Messed Up Things That Happened During The Civil War

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  • @GrungeHQ
    @GrungeHQ  9 місяців тому +35

    Please Note: The First Battle of Bull Run took place on July 21, 1861. We apologize for this discrepancy.

  • @gregux3169
    @gregux3169 7 місяців тому +9

    Nothing builds confidence in the quality of information quite like messing up the very first date

  • @davidmitchell1239
    @davidmitchell1239 7 місяців тому +3

    There is a train museum just north of Atlanta and there you can find the General in all of its glory. What a beautiful engine!

  • @GrungeHQ
    @GrungeHQ  9 місяців тому +9

    What do you think were the most messed up things during the Civil War?

    • @jdburris4455
      @jdburris4455 9 місяців тому +1

      When they took land from whites and gave it to the negro that he didnt pay for. Hell it still goes on today. Try and get a sec 8 house while youre white. Lol

    • @frenzalrhomb6919
      @frenzalrhomb6919 8 місяців тому +2

      That you STILL allowed slavery in those State's, decades after even the English had outlawed it, not only in England itself, but all throughout the British Empire.
      India included!!

    • @asherhouseman6838
      @asherhouseman6838 8 місяців тому +1

      @@frenzalrhomb6919 , The Southern states, with their plantation-owner mentality, allowed it, not the Northern. The North tried to stop it which was the reason for the Civil War in the first place.

    • @stewarta5993
      @stewarta5993 8 місяців тому

      the battle of cold harbor. acoustic shadows and the nurses

    • @jdburris4455
      @jdburris4455 8 місяців тому

      All the dumb monkeys alive then enslaved us all today. Dont belive me? Look at the debt clock mofos. Debt is slavery without chains. And you engage in it with a grin.

  • @johnmassoud930
    @johnmassoud930 9 місяців тому +53

    1st Manassas was 1861. Not 1862.

    • @tasteslikepennies2549
      @tasteslikepennies2549 8 місяців тому

      I bet you're so proud of yourself for remembering that and correcting others? Who is that your little self esteem boost for the day question mark this was my self-esteem boost for the day tool bag

    • @ronan66879
      @ronan66879 8 місяців тому +15

      Nerd

    • @johnmassoud930
      @johnmassoud930 8 місяців тому +23

      @ethanronan7761 calling me a history nerd is the greatest compliment you can pay. Much appreciated thanks!

    • @808ghostMiller
      @808ghostMiller 7 місяців тому +3

      @@ronan66879lol little kid

    • @gmaqwert
      @gmaqwert 7 місяців тому +5

      @@ronan66879being accurate makes someone a nerd?

  • @TERMINATOR101-b8j
    @TERMINATOR101-b8j 8 місяців тому +8

    I visited Gettysburg back in 07. I'll never forget the tour guide telling us about 50k dead or wounded in 3 days and a pile of limbs as high as a second floor window. Least to say, you prayed if you got shot you took it anywhere but the limbs.

    • @andrewvelonis5940
      @andrewvelonis5940 7 місяців тому

      I visited Gettysburg as well and one of our guides mentioned that many bodies ended up in the river, generating disease to the townsfolk.

    • @TERMINATOR101-b8j
      @TERMINATOR101-b8j 7 місяців тому

      @@andrewvelonis5940 yeah, apparently the creek now called the Slaughter Pen ran red with blood.

  • @kermitthehermit9588
    @kermitthehermit9588 7 місяців тому +1

    I have a feeling there’s gonna be a part two to this vid in about a year and a half 🤡🌏

  • @mysteryshrimp
    @mysteryshrimp 7 місяців тому +1

    Every war has had an improvement in accuracy. The Civil War was the first that used trains for logistics. That's what made it the first modern war. That and it was the first to really have field photography. We have so much more information about it than even 1812.

  • @mckinpo
    @mckinpo 9 місяців тому +18

    Corbett’s self-mutilation happened before the war, not during. Also, it was debated back then and still is now whether he’s the one who shot Booth, or if he just took credit

    • @asherhouseman6838
      @asherhouseman6838 8 місяців тому +2

      I heard Corbett died in a large forest fire (the Hinkley Fire) up in Minnesota in 1893.

    • @csnide6702
      @csnide6702 8 місяців тому +1

      but---- he was some kind of "hero" and still couldn't get laid !

  • @outcast668
    @outcast668 9 місяців тому +6

    It is well documented that the massacre at Fort Pillow ended the prisoner exchange between the North and the South. Grant didn't like that no quarter was given to his Soldiers who surrendered; even if they were black. Although, since they simply wanted to end the war anyways; why would you parole soldiers? Either you capture, or kill them; keep them out of the fight. It would be fun to debate whether Sherman's March help put an end to the conflict and whether it was right or not. lol.

