This is why I come to UA-cam! To watch crazy insane OCD people do unbelievable things that I would never dream of doing! This guy is amazing and inspiring! Suddenly my weekend hack project 1. Doesn’t seem so difficult, and 2. Will probably be a little more accurate due to what I just learned. All I can say is thank you!
This press has worked like a charm for my projects ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxajoEbapTfqWaadnqb04h6U576yxXp-FE . I didn't even secure it to my table top, mainly due to the fact that I was using a 15 lbs drill vise. It's not flimsy at all as to what others have claimed it to be. Make sure the locking nuts and levers are secured and there won't be any issues with light pressure and patience. I was able to drill through aluminum, plastic, and steel (steel took a while) with no problems at all. Yeah it took a little longer than a regular drill press, but I don't have the space OR the money for one.The instruction manual was worthless, but luckily assembling the press was intuitive. However, the manual would be good for ordering replacement parts if needed. There is a nice breakdown of the parts that are included in the kit. Before ordering, make sure it is compatible with your unit, it is clearly stated what models the press is compatible with.This was an excellent purchase for $40!!
I started out pretty similar situation. However I have a 4x4 table and I got to the second row and I couldn't take it anymore. So that project turned into a better idea and 40,000 dollars (and and very unhappy wife) later I purchased a Tormach 1100Mx. After 3 weekends playing around and learning a few tricks I had made a few new friends on the internet help rooms. One of the guys I had met had a Haas and after he had been over a few times he was very helpful and took my 4x4 1inch plate and drilled out the plate for me. So even now today we toss each other a few projects, I love the community for metal working!
I think for a normal person like me the best would be to send it to be laser/water jet cut to the almost final measurement and just do the reaming by myself. That I think would save me a lot of hours.
Never in a million years would I have guess you could use that router with standard carbide/wood bits. Looking forward to trying this on my next metal project. Great looking table. Lot of work.
I did not experiment on speed very much. My cordless Mikita goes to 5 and I had it on 4🤷🏻♂️ Since the bits I used were carbide tipped I could get away with higher speed but really I just don’t know if slower would have been better on tool life. The finish was excellent. On depth of cut I went full depth right out of the gate. 1/16” 45deg chamfers on bottom, 1/8” radius on outside edge and 1/16” radius on top holes. Tool life: Chamfer tool(Diablo from Home Depot) was the winner. Only used one. It did all 253 holes like a boss and started to show signs of wear at the end when doing the bottom outside edge. It took two 1/8” radius bits to do the top outside edges. 1st bit did all the work and the second bit was a finisher that is still in great condition. The 1/16” radius bit required 2 bit and it looks dang good but I will get one more before the project is completed for a final cleanup. Thanks!
I will say, if I only wanted 45deg chamfers, I would consider strongly looking at the pneumatic chamfer hand tool that uses indexable carbide insert. You can find them on Amazon. I plan on getting one down the road. But on this project I was set on putting some radius corners, so the router was my choice for execution.
I totally dig the effort, I too build as much as I can, that’s a table you would never part with, it’s personal. However, understanding the value in a bought table is apparent after seeing your effort. Good stuff!
@@nubtools really want to save time? Design in CAD and have a laser cutter do it for you! It's cheaper than you'd think and it takes the guesswork out of it.... or buy one of the iron ones... they really aren't that bad!!
Beware!! You need a special annular cutter designed for stacked plates (in this particular situation), otherwise the slug+washer that the cutter creates in the first hole will prevent the teeth from biting into the second plate and you will need to remove this first slug to continue the cutting. The stacked plates cutters cut on the INSIDE instead of the OUTSIDE, so they create perfect cilindrical slugs, without the flat "hat". Other than that, yes, annular cutters is the way to go, moreover if you are RENTING THE MAG DRILL!
Yeah... as soon as I saw him pilot drill I heard the "oh no, oh no, oh no no no no no" song in my head! Great project nonetheless, but annular cutters will change your life!
Reminds me of a project i did a few years back. Decided to put cove lighting on a set of 4 hexagonal structures being mounted 5inches below the ceiling. Used RGB led stips. Layed them in 1/2 inch C channel that was welded on top. Thought I was going to use quick connections. But they only come in 90 degree turns. Hexagonal is 120 degrees. This meant each strip required 5 wire's to be Sauder. In total just over 3,700 sauder connections were done. Took me 4 weekends. About 150 hrs in total.
Wow! Even though you took the long way around, you were tenacious about getting there without cutting corners. people can always suggest easier ways to get a job done, but you might not have the equipment or even the budget to go the easier and or faster way. You got it done and I am sure it will serve you well. It also looks like you are just as tenacious about answering all the comments. Nice work.
Excellent job on the patience to do the job the most precise way you could. I would think all the extra steps made up a lot for any irregularities in the plate you used and made the table much more precise Awesome.
Hole E cow Congratulations What a great job... It looks too nice to use. Boy did you scare me every time you brushed off the metal chips without gloves
You won yourself a new subscriber!!!... I absolutely admire your patience!!! Thanks for sharing your great project!!! I'm jealous since I don't have as much patience! Please create more extremely high quality videos like this!... I'm watching out for more videos from you! 👍👍👍👍👍🤝🖐️🍻
Hey Mr. Nub....... that is one sick fixture plate........you da MAN!!!!! I have no idea how I got here, but I am staying for sure.....best wishes from Orlando, Florida, Paul
I'll sub. Im doing my own mag drill fixture table. Not nearly as gigged as yours but the 5/8 annular cutter has as a precision fit as your reamed holes with no need to swap 4 bit sizes.
