My great great great grandfather once thought about visiting Brazil for a week... So I always put that in, for that well known Irish Brazilian connection
When I'm managing at an L1/L2 level I invite so many players on trial that the UN has to investigate me for human trafficking charges. I'm mean you can't let the Premier League, Barca, PSG, Real rejects slip through, every now and then you find a golden nugget not good enough for PSG/Barca with five-star potential model citizen personality and 20 determination.
best intro's on the platform i'm telling you. I even watch his tutorials if they're about stuff i already know. Hell, even if he made my little pony tutorials i'd still probably watch them because this man is so interesting
just wanna say thanks Zealand! Just started my FM gameplay this year on FM20, and your channel has been amazing fore to learn from, it's been super addictive and your videos are a nice break to learn what I'm doing wrong also! Hope the channel grows!!
Note about using youth national teams to scout: This isn't just true for small clubs. I've found more future first team players by using this strategy in my Chelsea save than I have via my scouts. It's particularly useful after the first season as a way to find good regens.
You are by far the best FM content creator on UA-cam. You always have me howling with laughter and you're very informative! Top content my man, don't ever stop.
Depends on the club i guess, in bigger clubs it's harder to buy them for bargain price even if you make their morale abysmal lol. An even richer clubs would resign them for large contract even if the players are just 17 yo, kinda realistic...
Love ur vids. There is one additional scouting method I use: COACHES!!! I've used my coaches, fitness coaches, GK coaches ... any coach ... with high enough Judging Player Potential (and that's relative in the lower divisions) to scout my players when I'm in charge of some broke-ass lower division team. What they will do is weed out the half star and one star duds. Anyone who might be interesting, I reserve my scouts for them.
(aside from the tips in the video) At the semi-pro level I used the following scouting strategy to get myself to higher leagues: 1. Assign scout as 2nd job for all staff. Most staff you can get is abyssmal, so sign more of them. Instead of the 1 part-time scout you now have 10 part-time scouts. 2. Sign youth level released players from top division clubs. Most will be direct starters for you depending on the division you play in.
Pretty helpful this! If you are managing a team in the UK probably good to set a filter on second nationality: UK. Furthermore I would like a video on promoting from championship to premier league. A whole new world opens for you, but it's kinda overwhelming. What should you manage first? Build bigger stadium? Go sign a lot of new players? Spend on a few really good ones? Change tactic to defensive and adjust your team? Etc. Etc.
One aspect you could have included is to tap your Director of Football for suggestions. I do this for every new start (before I have scouts) - on day 1 I will ask for suggestions for free signings at every position I am sure to need improving (usually pretty much all of them). Then I leave him to search for players worthwhile to add to the club and sign them (in responsibilities section), but I keep final contract approval in my hands for the times when his player/salary doesn't make sense in my plans for the club. In my current Whitby save (playing Dafuge Challenge), the DOF has found me 3 very good players that I wouldn't have found on my own and they are all integral to the club as we move into League play in our 4th season.
Could you do a video on work permits. How to look how long is left. Best countries. Rules and regulations etc. Great videos by the way been hooked on them since getting the game a couple of weeks ago
A tip you forgot, especially if you do use attribute filtering, is increasing the player and youngster knowledge of your manager when using smaller clubs. This will give you more players and more knowledge of said players to start of with.
Is this not the thumbnail from the Under 5 million wonderkids video? Not complaining, just you have some really legendary thumbnails most of the time and I always love to see what you and Reece have put together.
I'm at the end of year 2 with Duedelange and I'm starting to think my board will never give me the option to increase scout range. They aren't declining my request, they aren't even giving the option. Europa group stage, and millions earned, and I'm still relying on my personnel's knowledge to find anyone outside Luxembourg.
1. Go to the home page of any playable League 2. Click on News > Transfers You will see a list of rumours about signings and loan targets, possibly even your own club. You can now consider poaching these targets, nice little way to find players that might play in your leaugue. Basically getting the media to scout for you.
On 2, you can also use affiliate clubs to expand world knowledge, other then using staff members. Personally I don't do 3 as I consider it "cheating" if the club allows it I might send a scout to these tournaments but I won't troll through the list of players. Plus I have hidden attributes on and always have my manager with low knowledge, as to prevent me "cheating" this way. 4 for me is also way too cheese lol, but if I might offer some of them trials if they pop up in recommendations. I never filter by attributes, ever. Makes it more "real" and challenging to me.
