I still think Valk Awk deserves to get an honorable mention here (at least for early til midgame). Just press RMB + Space and hold Space until you're finished grinding. I call her the 1 Aph (Action per hour) class lol.
Zerker can do the same with shift+F. Also there is some other classes being able to utilise some sort of a special "retardly easy" gameplay in some cases. But same as Valk Awk this may change drastically over the time. Like an Archer was an s+q skill only for a few months before PA added a 7 sec cooldown on one of the best skills. So imagine Archer could spam that skill for his whole i dont know 3-4 years life but not really effective. Then they buffed the skill and after a few months just killed the whole feeling of a class with the nerf
I'd like to throw out that Sage Succession is very effective while having very, very reasonable APM. His area attacks are MASSIVE, he has excellent mobility that gets you from pack-to-pack quickly, and he is very satisfying to play. Also, Woosa Succession is pretty low APM, which is another reason that Awakening is so unpopular. Her buff rotation is literally "Hold F" and her two attack rotations are "Shift+LMB into S+LMB" and "W+E into S+E". Combine that with two REALLY long-cast, high-damage, SA-protected abilities (Shift+RMB and Shift+Q) and you have a pretty chill grind overall. Honestly, her APM in Succession is almost identical to her APM in Awakening because Succession just holds down the same button to launch multiple skills that are linked together.
As a Lahn Succ main, this is quite accurate. The PVE combo I follow uses only like 5 to 6 skills. However, AOE and range wise, not that good, but still fair.
guardian actually doesn't lack on end game content and is 1 of the best. awakening falls off but it has different problems, succession is top tier in tower and end game. the inf combo wrecks higher end spots. i don't know much about the end game team grinding spots though, haven't done research. pack to pack it depends on how far away they are. somewhere like blood wolves alot of the time you can spam w+Q, W+RMB, a or d +rmb shift+W space. those in rotation works well and 1 shots all, with a pretty wide aoe. you can use somethng like shift+lmb if all 3 of those are on cd but its rare. if your comparing it to something like musa or zerk yea she mid. i think the farther the pack to pack is the worst she is. somewhere like gahaz and roranos she very mid the bed.
Would you mind telling me what her Inf combo is? I’ve been using awakening for a while just cause lots of those skills like Shift-F feel good to wipe out wide aoe packs, and I haven’t touched succession for a long time
Sage Succession for me is the lowest APM with high AoE damage and accuracy benefits. For new tower spots, just needs good resistances (with GS 700 obviously) and life absortion items and goes like charm.
I think you horribly rated Awake Witch. Especially after buffs she’s in an amazing spot. One of the best new player friendly classes, especially if you don’t tend to care about PvP. Mostly all frontal guards to stay safe and healthy, 2 heals, red orb to tuant the monsters, a low stam cost/spammable pve Iframe makes her excellent in boss rush and areas you aren’t completely comfortable in. No real combo as her moves are all high damage and low cooldown, more of a priority system, but when in doubt just use fissure and weave in another skill after repeat.
I didn't get to try out much of each character due to slots so my max of personal knowledge was trial. The rest was based of other content creators and guide's opinions.
Witch is brutal and you are nearly invincible with her she just lacks mobility so i tagged my Musa with her for low GS grindzones just for harvesting or if i need to smack someone who has too much ego and wont leave me alone lol
@@raikonnect Maybe mention those content creator who ever contributed for that particular class, as these videos can be misleading for new players when you have no real experience with the particular class.
She is not low APM, because u have spam so many skill cancels and even movement skill is also chained with skill cancels. Woosa is leaned more towards high APM than medium.
The other peoples opinion put her into the medium APM. Although after posting the video I've received a lot of feedback on valk so i pinned the valk awak comment as a bandaid solution. Incase i make another one of these i'll add her!
Awakening Musa should be here . Its APM feels like the Striker but instead of holdin F 80% of the time you hold LMB 60% of the time or F if not that maybe a random W/S-E . Awa Musa is chill easy only need 2 braincell but still very flashy fast and brutal .
