Thank you for another great review. Waited for a while for you to review the RCBS Summit (I suggested this review a while so appreciate it). I personally love how this press seats bullets and how you can set it up anywhere at home or at the range quickly with the right base setup. It virtually eliminates bullet run out. The Summit also does work great with the Hornady die bushing conversion for even faster caliber switch over. I recommend buying the optional short handle because it makes seating bullets so much faster and easier and the press even more compact.
I have the Red, White and Blue limited edition Summit press there were only 2000 of the color combo made. This press is a beast I have the Hornady quick die changing system for it. This press is heavy duty. Only draw back to it doesn't come with the Short handle. Gavin is right on the money with the review of this press.
I have the same one and love it. I bought the short handle for seating bullets, it works well. I also bought the conversion kit so I can use it with Wilson dies as a arbor press.
@@jesusisalive3227regarding the smaller piece in the conversion kit, do you simply unscrew the shellholder adapter and replace with the bottom arbor piece?
Dahut I might have a bad one but RCBS have told me that they have some the broke. Gavin highlights that they don’t have vertical movement well mine has heaps the rear screws can’t go any tighter. I have been thinking about getting it re bored and sleeved to take the tolerance out of it
That thing is a monster. At first blush, it looks as if you could _almost_ get away with not bolting it down! If you shortened the handle and/or gave it a bit of an upward bend, it would clear the tabletop. The obvious question is "Why would I move from some other single-stage press to this?" The first answer which suggests itself is that all else being equal, solidity breeds concentricity; you aren't going to bend that ram pillar in any great hurry.
Just ordered my first RCBS press after watching this, it won't replace anything but I guarantee you I'll use it until the new is worn off lol. I prefer doing single operations anyway.
The RCBS Summit has ALL THE SLOP it needs. There is plenty of left-right slop for the die. The cartridge itself ALWAYS have front back slop because that is how you slide the case into the shell holder anyway. Combined, this is a self-aligning system which allows the case to center itself the die without undue pressures in any lateral direction.
You can't use the gold medal dies with this press if loading longer overall length cartridges, like 270, 30-06 and longer. Notice when he runs the dies down, how the micrometer barely clears the hinged area as he seats the bullet. Just a heads up. Someone may have mentioned this all ready.
Good review. Looks like a good product. {I Liked and Subscribed.} Third "RCBS Summit Press" review / explanation that I have seen this week. {Must be the hamster at the Y.T. headquarters sending out certain videos.} I really like my Forster/Bonanza Co-Ax press, but the Summit seems to be a quality tool. Glad that you mentioned at the end of the video about the priming and powder charging,,,, I was thinking that you had missed 2 steps in the procedure. 🙂
Fascinating design; sort of reminds me of some of the swaging presses that move the die rather than the punch. How heavy would you describe it as relative to RCBS' standard SS offerings?
I very much enjoy your channel. Watched a lot of the reloading videos, then when I was looking for a phase converter, guess who showed back up. I’m planning to make one of these of my own as a little machine shop project
I ordered the smaller handle but I just cancelled it, I think more leverage is better, plus I like the idea of reaching up like an ape to grasp the handle, so cool 😎
I like the small footprint of the Summit I just got but I prefer the balance of my MEC. The summit handle feels “heavy” while the MEC feels almost weightless.
Hey Gavin, thanks for the review of this press (even though it's 5 years old). I'm just getting into reloading and would like to ask you a couple of questions about the Inline Fabrication Ultramount. Putting aside the quick changeability of the mount what would you say are the next two best features of it? Thanks Craig
I'm glad to see a review of this press. It might be an alternative to the hard to find Forster and MEC presses. How does the concentricity compare to other presses?
I've heard people say that but brownells is always trying to get me to buy the overrated coax every since I bought it on their site. It's in stock every time I check too.
