Participles in Latin
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- The participle in Latin is exceptionally important, even more so than it is in English. This video reviews the four participles of a standard verb: the present active, perfect passive, future active, and future passive (the gerundive), along with discussing how deponent verbs form their four participles.
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I just started A-level and never understood participles at GCSE but this video has saved me lol
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My high school latin teacher used to abbreviate the participles. She was so confused as to why we thought the future active participle was so funny.
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That really doesn't seem like a great way to abbreviate, funny or not. Did that cause confusion in any way?
Sorry I don't get it. What?
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I am doing latin as part of my masters, and I have been so confused with the grammar. My teacher has barely addressed future participles so this is so great! This is really helpful. I will be watching more to get an even better understanding.
Making all participles intelligible within 10 minutes... Amazing! Thank you for this extremely well structured and helpful explanation.
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exterminate!
Iam deletum ! Erat delendum in temporis imperii Romanorum !
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I am SO happy to have found your channel! Exams are looming and I didn't seem to be able to wrap my head around the participles, gerunds and gerundives. This the most straightforward way I've ever seen it explained and it helps so much, thank you! I'm definitely going to check out the rest of your videos! Much love from Germany
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Salvete, cuncti vire! Thanks for clearing all this up; the explanations were very clear and in-depth. Great video!
Just a couple of fun facts: The present participle survived into the Romance languages as a pure adjective; that is, it lost its verbal characteristic of being able to govern a noun. What replaced it in the Romance languages was an amalgamation of the gerundive and the gerund used in the ablative as an ablative of manner, and this form is what is used to form the progressive tenses in those Romance languages that have true progressive tenses (Spanish, Italian, and Portuguese).
Also, the perfect passive participle gradually became active in meaning once the compound perfect tenses began developing in the Romance languages, especially when it came to transitive verbs.
My sister name is a reminant of the Gerundive that survived but just as a name, "Amanda"
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Salve! Thank you so much for the videos! Just a question: in previous parts of the video, you said that the present system using the 2nd participle part is used for present tense/imperfect/ future tense, then why is the future active participle using the 4th principle part? is it one of the irregular uses?
no reason, they just ran out of ending that would make sense.
Edit: Hope this helps 6 years later...
in the theory, there are active past participles. sinc the deponent verbs has active meaning, their past passive participle works as active participle, so that Locutus, secutus, Conatus etc, are active past participles ! also there is classe of adjectives (formed by the -bilis suffix) which has quality of passive present participle, so, Amabilis, visibilis has can have this function (even in the russian language, when you want to say some like Amabilis, you use the passive present participle!)
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forgive me for some mistakes
Gratias tibi agimus, magister!
For the example with "miles imperatori laudandus est", since there is an ablative of agent, should you put "ab" before "imperatori"? Also, you said dative there...
Wait, so Amanda means "She who will be loved"?
That's who Maroon 5 was singing about...
Great videos.
Present is a PAP... I've been studying Latin for twelve years and never knew that. You just blew my mind.
And future oh my gosh
AND GERUNDIVE I CANT ITS TOO EARLY FOR THIS
Love your videos, thank you for all of your hard work. I wanted to ask if the present active participle ablative Ending is in fact “e” as you have at 2:32. Isn’t it “ ī “ ? Also, you have “landāns” but isn’t it “landans” ?
In my understanding, there is a high degree of similarity in the case endings of present active participles, 3rd declension i-stem nouns, and 3rd declension one-ending adjectives. What are your thoughts on this?
Technically, the vowel at the end of the present is long, even if some texts don't show it (laudāns, monēns). And the participle ablative singular ending is an -e always, unlike many different third declension adjectives (which end in an -ī).
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whats the stem of Nego, Negare?
Why does it seem that the Romance Languages developed the gerundive from the Passive Future and not the Active Present?
They actually developed it from both the gerund and the gerundive as an original ablative of manner. The present participle survived into the Romance languages, but only as an adjective. It no longer has the ability to govern an object.Moreover, the Romance languages do not use the gerund as we use it in English or as it was used in Latin. They use the infinitive where English and Latin would use the gerund/gerundive.
Wow, thanks! I didn't really understand this when my teacher was teaching this, but now I do!
That's great!
my barely 16 year old brain can’t comprehend, help. is there a perfect active participle or no?
No. There is no such thing as a Perfect Active Participle in Latin. Deponent verbs are translated as active because of the nature of deponent verbs in general, which is to be passive in form but active in meaning.
Shouldn't that be: miles imperatore laudandus est ?
Isn't imperatori dative...?
The gerundive takes a dative of agent. Only very rarely is the ablative of agent used, and then just when the dative would be confusing (e.g., dōnum mihi ā puellā dandum est, a gift must be given to me by the girl, the ablative is necessary because dandum takes a dative of indirect object, mihi).
