where you just watch a family live their life.
Now watch Mark Buffoonalo twerk to prove that She-hulk is INFINITELY BETTER.
Is Megan Thee Stallion really famous? I mean, when I heard the name I thought it was a character the writers of the show made up. Because, you know, comedy.
Yeah but All in the Family is starting to look, at least they are self aware enough to know how ridiculous Archie sounds
Bold of you to assume this was written for women who have borne children, rather than millennial cat ladies.
@@Good100 wait this is what that demegraphic wants?
3:48 Wait, so _that's_ how she gets hulk powers in the show? Bruce _happens_ to be wearing some completely unnecessary arm brace that inhibits his hulk powers---just so he's able to bleed 100% pinpoint accurately into her totally _accidental_ open wound? I thought she was supposed to get an actual blood transfusion from Bruce after she was shot like in the comics. Feels so lame and contrived.
Bad writing at its finest
She Hulk is a master class representation of how it feels to be a woman in current year. A never ending bestowment of abilities, opportunities, and shortcuts granted by those who walked the less travelled path and suffered while doing so, coupled with a bottomless spite and ignorance of those who paved said way for them, and an outright dismissal of their suffering as trivial and mindset that however painful it was, their existence as a woman is infinitely worse.
I half expect Marvel to drop a character who references Cap's line about laying down on the wire for the good of the team by saying something so absolutely cringe like "Oh you bled and sacrificed to save the world? I bleed once a month, I have it worse"
Hell you could say that with a lot more than feminism...
Companies have become so nepotistic it's become a mirror of ancient feudal bloodlines. These same kids have no interest in what they've been given because they were never asked what they wanted to do. It then follows the same story of hiring someone who the bosses know vs the person who's best for the job.
"Oh you bled and sacrificed to save the world? I bleed once a month, I have it worse"
lol, accurate
Uhhhh , no this show is totally unrealistic.
Not all women have it like that struggles are stile struggles with either gender I'm pretty sure that people stile don't value women as much for they're actual achievements and skills like Sue storm I know she'll probably be messed up but she had a point about feeling invisible in the Jessica alba FF movie she does legitly have the the same set of skills as Dr Doom and Reed Richards but you never see her proclaimed as a genius.
And it'll probably be considered shallow to you cause ""girls don't struggle" but that's the reason one of my written characters reason for pretending to be a guy I realise I had yet to write or think of some added truama other then being a robot in a position where you have to get people to seriously listen to you because things have clearly gotten better from the sexism front but there's stile discrimination when It comes to regarding the skills that women actually have especially when the womens more soft spoken.
not to be too snarky, but "representation how it feels to be a woman in current year" said by a man has about the same lack of self awareness vibe as Shehulk. Maybe this show is handcrafted for people like you.
When the world needed him the most, he returned.
this is not directed at just you, but man am I tired of seeing this comment on every channel
Again... For the last time Starscream.
@@brightorangepants It's fine, There might be a reason!
@@brightorangepants don't look at comments then, simple
Even E;R is making more videos than him lately. He has to step his game up in the end
They tell us she controls her emotions, yet show us the complete opposite every step of the way
I think it's contradictory on purpose. These sort of things are deliberate exercises in double-think.
Remembers me of Captain Marvel, where everyone tells her to control her emotions, and yet she never shows any emotion.
@@AnimaVox_ when has a feminists writer ever written a compelling story like that? You guys constantly keep giving benefits of the doubt with Disney and time and time again they never exceed expectations when it comes to female protagonist.
@@Evolution-Is-A-Blatant-Lie Disney's been on my blacklist for years, lol. Idk what your comment has to do with me. I'm connecting this show's terrible writing to a concept seen in 1984, because that's what it looks like to me.
@@AnimaVox_ Im betting my car and assets if they can pull it off. Hell, they already contradicted her entire "character" with this after scene garbage in just 3 episodes. Again...when has Disney EVER used reference from the original source material?
She Hulk twerking is Marvel’s jumping the shark moment.
THIS!!!!!!
No they jumped the shark at the end of endgame
@@bluelanternguardianangel8038 no endgame is when they peaked jumping the shark is when you reach maximum ridiculous
@@aawallace98 it was all downhill from there tbh lol
They didn't just jump the shark, they had sex with it, consumed its soul, and did the exact same thing to 10 other sharks.