Hi Gavin, I know this video was sometime ago But can I use Forster Ultra Micrometer Seating Die with this press? As they sit tall in the die holder. Thanks in advance for any help. Pete
First of all thanks for a great channel! If you ever get The chance. Try The german bult turban cnc präzipress. That ting is a work of art. It is made in three size and has probably one of the worlds best alignment precision. It is rally expensive tho... Thanks from Patrik from sweden
They make a solid steel flat face "machined plug and nut" for lack of better terminology, to convert this RCBS, to a arbor style setup, for $26.00. FWIW, I just ordered this press for 199.95 and the and the conversion at Natchez Shooters Supply
Can you use Hornady lock n load rings with dies on this press like you can with the rock chucker supreme? *Edit - went to mfg site, indicates there is a removable outer bushing that is the size of the lock n load rings, so should work on this press
Gavin great information, I’ve been looking at this press and the Forester Co -Ax, I load rifle only for hunting and long range shooting. Do you prefer the RCBS Or the Forester and why? Thank you for the great videos always.👍
I seen this press with a dual handle with long and short handles, pulling from one side only seems to go un even. It does have a left side handle hole as well why not pull from both sides?
I have greatly enjoyed your vids. I am just now getting into reloading. Single stage only for now. I have an RCBS JR3 (1977 mfg) that has never been used. My dad bought it along with a Rem700 BDL 7mm rem mag. I also have the never touched RCBS dies and the rifle. Would you recommend using this press or should I buy something new like the MEC or the Forster Co-Ax?
@ common sense ---- Hello. Yours is a Four-year-old question. Guess the Channel owner did not read it. I will offer you an answer. Go ahead and use the press that you have from your Dad! If you already have a Press and the dies, may as well use them. All reloading is about a 5-step process. Whether it is the old Ideal/Lyman hand-held "310 Tang-Tool" (aka: The Nutcracker) or a expensive bench mounted turret-style press. I have the Forster/Bonanza/Co-Ax press and like it. They are expensive. That is why I suggest that you use the RCBS you got from your Dad. Hope this helps, even though it was posted 4 years ago.
The press doesn't look sturdy. I'm used to seeing beefy looking parts. Maybe the viewing angle of the video doesn't do justice to this press. Only two small bolts to hold down the small base area of the press. Is there movement between the press base and the mounting bracket when case sizing?
Just watch your clip on the RCBS Summit Re loader. I really love your setup. Can you send me a parts list and stores where I can purchase this, so I can build my own re-loader station. Thanks a lot. You do really good clip. In fact, I will be purchasing a Ruger Precision rifle just because of your clip. You really sold me on that bolt action rifle.
I'm using the summit and number 19 rcbs shelholder for the.224 valkyrie and a case gauge but when I resize my case isn't sitting completely flush i set a cam over and it's the same. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the review Gavin, I love your channel but I heard lots of negative feedback about this press which is the remake of a 1960’s unsuccessful design, I will stick to my 30 + y/o Rockchucker that is still kicking.
Can Hornady Cam Lock Bullet Puller's be used on this press? The reason I ask is because of the puller handle length might get in the way of the dual arms.
I have used both the RCBS ram prime and the Lee ram prime with this press in conjunction with the Hornady Lock and Load system. Both get the job done but I do prefer the Lee ram prime in that the ram is sturdier if that makes sense to you.
He goes into more depth on it in his "14 Reloading Presses Compared" : the BIG Single-Stage Shootout I'm pretty sure its completely solid as far as the press goes but the shell holder has a spring snap in possibly. They make a solid steel, huge ,flat faced steel plug like part, with a nut to tighten it up on the bottom. fwiw. I just ordered it for 26.00 if you just want a heavy duty precision arbor press style setup.
I find that my summit press sticks and is hard on the up stoke when I full resize to the point I broke the cast where the handle screws I have you had any issues with that
Is there data on the max pressure this press is capable of handling? I am looking at this press as a good compromise for a swaging press. Thanks for the video!
Love the videos. As a new sunscriber and soon to be reloader they are very valuable. Suggestion- I really want to know country of origin of this hardware. I will only buy US or ally made hardware. I refuse to support Chicom products.
I bought another press to do the on board priming/sizing and I am gonna use this RCBS Summit to do bullet seating like Gavin did here. They make a solid steel arbor press style conversion also! It is like 26.00 accessory from RCBS.
