What a treasure this dear lady is. Always so well-informed, perception and honest. A national intellectual asset. With deep gratitude to her years of work and insight I saw a very big thank you.... extending to BizNews and Alec Hogg for giving her a platform that can give so many more the privilege of being able to hear what she has to say.
Well said. Unfortunately we have fewer and fewer people in our country doing this type of quality of work. These people are at the front of our fight to take back our country and freedoms.
her book the "people's war" should be read in all South African schools. it legit changed my mind on everything I thought I knew about south African history. encouraged me to really study our history.
Unfortunately thirty years later comrades rushing to fill their pockets could not care less about others, evil has been allowed to thrive in South Africa the consequences can be seen on a daily basis in society. South Africa as a diversity experiment has failed on so many levels.
Sadly this is the truth. Add to that their full alliance with designated terrorist groups and their position as legal and diplomatic proxy for the regime in Iran and the mind boggles at the depths to which the ANC is prepared to plunge South Africa. Cry the beloved country.
Very doubtful. The only use the socialists have for history is as a weapon. Truth, in their view, is relative to whomever wields the power, as demonstrated by Stalin. And besides, Msimang likely knows exactly how well the ANC has done (for themselves) and that the plight of the vast majority of South Africans, including the lower echelons of ignorant and indoctrinated cadres, are essentially irrelevant to their goals (of self-enrichment). Informed people who can see patterns in history are an inconvenience that must either be silenced by force or shamed into self-censorship. I believe the one common attribute of all socialists is that they don't actually care for the wellbeing of society at all. They only care about superficial validation and getting something for doing nothing.
Thanks for sharing your insights Dr Jeffreys. I believe the socialists and the ANC regime are also accidental alies. They ANC found a helping hand in the soviet union during the apartheid era. We know ANC regime values loyalty above everything else, hence the strong ties with Moscow today.
This is the first time that the absolute shamelessnes of the ANC government has been coherently explained. It clearly provides a breeding ground and safe haven for psychopaths. We are in so much trouble 🙈
South Africa media are just like politicians all they do is gossip. We need media that will teach people about these politics systems. Otherwise people will make mistakes by voting these systems.
The most important driver of the apartheid regime policies was, leaders who foresaw these issues coming down the line.The consequences of the ANC regime’s policies will make colonialism look like a Sunday School Picnic
@@018Greg I highly doubt that.... As if everyone has equal ownership of the land... As if everyone has equal resources and production facilities 🙄.... When you said everyone I perhaps like to think of those people. The owners
@biko8229, you usurp ing land ownership, which you never had. All you have is your brain, which is about time, you put it to good use. Maybe than you can became land owner one day...😴
Ja-ja Alec. I hope Anthea’s answer put paid to the Russia/Putin is pulling theANC’s strings. I’m surprised that no mention is made of SA’s role in BRICS and the divide that emerged in SA between political support for BRICS on the one hand and the West on the other. In my opinion, if we’re ’re not careful, we could end up being a battleground between these two competing global forces just like Ukraine.
She talks about not being naive , and to that I have always said that De Klerk was the one who even we all wanted apartheid to go before there a civil war broke out and when he negotiated in good faith with the ANC I said that they were bullshitting him and they only wanted power and once they had it they would follow their own agenda and I used to say that they painted themselves into a corner with their supposed acceptance of Democracy and that eventually they would need to make a plan of getting out of the corner . We can now see their forcing of the land expropriation and the other acts that are being hurried thru parliament such as the schools , water act and even Eskom that is being used to weaken the economic power of the whites in the country , they believe that their people will have to endure a struggle to achieve economic empowerment and they will use every tool no matter the consequences to achieve this .
I think too few people realise that WW2 Nazi ideoloogy morphed into the idea of the EU and Brussels type of socialism That is why, when international socialism collapsed in 1990 in Russia no one noticed the EU socialist vultures that Putin had to destroy to save Russia, Hence the hatred for Putin displayed by the EU and NATO today, It is the rivalry between two forms of communism ,none of them working, that is the cause of the weird politics as well as the threat of nuclear war that is the driving force for world domination today. That is what the ANC was working towards, but they backed the wrong horse.
An important insight - Russia 🇷🇺 is not the Soviet Union and NATO and the EU are not benign organisations. They are tyrannical together with left run governments in the Americas.