Great question. First, I was dead set on having a reamed hole and holding a very tight tolerance, second the rental mag drills available were all set up with drill chucks. You are absolutely right that angular cutters are a lot faster. Maybe it would have been possible to achieve as good of a hole using the same drill jig set up with them🤷🏻♂️. Surprisingly all my drills had no problem lasting just fine all the way to the end. Thanks for the comment! -Dave
We’ll done! I’ve started a similar project. I’m using a 16mm taper shank drill bit mounted directly into the mag drill. I’m not using a pilot hole and it’s working out fine. So there’s no chuck or bushings involved.
Appreciate a guy that is prepared to go "back to basics"!... Not everyone can afford the most advanced tools/cutters available!... Doing a fantastic job with limited tools ticks my boxes more than someone relying on a CNC MACHINE to perform the job while you're just watching (and drinking beer during) the process!!! I honestly appreciate and respect the effort of my new UA-cam creator!!!... Are there more effective ways of accomplishing the same result?... Most definitely!!!... Is it more satisfying to watch a CNC machine performing all the (same, automated) tasks autonomously?... Most definitely not!!!... If this exact same video was about a CNC machine creating this masterpiece, no one would have watched till the end!!!... (Would've been too boring!!!)
Hope to not disappoint but I am that CNC guy. More accurately an all of the above. My origins were in all the basics but I fully embrace the awesomeness of computer controlled tools. There is beauty in all of it.
I had my fixture drilled at the metal supplier in aus. 1500x750x12mm plate, with CNC drilled holes it was $125aud ($80usd) for the plate material and drilling/plasma cut to size. I machine a lot of tedious tasks but for the precision and 2 day turn around paying the money was worth it. I will definitely use that carbide router step on the edges of mine now
@@nubtools your workshop looks pretty setup so far. Do you use many shop carts? I use so many in/out carts at the mill and belt grinder Ausfalia has a lot of iron so its dirtcheap wholesale and great quality. But we don't manufacture cromo or cold rolled much which sucks
@@stevewilson1004 I don't even know the name of the shop, they just sell plate steel and I ordered the largest size that fit in their mill. Its down pt road in SA, I'd have to drive there or hunt on maps to find it. I regret not buying 4 of these fixture plates at once though
I bought a 2' x 3' fixture table that seemed just a hair too thin to hold stronghand clamps without them kicking sideways a bit. My solution was to do this template/drill method to an inch thick section of Aluminium plate that measured 1' x 2'. I used a wood CNC to layout 1/4" holes on centers of the grid pattern and used a center punch through the template to mark spots for a mag drill setup with an annular cutter. Now I have a nice block for holding and welding on.
You do nice work, the drill fixture is a work of art . I used to work with this older guy Danny and he did a lot of the lay out work on the flat sheets and he would always use long steel rules 36 inch 0r 48 inch or a folding ruler to lay out his work , I dont know if I ever saw him use a tape measure ... my point is he was spot on every time, and you remind me of Danny
D8 sander would be good for the surface prep to remove mill scale. Though I’d probably start with sand blasting then use a D8 sander. I’m doing something similar but with 1/2” plate and making an L shaped guide jig. Annular cutters works so much better, but your fit using the reamer is very nice.
@@nubtools I really like your attention to detail. Still watching. Used mag drills a lot when I was a fabricator. Always looking for a used one, curious how much rental was? TY
I think it was in the neighborhood of $80/ day. The trick was renting it at the end of the business day on Friday, then not having to bring it back till Monday morning for the same price.
@@nubtools that’s good info. Just finished watching, subscribed and looking forward to your channel. The surface grinding really stepped up the overall finish. Blew me away with the router use, wouldn’t have dreamed the cutters would hold up to steel at that RPM. Well done.
I was wondering why you did not use annular cutters to make your holes. When I did mine I used a 5/8 in annular cutter and I made a jig to center punch to mark a dipple for the center point tip of the annular cutter. I just marked all the holes with the center punch then moved the mag drill to each mark and drilled and it did not take much time at all. You did a fine job and it looks great. What I do to keep the surface protected and clean to spray WD40 on it then wipe off with a towel do this as often as you need. I also cover my table with a large welding blanket when not in use at night etc. Good job there.
I was just set on doing in the way I would if I could have put it on my milling machine. Speed was of no concern. Hard headed. I have been doing the same with WD-40. Thanks for the tips and watching!
Over the length of the table the pattern grew about 1/32”. Straightness and squareness over the entire table turned out amazing and that was my top concern. If I had started in the middle and went in opposite directions maybe I could have split growth in half. Thanks for watching!!
@@nubtools sorry that question was about the centre punch method. I figured your way would be very precise. That’s a tolerance I could definitely live with but don’t have the patience to drill them the same way you did to be honest. Thanks for sharing learnt a few things 👍
I know exactly what you were going through with drilling your holes; I did the same with my welding table, 1" thick x 38" wide x 96" long!! About half way through I had to ask myself why am I doing this!!
