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So the banning alcohol thing. I don't know if it's the police who make this call or shops, but when I worked in a Spar shop, they had a book of people who are banned from purchasing alcohol.
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Just jumping in to say that here in the US (MD anyway), if you get in enough alcohol related trouble, they'll require you to get an alcohol restriction put onto your license/ID for a set amount of time. I can't remember if it's an entire red box around your photo or just big red letters on the front, but whichever way, it's very noticeable. I was young and stupid once...
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If they're old enough to torture a woman to death over 9 hours, they're old enough to have their identities exposed. Period. Thank god the age of criminal responsibility is 10 in the UK.
Couldn’t agree more, will never understand that. At 13/14 I knew that beating and killing someone was very wrong.
Yeah when I was 13 I was literally watching anime and fawning over boy bands. I never thought abt hurting someone like that 😕
I dont even understand how they could do this even if you are depressed i was also depressed at the same age and i for one was sexually abused when i was little so i was going through severe depression i had no friends and didn't get along with my family either still i would never kill someone let alone torture humiliate and kill them
Sadly, it's too easy on criminals here. A life sentence is 7 years on good behaviour (then street cred from whatever stupid gang they're in when they get out) and if you do something so bad that you risk being the target of vigilantes, they just give you a new name, identity and free money for the rest of your life.
Literally exactly what I said
One of my old neighbours was an alcoholic and one day he bought the cutest staffy pup home, fair game to the bloke cause he stopped drinking and cared for this dog like it was his child. He took it for walks every day and fed it well, he looked so much happier and healthier because of this dog! I used to give him my son's old stuffed toys to play with (the dog not the man 😂)
this is the kind of uplifting comment I needed to read after that story! there is something so wholesome about someone getting their life together for a child or a pet.
this is the kind of purpose people who struggle with addiction need.
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@@kathleenuclear I agree. Realizing that little animal or child is totally reliant on you for a good life and making sure they get that good life says alot about the person. Perhaps the puppy gave him the love and companionship he was looking for, and who doesn't love a sweet lil pup!
Awe what a great story
Childhood stupidity is a defense applicable to when me and my friend thought we could use tube lights as makeshift lightsabers, not realising they would explode and spread dust and glass everywhere at the smallest touch, not when it’s a case of intentional torture and murder of a person.
Omg me and a friend ALSO tried to use tube lights as light sabers once haha! All that exploded fine thin glass everywhere! What a mess! But yeah, that was definitely childhood stupidity, not brutally murdering someone.
This makes me think of, boys being boys doesn't mean justifying assault, it's when they make a water slid with chocolate sauce
@@samshaffer2250 Exactly!
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@@samshaffer2250 yeah I was harassed but the school did nothing! It’s still happening
The most heartbreaking aspect of this case is that Angela didn’t seek help when the girls left. She knew she was all alone and her friends weren’t really her friends. It also breaks my heart that she heard her friend say “I don’t care” and leave. It makes me think those women were taking as much advantage of her as the children. My heart aches for her.
It’s so messed up that the good hearted people are always taken advantage of and treated like crap😡
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If they can plaster them pictures on Snapchat with their names for everyone to see without any emotion, they can have their names plastered to the public for their safety. I really don’t think childhood issues influence things like this, I truly believe people are born evil.
Amen!! And if you're grown enough to take a life you are grown enough for the world to know who you are!
Their Snapchat was most likely not their real name
If your local to Hartlepool you know who it was. I’m from Hartlepool and most of us already knew who the two girls were. The older ones foster mum was my p.e teacher
I absolutely agree. NZ is the same. Name suppression first, then release or non release of name. Sucks. Not fair.
You'd rather believe in instant "evil" rather than mitigating factors, identifying markers or behavioural analysis?
"We didn't intend to kill her" Even if that was true, which it clearly isn't, do they just think attacking someone is okay even if it's not intended to kill? Such a strange defense
Ikr?? But you did want to harm her.
The "I didn't mean to do it" defense is an attempt to reduce the charges and lessen the sentence. It's the difference between murder and manslaughter. This defense almost always falls apart because more often than not, they cannot prove that they didn't know the comsequemces of their actions.