You can have a near "perfect" protagonist, but you have to make them face adversity. A pious person in a world that constantly challenges their morality, is a good example. That's what Trigun did as a series. You need to find a way for the protagonist to struggle.
That is also what batman is. In the dark knight, the whole struggle is whether batman will have to break his code to be able to stop his adversary.
We also see this in the captain america movies, the struggle is about how the character responds when the world increasingly is against him. We go from seeing him and the US government completely on the same page, and movie by movie see them move further qnd further until they completely flip on him to the point where he becomes an outlaw.
Yes. Ironically, Marvel already did this perfectly with Steve Rogers. Every movie in the Captain America trilogy puts him through the wringer. Every victory comes at enormous personal cost.
It's what makes him an interesting character instead of a preachy entitled asshole.
Shame the She-Hulk writers didn't follow that example.
@@oliviastratton7097 hell, even the hulk, being treated as a glorified side character in the avenger movies had more development than a character leading her own show. in the few lines they gave him you felt the struggle he has gone through yet somehow they couldn't manage it with a main character of an entire season of a show.
Oh my goodness
Someone actually talked about my favorite anime.
Not only that but we also see how he's not as invincible as he seems when we see the many many many scars on his figure hell he's lost an arm over his no killing code most of his battles weren't a breeze he has lost a lot but he persevered and kept his head up.
And all of that even before the story even began
She hulk dose non of this, the least they could have done is reveal her confidence and annoying SAS is just a veneer that she keeps up because she just genuinely wants to be this person in her head but has a hard time doing so. I didn't need a degree in literature to come up with that so how dose a staff of professional writers do worse.
@zephaniahdejene1746 Of course, we see the very visible consequences Vash had to face in Trigun. It is a very important part of showing he isn't just a Mary Sue. He has had tons of loss on all levels of his life.
Jen: fear and anger are, like, the baseline traits of any woman just existing
I hate that this is exactly how woke Twitter users talk, right down to the wording. I've never heard somebody use the phrase "just existing" or "LITERALLY just trying to exist" except for weirdos that use Twitter, TikTok & Tumblr for 6 hours a day.
I always joke that Disney is allergic to humor.
No crass, mean or gross humor, Nothing that can be considered offensive. Only safe jokes (considered safe by modern sensibilities). Even in the stuff meant for the older audience. There's a reason satires have fun dunking on Disney.
i think you mean jokes that china approves of.
marvel makes movie and shows for the whole world not just america, they have different views and beliefs
@@adamsavage2646 the only belief they bow to is the dollar. they don't give a shit about anyone's belief, only which country is going to make them bank.
@@adamsavage2646 As a non american, this show is shit.
"Having Jen show some weakness might just make the audience more sympathetic and root for her."
This right here is a major reason why I consider Mrs. Brisby from Secret of NIMH one of the best written characters in cinema. She's not particularly strong or clever, she's just a normal person (well, mouse) who shows great courage in overcoming her fears so she can save her family, because the responsibility is hers and it needs to be done. She also didn't have the luxury to whine or cry about it (the scene where the shrew scolds her for breaking down), there was literally no time for her to vent any of her emotions. If she didn't have it together, that was it, her children and home were _gone._ It's amazing how much more mature and poignant the writing from a decades-old children's film is than most of the "adult-oriented" entertainment we get today.
W for actually talking about secret of the nimh and how much of a g ms Brisby is I love that movie and it’s message
I seriously cannot believe someone is talking about secret of NIMH In 2022 and I am extremely happy about it. Also YES!
This is just sad.
The "might just litirally get murdered" blew my fucking mind 🤣🤣
Lol, right?! Could have been powerful, though, if the story were following closer to the comics or showing she’d been threatened another way.
Opposed to men, well known for their ability not to be murdered.
Doesn't even make sense, how does she go from being cat called and men explaining things to her to being murdered? Big leap there.