The table looks great and I could see it was definitely a lot of work. As I watched I was wondering if you could get away with more widely spaced holes. There wouldn't be nearly as many to drill out and the table would get done with much less labor involved. It seems to me that holes about 6" apart would work fine (at least for the types of things I have done). Or, maybe a hybrid where you have a small portion of the table with close spacing and the other part wider spacing. It would be a huge step up for my home shop to have a fab table but I don't think I could justify the cost of buying one. Building one like you've done is more along the lines of my budget.
Over time you may not appreciate the tolerance you created in that setup. A small amount of heat and those pins may not come out easily. Table looks great, good process, and will be a good tool for future projects.
@@nubtools I did a very similar table last year and made the holes 0.630 instead of 0.625 (5/8"). My clamps use 5/8 standard fixtures and they are nice and tight still. Something to consider if you find your holes are too tight. You can just ream them out the extra 0.005
Hats off to you my friend for sticking at at and getting it done 👍🏻 Very impressed with the drill jig idea snd the use of the router hadn’t seen that done before
I subscribed to your Channel strictly because of this Video! I Love seeing other people who are as OCD as I am about doing something to the absolute Best of your ability, and budget. Yes it may have taken a long time to finish it, but you know in your mind it was done correctly, not to mention that you gained a lot of experience along the way. I Love the Drill Jig, and the Bushings, Excellent Idea! I will be watching some more of your Videos today. Thanks for taking us along for the ride, and keep up the Great Work! What can I trade in my 5 Bonus Points for? since I made it to Super Star status all the way to end. LOL
Drill halfway through the plate from the back side and plug welded to help keep the plate from the delaminating when you start welding you're putting a lot of heat into it
That would be an option for sure and I had considered that but for a few reason I chose not to. I didn’t show it in the video, but the two plates are pinched and welded together inside all 18 bolt holes and many other fixture holes have the seam fused together before I had the plate precision ground. This was not Ideal at all and quite terrible. I should have cut my losses and ordered a solid piece but at the time it was not in the budget. I don’t see the table getting that hot to cause issue and I plan on having risers made for many applications but we shall see, the bullet is down range now.🤷🏻♂️ Thanks so much for watching!
And I was complaining about 80 holes I had to drill on my MDF work table top !!!!!!😂😂😂😂 absolutely beautiful work sir. This has inspired me to build one just like this. Can I ask you how much you paid for the grinding of one side ? Again absolutely awesome !!!!👍
Thank you sir. I’m glad you liked it. I paid $100 to have the one side ground but that was a buddy deal. I later had the other side ground and the table frame for $150 at another shop. I also have recently used another source for the plate and grinding all in one shot. American Grinding in Chicago. That was the best value. Thanks again!
Way cool! I like the work flow. I have an old blemish fixture plate on my mill that I need to improve on. Your method looks like it could work! Keep up the good work
Thanks! Oh I know😫 Like a new pair of shoes. I have already used it a couple of times even though the table isn’t made for it yet, and broke her in with a few scratches.
I would like to try this with an old table saw table. Trying to stay on a budget... I've designed a jig similar to yours, but it's designed to work around the features in the table saw table. But, would it be necessary to ream the holes if I were to use annular cutters?
😂💪 Nice! Sounds great. Are you chasing the hole with drill , end mill or an actual reamer? Also, how thick is your material and how much are the holes undersized before reaming out of curiosity? Thanks for watching!
@@nubtools depend on the customer specs I built a 2.5x4 on 5/8" plate and just reemed with a 16mm end mill on the old Cincinnati knee mill that is the max I can do on the mill thickest I've done is 1" but that was a fixture/weld table I cut that on the plasma and basically did what you did with a mag drill. I've done quite a few of those 1/4" hobby weld tables
Are you happy with the radius on the holes on the top or would you have done the chamfer top and bottom if you did this again? The reason I ask, is that it seems like a chamfer would be easier to clean with a 45degree tool if you got some BB's stuck to it compared to a radius. Just curious as I am about to build mine!
For my tig only use it been just fine and I love the way it looks. But if I were to do it again I would do a chamfer. Specifically because I would use a carbide inserted chamfer air tool this time instead of a router. The radius bits get ate up fast.
I can see the holes being dead nuts on centers but seems most folks just use this to top clamp and use secondary angle jigs and or devices to jig weldments so what is all the hole location precision about?
Came across your video. Nice job! I'm a newbie who has that mag drill and looking to use annular cutters. Seems I'm going to need to get a new chuck to accept Weldon Shank cutters. If anyone on here can set me straight on what I need, I'd love to hear it. Of course, new subscriber 😁🤙
sweet and painstaking where did you get the drill jig I'm currently building a table out of 1/2 and thinking about having it water jet to save time what do you think.
Very nice work! I am looking at doing the same thing and have a few questions. Did you go with removable bushings over press fit to save money? I can see having to switch out the bushing between holes adding a lot of time. Did you use bushings 3/4" long or less to create chip clearance? Was there a reason you used a drill bit and reamer over a annual cutter? Thank you for your time
For this project I used a water based coolant from Milwaukee that I got from McMaster Carr, part # 31625A61 . It worked great and If I remember after being mixed with water you end up with one gallon of coolant. I’m sure other brands are just as good. I do prefer these water based coolants for this type of application cause they don’t leave an extremely oily mess when it drys out.