I don't think they thought about it. I just think they kept going using her as a punchbag and enjoying it.
@@marleymorningstar3671 And there is a big difference between 1st degree murder and 2nd degree murder. And cops are always going to charge u with the highest the can so then they can fight to lower it
@@duchessofhazjack4878 It's like saying I smashed her/his head against a rock and they lost conscience but I did not think anything of it so I kept going....ummmmmm ok but u "didn't mean to do it" please Lord
I don’t agree with the anonymity. If you commit an adult crime, you should get adult consequences including being named and shamed.
The judge/the crown said that anonymity was about protection of the families. In that case, and ONLY in that case, I could agree. BUT NOT IN THIS CASE!! The foster family turned the one DEVIL CHILD IN. The OTHER had no FAMILY!
I'm literally crying.... This is so horrible. These teens were so cruel and this this woman died so slowly and whats the saddest thing in my opinion are the humans that saw her trashed home and didn't even bother to call 911 or make sure the woman is well.... They simply didn't care... This world is so damn cruel... Wow. May Angela rest in peace wherever she is ❤️
I agree, it's a horrific crime and her "friends" are guilty as well. They absolutely should have atleast looked in to make sure she was OK but nah, they just couldn't be bothered. It's chilling to think about just how heartless the people in this woman's life were. Absolutely disgusting exises for human beings with zero empathy or even dignity and thats all I have to say about them! Poor Angela, I hope she's happy and no longer lonely where ever she may be.. ❤🖤
I know it's terrible. I wonder how they felt when they realized what had happened to her. Probably nothing 😭
Absolutely , this is so horrible and so sad. It makes me so angry and upset. Parents that r horrible cause so much awfulness in the world because the children they abuse end up abusive and sick and twisted. Not every child that's abuses turns out that way but so many evil people were abuses as children. I wish someone had given Angela a dog to give her some happiness. I know that wouldn't have saved her but it could have made her happy and maybe she would not have been around these evil Girls.
I don't care how old they r , they should be locked up for a very very long time r forever. I don't think any amount of therapy could put empathy r compassion in these girls heart.
@@aleisaetheridge8682 I agree with you, it's such a cruel and drawn kjt crime they should absolutely never be release. I feel like it would very likely happen again .
They are straight up sociopaths and should never be allowed outside of prison. They will never change. Absolutely sick what they did and I feel so bad for Angela. She went through similar up bringing as them but went to the other end of the spectrum. She was over giving and didnt love herself. These girls deserve to never be free
They're not sociopaths, they were psychopaths (where violence is included )...There are no words to describe the tragedy which happened to Angela and the disgusting actions committed by the girls
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if there’s an afterlife, i hope it’s full of dogs and puppies to give angela the companionship and love she so deserved. rip angela, you’re remembered and loved♥️
i LOVE this comment, she definitely deserves all the love
Poor Angela :(
The story about her buying chocolate bars for the local kids was so sweet. Those girls are evil, straight up.
they should have been abortions, im just saying in my opinion this is unfortunate that the "mom's" gave birth
Honestly, I think Angela wasn't just lonely. I think she was giving children chocolate and alcohol to groom children for molestation. I mean, if a man was randomly giving candy to small children, and alcohol to young teenagers, people would find it suspicious.
I think the two girls were tired of people neglecting and exploiting them, sensed what Angela's motives were, and decided that since she treated them, they would take out all their rage from the way the were treated on her. I think that's why they stripped Angela naked too.
These girls did something horrible, and have no empathy. But, I think there is more to this story we don't know. I don't think it's so cut and dry that these bad girls attacked her for no reason. I really think shr was grooming children for nefarious reason.
@@chantemoody8416interesting actually
@@chantemoody8416they killed her for 9 hours. they were covered in blood and were posting about it on social media. if the case to be they were tired of getting exploited, they would not do what they did. i truly believe that people can be born bad, angela was an alcoholic who just wanted some friends u can tell by the way they called the police they did this for their own pure enjoyment
@@chantemoody8416 You can never truly say with these cases but there's no evidence to suggest that she did that. Her neighbours all testified that she was vulnerable and didn't appear to have ill intentions.
