Predicted this as a previous GP and now on a second DJI osmo for my moto vlogging, my 3 still going strong and has never let me down. Great comparison big man. Cheers
Thanks for taking the time to put this together! Amazingly well thought out and produced video. The GoPro is really getting outclassed by the modern competition.
@@cedeunmail If you had clicked on our channel name I guess that would have answered your question but we are the husband and wife team who make videos about motorbikes. We both use the DJI cameras. We both used to have GoPro. Hope that helps
@@johnorton4418 Honestly just reliability. They gave great looking footage but they would freeze. They would unexpectedly consume batteries while turned off. They would corrupt memory files. If you were trying to record once in a lifetime trips you wouldn't trust GoPro. Insta hasn't let us down yet and we make weekly videos
@@johnorton4418 GoPro cameras let us down too often. Freezing, where it records just the audio and leaves a frozen still of the start. Corrupting recorded files Using batteries when turned off Short battery life Terrible customer service
Hi! Great comparison. I just switched my GoPro 10 to a DJI action 4 because of the audio issues I was having with my GP10. But I just wanted to add that you can connect the GP to an external battery, and you won't have the need to change the battery.
Thanks, thats true, but then you have to have a cable trailing from the camera, not so bad if its onthe handlebars, but a real pain if mounted on your helmet!
@mancavemoto Yeah, it is an extra cable... I used to have the external battery in the inside pocket of my coat. I preferred that then to undo the GP setup every 30 min. 🤷♀️
Thanks for the video. I also struggle a lot with the freezing on my GoPro 9 and was thinking of trying out a different brand. The DJI was already on my radar, and I think this video just gave me the final push to order one😁.
@@tojj29 The push was hard enough, and the 4 already had its first big test week in the Pyrenees. The new 5 will probably replace my other GoPro in the future. 😁
Thanks for the comparison review, sounds like DJI is slowly becoming the choice of Motovloggers. More than a few videos coming up with the same glowing reviews for the Osmo Action 4 and now I've seen articles claiming that the Osmo Action 5 will be coming very soon.
Great video Tony. I have the DJI and am very happy with it. I’m struggling slightly with my purple panda mic settings. Don’t suppose you could share your gain settings and mic placement please?
Thanks, I'm using the DJI lav mic, its mounted just sticking out from the cheekpad towards the chinbar. With that mic I turn the gain down to -3 and it works pretty well
Very thorough review Tony. It does seem that Go Pro have sat on their hands somewhat. Shades of Blackberry? Would definitely consider the DJI if I am going to get a camera. Thank you👍
Excellent vid, very detailed…. BlueTooth ! You mentioned they support Bluetooth connection to your helmet headset for blog recording. I connect my Sena to my phone for SatNav and music, can I also connect the dji to record dialogue ?
Brilliant Video, just what I've been waiting for an unbiased unsponsored review of these three cameras. I already had discounted the GoPro due to so many of my friends having reliability issues. But want to make sure before taking the plunge. I think the DJI is the one for me. Thanks.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who got thoroughly sick of removing and replacing the gopro media mod. What an apalling design for an unreliable product.
Thanks for the video Tony! your review on Ace Pro convinced me and I'm quite happy with my setup. also got that GPS remote with screen. liked it a lot on my handle bar!
Brilliant video! I moved from GoPro to Insta360 One RS a few years ago but I´m looking to upgrade again. Looks like the Dji is a good contender. Certainly happy with the footage from my Dji Drone. Quick question for you. Does the Dji support 2 audio sources. Like my helmet com set AND a 3.5 jack?
Just wondering if already using an Insta360 X3 like I am, would it be advisable for me to get the Insta or would there be no actual gain in that from getting the Dj4?.. If not I’d prob get the Dj4.. Great vid as usual btw!
just my own experience. I have X4 and Ace Pro, the GPS remote with screen works with both so I'm quite happy controlling them from my handle bar. of course they share the same app too.
Great video review, but I have to disagree with you on the "any of the three" being acceptable. For me the Go Pro is no longer in the frame, and I will make a video of my own on this. It boils down to 2 things, the first being significantly greater than the very important second - (1) reliability / lockups / need to reboot etc. (2) ease of disconnecting the camera while on the mount without changing camera angle. Based on these two alone the GoPro is dead. I opted for the Insta360 Ace Pro for many reasons some of which you did not have time to mention. The DJI Action 4 is clearly the winner for a motovlogger since it is lighter and cheaper and has excellent video and audio capabilities. I will give the GoPro kudos for video and audio, but if it lock up none of that matters.