    • @elizabethparks9861
      @elizabethparks9861 9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I'm glad that someone said it. Grunge, do better. Most of these stories are at best a little incorrect, at worst wildly inaccurate.

  • @julianaylor4351
    @julianaylor4351 9 місяців тому +8

    Weird glowing caused by other causes, was noted on some World War One battlefields at night.

  • @kylejo96
    @kylejo96 7 місяців тому +1

    Politicians today eat high end icecream while they watch drone strikes on Americans and children...

  • @WaltherPPK909
    @WaltherPPK909 7 місяців тому +3

    Ordering a long rifle to go on a revenge spree is the basis for an incredible Hollywood movie. It's like The Patriot meets Law Abiding Citizen

  • @julianaylor4351
    @julianaylor4351 9 місяців тому +7

    Every civil war has weird stuff that happened, due to no one being ready for the event. Hearing this is really sad. No wonder there was a mental scar on US society for decades after. 😒😞

    • @phillipshosie9233
      @phillipshosie9233 9 місяців тому

      Yeah, sure did. Especially the African Americans. It cut a deep scar that the great, great, great, grandchildren still live with. No, this war has not ended. Only a fool thinks it ended in 1865. Relax, the KKK isn't hateful and racist anymore. It's over.

  • @andrewandersen779
    @andrewandersen779 9 місяців тому +5

    Cool historical video

  • @angellesambre1
    @angellesambre1 7 місяців тому

    You missed a golden opportunity in failing to mention that the real engineer of the General chased them down when he realized his locomotive had been stolen... but he did the entire chase in reverse!

    • @David-zq6ho
      @David-zq6ho 4 місяці тому

      The General was a great Disney movie...🎉

  • @clinthowe7629
    @clinthowe7629 6 місяців тому

    Bull Nelson slapped Davis, that was one thing you left out, that could be enough provocation to lead a man to kill, especially as Davis would have been humiliated if there were witnesses to this incident, which I believe there were.

  • @mrhumble2937
    @mrhumble2937 9 місяців тому +3

    The 10 year old almost made it to the world War.

  • @julianaylor4351
    @julianaylor4351 9 місяців тому +7

    It was common for thirteen or fourteen year olds to be drummer boys, during the early nineteenth century, but ten or eleven is very unusual.

    • @frenzalrhomb6919
      @frenzalrhomb6919 8 місяців тому +1

      Not at all. Particularly in the contemporary British Army, and Navy.
      No, you could honestly "run away to Sea," and many did, including the Man that would one day go on to Survey and map, the then completely unknown (to Europeans) the Eastern Coast of the "Great South Land", and then formally "claim the entire Continent" by formally reading out loud the proclamation of his Majesty King George III, of England,Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Hanover. The "proclamation reading," was made under the (now acknowledged, formally) Legal Fiction of "Terra Nullius" which is the Legal Term (in the language of Latin, to no doubt give the impression that "they're all very clever, a highly Cultured, and Civilised People") whose Sovereign Leader, a German King they now formally, irrevocably now claim 100% of, because under the Law's of their land, this place although obviously being inhabited, had just, only moments before been declared, in the name of His Royal Highness to be "uninhabited" i.e :- that two word phrase, in a dead language, you remember, "Terra Nullius", means (when translated) to "uninhabited land," despite all the abundance of evidence to the contrary, would continue to be for nearly two whole Centuries, the singular Legal precedent that the Whole English Empire kept its toe stuck in the proverbial hole, when it comes to EVER changing and moving along with the rest of the sane World, and just f-kn apologise ya' know? Like the Civilised, Christian Country they have forever told us, that is the indigenous Australians, and just give us a bloody apology.
      Because to be honest with you, even with only 2.5% interest, since the first fleet landed in Sydney Harbor, having decided that the twice as big and twice as deep Botany Bay was "no good for the raising of crop's and livestock, due to a lack of freshwater resources", they had a pow-wow between Capitains of the half dozen Ships that had arrived at Botany Bay, and after having poured over James Cooks maps, made about a decade earlier, but nonetheless, the attention to the detail of this "recently acquired Crown land," would be to go back out of the very safe harbour, where they were currently safely ensconced, and sail only another 10 miles North, to a place called Port Jackson (a.k.a - Sydney Harbor) where, if Cooks maps were found to be once again reliable, their will be more than enough sweet, cool and FRESHWATER, oh the Saint's be praised, fresh-bloody-water!!
      Well alright then, not so much of the Bloody, but Saint's were no doubt praised mightily, for it turned out, this was going to be the day that the would give substance to the lie that was the legal doctrine of "Terra Nullius", for their would have to be some kind of acceptable accommodation made "between ourselves and the "Natives".
      We must be allowed to go about and our lawful business, as must they, but as to how we go about this business.