Gov's with socialist ideologies who failed to keep track of Russian economic development after the fall of the Berlin Wall, managed themselves into a stand still. Subsaharan Africa succeeded in maintaining economic growth between 2-6%. The economy of SA became stationary with less than 1% growth. Policies relying on social grants, massive international loans, a dwindling tax base + international investors leaving the country in droves is a recipe with no winners.
Academic integrity is observed in all spheres at all times, that is until the subject is socialism/communism. How do you reconcile BEE, privatization & socialism or a drive towards socialism?
Suggestion for moderation of capitalism 1. Providers of capital to any business have a maximum ROI of 20%, per annum 2. Maxim salary in any company be capped at 10 Million per annum , which includes performance incentives . 3. The balance of free cash flow to be retained in the business with 30% of this, distributed to all employees in proportion to their individual salary as a % of the total salary bill. 4. All companies to pay 10% of their pretax profits into a skills development fund for their staff, to be used to up skill all non graduate and/or all non managerial employees. 5. All the base line numbers ( except investors ROI which has a fixed cap ) to increase no more than the CPI index each year. 6. The personal tax rate have a maximum of 30% and a minimum of 5%. 7. Government to be as small and efficient as possible, with accountability and consequences for non-performance 8. Theft of public funds for self enrichment to carry a 25 year jail sentence, without parole, for all parties involved in the looting via BBBEE inflated tenders awarded to entities without the expertise to execute the contracts.
The problem with the governance of any country is politics. It is no different to religion and has no place in the welfare of a countries governance. The entire system needs to go. Let competent individuals who have no cultish belief systems administer the running of a country. If an individual is an activist they should disqualify. If an individual has a political belief system they should be disqualified. It is purely logistics and administration. Why are we using this antiquated and destructive system to administer the services which countries need. Governments should function like civil society organisations. Let's see how much politicians like actually doing the work on the ground instead of their desire to hold power and get paid eye watering salaries. I would vote for Capexit if it meant that it would not fall under communist ideology
😮...😢....😂.....Thank you, now that we know.... Whad is the remedial legal action 🎬 😎 to bring justice of the ills/evils of the post apartheid ,especially to the majority of the poor of the poorest 😢..... From SouthAfrica
Things in South Africa will get much, much worse...before it gets...even worse than that....Get out while you can. If you cannot, I feel very sorry for you....BBBEE afraid...BBBEE very, very afraid....
I think it's not good advice to encourage people to "get out". We need to encourage all citizen to vote socialism out of union building. Let's educated the masses
@@AmoMoëti agree. Taxpayers that have left are making it easier for the ANC and EFF to 'win'... Imagine being educated and smart and unable to beat communists... 🤣
The ANC is not a merely socialist organisation, but a Communist organisation, and always has been. In his “State and Revolution”, Lenin wrote “socialism is just the lower phase of communism used to facilitate true communist purity which is its highest phase. Karl Marx believed socialism was the easiest road to pure Communism.” "The Rise of the Marxist Man It is a terrible and awesome thing when a man sets out to create all other men in his own image. Such became the goal and all consuming ambition of Karl Marx. Not that he would have made each man equal to himself; in fact, it was quite the contrary. The image he hoped to construct was a great human colossus with Karl Marx as the brain and builder and all other men serving him as the ears and eyes, feet and hands, mouth and gullet. In other words, Marx surveyed the world and dreamed of the day when the whole body of humanity could be forced into a gigantic social image which conformed completely to Marx's dream of a perfect society. To achieve his goal, Marx required two things: First, the total annihilation of all opposition, the downfall of all existing governments, all economies and all societies. "Then," he wrote, "I shall stride through the wreckage a creator!" The second thing he needed was a new kind of human being. He visualized a regimented breed of Pavlovian men whose minds could be triggered into immediate action by signals from their masters. He wanted a race of men who would no longer depend upon free will, ethics, morals or conscience for guidance. Perhaps, without quite realizing it, Marx was setting out to create a race of human beings conditioned to think like criminals. Producing such a race had been the dream of power-hungry men for more than 4000 years. Nimrod had projected the design, Plato polished it, Saint Simon sublimated it - now Marx materialized it. Today this breed of criminally conditioned man walks the earth in sufficient numbers to conquer countries or continents, to change laws and boundaries, to decree war or peace. He might well be called Homo-Marxian -- the Marxist Man. He has made it terribly clear that he intends to become the man of the twentieth century." - The Naked Communist by W.Cleon Skousen
It is not always possible to know what is meant when policies are called socialism . Socialism simply means “ ownership of the means of production and distribution must be by the society “ . Such an economic system has never existed and is likely impossible while states exist , if at all. Marxist Leninism is not socialism . Under this system the means of production and distribution are owed by the state and controlled by the “ party “ , the self appointed guardians of the proletariat. A more correct description of such a system is state capitalism . The benefit of the economic surplus being for the “ party “ . If the state owns everything it should be called radical state capitalism. All societies display a degree of state capitalism. We know from experience that centrally planned economies have proved to be disasters for a number of reason not the least being that they have been totally undemocratic and for the benefit of the self appointed guardians namely the party . At the base of any Marxist policy is class . In South Africa class has been replaced by race and therefore the policies of the ANC are not even Marxist.