During the image quality comparison, the clouds in the GoPro footage seemed to "move" when you were turning on your bike yet on the DJI and Insta360 Ace Pro, the clouds seemed to "tilt" heavily when you turned if you know what I mean Why is this? You didn't have Horizon Lock on any of the cameras did you....
@mancavemoto Would the GoPro shoot better daytime video in 5.3k over the insta360 Ace Pro's 4k despite the GoPro having a smaller sensor? If all settings were auto, basic stabilisation and vivid/vibrant colours, high bitrate h2.65 and both filming at 60fps on a sunny day, which would look better between the GoPro and the Insta360 Ace Pro??
Thanks for this Tony, it's great to see all three cameras in comparison. The GoPro definitely looks flatter than the other two, so I'd set that aside. For me, I think I prefer the richness and vibrancy of the Insta 360 and maybe the slightly bigger flip up screen has an appeal given my recent discovery that I need reading glasses. That said, I'd really be interested in more detail on what the various accompanying apps do, not the "post-production" side, but the camera control side. To me that makes the most sense for MotoVlogging. It's already there on my bars on my Quadlock, and the combination of a much bigger screen and some touch sensitive gloves just sounds easier, especially if using a chin mounted camera where I'd otherwise have to take my helmet off. Which of course then makes me wonder if the Insta 360 Ace might be enough of a camera after all And then I want an Insta 360 X4 too and are there any benefits to staying within the same ecosystem? And after all of that tech-spec analysis, like you say, it's not really the camera at all that makes the great content, it's the eye of the videographer, and I'm shortsighted and only ever seem to ride to Sainsbury's, so do I need a camera at all?
I wanted to compare all three on what I think is important. As I mentioned at the end, the reality is that they are all good cameras, but the DJI just had more of what you need and less of what you don’t than the competition.
GoPro hasn't had a reliable camera since maybe the 3+. That's the killer for me. So many times the f**ker freezes, or stops, or creates a corrupted video file. the H8 is my last GoPro.
I don't care for image quality at all. Even the cameras from 3 years ago excel at that. I want people to really use the cameras and ask the questions that would make the cameras really usable. - can I pair multiple cameras to the remote? - can the remote turn on / off the cameras and how long does it take to power on and be ready to record? - when I turn the camera on, do the wireless mics connect automatically (and how fast)? Or do I need to pair them again? Does the remote show when the mic is ready? - Is there a wireless microphone that can be turned on/off together with the camera? I have the Ace Pro with the Preview Remote, and I'm very disappointed with the whole package. It takes forever to turn on the camera and connect. I can't use a wireless microphone, because there's none that can be controlled with a remote (which doesn't matter, because the Ace Pro doesn't connect to it after a restart anyways). So I'm stuck with this bulky mic adapter (and I still don't understand why these things exist and why we can't have a 3.5mm jack in the camera per default. I'm actually super annoyed how there's always improvement in areas that are long good enough, but zero improvement in areas that would really be needed. I want to push a button an have 3,4,5 cameras turn on and record. In sync. With wireless mics connected. Why is this not possible yet?
Interesting, and good questions thanks. It may be the basis for another video, but I can try and answer them. 1. It appears not at this stage, the remotes i've tried (insta & dji) will only connect to one camera. 2. The insta360 and DJI definitely can, and the DJI is definitely the faster of the two 3. The DJI does, and it works really well with the DJI mic II, thats one reason i'm favouring the DJI products, they mesh together very well.
@@mancavemoto Thanks. I'm probably switching to DJI with the next camera update. Not only because of the mic, but also because I have a DJI drone and I want all the footage to be shot in DLOG, because I'm currently unable to match the color profile perfectly when mixing drone images and insta360 images. The only thing that's missing from dji is a 360 camera. But that's okay, because after the initial hype, I started using the 360 cam less often now.
Of the 3, I picked the Ace Pro because of its low light performance and HDR. Yes, it's heavier and more expensive but I remember how many awesome moments I failed to record because of low light conditions. Even a cloudy day in winter spells doom for your motovlogging prospects. I didn't consider the GoPro for long because in all fairness, it's a bit behind the day in terms of technology no matter how great its bright light performance be. GoPro need to up their game in all haste! DJI was attractive, but all told, the Ace Pro was still a more comprehensive package.
this is the definitive non 360 action camera comparison for motorcyclists. Pretty much all of the other motorcycle vlog comparison videos were paid by either Insta360 or DJI. I will say most people mentioned they asked to do so by those two companies which in my eyes creates a bias. At least they mentioned it I found one or two that hid the fact they were paid for a comparison. Im not surprised with the results GoPro is not innovating they are not doing quality control and I do recomend watching the company man video about gopro it sheds light on what is happening. If the GoPro13 does not make major changes I have a feeling GoPro will be aquired in the next couple of years. My only other critique, The Insta360 ace. Im not sure if its available in your country, It is a cheaper alternative to the Ace Pro I would have love to have seen how that stacks up against the other three cameras.
