Like imagine a freaking group of Samurai charging a Predator group with the climax being shooting fireworks at them or something. Like who wouldn’t watch that
That would lose novelty really fast when it becomes "Alien species with the technology for spaceflight that lives to hunt keeps getting their asses kicked by pre-industrial humans." It makes me think of RLM's points about Star Trek TNG; when they wanted to bring in a strong alien to prove how powerful it was, they had it fight against Worf and win. The only issue is that they did it so often that it actually just made Worf look weak.
It was actually a CG face replacement with the revenant bear over a stunt bear actor’s head in this film. Insurance wouldn’t let him get his paws dirty now that he’s a huge star.
Nope.. They go to pick this predator back up.. Find him dead so watch his recordings.. See her kill him and then hunt her down and slaughter her and likely anyone else in the tribe who so much as glances on their direction. It's the only way that makes sense.
I can imagine that. A sort of red dead redemption except it's the predator killing everything in sight with the preternatural ability to skin all once living things in seconds... And dies at the end after slipping and falling off a ten foot ledge That would be sweet
Say what you will, but that transition from Russian to English in Red October around the word "Armageddon" (which is the same in both languages) is smooooooth. That's like the gold standard for getting around the so-called translation convention movies "have" to have.
The same director did the same trick in the movie they quoted at the beginning, The 13th Warrior! Where Banderas slowly learn the native Norse language by listening to them through their travels, great stuff. John McTiernan was top tier director!
Honestly, it was the main characters in the first and second movies using their brains that helped them ultimately overcome the Predator. The reason everyone else dies typically is because you can't just brute force your way through it. Arnold gets his arse kicked until he can use a trap finally at the end. So if the main character uses their brains to ultimately succeed, then it fits the theme?
It does fit the theme, though arnold having to go back to primitive tools had a much greater effect in the first movie. Its like, they tried fighting them with all our modern tools, but what was actually needed was to know your enemy and use strategy. There's a progression there. If you just start primitive, and stay primitive its less interesting. The choice to make the protagonist as skilled as they did also seems like a mistake imo, but b/c they went with the "past" setting they kind of had to in order to make it at all believable. And for a while, the protagonist in horror movies that killed the monster was usually a woman. They didn't start them off skilled most of the time, because it was a more entertaining to see them overcome the odds that way, BUT because they weren't set in the past, they had more tools to work with. Ripley shot an alien out of an airlock, used a flame thrower to hold alien eggs hostage, used a walker to fight the queen head on. Sara conner used a metal press iirc to kill the terminator, and shotguns maybe I don't remember. I think freddie was killed with wierd dream magic or something. I think jason could have been killed by primitive tools, but I think he was just killed in simple ways in most of the friday the 13th movies too. Tbh though I don't think anyone working on a predator sequel is going to be able to make a good movie no matter what at this point. Whatever the reason, not a single predator movie has felt good since the second one. Predators came close for me, but still felt like a mess. I think its because they stopped trying to make a good movie, and kept trying to make "another predator", but who knows what goes on behind the scenes. tl;dr: A female protagonist could have fit right in with the predator movies, but they were forced to write an unsatisfying character by setting the film in the past, but they'd probably make a terrible movie either way, so whatever.
@@prw56 How does having the story set in past make for an unsatisfying main character? I thought Prey was fantastic not only as a Predator movie but also as an historical period piece. The attention to detail for historical accuracy was very, very good (I looked it up to see). As were the spectacular landscape shots. Watching the Comanche dubbed version made the immersion even better for me as well. I thought Naru had a good arc too; from being unsure of herself at first, using her tracking and medicinal skills, always observing and learning from others and her surroundings, and then overcoming adversity to become a capable survivor by the end. All while fighting against the social pressures on her to keep within traditional gender norms. It’s an arc that’s been done before sure but it was portrayed pretty well and in a novel setting. Granted they probably could have had her fail a bit more to have made it more realistic. I’m not gonna complain too much though as this is still the best Predator film we’ve had since the first one imo (Predators wasn’t bad). Also she didn’t just go from “primitive to primitive” weapons. She did the inverse of Dutch by starting off with axes, knives & arrows, then learning to use the flintlock pistol, then finally figuring out the alien targeting visor to use the Predator’s own guided bolts against itself.
Since you brought it up, I think that the 13th warrior did a great job of transitioning through languages. When Antonio Banderas’ character is first with the Vikings they’re all speaking Norse. Then Banderas’ character travels with the northmen. It shows, over a long period of time, that he slowly learns/picks up the language going from Norse to English. Then the language is changed to 100% English. I always thought it was a clever idea.
I agree. Instead of transitioning straight to English it does so gradually, showing him learning slowly, picking up a word here and there and mixing in English with the Norse until he becomes conversant in Norse.
Hopefully the next Predator movie will be set 1000 years in the future where technology is so advanced, the predator drop ship will get shot down before it gets anywhere near earth.
How bout a special military or corporate unit of humans that hunt predators in the future? Or futuristic bounty hunters that get tricked into hunting a predator by some rich dude. I think there would be a lot of potential for a fully sci-fi Predator movie.
@@P3t3rminator I always liked the “realistic” tech vs Predators over it becoming too Sci-Fi. Predator 2 balanced this well with the OWLF guys using suits and rudimentary prototype stuff
@@thermonuclear8335 I know what you mean, but if the franchise just starts to branch out throughout history they should maybe also explore a more futuristic setting.
I don't know why, but I like the role-reversal way more than I should. Seeing (Rich Evan's version of) Plinkett thriving in the VCR shop is just so oddly wholesome, it reinvigorated him and I love it.
I actually once saw a fan film called Predator: Dark Ages about a group of knights fighting a predator, and I know there was a comic that took place in feudal Japan too. Personally I love the concept of just the Predator through the ages
Seriously. Just follow the Assassin's Creed structure, without the need for even a connecting thread to the current day. Predator is one of the few properties that can make that kind of history-hopping make sense without breaking a sweat. Plus the Preds' tech and armor can evolve/devolve based on the time period, so that's an added layer of uniqueness for each movie. Shit, for more modern time periods you can have a 2-3 man Predator team where each member specializes in different types of combat. Lotta easy ways to keep the franchise fresh.
@@ashb7 I think in the samurai comic it suggests that the predator uses different weapons/tools based off what their prey has access too. I think it was mainly to get a predator dressed in samurai armor with a katana but honestly a samurai predator looks so cool I’m for it.
..... is a masterclass in "I was the original James Bond, of course I'm not going to learn a new accent!!" laziness. (Yes yes I know that squirrelly looking guy was technically the first JB I mean the first "real" one)
Turns out they were playing the long game with us, because Mike will start to assume the identity of Mr. Plinkett after getting severe dementia and believing that he lives at that house and the mail is addressed to him, and Mr. Plinkett will start going by his first and middle name, Rich Evans, which will tie all the RLM lore together because the new Mr. Plinkett will discover the old Mr. Plinkett’s Phantom Menace VHS tapes and then begin a long rambling dissertation broadcast to his web zone using technology from the early 2000s to edit it, and in the Half in the Bag finale it will be revealed that the entire series was a prequel to the Star Wars prequel reviews being a clever meta-commentary on the idea of a prequel as an homage to their favorite film of recent history Matrix Resurrections, and in the process fixing many of the plot holess in the Red Letter Media cinematic universe timeline, which is actually a clever metaphor lampooning Hollywood’s over-reliance on interconnected cross-media franchises.
It would also prove to be a clever meta commentary on one of the key themes of the Prequel reviews- In order to talk about Star Wars in excruciating detail nonstop for hours. You'd need to be a psychopath.
16:26 In 2006, "Apocalypto" managed to pull off a feature entirely shot in an indigenous people's language that turned a healthy RoI, and that was without franchise brand recognition. It seems like they could have made it work. Now I'm picturing the end of "Apocalypto" with Predator ships instead of Spanish ships...
I think Mel Gibson barely pulled it off. It was critiqued for blending Aztec and Mayan cultures, and I think that was his last movie before his drunken tirade. Overall I agree though: it's easily the best mainstream portrayal of an indigenous American culture.
Q : How do you make sure Native American software keeps running properly? A : With Apache !! Aztec goes, it's the highest! (Not funny, huh? Maya sense of humor stinks? So Sioux me... A Chickasaw this joke and she laughed out loud, so I think I'm doing fine.)
The pistol was referenced in a darkhorse comic in the 80s or 90s. Pirates had turned on their somewhat honorable captain "Raphael Adolini" off the coast of Guinea after they raid a church. In the comic it was an entire crew of muntinous pirates chasing the Captain around while the Predator observed. The Predator observes the personal honor code of Raphael Adolini and the Predator and captain eventually fight together. The captain gets killed fighting alongside the Predator and the captain in a last gesture gives his pistol to the Predator. The Predator then tracks down and kills the rest of the pirates. Not saying they should make this because now they can't, but Predators and Pirates may be interesting. Historically 1715 to 1726 is considered the "Golden Age" of piracy.
My only non-nitpick issue with the movie was that pistol. It's implied that Predators come back and take the pistol by some means. And I have hard time figuring out how the pistol ends in Predator hands without breaking some sort of continuity. Either the Predators of Old were vindictive and not about honoring winner, and took revenge of their lost kinsman. Or there's gonna be something where Predators (since there was more than one ship landing in that pic) and Comanche have to team up for something even more dangerous. Either way this sounds like it's going against what is -- at least in my head -- the motivation and character of these Predators. (Mind you, I only count first two movies to be canon, with AvP being conceptually fun what if scenario, even if execution left lot to desire.) I would have much rather seen universe of Predator movies where we see their visits in our past. See some Edo period Samurai take them on. See Predators vs Pirates. Some Viking v Predator action. etc. And some of them would end Predator winning, some would end Predator losing, some would explain stuff like Tunguska explosion event as Predator losing and activating that nuke they carry. Etc. Something where people going in don't know who is gonna come out of top, but knowing that they'll be entertained by the fight.
Predator, Red October AND 13th Warrior were all directed by John McTiernan. I actually really liked the way Red October and 13th Warrior tackled their "translation" by zooming in on the actor speaking in one language and zooming out when they begin to speak in English.
@@captinundies6049 right! It's been years since I've seen it so I was a little fuzzy on that part. That movie got slagged a lot (especially by Omar Sharif) but I really dug it. Those vikings kicked all kindsa ass.
I also like you like how it is done in Red October the transition is done on the word Armageddon. Which is what Red October is designed to do. And also the word Armageddon is the same in Russian and English.
I just watched The 13th Warrior and actually really liked it. It's not even close to being as good as the novel, which is excellent, but I was kind of surprised I enjoyed it so much.