@@IkrazNL well yeah but you can go ham on most classes anyways . Its just doesnt requer you to go absolute madman like with a succsession Striker or any Mystic . Even if Musa not that low APM and you bottonsmashing everything its still can be chill + after the reworks and buffs you dont rly have to switch between Pre-awa/AWA as you can keep up all your buffs even in perma Awakened . (note i am not a hardcore musa main just one of my more liked one the top 3)
You won't be low APM at orc's or anything above those grind spots, Baby spots sure its 1-2 skills for musa. Me being a Musa for 6 years now. I hate grinding with it at Higher spots (Awakening)@@kaszas272HU
I’m sorry but you horribly rated awk witch 💀 she is one of the best grinders in the game (ofc there are spots where she wouldn’t do too good at) she is very well protected, high dmg, very nice healing kit, and party buffs which makes her a good option for party grind if you don’t have a shai, and she is very beginner friendly, if I would to rate her 1/5 she would be a 4.5 overall for pve and 5/5 for some spots. And for pvp I would give her a 2.5/5 for overall pvp
@@ItsSwitchXD In the tierlist i linked in the description made by choice. She is put at average at large aoe spots. When I think average I think 3 stars
@@raikonnect awk witch is definitely not “Average” (maybe at early game yea bc she doesn’t have much movement) but and mid game and end game she is an above average grinder. He’s a link to quendya pve tierlist video ua-cam.com/video/TV1VgT0R4PI/v-deo.html where loonystorm 1 of the (if not the) best pve witches in the game even stated that witch is 9/10 In endgame pve and 8.5/10 for mid game which equals to around 4.5/5 for pve overall
@@Magickss Then play corsair m8. One of my tips for new players is to play what they want and not for tiers. Cause if you get bored of playing that tier char and you quit guess what. U not playing anymore. But if you enjoy playing the character even if it isn't the top of tier list (Which is mostly based off min maxed stuff. Which most players don't do). You will keep playing the game and enjoying it
For tower style farming she's for sure med-APM. But for pack-to-pack she's for sure low APM when you can go lawnmower style with W+Spacebar+LMB hold combo. It's similar to the Valk Awk comment left by someone else; you could argue it's 1 APH (1 action per hour) cause of the hold combo hahah
@@thebomber7641 Have you tried out that lawnmower combo? Because I have and I'm able to go perma WRRRRRRR and chop down everything in my path if I want to.
If you still want to play her feel free to do so. Don't avoid classes just because they aren't considered amazing on the tier. As long as you like the class and are having fun with it that's what matters
I've seen some peeps say it's on the lower side. But not as low as the ones shown here. I might do a video side on the medium APM classes to include some more classes
Ah. I see. Sadly not a personal Trainer. Just a way to get Raikon as a name. And before I used to do content in Portuguese. That is what PT means@@t-bagindahaus4638
I've responded to someone that asked me about this. But the reason I didn't include Musa here is not only on my review but also other players Musa is medium APM and not low when compared to the classes shown here
@@raikonnect sucession musa is as low apm as u can get as well. in low end pack to pack where u 1 shot pack, dashing around dropin cyclen andmove on is as low apm as u can get.
She is still strong all the way till end game i'd say even with the nerfs. Although I have limited info to base off. You can check the tierlist that was made by Choice in my description
It’s crazy to me ppl see nerf and think “bad” she’s literally #1 still pulling some of the highest numbers at all grind spots. There r ppl cheesing things like orcs and under water in seasonal gear pulling 1bil+/hr, even pvp is still fine. Sluzzy literally has a vid of him getting 300+ kills in siege recently.
@@Matshiro She is definitely not S rank. She is S rank in midgame, A in early game, B+ in end game. She ranks 29th class out of all classes in hexe post nerf, with the most hours recorded just below Woosa. Just to give you a point of comparison, Woosa pulls 18520 trash/hr median in hexe, Maegu pulls 16042 trash/hr median. The people complaining about the class being OP do not even play the class and do not know how the nerfs affected her.
@@ImBeeatsOfficial I am sorry but this is not true at all. With the exception of Orcs and Sycraia, she performs well about average to under-average. Even in Orcs and Sycraia she is not the top class, Warrior succ, Guardian succ and Nova awak being higher in the list. PvP is not fine as well, the accuracy and evasion shred hit her hard, especially after the protection and damage nerfs. You do not deal damage unless you over-gear the opponent. Only small set of favorable matchups exist in 1v1. Small scale performance is kind of alright if you do not get singled out. Large scale is too chaotic to perform unless uber geared.
@@gundarvarr1024 Well yeah. It's not that i don't wanna do it now. It's more of a. I physically can't purchase it. And up until recent most of my purchases were for my streams. So like twitch emotes and stuff
I still think Valk Awk deserves to get an honorable mention here (at least for early til midgame). Just press RMB + Space and hold Space until you're finished grinding. I call her the 1 Aph (Action per hour) class lol.