Joe Jr, presses are available in a wide range of price points. You can get a Lee for about $40 to start out. No need to ask for a handout. Maybe GT will have another contest soon and you can enter for a chance to win a great package deal?
I bought a Lee press for strickly de-capping . it was on sale at Amazon for about $26 as I recall I forgot how much the decapping die was. however as a starter press for $26.00 that is lunch money for what three days.
Chevy 6299 this press in my opinion is better there is no reaching around a bar and you can see exactly in front of you. This press doesn't take up a lot of space at all there is only 2 tie downs on each side.
I think he has met a few. It might be more accurate to say that he hasn't met a piece of reloading equipment he didn't want to review. He's taking a hit for the team, guys.
Thank you for another great review. Waited for a while for you to review the RCBS Summit (I suggested this review a while so appreciate it). I personally love how this press seats bullets and how you can set it up anywhere at home or at the range quickly with the right base setup. It virtually eliminates bullet run out. The Summit also does work great with the Hornady die bushing conversion for even faster caliber switch over. I recommend buying the optional short handle because it makes seating bullets so much faster and easier and the press even more compact.
I have the Red, White and Blue limited edition Summit press there were only 2000 of the color combo made. This press is a beast I have the Hornady quick die changing system for it. This press is heavy duty. Only draw back to it doesn't come with the Short handle. Gavin is right on the money with the review of this press.
I have the same one and love it. I bought the short handle for seating bullets, it works well. I also bought the conversion kit so I can use it with Wilson dies as a arbor press.
@@jesusisalive3227regarding the smaller piece in the conversion kit, do you simply unscrew the shellholder adapter and replace with the bottom arbor piece?
@@luvtahandload7692
There is a nut under the press that you have to remove to take the shell holder off.
I can see how that would be good for higher calibers of 30-06 and up. Thanks for review.
I’d like to see how the overall run out is on the cases. Would be good info.!
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Vaughn Precision it is crap mate don’t buy one . I did and very much regret it
Dahut all the gear I run on the press is rcbs
Dahut I might have a bad one but RCBS have told me that they have some the broke. Gavin highlights that they don’t have vertical movement well mine has heaps the rear screws can’t go any tighter. I have been thinking about getting it re bored and sleeved to take the tolerance out of it
Wow look what you’ve done. He measures concentricity on every press now. I wanna see Base to Ogive numbers .
that press reeks of overkill, I think a guy would need 2 of those
Wow! I love the way this press looks and operates!
It's very cool!
That thing is a monster. At first blush, it looks as if you could _almost_ get away with not bolting it down! If you shortened the handle and/or gave it a bit of an upward bend, it would clear the tabletop.
The obvious question is "Why would I move from some other single-stage press to this?" The first answer which suggests itself is that all else being equal, solidity breeds concentricity; you aren't going to bend that ram pillar in any great hurry.
Just ordered my first RCBS press after watching this, it won't replace anything but I guarantee you I'll use it until the new is worn off lol. I prefer doing single operations anyway.
Nice!
Does this press provide any advantage as far as better function and better loads over a more traditionally designed single-stage press?
The RCBS Summit has ALL THE SLOP it needs. There is plenty of left-right slop for the die. The cartridge itself ALWAYS have front back slop because that is how you slide the case into the shell holder anyway. Combined, this is a self-aligning system which allows the case to center itself the die without undue pressures in any lateral direction.
I like that system seems to have a more even stable throw
Great video, as always. Merry Christmas
You can't use the gold medal dies with this press if loading longer overall length cartridges, like 270, 30-06 and longer. Notice when he runs the dies down, how the micrometer barely clears the hinged area as he seats the bullet. Just a heads up. Someone may have mentioned this all ready.
Yes you can
They make aftermarket primer catchers that are much nicer and not so cheap looking
YES FAR FAR better option!
Good review. Looks like a good product. {I Liked and Subscribed.} Third "RCBS Summit Press" review / explanation that I have seen this week. {Must be the hamster at the Y.T. headquarters sending out certain videos.} I really like my Forster/Bonanza Co-Ax press, but the Summit seems to be a quality tool.