Thank you! After about the 3rd hole I had to really dig deep and ask myself “are you sure you want to do this? It’s not to late to back out”.😂 I am so glad I stuck it out.
Agree with previous comment regarding annular bit. Some other guy did the same thing like this. But all this stuff regarding how it looks….is approaching “mall ninja” type…….. To spend so much time on drilling uniform holes….and then going back in with a router….
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Yah, me neither! Carbide tipped. If I were just doing chamfers I think the hand held pneumatic chamfering tools would be a better choice. Can be readily found on Amazon
@@nubtoolsThere may be a market opportunity for you to sell the template as a kit, even if folks don’t do the same size table, many fewer holes in different sized tables. Also, COULD work to supplement other table types/layouts. Your results looks really fantastic!
This is why I come to UA-cam! To watch crazy insane OCD people do unbelievable things that I would never dream of doing!
This guy is amazing and inspiring!
Suddenly my weekend hack project 1. Doesn’t seem so difficult, and 2. Will probably be a little more accurate due to what I just learned.
All I can say is thank you!
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This press has worked like a charm for my projects ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxajoEbapTfqWaadnqb04h6U576yxXp-FE . I didn't even secure it to my table top, mainly due to the fact that I was using a 15 lbs drill vise. It's not flimsy at all as to what others have claimed it to be. Make sure the locking nuts and levers are secured and there won't be any issues with light pressure and patience. I was able to drill through aluminum, plastic, and steel (steel took a while) with no problems at all. Yeah it took a little longer than a regular drill press, but I don't have the space OR the money for one.The instruction manual was worthless, but luckily assembling the press was intuitive. However, the manual would be good for ordering replacement parts if needed. There is a nice breakdown of the parts that are included in the kit. Before ordering, make sure it is compatible with your unit, it is clearly stated what models the press is compatible with.This was an excellent purchase for $40!!
I started out pretty similar situation. However I have a 4x4 table and I got to the second row and I couldn't take it anymore. So that project turned into a better idea and 40,000 dollars (and and very unhappy wife) later I purchased a Tormach 1100Mx. After 3 weekends playing around and learning a few tricks I had made a few new friends on the internet help rooms. One of the guys I had met had a Haas and after he had been over a few times he was very helpful and took my 4x4 1inch plate and drilled out the plate for me. So even now today we toss each other a few projects, I love the community for metal working!
Right on!
So, this is where Fireball Tool came up with their drilling guide! Amazing video!
I think for a normal person like me the best would be to send it to be laser/water jet cut to the almost final measurement and just do the reaming by myself. That I think would save me a lot of hours.
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I think that could be a decent option, it does get pretty pricey for that many holes, especially as you go thicker.
Nice work and what a pleasure to see a skilled tradesman at work.
Never in a million years would I have guess you could use that router with standard carbide/wood bits. Looking forward to trying this on my next metal project. Great looking table. Lot of work.
Same here. I am thinking of all the past projects that it would have been useful on.
Thanks for watching!
I did not experiment on speed very much. My cordless Mikita goes to 5 and I had it on 4🤷🏻♂️
Since the bits I used were carbide tipped I could get away with higher speed but really I just don’t know if slower would have been better on tool life. The finish was excellent.
On depth of cut I went full depth right out of the gate. 1/16” 45deg chamfers on bottom, 1/8” radius on outside edge and 1/16” radius on top holes.
Tool life: Chamfer tool(Diablo from Home Depot) was the winner. Only used one. It did all 253 holes like a boss and started to show signs of wear at the end when doing the bottom outside edge.
It took two 1/8” radius bits to do the top outside edges. 1st bit did all the work and the second bit was a finisher that is still in great condition.
The 1/16” radius bit required 2 bit and it looks dang good but I will get one more before the project is completed for a final cleanup.
Thanks!
I will say, if I only wanted 45deg chamfers, I would consider strongly looking at the pneumatic chamfer hand tool that uses indexable carbide insert. You can find them on Amazon. I plan on getting one down the road. But on this project I was set on putting some radius corners, so the router was my choice for execution.
They are HSS like the drill bits!
Thanks for inspiring me to just buy a table 👍 😆
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I totally dig the effort, I too build as much as I can, that’s a table you would never part with, it’s personal. However, understanding the value in a bought table is apparent after seeing your effort. Good stuff!
Thanks!
Nice setup and taking the time.
If you want to save the time use a annular cutter. Had 245 holes done in 4 hrs thru 9/16
😂This seems to be the consensus. People seem to think time is important or something.
Thanks for watching!!
@@nubtools really want to save time? Design in CAD and have a laser cutter do it for you! It's cheaper than you'd think and it takes the guesswork out of it.... or buy one of the iron ones... they really aren't that bad!!
Beware!! You need a special annular cutter designed for stacked plates (in this particular situation), otherwise the slug+washer that the cutter creates in the first hole will prevent the teeth from biting into the second plate and you will need to remove this first slug to continue the cutting. The stacked plates cutters cut on the INSIDE instead of the OUTSIDE, so they create perfect cilindrical slugs, without the flat "hat". Other than that, yes, annular cutters is the way to go, moreover if you are RENTING THE MAG DRILL!
