I see you hit 4k subscribers! That's awesome! I have to say that I love this type of content. I'm so over the tribal bickering and just eat up the kind correction and explanation of our churches teaching. God bless ya, Drew.
Everyone who starts a new ‘church’ or appoints themselves as ‘pastor’ has to first believe that Jesus lied when he said “the gates of Hell will not prevail against it”.
Very respectful, intelligent and articulate. This was truly incredible! Thank you so much! Added to favorites! Can I add anymore exclamation marks?!?!?
That was an excellent explanation, Drew! Good job! Under the Old "Law" (Covenant/Testament) the Jews had a definite structure of hierarchy. Why can't people see that it makes perfect sense that it was God that created that structure, based on the Authority He gave to Moses, for a reason? Then, Jesus continued it in the New "Law" (Covenant/Testament) when He gave the Keys of Heaven to Peter and sent the Apostles out into the world to build His Church? God is the same yesterday, today and forever. If it ain't broke, He doesn't need to fix it... or to change it!
Not to mention that the Protestant ecclesiology leads to chaos, imagine running a country or kingdom that way, where every layman interprets the laws for themselves. To say that the Old covenant has order but the new doesn’t it’s kind of ludicrous.
@@simplydanny Especially when your religion (Christianity) is the fruit of New Testament. At the same time Protestants (or at least certain sects) have this weird affection towards modern Jews, sometimes even to such bizarre extends as to treat them as being _higher_ than Christians because _muh Chosen People_ and _muh Old Testament laws_ . And modern Jews are not even the same as OT Jews!
"and I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build MY Church...". Jesus doesn't say "A Church" or "The Church" or "one of my Churches" he says "MY CHURCH" that presupposes that there are or will be other churches that are not his, doesn't it???
I have no idea what your point is but my point is that Jesus calls the Church built upon the rock of Peter "MY" Church. As a Catholic it is crystal clear to me that the Catholic Church is the Church built upon Peter and therefore the only Church that Jesus is referring to. You agree or not???
Did i ask where in the new testament are we commanded to build alters or church buildings? Didn't right after that Jesus told Peter get behind me Satan.
Excellent and very respectful. Random thought. Apostles walked with Jesus. Apostles were taught directly by Jesus. Peter James and John witnessed the Transfiguration - divinity of Jesus. They saw miracles, demons cast out, Lazarus risen from the dead and yet it wasnt enough. Jesus wasn’t enough!! 😳. The Word Himself wasn’t enough for the Apostles and disciples. They were ready to go back fishing. It was only when the Holy Spirit came down over them (‘The’ Church), that ‘everything’ Jesus taught came back to them and they were no longer😢 afraid of the Cross. THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY JESUS, was now enlightened and empowered by the Holy Spirit and was completely unified. No division. They went out in all directions teaching THE EXACT SAME TRUTH. No apostle or disciple went forth giving his own interpretation. The Holy Spirit is the source of all Truth of Jesus that is passed down thru the Church. The Holy Spirit can not change truth. Men however can misinterpret. The Catholic Church’s teaching are the same today as when Peter, James, John etc taught as they journeyed preaching the Good News. The Early Church Fathers reveal that.
Oh God, some believe themselves to be Jews but are not. Some books in the new testament are describing what happened in the old testament under the law. What is body of Christ doctrine? Romans through Philemon. You mentioned Paul but not the revelation of the mystery?
The problem with Dewayne's new channel is that he is forbidding discussions and debates about the essential "fine points" of the Catholic-Protestant divide. That's impractical because the issues are important and complex. Shutting down discussion is his way of making his own views "water-tight" and unfailingly "correct". Which is the chief reason I Unsubscribed from his "Bible channel".
@@3BadBostons Dewayne is no prophet and he argues theology without permitting others to fully discuss and defend their views. He's not a prophet. He's a Protestant disseminating all its predictable biases.
Sir you should very well listen to the man in the tack room, He speaks as the oracles of God, and everything he says lines up with scripture. I watched that very video just today probably the reason I am watching your video now. That man is a prophet of God in the sense that he speaks the Word of God as written.
If the body of Christ is the church then the church has always existed and never had a start because God is eternal. How can the carnal mind comprehend its own carnality? Scripture Their traditions make void the word of God, scripture.