@@cristela4034 Using an extreme, fringe example to try bolster her point. But being in a western country (and probably not a particularly dangerous area of that country, either) I don't think it's realistic, at all. Please tell us how rough you have it as a well-to-do lawyer, of all things (I assume, I haven't watched this nor do I ever intend to). A woman from a broken family who has had to resort to sex work to get by, living in an impoverished, dangerous city and potentially having drug abuse problems too? Maybe then she'd have a point. But I guess that's a reality that doesn't fit their narrative.
It’s confusing because while women are biologically weaker - men are statistically more likely to be assaulted by other men.
She Hulk: *Complains about men explaining her own profession to her
*proceeds to try and school the Hulk on anger management
Overlord is arguably the worst example you could have shown at 1:10. Yes, he isn’t rivaled strength-wise by the inhabitants of the world he is sent to, but the real conflict stems from his relationship with his subordinates. They all expect him to act as some sort of supreme perfect ruler (which is what you were talking about), but he’s just some regular ass guy trying his best not to let his subordinates down, who he basically sees as his friends’ kids. I could go in depth but that’s basically the overview. It’s probably the only isekai type show/LN I enjoy. I promise you that it is actually good.
The writers of a show named "She-hulk attorney at law" have admitted that they don't know law and can't write about law
*LET THAT SINK IN*
And nor did they seek someone experienced with writing Legal Dramas.
*headdesk *
And for a comedy, this show is pretty boring and not funny at all.
they arn't su[er good at the she hulk bit either tbh
Their knowledge is so fucked that a quick Google search shows they had fucked up writing since the very first scene. Jen being a paralegal means she isn't allow to speak on behalf of someone is court. It's basically the law equivalent of a resident for a doctor. They are meant to observe and help with paperwork. So them labeling that guy as toxic is wrong because he literally said everything right.
Also the main bulk of Bruce and Jen's interaction doesn't feel like they are close family members, at all. It felt like they were strangers stuck with each other and Bruce was the only one trying. Also if they went with the comics origin they could have played with blaming Bruce for turning her into she-hulk but they showed us he didn't do it on purpose and didn't even know anything was gonna happen.
In their repurposed origin, hulk is literally the victim of her driving and she is angry at him for *bleeding*
@@Christopher-eq1rn Damn this is supposed to be feminist show but even here women can't drive well
That's something that really bothers me about the rant scene. It's written as though she doesn't know any of his hardships or worse, doesn't care. Given how she's a first cousin, she should be reasonably close with him or at least have a general idea of his life, especially since he's the freaking Hulk and there's gotta be news outlets recording any appearance he makes.
What about the scene of him attacking the city in Age of Ultron? Surely she'd figure he'd have some terrible remorse or even PTSD after being mind-controlled into attacking innocents.
That leaves us with the possibility that she doesn't care, making her a horribly toxic family member who only focuses on "number one" and is unsympathetic to all the trauma of her close family. If anything, this scene should make her closer to a villain, or at least someone who needs some *serious* character development.
Of course, however, the show tries to convince you that she's completely flawless and she's incapable of error, which gives the horrible message that it's okay to belittle the suffering of those close to you to young Marvel fans. It's the same issue with "they'll never know what you sacrificed" and WW84, teaching horrible lessons to our youth to be hateful, impulsive, greedy, arrogant, and selfish and if anyone opposes your actions, they're simply jealous or some form of -ist. It reflects poorly on our generation and worse on the writers.
Sorry for this incredibly long tangent holy cow
Yeah I don't know too much about the comics but from what I understand Jen was kind of a shy girl then when she gets her power becomes confident as she-hulk. In the show from scene 1 she already seems pretty confident and comfortable with herself and what not. It makes her getting powers kinda undeserving in a way. It's like if Peter was a popular cocky rich kid and was blessed with powers he kinda doesn't need. It's sad because with good writing it could've been really good
She got her powers by accident, who said she deserves it or not? the whole point of the show is "if you suddenly got powers, you now have the responsibility to protect those weaker than yourself"
peter is exactly a cocky rich kid and was blessed with powers he kinda doesnt need
@@adamsavage2646 The point of the show is the make Jen look flawless imo everything works out for her. She's a pretty confident successful woman before she gets powers then gets them and it just makes her already good life 10x better. She doesn't struggle with anything then gets these great power
@@adamsavage2646 peter was not cocky or rich before he got his powers. What in the world are you talking about?
