Southern Generals & Admirals Who Chose To Fight For The Union
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- During the American Civil War, most Southerners remained loyal to their home states, but others defied their roots to fight for the Union and the abolition of slavery. These are some of the Southern commanders who chose the Union.
#CivilWar #History #America
Major General Winfield Scott | 0:00
Admiral David Farragut | 1:00
Major General George Henry Thomas | 2:06
Brigadier General William Rufus Terrill | 3:15
Brevet Major General Philip St. George Cooke | 4:26
Brigadier General Edmund Jackson Davis | 5:44
Major General John Gibbon | 6:44
Rear Admiral John Ancrum Winslow | 7:34
Brevet Major General Robert Anderson | 8:37
Quartermaster General Montgomery C. Meigs | 9:40
Voiceover by: Tim Bensch
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Was this the first time you had heard of any of these soldiers who fought in the civil war?
These men were famously known!! I'm from the south and most of my family fought for Dixie . But God bless men who stayed steadfast to their convictions ! Stay true to your self! Blue or Grey.
Nope. Ive known a good number of them.
A few them, yes.
Scott was too old to command the Army but he developed a plan to defeat the South. it was derisively labeled the Anaconda Plan but it was the plan that eventually won the war. Scott is probably the most underrated General in American history. No less than Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington called him the greatest general of the age. Scott had an understanding of strategy that was 50 years ahead of his contemporaries both at home and abroad.
Not only was Thomas the most underrated general of the civil war, he is also one of the most underrated generals in the entire history of warfare.
There were three times during the Sedition the Confederate forces were run off the field: Mill Springs, KY, Jan, 1862; Missionary Ridge, TN, Nov. 1863; and Nashville, TN, Dec. 1864. On all three occasions the Union commander was Thomas (with significant assistance at Missionary Ridge from the much-maligned Joe Hooker), and he pulled off the latter two in spite of serious interference from Grant the Great.
@@rifelaw Thomas rocked!
INDEED AND AGREED 💯 ABOUT:
"THE ROCK OF CHICKAMAUGA"
"THE SLEDGE OF NASHVILLE"
"PAP" AND "SLOW TROT"
He was the best general in the war hands down.
Sidenote:
While as an Instructor at West Point, he taught some of the students whom later he defeated in battle during the Civil War.
Notably: GEN. JOHN BELL HOOD AT NASHVILLE!!!
Also as a Cavalry Instructor at the Point, he honed the skills of Cadet James Elwell Brown (JEB) Stuart.
General Scott did not join the Union Army. He joined the United States Army.
Yeah those 2 things are the same thing
He was the commander in chief to begin with
@@andycockrum1212 Nah. Union generally means the U.S. army only during the Civil War. It's better to say Unlisted States instead of Union anyway because it's more impactful and separates the U.S. military from those domestic terrorist who murdered United States military members better than the term Union.
😂 @@top_gallant
What about cavalry officer John Buford? He was a Kentuckian who was married to a Southern sympathizer, had relatives who would fight for the South, his family owned slaves, and was issued a letter by the Governor of Kentucky offering him a generous posting with accompanying rank and privileges if he relinquished his commission as a US officer, and yet he remained loyal and is greatly credited with tipping the balance in the Union's favor at the pinnacle Battle of Gettysburg.
AGREED 💯
Kentucky stayed in the union
@@chancellor1055 A Border State
Helluva a man
Didn't mention that the Anaconda Plan, which choked Southern ports was Winfield Scott's idea
It's a little strange to bring up Adm Farragut and not mention the Battle of Mobile Bay.
Both capturing New Orleans and attacking Vicksburg were important, but the Battle of Mobile Bay is his most famous battle. As the Union ships sailed into the bay past Forts Morgan and Gaines there were "torpedoes", as they called mines during that time, in the waters of the channel into the bay. The ships were in two columns, with ironclad monitors in the one closest to the nearer fort to screen the other non ironclads. The lead monitor, the USS Tecumseh was sunk by a torpedo, and the USS Brooklyn & Octorara (lashed together) the lead ships in the other column stopped. Then RAdm Farragut, strapped up in the mast of his flagship, called down to Captain Drayton "Damn the torpedoes! Four bells. Captain Drayton, go ahead! Jouett, full speed!" The last part was to the commanding officer of the USS Metacomet which was lashed to his flag ship USS Hartford. This order has been paraphrased to the more widely known "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
With this order the USS Hartford & Metacomet went around the USS Brooklyn & Octorara to lead the rest of the Union ships into the bay. Once in the bay they fought the Confederate ships there, forcing the ironclad CSS Tennessee and one of the three gunboats to surrender. They damaging another gunboat so bad she had to beach herself.