  • @kolewitak3141
    @kolewitak3141 7 місяців тому

    Jack Henson a real one

  • @Surprise_Inspection
    @Surprise_Inspection 7 місяців тому +1

    John wilks booth was killed to keep him quiet. Just like ep stien.

  • @michaellepp5445
    @michaellepp5445 9 місяців тому

    I found your video to be very interesting

  • @pedenmk
    @pedenmk 9 місяців тому +3

    Scissors ✂? ⚽ ⚽. That's took a pair to do something like that. Better him than me.

  • @stuartgmk
    @stuartgmk 8 місяців тому +1

    The first modern war was the Crimean war.

  • @johngaither9263
    @johngaither9263 9 місяців тому +3

    The NYC draft riots were put down finally by regiments of the Army of the Potomac fresh from the battle of Gettysburg. They had no problems what so ever opening fire on the rioting mob. While the mob was armed with axe handles, sticks, knives and a few pistols they were no match for .58 caliber Springfield rifles with bayonets in the hands of veteran infantrymen.

  • @tmcgill2219
    @tmcgill2219 9 місяців тому +3

    Once again someone who should know better confuses deaths and casualties. Over 600,000 died from combat and disease but there were about three times that number total casualties.

  • @anthonyperno1348
    @anthonyperno1348 9 місяців тому +1

    The draft riots of 1863 were indeed sparked by the KIA lists from Gettysburg and pushed to the extreme by racism, but it should be noted that the participants on both sides, the Irish (former Municipal Police) vs. the Albany controlled Metropolitan Police were virtually the same violent participants who battled for the streets of New York back in 1857 and 1847. I.e. The Gangs of New York.
    New York has been a tinder box waiting to explode ever since, when back in 1857, Albany (and its newly elected Republican majority) moved against (and imprisoned for graft) Tammany Hall's elected Democratic Mayor, and then disbanded the Irish/Tammany Hall created and run Municipal Police force.
    It wasn't all draft or race related. There were old Catholic vs. Nativist (Know-Nothing/Yankee) hostilities brewing.
    It was in the 1857 to 1860 period in New York where the term "Yankee" first became synonymous with "Republican Thug." The term had been embraced by the Protestant Nativists, but the Irish used the term in a derogatory manner in reference to the dark blue tunics of Metropolitan Police. A force which was comprised of troops brought into the City by Albany, from the State Militia, i.e. Nativists
    By 1861 and the election of Lincoln, it was common for any Democrat to use the term Yankee to now denote a "Federal Thug."
    "Thug" --> someone who was trying to impose his 'way of life' on to another. For the Irish, it was a religious issue, for the South, racial.
    It then became purely a North-South thing.

  • @WalterWild-uu1td
    @WalterWild-uu1td 7 місяців тому

    Interesting thing about James J. Andrews who lead the mission which led to the Great Locomotive Chase. He was captured by the Confederates and was hanged with the captured soldiers who received the Medal of Honor. Andrews received no medal...he was not a soldier but a paid civilian. Although generally held to be quite brave, under the rules of war he was a spy and saboteur... and you don't give medals to such men. There is a historical marker near where he was executed which was erected by the State of Georgia.

  • @phillipshosie9233
    @phillipshosie9233 9 місяців тому +3

    "Messed up things?"
    What in hell wasn't mess... First of all, that civil war itself was Mest-up! And everything, I mean Every-little-thing! about that war was Messed Up! Show us, what war, what cruel, brutalizing, torturous, killing, and murdering war has not been "Messed Up?"
    I just reacted to that nonsensical title.

    • @HowellDiesel
      @HowellDiesel 9 місяців тому +2

      Relax Phillip the war ended.

  • @GiulioRicciardi
    @GiulioRicciardi 9 місяців тому +4

    Dude how did you get the first facts wrong… it ruins the credibility of this entire video 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Blalack77
    @Blalack77 9 місяців тому +4

    Damn - the Jack Hinson story. Kind of reminds me of The Patriot where he hunts down the British soldiers who killed his son. I mean, you can't blame him for his "sympathies" being with his home - but he was against secession and lived off the land in the woods, so I doubt he had anything to do with slavery, so he seems to me like just a man from the south who didn't buy into the Confederate cause/ideology so took the middle path and just remained neutral - seemingly quite understandable and rational. Like, "No, I don't believe in this so I'm going to join the other side and come back and destroy my home and kill my family, friends and neighbors"?
    What he did with staying neutral was about the best you could expect from any decent, principled, moral person from any time in history given his exact circumstance. And I say the exact same thing on his spree of hunting Union soldiers. I figure he would have done the exact same thing if it had been Confederate soldiers who murdered his sons. He just seemed like a decent guy who wanted nothing more than to live peacefully in the woods and have nothing to do with war, politics, slavery, etc. Also kind of reminds me of the Clint Eastwood movie, "The Outlaw Josey Wales" (My little brother and I used to love to watch that movie with my dad on snowy days by the fireplace).
    John Clem was an interesting one too.

