3.23 Splitting Steel - Champion vs Trickster build comparison/showcase

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @dimitarangelkovski9877
    @dimitarangelkovski9877 10 місяців тому +2

    Trickster and necro is just the 2 best ascendancies in the game

  • @azadvertised
    @azadvertised 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome build. Only just switched from the Champion version to Trickster and survivability is the most I have probably ever had. Can suggest going double dark marionette for permanent uptime on haste aura instead of Divine Blessing. Same number of gem slots but no need to remember to press aura once you stagger the death of 1 marionette (essentially the aura never goes off because one of them is still alive wile the other is respawning).

    • @Shanopla
      @Shanopla 10 місяців тому

      Nice to hear someone liked it. Perhaps I can seek your advice! I am at 400 div saved and am a slow gamer maybe 1-2 hours per night, should I just go champ and do you think champ is still in the budget mentioned here from a week ago lol?

    • @azadvertised
      @azadvertised 10 місяців тому

      @@Shanopla Definitely recommend going champ as you can definitely get most (if not all of what you need to get it going with that budget). If you are looking to min/max or pick up some upgrades, it would definitely start to chunk quite a fair bit as the league inflation is wild atm.

    • @Shanopla
      @Shanopla 10 місяців тому

      Awesome thank you my friend and you are so right about inflation. It is wisps or bust this league lol
      @@azadvertised

  • @CryptoAltair7
    @CryptoAltair7 8 місяців тому +2

    The build still works as it did before the patch mate?

  • @jimmyjohnsson4788
    @jimmyjohnsson4788 10 місяців тому +1

    You my good sir, is a one square gamer, missing chaos res, Wen Bingo? // Ixxen 🤣

  • @zockrocker123
    @zockrocker123 10 місяців тому +1

    How do I craft the Body Armour for Champ? My only idea would be to slam shrieking loathing essences until I get good res and spell supression and then go with a aisling. But this is like complete rng so i guess there is another way?
    Hitting good res and supression with the essence alone seems to be really unlikely and then you also have to hit the right aisling mod. Some advice here would be cool

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому +2

      exactly, loathing until suppression -> veiled chaos orb - you dont need to aisling unless you have a prefix you want to save, that will make the craft WAY more expensive.

  • @Umbracraft
    @Umbracraft 7 місяців тому

    love your builds, played fb last 3 leagues.
    Just picking up necropolis now but i was wondering if its possible to league start splitting steel trickster?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  7 місяців тому

      apparently so, yes

    • @Umbracraft
      @Umbracraft 7 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE gave it a shot, but im wishing i just did FB instead at low red maps now

  • @zachkoa
    @zachkoa 8 місяців тому

    awesome showcase man. excited to play splitting steel for the firs time in necropolis league. im guessing its better to league start with the champion version?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  8 місяців тому +1

      splitting steel took a huge nerf with the snipers mark nerf...but yes you cant start the trickster version

    • @zachkoa
      @zachkoa 8 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE ooof how big of a nerf are we talking?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  8 місяців тому +1

      @@zachkoa significant - 4 proj down to 2 means almost half damage gone

    • @zachkoa
      @zachkoa 8 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE sheesh x.x what a bummer. might need to find a new league starter :/ thanks for the replies my guy!

    • @avgustine_iw
      @avgustine_iw 8 місяців тому +2

      I wouldn’t say it’s half damage gone, because you’ve gone from 11 proj (5 base + 1 tree + 5 mark) to 8 which is still a lot, given we don’t need as much damage in necropolis compared to affliction juice.

  • @zaczac343
    @zaczac343 8 місяців тому

    I had been planning to go splitting steel this league because I love boss rushing and farming ubers, but I've seen you're recommending not going SS this league because of the various nerfs... Do you have something else you'd recommend that fits into the same sort of niche as splitting steel?

    • @nguyentri3608
      @nguyentri3608 8 місяців тому

      Rue said it's a loss of 20%...from 100m+ DPS. Take of that what you will

  • @lameristotel
    @lameristotel 10 місяців тому +9

    This league the real benchmark for good builds is 10k wisps not Minotaur lol

    • @Hooga89
      @Hooga89 10 місяців тому +1

      That's a funny joke because there's no reason to even do wisping if you aren't mf in the first place.

    • @lameristotel
      @lameristotel 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Hooga89 Sure, the thing is i made a splitting steel champ that is able to do ubers but still manages to suck both on single target and survivability in maps like 8-12k wisps juiced. Not to mention those valdo box maps

    • @vajguy
      @vajguy 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Hooga89 that's not true, you still find good stuff without MF. Wisps are like 80% of it.