Glad that you mentioned at the end of the video about the priming and powder charging,,,, I was thinking that you had missed 2 steps in the procedure. 🙂
RCBS' take on the Forester Co-ax?
On sizing I can see the press lifting up diagonally. I ll stick with the CoAx
Fascinating design; sort of reminds me of some of the swaging presses that move the die rather than the punch. How heavy would you describe it as relative to RCBS' standard SS offerings?
Can you measure that perfect concentricity?
Looks as though it is built ruggedly, the seating of bullets looks well engineered!
I very much enjoy your channel. Watched a lot of the reloading videos, then when I was looking for a phase converter, guess who showed back up.
I’m planning to make one of these of my own as a little machine shop project
Good deal Jake! Thanks for letting me know.
Is it possible to do "brass reforming" on the Summit press or is it still an "O-press" operation?
I ordered the smaller handle but I just cancelled it, I think more leverage is better, plus I like the idea of reaching up like an ape to grasp the handle, so cool 😎
How is it Matt? Do you like the long arm on the RCBS Summit press? Or did you chop it off and shorten it?
Matt Price Short handle is very helpful.
I like the small footprint of the Summit I just got but I prefer the balance of my MEC. The summit handle feels “heavy” while the MEC feels almost weightless.
Would you use a quick change system or would you use it as is?
Thanks nice video
Hey Gavin, thanks for the review of this press (even though it's 5 years old). I'm just getting into reloading and would like to ask you a couple of questions about the Inline Fabrication Ultramount. Putting aside the quick changeability of the mount what would you say are the next two best features of it? Thanks Craig
This and the M press seem to be very nice
I'm glad to see a review of this press. It might be an alternative to the hard to find Forster and MEC presses. How does the concentricity compare to other presses?
I've heard people say that but brownells is always trying to get me to buy the overrated coax every since I bought it on their site. It's in stock every time I check too.
I would also have an insane amount of reloading presses if I didn't pay for most of them as well.
Shoot lots and stay safe.
That's actually small enough you could take to the range a work a load up fast.
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What is the largest caliber this press will comfortably handle? Great video..
It will seat primers using a RCBS "Ram Priming Unit" die. Simple, very accurate and infinite depth seating adjustable!
Yes it will.
Hi Gavin, I know this video was sometime ago But can I use Forster Ultra Micrometer Seating Die with this press? As they sit tall in the die holder. Thanks in advance for any help. Pete
First of all thanks for a great channel! If you ever get The chance. Try The german bult turban cnc präzipress. That ting is a work of art. It is made in three size and has probably one of the worlds best alignment precision. It is rally expensive tho...
Thanks from Patrik from sweden
Thanks Patrik- I just reached out to them- interesting press!
@@Ultimatereloader thanks alot!
Can the summit also reload 9mm?
Why the cam -over in the setup? Won't that stress the linkage and wear it prematurely?
I can see this going to the range to workup loads.
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How does this press compare to the Lyman Brass Smith Ideal press
Great review Thank you and take care!
Was told this would not work with taller dies? Is this true?
How do you think this rates against a LE Wilson arbor press setup.
They make a solid steel flat face "machined plug and nut" for lack of better terminology, to convert this RCBS, to a arbor style setup, for $26.00. FWIW, I just ordered this press for 199.95 and the and the conversion at Natchez Shooters Supply
Can you use Hornady lock n load rings with dies on this press like you can with the rock chucker supreme?
*Edit - went to mfg site, indicates there is a removable outer bushing that is the size of the lock n load rings, so should work on this press
Love it. Will be buying one of these soon.
Gavin great information, I’ve been looking at this press and the Forester Co -Ax, I load rifle only for hunting and long range shooting. Do you prefer the RCBS Or the Forester and why? Thank you for the great videos always.👍
Going to start reloading. Would you recommend this press to a beginner?
Do you think this press will be doing good in reforming Brass, like the Rockchucker? The wide open Area is great for workimg aswell.
Gavin how do you compare the RCBS summit to the Forster Co-Axial single stage press and or the KM arbor press for bullet seating?