To me, it really does just seem that she was so desperate for company and buying alcohol for kids got them to like her - obviously adults can buy their own alcohol so they don't need to come round and be nice to her.
There are cases where teenagers lack empathy with vulnerable individuals because they look and act different and I think that was sadly the case here. The girls didn't see her as a person, just as a way of getting what they wanted, which unfortunately on that day, was a way to let out their anger, a punching bag.
Also I think the clothes being removed was probably a result of her being thrown around and dragged by her clothes and potentially even her struggling but obviously I can't say what their motives were if it as intentional.
I'm not justifying what they did, just providing another possible explanation.
This one is so hard to watch. The photo of her bruised, just standing there scared with her abusers is one of the saddest things I've ever seen.
That pic got me 😣. That is just terrifying.
she looks scared to death. i think she knew they would kill her
I agree not many of these cases get to me but this one..... Made me sad and angry! Poor Angela was failed by everyone.
This is why we need to break the mindset that all alcoholics are horrible people. Angela seems like such a sweet person who was just desperate for friends and company. When I heard that she brought chocolate bars for the kids on the street my heart melted because she seemed so caring for other people. May she rest in peace
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listening to them calling the dispatch to demand beeing picked up, laughing stupidly, filled me with so much rage. these girls sounded exactly like the ones who used to bully me at school. you cannot tell me that they didn't know the consequences of their actions; they do, they just don't give a rats arse about it. they're less than human, they shouldn't have the luxury of beeing treated as such, much less having their identity protected.
Poor Angie. She is free now. To hell with protecting their identity though. I certainly knew what I was doing at 13.
started crying talking about how angela loved dogs, especially that one. i'm not an addict of anything but i was in a really tough space mentally with suicidal ideation, and my mom got me a puppy. haven't thought that way since.
a dog or cat can save your life. they give you responsibility, love, something to live and care for. they love you just as much as you love them, if not more. unconditionally. sometimes that's all people need.
My cat saved my life, one my uncle passed away I was completely lost and thought I had nothing to live for. He was my bestfriend and I was devastated. My cat Moody Blue, stayed with me 24/7, and it it weren’t for that little fur ball I do not believe I would be here tpday
@@paperplate9580 That's just lovely. Im oldei than you I've had alot of sxxt in my life ,and family are ..My cat Effie lived for 25 yrs.He was a constant in my life,and gave me unconditional love. I had to have him euthanized 10 days ago, and I'm still broken hearted. Hed even sleep with his head on my pillow facing me,and when his arthritis got bad,I'd help him flip his hips over. He was more like a dog than cat. Animals do save lives Because of their unconditional love, and they don't judge you,they just love you. Blessings from S.A.
@@Willowq4 I'm so sorry for your loss 😢 losing an animal, especially one you've had for so long is so hard. My dog is 19, almost 20, so he's getting there. He's actually my partner's dog from childhood (they even had his mom, so my partner was there when our dog was born!) We've been together nearly 6 and a half years and we were friends for years before that, so I definitely feel like this dog is my dog too at this point.
Anyways, sorry for the rambling. It's so hard to lose an animal, and I just know that it's coming up sooner than we would like with our baby. He has inspired us to look into adopting senior dogs in the future though! There are so many senior dogs/cats in shelters, and they're unfortunately often the first to get put down, as fewer people want to adopt an older animal. But they need love and give love just the same as their younger counterparts!
I have 4 rescue dogs and a cat. Last time I attempted something and survived, the only thing I felt was guilt of doing something like that to them. They saved me in so many ways, much more than I could ever do for them.
My 2 cats saved me 2 years ago not to do any stupid! I was in a very dark place but I started to think that no one would take care of them on the same way like I do and I just can’t let them down!
I hate that they cannot be named because of their age - James Bulger's killers were names at 10, I assumed that would have changed the laws so that every child who kills would be named.
It’s because of James bulger killers that they don’t release names.