The last gunboat sought protection under the guns of Fort Morgan, and slipped away to Mobile during the night.
Mobile Bay was strategically less important than New Orleans, but certainly the more quotable moment! I had only heard the paraphrased version of that quote, never the full version. Thanks for sharing that!
One General not mentioned was Major General Jesse Reno. Born in Virginia Reno was in the same class as Stonewall Jackson at West Point. Reno was the commander of the Union IX Corps and would be killed at the Battle of South Mountain possibly by friendly fire. His loss would have grave consequences for the Union Army just a couple of days later, as the IX Corps sluggish progress across the Antietam Creek allowed AP Hill enough time to come to the aid of the collapsing Confederate Army.
AGREED 💯
Kentucky was not in the confederacy
Thomas was also known as Old Pap and the Sledgehammer of Nashville
Very interesting. Thank You. There were Northerners that fought for the South also. John C. Pemberton, the Confederate commander at Vicksburg was from Philadelphia.
George Cooper from New York was the highest ranking General in the confederate army.
Wouldn't Yankees that fought for the south, be considered traitors by the north? Mv
@@markvasquez9023yes, they traitors just like the rest of the confederates.
At least a few honored their oath of loyalty and fought for the nation, not the traitors. God bless them.
More than just a few. Every state in the Confederacy except South Carolina had Union regiments.
go buy rope those were the traitorslong live the confedaration
@@alexlehrersh9951didn't last long lmfao
It never died in the hearth of brave and inocent humans@@SirSparrowHawk
The Traitors were Lincoln and his uniformed subordinates who failed to adhere to the U.S. Constitution, and were responsible for the War of Northern Aggression!
I think some navy bilge rat is gonna point this out, so I'll do it first. Farragut didn't "receive his commission as an admiral", he achieved flag rank. He received his commission way back when he became an ensign or whatever they called the bottommost officer rank. And the navy ships weren't "commissioned in his honour", they were just named after him.
Yeah this site is not too well known for checking their facts before publishing
This site is not too well known for checking ITS facts…
(Site is singular.)
An excellent video.
The names that all those bases in the South should have had all along. The ones with *real* honor.
In the War of 1812, Winfield Scott served in the United States Army, not the Union Army.
Is there a difference? Excuse my ignorance.
@@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 The “Union” Army was only called that in reference to the U.S. Civil War in which the Confederates, of course, favored disunion.
@@aguy559 Ah ok
@@aguy559, "disunion" as outlined in the U;S Constitution!
Great video These men make the right side of history.!!! No man or woman should ever held a slave .!!! Thank you General Grant May you rest in power .!!!
Thomas - his family kept his photo on the wall - turned to the wall - a shame to the family.
My eternal gratitude and respect for those who kept faith with their oath to preserve and protect the constitution of the United States above the insurrectionist states where they were born. These are the true patriots.
On my wife's side of the family, 19 Tuckers went north from Alabama and fought for the Union. No generals but patriots all.
Over a hundred thousand white southerners from the states that seceded fought for the Union. And that’s not even counting the southern states that remained in the Union.
God bless those who fought for the Union Army 🇺🇸
Hogwash ! Blue belly yankee dogs.
@@1946lukebe quiet you Live in this nation. We are the Union. Sore yellow belly southerners.
Amen
Please go to Russia or China-traitor@@1946luke
National interests Trump's states rights
Fascinating.
Only heard of Farragut.
This is quite a list. These men fought and defended the Union and the Constitution despite having Southern ties. Forgot about John Buford.
Totally agreed. Gettysburg may not have been won had it not been for him choosing the terrain and the way he positioned his cavalry troops.
No mention of William S. Harney?
Where is John Buford, you show the pic of John Gibbon but forgot about the guy sitting who was the first one to go into skirmish at the bloody battle of Gettysburg!
One more comment:
Snow grass Hill, where Thomas made his stand allowing the Union Army to redeploy after Chickamauga, is really awesome to see. 👀
The whole battlefield is actually a wonderful experience !