I am tempted to say this is one of the most myopic political economists i have heard in South Africa. You are promoting a narrative whose days are ao numbered it is incomprehensible why you qould atill be holding on to the illusion that this marrative will hold for another 12 months...
What a diverse audience😂😂 Socialism is very similar to the principle of uBuntu so we are naturally gravitating towards ourselves and that should be a good thing for all of us. We should not listen to apartheid beneficiaries and colonisers as we choose policy.
@@janineroux2398 We honestly don't expect you to understand. Fortunately people who think like you are in the minority. Political parties like MK and EFF are growing particularly because of their socialist policies. Remember EFF student command is leading in most universities since 2023.
@@biko8229"you won't understand" does not constitute a logical argument. Not to worry , it can be remediated by you making an effort to read a book by someone or perhaps several people unencumbered by lazy grafting and a great deal of envy and self loathing whilst being replete with what seems to be ever elusive here self-respect and responsibility.
Every single time socialism has been tried it has failed miserably. The South African government has already shown it cannot run state owned entities, why do you want to give them more control when they've failed so miserably with everything they control so far? @@biko8229
This woman is an avid right winger who clearly misinterprets the SAn constitution to her prejudicial leanings. The constitution clearly states that redress is a necessary mechanism to achieve equality 2ndly, EE act is legislation and the Concourt has ruled on that
Thank you, Alec Hogg and Anthea Jeffrey for bringing these matters into the public arena.
What a treasure this dear lady is. Always so well-informed, perception and honest. A national intellectual asset. With deep gratitude to her years of work and insight I saw a very big thank you.... extending to BizNews and Alec Hogg for giving her a platform that can give so many more the privilege of being able to hear what she has to say.
Well said. Unfortunately we have fewer and fewer people in our country doing this type of quality of work. These people are at the front of our fight to take back our country and freedoms.
I am tempted to say that this is the smartest political economist I have heard in South Africa. If I met her I would kiss her feet.
her book the "people's war" should be read in all South African schools.
it legit changed my mind on everything I thought I knew about south African history. encouraged me to really study our history.
I have read “People’s War” - it is truly outstanding & I agree that it should be compulsory reading in all schools in SA.
@@sharonadams9721 I've seriously expanded on it in my research, also a great one is war on the reef by Gary Kynock
Hope that the information that Anthea has provided motivates people to vote for a positive change.
20:12 - Holy shit. This explains Hamas' entire strategy.
Woe -We need our leaders to take up the issues raised here and use them to improve the lot of the common man in South Africa - Thank you Dr Jeffrry
Absolutely brilliant!
Much respect and honour Anthea.
Unfortunately thirty years later comrades rushing to fill their pockets could not care less about others, evil has been allowed to thrive in South Africa the consequences can be seen on a daily basis in society. South Africa as a diversity experiment has failed on so many levels.
😂 evil came here from Europe and Dutch colonial savages
Sadly this is the truth. Add to that their full alliance with designated terrorist groups and their position as legal and diplomatic proxy for the regime in Iran and the mind boggles at the depths to which the ANC is prepared to plunge South Africa. Cry the beloved country.
Very informative.....we've lived a lie in SA since 1994.