@@mancavemoto It's a joke about this video, as its very well done. Your video along with about a dozen and a half others have already have me choosing the Insta360 Ace Pro.
@@mancavemoto Pay per view is something we do here in the states on cable or internet tv where you pay for a special event, like a boxing match with undercard fighters and such, or it could be a special concert event. To be honest with you, we are so bombarded with TV here that I don't even know if Pay Per View is still done. LOL! I cherish your video and critique of these camera's as I myself am looking for something that is simple to use for my content. Thank You!
Predicted this as a previous GP and now on a second DJI osmo for my moto vlogging, my 3 still going strong and has never let me down. Great comparison big man. Cheers
Thanks for sharing
Hi T, great informative video, and it was an absolute pleasure meeting you at the ABR festival.
Cheers, You too!
Thanks for taking the time to put this together! Amazingly well thought out and produced video. The GoPro is really getting outclassed by the modern competition.
Much appreciated!
DJI for our channel. We will never buy a Gopro again.
@@Banditmanuk who is “we”?
@@cedeunmail If you had clicked on our channel name I guess that would have answered your question but we are the husband and wife team who make videos about motorbikes. We both use the DJI cameras. We both used to have GoPro. Hope that helps
Any reason?
@@johnorton4418 Honestly just reliability. They gave great looking footage but they would freeze. They would unexpectedly consume batteries while turned off. They would corrupt memory files.
If you were trying to record once in a lifetime trips you wouldn't trust GoPro. Insta hasn't let us down yet and we make weekly videos
@@johnorton4418 GoPro cameras let us down too often. Freezing, where it records just the audio and leaves a frozen still of the start.
Corrupting recorded files
Using batteries when turned off
Short battery life
Terrible customer service
Hi! Great comparison. I just switched my GoPro 10 to a DJI action 4 because of the audio issues I was having with my GP10.
But I just wanted to add that you can connect the GP to an external battery, and you won't have the need to change the battery.
Thanks, thats true, but then you have to have a cable trailing from the camera, not so bad if its onthe handlebars, but a real pain if mounted on your helmet!
@mancavemoto Yeah, it is an extra cable... I used to have the external battery in the inside pocket of my coat. I preferred that then to undo the GP setup every 30 min. 🤷♀️
Thanks for the video. I also struggle a lot with the freezing on my GoPro 9 and was thinking of trying out a different brand. The DJI was already on my radar, and I think this video just gave me the final push to order one😁.
Might pay to wait a few weeks with the DJI Osmo Action 5 mooted to be released soon .
@@tojj29 The push was hard enough, and the 4 already had its first big test week in the Pyrenees. The new 5 will probably replace my other GoPro in the future. 😁
Thanks for the comparison review, sounds like DJI is slowly becoming the choice of Motovloggers. More than a few videos coming up with the same glowing reviews for the Osmo Action 4 and now I've seen articles claiming that the Osmo Action 5 will be coming very soon.
Thanks you just sold me I'm going with DJI. Good job
Great video Tony. I have the DJI and am very happy with it. I’m struggling slightly with my purple panda mic settings. Don’t suppose you could share your gain settings and mic placement please?
Thanks, I'm using the DJI lav mic, its mounted just sticking out from the cheekpad towards the chinbar. With that mic I turn the gain down to -3 and it works pretty well
@@mancavemoto excellent. Thanks for your reply
Great review , I have the action3 and maybe will upgrade to the action4 ... still the same conclusion I like DJI Alain & Yellow
If you aleady have action 3 then you should wait for action 5, its releasing soon.
Very thorough review Tony. It does seem that Go Pro have sat on their hands somewhat. Shades of Blackberry? Would definitely consider the DJI if I am going to get a camera. Thank you👍
Tony, I have just heard about your accident and wanted to send you my best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Thank you William
thanks for the vid! I'm vibing with the Ace Pro. Their app is killer with my X3!!!!
Excellent vid, very detailed…. BlueTooth ! You mentioned they support Bluetooth connection to your helmet headset for blog recording. I connect my Sena to my phone for SatNav and music, can I also connect the dji to record dialogue ?