@@redram6080 I thought he meant after he got his powers, my mistake
Okay, you don't have to throw shade at Overlord like that, my guy.
"One of those isekai cartoons where the main character is a overpowered loser"
Love how you showed overlord as a example when ainz is the farthest character from a loser being an acting king and all also refusing the advances of multiple women intrested in him
Same. Mentions bad isekai and shows one of the actually good isekai of like 20, _maybe_ in existence.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716
"and mentions one of the good isekai"
Yea having a story about the struggles of a average dude stuck in a role of a undead king is a beyond unique idea
Yet somehow it's just as bad as sao where the main character plot magic revives himself versus heathclip
Dude has not seen ether show to make a judgement of their quality, Stich that being not you
Got a little bit triggered about him showing ainz as a overpowered loser. He should really read the whole novel.
Ok bertha
Think what he meant was an every day loser who becomes overpowered.
And I tried watching this series, wasn't as nearly as interesting as people make it out to be.
The protagonists are just overpowered villains who just can't lose.
That Overlord take is a bit, uh, misinformed.
Ainz is overpowered, yes, but that's like saying One Punch Man sucks because Saitama is overpowered.
THANK YOU!!! someone gets it. :)
Nope, One Punch Man is essentially an over the top comedy. Overlord is a fat ugly loser nerd wish-fulfillment, who is so "bad ass" cuz he's dark and ruthless. One Punch Man is an a-hole too but that's part of the comedy.
Hah overlord kinda died after the 3rd season for me
@@bocchithean-cap3404 it's not like you have seen the 4th season entirely. and, believe me, things change. you can't recycle the same kind of content from season 1 all the time. you need to offer background to prepare the new story arc.
did you saw episode 10? Ains shock at having his trops wiped by a single person almost made him pee himself. and managed to make the guardians believe it was his intention to lose those troops.
I don't want to make too many spoilers but I also find interesting the reaction, and promise, of Ains when the nobles gave him their "gift".
@@WilliamWizer you see it's personal for me he killed one of my early waifus
At least we now know what a Feminist super hero would actually act like. Now imagine that, but without all the Mary Sue stuff and breathe a sigh of relief that there are no super powered feminists out there.
I would have loved to see her struggle with herself.
These aren't writers, they are activists, and destroying wholesome fiction is part of their war on thought crime.
No they’re writers. Bad writers(except Justin Roiland) but writers nonetheless. No activist finds this show endearing or good
@@BBar13 I have to disagree because I know activists that love this nonesense.
They also love all the other Disney Marvel nastiness.
@@Bopperann I feel our definitions of activist are likely different
@@BBar13 you’re talking about activists, he’s talking about champagne activists. People who parrot what is acceptable for street cred but never leave their comfort zones to do anything about it. It’s a shame the bad ones are far louder and far more relevant now to the public consciousness.
God I hate activists and protestors so much
Overlord is supposed to be about an exploration of a fantasy world from the perspective of (who I call) God. A lot of the plot revolves around the way people and monsters interact with Ainz and it has genuinely good writing. Even the slower paced and somewhat lackluster new season pulls off an amazing twist when fighting the platinum knight.
I like how she-hulk got her powers from the *grotesquely muscular* Hulk, but somehow, that translates to her being implied to be stronger than the Hulk, but at the same time somehow her body only becomes moderately more muscular unlike the extremely overmuscled Hulk.
This says a lot about the creators of the show.
1: They decided that giving She-Hulk an amount of muscle more proportionate to her strength was less important than making sure she still appeared attractive.
(They chose Objectification over Realism)
2: By not giving She-Hulk a more appropriate amount of muscle compared to regular hulk, they actually support the idea that men and women have vastly different biologies in key areas, which is a position that people who support the idea of trans athletes would probably take umbrage with.
3: By not giving her a similar amount of muscle to the regular hulk, the creators have put on full display that they believe that men and women deserve to be treated and/or represented in an unbalanced fashion. Big oof.
Look, I get that the original She-hulk didn't have that much muscle either, but If the new creators want to act like they are so woke, they better start freaking trying harder haha.
I love this sort of thing. Its like a novice making suggestions to a pro athlete and being completely right in doing so. Its very funny.