    • @howmanable
      @howmanable 9 місяців тому

      Jack Hinson supposedly met and dined with Grant when his forces moved through that area early in the war

  • @user-mh1qt4ln5g
    @user-mh1qt4ln5g 7 місяців тому +1

    The most messed up thing was the fact that the North won the war.

    • @DonAbrams-hq7ln
      @DonAbrams-hq7ln 6 місяців тому

      They beat you like we beat the krauts/japs......Attrition and mass production of equipment. You had none,we did ergo...end of story

  • @koffinNAILS
    @koffinNAILS 9 місяців тому +1

    Cool

  • @conqururfear2
    @conqururfear2 7 місяців тому +1

    The actual date is very important. How could someone not agree with that Jesus

  • @thequestionablecraftsman
    @thequestionablecraftsman 7 місяців тому

    Does anyone know what movie these clips are from?

  • @causticwit2286
    @causticwit2286 9 місяців тому +3

    My great great grandfather was named Boston Corbett.

  • @TheBigMclargehuge
    @TheBigMclargehuge 7 місяців тому

    No one ever wants to talk about the civil things that happened during a messed up war.

  • @JohnHausser
    @JohnHausser 9 місяців тому +12

    God bless the men who fought for the Union Army
    🫡 ⚔️ 🇺🇸

  • @jc4evur661
    @jc4evur661 8 місяців тому

    One big cause of dysentery was caused by allowing their horses to graze upstream from their water source... They didn't know better at the time.

    • @DonAbrams-hq7ln
      @DonAbrams-hq7ln 6 місяців тому

      That was a lot to"swallow" latrines
      were wrongfully placed near camp.
      Cavalry and artillery should have
      been positioned much farther away. Horses and men should never have been bivowacked near
      each other....ergo cholera

  • @type026
    @type026 9 місяців тому +1

    Concerning the issue with Jefferson C Davis and William "Bull" Nelson, there were still repercussions from that encounter. Jefferson C Davis was busted down to Colonel and would never be promoted again, and his assignment to Alaska was exile. No one was eager to be assigned there.

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 8 місяців тому

      He was never demoted for killing Nelson in fact he went on to be a Corps commander until the end of the war. In 1866 he reverted to his Regular Army rank of Colonel much like Custer reverting to Lt. Col. Davis wasn't in Alaska but a couple years before taking command and quelling the Modoc rebellion. I served in Iraq with one of Captain Jack's ancestors one of the Indian chiefs killed ending the rebellion.

  • @RCAWHICK
    @RCAWHICK 9 місяців тому +1

    1861.......not 1862

  • @jasonrichards3785
    @jasonrichards3785 7 місяців тому

    I absolutely love this video. Not disputing your info on Johnny Clem but check out Edward Black, Manny Root, and David Bailey Freeman.

  • @neishaamercado5754
    @neishaamercado5754 9 місяців тому +2

    🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @chriswright7259
    @chriswright7259 7 місяців тому

    11 minutes for a video that could have been summed up as: "everything".

  • @thomasskrappy3250
    @thomasskrappy3250 7 місяців тому

    Useless war. John Deere would have made slavery obsolete.

  • @andykaufman7620
    @andykaufman7620 7 місяців тому

    One messed up thing that happened was Abraham Lincoln had some deep fried Southern Fried Chicken and told the black woman who served him 'This is the best fried chicken I ever ate. I do declare it is most delicious and pomposterous that I shall make Southern Fried Chicken a national dish for the Union army and for the White House.

  • @giovannicecchinato8217
    @giovannicecchinato8217 9 місяців тому

    Wait 1867 to find out you have to clean your struments to avoid the spreading infection from soldier to soldier

    • @bilanovitch
      @bilanovitch 9 місяців тому +1

      In the south they were short of thread for sutures so they used horsehair, but they had to boil it first to make it soft and then they noticed far fewer infections when they used the boiled horsehair, and that was a milestone on the way to germ theory.