Handy trick as well if you don't consider it cheating. Scout players that are willing to come to you that are wanted by bigger clubs then you (or just as big if at the top).
Much better way for your triaslist not to impact your coaching staff and team spirit. Dump them in the u18. This allows you to offer them a trial longer then a week so you can get full knowledge without any real negative impact. ( Any talented youngster trains with the u23s/B team for me, u18 is the dumping ground.) Now you can have a lot more triaslist around. PS Clicking offer trial in the bottom corner on scouting screen limits it to one week in older versions of fm, as there was no default trial length. So instead right click on the name and do offer trial there and you can do 4 weeks. Generally you need 2 to 3 for full knowledge, depending on FM level, scouting package and player knowledge of your manager.
Alternatively, you could set up your screenflow for all the competitions you want feedback from, and then see the results from each round automatically, and then find some hidden gems that way.
I’ve got the generic large database loaded and can’t find any of these American yth players. Tried searching for amateur players, nothing comes up. I’ve got full knowledge of the USA as well. Any ideas?
Andre Napitupulu would I be able to do this on switch version? I made my manager American, had MLS as one of the 3 leagues I could select, but no US amateurs were showing up. Do I have go hire American staff? Or am I missing something?
It seems that in small nation's clubs you loose money every month no matter what. Even if you go way under wage budget. Is there any way to overcome this problem?
Great video again man - really useful! I have one question about scouting though. I’m in my third season and my Director Of Football / General Manager used to sign some good young & cheap players for the U19’s in the first half of my first season but then just stopped completely and he hasn’t signed anyone since then. I haven’t changed the staff responsibility, do you know any other reasons why that might be happening? 😬
Might be the wrong video to ask this question on, due to topic relevance, but I’ll ask anyway. I’m looking to develop a new tactic for my Rennes save. Looking to move away from the overused (IMO) 4-1-4-1 Wide to a 3-4-1-2 in attacking/positive games and 5-2-1-1 in defensive/cautious games. Now when it comes to adjusting that tactic throughout the season, how often should I do that? I see the assistant manager recommending changes all the time and it’s beyond annoying and my team is kind of temperamental about the tactics I have set up now from game to game. Anyway advice on how often to change and how to keep players invested to a tactic? Thanks.
I tried to do the American amateur scout trick but got nothing. Is it because I have MLS set to view only or because I dont have enough knowledge. I am an American manager, in year two of coaching in the Vanarama National league.
Really good video as usual, could you teach us how to use your Staff Knowledge to Scout that parts of the world without the scouting range? Despite selecting the member of the Staff with that knowledge I can't ask him to scout players from there...
You dont scout the nation the new coach is from. The new coach with the knowledge of a new country or region adds more players that are now visible into your player search pool :)
Before signing a new staff member check out his info page, it shows his knowledge level in different countries. After you sign him your player and staff search menu will display players and staff from these countries.
Trials helps for those free players who are big for your team but they're not that interested in coming at your club. If you trial them you'll increase or decrease their interest according their time in your club.
Random question, if you have a league on view only at the start, can you add it as a playable league later on? I’m starting at a really small team so don’t want Brazil Argentina etc slowing down my game when I’m not going to be signing their players for a long long time?
I play fm 19 with Tottenham and I’m on my 4th save but every save I have 20+ shots every game but I never score more than one goal a game and I end up being sacked after a few months I play with the instruction to work ball into box but I still can’t score
Hi! I need some advice about building a new stadium. For example, Chelsea save. After expanding only 57000 seats. And in 2027, after winning all in the world, affiliates in China, USA, Europe - the board still rejecting the new stadium because of the small fan base. How can I resolve it??
I need help. My captain (Daley Blind) is a model citizen and he’s key in my mentoring groups. He’s 33 in my save and I extended his contract for one more year. However, for some reason he has a light influence in my mentoring group, even though he’s still a team leader, playing consistently and he’s still my captain. How is this possible?