No, not 1994, but since 1955 when the SACP infiltrated and captured the ANC.
Zuma, Ramaphosa and Malema - the looting alliance.
Ramaphosa won't survive these elections. It'll be Mashatile.
I hope Mavuso Msimang is listening. He needs to update his knowledge on RSA history.
Clearly you didn't😂
@@WalterWhite-bc8ck . Clearly you never opened a history book on RSA.
Very doubtful. The only use the socialists have for history is as a weapon. Truth, in their view, is relative to whomever wields the power, as demonstrated by Stalin. And besides, Msimang likely knows exactly how well the ANC has done (for themselves) and that the plight of the vast majority of South Africans, including the lower echelons of ignorant and indoctrinated cadres, are essentially irrelevant to their goals (of self-enrichment). Informed people who can see patterns in history are an inconvenience that must either be silenced by force or shamed into self-censorship. I believe the one common attribute of all socialists is that they don't actually care for the wellbeing of society at all. They only care about superficial validation and getting something for doing nothing.
Great interview.
Absolutely great, thank you ❤
Insightful indeed.
Thanks for sharing your insights Dr Jeffreys. I believe the socialists and the ANC regime are also accidental alies. They ANC found a helping hand in the soviet union during the apartheid era. We know ANC regime values loyalty above everything else, hence the strong ties with Moscow today.
Interview. Anthea is surely the mos knowledgeable from every one I heard!
This is the first time that the absolute shamelessnes of the ANC government has been coherently explained. It clearly provides a breeding ground and safe haven for psychopaths. We are in so much trouble 🙈
South AFRICA was in trouble the day MANDELA the CHAMELEON, was released from prison
Alec! - great guest!- Alec!- no hope!- Alec!- big trouble!
South Africa media are just like politicians all they do is gossip. We need media that will teach people about these politics systems. Otherwise people will make mistakes by voting these systems.
What is the final target of the ANC ? Are we nearly there or is rock bottom the final destination?
Rock bottom is the goal. Ones that happened the little that is left will also be sold to the highest bidder.
The most important driver of the apartheid regime policies was, leaders who foresaw these issues coming down the line.The consequences of the ANC regime’s policies will make colonialism look like a Sunday School Picnic
For the colonizer? Or the colonised?😢
@@WalterWhite-bc8ck For EVERYONE and there are no colonisers at this stage. Ridiculous thinking to suggest otherwise.
@@018Greg I highly doubt that.... As if everyone has equal ownership of the land... As if everyone has equal resources and production facilities 🙄....
When you said everyone I perhaps like to think of those people. The owners
@@018Greg Don't try to rewrite history, we know who the colonisers are and they continue to occupy our land.
Do you speak any African languages?
@biko8229, you usurp ing land ownership, which you never had. All you have is your brain, which is about time, you put it to good use. Maybe than you can became land owner one day...😴
What a great speaker
Big business lost the plot by not resisting the AA and BEE and adopting a more rational approach to empowering people and not just for cadre's.
Truth after truth after truth.
Tainted heros a must watch too
Ja-ja Alec. I hope Anthea’s answer put paid to the Russia/Putin is pulling theANC’s strings.
I’m surprised that no mention is made of SA’s role in BRICS and the divide that emerged in SA between political support for BRICS on the one hand and the West on the other.
In my opinion, if we’re ’re not careful, we could end up being a battleground between these two competing global forces just like Ukraine.
Wow what a amazing lady
She talks about not being naive , and to that I have always said that De Klerk was the one who even we all wanted apartheid to go before there a civil war broke out and when he negotiated in good faith with the ANC I said that they were bullshitting him and they only wanted power and once they had it they would follow their own agenda and I used to say that they painted themselves into a corner with their supposed acceptance of Democracy and that eventually they would need to make a plan of getting out of the corner . We can now see their forcing of the land expropriation and the other acts that are being hurried thru parliament such as the schools , water act and even Eskom that is being used to weaken the economic power of the whites in the country , they believe that their people will have to endure a struggle to achieve economic empowerment and they will use every tool no matter the consequences to achieve this .