Yeah... as soon as I saw him pilot drill I heard the "oh no, oh no, oh no no no no no" song in my head! Great project nonetheless, but annular cutters will change your life!
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Reminds me of a project i did a few years back. Decided to put cove lighting on a set of 4 hexagonal structures being mounted 5inches below the ceiling. Used RGB led stips. Layed them in 1/2 inch C channel that was welded on top. Thought I was going to use quick connections. But they only come in 90 degree turns. Hexagonal is 120 degrees. This meant each strip required 5 wire's to be Sauder. In total just over 3,700 sauder connections were done. Took me 4 weekends. About 150 hrs in total.
Oh my. Nice work but holy cow, fixture this to a Mill! I known you might not have one, but holy cow!
Great idea with the Drill Jig! Nice 10EE in the background too!
Thanks!
I was also drooling over the EE
Wow! Even though you took the long way around, you were tenacious about getting there without cutting corners. people can always suggest easier ways to get a job done, but you might not have the equipment or even the budget to go the easier and or faster way. You got it done and I am sure it will serve you well. It also looks like you are just as tenacious about answering all the comments. Nice work.
Thanks Chuck!
Nice work pal. If I were you, I would put my Mark on it!
Thank you! I will do that for sure.
Excellent job on the patience to do the job the most precise way you could. I would think all the extra steps made up a lot for any irregularities in the plate you used and made the table much more precise Awesome.
Certainly makes you appreciate CNCs. Nice work!
For sure. Thank you!
Brutal dedication to perfection! Great work!
Thanks!
Hole E cow
Congratulations
What a great job...
It looks too nice to use.
Boy did you scare me every time you brushed off the metal chips without gloves
Thanks!
WOW, you are one determined dude!! KUDO'S brother.
Determined! I like that. Way better than thick skulled and stubborn!
Thanks for watching!!
You won yourself a new subscriber!!!... I absolutely admire your patience!!! Thanks for sharing your great project!!! I'm jealous since I don't have as much patience! Please create more extremely high quality videos like this!... I'm watching out for more videos from you! 👍👍👍👍👍🤝🖐️🍻
Thank you! Hope to be bringing on new videos soon.
Hey Mr. Nub....... that is one sick fixture plate........you da MAN!!!!!
I have no idea how I got here, but I am staying for sure.....best wishes
from Orlando, Florida, Paul
Thanks Paul!! I hope to continue delivering.
Dave
Nice work and project! I’ll take one.
Thanks!
I'll sub. Im doing my own mag drill fixture table. Not nearly as gigged as yours but the 5/8 annular cutter has as a precision fit as your reamed holes with no need to swap 4 bit sizes.
ThaT being said, yours still looks amazing
Nice!!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks!
Why would you not use an annular cutter ? They are far faster and far less wearing than twist drills .
Great question. First, I was dead set on having a reamed hole and holding a very tight tolerance, second the rental mag drills available were all set up with drill chucks. You are absolutely right that angular cutters are a lot faster. Maybe it would have been possible to achieve as good of a hole using the same drill jig set up with them🤷🏻♂️.
Surprisingly all my drills had no problem lasting just fine all the way to the end.
Thanks for the comment! -Dave
We’ll done! I’ve started a similar project. I’m using a 16mm taper shank drill bit mounted directly into the mag drill. I’m not using a pilot hole and it’s working out fine. So there’s no chuck or bushings involved.
Nice! Thanks for sharing your cat skinning method. Good luck to you.
-Dave
Appreciate a guy that is prepared to go "back to basics"!... Not everyone can afford the most advanced tools/cutters available!... Doing a fantastic job with limited tools ticks my boxes more than someone relying on a CNC MACHINE to perform the job while you're just watching (and drinking beer during) the process!!! I honestly appreciate and respect the effort of my new UA-cam creator!!!... Are there more effective ways of accomplishing the same result?... Most definitely!!!... Is it more satisfying to watch a CNC machine performing all the (same, automated) tasks autonomously?... Most definitely not!!!... If this exact same video was about a CNC machine creating this masterpiece, no one would have watched till the end!!!... (Would've been too boring!!!)
Hope to not disappoint but I am that CNC guy. More accurately an all of the above. My origins were in all the basics but I fully embrace the awesomeness of computer controlled tools. There is beauty in all of it.
Wow Excellent work beautiful bench
Thanks Arthur!
I had my fixture drilled at the metal supplier in aus.
1500x750x12mm plate, with CNC drilled holes it was $125aud ($80usd) for the plate material and drilling/plasma cut to size.
I machine a lot of tedious tasks but for the precision and 2 day turn around paying the money was worth it. I will definitely use that carbide router step on the edges of mine now
That sounds great!
Thanks for watching!
@@nubtools your workshop looks pretty setup so far. Do you use many shop carts? I use so many in/out carts at the mill and belt grinder
Ausfalia has a lot of iron so its dirtcheap wholesale and great quality. But we don't manufacture cromo or cold rolled much which sucks
It’s getting there. I have one main cart that use. That does stink about not having much cold rolled steel.
Hi, I'm in Aus, can you tell me where you got that done? That price is great.
@@stevewilson1004 I don't even know the name of the shop, they just sell plate steel and I ordered the largest size that fit in their mill.
