Model Flyball Governors Steam Engine TIPS 564 tubalcain banggood
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Model Flyball Governors Steam Engine
Checkout these brass governors at Banggood.com.
In this vid , I demonstrate two different model flyball steam engine governors.
Microcosm P30 Mini Steam Engine Flyball Governor -- bit.ly/2L3JZtA
Microcosm P60 Mini Steam Engine Flyball Governor Part Accessories -- bit.ly/2ZArXCx
Later, I used my DEWALT battery drill--it worked much better.
#wkatdoesballsoutmean#howdosteamgovernorswork
I'd love to see them in action on a model!
Me too!
You've got to quit taunting me with you being 75 yrars old. I met you at the meet and greet and your 75 years young. Keep going young man.
You know that everyone is going to want to see them in actual use....😀.....thanks for the video...
My friend was just talking about someone repairing the governor on his gas lawnmower. My friend is a good mechanic, but even he didn't know about speed governors. I intend to send him your video.
Nicely done!
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I have been interested in everyone of your videos that i have seen. I wish i would not have been so hard headed and started watching youtube when you started making these videos. Instead i started this youtube journey about a year ago and I only discovered your channel a couple of months ago. You must have been a extraordinary shop teacher.
Thank you very much
75 years old and not always in the mood ?… I'm 71 myself and I've never been always one the mood !…
Thanks fo t posting !
And keep the good mood with you !…
Cheers !…
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YOUR old ass tools deserve their own episode! Love em
A guy a work would sometimes use the term "running balls out" when we would have to catch up. A another younger member of the team wasn't familiar with it and had another image in mind...
Gorgeous craftsmanship on the governors. I've been hobby machining for about a 18 months and am about to complete my first steam engine build.
This video is of the same high quality to which your - very jaded - followers are accustomed...WE cannot be bothered with anything less. Thank you mrPete.
Thanks
I do really like the way how You teach your knowledge to people. Always clear and understandable, with a proper method that brings your class to get there by listening, watching, asking and, mainly thinking. It's always a pleasure watching your videos. I live in London (UK) in a sad flat. Looking forward to move somewhere else (larger and quite for God sake!!) and buy myself a lathe and a milling machine to have fun again. That satisfaction in watching works getting done is incomparable. God bless you Tubalcain, keep going!!!
Thank you very much. I hope you get yourself a shop.
Good morning. These governors are simple but beautiful, and genius in design. I would like to see them in a real practical application with a steam engine. I first saw governors like these but on a larger scale being used on Jay Leno’s show. Nice mechanics!
I've seen them on larger steam engines but had no idea how they worked. Thank you for the educational video. Greatly appreciated!
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I saw one of these at a local show installed on a model engine. Unfortunately it was just screwed in for looks and not steamed. They are the neatest thing since sliced bread! He allowed me to hold it in my hands and inspect it, turn it and even drool over it. I agree with you, the machining is over the top and holding one all I could say was "you paid how much, is that all!?!" It would be wonderful to see one installed on an actual working model. Thank you in advance if you can.
I'm here from Jay Lenos videk today (5/10/21). The engineering and thought put into these really is genius.
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Mr. Pete,
I’ve always been fascinated by steam governors. Just watching them spin to regulate the valve captures me. I watched Dave Richards channel awhile back where he was restoring an ancient governor. Seeing him dismantle the thing was awesome and then his solution for replacing the flat springs was genius. Dave doesn’t always go with what’s “according to Hoyle”. He does what works for him and his steam powered shop.
According to the number of comments it looks like your gonna have to bite the bullet and get that three ball going “balls out” on one of your models.
What a neat idea!
Thank you for sharing these wonderful little items!
Keep up the good work!
You have taught me so much!
If only you had been my shop teacher when I was in school!
Cannot say enough good about your superlative videos!
As a boy, vacation time was always mixed with museum going. A one of them, possibly the Ford museum in Dearborn, MI, I asked my Dad "what’s that ?", and I’ll never forget him saying: “That’s a governor!”. Thanks for the video, loved it!!!! Also… glad to know that Banggood of China produces some quality stuff, at a reasonable price.
Thank you, I loved The Ford Museum
I put one of these on my 2 inch square steam engine. I had to bore the line out bigger. You can see it in action on my channel.
Thanks Mr Pete for the inspiration to take on such a project.
Thank you, I will check that out
Haha. I never knew that this is where the term "balls out", originated from. That's great. Thank you.
Haven't been interested in steam engines since I was a boy. You make them interesting again.
..........." and at lower speed the balls are down and in a relaxed position, but as i speed it up they will swing out " interesting very very interesting . Mr pete you are my hero !
You certainly have my vote! Would love to see how a governor can be adapted. That 2 cylinder reversing engine by Cliff is a clever design. Looks like a solid build that would be able to start from any angle of rotation.