Great video, please follow up with the stories of what happened to the confederate officers after the war.
They told themselves what stupid fools they were for thinking they had a god given right to own other people and do whatever they felt like to them. Oh wait, no what they really did was spread lies that the war wasn't over slavery and that they were acting as any honorable person would when faced with the choice of breaking their oaths to their nation or joining a war to keep colored people as property FOR ALL ETERNITY as written in the Confederate Constitution.
CaV-alry, NOT CaL-vary, puhleeze. 😊 P.S. Calvary was the hill upon which J was crucified.
Many of Confederate statues that were removed should be replace by Southern Union generals like Winfield Scott and George Thomas.
IIRC Union officers who remain loyal were considered by some in the Union government as suspect. Despite their proven duty and devotion
And many rose to high rank and were given prestigious commands.
That’s cavalry not Calvary
Admiral David Farragut born one day after independence in 1801 in TN? That is a confusing statement and not accurate.
COL. BENJAMIN F. "GRIMES" DAVIS of ALABAMA/MISSISSIPPI who moved his regiment, "THE 6th NEW YORK CAVALRY" out of Harper's Ferry before the garrison was captured by "Stonewall" Jackson during Antietam in 1862 and capturing a Confederate supply train. He was killed during the first or second day at Gettysburg in a engagement with the Confederate Cavalry.
He was on the list for promotion to Brigadier General.
That battle footage is from the Antietam documentary I worked on many years ago.
That is really cool.
As a middle -aged life-long Southerner from a family that has lived in the South for generations, I love my home and the beauty of this region. I love the people and the thought of taking up arms against my neighbors would be terrible. But nowhere as terrible as the life of a human being forced into the brutal and inhumane existence of a slave. In my heart, I know that slavery and racial discrimination is an abomination. As much as it would damage my soul, I would be willing to take up arms against my very family if they chose to support such an evil, Godless, institution as slavery. And , as a Soldier, Sailor, or Marine, you swear an oath to this country. There isn't a 'unless I think I have a good excuse' clause with that oath. I wouldn't take it lightly in any way. But I'd still fight anyone who thinks they have a right to own other human beings.
You are a very honorable and noble person for being willing to fight against the evil of slavery and do what is right even if it means fighting against your own family to do so.
Every person should stand for the morals. I agree. Regardless of the state, slavery needed to be destroyed so I give credit to the southerners who joined the north to put an end to slavery.
Life long southerner, maybe. But at heart, you sound like a blue belly yankee.
Consider that for every officer who broke their oath and joined the rebellion three southern born officers remained loyal to the nation and fought against them. More of Lee's relatives wore blue than grey.
I'm very proud of your 21st century morals judging those 162 years ago in the 19th century when slavery was a world wide institution morally accepted in almost every culture in the world.
Very good presentation but mounted troops are CA-VAL-RY.
Sorry…just a pet peeve of mine.
It's a pet peeve of mine, too, and about 90% of people mispronounce this word. UGH!!! CA-VAL-RY!!!
Kentucky was unionist in majority same to Missouri, Maryland and Delaware! West Kentucky and a very few counties in other regions were Confederate sentiment areas in Kentucky. The Little Dixie (the main slavery populated region ) was Proconfederate in Missouri. For example Hanibal Mark Twain's native town was Proconfederate in the Little Dixie and Mark Twain joined to the Proconfederate militia in 1861, but he became Prounionist in Nevada in 1863! The most Proconfederate region was the East-South East counties to Washington and Baltimore with high % slaves in Maryland. The future West Virginia gave almost equal soldiers to South and the North, but Delaware (the lowest % slave populated state) gave the most soldierst to the Unio!
BTW:
White soldiers in the Confederacy ( I do not know the Navy numbers but Rear admiral Farragut arrived from East Teenneessee!)
Alabama 2,700
Arkansas 9,000
Florida 1,000
Georgia 2,500
Louisiana 5,000
Mississippi 545
North Carolina 10,000
Tennessee 31,000
Texas 2,000
Virginia and
West Virginia 21,000-23,000
It might have been more because Georgia, Alabama and Texas had bigger % unionist people, only the Unionist Army either did not reach them or reached them too late. But the Alabama Cavalry Unionist regiment fought with Sherman in Georgia and in the Carolinas. Not only Jones county in Mississippi (Hollywood made movie from it) or East Tennessee but Winston in Alabama county also seccessed from the Confederacy. 2 unionist East Tennessee regiments fought with general Thomas at the battle of Mill Springs in 1862.