2 yr old late rant 12:51 USA and probably Canada and Australia in game would be the same. As they are closed league systems- there's no transfer or loans for those leagues pro or not in real life. There's no fee payment to transfer the player's clubs that would be corruption in those leagues. They have Draft picks- weakest teams have pick first of top players or player trades no $ involved... Youths don't get a salary or % profits... So they don't have an actual transfer contract cause you can't transfer. It's free for youth and (pros after their contract)
Someone please talk this through with me, I’m Fulham in 2030 i finished 5th last season I have a former PSG left winger cost 90 mil a wonderkid midfielder who’s insane etc I got rid of a striker because he didn’t get any game time last season apart from that I bought a new defender The tactics work for those players because I did well with them last season the young players have progressed a year, so why am I now 15th halfway through the season?????!! Is it because a few coaches got changed? They like the same formations and everything I don’t understand it seems I cannot use attacking mentality anymore either without conceding goals
I am managing in Mexico, I can sign players for around 10-20M without a problem, but I do all of these too... I mean how can you not sign 20 Americans with 4-5 stars potential for FREE.
I’m relative new to FM, I have a question about assignments, because my board does NOT give me fucking permissions to create new assignments, can I fix this?
Having trouble with the tip about the Americans. My character has an American background and 50% knowledge of the USA, however on player search only 6 Americans show up, and no young players.
Anyone please? i d like to ask something cause i m desperate to find a solution. I control both options of scouting and assigned every scout to a nation/region. I have 25 scouts. None of them returned with a young player recommendation. or many recommendations in general. Assignments last for months , i get 4-5-6 reports and always estimated time is N/A. Unless i stop them , i think they would never end. Moreover the country that a scout is assigned doesnt even show up in his knowledge even after months. What the f**k am i doing wrong?
Scouting at a small club: "hey boss, have you heard of this Mbappe guy? I recommend him, would only cost us about 250M euros"
“Sign him whatever the cost”
“He has the potential to become a star player at the club”
@@jackduignan5973
"At whatever cost"
Budget: £0.00
@@cameraman1234567890a 1 vs 11 10:0
This channel is amazing what would make it even better is twitch highlights or a full series
Why don’t you do a FM series on UA-cam
You’re a funny bastard Zealand. And a bloody helpful one aswell. Keep up the class work!
Fun tip: Dual nationality-if when you create your manager set yourself as coming from two countries you get double the knowledge
I am a dual citizen, but from 2 not so footballing countries, Canada and Australia, so it was mostly worthless
My great great great grandfather once thought about visiting Brazil for a week... So I always put that in, for that well known Irish Brazilian connection
When I'm managing at an L1/L2 level I invite so many players on trial that the UN has to investigate me for human trafficking charges. I'm mean you can't let the Premier League, Barca, PSG, Real rejects slip through, every now and then you find a golden nugget not good enough for PSG/Barca with five-star potential model citizen personality and 20 determination.
Haha UN investigating for human trafficking. Amazing!
Lmaoooo
best intro's on the platform i'm telling you. I even watch his tutorials if they're about stuff i already know. Hell, even if he made my little pony tutorials i'd still probably watch them because this man is so interesting
Remember to look for Canadians too, found some banging youth talents from young Canadians too
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No one gunna talk about the fact that intro was actually true on a deep level 😭😂
just wanna say thanks Zealand! Just started my FM gameplay this year on FM20, and your channel has been amazing fore to learn from, it's been super addictive and your videos are a nice break to learn what I'm doing wrong also! Hope the channel grows!!
Note about using youth national teams to scout: This isn't just true for small clubs. I've found more future first team players by using this strategy in my Chelsea save than I have via my scouts. It's particularly useful after the first season as a way to find good regens.
You are by far the best FM content creator on UA-cam. You always have me howling with laughter and you're very informative! Top content my man, don't ever stop.
go to all the clubs in the leagues below you within your scouting range and scout all their key players and hot prospects.
Can you do a video on how to set up your scouts ?
I usually let my chiefscout do the scouting but would like to do it myself.
First watch - this dude is bothering me, but damn he is really good explaining things and knows his shit. Tenth watch - I fucking love this guy
I think you should do a transfer negotiation video, I'm struggling to get players cheaper that what I buy them for
Depends on the club i guess, in bigger clubs it's harder to buy them for bargain price even if you make their morale abysmal lol. An even richer clubs would resign them for large contract even if the players are just 17 yo, kinda realistic...
scouting?
