The REAL Jeremiah Johnson aka Liver-Eating Johnson
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2023
- John “Liver Eating” Johnson was the inspiration behind 1972’s Jeremiah Johnson but the real man’s life was even more extraordinary than portrayed on film. Johnson/Johnstone was a sailor, soldier, fur trapper, prospector, scout, Indian fighter, and lawman. Sometimes a good guy, sometimes a bad guy, and always larger than life. Dubbed "Liver-Eating" due to a chilling tale of vengeance, he allegedly killed Crow warriors and consumed their livers, but are these stories true? Later in his life, Johnston assumed the role of constable in Coulson, Montana, and served as a town marshal in Red Lodge. However, his journey came to an end in 1900 when he passed away in a veteran's hospital in Los Angeles. Decades later his remains would be relocated to Cody, Wyoming, where they now rest alongside other legendary figures of the Old West. #wildwest #history #western
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Probably watched Jeremiah Johnson 100+ times in the VHS days. Classic movie
Definitely a classic
He was looking for a Hawken rifle, .50 caliber or better.
@@johnjohnon8767 Also, heard he roast a pretty good rabbit. Least that 's what I heard. 😉
It is a very realxing and inspiring movie. I was a kid when it came out. Pushed me out into the woods, and also taught me some respect, and care. I was a kid, so didn't care about the actual history. It's cool to hear all these tales, though. It's still a special movie to me. I love the woods, can't stand cities. Rode the subways in NYC for decades..lol. Smelling pee on the way to and from work on the subways everyday...lol
His final resting place in Cody is in the Old Trail Town attraction. His grave is in view of his camping spot near the cliffs. He also used to heal himself in the nearby spring there. His exhumation and reburial photos are also located in a nearby cabin.
thanks, didn't know this. Been to Cody many times, not to Old Trail Town. On the list.
Josh you are absolutely killin' it. Your channel is growing and it's well deserved. There are way too many creators who just regurgitate the books they've read. Your research, insight and humor are what keep me coming back.
I appreciate that
@@WildWestExtravaganza Why no mention of what Indian scalps were worth?
@@musicmadgic6931i don't know
I love the fact when you were signing off you said " thats about all O got on liver eatin johnson" , man that was the most indepth study of the man ive ever heard. Very good job.
Thanks!
My mother's brother worked at the western museum. As a teenager I spent time there. I saw my first rodeo, bought my first cowboy hat and yes, visited Johnson's grave. Along with the old west town put together with famous buildings. I recommend it.
Hope to go one day myself
Thanks again, but especially with this particular episode. I also thought that “Jeremiah Johnson” was a pure myth and your telling of the story was pure magic. Loved the film and the stories I had heard about this guy. Now I stand corrected and thrilled. So happy there’s some fact behind the myth. Truth is more complicated and interesting than myth, as this episode proves that beyond any shadow of a doubt. Thanks man.
I did too!!! And I was named after the character. (Middle name).
Jeremiah Johnson is among my favourite movies as well
It's a good'un
@@WildWestExtravaganza Just re watched it. I think it's the most accurate representation of the place and time in history shown in a movie, and the acting is probably the best i've witnessed
Nez Pierce = Nay Purs-say.
In 1976 I made a 4' x 8' wrought iron railing ( in 6, 4' pieces ) for the US Forest Service. They told me it was for his grave. I saw the movie so I was proud to do it.
Thanks for an awesome video!
This is a common misconception. I triple checked due to my own inclination to often mispronounce words. It is indeed pronounced the way I say it in this episode - Nez Purse. I actually spoke with a Nez Perce lol. Also, google the Nez Perce and watch a few videos of them speaking. They say it the same way too. I have no doubt that Pierced Nose in French is like you say, but I'll defer to the tribe as far as how to say their name.
@@WildWestExtravaganza I trust your research and I will amend my ways. Just so you know my great grandpa was Billy Williams.
Thanks for what you do. I love your channel!
Oh cool! Old Billy Williams? I start off tomorrow's episode talking about him.
I was about to say that if you were speaking French that would be how to pronounce the words, but as the term is being spoken in English to English speakers the pronunciation is correct because that is how we pronounce those vowels and consonants. We don't strive for classical Latin or ecclesiastical Latin perfect pronunciation when we say "et cetera" either, because the term is pronounced with English rules not Latin ones when spoken by Anglophones. But your answer is better, even if my statement is true. @@WildWestExtravaganza
Thank you for sharing this video with all of us. After watching this, I went over to Amazon and watched the movie. It was just as good as I remembered it being.
It's a great movie!
Just found your channel. Binge watching. Can't stop. Somebody help me.