The 200 000 colored Unionist soldiers and the 100 000 white southern Unionist soldiers role was important in the Unionist Victory!
I would caution on the West Virginia numbers because though WV fielded a lot of political union officers I didn’t realize that a lot of the rank and file men who formed WV units came from west Pennsylvania and south east Ohio.
@@therambler3055 West Virgian regiments had more than 35 000 soldiers. You are right about 21000 soldiers came from West Virginia a more soldiers came from Ohio and Pennsylvania. The nowdays West Virginia got a few proconfederate sentiment counties during the War. The original plan was a less territory state, when the name of the newer state was other. .
against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC
Fascinating, but background music sucks really. Very distracting.
Was Major General John Buford left out for a reason?
Buford was from Kentucky(as was Abraham Lincoln) while a slave state, it was not part of the Confederacy
@@TomWilson-sy4jo … Kentucky had two state governments simultaneously. Plus was under federal occupation.
Did you forget John Buford I believe was from Kentucky
Considering that for every one officer who resigned to become a rebel, three remained loyal to their oaths and fought with the Union this list is waaaaaay too short.
The Union Rocks!
The narrator keeps saying “Calvary” - it’s “Cavalry”!
A little nit picky but it’s “cavalry” not Calvary.
What about General John Bufford.
During the Civil War most Southerners stayed loyal to their states. Yeah because of the conscription act of 1862. As of April that year every white male 18-35 serve. The majority of Southerners fought for the rebels because they got drafted.
Every Southern state except South Carolina provided organized regiments of white soldiers to the Union Army, around 100,000 men. This is of course not counting the 100s of thousands of slaves who fought for their freedom.
The north drafted men, too.
@@ValerieGriner The difference was the C.S.A. was police state. The United States drafted about 10% of its troops. The rebs drafted 100% of its troops from April 62 on. Pass books were required to travel for every person. The rebels stole so much civilian food starving women rioted. They closed all colleges eventually.
@@ValerieGrineryah, after the confederacy started their draft.
In fact all West Point graduates swore on their honor as men and soldiers to defend the US Union. Those who went with their state's failed to honor this pledge. Those who stayed with the Union, kept their honor.
Those who fought for the Confederacy were UPHOLDING certain inalienable RIGHTS of the CONSTITUTION...like STATES" RIGHTS! Do your homework.
@@ValerieGrinerthe Confederacy fought for slavery. They said so themselves. The Confederacy didn’t give a shit about rights.
Got to check your facts again, Winfield Scott did not join the Union Army at the War of 1812 he joined the United States Army. United States Army did not identify itself as the Union Army till the Civil War after the War the Union Army again reverted to the title of the United States Army.
Too bad Henry Thomas died at 53. He was a great man. The Southerners built statues of Lee, Davis, Forrest and other Rebel leaders. They never dedicated any to the true heroes like Thomas and Farragut. 40% of officers and 60% of enlisted men from the South stayed in the Union Army. My guess is the officers wanted to protect their plantations but the enlisted men had nothing to defend.
Interesting story- at the start of the Civil War, the best officers tend to side with the Confederacy. However, at least 85% of the Non-commissioned Officers sided with the Union.
As we've seen for 250 years, the Sergeants are the backbone of any American Army. That's why the Union Army, while poorly led, never came close to disintegrating.
George Henry Thomas may have been the best Generals in the Civil War. He destroyed a Confederate army at Nashville in one of the most brutal one sided battles in the war leaving the entire South open to Sherman. He’s been forgotten because he feuded with Grant during the war and died before writing his own memoirs like most of the other Generals had a chance to do.
Destroyed is an understatement lol, he annihilated Hoods army
Also he burnt his personal letters /probably wouldn’t have written memoirs because he was an intensely private person.
I agree that he probably was the best commander on either side. His stand on Snodgrass Hill is legend
@@totallynotalpharius2283 Hood may win the prize for worst general in any army during the Civil War. I never understood naming a fort after him
@@jasonking3182you could make an argument for that at army command. But there is no doubt he was a fantastic brigade and division commander. Army command was just to much for him.