Honestly yes! I love my awa valk early game but come high mid to high end and sheesh your fingers start to hurt after a long grind session
Zerker can do the same with shift+F. Also there is some other classes being able to utilise some sort of a special "retardly easy" gameplay in some cases. But same as Valk Awk this may change drastically over the time. Like an Archer was an s+q skill only for a few months before PA added a 7 sec cooldown on one of the best skills. So imagine Archer could spam that skill for his whole i dont know 3-4 years life but not really effective. Then they buffed the skill and after a few months just killed the whole feeling of a class with the nerf
Not anymore, its deleted.
I main Awak Valk, her clear time and movement ability in Hastidilum is top notch but her APM is betweem mid to million tier.
2:18 succession guardian does not start to fall behind in end game spots. She’s in the top grouping of grinders
Yeah succ guardian is gas at end game spots.
I'd like to throw out that Sage Succession is very effective while having very, very reasonable APM. His area attacks are MASSIVE, he has excellent mobility that gets you from pack-to-pack quickly, and he is very satisfying to play.
Also, Woosa Succession is pretty low APM, which is another reason that Awakening is so unpopular. Her buff rotation is literally "Hold F" and her two attack rotations are "Shift+LMB into S+LMB" and "W+E into S+E". Combine that with two REALLY long-cast, high-damage, SA-protected abilities (Shift+RMB and Shift+Q) and you have a pretty chill grind overall. Honestly, her APM in Succession is almost identical to her APM in Awakening because Succession just holds down the same button to launch multiple skills that are linked together.
Guardian succ is literally the highest pack to pack avg at orcs rn according to garmoth.
Nice video, straight to the point!
As a Lahn Succ main, this is quite accurate. The PVE combo I follow uses only like 5 to 6 skills. However, AOE and range wise, not that good, but still fair.
I've been trying to find a good combo, not sure what makes lahn succ do well in pve. Any advice?
@@tickletheFATk1d just lrearn to press F once into S + F into LMB RMB + RMB Repeat.
@@accelerator4658 as a console player .. this hurts my brain, thank you
@@tickletheFATk1d Self Buff, O into ⬇️+O into R2 into R2+R1 and repeat.
Idk about Xbox tho
absolutely agree to you with succ lhan,, less "strains to hands"
guardian actually doesn't lack on end game content and is 1 of the best. awakening falls off but it has different problems, succession is top tier in tower and end game. the inf combo wrecks higher end spots. i don't know much about the end game team grinding spots though, haven't done research. pack to pack it depends on how far away they are. somewhere like blood wolves alot of the time you can spam w+Q, W+RMB, a or d +rmb shift+W space. those in rotation works well and 1 shots all, with a pretty wide aoe. you can use somethng like shift+lmb if all 3 of those are on cd but its rare. if your comparing it to something like musa or zerk yea she mid. i think the farther the pack to pack is the worst she is. somewhere like gahaz and roranos she very mid the bed.
i agree
mate, what combo do you use for guardian succession at high end spots?
Would you mind telling me what her Inf combo is? I’ve been using awakening for a while just cause lots of those skills like Shift-F feel good to wipe out wide aoe packs, and I haven’t touched succession for a long time
@@shahzebkhan4397 ua-cam.com/video/KAv7tQ2Bul8/v-deo.html
@@nikkosmit6985 ua-cam.com/video/KAv7tQ2Bul8/v-deo.html
Sage Succession for me is the lowest APM with high AoE damage and accuracy benefits. For new tower spots, just needs good resistances (with GS 700 obviously) and life absortion items and goes like charm.
This was a great vid, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think you horribly rated Awake Witch. Especially after buffs she’s in an amazing spot. One of the best new player friendly classes, especially if you don’t tend to care about PvP. Mostly all frontal guards to stay safe and healthy, 2 heals, red orb to tuant the monsters, a low stam cost/spammable pve Iframe makes her excellent in boss rush and areas you aren’t completely comfortable in. No real combo as her moves are all high damage and low cooldown, more of a priority system, but when in doubt just use fissure and weave in another skill after repeat.
I didn't get to try out much of each character due to slots so my max of personal knowledge was trial. The rest was based of other content creators and guide's opinions.
witch awk is monster when you are on 700gs above grinding at high end spot.
@@Haulakulara What I did hear was something about red orb. But I don't know much like I said
Witch is brutal and you are nearly invincible with her she just lacks mobility so i tagged my Musa with her for low GS grindzones just for harvesting or if i need to smack someone who has too much ego and wont leave me alone lol
@@raikonnect Maybe mention those content creator who ever contributed for that particular class, as these videos can be misleading for new players when you have no real experience with the particular class.