Don't stop!
Josh is absolutely great, I love his work.
Order pizza & beer! Buckle up & enjoy the ride 🤘🤠
welcome to the club....
Just signed up on Patreon because I can't figure out this YT payment thing.
Not far off 20K subs, mate you're flying now!
This old Limey really enjoys it when places in Montana are mentioned, it helps bring the story to life when I can visualise the land.
Big sky country!
Now Josh you know people prefer to believe fiction over fact🙁. Lucky for you, you know how to make good story out of the truth. Keep up the good work!👏
Wow thanks for clearing up all those questions I had about J.J. this was a great story about a tough sob. This is a awesome channel
Glad you enjoyed it
Jeremiah Johnson made his way into the mountains, great movie
One of the best
My favourite book is Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors by James Hornfischer. Excellent source material for a video on Ernest Evans, the Cherokee skipper of USS Johnston.
Whoop be ki d rewind thanks for the intro my friend lol
I bought "Crow Killler" a few years back at my local socialist bookstore. They ate tofu not liver.
I raised a few eyebrows after the clerk read the full title outloud.
I gave a wink and stated equally as loud, "Just doing a little light after dinner reading!"
Liver is fine eating
@@WildWestExtravaganza Yep.
@@johnmccarty8941 Crow liver ain`t fit to eat.
@@wleebraz Try it with green onions and Habenara sauce.
My dogs love my raw freeze-dried livers.
This was pretty well researched. The host/ narrator has rightfully debunked LOTS of the myth surrounding this particular figure. I LOVED the film-- still do-- but, years later-- and since developing an interest in the history of the early North American Fur-Trade and various American Indigenous cultures, in general-- you soon start sifting through the misinformation and lore. Which there is LOTS of. That said, I still LOVE the highly exaggerated journals and interviews of these, otherwise, amazing men and their adventurers. Many accounts I've heard about Johnson over the years, as gripping as the varying interpretations may have been-- a number of the events depicted in the film would leave one scratching their head. Though it was an intense film at the time-- even to this, then, 9-10 year old-- the scene with Redford kicking the hell out of these HIGHLY skilled Indigenous characters with such relative ease-- like most Westerns prior to, say, the mid '70s --- I knew was simply to accentuate the high-adventurousness of an otherwise damned good story. I know series like 'Legends and Lies' pissed off a number of people that dive head first into this particular era, because it debunked lots of what is typically taught in the classroom. That said, whichever the degree of farfetched interpretation aside, to have actually ventured into , and exist, in that area of the country --at this particular time in history-- without doubt, you had to had been one tough SOB! A complete badazz if you were able to had survived more than 2-3 years. 7+ years-- certainly PRIOR to, say, 1835-- would definitely put you at Rock-Star status in my book! (sorry for all the errors and faulty grammar. Had to write this real quick.) I'm really enjoying this channel.
But, but, but it’s not Wednesday!!!! What will I do tomorrow!😂😂
I know I'm gonna enjoy this! 😃🤠
Hope so
Brother, seems every week that number by the subs keeps going up.... Well deserved!
I appreciate it!
@@WildWestExtravaganzaI just started following ya!❤
I love listening to your videos and learning about these larger than life historical American bad asses!! I listened to you talk about Al Swearengen from Deadwood and the infamous "Gem" saloon and im hooked!! Great job!
Thanks!
I spent much of my youth at my uncles house In little York Nj a tiny town that in Jeremiah’s time would have been absolutely remote (it’s about an hour and 30 minutes drive from Nyc and 30 or so from Philadelphia) when I was young my parents would send me there when I got in trouble at home in the city. I learned to hunt fish and appreciate nature there. Ironically I also saw the film Jeremiah Johnson for the first time there without knowing that the man himself was born yards from where I saw it (like I said it’s a tiny town ) I had to stop the podcast and call my father to tell him ,thank you for your excellent podcast !
Oh cool! And thank YOU
I'm new to your podcast and really enjoy your work. Would you consider doing one on Bass Reaves if you haven't already? He was born a slave but became one of the fiercest and most respected lawmen in the Indian Territories. Thanks for your work?
Absolutely going to do another episode on Reeves
Awesome stuff, there cowboy... thanks for all your great vids and hard work!
Thanks for listening
Bloody Beaver putting in work.
Keep em coming J. THUMBSUP
Much appreciated
Beaver Trappin Josh back on the trail again
On it
I’m sure his real name is Beaver eatin Josh…or so the stories are told! 😉
I got that also 😮
@@michaeltwowolves3055what's it taste like 🤔
They say everything tastes like chicken 🤷🏻♂️
Josh, you are hilarious! I like your unique style.