Its down pt road in SA, I'd have to drive there or hunt on maps to find it. I regret not buying 4 of these fixture plates at once though
I bought a 2' x 3' fixture table that seemed just a hair too thin to hold stronghand clamps without them kicking sideways a bit. My solution was to do this template/drill method to an inch thick section of Aluminium plate that measured 1' x 2'. I used a wood CNC to layout 1/4" holes on centers of the grid pattern and used a center punch through the template to mark spots for a mag drill setup with an annular cutter. Now I have a nice block for holding and welding on.
Nice!!
You do nice work, the drill fixture is a work of art . I used to work with this older guy Danny and he did a lot of the lay out work on the flat sheets and he would always use long steel rules 36 inch 0r 48 inch or a folding ruler to lay out his work , I dont know if I ever saw him use a tape measure ... my point is he was spot on every time, and you remind me of Danny
Hey thanks man!
Very cool video, I need to drill more holes in my Welding table... Maybe I'll make a video but I dont think I will go this awesome
Thanks! Do it!
Would live to see video and tips for welding two plates together. Nothing on the youtube covering that. Lots of people probably think about doing it.
My tip would be don’t do it if at all avoidable.
Thanks for watching!
What I learned from you is that I should just save up and buy a fixture table 🤣🤣🤣 I don't have that level of patience 🤣
🤣 Glad I could help. 👊
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Dude!!! You did awesome!!!
Thanks!
I would like to give a small suggestion for the table top to keep it from rusting car wax works great
D8 sander would be good for the surface prep to remove mill scale. Though I’d probably start with sand blasting then use a D8 sander.
I’m doing something similar but with 1/2” plate and making an L shaped guide jig.
Annular cutters works so much better, but your fit using the reamer is very nice.
Cool. Sandblasting would have been way better or using vinegar soaked rags maybe.
DA sander to finish. Good luck on your project!
@@nubtools I really like your attention to detail. Still watching. Used mag drills a lot when I was a fabricator. Always looking for a used one, curious how much rental was? TY
I think it was in the neighborhood of $80/ day. The trick was renting it at the end of the business day on Friday, then not having to bring it back till Monday morning for the same price.
@@nubtools that’s good info. Just finished watching, subscribed and looking forward to your channel. The surface grinding really stepped up the overall finish. Blew me away with the router use, wouldn’t have dreamed the cutters would hold up to steel at that RPM. Well done.
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That is a lot of work, Impressive. When you get 1st dent going to be tough. 2nd one not so bad.
Exactly
@@nubtools Watched Fireball make a table to .003" across it. The Music wire trick to leveling was Simple and Impressive.
It is so amazing and fine detail for your public show that
Thank you!
I was wondering why you did not use annular cutters to make your holes. When I did mine I used
a 5/8 in annular cutter and I made a jig to center punch to mark a dipple for the center point tip
of the annular cutter. I just marked all the holes with the center punch then moved the mag drill
to each mark and drilled and it did not take much time at all. You did a fine job and it looks great.
What I do to keep the surface protected and clean to spray WD40 on it then wipe off with a towel
do this as often as you need. I also cover my table with a large welding blanket when not in use
at night etc. Good job there.
I was just set on doing in the way I would if I could have put it on my milling machine. Speed was of no concern. Hard headed.
I have been doing the same with WD-40.
Thanks for the tips and watching!
How accurate did the spacing turn out using this method?
Over the length of the table the pattern grew about 1/32”. Straightness and squareness over the entire table turned out amazing and that was my top concern. If I had started in the middle and went in opposite directions maybe I could have split growth in half.
Thanks for watching!!
@@nubtools sorry that question was about the centre punch method. I figured your way would be very precise. That’s a tolerance I could definitely live with but don’t have the patience to drill them the same way you did to be honest. Thanks for sharing learnt a few things 👍
The best way takes the most effort. Any one can center punch and mag drill and holes will be all over the place. Good job with drill fixture
I know exactly what you were going through with drilling your holes; I did the same with my welding table, 1" thick x 38" wide x 96" long!! About half way through I had to ask myself why am I doing this!!
😱dude! 😂Right on💪.
Thanks for watching!
What was your spacing?
Somehow your second comment disappeared, if that was on my end on accident sorry. Curious to what it said.
It disappeared again 🤷🏻♂️ 🧐
@@nubtools just sent you an email
Flip the clamps ding dong !!
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Good job
Just WOW! Perfect surface. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for watching!
that came out badass nice work!!
Thanks!!
The table looks great and I could see it was definitely a lot of work. As I watched I was wondering if you could get away with more widely spaced holes. There wouldn't be nearly as many to drill out and the table would get done with much less labor involved. It seems to me that holes about 6" apart would work fine (at least for the types of things I have done). Or, maybe a hybrid where you have a small portion of the table with close spacing and the other part wider spacing.
It would be a huge step up for my home shop to have a fab table but I don't think I could justify the cost of buying one. Building one like you've done is more along the lines of my budget.
I’m so glad I went with 2” spacing.
Como fue el proceso de pulido o rectificado de la placa ...
Great job that looks super clean. Awesome. Just awesome new subscriber.
Thank you!!