@@cececill3160 Well i think they were right to release their names. The killer of James Bulger tortured him. He was only a toddler, left him on the railroads and let his body get cut in half, which when i search James Bulgers name i accidentally saw the crime scene photo of half his body and it traumatized me. I can't stand to see any dead body, And all i saw was his little legs. It's fucking terrible. Even at age 10 they should have got the death penalty.
I never said they shouldn’t of released the names. I said because they released the bulger killers names they don’t tend to release other underage killers names. It’s all Because the bulger case was so high profile and the defence lawyers can claim it’s an unfair trial (just like the bulger killers, they got their sentences reduced). So now the courts wait until after the trial and decide wether or not to name them. James case is disturbing and disgusting, It affected the entire nation. I remember my mum being extra cautious with me as a child after, as I was born the same year and 2 days apart from James. The 2 boys who killed him never paid for what they did. They should of been given a death sentence.
I guarantee if Jamie Bulgers killers were revealed they'd be dead within a week that's the only reason they are keeping them safe
@@GuessMyName234 ngl, i wouldn't mind that. Too bad cruel and unusual punishment is illegal.
I’ve never been so disgusted and angered by a case
I hope the two monsters never leave prison and know nothing other than misery and pain for the rest of their disgusting lives
I'm with you on this... hopefully their time in jail is agonizing & they both find a way to end their lives or someone else does it for them...
I don‘t know why this story out of all stories on your channel really made me cry. Angela was already punished with so many problems and it’s so, so sad this happened just because the only thing she wanted was a bit of company. Rest in Peace Angela 😢♥️
The way you described how Angela felt a sense of purpose taking care of animal kind hit home to me really hard. I don't have much purpose in my day-to-day life and I kept trying to explain to the people around me why I so badly wanted a pet and could never formulate the words to describe it and THAT description hit right on what I was trying to do. I feel lonely, I feel like I have no purpose in this world, I want something that brings just a tiny bit of structure and purpose into my life in the form of a pet.
I do hope you’re doing well. You have purpose and value. Just by being here. I promise you that. You have worth. I sometimes find butterflies and moths in my yard whose wings are all wet and crumpled. I pick them up and spend an absurd amount of time carefully fixing their wings so they’re back to normal and they fly off. I tend to look at those moments through the eyes of people around me - why am I wasting time like this? It’s just a bug. I’m not getting anything productive done…recently I’ve been telling myself something different…a slight modification from dr suess: “a creature has value no matter how small” - maybe my helping this one being wont change the world…but it likely means the world to that creature. Everything we come into contact with, we leave a mark. Most times we don’t even know we’ve done it. You change the world every day by moving through it - every act echos out. We hold a door for someone, or pick something up for someone, or help an earthworm get off the sidewalk on a rainy day - those things make a difference on the people and beings around us. Maybe even indirectly - maybe someone sees you grab a piece of garbage off the ground and throw it in the bin and they think, “wow. that was really good of them…” and it influences them to do the same later down the road. You matter.
Also - I got Guinea pigs when I was depressed for exactly the reason of wanting to feel like I had something to live for. They’re quite a bit of work and there’s a lot to know ahead of time to care for them properly…..but I HIGHLY recommend them. You have to get them in pairs at the very least - they’re extremely social beings. It can be a lot but they’re the best pets in the world - they love to socialize and once they know and trust you will give you kisses and snuggle and they talk, talk, talk (see why I like them? Lol). They’re seriously awesome. I highly recommend them - hands down the best pets. Just make sure, if you go that route, to do the research - they have very specific nutritional needs. I had three boys in the past - bad bad bad idea. I have four boys now…in three separate enclosures lol never had girls but I hear they’re easier lol
Anyways I truly hope you’re well ❤😊
considering the girls had blood on them when they met up with a friend and were still wearing it when they were picked up- how could the police miss it?
I am wondering that too. Wtf
i wouldnt assume anything, theres information that was definitely kept private in this case and the situation you just described couldve been one of those cases where some info was kept a secret
I thought that too! Like wtf? Two girls are getting in your POLICE CAR and you don't notice that they have blood all over them?! Even their friends noticed it!