@@jasonking3182 Braxton Bragg would like to have a word with you about incompetent Generals.
Remained loyal to the United States of America...
Now do Generals from the north who chose to fight for the south. I can think of several. Why do you keep saying "Union Army" when talking about the time before the Civil War? It should be U.S. Army.
I was wondering, besides those who faught for the union cause of ending slavery, how many southerners sided with the Union, and were against slavery?
Sided with the Union? A significant minority. Over a hundred thousand white southerners from the states that seceded fought for the Union in the civil war, and thousands more form the southern states that didn’t secede fought for the Union.
I know this wasn't a complete list, but don't forget Wm. P. Sanders. 🇺🇸 The fort which would be renamed in his honor is where Longstreet lost 800+ men in only 20 minutes, against General Ambrose Burnside, just 10 days after President Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address !
🎩 📜 ⛓️ 🇺🇸 🗽 ⚖️ 🐴
Some true Southerners, unlike the traitors who betrayed their oaths to the constitution
The Constitution isn’t anti-secession.
🛵 So if you fight for the North you're a true Southerner. That really doesn't sound right.
The oath was not the same as it is now. It was to THEM and THERE enemies foreign or domestic. For the south THERE enemies where domestic 🤦♂️. It doesn’t matter how you feel about them. They kept there oath as it was written prior to the war.
@@therambler3055 🛵 THEIR enemies.
@@mikethebike2456 yup
It’s funny that all the southern people who fought for the north were from Virginia
Have you never heard of West Virginia?
Except for the ones from Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Texas, North Carolina, Louisiana, Florida and Missouri.
Yeah I have family members who fought on both sides of the war
For every southern officer who turned against the United States, 3 remained loyal and fought against them. Even most of R.E. Lee's relatives were fighting against him, not with him.
"@@TruthFiction "When I find the word "Virginia" on my commission, then I'll fight for the Confederacy." - Samuel Phillips Lee.
I suppose it took integrity.But they must have had a hard time trying to go back home as traitors!
Bad music.
I'd argue that the southerners who fought for the union are the ones who remained loyal.
God Bless, Gen. Bill T. Sherman. He did an excellent
clean up of the Nectarine 🍑 State, back in 18 & 64. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
🛵 Really low quality crass humor as an attempt to argue with someone in a different state. An embarrassment to any comment section.
Winfield Scott was what, what, what?? You say Winfield Scott was the top "Union" general in the Mexican War? What a disappointing disgrace to social media research and scholarship.
You're kidding, right? Help us readers of your content. Please. You're saying that there was such a thing as a Union general during the Mexican War? You're saying that the Union and the Confederacy existed at the time of the Mexican War? You're saying that Winfield Scott was a "Union" general during the Mexican War? Seriously? How much work exactly did you put into creating this content? Please be honest.
Did you happen to ask any Andrew Jackson historians before you jumped to conclusions to announce to the world? Did you even research any definitive or creditable historical source work on Andrew Jackson and his views on this Union?
Let's be clear for all of your viewers who depend on YOU for honest and historically believable and accurate content, OK?
For them and the rest of us, it's about balance, facts, credibility, believability, and non-AI, real-live human, shoe leather research. Si? Right?
To be clear in the face of your head-shaking post, there were no "Union" or "Confederate" generals during the Mexican War. They all served under the United States of America to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America (not the Confederacy). Y
ou know that, right? They all wore blue uniforms during the Mexican War, right? You know that, are we correct?
In the Mexican American War, you're not saying that some soldiers wore blue uniforms and some wore gray uniforms, right?
Or are you claiming otherwise, and that the rest of the evidence-based research world is wrong on that?
You've read the U.S. Constitution and 14th amendment Section 3, correct?
Summary. Your conclusion as stated in our video, regretfully, clearly oversimplifies and distorts history that it is so staggering as to deprive reasonable people of the clear opportunity for clear thinking. Instead, in my opinion it appears to give your readers the illogical alternative of surrendering evidence-based, well-reasoned thinking to soupy Confederacy brain fog based on the impossible notion that a system based on the buying and selling of human beings based on color, is OK. You can't really believe this, right?
Have you ever heard of the battle of Buena Vista and General Zachary Taylor's undefeated record? Did you ever inquire as to why Polk chose Winfield Scott to advance from Vera Cruz to Mexico City instead of Taylor?