Predator on bikini bottom, Flippy Crabby patties Or Predator hunting down A prey on a theater…in the 1880’s and the prey is…President Lincoln Vampire Hunter.
So many people just don't understand the first Predator movie. It's super over the top 80's action stars (rippling muscles, huge guns and machismo) going in all guns blazing... and then getting picked off one by one by an enemy they can't see, they can't intimidate and they have practically no ability to beat. Predator is almost Lovecraftian. It shows that man, for all his perceived strength and power, is a helpless bug waiting to be squashed by this extraterrestrial force they can barely comprehend. They don't even really know why it's killing them. It's assumed it's hunting them for sport, but truly, it's purpose is unknown. It's just a killing machine.
One thing that I've never seen anyone mention is how every Predator seems to end up getting killed all because they can't handle their addiction problem. Why do they always stick around Earth for so long? In the first movie the Predator skins something like 7 people, then slaughters 10 more (don't check my math on this please, because it's probably wrong), and at that point you'd think he'd have enough spines and skulls to take home, but he keeps going after bigger and bigger animals to get better and better trophies (Schwarzenegger's "Dutch" being the best human prize possible). It's like gambling addicts. They'll win big at the casino but not stop at that big win. Instead they keep going after bigger and bigger wins until finally they lose it all, and end up getting their knees broken by some mafia guy they borrowed too much money from. It's the one character flaw in every Predator we've seen. If they would just kill, like, three humans and a bear and then fly home, they'd be livin' the good life back on their own planet with some cool alien bones to show to their grandPredatorchildren. Everything in moderation, that's the key to a healthy lifestyle.
It's also well established that they eat meat. So, it could be cultural. What the predators actually do and why is not established at all other than what you see. What we can't see or what may not be as obvious is that perhaps they MUST earn their meals in combat with the most dangerous food source they encounter. Perhaps their status is based not just on the most unusual trophies but on the volume of them. Perhaps they have a religious obligation to remove the alphas from every species who may one day become a threat to their own and that's why they travel the galaxy. Maybe some novels or comics delve into this further so I could be way off but it's plausible they have their reasons. Most hunting cultures have a lot of mythos and ritual around their hunting. IT doesn't seem like they're just alien doctors and lawyers on big game hunting safaris.
Cause when it literally takes "light years" to travel to your destination then your going to get all you can in the amount of time you have till your universal taxi shows up. Bigger trophies equal to bigger bragging rights for better positioning in the predator ranks.
Here to watch this again so the RLM crew gets that sweet UA-cam money so Rich Evans and Mike Stoklasa can afford their diabetes and dementia treatments respectively.
This series has gotten so fucking ridiculous but this latest entry is the final straw, mike owning an iphone 13 Max is completely out of character for him, his printer paper boomer energy has been completely pushed aside to appease a modern audience.
Huh, I've been listening to the audio while working on stuff, and didn't really notice until seeing them both in the same spot. 34:30 Mike looks like a kid next to Jay. He could basically sit on his lap and tell Jay what he wants for Christmas.
I watched this with my girlfriend who had never heard of it and told her it was a movie about a Native American tribe. Her face when the predator rocks up was absolutely priceless.
@@chrisprattsabs1543 thats how they were gonna release the movie first, market it as a Native American rites of passage movie without mentioning anything then boom, the twist is it's a Predator movie and you find out as you're watching it in theatres. Unfortunately it leaked very early that its a Predator movie so they couldn't hide it. Would have been awesome to watch it in theatres not knowing
I also liked how the Predator had rules He only used his stabby claws for the snake, wolf, lion and bear When people started shooting arrows at him he used his arrow launcher When he got attacked with spears he busted out his spear When the French trappers netted him he used nets Once the gunpowder muskets were out he had his little shield and was just sick of everyone and bombed the place.
That's a good point. However, he did activate his cloak in a fist fight when he was struggling to beat the brother. The guy has rules, but he's kind of a punk too.
@@peacemaster8117 I'd love to know the Predator hunting commission rules on cloaking devices It is definitely the most unfair thing that is used the most frequently
@@peacemaster8117 Predators are kinda punks in general. If you ever beat one their go-to tactic is usually nuking the whole area. Talk about sore losers.
If the yautja only use equivalent weaponry, I guess any form of camo constitutes the use of cloaking device? "That guy's in brown leathers, and it is pretty muddy here. Best go invisible."
yup. its all about honor killing with the predator. We dont stand a chance otherwise, they literally have missiles on the ship, this is just for their "personal growth hunting trip" lol
What Mike was saying about the brother taking credit for the lion did happen, as Naru falls from the tree, she sticks the lion in the side with her spear, Taabe admits later that she weakened it enough that it was easy to bring home.
There was supposed to be a movie called ‘Pride and Predator’ with an alien menace setting down in Jane Austin’s Regency England and causing mayhem. It doesn’t seem to have ever been made though. This would totally be an awesome setting for a real Predator movie!
13:25 I moved to my dad’s reservation in 7th grade and I remember laughing at the morning announcements because of all the funny native names. “Wooden Legs”, “white man runs him”, “pretty man” and other names I had never heard before.
It wasn't the first time this was done to at least some length of degree. In the early 1980s there was one of the greatest mini-series "Shogun" that had a lot of dialogue in Japanese with very little subtitles. In much of the movie you had to interpret what was going on through how the English characters reacted who also many times didn't know what was said.
The hovercraft he's using is actually the hoverboard from Back to the Future Part II, it's implied the Predator murdered Marty McFly and took it from him as a trophy.
I read a book of Predator short stories a while back that had some interesting historical settings for a Predator story. One was during the Civil War, another was in the late Tokugawa shogunate. Both were well thought-out takes on how the people of those times/places would deal with something like a Predator (the Japanese in the second story, for instance, called it "The Oni of the Three Sparks")
The important thing to remember is that the Predators give their prey a sporting chance since they are actually trying to enjoy the hunt. They're not space dentists looking to shoot famous movie animals from a safe distance. There really needs to be a series where the predator actually wins and then goes on to hunt new and interesting quarry. Just an episodic set of adventures where humans aren't the only prey. It could go from hunting strange and horrifying beasts to assassinating a high-value target simply because it is a challenging task.
they are also, and this is the critical aspect of their characterization that only Predator, Predators, and Prey have captured, just *awful* fucking pricks the Predator takes off his gun to fight Dutch not because it's the 'honorable' thing to do, but because shooting a naked monkey dead isn't going to be any fun. he did not fly however many light years and spend however many space bucks just to unload an assault rifle into a side of beef. he could have done that at home.
And then the Predator goes to his home planet to his wife Predator whos cooking and cleaning the Predator house in an apron and he says "Honey im home and i brought dinner"👍
I really like Mike's idea for the climax. It shows that women can be strong in different ways and supports the idea that native people build strong communities which is where their strength truly lies, rather than the ferocity of individual warriors within those tribes.
Also we've never really seen a group of people succeeding over a predator (which would be much more realistic), in the end it was always individuals who defeated it.
28:46, One correction for this review is that the Predator didn't ignore the main character in the climax because he recognized the "predator-prey" dichotomy taking place with the fur trapper. But rather, because she took the herb that made her thermally invisible to the Predator. The Predator simply did not know she was there, nor did she ever figure out what his purpose was on the planet
That scene made me realize how much of a disadvantage the Predator has fully relying on thermal vision. Having her step aside like that just as it walked towards her was a bit too much. That negatively affected my suspension of disbelief and made me think the predators would be smart enough to develop and install motion detection on their helmets too.
@@Loop-flow They would but real talk these are space faring aliens...if they wanted to go all out they could encircle the outskirts of London or Paris and murder everyone in those cities armies and all in a tightening circle of kills within hours. They purposely limit themselves to some degree for sport. Hence why the Predator hand to hand fought everyone (and every animal) that chose that style and got the bites and stab wounds that could have been avoided with long range fire if simply killing was what they were after.
@@dampestfrog No she wasn't if you watched the film, she hardly made the mark as a Mary Sue. The scene where it was her and her brother taking down that, hawk, she didn't. When hunting that lion, she got knocked out despite wounding it. A Mary Sue would have h Killed it in one's shot You failed at proving she was a Mary Sue.
@@charlottecorday8494 what r u even talking about white woman im Lakota, and Souix is just another name given to Lakota Dakota and Nakota Groups from the Anishhibee tribe told the Europeans that were named Souix witch in their language was snake cause we were at war with one another so it stuck around as Europeans used it. the fuk r u talking about thoo lmao Wasichu
This is what the series SHOULD have been, an anthology series where each movie takes place in a different place and time (samurai, vikings, pirates, etc)
Instead of a direct sequel, I would love an anthology series of Predator movies in different time periods. Predator in the trenches of WW1, Predator in the Vietnam War, etc…
I doubt the trenches of northern France would work for a Predator. The Ottoman and Romanian fronts might be a bit more suited in terms of climate. Remember that the hunts take place during hot summers. I'd like to see a hunt during some African war, maybe Angola. Have some Cuban soldier who has extended family from Guatemala who might've personally seen the results of a hunt and been told stories about it. A hunt during the Crusades might be interesting, with crusaders and Saracens teaming up to survive.
This is what the people want, this is what the people need. Somebody get hollywood superstar Rich Evans to talk to the execs at Twentieth Century and make it happen.
Did anyone notice this Predator scans the tribes weapons & adjusts his accordingly?? There’s a part where he locks on & scans a the tip of spear to analyze it, then immediately after his shoulder cannon fires tiny arrows. It’s not like this alien species that has mastered Interstellar space travel & cloaking devices hasn’t invented the plasma cannon yet. I thought that was a neat touch.
It's funny they mentioned the good things that worked in McTiernan films (Red October, Predator) but then unknowingly mention Antonio Banderas being cast in 13th Warrior, which happens to also be a McTiernan film. It appears McTiernan is the key to everything.
It’s been a few years since I’ve seen it but Mel Gibson (love him or hate him) made Apocalyptico.. now imagine that movie, which from what I remember had no one speaking English and was shot gritty, throw in a predator. That sounds like a fun time.
Yes, every line was in spoken in Maya by people with Mayan ancestry, and movie is called Apocalypto. I like to think the movie depicts what's going on in Gibson's mind all the time.
@@maintaint3003 Yucatec Maya, it's a dialect, not exactly The Mayan language. One of ... 30 or something branches at that. But the effort was appreciated.
That would diminish Apocolypto for what it is. It didn’t NEED supernatural shit like a predator, the culture was already alien as hell. And it actually existed, and thrived.