Thanks Mr. Pete. Good video on the governors. I had a hazy conception of how they worked so this was educational. Yes, if you have time, put them in action.
yes, video on the mounting of the governors. I had no idea "Balls out" was a reference to the Steam era engines running at speed. Thanks for posting.
Balls out, and balls to the walls, are two sometimes misunderstood terms. LOL Greatly enjoyed this video. Those look to be well made ball governors.
I bought the 3 ball design from Banggood, the components are all first class, yet I considered it a kit. I drilled out both steam ports to enlarge them and tapped and installed a larger bronze valve seat on bottom of spindle. The 4 screws and holes can be reattached in any position. I carefully cut the spring out and installed another that was more sensitive. There were many trials and errors in this process but I got it all dialed in and have it mounted directly on top the steam chest of my Stuart No. 9 it is now a fine working governor.
That is all very good information and thank you for it. That is good to know, as I am sure I will need to modify it. It's interesting that you have it mounted on a number nine with Stewart. I thought the opening seemed mighty small
Please, please, please install these on your models! Governers are really cool, and an essential part of a steam engine. As someone who's done a little bit of controls with modern tools (PID controllers, etc), it's awesome to see the same thing accomplished mechanically.
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Great video Mr. Pete. I designed and built two hit and miss engines starting with two old air compressors (vertical compressors) utilizing
fly ball governors of my own design and both work very well, one two ball and one three ball. They really gave both engines that "vintage"
appearance. Again really enjoyed the video
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How could you not be interested in these, those are really cool, haven't seen them in action yet
A good teacher makes learning fun! Its effortless for you...thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with the world! If you had a bad day I hope it’ll cheer you up knowing that I enjoyed the content and look forward to your videos in hope that I may one day be as talented and knowledgeable as yourself! Thx Mr P
GB u sir
-regards
Adam R
Thank you very much and yes it was a bad day
Centrifugal governors are usually associated with steam engines, however they have a much wider range of applications yet to be realized. A couple include regulating tail rotor pitch on RC helicopters & clutch engagement on RC cars.
I think it would be a good idea to see those governors used on your engines.
If you Got the energy and some Day will be in the mood,- I would sure love to see the governors mountet on your little machines.
Good morning from Switzerland. Certainly would love to see you adapt this to one of your engines.
5,116 views in a day, I think people are interested in what you do Mr. Pete. Whatever you decide to do, we will WATCH AND LEARN!
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Very nice little items, and yes, I would love to see them mounted and working. Also, thank you for explaining the phrase "balls out". I had always thought it was a vulgar saying. Now I know better.
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Wow! Those are beautiful little governors, and a very good price for all the work to make them.
Sorry dude, I vote with everyone else. You have to show them working now.
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You really went balls out on this video!
Awesome video! I have always wondered how those types of governors worked.
I've always wondered how exactly those things work. Thanks for showing.
Thanks for the video. I have always wondered how those governors worked. Now I know 😊
All the best,
Norm in AZ
They look to be well built and nicely finished. All the moving parts don't seem sloppy. It would take me at least two weeks to make one.
Please Lyle, install both governors in two different engines. Your whole audience is waiting to see those balls out!
Microcosm is a very nice line of steam engines, well-made from the couple I've seen. don't let the fact you get them thru Banggood scare you away from some interesting brass models
Yes, you are right they are very nicely made. And you are correct, that Banggood is kind of a turn off
Would also love to see them working with one or more of your engines. Regards, Alasdair
Im studying Dynamic systems, particularly state feedback of a system and how to use that to converge to the desired output, and this video is very nicely done. I really enjoyed it, and I would love to see it in a actual steam motor! Good job
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Those are really sweet. I would love to see them belted to an engine. I know you said it would be too much work, but if you were to build a flyball governor from scratch i would watch those video,s all day!
I just learned something today, I never new that's what balls out meant, lol
Totaly thought it meant something else, lol
Seeing those in action on a steam engine would be great!
A great video as usual. If you are into steam engines and want a governor this is certainly a good prospect.
Definitely want to see how they are getting used!
You are one cool breed of cat Mr. Petersen.
Thank you Mr Pete. Of course we want to see you mount one on an engine.
Sir, greetings from Russia!
Absolutely amaising work this engines you and your friends built, would be great to see this goveners installed as well!
My best regards!
Rusty.
Another interesting video. I’d love to see you run an engine with it. Thanks Mr. Pete.
Of course everyone wants to see them in action!
I made the video today, available soon. Hi Brian
Very interesting Mr. Pete, would love to see them in service on a steam engine.
I definitely would like to see it running a model....
Nicely made governors. I wonder if a scale model flywheel governor has been made. The steam engineer ( where I worked) said flywheel governors worked very well, however, far from pleasant to work on when acting up.