Thank you, Ross
This is a fascinating video, incredibly researched....thank you so much. I am a Welshman, living in Japan - I have done so for over 21 years - my family is Japanese - I know nothing of American history,,,,,However, I will correct that - liked and subbed! Thank you once again, young fella.
Thanks!
This guy is supposed to be in my family tree. Learned more from you then my own family. Thanks for information.
That's pretty cool!
Do you live in NJ.?
I hauled corn from a farm in Harmony NJ.
Near where he was from.
I love the sense of humor in this video
Thank you Sir, Hollywood needs to hire you to be the narrator of Young Guns 3.
Ha
😂🤣😂 Josh, the "Compared to Johnson Chuck Norris is a.........". Brother ya went into History.....it should have been comedy 😂
Chick Norris doesn't skin grizz, though, he stomps his foot and points down, and they take their coats off.
Josh there are so many commercials on Crow Killer I gave up at the half way point. You are a great story teller and I'm happy that your channel is monetized but the frequency of the ad spots ends up getting in the way of a good yarn.
I'm named after that guy because our tribe doesn't the crow, mom said they actually cheered during the movie when he killed the crow. Lol
Loved the opening 😂I was sold soon as it started ,he was a wild man ✊
Glad you enjoyed!
The discription of the knife holster got my like. That was original.
The Vasily Blokhin story is insane. Literally
Definitely
Great Channel!
Love to learn about Liver Eating Johnson.
And one of my favorite movies, Jeremiah Johnson!
Salute to my Father, "Big Lou", (R.I.P.), who always took me to see movies as a kid!
Salute to Big Lou!
Bloody Beaver Actual
back in business.
🇺🇲🤘🇺🇲
I'm trying, Jed
I haven't yet watched this, but I scrolled through your plethora of videos, and you enjoy the West's vast history as much as me. I'm glad i misjudged this book. Back for more.
Im glad too
Still love how you worked the Prince reference on your episode about Quannah Parker!
Quannah Parker smoked alot of peyote and started the Native American Peyote Christian religion.
I was in MT, I forget the town, but his cabin is in the middle besides the visitors center. A bedroom is bigger.
I re-listen to All your topics because you are an excellent And amazing presenter of information i love but lol 😆 already know about 85; percent of but it simply doesn't matter. You did pronounce Dutchland incorrectly pertaining to Germany on another show. You said doooshland....I laughed so hard being of German decent and having been there several times. It's pronounced Dutchland not even Dutchland but definitely not dushland lol 😆😂 you are the best narrator I've ever listened to on a podcast.you have talent.peace out my phone took a hit so sorry if the Grammer is off. Keep up the excellent work Josh
Very interesting episode on Jeremiah Johnson. Definitely looking forward to the episode on Cherokee Bill, living in Oklahoma my whole life i have always had an interest in the wild west history of Oklahoma including the Lawmen and Outlaws of Oklahoma. Never been to Cherokee Bill's grave before its about 3 hours away from me.
Yeah, Bill is a lot of fun to research
Will Picketts Auto biography pretty good he worked at the 101 Ranch somewhere in the neighborhood of Blackwell Oklahoma some say that was the biggest Ranch and Tom Mix was at his funeral and cried over it .the thing I found most fascinating will Pickett could take off after a coyote rope it off horseback , a reporter asked him Ranch got its name Rumor Has It was 101 mi from Dodge City or it was near the hundred first Meridian. Will said no they would take the ID brand from the military for the Indian and change it to 101.
Lonesome Dove has been a favorite of mine from way back ,i still watch it couple of times a year lal
It never gets old
Tom Hanks is a sick peto but love what you do keep it up.
No one with a damn brain would say this channel is an “AI Voice”!! Cheers Josh! You fuckin rock 🍻🤠!!!!!
just obnoxious
@@zsedcftglkjh hehehe that ain’t “obnoxious” snowflake
Just found this channel and subscribed. Thought this was Danny Mcbride's voice for a second lol. Im sure he probably hears that all the time.
Welcome aboard!
CAVVVV-alary lol!!! Next we need to work on “Fry-Gate” lmfao
Haha. I definitely say frigate wrong but I am saying cavalry correctly, it's just for some reason with my dumb mush mouth it sounds like I'm not.
@@WildWestExtravaganza no mush mouth amigo, you do great work. Keep it up!
@@psalms1441 gracias!
Well researched thoroughly entertaining props to you!
Thanks Jeff!
Whether you choose to believe it or not, Crow Killer is a pretty good not too terribly long read. 👍🍻
I ´ve bought DVD this year. It is one of the 100 Great movies at All. ❤😂
It's so good!