I think too few people realise that WW2 Nazi ideoloogy morphed into the idea of the EU and Brussels type of socialism That is why, when international socialism collapsed in 1990 in Russia no one noticed the EU socialist vultures that Putin had to destroy to save Russia, Hence the hatred for Putin displayed by the EU and NATO today, It is the rivalry between two forms of communism ,none of them working, that is the cause of the weird politics as well as the threat of nuclear war that is the driving force for world domination today. That is what the ANC was working towards, but they backed the wrong horse.
An important insight - Russia 🇷🇺 is not the Soviet Union and NATO and the EU are not benign organisations. They are tyrannical together with left run governments in the Americas.
"There's room for pushback!"
Citizen concerned youtube channel beware of the comrades
ANC that's we're went wrong
Gov's with socialist ideologies who failed to keep track of Russian economic development after the fall of the Berlin Wall, managed themselves into a stand still. Subsaharan Africa succeeded in maintaining economic growth between 2-6%.
The economy of SA became stationary with less than 1% growth. Policies relying on social grants, massive international loans, a dwindling tax base + international investors leaving the country in droves is a recipe with no winners.
A global scholar 👍👍
The 360 experience youtube channel beware beware beware
Wow such diverse audience we have here😂
😂😂😂Lilly white
You two zombies have just shown that you think diversity is based on skin colour and not on thought. The EFF depends on zombies like you two.
I am blown away
Academic integrity is observed in all spheres at all times, that is until the subject is socialism/communism. How do you reconcile BEE, privatization & socialism or a drive towards socialism?
If the Multi Party Charter wins the election. There will be hope.
Suggestion for moderation of capitalism 1. Providers of capital to any business have a maximum ROI of 20%, per annum 2. Maxim salary in any company be capped at 10 Million per annum , which includes performance incentives . 3. The balance of free cash flow to be retained in the business with 30% of this, distributed to all employees in proportion to their individual salary as a % of the total salary bill. 4. All companies to pay 10% of their pretax profits into a skills development fund for their staff, to be used to up skill all non graduate and/or all non managerial employees. 5. All the base line numbers ( except investors ROI which has a fixed cap ) to increase no more than the CPI index each year. 6. The personal tax rate have a maximum of 30% and a minimum of 5%. 7. Government to be as small and efficient as possible, with accountability and consequences for non-performance 8. Theft of public funds for self enrichment to carry a 25 year jail sentence, without parole, for all parties involved in the looting via BBBEE inflated tenders awarded to entities without the expertise to execute the contracts.
The problem with the governance of any country is politics. It is no different to religion and has no place in the welfare of a countries governance. The entire system needs to go. Let competent individuals who have no cultish belief systems administer the running of a country. If an individual is an activist they should disqualify. If an individual has a political belief system they should be disqualified. It is purely logistics and administration. Why are we using this antiquated and destructive system to administer the services which countries need. Governments should function like civil society organisations. Let's see how much politicians like actually doing the work on the ground instead of their desire to hold power and get paid eye watering salaries. I would vote for Capexit if it meant that it would not fall under communist ideology
That sounds a good idea - run the country just like a business. I have also had a similar ideas.
Sounds like something the CP would have endorsed in the eighties.😂
Interesting perspective from the Right , BEE has been a complete flop and should be scrapped, there is a need to balance things though.
And why?
😮...😢....😂.....Thank you, now that we know....
Whad is the remedial legal action 🎬 😎 to bring justice of the ills/evils of the post apartheid ,especially to the majority of the poor of the poorest 😢.....
From SouthAfrica
Things in South Africa will get much, much worse...before it gets...even worse than that....Get out while you can. If you cannot, I feel very sorry for you....BBBEE afraid...BBBEE very, very afraid....
The average person, even blacks don't subscribe to socialism.
😂😂🤣
I think it's not good advice to encourage people to "get out". We need to encourage all citizen to vote socialism out of union building. Let's educated the masses
@@AmoMoëti agree. Taxpayers that have left are making it easier for the ANC and EFF to 'win'... Imagine being educated and smart and unable to beat communists... 🤣
@@AmoMoëti The vast majority will vote for socialism
Wow
The ANC is not a merely socialist organisation, but a Communist organisation, and always has been. In his “State and Revolution”, Lenin wrote “socialism is just the lower phase of communism used to facilitate true communist purity which is its highest phase. Karl Marx believed socialism was the easiest road to pure Communism.”