    • @Hooga89
      @Hooga89 10 місяців тому +1

      @@vajguy >you still find
      That doesn't make it worth doing without MF.

    • @vajguy
      @vajguy 10 місяців тому +5

      @@Hooga89 it's worth it. I'm a casual player and the amount of raw divines for doing wisp and no mf, is like 1000% diff from previous leagues. If you get 5k wisp, spread amongst two diff color of wisp, that's almost 1 guaranteed divine drop. Don't quote me on that, but that's what it feels like. So def still worth doing wisp without mf.

  • @NhuQuynh-nv7fp
    @NhuQuynh-nv7fp 10 місяців тому

    I’m having resistance issue on the Champ 😮

  • @TheBartogo
    @TheBartogo 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey how can u use haste while at 90 mana only ? i think it costs like 130 per use

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      I explain that in the video

    • @TheBartogo
      @TheBartogo 10 місяців тому

      Ah i missed the jewel with 5% everything';s clear thx :)
      @@ZishPOE

  • @mohamedfox23
    @mohamedfox23 8 місяців тому

    hey do you recommend it for the new league? is a budget version of this build viable?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  8 місяців тому

      Trickster version was never a league starter, and the Snipers Mark nerfs hit hard, so probably not....

  • @Piotrekx3
    @Piotrekx3 10 місяців тому

    Can I use fire res fractured on shield and focus on max fire res? Seems cheaper than lightning

  • @JJ-js3sw
    @JJ-js3sw 8 місяців тому

    Is the trickster version viable without a mageblood?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  8 місяців тому

      I dunno I wouldnt play it, but everyone has their own definitions of "viable". Build took big nerfs to snipers mark and mana cost flask/jewels.

  • @pedrobrailovsky5382
    @pedrobrailovsky5382 10 місяців тому

    Is it worth it dropping a headhunter on the campion build?

  • @asapBreeZy
    @asapBreeZy 10 місяців тому

    What’s the best way to make the trickster chest? Unfortunately there’s not a good suppression fracture available on console atm. I have a t1 flat ev/es fracture tho, I’ve used hundreds of dense fossils trying to hit t1 int and t1/t2 supp but been extremely unlucky and now I feel like I should have been spamming spite essences until I hit suppression, then locked and reforged or eld currencied it. Essences then?
    Also, your opinion on using atziris reflection vs a rare shield?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      Since you want a crafted prefix you only need to hit 2 prefixes, so I think doing suffixes first is better. I used Int essences looking for suppression

  • @chrisdahl480
    @chrisdahl480 10 місяців тому

    Hi Zish, love your builds. I imported the PoB on the trickster, and it has 129 passives, care to fix, or like, explain? :) kr - Divine_orb

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      Pob sometimes can't tell which cluster jewel points you actually have, the extras are probably there.

    • @chrisdahl480
      @chrisdahl480 10 місяців тому

      aha thank you kindly!
      @@ZishPOE

  • @stefangames277
    @stefangames277 9 місяців тому

    Hi! on Champion Build, is Mandatory "That which was taken Crimson Jewel" ? bcs is 90 divines on market , and i wanna know if is Mandatory to buy or nah. thank you!^^

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  9 місяців тому +1

      Nope not mandatory, just flexibility

    • @stefangames277
      @stefangames277 9 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE thank you!

  • @Hawkotelli
    @Hawkotelli 10 місяців тому

    could you incorporate a mageblood on the champion or is the perseverance too good

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому +1

      You could but I'm not sure you should....perseverance is extremely strong. Could be worth experimenting with if you wanted to really push the champion version

  • @method9312211
    @method9312211 10 місяців тому +2

    When you see the Champion outfit looking like homeless guy and the Trickster looks like the fcking Elon Musk then you already know which is the better class, no? :D

  • @rellify3
    @rellify3 10 місяців тому

    I'm very interested in the trickster version but I'm not very familiar with ES gear crafting. Have any good resources for the rares used?

    • @suddha1
      @suddha1 10 місяців тому

      Don't do it bro his gear is past mirror now it's amazing to play but gl trying to reach even half that without spending hundreds of divs.

    • @rellify3
      @rellify3 10 місяців тому

      @@suddha1I have mage blood plus like 500d, is it worth it on that budget?