In “Predator,” the predator does a lot of tree hopping but only while cloaked. I always wondered what it would look like to see a gigantic uncloaked predator jump from tree to tree like a monkey and if it would just look idiotic. In “Prey” they showed this and I thought it actually looked pretty cool!
Apparently the deal with the Comanche dub is that before Disney bought out Fox they were going to have the movie in Comanche and dub it in English, but when Disney took over they told them no. So the dub is a compromise left over from that
I dont get why everyone suddenly wants this movie in a native american language. When there is a movie taking place in ancient greece or rome, nobody asks for a greek or latin dub version. Weird
@@Revan-eb1wb Comanche is an endangered language with only around 100 living speakers, and i know a lot of native fans of the film really appreciated the efforts for authenticity not just to appeal to white audiences, plus the Comanche nation worked hard to make the dub as accurate as possible versus the theatrical cut where it's english but awkwardly throws in comanche words
You know Rich Evans was originally cast as Billy Sole in Predator, but he was so dangerous on set that Sonny Landham with his body guard was considered a safer option for the rest of the crew.
@@Avatar_of_Chairness People think his laughter is genuine sentiment. It's just a gauge for him to figure out when others aren't paying attention... so he can... hunt.
As a matter of fact, "The 13th Warrior" is a John McTiernan-directed film too. I like it a lot to be honest, it has some kind of a vibe of adventure about it which is just great. A great family movie to watch together. :D
You brought up clever language transitions in Prey and in Red October, AND you mentioned 13th Warrior. But 13th Warrior has one of the best language transitions I've ever seen on film. Come on! No mention? Not a perfect movie, but damn under-rated.
I watched this movie with my dad, and I didn't tell him it was a predator movie. We watched the original together since i was young. Was hoping the reveal would be delayed as long as possible but he knew once the predator was dropped off from his ship. Shit just got real he said delighted. 2 minutes after the movie ended, you guys posted this review.
I liked that Predator arrived sooner. It gave time to establish how the Predator himself is a rookie and in an alien world hunting different animals trying to find worthy prey.
I think they spread his early appearances out well enough. The film might have been at risk if it leaned too much into the tribe stuff without seeing a Predator at all for too long. Getting very short and minor glimpses of him being around was probably the best way to go, and it takes a while before we see him properly anyway.
The one thing I always heard about "predator lore" was that the less gadgets a predator used, the better they were considered in their society. Yet, basically every Predator movie is about an alien hunter armed to the teeth with brutal gadgets, so like every one of these guys was basically babytime. They all use a cloaking device, too, which seems like just the absolute biggest crutch, how good would they really do without it, I wonder. It's a lore that's really at odds with the general premise of just having an alien that kills a bunch of people in cool ways.
The thing I took from Prey is that the Predators try to match the weapons of their enemy in combat. When he's fighting snakes, wolves, or bears he uses nothing but a claw. When the tribesmen start using spears and bows he starts using his projectile weapon, and when the trappers start blasting him with multiple muskets he pulls out all the stops and just starts annihilating them with alien tech (also kills the guy who netted him with that razor net, and when he steps in the bear trap, he also starts using that against the hunters as well). This also tracks with why the soldiers in the original Predator get demolished. They are armed to the teeth, so the Predator can just go wild with his advanced weaponry and wreck them. From that perspective, the Predator's death is kind of a karmic retribution for breaking his own code. He attempts to use his ranged weapon against an enemy that doesn't have any ranged weapons at her disposal, and ends up killing himself.
True, but maybe they sent all their aspiring rookies to Earth to learn the nuance of their craft and ‘if they’re any chop’ they’ll develop the skill set to merc all comers on all Worlds with naught but their retractable hand shanks. ….the guys they’re sending here aren’t the elite assassins. They’re not yet experienced enough to simply spawn on a planet like Earth with a basic load-out like final-form Billy, with nought but a giant machete and a some beef to address.
A good period piece for the Predator franchise would be the ancient Rome. For example the lost IX Legion in Caledonia. If Mike wants to see it battle an army (and win), it would be a perfect setting and a "what if" explanation of the 9th legion's disappearance
@Latch My name is Manimus Toxus Patriarchus , commandRESS of the Womyn of Entitled, GeneralESS of the Tampax Legions and NEVER a servant to the toxic, mansplaining, evil white emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father/Mother to a murdered They/Them, Husband to a murdered Non Binary Vegan POC. And I will have my 'equality', in this patriarchy or the next.
@Tater Tots 'have to be'? you know that the absolutely vast roman empire, which at its peak spanned 5 million square kilometres, had a lot of non-white people in it? it stretched from north-africa to the middle east, not to mention all the traders and travellers from other places. interestingly enough with the discussion of the ix legion who campaigned in roman britain, classicist mary beard highlights that quintus lollius urbicus, a black berber roman, was governor of britain only a couple of decades after the ix legion disappeared point is, no, the case would not 'have to be white europeans', unless it had a very boring casting director
If this movie got the Apocalypto treatment it would have been incredible. Apocalypto had the legit actor ethnicity, correct language used, live animals and occasional animatronics to avoid immersion-breaking CGI, and (most importantly) all genuine in-camera stuntwork that just looked incredible. The language and CGI overuse detracted from the experience here, but it was still good overall.
@@EmanAugust true but Apocalypto is also one of the best movies ever made tbh. I rate even above the OG Predator for immersive jungle manhunt movies heh
the fact that were comparing this to Apocalopto is a step up. Predator started out as B-movie schlock and whent downhill from there. Comparing it to triple-A masterpieces is pretty amazing lol
@@brandontaylor3874 It's not fair to compare things to Apocalypto. However, Predator is not a b-movie. In fact, it tries to make fun of b-movie schlock while also being one of the best creature features ever made. It also had revolutionary special effects for the time. Predator is awesome. Apocalpyto > Predator > Prey > 70% of movies in existence.
regarding depicting language: coincidently "the 13th warrior" very cleverly has norse/germanic and greek then slowly transitions into english because Ahmad ibn Fadlan is a scholar from Baghdad (arguably the most advanced city in the world at the time) he listens and learns. an awesome underrated movie.
The studios *believe* that people wouldn't want to watch a movie about comanches in the comanche language. God forbid they experimented a little bit and just tried to find out, if we actually like it. It literally fucks my suspension of disbelief, when natives from the 1700s speak modern English, especially when Naru said about the Predator "I won't let the Big Guy sniff my hair!". Come on, man!
"Apocalypto" was a box office success, so they have no real excuse. And frankly, there shouldn't be that much dialogue in a film like this anyway. Half of the first film was just Arnold grunting alone in the jungle, because everyone else was dead by then.
While I didn't necessarily mind them speaking english, a Comanche version subtitled with English would have been so much better. You're right that they should have taken a risk, because I've seen a lot of people saying they would have much preferred seeing the movie filmed in Comanche to really help the immersion out.
You guys should do a Re:view of Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Seriously trips me out that its his film, people have complained about some historical inaccuracies of the Mayan culture in the film, but Gibson was incredibly commited into an all indigenous cast and in entirely the Mayan language. Art direction is some of the best I've ever seen with cool costumes, jungle locations and gigantic practical sets. Sounds to me like its the type of film Jay wanted Prey to be where it has enough grit to not feel like it was shot this century its incredibly immersive.
@callmecatalyst you're commenting on a video of a story of a thousand pound space gorilla-lizard guy with laser beams coming to america to hunt bears and native americans lol and the phrase "weirdly pro- Mel Gibson still"-- i'm supposed to believe someone throwing in phrases like that is coming from a politically neutral stance here? you're gonna try and pretend that you're the normal unbiased commenter? Yeah ok. the guy just said he liked Mel's Apocalypto, didn't say shit about the man himself. I think you are the one with an axe to grind and not him, it seems a lot more like you are "weirdly anti-Mel Gibson" than the OP being "weirdly pro-Mel".
@callmecatalyst In IMDb, I seem to have given *Apocalypto* (2006) an 8/10. IMDb score seems to be: *7.8/10* (better than Prey...). Rotten Tomatoes is not what it used to be, especially Tomatometer, which has become a sad meme. Anyways, the less sus Audience Score is *79 %.* PS. If someone somewhere makes a movie, and I actually think it's a good movie, then I say it's a good movie. Simple as that. When you're just being honest, you don't have to worry about cringy, dishonest, illogical and ever-changing rules. _"Yeah, but from nowon you're not supposed to like that movie, f*cking idiot!"_
@callmecatalyst Oh no he took some artistic license....its the end of the world...It was fine...watching a Hollywood film for the historical accuracy is just silly...it sounds like you just have a grudge against Gibson...
The weapons were simpler because the predator was playing up or down to its prey. It took on the bear with only a blade. It used a predator version of a bow and arrow, spear, etc.
I'm surprised that there was no mention that the director makes fun at themselves with the post credit bit, they made 10 cloverfield lane and everyone was like 'its great up until the spaceship shows up' so in this film it ends right before spaceships show up haha.
Didn't the predator walk past Naru because of her lowered body temperature from the orange flower herbs? The Frenchman (who gave her the pistol) was fed the same orange herbs by Naru and the predator saw his body as cold and probably thought he was a corpse. I like the prey symbolism, I'm just confused.
No you're correct, the Predator initially ignored her for being prey but when it came for the fat legless beard guy she was using the flowers to drop her temperature
I want a different twist of this story. A comanche man that wants to do what the women do. He is 300 pounds of pure muscle, but wants to search for herbs and knit. The women of the tribe mock him, and tell him to go back to hunting. "Bring me a buffalo!" they scream at him. His hands are too big and he cannot knit the more delicate fabrics. His father ask him "Why do you want to knit, son?" and he responds whispering: "... because they told me I can't". Then... the predator appears! all the men are out hunting or dead and he and the women must hide. They devise a plan, but requires a big and strong net that must be done that night. "We cannot knit this net in time, our hands are too small!" one woman say. "We need... bigger hands". The camera pans to our hero. Thanks to the powerful net he makes, they manage to capture and kill the predator. At the end, he is the first man to have a croning ceremony.
Actually, originally the movie was supposed to be shot all in Comanchee, and then the study insisted on changing it. Which I honestly think was the wrong choice. This movie will be forgotten in a year. If it had been all in a native American language, that would have had some staying power. Yes, the general audience doesn‘t like reading subtitles… but if you dub it anyway, make English the dub, and Comanchee the original!
Loved the contrast at the 30min mark for Prey. She can't kill a rabbit and the Predator kills a wolf that just killed a rabbit, showing the gap between them in the beginning. I know it's already pretty obvious but it was a nice touch.