I just thought of something: Jesus said “the gates of the netherworld/hades shall not prevail against [his church]”, could this be used as a support for intercession of the saints? We have a tendency to read this and think of it like hell and the devil assailing the gates of the church and they will not ultimately succeed, but more plainly it has an offensive connotation, like the church assailing the gates of the dead. Hades and hell aren’t quite the same thing, one is a place of the dead (before Christ), and one is a place of damnation. To say the gates of the realm of the dead shall not prevail against the church (which brings life) correlates with how the church (the body of Christ) cannot he separated, in this sense, even by death. Since we are one in prayer, death does not stop us from appealing to our victorious brethren in heaven.
I've ruminated on that something similar, but I like your point. Unless there is something missing in our English translation, it appears that the Church will prevail in knocking down hell's gates not the other way around. But, it could also have something to do with the resurrection? I don't know? Just things I ponder.
What does scripture say? God is Spirit and must be worshipped in Spirit. Church might not mean body of Christ. Many confuse Christ with Christianity. Your traditions make void the word of God? The first Christians were Jews under the law. Beware of ecumenicalism. You have to know the Who What When Where and Why. You have to rightly divide the word of truth. Carnal people have carnal churches. Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Acts is a transitional book going from law to grace and never mix law with grace or you will have neither.
Flesh is sin and sin is death so what is it you think you can do in the flesh. Where in scripture does it say if I'm not catholic then I'm not saved? His body is Spirit.
The trinity is not scriptural. The Godhead is scriptural. The Father = The Soul of God. Jesus = The Body of God. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God. Jesus is God. Yes you're mixing the law with grace. Peter was sent to the Jews. I see you're into collective salvation. Jesus found me in my doubt and disbelief in my room by myself and saved me anyway and I was an atheist. Thank God it wasn't a book that saved me it was Jesus Himself. Who saved you? Rightly divide past,present, and future. Jesus is the Church not a building or your denomination. You know scripture but you're not rightly dividing the word of truth.
*THE ELIAKIM-PETER TYPOLOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE PAPACY* In the Bible, Joseph and Eliakim were given symbols of their unique authority and stewardship in their respective kingdoms (cf. Genesis 41:40-44, Isaiah 22:20-22). The symbols of authority given to Joseph and Eliakim were a signet ring and a key, respectively.
The office of steward passed from Shebna to Eliakim, demonstrating that while the person holding this office may be replaced or die, the office itself continues under the authority of the king.
Jesus is the King of kings (cf. 1 Timothy 6:15, Revelation 17:14).
Jesus alluded to Isaiah 22:20-22 when speaking to Peter in Matthew 16:18-19, indicating a parallel between Eliakim's role and Peter's role.
Jesus gave Peter the "keys of the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 16:19) as a symbol of his unique authority and stewardship.
Therefore, Jesus established the office of steward in His kingdom, the Church.
Therefore, Peter held the authoritative stewardship role within the kingdom of heaven, analogous to Eliakim's role in the kingdom of Israel.
Jesus' kingdom, the Church, is eternal and will never end (cf. Daniel 7:14, Luke 1:33).
The office of steward within the Church has continued and will continue until Christ's return.
Peter died, and the office of steward passed from Peter to his successors sequentially, as evidenced by the early Church's recognition of the bishops of Rome as Peter's successors.
Therefore, Peter's successors, the Popes of the Catholic Church, have continued serving in this office, ensuring continuity in leadership and the preservation of Christ's authority within the Church.
Gen 45:8 "So now it was not you who sent me here, but God; and He has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house, and a ruler throughout all the land of Egypt." Isaiah 22:21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and trengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.
The irony of 22 and 23, right below his first example. 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. 23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Sure he did. Jesus, being Jewish, of a Jewish mother, with Jewish apostles, built a Roman Catholic church? Sure he did. And the pope built protestant churches also. First you gotta show proof that Jesus, Peter, Mary and the apostles were Roman Catholic. Truth is not one of them EVER believed, taught or practiced ANYTHING Roman Catholic. You surely can't tell by reading Peter's epistles. He says nothing about the Catholic priesthood or the saints as the church know the. He mentions no rosary, eucharist nothing. I guess he wasn't a very good pope? How about Mary? Why didn't she baptize Jesus as an infant? Do you Catholics know why she offered a sin sacrifice for herself? Because SHE believed that she was unclean. Why? I'll leave the rest for you to search the scriptures. So this idea or myth that Peter this and Peter that and Mary also, is nothing but made up theology. The church just can't make someone Catholic because it says so. Look at their actions and beliefs. Not an ounce of Catholicism in any of them.
Matthew 15 8:9 8‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. 9And in vain, they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ” He conveniently skips this as well.