So we're they in bloody clothes when cops got them? Cause it was enough a mate noticed and a mom noticed...
Maybe their coats hid the blood!!
I’m from Hartlepool and have passed Angela several times. As alcoholics are, she was sometimes a nuisance. But a harmless nuisance and NEVER nasty. I know of these girls as my daughters friend, knows the girls/families. I was also told that Angela was half naked because the girls had picked gravel up from the road and along wit other debris. Put it in a place a don’t even want to say.
My mind boggles as to how evil those girls are.
They are both as much to blame as the other, because at some time, seeing poor Angela cowering should have triggered one of them to realise what they ere doing is depraved. But not once did a conscience click in. They just egged each other on.
So it’s my opinion that once at the age of 18. I believe anyone who has committed a crime with such depravity. They should be named. They’re not kids then. And maybe if that came into law. Young kids who do such horrible things to another human being will know that their crimes will not get swept under the carpet. That one day they will be held accountable. I also believe that’s why so many people commit crime. Because they know our judicial system is an absolute joke.
Thanks for the video Daniel. At least it will keep Angela’s name about for years to come . And will hopefully wake some parents up as to what their kids could get up to if they allow them to drink and run the streets when they should be home…X
Interesting that you know of them, I wonder if the papers are legally bound to keep them anonymous because I'm sure plenty of local residents would go to the papers with names. Social media is a wonderful thing at times, I'm sure if someone did some digging they'd find their details.
I’m curious as to what would happen if somebody who knew them released their names. Is it illegal? I hope that they are named by someone and they face the consequences when they are released from prison.
as soon as she said hartlepool i was like wait what, as someone from billingham i’ve never hurd if this case which is strange as it’s literally down the road but this case is so heart breaking
This case is so sickening! Angela may have had her burdens like we all do, but she seemed like such a sweet person, I’d love to be her loving and caring friend. Rest in paradise angela!
My heart breaks for Angela. I’ve met a few people that remind me of her… very kind hearted people who do not know how to cope with all their pain inside but who are also desperate for companionship. Bless her sweet soul. I wish she could’ve known more kindness in her life. I’m so very sorry Angela
One of my cousins was an alcoholic, and if she didn’t stop drinking soon it would be over. We tried everything but none of it was working. So the last thing we could think of would be to get her a dog. Just 2 days after we brought up the topic we were looking for a dog. We decided on a chocolate lab puppy. My cousin said ‘I will take care of this dog to the best of my ability’ she ended up stopping drinking cold turkey just a week later. That dog saved her beautiful soul. we could never be more thankful for that pup
I am ver happy that your cousin is safe. Caring for an animal can really give hope and perspective to see good in the world.
Please if anybody suffers from alcoholism do not go cold turkey. It is actually not like some other drugs. Going cold turkey on alcoholism can kill you. Please seek help and support in that case.
@@sonnenblume6474 yes!!! So many people don't know this. Alcohol withdrawal is one of the only withdrawals that can kill you. (I think benzo withdrawal can also kill you). Withdrawal is never fun, and there are some you can go cold turkey (not easily) where it won't kill you, like opiates for example.
But yes, I agree. If anyone is a true alcoholic, seek medical help to help with a safe detox. How awful would it be to try and make the right decision to give up drinking and then die because of that? That's what happened to the guy who played Lafayette on True Blood (if you've ever watched the show, you'll know he was the best character on the entire cast) - tried to give it up cold turkey and sadly passed away 😢
@@doperagu8471 I know you wrote this months ago but I loved Lafayette on the show! You’re right he WAS the best part of the show. That’s so sad he passed away I didn’t know that. Yeah detoxing properly from alcoholism is so important.
@@doperagu8471 I was just thinking about true blood I use to love that I wonder where I could watch it now
This case reminds me of the one where that girl that had disabilities was beaten tortured by those 5 scumbags where they took advantage of her as well... So sad I can't believe humans ( in these situations these ppl are not human ) do things like this!!
I love the colors of your eyeshadows this week! Beautiful colors!
That poor woman was tortured for so long. There's something extra sick about people who would torture someone like that and seemed to enjoy every minute of it. I can't imagine being foster parents to someone so twisted! Or the fact that they found her clothes with blood all over them! I'm glad the called LE!