20 minutes in She can’t kill rabbit Next shot: can’t kill rabbit Next shot: can’t kill rabbit Next shot: adds a string… genocides a rabbit family. 45 minutes later… Enters ultra instinct and dodges and kills five large, heavy French men with ease. Also, she was maimed the day before with the trap and is fine, not even a limp.
I think they should make a shot for shot remake of the original Predator, the only twist being that it's actually an elite group of Predators getting systematically hunted down by Riddick, as portrayed by the illustrious Vin Diesel
Honestly if Predator films were now just period pieces that had surprise Predators (samurai vs predators movie, etc) i’d be down for that
Like imagine a freaking group of Samurai charging a Predator group with the climax being shooting fireworks at them or something. Like who wouldn’t watch that
Seven Samurai but instead of bandits...
That would lose novelty really fast when it becomes "Alien species with the technology for spaceflight that lives to hunt keeps getting their asses kicked by pre-industrial humans."
It makes me think of RLM's points about Star Trek TNG; when they wanted to bring in a strong alien to prove how powerful it was, they had it fight against Worf and win. The only issue is that they did it so often that it actually just made Worf look weak.
Just like the Mars Attacks books.
Well, atleast it is a start. Check this movie out. Alien vs. Ninja (2010)
It is good to see that bear is getting more roles after the revenant.
The bear was totally snubbed for best supporting actor for the Revenant. Leo wouldn't have gotten his Oscar without him.
It was actually a CG face replacement with the revenant bear over a stunt bear actor’s head in this film. Insurance wouldn’t let him get his paws dirty now that he’s a huge star.
@@itsd0nk We have a good union
Did you know his first role was in Shrek?
You mean the animator
They can make a Predator Western, set about a hundred years after this, and that's how the Predators get the flintlock pistol back.
Nope.. They go to pick this predator back up.. Find him dead so watch his recordings.. See her kill him and then hunt her down and slaughter her and likely anyone else in the tribe who so much as glances on their direction. It's the only way that makes sense.
I can imagine that. A sort of red dead redemption except it's the predator killing everything in sight with the preternatural ability to skin all once living things in seconds...
And dies at the end after slipping and falling off a ten foot ledge
That would be sweet
i still hate the inclusion of the flintlock. its worthless.
They probably came to retrieve the head and give her a spear in exchange of that flintlock, lol.
Congrats, you just wrote the lost finished draft for Cowboys & Aliens
The language switch in The Hunt for Red October is fantastic bit of film making. I always smile when I watch that scene.
Say what you will, but that transition from Russian to English in Red October around the word "Armageddon" (which is the same in both languages) is smooooooth. That's like the gold standard for getting around the so-called translation convention movies "have" to have.
I agree with your here. Just want t point out how it’s not entirely same, as they would have different emphasis.
Thank god you are here to tell us that fact for the 800th time
@@robirvine6970 Well i didnt know so im glad he said it
I think about that scene for literally every movie where there's another language. Glad to see I have another who agrees
The same director did the same trick in the movie they quoted at the beginning, The 13th Warrior! Where Banderas slowly learn the native Norse language by listening to them through their travels, great stuff. John McTiernan was top tier director!
The shot composition makes Mike look hilariously tiny compared to Jay. It's like forced perspective in Lord of the Rings...
That was great
Now we just need Mike surrounded by green screen everything and having a nervous breakdown à la Sir Ian McKellen on the Lord of the Rings set.
Lol I watched the video twice before I noticed how giant Jay looks.
I can't unsee this now :,)
Once seen, can't be unseen!
Technically, Twilight boy who played The Batman was also the Harry Potter boy
Talk about the Green Goblin boy who shared a Lighthouse with him (all Plato-like of course).
Robert Patterson is his name
The man who walks in three worlds
That’s what happens when you’ve been waiting to get your VCR repaired since like 2007!!!
Do you mean Masturbates-to-Mermaid Boy?
Honestly, it was the main characters in the first and second movies using their brains that helped them ultimately overcome the Predator. The reason everyone else dies typically is because you can't just brute force your way through it. Arnold gets his arse kicked until he can use a trap finally at the end. So if the main character uses their brains to ultimately succeed, then it fits the theme?
It does fit the theme, though arnold having to go back to primitive tools had a much greater effect in the first movie. Its like, they tried fighting them with all our modern tools, but what was actually needed was to know your enemy and use strategy. There's a progression there. If you just start primitive, and stay primitive its less interesting.
The choice to make the protagonist as skilled as they did also seems like a mistake imo, but b/c they went with the "past" setting they kind of had to in order to make it at all believable.
And for a while, the protagonist in horror movies that killed the monster was usually a woman. They didn't start them off skilled most of the time, because it was a more entertaining to see them overcome the odds that way, BUT because they weren't set in the past, they had more tools to work with. Ripley shot an alien out of an airlock, used a flame thrower to hold alien eggs hostage, used a walker to fight the queen head on. Sara conner used a metal press iirc to kill the terminator, and shotguns maybe I don't remember. I think freddie was killed with wierd dream magic or something. I think jason could have been killed by primitive tools, but I think he was just killed in simple ways in most of the friday the 13th movies too.
Tbh though I don't think anyone working on a predator sequel is going to be able to make a good movie no matter what at this point. Whatever the reason, not a single predator movie has felt good since the second one. Predators came close for me, but still felt like a mess. I think its because they stopped trying to make a good movie, and kept trying to make "another predator", but who knows what goes on behind the scenes.
tl;dr: A female protagonist could have fit right in with the predator movies, but they were forced to write an unsatisfying character by setting the film in the past, but they'd probably make a terrible movie either way, so whatever.
@@prw56 How does having the story set in past make for an unsatisfying main character? I thought Prey was fantastic not only as a Predator movie but also as an historical period piece. The attention to detail for historical accuracy was very, very good (I looked it up to see). As were the spectacular landscape shots. Watching the Comanche dubbed version made the immersion even better for me as well.
I thought Naru had a good arc too; from being unsure of herself at first, using her tracking and medicinal skills, always observing and learning from others and her surroundings, and then overcoming adversity to become a capable survivor by the end. All while fighting against the social pressures on her to keep within traditional gender norms. It’s an arc that’s been done before sure but it was portrayed pretty well and in a novel setting. Granted they probably could have had her fail a bit more to have made it more realistic. I’m not gonna complain too much though as this is still the best Predator film we’ve had since the first one imo (Predators wasn’t bad).
Also she didn’t just go from “primitive to primitive” weapons. She did the inverse of Dutch by starting off with axes, knives & arrows, then learning to use the flintlock pistol, then finally figuring out the alien targeting visor to use the Predator’s own guided bolts against itself.
@@prw56 she didn’t “stay primitive” she made her own rope axe, went to gunpowder, and then predator tech, her arsenal was constantly evolving
@@decoyoctopod8514facts, no idea what movie this guy saw lmao
Dude lost his mask and got the dog shit beat outta him by a human girl.
For an ageist, Mike can sure impersonate The Elderly a little too well.
😂"Keep your friends close..." and so on.
The Clayton Bigsby of ageists
His cringe age humor came back to haunt him when William Shatner turned off his review 10 minutes in after the crude age jokes got too much
Impersonate?
I think it comes from a deep seated awareness and fear of his own mortality.
Since you brought it up, I think that the 13th warrior did a great job of transitioning through languages. When Antonio Banderas’ character is first with the Vikings they’re all speaking Norse. Then Banderas’ character travels with the northmen. It shows, over a long period of time, that he slowly learns/picks up the language going from Norse to English. Then the language is changed to 100% English. I always thought it was a clever idea.
I agree. Instead of transitioning straight to English it does so gradually, showing him learning slowly, picking up a word here and there and mixing in English with the Norse until he becomes conversant in Norse.
Same director of Hunt for Red October and Predator, btw. So it makes sense.
@@mikecart2494 John Mctiernan🤩
I love that scene. And that movie. Way underrated. The ‘snake of fire’ coming down the mountain is one of the most ominous scenes in all cinema imo
@@ianm1462 and the soundtrack really sells that moment too!
Hopefully the next Predator movie will be set 1000 years in the future where technology is so advanced, the predator drop ship will get shot down before it gets anywhere near earth.
How bout a special military or corporate unit of humans that hunt predators in the future? Or futuristic bounty hunters that get tricked into hunting a predator by some rich dude. I think there would be a lot of potential for a fully sci-fi Predator movie.
Haha!
@@P3t3rminator I always liked the “realistic” tech vs Predators over it becoming too Sci-Fi. Predator 2 balanced this well with the OWLF guys using suits and rudimentary prototype stuff
@@thermonuclear8335 I know what you mean, but if the franchise just starts to branch out throughout history they should maybe also explore a more futuristic setting.
and then rest of the move movie will be about galactic senat and trade taxes
I love the line during the review Mike reads - "hand musket".
It's called a pistol.
@mikea hiooi Honestly if people kept copying and pasting other peoples comments from now on I’ll be down for that
@@5114ares Honestly if people kept copying and pasting other peoples comments from now on I'll be down with that
I think it’s intended to be ironic because that’s what someone from the 1700’s might call it because the musket was the technology of the time
It's a flint lock pistol
No it's a blunderbuss
The thermal vision of ET in the closet was so funny. Thank you for that.
I don't know why, but I like the role-reversal way more than I should. Seeing (Rich Evan's version of) Plinkett thriving in the VCR shop is just so oddly wholesome, it reinvigorated him and I love it.
it bring a small glimmer of hope to a lost world.
Role reversal? “Rich evans version”? What television program are you watching?
It’s like poetry. It rhymes.
And the shop looks so clean and organized!
I clapped. My expectations were subverted.
The reverse de-aging technology they used on Mike is incredibly realistic. Well Done.
But did they have to make him so sexy?
@@LetusGamerNo but it was cheaper
"All I know is that the world is a **** mess, and I hate everything."
I couldn't agree more.
I love how tiny Mike looks in Plinkett's chair and how enormous Jay is in the wheelchair.
This was messing with my head the entire video..
They want Jay to feel bigger once in a while.
Diabeetus…
It’s like that Joe Biden/Jimmy Carter photo 😆
I actually once saw a fan film called Predator: Dark Ages about a group of knights fighting a predator, and I know there was a comic that took place in feudal Japan too. Personally I love the concept of just the Predator through the ages
It makes more sense than constant reboots to just explore various aspects of the story that is possible based on the end of the Predators 2.
What’s funny is that same fan film was also being called woke. Something about there being a female knight.
Seriously. Just follow the Assassin's Creed structure, without the need for even a connecting thread to the current day. Predator is one of the few properties that can make that kind of history-hopping make sense without breaking a sweat.
Plus the Preds' tech and armor can evolve/devolve based on the time period, so that's an added layer of uniqueness for each movie. Shit, for more modern time periods you can have a 2-3 man Predator team where each member specializes in different types of combat. Lotta easy ways to keep the franchise fresh.