First of all the Roman rite is one of 23 other rites of the catholic church!! That's what catholic means "universal"!! I'd love to go through each objection but let's take a few. St .Paul doesn't teach Catholicism?? Well in I Corinthians 2:10. He is forgiving sins in "persona christi " he offers priestly sacrifice in Romans 15:16
@@henrybayard6574 that's right. Catholic means universal. Just not ROMAN catholic. Two totally different things. The Catholic church as it is commonly known just conveniently latched on to that. Paul as does Peter are not talking about a Roman Catholic priesthood. There is no such thing in the NT. who does Peter call the priests? And who does Peter call saints. He doesn't align with who your RCC says. You can twist scripture all you want but nobody believed or taught Catholicism from scripture. Why? First, they weren't ROMAN catholic and then ROMAN Catholics is foreign to scripture. FACT!!!
@@DrewTheCatholic Képhas: "a rock," Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter Original Word: Κηφᾶς, ᾶ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: Képhas Phonetic Spelling: (kay-fas') Definition: "a rock", Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter Usage: Cephas (Aramaic for rock), the new name given to Simon Peter, the apostle. ummm it is gendered they also use Kepha a separate but still equally masculine
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You could not have been more kind & respectful & at the same time sharing truth in this response! Very well done! 🙏
Thank you! 🙂
I see you hit 4k subscribers! That's awesome! I have to say that I love this type of content. I'm so over the tribal bickering and just eat up the kind correction and explanation of our churches teaching. God bless ya, Drew.
Awesome! Thank you!
Everyone who starts a new ‘church’ or appoints themselves as ‘pastor’ has to first believe that Jesus lied when he said “the gates of Hell will not prevail against it”.
This was good work man.
Appreciate it!
Very respectful, intelligent and articulate. This was truly incredible! Thank you so much! Added to favorites! Can I add anymore exclamation marks?!?!?
Wow thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Putting us all to shame with the new lighting
Yeah but I don't have any Catholic books behind me, so it doesn't matter
@DrewTheCatholic I mean, are you even a Catholic youtuber if you don't have 40 encyclopedias behind you!
That was an excellent explanation, Drew! Good job!
Under the Old "Law" (Covenant/Testament) the Jews had a definite structure of hierarchy. Why can't people see that it makes perfect sense that it was God that created that structure, based on the Authority He gave to Moses, for a reason? Then, Jesus continued it in the New "Law" (Covenant/Testament) when He gave the Keys of Heaven to Peter and sent the Apostles out into the world to build His Church? God is the same yesterday, today and forever. If it ain't broke, He doesn't need to fix it... or to change it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Not to mention that the Protestant ecclesiology leads to chaos, imagine running a country or kingdom that way, where every layman interprets the laws for themselves. To say that the Old covenant has order but the new doesn’t it’s kind of ludicrous.
@@simplydanny Especially when your religion (Christianity) is the fruit of New Testament. At the same time Protestants (or at least certain sects) have this weird affection towards modern Jews, sometimes even to such bizarre extends as to treat them as being _higher_ than Christians because _muh Chosen People_ and _muh Old Testament laws_ . And modern Jews are not even the same as OT Jews!
"and I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build MY Church...". Jesus doesn't say "A Church" or "The Church" or "one of my Churches" he says "MY CHURCH" that presupposes that there are or will be other churches that are not his, doesn't it???
@@marymargarette4289 Who said "Our Church"???
I have no idea what your point is but my point is that Jesus calls the Church built upon the rock of Peter "MY" Church. As a Catholic it is crystal clear to me that the Catholic Church is the Church built upon Peter and therefore the only Church that Jesus is referring to. You agree or not???
I think you meant Matthew 23 brother, but great content I use these same arguments.
Yep Matthew 23.
That's the thing about doing this off the cuff lol
@@DrewTheCatholic right, you said it lol
Did i ask where in the new testament are we commanded to build alters or church buildings? Didn't right after that Jesus told Peter get behind me Satan.
JESUS is the KING, and Peter was HIS Prime Minister, as are each Petrine Successor in turn.
Nothing physical brings forth Spiritual life. Come out of her.