Before getting to the main story I just wanna say, they definitely shoulda either kept Angela in the institution or monitored her and gave her some company. Like that’s literally all she needed, structure and companionship
“Therapy Dogs” are quite common in the US…. But the person has to prove able to care for it. If not then therapy dogs will visit people in hospitals, nursing homes and I believe even at their homes for like several afternoons a week under supervision. Incredibly beneficial.
The drawing of the girl stabbing the other person looks eerily like Angela as the victim (short hair) and the girl is probably themselves. This makes me think that this was premeditated
I thought this also
I used to work as a mental health worker with the homeless, with dual diagnoses (in the UK). You are quite right about dogs- they can literally save people's lives. The connection some homeless people/ people with substance misuse, have with dogs is incredible. The problem is, very few homeless hostels take dogs - so people either have to give them up or stay on the streets. Its heartbreaking
I live in ths us i am a recovering alcoholic and addict. I have cats ans got them to love and to love me and one has become my emotional aupport animal and they have literally got me through some tough times. Theu truly ars my children and eaae my anxiety. I also have borderline personality disorder which is no joke and they help to stabilize my moods. Id sleep under a bridge befofe id give them up
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My friend was homeless and a traveler ten years. She adopted a puppy and had him that whole time. Hes even trained to climb up on her back and backpack when she gets on a train!. She was addicted to opiates and stayed sick three days so everything she earned panhandling could go to taking him to the vet for shots and to be neutered, which she got done for like $300 which is so much when you don't even have food. She always has a 5 pound bag of food in her backpack and he's such a sweet happy dog who loved all the exercise and seeing new places (he's a black lab and pitbull mix looks like a medium sized black lab) and is really the best taken care of and loved dog I've ever seen.
I understand that homeless shelters and such don't accept animals however what I don't understand is why this woman couldn't get one?
In the u.k. can you not just get one if you want one or do you have to get approval or something? If she loved animals so much and it helped her I just don't understand why she just didn't get herself one? Is my question. I understand if maybe it was rules of her housing or something but if she could pet sit I don't see why she couldn't have her own?
This case is just so heartbreaking 💔 I really feel Angela was failed early on and almost just left to it.
I can’t say much. I’m terribly broken for Angela. I hope she is happy now with her boyfriend and resting as beautifully as she loved. She deserved so much more. RIP
They just killed someone. Why are their identities being kept secret?! They decided to do an adult act. They should be treated like adults!!!!
In the U.S. you can get a service dog for just about any physical/mental health problems. They even have programs for prisoners to help train them , and it makes a huge difference for the prisoners. It gives the a sense of purpose. They're allowed to enter just about anywhere a person is. Even airplanes
danielle: *apologizes for the lack of pictures
me who listens while jogging👁👄👁
Same
of course every case is very sad but this one especially broke my heart,had there been proper people around Angela like her boyfriend I think she would have put her life back on the tracks.A kind soul was lost because of a bunch of heartless teenagers
This story has made me weep. I have been in situations similar, where I have been taken advantage of, and it's frightening to see the possible result. This was a very thoughtful, and respectful episode. Thank you.
Please take care of yourself, you are worthy and enough EXACTLY the way you are. There are plenty of kind, decent people out there who will appreciate you and reciprocate, but not everyone. When they give you signs that they don't care about YOU, please leave. They always show you who they are, believe them and walk away. What you have is precious, don't waste it on those who lack the capacity to appreciate it! Give it to those worthy of who you are, it gets lonely sometimes but you are enough and worthy of true friendship. Never settle for sub-par, ever! Hopefully this didn't sound weird, I was moved by your comment and know what it feels like, accept and forgive yourself, remember who you were as a child and realise that that child is still YOU. Protect and love it and everything else will fall into place, I promise. You are enough, brother. 🙂
Im crying, in the footage she brought chocolate for the kids too
danielle: ‘they were so close, partners in crime’
me: yeah literally
My theory is that the excessive alcohol and drug use severely damaged their developing brains to the point where they feel no remorse. I can only imagine the amount of self loathing they must have had, especially when their own mothers were so cruel and heartless towards them. I believe they killed Angela because they saw themselves in her and they hated themselves so much. Seems like they had been suicidal in the past, or at least one of them has been, but maybe because of opportunity this was a way of them trying to kill the things they hated about themselves that they saw represented in Angela.