Cheers, not sure, but it’s only two connections which should be ok for Bluetooth, unless there’s a conflict?
My choice too. I had hero 7 for some years, I liked it but too much freezing and data loss..
Brilliant Video, just what I've been waiting for an unbiased unsponsored review of these three cameras. I already had discounted the GoPro due to so many of my friends having reliability issues. But want to make sure before taking the plunge. I think the DJI is the one for me. Thanks.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who got thoroughly sick of removing and replacing the gopro media mod. What an apalling design for an unreliable product.
I really love the software around the Insta camera's. So much bettet than the GoPro stuff
Thanks for the video Tony! your review on Ace Pro convinced me and I'm quite happy with my setup. also got that GPS remote with screen. liked it a lot on my handle bar!
Brilliant video! I moved from GoPro to Insta360 One RS a few years ago but I´m looking to upgrade again. Looks like the Dji is a good contender. Certainly happy with the footage from my Dji Drone.
Quick question for you. Does the Dji support 2 audio sources. Like my helmet com set AND a 3.5 jack?
Thanks, good question, and I may not have found a solution, but when you plug a 3.5mm mic it seems to take over as the only 'external mic'
@@mancavemoto Thank you :)
I bought DJI Action 4.
I also considered Pocket 3, but decided to go with Action 4 instead for durability and water proof.
Just wondering if already using an Insta360 X3 like I am, would it be advisable for me to get the Insta or would there be no actual gain in that from getting the Dj4?..
If not I’d prob get the Dj4..
Great vid as usual btw!
No real benefit of running the Ace Pro with the X3. I use an X3 with the DJI
just my own experience. I have X4 and Ace Pro, the GPS remote with screen works with both so I'm quite happy controlling them from my handle bar. of course they share the same app too.
I wish I’d have brought a camera for my Scotland trip. For me which ever camera I buy it needs to be simple to use I don’t understand the fps ect.
The DJI Mic is expensive but a great alternative to wired microphones...esp on a bike where you are exposed to the elements.
Great video review, but I have to disagree with you on the "any of the three" being acceptable. For me the Go Pro is no longer in the frame, and I will make a video of my own on this. It boils down to 2 things, the first being significantly greater than the very important second - (1) reliability / lockups / need to reboot etc. (2) ease of disconnecting the camera while on the mount without changing camera angle. Based on these two alone the GoPro is dead.
I opted for the Insta360 Ace Pro for many reasons some of which you did not have time to mention. The DJI Action 4 is clearly the winner for a motovlogger since it is lighter and cheaper and has excellent video and audio capabilities. I will give the GoPro kudos for video and audio, but if it lock up none of that matters.
Hi
Can the DJi action 4 be mounted easily on handlebars … what mount is needed?
Does DJi sell mounts for the chest also ?
Cheers
It can yes, it'll fit on any Gopro style mount. DJI make a very good chest mount
During the image quality comparison, the clouds in the GoPro footage seemed to "move" when you were turning on your bike yet on the DJI and Insta360 Ace Pro, the clouds seemed to "tilt" heavily when you turned if you know what I mean
Why is this?
You didn't have Horizon Lock on any of the cameras did you....
Good spot, it appears that I did have horizon levelling switched in on the GoPro in error
@mancavemoto Would the GoPro shoot better daytime video in 5.3k over the insta360 Ace Pro's 4k despite the GoPro having a smaller sensor?
If all settings were auto, basic stabilisation and vivid/vibrant colours, high bitrate h2.65 and both filming at 60fps on a sunny day, which would look better between the GoPro and the Insta360 Ace Pro??
Thanks for this Tony, it's great to see all three cameras in comparison.
The GoPro definitely looks flatter than the other two, so I'd set that aside. For me, I think I prefer the richness and vibrancy of the Insta 360 and maybe the slightly bigger flip up screen has an appeal given my recent discovery that I need reading glasses.
That said, I'd really be interested in more detail on what the various accompanying apps do, not the "post-production" side, but the camera control side. To me that makes the most sense for MotoVlogging. It's already there on my bars on my Quadlock, and the combination of a much bigger screen and some touch sensitive gloves just sounds easier, especially if using a chin mounted camera where I'd otherwise have to take my helmet off. Which of course then makes me wonder if the Insta 360 Ace might be enough of a camera after all
And then I want an Insta 360 X4 too and are there any benefits to staying within the same ecosystem?
And after all of that tech-spec analysis, like you say, it's not really the camera at all that makes the great content, it's the eye of the videographer, and I'm shortsighted and only ever seem to ride to Sainsbury's, so do I need a camera at all?