She's better at yoga but weaker.
Girl power, ok? GIRL. MUTHA. FUCKIN. POWER.
In a world filled with darkness, a light shines through the darkness. In that light stands a cartoon figure which is mostly black, which is kind of confusing because it kind of darkens the light. But you kind of want to see where this is going so you walk towards the light anyway. Everything turned out okay in the end and we all went out to have pizza and ice cream.
But Overlord's great, it's completely self-aware as to how much of a blatant power fantasy it is for Ainz. He's so obviously THAT GUY in a tabletop game that brings so much cheese to the table that people become lactose intolerant.
I always assumed that Bruce's dual personalities was a mental condition he had as a person rather than it coming with the powers, seeing as he seems to be the ONLY Hulk with a second personality.
Yeah, apparently the trauma he suffered as a child was what manifested that second personality. So Jennifer Walters has no second personality cause she had a more stable life. Yet, in the show they made it look like she can control her powers better cause she suffered more than Bruce Banner, smh.
@@cristela4034 Bruce has multiple hulks/personalities. Joe Fixit "Grey Hulk", Devil Hulk, Savage Hulk (Classic Green), World War/Worldbreaker hulk. Just thought I'd add some trivia
@@grantchandler13 That's cool! I never really read the comics, but I did heard from comic book readers that the reason he had multiple personalities was cause of trauma.
@@cristela4034 That's correct. His father was an abusive drunk who was jealous of Bruce because he took his wife's attention away from him. He tried to kill Bruce but ended up killing his wife in front of Bruce. He then went to abuse Bruce until his death.
@@cristela4034 Yeah, Jen is *infinitely* more privileged than Bruce even at a very basic level (i.e., she didn't need to watch her dad beat her mom to death when she was a kid) and yet she thinks she's had a harder life than him.
It's like a tasteless meme: a man can be orphaned, experimented on by his own father, made a pariah, hated by the world, and suffer from massive mental illness, lose his two best friends, and then, only then, can he understand the pain of a woman being catcalled.
Ok but In Overlord, yes Ains is the main character but in each arc the plot revolves around different characters and you end up caring about them and praying they don’t cross paths with Ains
plus the problem of ainz are other,like train for seem the best ruler,and being is op result in a lot of misunderstanding and advance of plot,isn't a random things and the show is pretty good because,the stakes are for other character not for them,plus you is entertaing see what they do or know more about nazarick ecc
Buddy.
Before you critique Overlord.
Go read the novel's.
Your welcome greenhorn 👍
Fun fact: She-Hulk did the fourth wall breaking first before Deadpool in the comics.
She did it way better in the comics though. Not a fan of how it's done in the show
I agree with both youre guys points
She talked to the writer, not to the audience. Deadpool talked to the actual audience before she ever did.
None of these guys read Deadpool until they made a movie about him… don’t bother….
@@PretzelSage CEDA Agent? Where you and the National Guard able to get some survivors evac to safety?
It's also funny how the writers also admitted that they wanted to write a court drama about Emil bloomski but it was too hard so they gave up. They're actually incompetent, admit that, but they get to write it because "the right politics". Also yay another sitch video! I guess it's another 3 years before the next one.
The de-hulkerizer gauntlet was an excuse to get Hulk's blood into her system to explain her unwilling hulking
No offense, but Overlord has among the Isekai animes actually an interesting story and the main character does struggle in different ways, even if pure power isn't one of these. So naming that as a power fantasy, well...there would have been better choices.
Demon Slayer is the perfect example of a bad anime ngl
@@PretzelSage I'm confused by Sword Art Online, because so many people say it's good but when I watched it I found out within 3 episodes that Kirito is, in fact, an idiot.
@@Mediados oh absolutely SAO expects you to be like 13
Ikr overlord is one of the best isekai animes
@@Mediados SAO was good for like the first 12 episodes. After that it becomes dogwater. Its literally some guys fantasy who was probably bullied in school
I like how you tried to use isekai's to compare to the power problem. What's wrong is that you used Overlord for that. Yeah he is powerful but he ain't no loser.
yeah
Ainz Owal Goan is anything but a loser. He earned his power through years of playing Yiddrasiel.