Did you ever think about inquiring about whether Santa Anna was more worried about General Winfield Scott or General Zachary Taylor? Why did he even decide to redirect Mexican troops from Scott to instead send troops to attempt to defeat Taylor?
Did you ever even venture to research James Polk and how he was threatened by Taylor's repeated and undefeated successes even after Polk stripped most of Taylor's army and transferred it (including U.S. Grant) to General Winfield Scott because he was petrified that Taylor was becoming more famous than him because of his victories on the battlefields of Mexico??
Please remind us all. Was it General Winfield Scott or was it General Zachary Taylor whose successes in the Mexican War led to them to becoming President of the U.S.? I don't recall Winfield Scott ever winning the Presidency, nor to I ever recalling him successfully facing that odds that Taylor faced at the battle of Buena Vista.
Was it not Taylor who drew away the mass of Santa Anna's forces from Scott's Mexico City target only to lose to Taylor leaving Scott to face weaker forces?
You may want to go back and check in with historians and with U.S. Grant biographers to rethink your #1 absolutist conclusions about Scott vs. Taylor.
Please. Let's make your channel about facts and history instead of just about making money. Advertising revenue is better when it is merited by respect, and the weight of solid research, history, evidence, and facts.
Please don't take this personally. Instead it is an appeal to not be lazy you to aspire to the higher standards of integrity over the seductions of UA-cam and Google Adwords
Just the term "remained loyal to their home states" is a term for traitors. Loyalty would have meant remaining in the U.S. Army. Putting your state ahead of your oath to your country is simply traitorous.
Interesting history, poorly delivered.
These are the people that statues should be built for, not the Confederate traitors.
Why do so people in the comments think John Buford should be on the list? Nobody born in a border state, especially Kentucky, should be included on a list like this. Besides, Buford moved to Illinois as a child, if he deserves to be on this list then so does Lincoln.
The word is CA-VAL-RY, not "Calvary!" Calvary is where Jesus Christ was crucified! CA-VAL-RY...please get this right!
It’s called propaganda.
No one was fighting for the abolition of slavery. 🙄 Slavery was legal in Union states before, during, and AFTER the war. Lincoln himself said the war was to preserve the Union, even if it meant keeping slavery in place. The Emancipation Proclamation was only going to apply to states that were in rebellion. That way if any Confederate States returned to the Union before the following January, they could keep their slaves. Union states with slaves were not subject to the Proclamation, and parts of the South that were under Union military control were not subject to it either.
Also, Northern citizens and Union Army leaders were racist as hell. The idea of the noble northern abolitionist is similar to all of the supposed legions of French that claimed to have been in the Resistance during WWII. After it was all over there sure were a whole lot more people claiming to have been involved than actually were during the time. 😂
I think there is something wonderfully naive about our thoughts on the Civil War, it seems that everyone in the South wants to deny that their ancestors fought for slavery and everyone in the North wants to claim that their ancestors did fight for abolition. The majority of Americans in the 19th century believed certain races were superior to others, North or South. Today some want to label the CSA as racists and others want to portray them as glorious heroes and slavery was a non-issue. Before we judge our ancestors so harshly, I think we also need to ask ourselves have we eliminated slavery or simply outsourced it. How many of goods today are produced in countries with near appalling labor conditions.
@@TomWilson-sy4jo yes, EVERYONE in the South is a giant monolith with the same opinion across the tens of millions. Obviously slavery was one of several factors, but acting like it was the sole reason for everyone involved, despite contemporary primary sources to the contrary, is either lazy or intentionally deceptive to justify the cost to the Union in blood and treasure. Try telling an Iraq War veteran that they were fighting for oil, or tell a Vietnam vet that his buddies died because they wanted to provide greater profits to the military industrial complex, and you'll quickly get a feel of how terrible of an argument you're making.
Remember that the greatest prize of any war victory is getting to write the history books.
@@AbuWyatt You are of course correct my use of everyone is incorrect. I was simply agreeing with your previous point that their is a popular opinion that people who supported the Union cause where for racial equality and another popular held belief that slavery was a minor role in the South Seceding and both are incorrect. I would argue that in the case of the Civil War we have a rare case where history was written by both the winners and losers which is why we have these wildly differing perspectives above. Individuals had multiple reasons for joining the North and South and I suspect many of their reasons were more practical than slavery or preserving the Union. They likely involved things like honor, preserving the status quo, protecting their families, or they were drafted.