There’s absolutely NO truth to the rumor that Clammidity Jane worked as a professional sword swallower in Deadwood going by the name of Beaver Eatin’ Johnson. (Yes, I meant to say Clammidity Jane)
Hugh Glass was also a true Badass
UA-cam gotta be making a mint offa you. I've literally had an ad every 4 minutes. Makes it real hard to stay engaged
Jeremiah Johnson is one my all time favorite movies too. I haven't seen it that many times though, maybe ten
It's good!
Just watched it again yesterday after listening to part of this video. Still a good flick!
Yeah it is
Grew up on westerns and you know why I always wanted hawkin rifle.
Thanks for this great episode!
My pleasure
Congratulations sir on hitting 20,000 subscribers!!👍🎉
Many many thanks!!!
No man has unquestionable integrity and honesty. It gets even worse when books get revised and newer history books say the exact opposite of old ones with no real evidence to do so. This isnt always the case but it does happen. I was never very interested in this topic growing up my area of interest was the world history. Religion or beliefs of the groups, what people believe more than anything else determines their actions. Doing a broad general approach like this gives you the border for the jigsaw puzzle assuming you put it together right. But you really wont know unless you zoom in and make sure all the sections match and arent just jammed together because you want it to. I appreciate channels like yours and I hope you are able to be financially stable enough to raise a family if you want it. But back to the original topic, honesty. If I say something thats false but believe it am I lieing? Because I odviously wouldnt be telling truths. Id be telling what I would term honest lies. If you look into Islam for instance and really look at the history its clear the leaders never believed it, theres been deliberate changes throughout its history to the texts and the leaders do things that demonstrate they themselves could not possibly believe. Being a historian today is like sifting through quicksand searching for slippery tentacles. And thats what you are, albeit a specialist. Theres very few people who do what you do. A keeper of stories. You dont have to work for a museum or a king to be a historian, or have gone to a school (as if they teach history anyway). You have to read history books, know history, convey those stories to the best of your ability. I think thats what youre doing, though in the world of deception who can know anything for certain. Anyways God bless you if youre trying to be an honest one.
I know of a mountain man corpse that was found in my community in the 60s. The authorities were never involved, so I have no idea who he was.
Woah crazy
@@WildWestExtravaganza it drives me crazy, I want to know who and his story.
They use to have writers in the late 1800`s that rote down peoples life stories. They would embellish the stories to sell more books.
Bloody beaver!
Average height of a man back then was 5’5”. So a man 5’11” might be considered a giant to some. )
Lincoln 6'3 always surrounded by children 😂
@@phoradio1277 jolly green giants walking the earth with guns.
I live in Lethbridge, Alberta. Fort Whoop Up is located here however it was further up the river valley during those days. Fort Walsh, where Sitting Bull more or less crossed the border, is also quite close. Along with the area's own rich history it also has this sort of overflow from the American west. I'm sure it's one of the reasons Alberta's referred to as a sort of Texas of the north. Of course, it's meant to be derogatory, typically used by our eastern superiors to make sure we know they're better than we are. Not how I see it, though.
Looks like a beautiful area
@@WildWestExtravaganza A lot of westerns have been shot around here. Unforgiven, Open Range, Hell On Wheels, The Revenant. Remember Texas Rangers with James Vanderbeek and Dylan McDermott? That one too. Earlier this year there was one in production based on a Joe R. Lansdale book with James Hetfield in a role. Looking forward to that one.
i like your video's content, and also have seen jeremiah johnson a few times,....myself. but, man when i think of all the beautiful landscapes, and pics you could have used, the just 1 image things is hard to digest for an hour......
interesting topic, though.
Thanks! I agree that just one photo is subpar. However, by the time I'm done with research, writing, recording, and editing, I simply do not have time for anything else. This is primarily an audio production but, if I can ever afford it, I would like to incorporate a visual aspect as well.
Awesome as always
Hello
Hunter’s hot springs was in Springdale MT. Hunter hot springs is no longer there. My Aunt said there was a picture of him. The last people that owned it had the picture of him. I had the opportunity to swim there in the early sixties. I don’t have much more information enjoyed your pod cast.
Thanks
Thanks Don
Can't cheat the mountain, Pilgrim
Growing up in Billings I’m thankful for all the history. These men are heroes of mine. You should do a video on joe medicinecrow
I did! If you scroll down you'll find it...i think it was a couple of years ago
man just described my wife's TV habits....guessing she'd have bought a pickled ear if she lived back in the day.