Over time you may not appreciate the tolerance you created in that setup. A small amount of heat and those pins may not come out easily. Table looks great, good process, and will be a good tool for future projects.
Only time will tell. I am getting what I asked for right or wrong 😆
Thanks for commenting and watching!
@@nubtools I did a very similar table last year and made the holes 0.630 instead of 0.625 (5/8"). My clamps use 5/8 standard fixtures and they are nice and tight still. Something to consider if you find your holes are too tight. You can just ream them out the extra 0.005
Cool, good to know, thanks for the tip! So far it’s been super great.
Great work mate.
Thanks Tony!
I like this idea.... maybe dual sided weld crap on one side flip it over and have a primo top for accuracy in set up
Your transformer welding table idea is very interesting! Like rotisserie style?
Thanks for watching!
Hats off to you my friend for sticking at at and getting it done 👍🏻
Very impressed with the drill jig idea snd the use of the router hadn’t seen that done before
Thanks Peter!
I subscribed to your Channel strictly because of this Video! I Love seeing other people who are as OCD as I am about doing something to the absolute Best of your ability, and budget.
Yes it may have taken a long time to finish it, but you know in your mind it was done correctly, not to mention that you gained a lot of experience along the way.
I Love the Drill Jig, and the Bushings, Excellent Idea!
I will be watching some more of your Videos today.
Thanks for taking us along for the ride, and keep up the Great Work!
What can I trade in my 5 Bonus Points for? since I made it to Super Star status all the way to end. LOL
Thanks Phillip! Congratulations on earning 5 bonus points! You may use them however and wherever they are accepted.😂
Thanks for watching!
@@nubtools 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awesome job man! Love it! I need to build one one of these days.
Thanks! Go for it!
Thanks for watching
Your doing an awesome job
Thanks!!
Amazing job!!!
Congratulations!
Thanks!
это фантастика!!! супер!
Thank you!
Nice table. Good job!
Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Drill halfway through the plate from the back side and plug welded to help keep the plate from the delaminating when you start welding you're putting a lot of heat into it
That would be an option for sure and I had considered that but for a few reason I chose not to. I didn’t show it in the video, but the two plates are pinched and welded together inside all 18 bolt holes and many other fixture holes have the seam fused together before I had the plate precision ground. This was not Ideal at all and quite terrible. I should have cut my losses and ordered a solid piece but at the time it was not in the budget. I don’t see the table getting that hot to cause issue and I plan on having risers made for many applications but we shall see, the bullet is down range now.🤷🏻♂️
Thanks so much for watching!
@@nubtools well make sure to release a video on it 6 months or a year down the road so we figure out how well it went
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Incredible dedication. First time viewer… excellent work!!
Thanks John!🙏
And I was complaining about 80 holes I had to drill on my MDF work table top !!!!!!😂😂😂😂 absolutely beautiful work sir. This has inspired me to build one just like this. Can I ask you how much you paid for the grinding of one side ? Again absolutely awesome !!!!👍
Thank you sir. I’m glad you liked it. I paid $100 to have the one side ground but that was a buddy deal. I later had the other side ground and the table frame for $150 at another shop. I also have recently used another source for the plate and grinding all in one shot. American Grinding in Chicago. That was the best value.
Thanks again!
Beautiful job. Would have liked to have seen 4 shoulder stops installed and checked for 90 end to end.
Thanks!
Man. That tables to nice to weld on now. Lol.
thank you very much
Nice job.
Thanks Steve!
Very nice work.
Thank you!
A rotary broach used in your mag drill would make it a one step drill process with chamfering the only additional step necessary. Good jig.
Cool. Thanks!
Way cool! I like the work flow. I have an old blemish fixture plate on my mill that I need to improve on. Your method looks like it could work! Keep up the good work
Thanks for watching!
Beautifully done! It turned out so nice it’s going to be hard to use it. Its going to get all scratched up and dirty.
Thanks! Oh I know😫 Like a new pair of shoes. I have already used it a couple of times even though the table isn’t made for it yet, and broke her in with a few scratches.
I would like to try this with an old table saw table. Trying to stay on a budget... I've designed a jig similar to yours, but it's designed to work around the features in the table saw table. But, would it be necessary to ream the holes if I were to use annular cutters?
Try some test pieces and see if you like the holes.
@@nubtools I will certainly do that. I really appreciate your idea for a build like this and the steps you took to maximize the precision.
I’d like to see how the clamps work in the holes, is there a video on them? What are they called?
Welding table clamps or fixture clamps got to strong hand tools
Good job very time consuming we build our tables on the plasma table then Reem them takes about 3 hours for a 3'x10' table
😂💪 Nice! Sounds great. Are you chasing the hole with drill , end mill or an actual reamer? Also, how thick is your material and how much are the holes undersized before reaming out of curiosity?
Thanks for watching!
@@nubtools depend on the customer specs I built a 2.5x4 on 5/8" plate and just reemed with a 16mm end mill on the old Cincinnati knee mill that is the max I can do on the mill thickest I've done is 1" but that was a fixture/weld table I cut that on the plasma and basically did what you did with a mag drill. I've done quite a few of those 1/4" hobby weld tables
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. The more in the world the better.
Nice job! Fine peace of art😎
Thank you!!