@@ashb7 I think in the samurai comic it suggests that the predator uses different weapons/tools based off what their prey has access too. I think it was mainly to get a predator dressed in samurai armor with a katana but honestly a samurai predator looks so cool I’m for it.
Predator Ukraine, except all the women went to Poland
Also, I'm in full agreement that "If it bleeds, we can kill it" is one of the best movie lines of all time.
It's so good
And it was bleeding through the whole movie.
I ain't got time to bleed...
Almost as good as "We're gonna need a bigger boat..."
I tell my girl that once a month
Red October is a masterclass in directing. I like how Sean Connery's Captain Ramius is Lithuanian to explain his different accent.
It's one of the few movies I could literally watch every day if I had to. It's perfectly imperfect.
..... is a masterclass in "I was the original James Bond, of course I'm not going to learn a new accent!!" laziness.
(Yes yes I know that squirrelly looking guy was technically the first JB I mean the first "real" one)
The novel it's based on also says Ramius is Lithuania so the Clancy nerds had nothing to complain about there with the movie.
That shit is unbelievably boring.
it was a good movie. i should see it again
Mike does a good Mr. Plinkett impression, he should do movie reviews with that voice.
I can already picture it.
nah, I don't see it. Never gonna happen
Yeah, don’t be ridiculous
There's no way these talentless hacks could pull something like that off
No one cares about that
Turns out they were playing the long game with us, because Mike will start to assume the identity of Mr. Plinkett after getting severe dementia and believing that he lives at that house and the mail is addressed to him, and Mr. Plinkett will start going by his first and middle name, Rich Evans, which will tie all the RLM lore together because the new Mr. Plinkett will discover the old Mr. Plinkett’s Phantom Menace VHS tapes and then begin a long rambling dissertation broadcast to his web zone using technology from the early 2000s to edit it, and in the Half in the Bag finale it will be revealed that the entire series was a prequel to the Star Wars prequel reviews being a clever meta-commentary on the idea of a prequel as an homage to their favorite film of recent history Matrix Resurrections, and in the process fixing many of the plot holess in the Red Letter Media cinematic universe timeline, which is actually a clever metaphor lampooning Hollywood’s over-reliance on interconnected cross-media franchises.
this is my headcanon now, only needs to add Jay marrying Mr Plinkett
Jay marries Mr Plinkett and is then killed in an “accident”
@@liquidityoforange440 Where do you think all the human remains in the basement came from?
this seems like a fantastic way to close out season 1 of half in the bag
It would also prove to be a clever meta commentary on one of the key themes of the Prequel reviews- In order to talk about Star Wars in excruciating detail nonstop for hours. You'd need to be a psychopath.
16:26 In 2006, "Apocalypto" managed to pull off a feature entirely shot in an indigenous people's language that turned a healthy RoI, and that was without franchise brand recognition. It seems like they could have made it work.
Now I'm picturing the end of "Apocalypto" with Predator ships instead of Spanish ships...
I think Mel Gibson barely pulled it off. It was critiqued for blending Aztec and Mayan cultures, and I think that was his last movie before his drunken tirade.
Overall I agree though: it's easily the best mainstream portrayal of an indigenous American culture.
did Prey have any funny scenes in it?
like 'tapir breath'
That sounds like a prequel to Alien vs Predator movies.
Have you seen the eastbound and down apocalypto reference in season 3?
@@DanielWilliams-oi4ss still light-years better then this souless crap
That Mary Sioux joke is legendary
Q : How do you make sure Native American software keeps running properly?
A : With Apache !! Aztec goes, it's the highest!
(Not funny, huh? Maya sense of humor stinks? So Sioux me... A Chickasaw this joke and she laughed out loud, so I think I'm doing fine.)
@onei jike Did you really just copy that comment and paste it in a thread? Makes sense seeing as you are a sex bot.
Even an additional punchline drum was played while they silently looked into the camera lol. These guys are hilarious.
@Obsidian X my god you people are pathetic. There’s been literally one female main protagonist in the *entire* series. Calm down
@onei jike honestly, if three more accounts posted the exact same post, I'd be down for that.
The pistol was referenced in a darkhorse comic in the 80s or 90s. Pirates had turned on their somewhat honorable captain "Raphael Adolini" off the coast of Guinea after they raid a church. In the comic it was an entire crew of muntinous pirates chasing the Captain around while the Predator observed. The Predator observes the personal honor code of Raphael Adolini and the Predator and captain eventually fight together. The captain gets killed fighting alongside the Predator and the captain in a last gesture gives his pistol to the Predator. The Predator then tracks down and kills the rest of the pirates. Not saying they should make this because now they can't, but Predators and Pirates may be interesting. Historically 1715 to 1726 is considered the "Golden Age" of piracy.
My only non-nitpick issue with the movie was that pistol. It's implied that Predators come back and take the pistol by some means. And I have hard time figuring out how the pistol ends in Predator hands without breaking some sort of continuity. Either the Predators of Old were vindictive and not about honoring winner, and took revenge of their lost kinsman. Or there's gonna be something where Predators (since there was more than one ship landing in that pic) and Comanche have to team up for something even more dangerous. Either way this sounds like it's going against what is -- at least in my head -- the motivation and character of these Predators. (Mind you, I only count first two movies to be canon, with AvP being conceptually fun what if scenario, even if execution left lot to desire.)
I would have much rather seen universe of Predator movies where we see their visits in our past. See some Edo period Samurai take them on. See Predators vs Pirates. Some Viking v Predator action. etc. And some of them would end Predator winning, some would end Predator losing, some would explain stuff like Tunguska explosion event as Predator losing and activating that nuke they carry. Etc. Something where people going in don't know who is gonna come out of top, but knowing that they'll be entertained by the fight.
To be honest. They should forget about continuity and lore. Just put Predator wherever you want it and have fun with it.
but in the comics, the name is "Andolini". so the comic is set in a parallel universe and isn't canon to the movies.
woodoo hide?
@@Kidd724 I do not get the reference, what do you mean?
Predator, Red October AND 13th Warrior were all directed by John McTiernan. I actually really liked the way Red October and 13th Warrior tackled their "translation" by zooming in on the actor speaking in one language and zooming out when they begin to speak in English.
I liked the way they did it in the 13th warrior how him learning their language and it transitioning to english. Was a nice touch.
@@captinundies6049 right! It's been years since I've seen it so I was a little fuzzy on that part. That movie got slagged a lot (especially by Omar Sharif) but I really dug it. Those vikings kicked all kindsa ass.
I also like you like how it is done in Red October the transition is done on the word Armageddon. Which is what Red October is designed to do. And also the word Armageddon is the same in Russian and English.
I just watched The 13th Warrior and actually really liked it. It's not even close to being as good as the novel, which is excellent, but I was kind of surprised I enjoyed it so much.
Wow, Jay is really off his game for not pointing that out when those movies came up.
A Predator in King Arthur’s Court is the Mark Twain adaption we all need.
Search Predator : dark Ages
Predator on bikini bottom, Flippy Crabby patties
Or Predator hunting down A prey on a theater…in the 1880’s and the prey is…President Lincoln Vampire Hunter.
Preditor Poppins.
your children WILL do what their told.
I would imagine that being kind of like Brotherhood Of The Wolf, but with a different twist. (Badass movie by the way)
So many people just don't understand the first Predator movie. It's super over the top 80's action stars (rippling muscles, huge guns and machismo) going in all guns blazing... and then getting picked off one by one by an enemy they can't see, they can't intimidate and they have practically no ability to beat. Predator is almost Lovecraftian. It shows that man, for all his perceived strength and power, is a helpless bug waiting to be squashed by this extraterrestrial force they can barely comprehend. They don't even really know why it's killing them. It's assumed it's hunting them for sport, but truly, it's purpose is unknown. It's just a killing machine.
Word salad
@@DT-tq8ku yummie yummie
@@DT-tq8ku you should read it, it was a good paragraph.
@@DT-tq8ku If you consider that word salad I feel sorry for your teachers.
that's why. for all it's schlock, the motto of AVP is amazing, "Whoever wins, we lose."
One thing that I've never seen anyone mention is how every Predator seems to end up getting killed all because they can't handle their addiction problem. Why do they always stick around Earth for so long? In the first movie the Predator skins something like 7 people, then slaughters 10 more (don't check my math on this please, because it's probably wrong), and at that point you'd think he'd have enough spines and skulls to take home, but he keeps going after bigger and bigger animals to get better and better trophies (Schwarzenegger's "Dutch" being the best human prize possible). It's like gambling addicts. They'll win big at the casino but not stop at that big win. Instead they keep going after bigger and bigger wins until finally they lose it all, and end up getting their knees broken by some mafia guy they borrowed too much money from. It's the one character flaw in every Predator we've seen. If they would just kill, like, three humans and a bear and then fly home, they'd be livin' the good life back on their own planet with some cool alien bones to show to their grandPredatorchildren. Everything in moderation, that's the key to a healthy lifestyle.
I mean they've come all this way, they gotta make the trip worthwhile.
It's also well established that they eat meat. So, it could be cultural. What the predators actually do and why is not established at all other than what you see. What we can't see or what may not be as obvious is that perhaps they MUST earn their meals in combat with the most dangerous food source they encounter. Perhaps their status is based not just on the most unusual trophies but on the volume of them. Perhaps they have a religious obligation to remove the alphas from every species who may one day become a threat to their own and that's why they travel the galaxy. Maybe some novels or comics delve into this further so I could be way off but it's plausible they have their reasons. Most hunting cultures have a lot of mythos and ritual around their hunting. IT doesn't seem like they're just alien doctors and lawyers on big game hunting safaris.
Actually Predators have a gland that compel them to kill, they are literally hardwired to do this. Which says something else about mental problems.
Cause when it literally takes "light years" to travel to your destination then your going to get all you can in the amount of time you have till your universal taxi shows up. Bigger trophies equal to bigger bragging rights for better positioning in the predator ranks.
The predators live by the “work hard, play hard” motto
Here to watch this again so the RLM crew gets that sweet UA-cam money so Rich Evans and Mike Stoklasa can afford their diabetes and dementia treatments respectively.
Just imagining Mike in a senior home watching VHS vids of elderly people with problems and laughing. The caretakers just bewildered.
I bought shitty pint glasses I never used to help them.
an entirely just cause.
'Get to the chopper!' as a native American tells their friend to go get their axe would have been so terrible but also so perfect.
Underrated comment
I hate it so much it's amazing
Omfg I needed this in there
You win. That's it.