You look better with beard. And i believe: big beard brings the best videos 😁😁
Love ur vids. There is one additional scouting method I use: COACHES!!! I've used my coaches, fitness coaches, GK coaches ... any coach ... with high enough Judging Player Potential (and that's relative in the lower divisions) to scout my players when I'm in charge of some broke-ass lower division team. What they will do is weed out the half star and one star duds. Anyone who might be interesting, I reserve my scouts for them.
(aside from the tips in the video) At the semi-pro level I used the following scouting strategy to get myself to higher leagues:
1. Assign scout as 2nd job for all staff. Most staff you can get is abyssmal, so sign more of them. Instead of the 1 part-time scout you now have 10 part-time scouts.
2. Sign youth level released players from top division clubs. Most will be direct starters for you depending on the division you play in.
Some good tips and always find out something new with your videos. Keep up the good work.
Pretty helpful this! If you are managing a team in the UK probably good to set a filter on second nationality: UK.
Furthermore I would like a video on promoting from championship to premier league. A whole new world opens for you, but it's kinda overwhelming. What should you manage first? Build bigger stadium? Go sign a lot of new players? Spend on a few really good ones? Change tactic to defensive and adjust your team? Etc. Etc.
I think this intro made me laugh the most out of any video intro I’ve seen so far. I hope Jamison jr is a recurring character
Thanks so much for the content! Helped my game tremendously.
Love you videos, great information & your intros always make me laugh
One aspect you could have included is to tap your Director of Football for suggestions. I do this for every new start (before I have scouts) - on day 1 I will ask for suggestions for free signings at every position I am sure to need improving (usually pretty much all of them). Then I leave him to search for players worthwhile to add to the club and sign them (in responsibilities section), but I keep final contract approval in my hands for the times when his player/salary doesn't make sense in my plans for the club. In my current Whitby save (playing Dafuge Challenge), the DOF has found me 3 very good players that I wouldn't have found on my own and they are all integral to the club as we move into League play in our 4th season.
Lol happy to see Zealand mentioning a wonderkid from Vietnam in his video at 10:17
"Hope Zealand makes a video about this soon."
I feel attacked.
Could you do a video on work permits. How to look how long is left. Best countries. Rules and regulations etc. Great videos by the way been hooked on them since getting the game a couple of weeks ago
A tip you forgot, especially if you do use attribute filtering, is increasing the player and youngster knowledge of your manager when using smaller clubs. This will give you more players and more knowledge of said players to start of with.
Love the intro, and thanks for the trial invitation ;p
Is this not the thumbnail from the Under 5 million wonderkids video? Not complaining, just you have some really legendary thumbnails most of the time and I always love to see what you and Reece have put together.
Clubs will often accept trials for transfer listed players 😉
The intro is banging
I'm at the end of year 2 with Duedelange and I'm starting to think my board will never give me the option to increase scout range. They aren't declining my request, they aren't even giving the option. Europa group stage, and millions earned, and I'm still relying on my personnel's knowledge to find anyone outside Luxembourg.
😂😂😂😂 that intro was fantastic 😂😂😂
1. Go to the home page of any playable League
2. Click on News > Transfers
You will see a list of rumours about signings and loan targets, possibly even your own club. You can now consider poaching these targets, nice little way to find players that might play in your leaugue. Basically getting the media to scout for you.
On 2, you can also use affiliate clubs to expand world knowledge, other then using staff members. Personally I don't do 3 as I consider it "cheating" if the club allows it I might send a scout to these tournaments but I won't troll through the list of players. Plus I have hidden attributes on and always have my manager with low knowledge, as to prevent me "cheating" this way. 4 for me is also way too cheese lol, but if I might offer some of them trials if they pop up in recommendations. I never filter by attributes, ever. Makes it more "real" and challenging to me.
And number 5 in-game editor
Handy trick as well if you don't consider it cheating. Scout players that are willing to come to you that are wanted by bigger clubs then you (or just as big if at the top).
Much better way for your triaslist not to impact your coaching staff and team spirit. Dump them in the u18. This allows you to offer them a trial longer then a week so you can get full knowledge without any real negative impact. ( Any talented youngster trains with the u23s/B team for me, u18 is the dumping ground.) Now you can have a lot more triaslist around.
PS Clicking offer trial in the bottom corner on scouting screen limits it to one week in older versions of fm, as there was no default trial length. So instead right click on the name and do offer trial there and you can do 4 weeks. Generally you need 2 to 3 for full knowledge, depending on FM level, scouting package and player knowledge of your manager.