"The Rise of the Marxist Man
It is a terrible and awesome thing when a man sets out to create all other men in his own image. Such became the goal and all consuming ambition of Karl Marx. Not that he would have made each man equal to himself; in fact, it was quite the contrary. The image he hoped to construct was a great human colossus with Karl Marx as the brain and builder and all other men serving him as the ears and eyes, feet and hands, mouth and gullet.
In other words, Marx surveyed the world and dreamed of the day when the whole body of humanity could be forced into a gigantic social image which conformed completely to Marx's dream of a perfect society.
To achieve his goal, Marx required two things: First, the total annihilation of all opposition, the downfall of all existing governments, all economies and all societies. "Then," he wrote, "I shall stride through the wreckage a creator!"
The second thing he needed was a new kind of human being. He visualized a regimented breed of Pavlovian men whose minds could be triggered into immediate action by signals from their masters. He wanted a race of men who would no longer depend upon free will, ethics, morals or conscience for guidance.
Perhaps, without quite realizing it, Marx was setting out to create a race of human beings conditioned to think like criminals. Producing such a race had been the dream of power-hungry men for more than 4000 years. Nimrod had projected the design, Plato polished it, Saint Simon sublimated it - now Marx materialized it.
Today this breed of criminally conditioned man walks the earth in sufficient numbers to conquer countries or continents, to change laws and boundaries, to decree war or peace.
He might well be called Homo-Marxian -- the Marxist Man. He has made it terribly clear that he intends to become the man of the twentieth century." - The Naked Communist by W.Cleon Skousen
But the USSR does not exist anymore. And Russia is not socialist
Not much difference between socialism and communism and Putin has a huge influence in Africa especially South Africa, wake up dud you are sleeping
BELA bill is doing completely the opposite of whatcis suggested atvthe endvof this conversation
another "red under every bed"!!!!
It is not always possible to know what is meant when policies are called socialism . Socialism simply means “ ownership of the means of production and distribution must be by the society “ . Such an economic system has never existed and is likely impossible while states exist , if at all. Marxist Leninism is not socialism . Under this system the means of production and distribution are owed by the state and controlled by the “ party “ , the self appointed guardians of the proletariat. A more correct description of such a system is state capitalism . The benefit of the economic surplus being for the “ party “ . If the state owns everything it should be called radical state capitalism. All societies display a degree of state capitalism. We know from experience that centrally planned economies have proved to be disasters for a number of reason not the least being that they have been totally undemocratic and for the benefit of the self appointed guardians namely the party . At the base of any Marxist policy is class . In South Africa class has been replaced by race and therefore the policies of the ANC are not even Marxist.
49 Minutes listening to absolute Bile😵💫
Truth a bitter pill 💊
I am tempted to say this is one of the most myopic political economists i have heard in South Africa. You are promoting a narrative whose days are ao numbered it is incomprehensible why you qould atill be holding on to the illusion that this marrative will hold for another 12 months...
What a diverse audience😂😂
Socialism is very similar to the principle of uBuntu so we are naturally gravitating towards ourselves and that should be a good thing for all of us. We should not listen to apartheid beneficiaries and colonisers as we choose policy.
What is uBuntu about those in power stealing EVERYTHING from everybody else, and impoverishing them and making their lives a misery?
Ubuntu doesn't exist
@@janineroux2398 We honestly don't expect you to understand. Fortunately people who think like you are in the minority. Political parties like MK and EFF are growing particularly because of their socialist policies.
Remember EFF student command is leading in most universities since 2023.
@@biko8229"you won't understand" does not constitute a logical argument. Not to worry , it can be remediated by you making an effort to read a book by someone or perhaps several people unencumbered by lazy grafting and a great deal of envy and self loathing whilst being replete with what seems to be ever elusive here self-respect and responsibility.
Every single time socialism has been tried it has failed miserably. The South African government has already shown it cannot run state owned entities, why do you want to give them more control when they've failed so miserably with everything they control so far? @@biko8229
This woman is an avid right winger who clearly misinterprets the SAn constitution to her prejudicial leanings.
The constitution clearly states that redress is a necessary mechanism to achieve equality
2ndly, EE act is legislation and the Concourt has ruled on that
scary old woman
Very interesting facts. I also listen to Frans Cronje.
The WESTERN cape is mainly WHITE...