Wait wow wait wait, Sitch makes videos? 😯🥳🥰
He only does it to trigger doomer. J/k
Sitch, painting overlord as a stupid power fantasy has put a target on your back. Im coming for you.
As much as I hate to admit it, the isekai comparison is pretty spot on. That said, in terms of naked power fantasy, I think Kirito would’ve been a more apt comparison. At least in Overlord, the author is self aware enough to admit Momonga is an overpowered loser and the joke is he has no idea what he’s doing.
I find it hilarious that they legit flipped the entire origin story around.
"A random cleavage character *busts* through a wall" is such a perfect line, well done Sitch.
you know its bad when sitch has to come out of retirement to dissect it
Whats funny to me is if you watch any reviews of this show, the reviewer's mind is struggling with how to make the show not suck. Because its not a bad premise. In fact I think it could be a great premise for a superhero to want to focus on their profession that they dedicated their life to, rather than superhero antics, but struggle with the feeling of duty and obligation they feel given their unique circumstance.
Instead we get she-hulk twerking.
Is shehulk so bad... it finally made Sitch do videos again?
It was like Biden and the "very fine people" line -- it brought the reluctant hero out of retirement to kick ass again!
@@justinhart2831 cringe
@@BlueGamingRage for the record, I was sarcastic about the biden thing.
I think something of interest here is the sheer difference in times these two characters gained their powers in. Bruce gained hulk powers long before defending Earth was even an objective. He was hounded for his senseless destruction just so he could be a weapon of the state against other nations. On the flipside, She Hulk gains her powers when "being a superhero" is an actual job description. She doesn't have to hide like Hulk does and I think this dichotomy could have been used well. Something to give her appreciation and something to help heal Bruce's broken heart.
That is interesting I never thought of it like that.
Such an intention was definitely not in the show writer’s mind.
Banner tried to kill himself by putting a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. The HULK spits out the bullet. HULK TRANSFORMATION IS INSTANTANEOUS. Banner said that in the movie. How did he stay human when the car started rolling downhill??????
They explained it. It’s because of the weird wristband that he invented somehow and was for some reason using even though he doesn’t need to
@@kirayoshikage1491 ….ahhhhhh, plot armor!! 😂😂
@@du-me-Utube-1975 exactly
Wait, did I wake up in an alternate universe where Sitch makes videos?
PSA Sitch ... now that is a name I havent heard for a long time...
Unrelated, but the little jab at Overlord kinda misses the point (at least where the novels are concerned). The series focus heavily on world-building and character interactions, and the MC being overpowered isn't treated as a power fantasy but more as a tremendous force that the side characters have to maneuver around or confront. The heavy usage of viewpoint switching also amplifies the ironic comedy and dramatic elements.
To add. Ainz actually does have a flaw. Intelligence. The dude almost entirely has to piggyback off demiurge and his intellect. Albedo too to an extent is smarter than Ainz. Ainz only has working knowledge of game mechanics and his npcs strengths and weaknesses from the game, which he has to confront in season 1 with Shalltears mind control.
@@meh3277 Exactly. Ainz is kind of an idiot. He has very little understanding or control of anything happening in his own kingdom. Demiurge in particular, either intentionally or unintentionally, is able to get his way and frame it as Ainz who commanded it.
The other interesting thing about Overlord is that in later seasons, they introduce some situations that question whether the main character is a force of good or not. Throughout the entire show, they constantly remind the viewer that the main character's human emotions are being suppressed due to a quality associated specifically with his monster race. Which makes it hard to determine whether the character's actions are his own or something influenced by outside forces.
The jab at Overlord at the start ruins the credibility for the rest of the video, OP characters open the door to tell stories about how you can't punch your way out of all your problems. Ainz is just a normal dude, not an evil overlord, but he has to act the part lest he lose the faith of his followers which could turn on him. If he had flashed up Sword Art or even better Smartphone or some other kinda dull harem show that just revels in the power fantasy, but to intentionally mispronounce isekai as "ICK" and then bash Overlord?