RE signing trialists. In many leagues free agents can be signed at anytime. Also, younger players do not need to be registered in some leagues.
"scouting when poop" is a damn precise thumbnail.
Wow this is amazing as i'm currently managing in Wales. Only downfall is that I'm at a semi pro club
FM Base that’s the aim. Will be a long journey
me with a wolverhampton wanderers save: ah yes this is useful
Alternatively, you could set up your screenflow for all the competitions you want feedback from, and then see the results from each round automatically, and then find some hidden gems that way.
Great content! You have a new subscriber
Great vid again Zealand. Could you do a video on negotiating please?
Really cool beard
Trialists are the reason I have found the quality players to get Cwmamman United (Wales) qualified for Europe end of my second season. 👍
The Australian one is fairly similar, they have youth contracts and you can sign them for nothing pretty much
I’ve got the generic large database loaded and can’t find any of these American yth players. Tried searching for amateur players, nothing comes up. I’ve got full knowledge of the USA as well. Any ideas?
Hire native scouts, and send them there?
Andre Napitupulu would I be able to do this on switch version? I made my manager American, had MLS as one of the 3 leagues I could select, but no US amateurs were showing up. Do I have go hire American staff? Or am I missing something?
I haven't checked all the comments but some Danish and Norwegian youngsters have Amateur contracts too
We need longer videos!
We are about talk about the strength of coach knowledge
one thing I did in my FM2019 save:
search for unhappy players of higher divisions... some of them will accept loans with low % wage payment. :p
Nice SOAD reference.
It seems that in small nation's clubs you loose money every month no matter what. Even if you go way under wage budget. Is there any way to overcome this problem?
I want scouting guide at any club cause all I use is shortlist’s
Great video again man - really useful! I have one question about scouting though. I’m in my third season and my Director Of Football / General Manager used to sign some good young & cheap players for the U19’s in the first half of my first season but then just stopped completely and he hasn’t signed anyone since then. I haven’t changed the staff responsibility, do you know any other reasons why that might be happening? 😬
Hey Zealand where do you find the offer trial tab in staff responsibilities? I wanna change it from 1 week to 2 weeks...
Why can’t I offer trial to players that aren’t in the hub of the scouts?
Very late to the club, but as a Venezuelan, I approve of the smuggling
Trials also can decrease the wages needed for a player.
15:14 - Zeiland it's scouting Zeiland itself
Genie scout
Time saved
Every club James has been at in a nutshell " Hi James, go away"
I like this original intro music better.
Might be the wrong video to ask this question on, due to topic relevance, but I’ll ask anyway. I’m looking to develop a new tactic for my Rennes save. Looking to move away from the overused (IMO) 4-1-4-1 Wide to a 3-4-1-2 in attacking/positive games and 5-2-1-1 in defensive/cautious games. Now when it comes to adjusting that tactic throughout the season, how often should I do that? I see the assistant manager recommending changes all the time and it’s beyond annoying and my team is kind of temperamental about the tactics I have set up now from game to game. Anyway advice on how often to change and how to keep players invested to a tactic? Thanks.
I tried to do the American amateur scout trick but got nothing. Is it because I have MLS set to view only or because I dont have enough knowledge. I am an American manager, in year two of coaching in the Vanarama National league.
Will you ever do a vid on weather and how it affects matches?
Alpaca Waka Watch “Getting ready for match day” from 18:00 minutes in
Oh, thanks Reece :)
Really good video as usual, could you teach us how to use your Staff Knowledge to Scout that parts of the world without the scouting range? Despite selecting the member of the Staff with that knowledge I can't ask him to scout players from there...
You dont scout the nation the new coach is from. The new coach with the knowledge of a new country or region adds more players that are now visible into your player search pool :)
@@NateAlan thanks man! Appreciate the help!
Before signing a new staff member check out his info page, it shows his knowledge level in different countries. After you sign him your player and staff search menu will display players and staff from these countries.
@@jeffyke got it, you guys opened a new world of possibilities for me! Lol
Can you do a video on how to get the ur game logos?
Where in staff responsibilities is the trial length? Can’t seem to find it.
I think that trials have a cost, I actually remember checked that on economy panels
Trials helps for those free players who are big for your team but they're not that interested in coming at your club.