Where do you get the beach setup. Did you make it your self or can you buy the top.
Can I ask a question re: the RCBS Gold Medal dies. Do they crimp the bullet once it is seated ??
I seen this press with a dual handle with long and short handles, pulling from one side only seems to go un even. It does have a left side handle hole as well why not pull from both sides?
What is the brand name of the micrometer seating die? Thanks
Neat Press it does seem odd to see the die move and not the cartridge!
I have greatly enjoyed your vids. I am just now getting into reloading. Single stage only for now. I have an RCBS JR3 (1977 mfg) that has never been used. My dad bought it along with a Rem700 BDL 7mm rem mag. I also have the never touched RCBS dies and the rifle. Would you recommend using this press or should I buy something new like the MEC or the Forster Co-Ax?
@ common sense ---- Hello. Yours is a Four-year-old question. Guess the Channel owner did not read it. I will offer you an answer.
Go ahead and use the press that you have from your Dad! If you already have a Press and the dies, may as well use them. All reloading is about a 5-step process. Whether it is the old Ideal/Lyman hand-held "310 Tang-Tool" (aka: The Nutcracker) or a expensive bench mounted turret-style press. I have the Forster/Bonanza/Co-Ax press and like it. They are expensive. That is why I suggest that you use the RCBS you got from your Dad. Hope this helps, even though it was posted 4 years ago.
How does it compare to the Hornady Classic?
The press doesn't look sturdy. I'm used to seeing beefy looking parts. Maybe the viewing angle of the video doesn't do justice to this press. Only two small bolts to hold down the small base area of the press. Is there movement between the press base and the mounting bracket when case sizing?
Just watch your clip on the RCBS Summit Re loader. I really love your setup. Can you send me a parts list and stores where I can purchase this, so I can build my own re-loader station. Thanks a lot. You do really good clip. In fact, I will be purchasing a Ruger Precision rifle just because of your clip. You really sold me on that bolt action rifle.
Does not appear to be a way to prime cases using this press. How do you remove a stuck case from the die, if/when, that happens? Thanx.
I'm using the summit and number 19 rcbs shelholder for the.224 valkyrie and a case gauge but when I resize my case isn't sitting completely flush i set a cam over and it's the same. Any suggestions?
Not sure I like adjusting the dies in between the ram arms, I prefer them to be out in the open
I dig it..me as well.
Hank it’s not horrible to do but you are correct. Even with the cut out that’s the downside of this press.
Thanks for this, Gavin! The Summit might just be the press of my dreams. :-)
Thanks for the review Gavin, I love your channel but I heard lots of negative feedback about this press which is the remake of a 1960’s unsuccessful design, I will stick to my 30 + y/o Rockchucker that is still kicking.
I have a small portable reloading bench that I use. Does the press/inline mount have much forward torque when using?
Can Hornady Cam Lock Bullet Puller's be used on this press? The reason I ask is because of the puller handle length might get in the way of the dual arms.
It would be difficult to use.
Did you not need to us the elevated shell holder?
I like what I see of that press so far.. Well done..
So who makes that seating die?
Maybe a dumb question but can I use any brand of dies in this press?
Looks like the old Hollywood presses but it goes down to be different.
Gavin, Can you "Reform" Brass with that press?, how well does it work with say the "Lee Ram Prime" die set for priming?
I have used both the RCBS ram prime and the Lee ram prime with this press in conjunction with the Hornady Lock and Load system. Both get the job done but I do prefer the Lee ram prime in that the ram is sturdier if that makes sense to you.
what do you consider your favorite and most accurate press?
what is brand of the rail system mounted to the table? Do you have an affiliate link to that system?
Coax often imitated but never duplicated... Frankford Arsenal now RCBS
72gunslinger totally different idea. Summit is a above the bench and easily transported design. The two presses share little in design or operation.
Gavin how was the concentricity using this setup? Does the shell holder or die float like the Mec or coax?