Many thanks for taking the time to reply. I've neglected my Latin but now that you state the rule it comes back... regards
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So you don’t say anything about passive active? The one thing I need help with?
What about semi deponent verbs?
It’s what you’d expect. The perfect participle has an active meaning.
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When the verb is deponent, the perfect participle is active? Why???
Standard rule of deponents: look passive (locutus looks no different from a perfect passive participle), but with active meanings.
+latintutorial I though there was no perfect passive participle. Are the deponents the only exception?
There is no perfect ACTIVE participle. Deponents are the only exception, because by definition, they are passive in appearance but active in meaning.
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is conatus sum then irrelevant? since its translated the same as conatus - and doesn't have a ppp because it is deponent. Is the sum perhaps just put there to show that it is deponent? . Your videos are super concise and easy to follow. they have helped me a lot in just one night, thank you!
Great video! I’m a little confused on the differences between the two forms of the present participles though, how would “laudans” and “laudantis” vary?
Wait nevermind, I think that perhaps the -t(suffix) is only added for anything but nominative singular correct?
@@tsani-bn2bk Pretty much, I think. Singular nominative - ns gets - nt- in its grammatical stem, being one of what I sometimes call something like "3rd declension micro-declensions". They can, in my view, be called micro-declensions, because they're within declensions and have predictable groupings like declensions. Perhaps the main examples are (singular nominative -> grammatical stem):
- ns - > - nt- (such as in _mens_ mind)
- rs - > - rt- (such as in _pars_ part)
- ō - > - ōn- or - in- (such as in _religiō_ religion or _virgō_ virgin)
- ōs - > - ōr- (such as in _ōs_ mouth)
- ūs - > - ūr- (such as in _jūs_ right/law)
- ās - > - āt- (such as in _potestās_ power)
- īs - > - īt- (such as in _Quirīs_ Roman citizen (civil law and civil rights))
- or - > - ōr- (such as in _amor_ love)
-is is the singular genitive suffix for 3rd declension.
What about fifth conjugation verbs?
Fifth conjugation? There may be 5 declensions, but there are only 4 conjugations, going by thematic vowel in present active infinitive / 2nd principle part. That's how it's usually classified, although a number of Roman authors, mostly pre-Late Latin period, sometimes said that they considered that there are just 3! (This is *my* current understanding of it.) However, the case could possibly be made for interpreting that there are 5 conjugations based on the fact that you have a significant number of 3rd conjugation verbs with 4th conjugation-style 1st principle parts - -iō instead of -ō - among perhaps some other similarities to 4th conjugation over 3rd conjugation.
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So can we use the active participles instead of active tenses for the present, perfect and future?
The present active is never used in place of a verb, so "Marcus sedens est" is entirely WRONG. But the perfect active participle with est is in fact the perfect tense for deponent verbs: "Marcus locutus est" is "Marcus has spoken". And the future active participle with est is commonly used for the future tense: "Marcus esurus est" is "Marcus is going to eat". So kind of, but be wary of the present active participle.
@@latintutorial Putting it another way, the progressive tenses ("Marcus is sitting." "Marcus was reading." "Marcus will be sleeping when you arrive at his house.") do not exist in Latin. Those are constructions that came about centuries later as Vulgar Latin evolved into the various Romance languages (except for French and Romanian, which do not have progressive tenses in the same sense that English, Spanish, Italian, and Portuguese do).
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The video was so much fast, must be more slower quaeso, gratias tibi ago, salvete - :))
In theory, it's meant to be a review video. For slower (gratias!) videos, check out the individual participle videos:
Present Participles: ua-cam.com/video/a5rfbu-8OFc/v-deo.html
Perfect Participles: ua-cam.com/video/gbtX1TRAvMM/v-deo.html
Future Participles: ua-cam.com/video/rgRkmrGPFmo/v-deo.html
Gerundives: ua-cam.com/video/d7wSUmW9VjA/v-deo.html
You can slow the video down using the UA-cam video playback speed settings, may help you understand what hes saying better.
7:09: monitus, moniturus with a short i.
De rebus miseris superbituri erimus.
English speakers: how are you able to use less words but be so descriptive?
Romans: lol, just change your verbs to adjectives when you need to bruv.
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Your videos are incredibly good and it's clear how much effort you put into them. There is, however, too much information in this video. It should be broken up into 2 videos, one for active and one for passive. More background information needs to be given and the conjugations need to be fleshed out more. I note that many of the comments praising this video say it was a great REVIEW of material that had already been taught elsewhere. I'm sure it is. As an initial introduction to the material, it is not as clear as it could be.