If you trial them you'll increase or decrease their interest according their time in your club.
Love your channel! I have a question. Why fm gives the chance to offer a trial for 4 weeks if you only need 2 to scout in full?
How do I set my trials to 2 weeks?
Random question, if you have a league on view only at the start, can you add it as a playable league later on? I’m starting at a really small team so don’t want Brazil Argentina etc slowing down my game when I’m not going to be signing their players for a long long time?
I play fm 19 with Tottenham and I’m on my 4th save but every save I have 20+ shots every game but I never score more than one goal a game and I end up being sacked after a few months I play with the instruction to work ball into box but I still can’t score
Does anyone know where to change the default trial length, I can’t find it anywhere in staff responsibilities? Any help would be great!
Jammeson jr to mr bawsss.... "who the fk are u?..im the janitor " 💦
Quick one, do you have any tips to find release clausus on players? I am willing to find cheep ones but I dont know how to.
What difference does it make with having multiple data analysts in one team? I notice that my analysts are always listed as "unassigned."
Where do you change the standard trial periode from 1 week to 2 weeks?
Hi! I need some advice about building a new stadium.
For example, Chelsea save. After expanding only 57000 seats.
And in 2027, after winning all in the world, affiliates in China, USA, Europe - the board still rejecting the new stadium because of the small fan base.
How can I resolve it??
How do you change the default trial length? Can't find it in game or on Google
Muy buen titulo
I need help. My captain (Daley Blind) is a model citizen and he’s key in my mentoring groups. He’s 33 in my save and I extended his contract for one more year. However, for some reason he has a light influence in my mentoring group, even though he’s still a team leader, playing consistently and he’s still my captain. How is this possible?
2 yr old late rant 12:51 USA and probably Canada and Australia in game would be the same. As they are closed league systems- there's no transfer or loans for those leagues pro or not in real life. There's no fee payment to transfer the player's clubs that would be corruption in those leagues.
They have Draft picks- weakest teams have pick first of top players or player trades no $ involved... Youths don't get a salary or % profits... So they don't have an actual transfer contract cause you can't transfer. It's free for youth and (pros after their contract)
I love you man . No homo
I'm guessing on my English League save because I can't see any US clubs' academy, you need to have the US league added.
Yes. You funnily enough need a league added to be able to scout players in those leagues.
You don't understand, but that's ok.
Someone please talk this through with me, I’m Fulham in 2030 i finished 5th last season I have a former PSG left winger cost 90 mil a wonderkid midfielder who’s insane etc I got rid of a striker because he didn’t get any game time last season apart from that I bought a new defender
The tactics work for those players because I did well with them last season the young players have progressed a year, so why am I now 15th halfway through the season?????!! Is it because a few coaches got changed? They like the same formations and everything I don’t understand it seems I cannot use attacking mentality anymore either without conceding goals
I signed a US coach with 100% knowledge but no US players under 19 appear?
Which twitch video is your new save I’m trying to watch you from the start so I can see how you set your club up season 1
FM Base thanks your tips have help to enjoy this games.
Scouting on this level will take hours to do. Wow.
So does this mean I can get free Canadian players too since the CPL is in North America
I am managing in Mexico, I can sign players for around 10-20M without a problem, but I do all of these too... I mean how can you not sign 20 Americans with 4-5 stars potential for FREE.
I’m relative new to FM, I have a question about assignments, because my board does NOT give me fucking permissions to create new assignments, can I fix this?
Staff responsibilities, take control of your scouting
Zealand Legend, see you on twitch!
Having trouble with the tip about the Americans. My character has an American background and 50% knowledge of the USA, however on player search only 6 Americans show up, and no young players.
How do we earn money in the game?
Can I install skins in Football Manager using the Xbox Game Pass edition?
Anyone please? i d like to ask something cause i m desperate to find a solution. I control both options of scouting and assigned every scout to a nation/region. I have 25 scouts. None of them returned with a young player recommendation. or many recommendations in general. Assignments last for months , i get 4-5-6 reports and always estimated time is N/A. Unless i stop them , i think they would never end. Moreover the country that a scout is assigned doesnt even show up in his knowledge even after months. What the f**k am i doing wrong?
Just raid u19, u23 national teams, as well as clubs like Barcelona B/Real Madrid B