He goes into more depth on it in his "14 Reloading Presses Compared" : the BIG Single-Stage Shootout I'm pretty sure its completely solid as far as the press goes but the shell holder has a spring snap in possibly. They make a solid steel, huge ,flat faced steel plug like part, with a nut to tighten it up on the bottom. fwiw. I just ordered it for 26.00 if you just want a heavy duty precision arbor press style setup.
I find that my summit press sticks and is hard on the up stoke when I full resize to the point I broke the cast where the handle screws I have you had any issues with that
Sounds like they messed up on the linkage maybe? That's assuming that you remembered to lube your case.
Is there data on the max pressure this press is capable of handling? I am looking at this press as a good compromise for a swaging press. Thanks for the video!
I haven't seen anything- what kind of swaging are you doing?
Does it come with its own shell holders or can you use any kind??
You can use any kind!
I use my single stage to occasionally pull bullets. This wont work with my rcbs collet puller - fyi
is this better than the FA M press..for bullet concentricity??
According to my testing, this has a SLIGHT edge :)
Seems like a ton of arm travel for what benefits?
Leverage :) - there's a shorty handle option as well...
Yeah... really! At rest (top) just like the song. It's a long way to the top. "if ya wanna rock & roll"
Dean Hudson Or as we say in Australia; "if you want a sausage roll"
That's what I said before I read your comment
@@Ultimatereloader the angle of the handle doesn't seem any good
Can you use QD bushings with this press ???
Yes the one Hornady makes.
What about RCBS Rock Chucker
Buys a table top press…mounts it on a riser!
😂
Love the videos. As a new sunscriber and soon to be reloader they are very valuable.
Suggestion- I really want to know country of origin of this hardware. I will only buy US or ally made hardware. I refuse to support Chicom products.
Do you use the riser because you are standing?
Yeah, wanted the "action" to be closer to eye level...
can Lee dies be used in a RCBS press?
Absolutely!
Love it. I’m getting it.
Prefer being able to do the primers on the press although this is pretty slick
I bought another press to do the on board priming/sizing and I am gonna use this RCBS Summit to do bullet seating like Gavin did here. They make a solid steel arbor press style conversion also! It is like 26.00 accessory from RCBS.
I use the Ram Primer by Lee on the Summit press, leeprecision.com/ram-prime.html works great and has a good primer seat feel with the short handle.
KTMsoldier1988 I use the RCBS primer die. No issues.
No need to grease the shaft?
There’s a grease fitting.
If you want to get rid of any of those presses send one my way. One like that. Anything single stage lol.
I don't see any floating of the case or die. I'm sure the Forster set up has less run out
I stand corrected..I see that this has the best.. of the lest run out..
Where do I recognize this guy from?
When are you going to start selling some of those presses? To me, for cheap.
Haha. :)
A bit of a giant nutcracker a bit of an espresso machine ....
ok that's a new one it would be perfect for 38 or 45 70 nice one last you have a lot of room
you have an insane press collection....what for?
To provide the best and most comprehensive info on reloading gear anywhere.
Guess you need a hand priming tool with it.
You have a lot of presses. I don't have any. I want to get into reloading. Can I have one of yours? I figured no harm in asking.
Joe Jr, presses are available in a wide range of price points. You can get a Lee for about $40 to start out. No need to ask for a handout. Maybe GT will have another contest soon and you can enter for a chance to win a great package deal?
I bought a Lee press for strickly de-capping . it was on sale at Amazon for about $26 as I recall I forgot how much the decapping die was. however as a starter press for $26.00 that is lunch money for what three days.
I can see the dies are going to be doing an awesome job but how is the press any better than any "O" press out there.
Chevy 6299 this press in my opinion is better there is no reaching around a bar and you can see exactly in front of you. This press doesn't take up a lot of space at all there is only 2 tie downs on each side.
Some good points David, Thanks.
Engineers at RCBS.. "Lets do something really stupid and see how many new reloaders we can sell it to".
I'm curious, why do you think this is, "...something really stupid..."?
Has Gavin ever met a piece of reloading equipment he didn't like?
I think he has met a few. It might be more accurate to say that he hasn't met a piece of reloading equipment he didn't want to review. He's taking a hit for the team, guys.