G’day Mr Pete they are really nice I would like to see you mount them on one of your machines. I think I’ll plunge and buy a couple thank you for showing them and giving your recommendations on them, kind regards John Tasmania Australia
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I wonder if those small governors can actually provide any operating stability to a model engine at all. Typically, a governing element in a feedback loop must be carefully matched to the overall system to avoid instability of the entire system. Matching would include not only the dynamic characteristics of the governor (the flyball dynamics) but also the operating characteristics of the valve.
Instability, not "integration". If it runs without any real load, there is no need for a governor at all.
That hand drill is probably running at a similar speed to the Dremel, but there's a reduction gear in the front of the drill body.
Eagerly awaiting seeing you integrate these with stream engines.
You're better and more enthusiastic than UA-camrs half your age.
I'd love to see more of this. Could these possibly control a liquid or other fuel line? Maybe butane or propane driven internal combustion?
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I would love to see them hooked up to steam engines! For the what it's worth department , the expression balls out referred to steam engines. Where as the expression balls to the wall referred to the throttle quadrants in aircraft being pushed forward to the firewall!
I’d really like to see those governors in real action!
THANK YOU...for sharing. Yes, I would like to see it in action on a model. Enjoyed.
2:56 oh my goodness! so that's where " Balls Out Racing" came from. neat. over fifty, and i'm still learning new shit. mega thank you for this insight!
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I would love to see how you would figure out the belt size, inlet sizing, etc. to get one of these on one of your models.
I am impressed with what you get for $45. I especially like the 3 ball governor. I would definitely like to see it in action.
It would be great to see these in action on one of the motors.
Lyle, Here's my vote for using one or both of these governors to govern one or more of your steam engines. It's rare to see a (steam) governor in real action.
One of James Watts inventions i seem to recall ? Amazing the chinese can make this sort of thing so well and so cheaply.
Nice workmanship!
I join those who'd like to see the governor in action, though I think matching it to a given engine might be challenging. I wonder if changing the pulley size would be effective in addition to adjusting the input steam flow.
Very neat and interesting!! mrpete! I am with you all the way from what I can tell from the video they look nicely made and to me they really do look like a beautiful piece of functioning artwork! (I have been a model builder since I was 7yrs old I'm 55 now) for what its worth I vote for the last steam engine you showed, either one would look and fit nicely on your model steam engine hopefully we will get to see that happen- and as always "Two Thumbs UP Sir !!!! Thanks for posting btw -I know it has nothing to do with this video but your tapper attachment video for the SB was AMAZING!! I have that very same telescoping set up on my 13"x72" SB and didn't even know it until I watched that video lol !!!
Awesome.. I would like to see it working on the last engine... very nice!
Thanks for your video, age is just a number by the way. I'm 71 and just getting started. :)
Hey, Lyle! All is good! Micro balanced governed counterbalances for sream power are beyond my scope, too!
I think you should make a governor that's a little bit larger and revisit the variable DC motor powered drill press project. Instead of opening and closing a valve, you could have the yoke drive a gear rack that would turn up/ turn down the speed knob of the DC motor controller.
i'd like to see them in action if you're up to it. They are still in use in steam generation power plants in the front standards. Balls out is still commonly in use up on the turbine decks.
Professor, may I suggest that you load one of the governors on the car that Randy and yourself will be traveling to the bash in. With out it the ideas flying around that car may overload the air conditioner. hehehehe!!!
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good video, lets see them in action on the engines
Enjoyed the model flyball governor demonstration. Research Christiaan Huygens the inventor of the centrifugal governors, he was a tremendous mathematician and inventor. He invented the pendulum clock as well.
Thank you, I want to read up on him
Fascinating to watch even on the real engines
Please do install them on a small engine. I have the 2-ball one, and it works great, but finding a good drive belt is difficult unless you remake the pulley to use a wider flat leather belt. Also, the gears can be really loud if you don't carefully allow a little slop in the shafts to "absorb" the vibrations...they are an excellent value, but they have their quirks.
I’d also love to see them on a model!
Wow they look great can not wait to see it on a working engine lol
Mr Pete I'd love to see at least one of them installed
Would be great to see them in action on an engine.
Go for it Mr. Pete!
You have a "Two ball gain" there 😉
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Would love to see one of these integrated in an engine running balls out.
Can you use the small valve from the governor to drive the bigger one from the steam engine?
Sounds like something fun to watch.
G’day from Australia, in between poppy naps Methuselah it would be nice to see you upgrade one of your steam engines for the grandsons sake. Cheers
Peter
Well, I asked the question if they would really govern; appears they have a definite maybe capability 😎. Hope you carry on the “experiment”
Eric
I would definitely like to see them on a steam engine.. I agree making one would be a very big undertaking...
I am interested in seeing them in action.
Mr. Pete,
I'd be interested in seeing a ball governor installed and how to set it up.