Thanx for the vid. Very good.
whos killer, Berseker Succ or Striker Awk? for pve and pvp
For what I've read people really like berserker succ a lot for pvp and pve for his simple rotations and good buffs
Isn't Woosa succession considered as a low APM high performance grind class? Why is she missing in the list?
For what I asked around and saw she was more towards the medium side of APM than low. She might not be the highest but i'd say she isn't the lowest
She is not low APM, because u have spam so many skill cancels and even movement skill is also chained with skill cancels. Woosa is leaned more towards high APM than medium.
Berserker shift space > lmb rmb and repeat
With the ocasional shift+q with bsr for the buffs
@@raikonnect truly no brain just farm class. easiest to use and for pvp i believe there's like 1 or 2 more skills to use
you still need to remain buffed at all time lol
theres way more than that
Can you please write down the names of the skills you mentioned?(console player here)
@@Msalal303 Shift space would be lava piercer while lmb + RMB would be raging thunder
what no valk train???
The other peoples opinion put her into the medium APM. Although after posting the video I've received a lot of feedback on valk so i pinned the valk awak comment as a bandaid solution. Incase i make another one of these i'll add her!
Awakening Musa should be here . Its APM feels like the Striker but instead of holdin F 80% of the time you hold LMB 60% of the time or F if not that maybe a random W/S-E .
Awa Musa is chill easy only need 2 braincell but still very flashy fast and brutal .
lol Awa Musa low APM? HAHAHHAHA
You go grind High End spot with Awa Musa you keep spamming keys myfriend.
@@IkrazNL well yeah but you can go ham on most classes anyways . Its just doesnt requer you to go absolute madman like with a succsession Striker or any Mystic . Even if Musa not that low APM and you bottonsmashing everything its still can be chill + after the reworks and buffs you dont rly have to switch between Pre-awa/AWA as you can keep up all your buffs even in perma Awakened . (note i am not a hardcore musa main just one of my more liked one the top 3)
You won't be low APM at orc's or anything above those grind spots, Baby spots sure its 1-2 skills for musa. Me being a Musa for 6 years now. I hate grinding with it at Higher spots (Awakening)@@kaszas272HU
I’m sorry but you horribly rated awk witch 💀 she is one of the best grinders in the game (ofc there are spots where she wouldn’t do too good at) she is very well protected, high dmg, very nice healing kit, and party buffs which makes her a good option for party grind if you don’t have a shai, and she is very beginner friendly, if I would to rate her 1/5 she would be a 4.5 overall for pve and 5/5 for some spots. And for pvp I would give her a 2.5/5 for overall pvp
It's very much possible that I did. Like I said it was based of other peoples opinion and other tierlists
@@raikonnect most pve tierlist I’ve seen she is on the S tier slot and as a witch main myself she is S tier meaning she is 4-5 stars not 3 lol
@@ItsSwitchXD In the tierlist i linked in the description made by choice. She is put at average at large aoe spots. When I think average I think 3 stars
@@raikonnect awk witch is definitely not “Average” (maybe at early game yea bc she doesn’t have much movement) but and mid game and end game she is an above average grinder. He’s a link to quendya pve tierlist video ua-cam.com/video/TV1VgT0R4PI/v-deo.html where loonystorm 1 of the (if not the) best pve witches in the game even stated that witch is 9/10 In endgame pve and 8.5/10 for mid game which equals to around 4.5/5 for pve overall
Personally I find Maegu the easiest, love the range and movability.
honestly cant choose between meagu or corsair
They are both fun. (Personally i play corsair awak cause i like the goofy otters). You can always play both thanks to the Tag system
@@raikonnect its just that everywhere i look corsair is way down then maegu but tbink corsair has more fun skills
@@Magickss Then play corsair m8. One of my tips for new players is to play what they want and not for tiers. Cause if you get bored of playing that tier char and you quit guess what. U not playing anymore. But if you enjoy playing the character even if it isn't the top of tier list (Which is mostly based off min maxed stuff. Which most players don't do). You will keep playing the game and enjoying it
@@raikonnectdoes the tag system will make your 2nd char become the same lv as your main 1 or you need to lv it up individually?
No succ maehwa?! At low end spots you can literally hold W+LMB+Spacebar and lawnmover everything without thought!
For what I read and what people said she was medium APM and not low when compared to the ones shown here
For tower style farming she's for sure med-APM. But for pack-to-pack she's for sure low APM when you can go lawnmower style with W+Spacebar+LMB hold combo. It's similar to the Valk Awk comment left by someone else; you could argue it's 1 APH (1 action per hour) cause of the hold combo hahah
@@QPoily I don't doubt it!