Ah, so it would be good to let you know that I cover each of these participles individually in other videos. The present participle is at ua-cam.com/video/a5rfbu-8OFc/v-deo.html, the perfect participle is at ua-cam.com/video/gbtX1TRAvMM/v-deo.html, the future active at ua-cam.com/video/rgRkmrGPFmo/v-deo.html, and the future passive (gerundive) is at ua-cam.com/video/d7wSUmW9VjA/v-deo.html.
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“Participles are adjectives.”
“Both are adjectives, because both describe the noun Dīdō, but only moritūra is a participle.”
But you said earlier that participles are adjectives! Whaah?! Which is it? Are they or aren’t they adjectives??
Not contradictory at all! Think of participles as a subset of adjectives. All participles are adjectives, but not all adjectives are participles.
Perfectum itself is also a participle perfect passive from perficio meaning to finish, to accomplish from perfectus, a, um. so perfectum is masculine singular neutr form of participium perfectum passivum.
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I have videos that address each participle, too, if you need more detail and explanation.
present active: ua-cam.com/video/a5rfbu-8OFc/v-deo.html
perfect passive: ua-cam.com/video/gbtX1TRAvMM/v-deo.html
future active: ua-cam.com/video/rgRkmrGPFmo/v-deo.html
future passive: ua-cam.com/video/d7wSUmW9VjA/v-deo.html
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The funny thing is that I learn in Hungaryan, witch sucks because this is so much easier to understand then my own motherlanguage!
7:23 facio sounds like... ok that's not the point.
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Why is Latin such an incredibly complicated langauge ? Perhaps this is why it became a dead language and people dropped it as common speaking language ?
Oh, it's actually not incredibly complicated. The presentation of it may make it seem complicated, but little Roman (and non-Roman) children were speaking Latin pretty fluently when they were just 6 or 7 years old. Modern, formal English is pretty complicated - I'd argue more complicated than Latin, actually, because of its preference for irregular forms - but we won't see it die out any time soon. Latin evolved, just like all languages do, into French, Spanish, Italian, etc.
If it's the concept of cases that makes you think Latin is complicated, many modern languages (German, Russian) have cases and are doing just fine. If it's tenses, English tenses are actually more complicated. If it's word order, more languages have the same word order as Latin (Subject-Object-Verb) than the word order of English (Subject-Verb-Object).
latintutorial it is a complicated language. having to learn multiple declensions, cases, and all other sorts of things we don't have in English too stressful! we have only one word for one meaning. if we as CIVIL human being that know a non complicated language want to say we praise we shouldn't have to say laudamus! its too much to take in and our school society is too stupid to realize that we don't have to learn only Latin, French, or Spanish (in most states these are the only option you can choose from). All languages help you better understand English and make you a better English speaker. However when you have multiple ways to say one word then everything gets confusing and overwhelming.
Do you know why it became a dead language?
It didn't die, it just changed as all languages do into its modern forms of Spanish, Italian, French, Romanian, etc.
+ROBERT BRYSON However that's the Imperfect tense (what you were showing in the Latin), so in the English it would be
We sing we were singing, / we give we were giving/ we drink, we were drinking/, etc. so also regular. Although I agree that in some ways Latin is more regular than English in this case they're both about the same. If we used the perfect tense we would get
canimus, cecinimus/ damus, dēdimus/bibimus, bibimus,/ mittimus mīsimus, really just as irregular as English.
(Not that I have anything against Latin, I love Latin)
how can you possibly say present, perfect and future for participles??? it's so horribly false! it's perfect, imperfect and instant!!! (perfectum, imperfectum, instans) You are confusing people!!!! participles don't have tenses, they have time relations!!! also, why don't you use Latin grammatical expressions, Latin and English grammar are different in so many ways, why don't you say participium, perfectum etc....??
Presumably because every Latin textbook for students uses these same terms. I came here because I wanted to understand what a "future passive participle" meant in practice. If this video had only used Latin terms, which aren't found in student textbooks, I'd never have found this video.
listen, I'm a Latin student in Hungary and I have to say, the Hungarian system is so much mire logical...
Chris Mitchell
We only use the Latin names:
Nominativus, genitivus, dativus, accusativus, ablativus, praesens, (im)perfectum, plusquamperfectum, coniunctivus, participium et cetera.
Don’t butcher the language. Learn how it was back then, not the polluted English variants.
The Latin names have more meaning as well, which I find very helpful.
Spelling Mitsake They may well be more logical, but I needed to understand what a future passive participle was, and that search time found this very useful video. If I'd searched for it in Latin, I wouldn't have found it. You're clearly a Latin scholar, and so don't really have any need for a beginner's video like this, but for a learner like me it's very useful. If I knew what that Latin term for "future passive participle" was, I probably wouldn't need this video either. But I don't, and I did!