Are you happy with the radius on the holes on the top or would you have done the chamfer top and bottom if you did this again? The reason I ask, is that it seems like a chamfer would be easier to clean with a 45degree tool if you got some BB's stuck to it compared to a radius. Just curious as I am about to build mine!
For my tig only use it been just fine and I love the way it looks. But if I were to do it again I would do a chamfer. Specifically because I would use a carbide inserted chamfer air tool this time instead of a router. The radius bits get ate up fast.
Could you please share again what would be your recommended size for the plate?
5/8-3/4” imo
excellent guide ! I drill 16 mm holes thank you , what bits you recomend me to use with the routing
Carbide tipped seemed to work decent from the hardware store.
@@nubtoolshey bro I done test with my router and it works perfectly ! thank you
Nice!!👊
@@nubtools Hey again :) How to clean a welding table and keep it from rusting? do you have any idia ?
I apply WD-40 every so often
I can see the holes being dead nuts on centers but seems most folks just use this to top clamp and use secondary angle jigs and or devices to jig weldments so what is all the hole location precision about?
Straightness and squareness were also two other priorities for me.
Mamalona !!!! 👍👍👍
Thanks 🙏
@@nubtools i knew u gonna get it ! It’s super nice tho , how far apart you drill the holes
2” x 2”
Awesome job!
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Thanks!
Nice jobs friend 😍
Thanks!
Came across your video. Nice job! I'm a newbie who has that mag drill and looking to use annular cutters. Seems I'm going to need to get a new chuck to accept Weldon Shank cutters. If anyone on here can set me straight on what I need, I'd love to hear it. Of course, new subscriber 😁🤙
Thanks! You might check the manufactures website or eBay for the adapter.
sweet and painstaking where did you get the drill jig I'm currently building a table out of 1/2 and thinking about having it water jet to save time what do you think.
I made the jig. That would work.
Nice Job! Well done👌
Thanks!!
true craftsmanship. did you do the template yourself? Why not use hougen annular type cutters with wedon shank? Not precise enough?
Thanks you! Yah I made the jig. Hard headed machinist. An angular cutter would have worked great.
Oh wow, still under 1k subs?! Video production value was excellent! Stubbed!
Wow thanks a lot! I am fresh out of the gate, hopefully I’ll get there soon and continue to improve. Thanks!
Very nice work!
I am looking at doing the same thing and have a few questions.
Did you go with removable bushings over press fit to save money? I can see having to switch out the bushing between holes adding a lot of time.
Did you use bushings 3/4" long or less to create chip clearance?
Was there a reason you used a drill bit and reamer over a annual cutter?
Thank you for your time
Thanks! Cost and function drove my decision of which it’s been so long I don’t remember.😂
Sure amazing holes...
way to go that was alot of work looks amazing i a had to sub keep up the great work thanks for the videos
Thanks!!
What specific type or brand do you prefer as cutting fluid?
For this project I used a water based coolant from Milwaukee that I got from McMaster Carr, part # 31625A61 . It worked great and If I remember after being mixed with water you end up with one gallon of coolant. I’m sure other brands are just as good. I do prefer these water based coolants for this type of application cause they don’t leave an extremely oily mess when it drys out.
Nice work on your tabletop where did you get your stops at
Thanks, Fireball tool is where I purchased my work stops.
Really nice job! You have patience! I would of drilled 3 holes and scrapped the whole table..
Thank you! After about the 3rd hole I had to really dig deep and ask myself “are you sure you want to do this? It’s not to late to back out”.😂
I am so glad I stuck it out.
Good job!
Thanks!!
Great job mate a lot of hard work but you have saved heaps if you had someone else do it for you love your channel 👍👍👍
And miss out on all this fun? Nah😂
You are probably right though, if you calculate the cost of my time. Thanks so much for watching!
Tough work，well done！
Thanks! Tough for sure but very rewarding in the end. Thanks for watching!
Agree with previous comment regarding annular bit. Some other guy did the same thing like this. But all this stuff regarding how it looks….is approaching “mall ninja” type…….. To spend so much time on drilling uniform holes….and then going back in with a router….
Did you use a wooden router bit to do that ??? It worked on steel ?
Yes. It was carbide tipped too.
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So you used wood routing bits to chamfer the edge of your steel plate? I had no idea those bits would work on metal. Was there a specific kind of bit?
Yah, me neither!
Carbide tipped. If I were just doing chamfers I think the hand held pneumatic chamfering tools would be a better choice. Can be readily found on Amazon
How did you chose the hole size, we want to build a table and wonder what hole to go with.
I went with 5/8” because it seemed to be the most common with crap tons of tooling on the market for that size.
Thanks for watching!
@@nubtools thx we are looking for pins and for what reamer to buy,
You’re welcome and good luck! These table are a dream to work on and completely worth the effort and cost.
Did i see right that you tig welded without a gaslens at the beginning? Never thoght of trying that:)
Nice job on the table!
Always with gas
After watching this video I'm sure I won't be attempting this.
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What did they charge to surface grind your top
Under $200
Did you make your template or purchase it? If you purchased where did you buy it?
I made it.
@@nubtoolsThere may be a market opportunity for you to sell the template as a kit, even if folks don’t do the same size table, many fewer holes in different sized tables. Also, COULD work to supplement other table types/layouts. Your results looks really fantastic!