Succ maehwa cant sustain that type of gameplay because of her large stamina consumption
@@thebomber7641 Have you tried out that lawnmower combo? Because I have and I'm able to go perma WRRRRRRR and chop down everything in my path if I want to.
F for Nova Succ, even after her PVE buffs she still bad? I was planning to try her in the next season
If you still want to play her feel free to do so. Don't avoid classes just because they aren't considered amazing on the tier.
As long as you like the class and are having fun with it that's what matters
@@raikonnect You more often than not do better numbers while having a good time, than you do while playing meta and being miserable
@@lxzchase 100%
Berserker's are way too powerful and are in a desperate need of a major Nerf.
Is succession sage not low apm?
I've seen some peeps say it's on the lower side. But not as low as the ones shown here.
I might do a video side on the medium APM classes to include some more classes
@@raikonnect I guess it's because I haven't played much of the other classes but it feels less apm than striker at least to me
@@shy_guy_sean9437 It might be! After all this is just based off what I could test + opinions of other players.
What about MUSA?! I just started the game on PC with Musa
Musa for what i found out is medium to high depending if you awakening or succession. ircc awakening is lower apm than succession
What's AMP mean?
APM means Actions Per Minute. Essentially how many things you do in each minute
@@raikonnect thank u. Very educational. 😁
are you a personal trainer?
In what sense?
@@raikonnect i thought the PT in your name stood for personal trainer
Ah. I see. Sadly not a personal Trainer. Just a way to get Raikon as a name. And before I used to do content in Portuguese. That is what PT means@@t-bagindahaus4638
where is my musa
I've responded to someone that asked me about this. But the reason I didn't include Musa here is not only on my review but also other players Musa is medium APM and not low when compared to the classes shown here
Shai it is
Awa ranger, hold W + F and done..
Wheres Awakening Musa?
when compared to the classes shown here I'd say musa is higher apm. While overall he might be towards the medium APM status
low damage in mid tier
@@raikonnect sucession musa is as low apm as u can get as well. in low end pack to pack where u 1 shot pack, dashing around dropin cyclen andmove on is as low apm as u can get.
Suc woosa is better than awak woos
Yep and it only requires 4 skills and doesn't break your fingers. Good for end game spots. Clunky before 240 ap spots and pack to pack is meh
Step1. Learn to read
Step2. Read the title
What apm mean???
I say what it means at 0:35 . It means Actions Per Minute
Maegu one of the best? Maybe before but I don’t think she’s the best anymore all the nerfs hit her hard
She is still strong all the way till end game i'd say even with the nerfs. Although I have limited info to base off. You can check the tierlist that was made by Choice in my description
It’s crazy to me ppl see nerf and think “bad” she’s literally #1 still pulling some of the highest numbers at all grind spots. There r ppl cheesing things like orcs and under water in seasonal gear pulling 1bil+/hr, even pvp is still fine. Sluzzy literally has a vid of him getting 300+ kills in siege recently.
She is still S rank, nerfs just made her op, not super op like she was before
@@Matshiro She is definitely not S rank. She is S rank in midgame, A in early game, B+ in end game. She ranks 29th class out of all classes in hexe post nerf, with the most hours recorded just below Woosa. Just to give you a point of comparison, Woosa pulls 18520 trash/hr median in hexe, Maegu pulls 16042 trash/hr median. The people complaining about the class being OP do not even play the class and do not know how the nerfs affected her.
@@ImBeeatsOfficial I am sorry but this is not true at all. With the exception of Orcs and Sycraia, she performs well about average to under-average. Even in Orcs and Sycraia she is not the top class, Warrior succ, Guardian succ and Nova awak being higher in the list. PvP is not fine as well, the accuracy and evasion shred hit her hard, especially after the protection and damage nerfs. You do not deal damage unless you over-gear the opponent. Only small set of favorable matchups exist in 1v1. Small scale performance is kind of alright if you do not get singled out. Large scale is too chaotic to perform unless uber geared.
If you're new to the game don't make a guide misleading other new players is all I will say about this
can you pls stop reding chat gpt´s answers?
This dud never played the video game xD
What even is this?
get better audio set up
Kinda broke atm to get a better one. What i'm doing is messing around with my settings to see if i can make it better for y'all
@@raikonnect well its called investment, get better set guaranteed bigger viewers and sub
@@gundarvarr1024 Well yeah. It's not that i don't wanna do it now. It's more of a. I physically can't purchase it. And up until recent most of my purchases were for my streams. So like twitch emotes and stuff
no valk? damn
this video guide is full of very flawed opinions but ok
what about now?
Ye nowadays I have a no clue. It's definitely not the best guide now.