I've seen so many reviews that give a big thumbs up for the DJI osmo4 closely followed by the Insta360.
The battery issue puts me right off the GoPro.
I wanted to compare all three on what I think is important. As I mentioned at the end, the reality is that they are all good cameras, but the DJI just had more of what you need and less of what you don’t than the competition.
GoPro hasn't had a reliable camera since maybe the 3+. That's the killer for me. So many times the f**ker freezes, or stops, or creates a corrupted video file. the H8 is my last GoPro.
DJI for me as well! Thanks!
The GoPro looks like doodoo! I had the GoPro 11. It was terrible
I don't care for image quality at all. Even the cameras from 3 years ago excel at that. I want people to really use the cameras and ask the questions that would make the cameras really usable.
- can I pair multiple cameras to the remote?
- can the remote turn on / off the cameras and how long does it take to power on and be ready to record?
- when I turn the camera on, do the wireless mics connect automatically (and how fast)? Or do I need to pair them again? Does the remote show when the mic is ready?
- Is there a wireless microphone that can be turned on/off together with the camera?
I have the Ace Pro with the Preview Remote, and I'm very disappointed with the whole package. It takes forever to turn on the camera and connect. I can't use a wireless microphone, because there's none that can be controlled with a remote (which doesn't matter, because the Ace Pro doesn't connect to it after a restart anyways). So I'm stuck with this bulky mic adapter (and I still don't understand why these things exist and why we can't have a 3.5mm jack in the camera per default.
I'm actually super annoyed how there's always improvement in areas that are long good enough, but zero improvement in areas that would really be needed. I want to push a button an have 3,4,5 cameras turn on and record. In sync. With wireless mics connected. Why is this not possible yet?
Interesting, and good questions thanks. It may be the basis for another video, but I can try and answer them.
1. It appears not at this stage, the remotes i've tried (insta & dji) will only connect to one camera.
2. The insta360 and DJI definitely can, and the DJI is definitely the faster of the two
3. The DJI does, and it works really well with the DJI mic II, thats one reason i'm favouring the DJI products, they mesh together very well.
@@mancavemoto Thanks. I'm probably switching to DJI with the next camera update. Not only because of the mic, but also because I have a DJI drone and I want all the footage to be shot in DLOG, because I'm currently unable to match the color profile perfectly when mixing drone images and insta360 images. The only thing that's missing from dji is a 360 camera. But that's okay, because after the initial hype, I started using the 360 cam less often now.
Of the 3, I picked the Ace Pro because of its low light performance and HDR. Yes, it's heavier and more expensive but I remember how many awesome moments I failed to record because of low light conditions. Even a cloudy day in winter spells doom for your motovlogging prospects. I didn't consider the GoPro for long because in all fairness, it's a bit behind the day in terms of technology no matter how great its bright light performance be. GoPro need to up their game in all haste! DJI was attractive, but all told, the Ace Pro was still a more comprehensive package.
Battery life and heating issues?
@@Amd107 Battery life is shown in the video, I didn’t experience overheating with any of the cameras.
After Action 4 firmware update, it gives more clear images than Insta 360.
this is the definitive non 360 action camera comparison for motorcyclists. Pretty much all of the other motorcycle vlog comparison videos were paid by either Insta360 or DJI. I will say most people mentioned they asked to do so by those two companies which in my eyes creates a bias. At least they mentioned it I found one or two that hid the fact they were paid for a comparison. Im not surprised with the results GoPro is not innovating they are not doing quality control and I do recomend watching the company man video about gopro it sheds light on what is happening. If the GoPro13 does not make major changes I have a feeling GoPro will be aquired in the next couple of years. My only other critique, The Insta360 ace. Im not sure if its available in your country, It is a cheaper alternative to the Ace Pro I would have love to have seen how that stacks up against the other three cameras.
I don't know why you didn't pay per view this...?
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@@mancavemoto It's a joke about this video, as its very well done. Your video along with about a dozen and a half others have already have me choosing the Insta360 Ace Pro.
Ah ok, I just didn’t understand 😂 thanks
@@mancavemoto Pay per view is something we do here in the states on cable or internet tv where you pay for a special event, like a boxing match with undercard fighters and such, or it could be a special concert event. To be honest with you, we are so bombarded with TV here that I don't even know if Pay Per View is still done. LOL! I cherish your video and critique of these camera's as I myself am looking for something that is simple to use for my content. Thank You!
@@robvegart no problem, I understand what pay per view is, but as it’s not something you can do on UA-cam I was initially confused 😂