@@TomWilson-sy4jo Spread the word.
This conversation is much too nuanced and intelligent for the UA-cam comment section.
Robert E Lee never ever owned a Slave . Grant did
can you stop lying please.
@@vehx9316 I’m not lying learn facts
@@samright4661 Robert E lee owned slaves you dumdfuck.
Meanwhile Grant freed the only slave he ever own when he was dead broke.
Go and read a book you idiot.
Lee came from a slave owning family, which gave him the socio-economic status to get a place at West Point. He later inherited about 10 slaves when his mother died.
@@aaronfleming9426 Lie more
Well Virginia is a democratic state. Land of laws.
Virginia lead the south kept the south alive for 5 years! Without Virginia the confederacy wouldn’t have lasted that long
@@jasoncampos2933buddy virginia was the only region the confederacy was doing alright in.
@@baneofbanes well exactly, Virginia has always been better compared to other southern states
Shouldn’t have let any confederate soldiers go and gave them all 6 foot graves
Maybe someone should do the same for you
🛵 Keyboard warriors in their underwear sure are brave and bold these days. With burger flipping experience behind them, they issue dictates about how things should have been done long before they were born.🎙️
@@mikethebike2456keyboard? I type on an iPhone. You poor bastard. No literally, you must be poor if you’re using a keyboard.
Some people might like this content but to me it brings nothing but bad feelings about the past.
Why so?
@@RonnieG'Probably because he sympathizes with the southern traitors.
It is history.
I will always consider them traitors to the South. The Southern States succeeded from the Union, at that point they became a separate country. It was the Northern States that invaded the Confederate States of America, which makes the North the aggressor. The winners write the history, but that does not mean the 'good guys' won. The Southern States were justified in their reasons for leaving the oppression of the Northern States. And I know the young, uninformed, will bring up slavery as they have been told by their propaganda education, but that was a small issue in the basis of leaving the United States.
🛵 It truly is propaganda education. Soon it will be called 'The All About Slavery War'. I'm not joking.
The ugly truths are covered up, and the ugly truth is neither North nor South cared enough about the s word to fight over it. It took taxes and tariffs on Southern products to start a war.
The true traitors were the ones that betrayed the country, and tried to secede. That’s not how democracies work. You don’t just revolt every time things don’t go your way. The revolutionaries were the true traitors. They betrayed the UNITED states by dividing it.
Congratulations on writing the stupidest thing I've read all day. The Confederates attacked American arsenals and started the war by bombarding Fort Sumter. The Confederates alone are to bla.e and slavery was a HUGE reason for the Confederates going to war. Way to whitewash history because you're butthurt that the Confederates were on the wrong side of history, started the war, and lost...decisively.
Yeah, so oppressed that the first time a president was elected that wouldn't kiss their asses they had to start a war.
Slavery was the main reason why the Southern states seceded from the Union. It was foremost written in their Secession documents. It was the Southern states who were oppressing African Americans, Northerners and all Abolitionists. Southerners were able to pass the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 which deputized all American citizens to help capture and return escaped slaves to their owners. Those who helped escaped slaves faced a $1000 fine, six months in jail, and possible charges of treason.
After the Civil War, Southerners developed the "Lost Cause" theory to explain their side of the war and the Daughters of the Confederacy spread this toxic theory in school textbooks about the history of the Civil War. This theory promoted the fraudulent argument that Southern states were fighting for the rights of all states to determine if they should be slave or free states. Most of the New England states had abolished slavery before the beginning of the 19th century, so the "Lost Cause" theory was bunk from the beginning. The secession documents by South Carolina and the other seceding states prominently stated that slavery was the main reason why they were leaving the Union.
God Bless those who fought for The Confederate Army
They weren't blessed. They lost.
Why bless the dudes who are in the moral swamp. "I gotta pertect ma property, even if it is other people who I can whip at will!"
@RonnieG so the losing side in wars are automatically wrong? What sort of cave man logic is this ?
@dougerrohmer considering you let your wife get rammed by black men I wouldn’t expect you to understand the want to protect your property
@@thomaswatson1739they lost a war to keep people as property
Cavalryman,
NOT "Calvaryman".
Silly robot voice actor.