Nah, she was so smart, she could make the chopper come to her 😜
Mikes laugh after Jay says “Predator: Phone Home,” is adorable.
Mike being able to just freestyle write bad movies astounds me every time
He and Rich Evans have a gift. Maybe it's from being cursed by watching so many bad ones.
He did make Space Cop
*great movies
Makes me proud to have gone to the same community college as him
Honestly, Mike usually comes up with a movie I would rather see than the one they happen to be reviewing.
I would unironically trust Rich Evans to repair my VCR.
He would make it even flatter so it couldn't tip over
(wheel reference)
This series has gotten so fucking ridiculous but this latest entry is the final straw, mike owning an iphone 13 Max is completely out of character for him, his printer paper boomer energy has been completely pushed aside to appease a modern audience.
"The predator seems harmless"
*Sounds of arms being chopped off and heads being sliced off*
Props to whoever edited this
@@ImmortalDaevon Oh really? I actually didn't know that! He's freaking great!
@@ImmortalDaevon I think they take turns
You can tell Jay edited this one because he made himself look much larger than Mike
i was expecting more comments about how weird the size difference is in this one
This was killing me. It’s subtle enough that I was trippin
Oh good, that's a thing and I'm not crazy, lol! Kept wondering if maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me.
I noticed that right away and wondered if it was force perspective or what was going on.
Huh, I've been listening to the audio while working on stuff, and didn't really notice until seeing them both in the same spot.
34:30 Mike looks like a kid next to Jay. He could basically sit on his lap and tell Jay what he wants for Christmas.
I watched this with my girlfriend who had never heard of it and told her it was a movie about a Native American tribe. Her face when the predator rocks up was absolutely priceless.
That's fucking great 😆
This is kind of how I watched Prometheus
Oh man hahahahah
So she was hot, and bothered over his appearance heh.
@@chrisprattsabs1543 thats how they were gonna release the movie first, market it as a Native American rites of passage movie without mentioning anything then boom, the twist is it's a Predator movie and you find out as you're watching it in theatres. Unfortunately it leaked very early that its a Predator movie so they couldn't hide it. Would have been awesome to watch it in theatres not knowing
I also liked how the Predator had rules
He only used his stabby claws for the snake, wolf, lion and bear
When people started shooting arrows at him he used his arrow launcher
When he got attacked with spears he busted out his spear
When the French trappers netted him he used nets
Once the gunpowder muskets were out he had his little shield and was just sick of everyone and bombed the place.
That's a good point. However, he did activate his cloak in a fist fight when he was struggling to beat the brother. The guy has rules, but he's kind of a punk too.
@@peacemaster8117 I'd love to know the Predator hunting commission rules on cloaking devices
It is definitely the most unfair thing that is used the most frequently
@@peacemaster8117 Predators are kinda punks in general. If you ever beat one their go-to tactic is usually nuking the whole area. Talk about sore losers.
If the yautja only use equivalent weaponry, I guess any form of camo constitutes the use of cloaking device?
"That guy's in brown leathers, and it is pretty muddy here. Best go invisible."
yup. its all about honor killing with the predator. We dont stand a chance otherwise, they literally have missiles on the ship, this is just for their "personal growth hunting trip" lol
What Mike was saying about the brother taking credit for the lion did happen, as Naru falls from the tree, she sticks the lion in the side with her spear, Taabe admits later that she weakened it enough that it was easy to bring home.
I never knew Predator vs. ET was the movie I needed, but here we are.
But Micheal Jackson is dead. Who they gonna get to play The Predator.
@@predalien1413 bill Cosby
@@kartoffel4870 Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton who took more trips to Lolita Island in 18 months then Epstein did. And still no FBI raid on his house.
One Ugly Motherfucker Phone Home!
There was supposed to be a movie called ‘Pride and Predator’ with an alien menace setting down in Jane Austin’s Regency England and causing mayhem. It doesn’t seem to have ever been made though. This would totally be an awesome setting for a real Predator movie!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤳
I remember. It's working title was "Pridator".
There is a "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" movie though.
You know Jack the Ripper? Well, his name wasn't Jack! ;P
Hugh Grant seduces the Pred
This is the closest thing we've gotten to a Plinkett review in years
I'm guessing that's cus Mike doesn't like making them? If he did he'd do it.
I don't care if Mike likes doing them or not, they're f****** genius and we need more of them God damn it, but seriously it would be nice to see
Come back Plinkett
Thank God. Plinkett reviews are movie versions of avgn. There's a reason those are criticized more than watched
I didn't miss them at all.
13:25 I moved to my dad’s reservation in 7th grade and I remember laughing at the morning announcements because of all the funny native names. “Wooden Legs”, “white man runs him”, “pretty man” and other names I had never heard before.
Amazing that the guy who was willing to make an all non-English speaking period epic was Mel Gibsons Apocalypto.
He's a good man
The director wanted to do that for this film, but couldn't convince the studio
It wasn't the first time this was done to at least some length of degree. In the early 1980s there was one of the greatest mini-series "Shogun" that had a lot of dialogue in Japanese with very little subtitles. In much of the movie you had to interpret what was going on through how the English characters reacted who also many times didn't know what was said.
Such an underrated film, absolutely love it every time
@@69Jackjones69 Just don't mention Jewish people when you're around him.
E.T.'s face with the heat signature killed me.
They rebooted the episode about reboots. Brilliant stuff.
Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
I watched the first one before it went private, what did they edit out of this one? I really don't wanna watch another 40 plus minutes lol
@@NYC_Goody Probably a spoiler scene the studio doesn't want them to have shown since the movie is newish.
@@LilyApus Jay had a John Ritter-esque ball slip around 33 minutes in. Fans of Jay caught it immediately and were confirmed for being fans of Jay.
@@LilyApus It got age restricted for some reason before they took it down. No idea why.
I thought the "new" Predator gadgets, smallpox blankets and liters of liquor, were cool, but a little insensitive
I'm picturing ET making the Predator feel psychically what he's feeling and The Predator gets all remorseful.
The hovercraft he's using is actually the hoverboard from Back to the Future Part II, it's implied the Predator murdered Marty McFly and took it from him as a trophy.
@@LastRenegade do those boards work on water?
You know you're in for a good time when Mike says "I can already picture it".
Oh the irony of John Leguizamo complaining about someone getting cast as another ethnicity when he played an Italian in the Super Mario Bros movie
He also played an Abyssin in The Mandalorian, and he sure as heck isn't one of those, the hack fraud
Fidel castro was of spanish ethnicity. James franco is partly of portuguese background. So, both are white. Therefore, john was wrong either way
Or when he put on white face for Spawn. That is offensive to demon clowns, sir!
The wide shot with Mike and Jay makes Jay look like a giant compared to Mike 😂
I read a book of Predator short stories a while back that had some interesting historical settings for a Predator story. One was during the Civil War, another was in the late Tokugawa shogunate. Both were well thought-out takes on how the people of those times/places would deal with something like a Predator (the Japanese in the second story, for instance, called it "The Oni of the Three Sparks")
Sounds great. What is the book title please?
second ^ whats it called
I neeeed that
Samurai japan imediatly came to mind for a location of a historical predator spin off
'Predator: If it Bleeds'
It’s really great and progressive that the Shady Oaks retirement home allowed these elderly gentlemen to create videos still, pretty damn heartwarming
is that a goddamn Golden girls reference lmao.
i think you mean shady Acres friend
@@bencousins7311 it's Shady pines..
You think they don't allow the elderly to normally do this? Makes sense, think how terrifying youtube would be
The important thing to remember is that the Predators give their prey a sporting chance since they are actually trying to enjoy the hunt. They're not space dentists looking to shoot famous movie animals from a safe distance.
There really needs to be a series where the predator actually wins and then goes on to hunt new and interesting quarry. Just an episodic set of adventures where humans aren't the only prey. It could go from hunting strange and horrifying beasts to assassinating a high-value target simply because it is a challenging task.
Like One Punch Man, but it's a Predator
they are also, and this is the critical aspect of their characterization that only Predator, Predators, and Prey have captured, just *awful* fucking pricks
the Predator takes off his gun to fight Dutch not because it's the 'honorable' thing to do, but because shooting a naked monkey dead isn't going to be any fun. he did not fly however many light years and spend however many space bucks just to unload an assault rifle into a side of beef. he could have done that at home.
I like that idea a lot. A Most Dangerous Game style series where the Predator move onto more and more dangerous prey until they find an apex predator
They found the Xenomorph… how much more interesting can it get
And then the Predator goes to his home planet to his wife Predator whos cooking and cleaning the Predator house in an apron and he says "Honey im home and i brought dinner"👍
I really like Mike's idea for the climax. It shows that women can be strong in different ways and supports the idea that native people build strong communities which is where their strength truly lies, rather than the ferocity of individual warriors within those tribes.
Also we've never really seen a group of people succeeding over a predator (which would be much more realistic), in the end it was always individuals who defeated it.
28:46, One correction for this review is that the Predator didn't ignore the main character in the climax because he recognized the "predator-prey" dichotomy taking place with the fur trapper. But rather, because she took the herb that made her thermally invisible to the Predator. The Predator simply did not know she was there, nor did she ever figure out what his purpose was on the planet
which in itself is ridiculous, a herb cant make your blood run cold. BS movie
i noticed this too but i think they were trying to show her using all the tricks she'd learned throughout the movie.
That scene made me realize how much of a disadvantage the Predator has fully relying on thermal vision. Having her step aside like that just as it walked towards her was a bit too much. That negatively affected my suspension of disbelief and made me think the predators would be smart enough to develop and install motion detection on their helmets too.
@@Loop-flow Predator 2 addressed this, they switch to UV and other nonvisible spectra in the meat packing plant.
@@Loop-flow They would but real talk these are space faring aliens...if they wanted to go all out they could encircle the outskirts of London or Paris and murder everyone in those cities armies and all in a tightening circle of kills within hours. They purposely limit themselves to some degree for sport. Hence why the Predator hand to hand fought everyone (and every animal) that chose that style and got the bites and stab wounds that could have been avoided with long range fire if simply killing was what they were after.
Mike has so many hack fraud ideas. He should really consider writing, directing and acting in his own movie someday. I'm sure it'd be great!
and compose and perform an original song called 'the shuffle and slouch'
@@robertcrump1665 i'd prefer a song called "i want to fuck more"
Maybe something like Cosmic Policeman
Oh wait
Combo breaker
“Mary Sioux” is the best joke that will ever come of the whole “Mary Sue” Internet era. Well done, Mike.
Except she wasn't a Mary Sue, which makes it stupid.
@@Deuteromis
Did you even watch the video or does coming off as belligerent and idiotic just come naturally to you?