Excellent and very respectful. Random thought. Apostles walked with Jesus. Apostles were taught directly by Jesus. Peter James and John witnessed the Transfiguration - divinity of Jesus. They saw miracles, demons cast out, Lazarus risen from the dead and yet it wasnt enough. Jesus wasn’t enough!! 😳. The Word Himself wasn’t enough for the Apostles and disciples. They were ready to go back fishing. It was only when the Holy Spirit came down over them (‘The’ Church), that ‘everything’ Jesus taught came back to them and they were no longer😢 afraid of the Cross. THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY JESUS, was now enlightened and empowered by the Holy Spirit and was completely unified. No division. They went out in all directions teaching THE EXACT SAME TRUTH. No apostle or disciple went forth giving his own interpretation. The Holy Spirit is the source of all Truth of Jesus that is passed down thru the Church. The Holy Spirit can not change truth. Men however can misinterpret. The Catholic Church’s teaching are the same today as when Peter, James, John etc taught as they journeyed preaching the Good News. The Early Church Fathers reveal that.
There's certainly a lot of evidence that the Church has been divinely preserved!
Show me where in the new testament where we are commanded to build alters or church buildings? Shouldn't scripture be square 1 ?
The Catholic Church is a FAMILY!!!!
Excellent exposition of biblical factual truth!
Jesus is the builder of His Church right?
Oh God, some believe themselves to be Jews but are not. Some books in the new testament are describing what happened in the old testament under the law. What is body of Christ doctrine? Romans through Philemon. You mentioned Paul but not the revelation of the mystery?
The problem with Dewayne's new channel is that he is forbidding discussions and debates about the essential "fine points" of the Catholic-Protestant divide. That's impractical because the issues are important and complex. Shutting down discussion is his way of making his own views "water-tight" and unfailingly "correct". Which is the chief reason I Unsubscribed from his "Bible channel".
Prophets of God do not argue theology they speak with God tells them to speak.
@@3BadBostons Dewayne is no prophet and he argues theology without permitting others to fully discuss and defend their views. He's not a prophet. He's a Protestant disseminating all its predictable biases.
The true Church Jesus founded was the Holy Spirit He left with us.
Are you mixing law with grace?
Sir you should very well listen to the man in the tack room, He speaks as the oracles of God, and everything he says lines up with scripture. I watched that very video just today probably the reason I am watching your video now. That man is a prophet of God in the sense that he speaks the Word of God as written.
If the body of Christ is the church then the church has always existed and never had a start because God is eternal. How can the carnal mind comprehend its own carnality? Scripture Their traditions make void the word of God, scripture.
Jesus NEVER said to pray to Mary , confess to a priest for your sins or listen to a pope who is wicked.
Institution?
I just thought of something: Jesus said “the gates of the netherworld/hades shall not prevail against [his church]”, could this be used as a support for intercession of the saints? We have a tendency to read this and think of it like hell and the devil assailing the gates of the church and they will not ultimately succeed, but more plainly it has an offensive connotation, like the church assailing the gates of the dead. Hades and hell aren’t quite the same thing, one is a place of the dead (before Christ), and one is a place of damnation. To say the gates of the realm of the dead shall not prevail against the church (which brings life) correlates with how the church (the body of Christ) cannot he separated, in this sense, even by death. Since we are one in prayer, death does not stop us from appealing to our victorious brethren in heaven.
I've ruminated on that something similar, but I like your point. Unless there is something missing in our English translation, it appears that the Church will prevail in knocking down hell's gates not the other way around. But, it could also have something to do with the resurrection? I don't know? Just things I ponder.
Was Jesus a catholic? Didn't the catholic church start hundreds of years after the cross?
What does scripture say? God is Spirit and must be worshipped in Spirit. Church might not mean body of Christ. Many confuse Christ with Christianity. Your traditions make void the word of God? The first Christians were Jews under the law. Beware of ecumenicalism. You have to know the Who What When Where and Why. You have to rightly divide the word of truth. Carnal people have carnal churches. Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Acts is a transitional book going from law to grace and never mix law with grace or you will have neither.
Flesh is sin and sin is death so what is it you think you can do in the flesh. Where in scripture does it say if I'm not catholic then I'm not saved? His body is Spirit.
Hebrews was written to Hebrews not the body of Christ.
I'm not Jewish or under the law.
Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit? Paganism called where they gathered churches.
The trinity is not scriptural. The Godhead is scriptural. The Father = The Soul of God. Jesus = The Body of God. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God. Jesus is God. Yes you're mixing the law with grace. Peter was sent to the Jews. I see you're into collective salvation. Jesus found me in my doubt and disbelief in my room by myself and saved me anyway and I was an atheist. Thank God it wasn't a book that saved me it was Jesus Himself. Who saved you? Rightly divide past,present, and future. Jesus is the Church not a building or your denomination. You know scripture but you're not rightly dividing the word of truth.