    • @diegogarber1
      @diegogarber1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@rellify3 there's a lot of cost on the bases... but, if you've never crafted it before, it's probably not the best build for you. With a step by step guide you could do it without problem, but if you are like me, you'll mess some things up the first time you try them (that's normal :) ) like the iLvl of the bases or which fractured thing to buy, etc. I'd go for something that's half the price of your budget, not 200d over (makes sense?) so it gives you room for errors and learning to craft that gear
      honestly i spent less $ on my immortal armor stacker with 70Mdps. It's a matter of learning and making it again :)
      On the other hand, if you already have MB + 500d cash, you know how to play the game, so you'll be fine either way xD

    • @rellify3
      @rellify3 10 місяців тому

      I'm going for the champ version I think, I understand how I'd craft those rares and it's more in the budget. Thanks for the insight!@@diegogarber1

    • @Captain-qv8yu
      @Captain-qv8yu 10 місяців тому

      @@diegogarber1 or you can just go to craftofexile emulator and "craft" there as many times as you need until you feel confident enough to repeat it in the game.

  • @jviii3086
    @jviii3086 9 місяців тому

    No deadeye tho 😢

  • @Pedram_Aphotic
    @Pedram_Aphotic 6 місяців тому

    can we get your take on Trickster in this league?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  6 місяців тому

      worse than last league but still strong

    • @Pedram_Aphotic
      @Pedram_Aphotic 6 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE send a pob or ninja link that you confirm ?

  • @parmvirrai7996
    @parmvirrai7996 10 місяців тому

    i noticed you're not using maji like steel does is warden better you think?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      Everyone has different definitions of "better" - you can go that route if you want to not use your chest sockets to get more ES from it.

    • @parmvirrai7996
      @parmvirrai7996 10 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE which version does more damage?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      @@parmvirrai7996 I cant say for sure - the charm version is immortal and shreds ubers, so its good enough for me

    • @parmvirrai7996
      @parmvirrai7996 10 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE awesome thanks for the videos.

  • @snatcher81
    @snatcher81 10 місяців тому

    Since im a complete idiot, what is the most optimal pantheon?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому +1

      I run Solaris + Abberath on almost every character

  • @taylorcummins6114
    @taylorcummins6114 8 місяців тому

    Can you league start with this build?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  8 місяців тому

      Champion yes, Trickster no

  • @TomCat-zo5ig
    @TomCat-zo5ig 10 місяців тому

    8k wisp no problem?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      Mostly yep

  • @EngMohamedAbdallahBR
    @EngMohamedAbdallahBR 10 місяців тому

    Hey, the pob link provided has only lvl 94 character tree, also the first weapon is missing a gem in the item skills section. could you please update?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      You can play the build at level 94 and there are flexible gem sockets...

  • @loveandhate2742
    @loveandhate2742 10 місяців тому +3

    Amazing video. Do you think Splitting Steel trickster could be possibly a starter?

    • @TheEternalVortex42
      @TheEternalVortex42 10 місяців тому +2

      lol the video literally discusses how it's extremely expensive and that's your question?

    • @loveandhate2742
      @loveandhate2742 10 місяців тому +2

      @@TheEternalVortex42 yes... you can always do league starter variant.. question is if its effiecient. for example bladetrap costs also 200 div+ for ubers but its good leaguestarter

    • @artursz2
      @artursz2 10 місяців тому +2

      You can always leaguestart Frost Blades end endgame with SS. FB is still amazing and easy to craft.

    • @leobigsad
      @leobigsad 10 місяців тому +1

      @@loveandhate2742 blade trap is not a good league starter, wtf are you on

    • @elantonelle
      @elantonelle 10 місяців тому

      It could but its bad

  • @danielmitchell671
    @danielmitchell671 10 місяців тому

    can you explain the adrenaline tech, is there a a perfect number of life to be at to make it work? and how to make cf cost the right amount of life?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому +1

      With Lifetap added (300% cost multiplier), the CF costs 1560 life - with Precision on Arrogance, if your life is below 3120 it will auto-proc your Adrenaline whenever you CF. I have ~3000 life, so it works great.

    • @danielmitchell671
      @danielmitchell671 10 місяців тому

      @@ZishPOE ah i see. i slowed down the clip to see what life u drop too but i think ur regen was too much as it didnt show going to low life, thanks heaps dude

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      @@danielmitchell671 The Adrenaline procs instantly so your life goes down to low-life but then instantly goes back up, you dont actually see the life going down

  • @diegogarber1
    @diegogarber1 10 місяців тому

    what's the estimate of how many of these hit in single target?
    is it worth it without nimis? (Not that Nimis is that expensive, I just want to understand the build better :) )

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому

      You must use Nimis or Returning Proj - they shotgun, the build would be pretty bad without it

  • @aliuznoratiuz
    @aliuznoratiuz 8 місяців тому

    You are using AMD GPU right? looks much more granulated image.

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  8 місяців тому

      probably just because i capture at 720p for stream stability - my performance is great imo

  • @saifer21
    @saifer21 10 місяців тому

    Can you league start with Trickster?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  10 місяців тому +1

      Probably not on this build, it would be so different it wouldnt even be the same build