@@dampestfrog No she wasn't if you watched the film, she hardly made the mark as a Mary Sue. The scene where it was her and her brother taking down that, hawk, she didn't. When hunting that lion, she got knocked out despite wounding it. A Mary Sue would have h
Killed it in one's shot
You failed at proving she was a Mary Sue.
@@dampestfrog What skills are you talking about? She already was skilled, she doubted herself throughout the movie man.
I noticed you guys have been including more cutaways in Half in the Bag, and hilarious ones at that. Good job on these ;)
The Mary Sioux joke was fu*king classic, well played.
He should have said "Mary Lakota" unsubscribed
@@brosef4154 The Lakota are a disgrace to the Sioux, especially the Pine Ridge ones
Mary Siouxsie and the Banshee?
@@charlottecorday8494 what r u even talking about white woman im Lakota, and Souix is just another name given to Lakota Dakota and Nakota Groups from the Anishhibee tribe told the Europeans that were named Souix witch in their language was snake cause we were at war with one another so it stuck around as Europeans used it. the fuk r u talking about thoo lmao Wasichu
But she wasn't even a Mary Sue in the movie so calling her one is just dumb.
This is what the series SHOULD have been, an anthology series where each movie takes place in a different place and time (samurai, vikings, pirates, etc)
I mean...we can still have that
Oh man, I'd love to see Predator in the Carrabean
@@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 Yeah but we wasted 3 fucking decades NOT doing that
@@nobbynobbs8182 Predators of the Caribbean
Fortunately they’re never gonna stop 🙃
Instead of a direct sequel, I would love an anthology series of Predator movies in different time periods. Predator in the trenches of WW1, Predator in the Vietnam War, etc…
I doubt the trenches of northern France would work for a Predator. The Ottoman and Romanian fronts might be a bit more suited in terms of climate.
Remember that the hunts take place during hot summers. I'd like to see a hunt during some African war, maybe Angola. Have some Cuban soldier who has extended family from Guatemala who might've personally seen the results of a hunt and been told stories about it.
A hunt during the Crusades might be interesting, with crusaders and Saracens teaming up to survive.
A Predator shows up during the Christmas Armistice of WWI
@@deanscordilis7280 cue some kind of Escape to Victory prequel with the Pred in goal.
This is what the people want, this is what the people need. Somebody get hollywood superstar Rich Evans to talk to the execs at Twentieth Century and make it happen.
Was thinking about this today and thought about the 12 Legion legend. The roman Legion that went missing when it went into Scotland.
Did anyone notice this Predator scans the tribes weapons & adjusts his accordingly?? There’s a part where he locks on & scans a the tip of spear to analyze it, then immediately after his shoulder cannon fires tiny arrows. It’s not like this alien species that has mastered Interstellar space travel & cloaking devices hasn’t invented the plasma cannon yet. I thought that was a neat touch.
The language switch for Hunt for Red October was also done that way because the word armageddon is the same in Russian as it is in english
That's pretty deep.
Sometimes... Hollywood doesn't suck ass. They usually do, but not always.
As in both languages borrowed it from Greek?
Thanks captain obvious
@@nightmareeternal8454 Accurate name you gave yourself, ya pillock.
It's funny they mentioned the good things that worked in McTiernan films (Red October, Predator) but then unknowingly mention Antonio Banderas being cast in 13th Warrior, which happens to also be a McTiernan film. It appears McTiernan is the key to everything.
Hey weirdo....are you some kind of McTiernan expert in your mind or something? You come off very loser-ish in your comments Mikey.
Why are you so late obsessed wirh John McTiernan? Lol you're weird bro. Every comment you make is about him specifically. John is that you ?
@@hugh-jasole You got me! Remember meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
McTiernan:
Caught in the temporal slipstream that's forever deliving him closer and closer to his version of Rollerball
It’s been a few years since I’ve seen it but Mel Gibson (love him or hate him) made Apocalyptico.. now imagine that movie, which from what I remember had no one speaking English and was shot gritty, throw in a predator. That sounds like a fun time.
Yes, every line was in spoken in Maya by people with Mayan ancestry, and movie is called Apocalypto.
I like to think the movie depicts what's going on in Gibson's mind all the time.
@@maintaint3003 Yucatec Maya, it's a dialect, not exactly The Mayan language. One of ... 30 or something branches at that. But the effort was appreciated.
That would diminish Apocolypto for what it is. It didn’t NEED supernatural shit like a predator, the culture was already alien as hell. And it actually existed, and thrived.
@@catharticcathexis4527 no I mean a new movie like this one but done to that level with a predator. Apocalypto didn't need it
@@aserta I can excuse some inaccuracies, the fact he made a big budget blockbuster with no English was pretty crazy.
The strength of a man couldn’t defeat the predator…the strength…of a fucking BEAR couldn’t defeat the predator had me rolling 😂😂😂
In “Predator,” the predator does a lot of tree hopping but only while cloaked. I always wondered what it would look like to see a gigantic uncloaked predator jump from tree to tree like a monkey and if it would just look idiotic. In “Prey” they showed this and I thought it actually looked pretty cool!
@gioyu comi isn't it canon lore that Jay is a hobbit?
it looked pretty idiotic honestly
I thought it looked awesome and for ppl that don’t think so were probably watching it on an iPad
@@Petergcomedy93 it looked stupid for people who had their eyes open
@@AaronBowley shut up.
"The world's a mess, and I hate everything."
Me, too, Jay, me, too.
"I hate the world that we live in."
"Yeaaaah."
Mike's movie ideas are fucking mint.
You forgot about berry and crunch
But is his arm mint?
The ET and Predator crossover HAS to happen now!!! XD
The E.T. vs Predator segment was fantastic - legitimately want to see that get made.
There must be some half decent animators watching!
Maybe those guys that made an incredible little movie called ''SPACE COP'' can make this movie . Start the crowdfunding right now!!!!
They missed the obvious joke about the Predator using a walkie talkie
Apparently the deal with the Comanche dub is that before Disney bought out Fox they were going to have the movie in Comanche and dub it in English, but when Disney took over they told them no. So the dub is a compromise left over from that
Disney...of course.
Yep disney ruins things
I dont get why everyone suddenly wants this movie in a native american language. When there is a movie taking place in ancient greece or rome, nobody asks for a greek or latin dub version. Weird
@@Revan-eb1wb Comanche is an endangered language with only around 100 living speakers, and i know a lot of native fans of the film really appreciated the efforts for authenticity not just to appeal to white audiences, plus the Comanche nation worked hard to make the dub as accurate as possible versus the theatrical cut where it's english but awkwardly throws in comanche words
@@ninten360 and? Latin is a dead language and you do not see films or tv shows set in the roman empire on latin. Invalid argument of yours
You know Rich Evans was originally cast as Billy Sole in Predator, but he was so dangerous on set that Sonny Landham with his body guard was considered a safer option for the rest of the crew.
Behind Rich Evans' cheerful eyes is a hardened, cold mind that sees every colour of fear.
This is also why Jean Claude VanDamm quit the original film.
Also he was a sexual predator
@@Avatar_of_Chairness People think his laughter is genuine sentiment. It's just a gauge for him to figure out when others aren't paying attention... so he can... hunt.
As a matter of fact, "The 13th Warrior" is a John McTiernan-directed film too. I like it a lot to be honest, it has some kind of a vibe of adventure about it which is just great. A great family movie to watch together. :D
And Predator and The 13th Warrior are both a retelling of Beowulf
They were SO close to covering the Kevin McAlister vs Predator debate.
They NEED to get Mac in on that episode.
Kevin McAlister would just fucking die in the jungle before the predator even got to him.
You brought up clever language transitions in Prey and in Red October, AND you mentioned 13th Warrior. But 13th Warrior has one of the best language transitions I've ever seen on film. Come on! No mention? Not a perfect movie, but damn under-rated.
The dog can jump!
I loved 13th warrior.
The best language transition ive seen is everything everywhere all at once
@@Mythril_Pulaski I haven't seen that yet but I am looking forward to watching it
@@StuntedJubJub it's honey!
That Hunt for Red October language switch is the gold standard.
Really impressed with the old age makeup in this one. They're really going all out for the bit.
It’s a bit uncanny valley for me, bringing back performers who died some time ago. Frequently.
Okay the Mary Sioux thing did make me crack a smile.
It would be funny if she was a Mary Sue.
I watched this movie with my dad, and I didn't tell him it was a predator movie. We watched the original together since i was young. Was hoping the reveal would be delayed as long as possible but he knew once the predator was dropped off from his ship. Shit just got real he said delighted. 2 minutes after the movie ended, you guys posted this review.
So i wasn't the only one who hoped they'd reveal the Predator later in the story.
I liked that Predator arrived sooner. It gave time to establish how the Predator himself is a rookie and in an alien world hunting different animals trying to find worthy prey.
I think they spread his early appearances out well enough. The film might have been at risk if it leaned too much into the tribe stuff without seeing a Predator at all for too long. Getting very short and minor glimpses of him being around was probably the best way to go, and it takes a while before we see him properly anyway.
I'm going to watch this with my dad tomorrow, the original is the first movie I remember us renting when a video store opened in our town.
This is so heartwarming. Dudes rock.
The one thing I always heard about "predator lore" was that the less gadgets a predator used, the better they were considered in their society. Yet, basically every Predator movie is about an alien hunter armed to the teeth with brutal gadgets, so like every one of these guys was basically babytime. They all use a cloaking device, too, which seems like just the absolute biggest crutch, how good would they really do without it, I wonder.
It's a lore that's really at odds with the general premise of just having an alien that kills a bunch of people in cool ways.
Being able to be virtually invisible is probably better than any weapon.
The thing I took from Prey is that the Predators try to match the weapons of their enemy in combat. When he's fighting snakes, wolves, or bears he uses nothing but a claw. When the tribesmen start using spears and bows he starts using his projectile weapon, and when the trappers start blasting him with multiple muskets he pulls out all the stops and just starts annihilating them with alien tech (also kills the guy who netted him with that razor net, and when he steps in the bear trap, he also starts using that against the hunters as well).
This also tracks with why the soldiers in the original Predator get demolished. They are armed to the teeth, so the Predator can just go wild with his advanced weaponry and wreck them.
From that perspective, the Predator's death is kind of a karmic retribution for breaking his own code. He attempts to use his ranged weapon against an enemy that doesn't have any ranged weapons at her disposal, and ends up killing himself.
True, but maybe they sent all their aspiring rookies to Earth to learn the nuance of their craft and ‘if they’re any chop’ they’ll develop the skill set to merc all comers on all Worlds with naught but their retractable hand shanks.