    • @giovannicecchinato8217
      @giovannicecchinato8217 9 місяців тому

      @@bilanovitch that's surprising

  • @CloroxBleach_x
    @CloroxBleach_x 7 місяців тому

    people dying and other people wanted to eat and watch💀😭

  • @Markjacobs4477
    @Markjacobs4477 7 місяців тому

    These guys didn’t have it as bad as the men in WW1, not even close

  • @matthewmckinney5387
    @matthewmckinney5387 7 місяців тому

    Theres no way with a musket to accurately shoot half a mile.

    • @midwestmatthew9752
      @midwestmatthew9752 7 місяців тому

      I assume you're referring to Jack Hinson. He actually used a Kentucky long rifle, which is not a musket and is accurate enough for a skilled shooter to score hits at the claimed ranges. I believe Hinson also used an early model of a scope, which would have helped too.

    • @matthewmckinney5387
      @matthewmckinney5387 7 місяців тому

      @@midwestmatthew9752 that barrel is rifled, the majority of the muskets in the Civil War were .58 smooth bore. Just saying

    • @mysteryshrimp
      @mysteryshrimp 7 місяців тому

      I'm also fairly sure he wasn't trying to pick out a single target, but aiming for a formation. He didn't care who he hit, as long as it was the right uniform.

    • @midwestmatthew9752
      @midwestmatthew9752 7 місяців тому

      @@matthewmckinney5387 Correct, but Hinson wasn't sniping with a musket. His weapon was actually one of the best possible choices of the time for what he wanted to do.

  • @jacobpettes335
    @jacobpettes335 7 місяців тому

    The weapons the union had available at the outset of the war were not so different from what napoleons men had carried. Many more advanced weapons were being designed at the time, but as of yet there hadnt been any reason for the government to buy a whole bunch of them. Once the war was underway and people realized victory wasnt a foregone conclusion, there was great interest in modernizing the arsenal. Rifled muskets and artillery pieces were produced and fielded in numbers not yet seen.

  • @antman6707
    @antman6707 8 місяців тому

    No mention of Confederate prisoners being forced to sit on a Spanish donkey?

  • @aaroncarter4089
    @aaroncarter4089 9 місяців тому +1

    Yea I doubt it

  • @montyollie
    @montyollie 9 місяців тому +4

    Why is the room the narrator stands in such a mess???

    • @georgeinazuma4377
      @georgeinazuma4377 6 місяців тому +1

      Well, the channel's name IS "Grunge".

    • @montyollie
      @montyollie 6 місяців тому

      LOL Well played!@@georgeinazuma4377

  • @matthewmckinney5387
    @matthewmckinney5387 7 місяців тому +1

    Most of this video is false and propaganda, to the winner go the spoils

  • @CybeleCotter
    @CybeleCotter 7 місяців тому

    The videos are great; but the narrator is soooooo hot! 😍

  • @majcorbin
    @majcorbin 9 місяців тому

    DAVENPORT IOWA DAD JOKE of the day
    [Q] what are,the most mentally deranged, INSECTS,known to mankind?
    [A] why, the LUNAR-TICK's,of course

  • @jc4evur661
    @jc4evur661 8 місяців тому +1

    I wonder why we still feel the need to celebrate/relive the Civil War with reenactments, celebrations of battles, and countless books and UA-cam videos.

    • @TheBerylknight
      @TheBerylknight 8 місяців тому +1

      No one is celebrating or reliving anything in this video. It's just a video about history.

    • @DonAbrams-hq7ln
      @DonAbrams-hq7ln 6 місяців тому

      We should NEVER FORGET the deeds of those who sacrificed for th is country. Forget to do your taxes and see.....what happens
      LATER!!!!!

  • @DoverUSMC
    @DoverUSMC 9 місяців тому +3

    Hearing how often how northerners mutilated and made a show of executing southern prisoners and civilians - that really throws a wrench in the popular belief southerners fought to retain slaves and not due to a war of northern aggression.

    • @kamehouseboxing7142
      @kamehouseboxing7142 9 місяців тому

      No it doesn’t because the south attacked first for no other reason that to keep slaves. Stop the lies and myths you can’t change history because it’s embarrassing to fight for slavery

    • @TheBigMclargehuge
      @TheBigMclargehuge 7 місяців тому

      The idea that the civil war was the good guys up north vs the evil racists down south is a scandalous lie.

  • @RobertEWaters
    @RobertEWaters 8 місяців тому

    DoverUSMC, 1) How? And 2) That the war was caused by slavery is not a "popular belief," but a historical fact. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

    • @timdavis9927
      @timdavis9927 7 місяців тому +1

      It’s just as disingenuous to claim that the war was started solely because of slavery as it is to say it wasn’t started because of slavery