Naw, he's just that kind of UA-camr, he's clearly aware of anime enough to know how to pronounce it, and he's clearly capable of doing a bit of research to pull out the unpopular power fantasy shows from the bottom of the pile, but instead pulls a solid 8 and tries to punch down at it. He's doing it to create drama on purpose because UA-cam encourages "controversial" content, and this is controversial enough without crossing the line that triggers UA-cam's automated systems. Funny to think these threads would be at the top of the list, because of course they would be that's where there's real engagement.
On the Deadpool topic it's one of his powers, hyper awareness he is so aware he is a comic book character he can break the 4th wall.
Listen... Stitch... if you compare this to and shitting on Overlord, saying they are similar, I'm going to A-team... Don't you dare repeat this again. Overlord is completely self-aware.
I love the bit of the girls bathroom being impenetrable. Dr.Strange should've put the time stone in there or Wanda would still have a husband if she put vision in there
Sitch you better make an Overlord video with how much u jabbing at it this disrespectfully
It broke new ground!
The ground where I slammed my head cause Marvel massacred my two favorite green characters for doses of cringe and agenda reasons.
Bro you did a Futurama AND an Overlord reference? YOU SIR have earned a Sub and Like! 👍
Jennifer Walters: Snarky, confident, peppy, outspoken and strong-willed
She-Hulk: Snarky, confident, peppy, outspoken and strong-willed
Great character work!
"im infinitely better at controlling my rage than you" she says visibly angry
A new video from Sitch? I must be dreaming! She hulk being a garbage show was completely worth it now.
IKR? Sitch videos are so rare these days that it had to be announced on their streaming channel first.
How dare you compare this to Overlord
All I wanna say is that while I understand the Overlord jab, it's still a nice change from every "Hero gets a power and becomes stronger" anime that comes out nowadays (Mostly because they follow the same plot, Hero gets power --> Can't use power ---> Goes to random training area and meets new wacky-zacky friends ---> over time becomes strong and finally turns into a character that stands out from other shows. But it takes so long to reach that final point that often times they scarcely get another season.
At least with shows like Overlord and One Punch Man, they shift the perspective from being centered less around the main protagonist as the person you root for, and more around the side characters and their development through the show.
Unfortunately, She-Hulk tries a gunky-mix of both and fails horribly. RIP My boy Hulk, you deserved better.
regarding overlord a lot of people have the wrong idea, in the light novel(from which the anime is adapted) there is more things,including dialogue of ainz ecc
It’s pretty *interesting* that after the device that keeps Banner in human form breaks in the car crash, he just decides to not make another one and stays in “Smart” Hulk form. Even if it’s not a social justice device, it’s still horrible writing.
It’s not a social justice device. It’s just horrible writing
It was dumb in the movie it’s dumb now.
That whole "almost getting killed" thing probably convinced him it was a bad idea.
eeh, what's so social justice about Banner staying Hulk? I swear to gods, I dislike the show as much as the next guy, but this comment section looks like a bunch of teenagers looking for an excuse to whinge about feminists.
@@Mish844 its not what, its why. They didnt do it because they thought it made sense for the character, they did it because they needed our female protagonist to save one of the strongest men on the planet.
This whole woke culture is destroying media as a whole. Long gone are the times of ACTUAL good female characters. I knew from the start that a movie called 'she hulk' would punch it down our throats that she of course does everything better and not a single MAN has to save her. Do the writers realize they seem like actual childs when they present stuff like this?
The issue is there are morons who praise this shit and this is what these writers feed off of. And instead of accepting criticism they call every who does, biggots and ignore them. Like they are mentally disable.
I'm 90% certain most of the She-Hulk is written using AI with a "Comedic voice" tickbox checked.
Hey now, don't go lumping Overlord alongside she hulk. I haven't seen it, but iseikais are generally good, if that's what you're into. After all, we tend to like anime for.... other reasons.
Okay,
1:05 - About Overlord, if you've at least consumed one of the couple medias that Overlord has, you'd know that Ainz, the Main Character, is Overpowered but comes with some critical and fatal flaws, and these weaknesses can be seen turning against his favor from time to time. Something Captain Marvel could have benefited from. You could have found some better examples.
3:53 - If my memory serves me right, Bruce's blood is very potent, in the original Incredible Hulk when Bruce bleeds into a bottle of soda and even after cleaning it up, doesn't the person who consumed it, instantly die?