Chuck Norris fears liver eatin Johnson
Ha
That was great, got alot done while going back in time . my fav movie too. Pilgram🤠🤠🤠
Thanks pilgrim
LOL The great battle of Dawson's Creek. Loved it.
I did my own search for the cutoff age during the Civil War - 45 was what came back...
I'm a big fan of the movie though, thanks!!
Thanks bubba.
I read Crow Killer thrice over a period of 20 years, the first time when I was about 14.
At first I believed all of it, then the scepticism set in as I grew older. It's impossible to kick a grown man and send him flying through the air, no matter how strong you are.
Your video confirms my suspicions. Thanks again!
Love your comments on The Sum of All Fears (best book ever) & the movie with the same name (but no relation to the book). Love the Jeremiah Johnson movie, but also enjoy the truthful story.
Like not every day but that Ks/mo border land was wild for a long time.
The Rifleman holds the record lol
Matt Dillon of Gunsmoke is there with em😅
When i was in the army 39 was still the xutoff point for officers. It was younger for enlisted men.
At least i think it was 39 for officers. It was over 20 years ago.
My great great great grandfather fought liver eatin Johnson in a knuckle and skull old fashioned Donnybrook on the green river at a rendezvous !
There are only a few movies ever made. The godfather, Jeramiah Johnson, pulp fiction …. I saw it in the theater… so so good
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
More to come!
From your own accounts Johnson seemed pretty quick to correct gross exaggerations of his exploits. By comparison he sounded a lot more honest and credible than most of the Wild West figures.
I knew a crow Indian girl who told me that Jeremiah Johnson was still talked about and hated by the crow people to this very day .. now i don't know if she got the name mixed up or not . But i knew her pretty well , i was dating her ..
I hauled corn from a farm in NJ. where he was from, he was a Garrison. I told him he was related to Jeremiah Johnson.
My great grandpa was friends with Robert Edgar who actually moved liver eating Johnson’s body to the Wild West town he ran in Wyoming where he is buried today
Outstanding episode, sir. I truly enjoy the way you tell it!
I got recurrent tick fever last year and it likedbto kill me. I kept goimg to work taking a combination of Ibu and Tylenol for about two weeks but every night, my fever would spike up to 102 and get terrible body aches, joint pain, nausea, and wicked chills. Id been to 2 different walk in clinics over the weeks and was on antibiotics. I thought i had some crazy cancer or something. I shouldnt have been working or driving as i was barely hilding on to reality. Felt like i was half alive and half dead. Finally, my fever spiked to 104.7 and i was hallucinating and talking all kinds of wild shit. Went to the ER, where they told me they wouldnt do blood work without a dr ordering them so i went next door to the clinic part, where my wife works and just helped myself into a room and passed out. They ran a shit ton of tests, pumped me full of IVs and got me on the right meds. Wild shit. Im 45 and ive had everything from chicken pox, covid, broken bones and surgeries, food poisoning, and every which type of flu. Nothing quite messed me up as that god damned tick. Im just glad it wasn't the Alpha gal type where you cant eat meat after it!
Dang, that’s scary
On body counts, you might want to look into a Finnish sniper called "The White Death." He racked up 505 kills in just under 100 days. According to his enemies.
Now Daniel Boone was known to stroll around buck naked in the woods of Kentucky when he was by himself
Was he?
Ya I believe it was Simon Kenton but at any rate it was another frontiersman ran into Boone he saw him walking across a clearing with his gun over his shoulder with his pack hanging on the stock. I first heard about it on the Kentucky history Channel on the UA-cam but they also do a podcast but ya I never would have thought that but ya it happened 🤷
I've never been one to eat liver...
... But I'm subscribed, so here we go! Giddy up, pard!
Let's gooooo
Even a mess of onions don't do it any justice...
Where can! Watch the full movie,,?
You got hook up with audible. I myself have downloaded a ton of books based on your recommendations.
I've read "Crow Killer," and it's every bit as outrageous as the narrator describes it.
I liken it to "Pecos Bill" meets "The Evil Dead."
Ha
He may have known a beaver eating Johnson with all that beaver he was trapping. LOL
I enjoy beaver eating myself 😅
Went to buy you a coffee and ended up joining the UA-cam channel
Seems I remember hearing mention that he worked on the pk ranch north of Billings as a cook on the musselshell River before he ended up in red lodge. I'd have to relocate the book but it was about the early times in the Golden Valley if I find it ill post the title
Excellent 👍
The people NEED Captain Bob Lee and John Wesley Hardin videos!!!
Soon!
Man I Don't know anybody that sounds like Danny McBride except Danny McBride. Prove me wrong, I never miss.
I've been thinking the same thing