You and Dwayne but can't rightly divide the word of truth.
*THE ELIAKIM-PETER TYPOLOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE PAPACY*
In the Bible, Joseph and Eliakim were given symbols of their unique authority and stewardship in their respective kingdoms (cf. Genesis 41:40-44, Isaiah 22:20-22).
The symbols of authority given to Joseph and Eliakim were a signet ring and a key, respectively.
The office of steward passed from Shebna to Eliakim, demonstrating that while the person holding this office may be replaced or die, the office itself continues under the authority of the king.
Jesus is the King of kings (cf. 1 Timothy 6:15, Revelation 17:14).
Jesus alluded to Isaiah 22:20-22 when speaking to Peter in Matthew 16:18-19, indicating a parallel between Eliakim's role and Peter's role.
Jesus gave Peter the "keys of the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 16:19) as a symbol of his unique authority and stewardship.
Therefore, Jesus established the office of steward in His kingdom, the Church.
Therefore, Peter held the authoritative stewardship role within the kingdom of heaven, analogous to Eliakim's role in the kingdom of Israel.
Jesus' kingdom, the Church, is eternal and will never end (cf. Daniel 7:14, Luke 1:33).
The office of steward within the Church has continued and will continue until Christ's return.
Peter died, and the office of steward passed from Peter to his successors sequentially, as evidenced by the early Church's recognition of the bishops of Rome as Peter's successors.
Therefore, Peter's successors, the Popes of the Catholic Church, have continued serving in this office, ensuring continuity in leadership and the preservation of Christ's authority within the Church.
Gen 45:8 "So now it was not you who sent me here, but God; and He has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house, and a ruler throughout all the land of Egypt."
Isaiah 22:21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and trengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.
The irony of 22 and 23, right below his first example.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
I address that in the video actually.
You mean you dismissed it in about 5 seconds.
That's not addressing.
Well if you're truly interested, I address it in other videos (My first 3 actually) in depth.
Sure he did. Jesus, being Jewish, of a Jewish mother, with Jewish apostles, built a Roman Catholic church? Sure he did. And the pope built protestant churches also. First you gotta show proof that Jesus, Peter, Mary and the apostles were Roman Catholic. Truth is not one of them EVER believed, taught or practiced ANYTHING Roman Catholic. You surely can't tell by reading Peter's epistles. He says nothing about the Catholic priesthood or the saints as the church know the. He mentions no rosary, eucharist nothing. I guess he wasn't a very good pope? How about Mary? Why didn't she baptize Jesus as an infant? Do you Catholics know why she offered a sin sacrifice for herself? Because SHE believed that she was unclean. Why? I'll leave the rest for you to search the scriptures. So this idea or myth that Peter this and Peter that and Mary also, is nothing but made up theology. The church just can't make someone Catholic because it says so. Look at their actions and beliefs. Not an ounce of Catholicism in any of them.
Did you watch the video?
Yeah, they even got the baptism wrong. They Baptize the infant when you are supposed to baptize the new believer. It's all man made doctrine.
Matthew 15 8:9
8‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9And in vain, they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”
He conveniently skips this as well.
First of all the Roman rite is one of 23 other rites of the catholic church!! That's what catholic means "universal"!! I'd love to go through each objection but let's take a few. St .Paul doesn't teach Catholicism?? Well in I Corinthians 2:10. He is forgiving sins in "persona christi " he offers priestly sacrifice in Romans 15:16
@@henrybayard6574 that's right. Catholic means universal. Just not ROMAN catholic. Two totally different things. The Catholic church as it is commonly known just conveniently latched on to that. Paul as does Peter are not talking about a Roman Catholic priesthood. There is no such thing in the NT. who does Peter call the priests? And who does Peter call saints. He doesn't align with who your RCC says. You can twist scripture all you want but nobody believed or taught Catholicism from scripture. Why? First, they weren't ROMAN catholic and then ROMAN Catholics is foreign to scripture. FACT!!!
Aramaic is a sematic language and is Gendered
But the word "rock" is not gendered in Aramaic. It's Kephas either way.
@@DrewTheCatholic Képhas: "a rock," Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter
Original Word: Κηφᾶς, ᾶ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Képhas
Phonetic Spelling: (kay-fas')
Definition: "a rock", Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter
Usage: Cephas (Aramaic for rock), the new name given to Simon Peter, the apostle.
ummm it is gendered they also use Kepha a separate but still equally masculine