Some other minor gripes, but overall I agree with most of the arguments presented in this.
Those flaws kinda seem very superficial, since I'm the long run, he always ends up on the winning side.
Pardon my ignorance but how is practically zero struggle a fatal flaw?
What's sad is they've done a really pretty good job before with a female led show before with the first season of Jessica Jones.
But that was under Netflix. Where they took their time to write a good character.Where as the MSheU just destroys everything they touched.
Jessica Jones had allot of similar problems that She-Hulk had. She had flaws, but they never became an issue that she had to overcome. For example: she drank like a fish, but it never affected her judgement or job. I honestly had an easier time empathizing with Killgrave than I ever did with Jessica Jones who's character arc always brought her back to where she began at the beginning of a season.
@@OmegaZyion Killgrave made that show for me. Him and Jessica shared such a fascinating relationship - once that balance ended I lost interest
@@toastyanon8902 Exactly. And I believe a lot
of that had to do with David Tennant. The moment he showed up its like the production value just shot through the roof. And that was before I got into Doctor Who. I couldn’t finish season 2 cuz it was so boring and uninteresting.
@@OmegaZyion yeah but those problems are more related to typical problems with writting and less about putting politics first.
Very informative, it feels like I understand the 2008 housing crash like the back of my hand. Keep it up Stitch!
What!? Both E;R and Sitch have published video essays recently!? This is definitely the Year of the People of Shadow.
I had the like button pressed until he compared She-Hulk to Overlord
The blender voice line is hilarious, Futurama was so ahead of its time it predicted this show :)
He's back in our hour of need!
I can't believe sitch decided to upload on his second channel, alright see you guys in 5 years.
I liked Tim Pool's take...that she appears to be bullshitting about her life in that infamous speech and she's kind of a parody of wokism. Sadly, that was easier to believe from a single episode and what has followed doesn't seem to bear it out.
It's obvious that her character arc for the show is SUPPOSED to be coming to terms with Hulkdom and taking responsibility, as the opening speech clearly stated. And in that regard, I appreciate that she has one AT ALL unlike Rey.
The most compelling part about hulks journey, especially through the movies, is his struggle to control his anger, the fear he has about hurting people or becoming a government test subject, his want to kill himself, only for the Hulk to spit the bullet out, and eventual transition into a hero.
Not only does She-Hulk not suffer from any of the flaws the Hulk is known for, the writing denigrates the Hulk.
More and more people have noticed quality entertainment have changed quite a lot in recent years. They hired activists not writers, hired activists that think they're "writers." Entertainment have been pushed away in favour of their nonsense. Do they not want quality entertainment? 😂
Dang I missed you man. Thanks for coming back!
Wait most isekai protagonist start off with no power. What's your point.
A new Sitch video? Did hell just freeze?
I mean I did just feel a slight chill
"because Tony learns from his mistakes"
It's great to see a character develope and let their mistakes shape them so they become stronger.
But she Hulk is perfect from the beginning, so she can't make mistakes. So her story doesn't develop, she is always the best version of herself without a need for improvement
What I'm getting from this is that Sitch is caught up on the new season of Overlord. I'd rather talk about that tbh, Marvel is worse sludge than most anime. Even in the worst isekai fantasy self insert animes there's some joy to be found. At least there you can see that the author really wanted to make it for the viewers to enjoy, even if it's just fanservice. Here we get appeasement of muh victim complex peddlers.
I do disagree with the Overlord take though. Ainz and Nazarick being overpowered is kinda acknowledged in the universe. Because of that, a lot of the show is more based around diplomacy or them going undercover. I could be wrong though, I may be missing some details.
Ainz actually has flaws which is the difference. He's overpowered for sure but he is always trying to out think everyone who are usually two to three steps ahead of him.
The humor of the show comes from him being unjustly overpowered rather than just being a fantasy
I mindlessly watched Overlord, and don't remember it very well. Isn't he looking for other "players" ?
@@loztagain8278 Yeah. There's no tension in the show though because nothing in the new world can challenge him or Nazarick and whenever he messes up it's turned into a greater win.
@@TheBardorp That's the joke. It's a literal Farce.