….the guys they’re sending here aren’t the elite assassins. They’re not yet experienced enough to simply spawn on a planet like Earth with a basic load-out like final-form Billy, with nought but a giant machete and a some beef to address.
maybe sasquatch is the true predator
@@oblonghas apparently there is some porn literature to support this 😁
A good period piece for the Predator franchise would be the ancient Rome. For example the lost IX Legion in Caledonia. If Mike wants to see it battle an army (and win), it would be a perfect setting and a "what if" explanation of the 9th legion's disappearance
oh mannn i just want to see more historical predator films (or more historical horror/sci fi films in general)
Sounds awesome.
Wow, that's actually an awesome pitch
@Latch My name is Manimus Toxus Patriarchus , commandRESS of the Womyn of Entitled, GeneralESS of the Tampax Legions and NEVER a servant to the toxic, mansplaining, evil white emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father/Mother to a murdered They/Them, Husband to a murdered Non Binary Vegan POC. And I will have my 'equality', in this patriarchy or the next.
@Tater Tots 'have to be'? you know that the absolutely vast roman empire, which at its peak spanned 5 million square kilometres, had a lot of non-white people in it? it stretched from north-africa to the middle east, not to mention all the traders and travellers from other places. interestingly enough with the discussion of the ix legion who campaigned in roman britain, classicist mary beard highlights that quintus lollius urbicus, a black berber roman, was governor of britain only a couple of decades after the ix legion disappeared
point is, no, the case would not 'have to be white europeans', unless it had a very boring casting director
If this movie got the Apocalypto treatment it would have been incredible.
Apocalypto had the legit actor ethnicity, correct language used, live animals and occasional animatronics to avoid immersion-breaking CGI, and (most importantly) all genuine in-camera stuntwork that just looked incredible.
The language and CGI overuse detracted from the experience here, but it was still good overall.
I watched Apocalypto the day after I watched Prey and as much fun as Prey was Apocalypto's immersion and excitement kind of blew it out of the water
@@EmanAugust true but Apocalypto is also one of the best movies ever made tbh. I rate even above the OG Predator for immersive jungle manhunt movies heh
the fact that were comparing this to Apocalopto is a step up. Predator started out as B-movie schlock and whent downhill from there. Comparing it to triple-A masterpieces is pretty amazing lol
@@brandontaylor3874 It's not fair to compare things to Apocalypto. However, Predator is not a b-movie. In fact, it tries to make fun of b-movie schlock while also being one of the best creature features ever made. It also had revolutionary special effects for the time. Predator is awesome.
Apocalpyto > Predator > Prey > 70% of movies in existence.
Prey has a sun in the correct language
I can’t wait to watch this for the first time!
I think I'll watch this for the first time for the last time.
deja vu
regarding depicting language: coincidently "the 13th warrior" very cleverly has norse/germanic and greek then slowly transitions into english because Ahmad ibn Fadlan is a scholar from Baghdad (arguably the most advanced city in the world at the time) he listens and learns. an awesome underrated movie.
Such a good movie. I always buy extra copies if i find them in thrift stores so i can lend out to ppl that havent seen it
@@ericg1100 nice!
love it!
The Half in the Bag storyline is getting weird and I'm here for it
Getting weird?
Where have you been this whole time?
@TrippyTheShroom @@zachryder3150 um i think that was part of the joke.
This is low-level weird compared to so many other storylines
It's been 11 years, you've only _now_ realized this?
The studios *believe* that people wouldn't want to watch a movie about comanches in the comanche language. God forbid they experimented a little bit and just tried to find out, if we actually like it. It literally fucks my suspension of disbelief, when natives from the 1700s speak modern English, especially when Naru said about the Predator "I won't let the Big Guy sniff my hair!". Come on, man!
"Apocalypto" was a box office success, so they have no real excuse. And frankly, there shouldn't be that much dialogue in a film like this anyway. Half of the first film was just Arnold grunting alone in the jungle, because everyone else was dead by then.
While I didn't necessarily mind them speaking english, a Comanche version subtitled with English would have been so much better. You're right that they should have taken a risk, because I've seen a lot of people saying they would have much preferred seeing the movie filmed in Comanche to really help the immersion out.
@@consistentlystupid4726 Courageously sticking to the recipe really doesn't help!
@@Fedorevsky Just get this vocal coach who is all over UA-cam, right!? Like how long does it take to teach an actor to pronounce words correctly?
You guys should do a Re:view of Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Seriously trips me out that its his film, people have complained about some historical inaccuracies of the Mayan culture in the film, but Gibson was incredibly commited into an all indigenous cast and in entirely the Mayan language. Art direction is some of the best I've ever seen with cool costumes, jungle locations and gigantic practical sets. Sounds to me like its the type of film Jay wanted Prey to be where it has enough grit to not feel like it was shot this century its incredibly immersive.
It may not be that accurate, but if you know a film that better shows that culture as it might have been, I'd unsarcastically love to see it.
@callmecatalyst you're commenting on a video of a story of a thousand pound space gorilla-lizard guy with laser beams coming to america to hunt bears and native americans
lol and the phrase "weirdly pro- Mel Gibson still"-- i'm supposed to believe someone throwing in phrases like that is coming from a politically neutral stance here? you're gonna try and pretend that you're the normal unbiased commenter? Yeah ok. the guy just said he liked Mel's Apocalypto, didn't say shit about the man himself. I think you are the one with an axe to grind and not him, it seems a lot more like you are "weirdly anti-Mel Gibson" than the OP being "weirdly pro-Mel".
@callmecatalyst People are allowed to like things you don't like.
@callmecatalyst In IMDb, I seem to have given *Apocalypto* (2006) an 8/10. IMDb score seems to be: *7.8/10* (better than Prey...).
Rotten Tomatoes is not what it used to be, especially Tomatometer, which has become a sad meme. Anyways, the less sus Audience Score is *79 %.*
PS.
If someone somewhere makes a movie, and I actually think it's a good movie, then I say it's a good movie. Simple as that.
When you're just being honest, you don't have to worry about cringy, dishonest, illogical and ever-changing rules. _"Yeah, but from nowon you're not supposed to like that movie, f*cking idiot!"_
@callmecatalyst Oh no he took some artistic license....its the end of the world...It was fine...watching a Hollywood film for the historical accuracy is just silly...it sounds like you just have a grudge against Gibson...
The weapons were simpler because the predator was playing up or down to its prey. It took on the bear with only a blade. It used a predator version of a bow and arrow, spear, etc.
Exactly. They always do this. It's all about the challenge for them.
I'm surprised that there was no mention that the director makes fun at themselves with the post credit bit, they made 10 cloverfield lane and everyone was like 'its great up until the spaceship shows up' so in this film it ends right before spaceships show up haha.
I didn't know that was a 10 Cloverfield Lane reference, I just thought it explained how the predators had that same pistol in Predator 2.
@@ZUIKMedia probably not a reference for 10 cloverfield lane, but it made me chuckle.
@@ZUIKMedia I think there was actually a Predator comic that explained the pistol, which was about pirates.
How hot is my take if I actually liked the entirety of 10CL including the alien bullshit at the end?
That;s pretty forced, especially as you see a spaceship in the first 10 minutes of the movie.
Didn't the predator walk past Naru because of her lowered body temperature from the orange flower herbs? The Frenchman (who gave her the pistol) was fed the same orange herbs by Naru and the predator saw his body as cold and probably thought he was a corpse. I like the prey symbolism, I'm just confused.
You are correct.
that doesn't make any sense especially when she standing up. i mean the predator can still see ur outline. so why did the predetor walk by her
@@Scrabble007 ask the director, that was exactly what happened
No you're correct, the Predator initially ignored her for being prey but when it came for the fat legless beard guy she was using the flowers to drop her temperature
@@Scrabble007 She was practically a bush and Predator had his eyes on the heated meat with a rifle aiming at him.
I want a different twist of this story. A comanche man that wants to do what the women do. He is 300 pounds of pure muscle, but wants to search for herbs and knit.
The women of the tribe mock him, and tell him to go back to hunting. "Bring me a buffalo!" they scream at him. His hands are too big and he cannot knit the more delicate fabrics. His father ask him "Why do you want to knit, son?" and he responds whispering: "... because they told me I can't".
Then... the predator appears! all the men are out hunting or dead and he and the women must hide. They devise a plan, but requires a big and strong net that must be done that night. "We cannot knit this net in time, our hands are too small!" one woman say. "We need... bigger hands". The camera pans to our hero. Thanks to the powerful net he makes, they manage to capture and kill the predator.
At the end, he is the first man to have a croning ceremony.
And all the women have to die so the man can learn the preds weaknesses.
I cried at the end
A heroes journey
That's a reference to an old thing.
Also it's "croning" rather than crowning.
@@Tetragrammaton22 thanks, I wasn't sure.
@@Antillles That just means you have to go back and watch the entire Best of the Worst playlist again.
Actually, originally the movie was supposed to be shot all in Comanchee, and then the study insisted on changing it.
Which I honestly think was the wrong choice. This movie will be forgotten in a year. If it had been all in a native American language, that would have had some staying power.
Yes, the general audience doesn‘t like reading subtitles… but if you dub it anyway, make English the dub, and Comanchee the original!
Loved the contrast at the 30min mark for Prey. She can't kill a rabbit and the Predator kills a wolf that just killed a rabbit, showing the gap between them in the beginning. I know it's already pretty obvious but it was a nice touch.
She also carries a hatchet on a string that she uses later, was nice to see that payoff
20 minutes in
She can’t kill rabbit
Next shot: can’t kill rabbit
Next shot: can’t kill rabbit
Next shot: adds a string… genocides a rabbit family.
45 minutes later…
Enters ultra instinct and dodges and kills five large, heavy French men with ease. Also, she was maimed the day before with the trap and is fine, not even a limp.
@@MLedZeppelinZoSoA The Rotten Tomatos review Mike read was accurate.
@@ahoyforsenchou7288 ?
Thought it was a bit on the nose
I think they should make a shot for shot remake of the original Predator, the only twist being that it's actually an elite group of Predators getting systematically hunted down by Riddick, as portrayed by the illustrious Vin Diesel
Riddick should be doing an escort as well (like Pitch Black), maybe Newt from Aliens?
"They mostly come out of the mud, mostly"
Can we somehow get Blade involved with this? 🤔
You know what
I really have to disagree, removing the full frontal nudity from the original video was the wrong move boys
😂 For that you have to visit Half in the Bag: After Dark
Is that why they removed the video earlier? I was so confused I was watching it and all of the sudden goes private lol
13th warrior is an incredible movie.
Really have to applaud the editing in this episode, a truly silly number of deep cut clips for this one