No they only open the doors at they truly self. I at 13 sas cause mom dad suicided with heroin a heroin adict for 15years at 26 i died lost a leg barely 9 surgery intervention and i cam E back after 8 min from death i stopped ok ptsd came to surface see my shitty life from swim in the ocean to sleep in street plus i dies mom age and dear Now clean i m like a was one with a hard sense of justice who see too much and long so no it always is like when you day wasthe serpent s fault nomen choose evil
@@lilithlevi9534 I don’t understand??
I think both those girls are just the worst, not in a cool way.
I hope they get their sh# messed up in jail.
15 years isn't enough, just reveal their identities... I do not care about their mental health.
@@wtichery but people not caring about mental health is one of the reason cases like this happen in the first place …
@@kijinsuii7192 no I meant after their actions that were murder, but your point is lost in the fact not everyone with mental health issues treated or untreated is more prone to homicide just these hoes
I had a beyond traumatic childhood, teen years and in to my adult years. Never once, while drunk or doing drugs, did I ever consider hurting a single person. I survived and chose my life to never repeat my experiences. I feel no pity for them. They never should be free. They will always be a danger to society.
I lived in the house behind Angela's in suggitt st. Ange was definetly a lost soul, bless her. I felt sorry for her. The kids where always outside hers when i walked past. RIP ange xxx
Hi , Sorry but u said u saw these teens outside of her house,So what stopped u from calling the COPS,or Why didn’t u intervene & call 999 ???????
@@mrsinkzn you know they could be referring to the kids that got chocolate bars from her right?
This is such a sad case.
Those girls doesn’t deserve privacy to be honest. They did such a awful crime.
Rest In Peace Angela
I want to Thank You, Danielle, for the Emotions you show, when telling the Heartbreaking stories, of Innocent Victims, and understanding, not condoning the Criminal behavior! Just Devastating! Praying for Angela!💔💔💔💔 I Pray the 2 girls accept Responsibility! They are Very Scary, to me! No Emotions, No Remorse!
They probably had been planning to attack someone for the longest. The rejection from their mothers fueled their anger and the liquor gave them courage. Such a sad case rip to Angela
It's taken me this long to watch this, I don't even think I can finish it to be honest. I remember Angela from being a youngster, I was scared because of her reputation. It just shows that you can never judge a book by its cover. So sad and disturbing that a person can be treated this way . So sorry for what happened to you Angela xx
I was in labor for 9 hours. That’s a very long time to be in pain and suffering. I can’t even imagine.
I think they took out their anger from their incidents with their mothers that day.
Side note: I respect anyone who can talk while simultaneously doing their lipliner.
'emotional support animals' are a legit thing, but you have to go about getting one on your own and go out of your way to get them certified as such. My kitty cat is an ESA
Thanks for posting- same here with my small dog. She was prescribed by psychiatrist for stress panic disorder and CHANGED MY LIFE. An ESA made it possible for me to live without heavy stress medication and have a life again❤️
My puppy was an ESA when I first got him, but now he is a fully trained service dog. I think what Danielle means is a government program bcuz sometimes caring for a dog can be expensive
@@hadesisbaby yeah I see what you’re saying. I really think there should be some sort of program that provides that kind of service. Animals are so healing but the people who need that healing don’t always have the capacity to fully care for them 😔whether it be financially, physically, or mentally. But if they were able to have some kind of consistent at home interaction it would life changing.
I even think it’s kinda bs that my food stamps don’t cover cat food
@@monaw6484 that’s amazing ❤️ I’m a cancer survivor with chronic pain and PTSD and one of my pain management drs has even thought me a therapy exercise to go inside my mind and focus on being with her/the way her fur smells etc when my pain gets really bad or I start to have panic attacks etc if I’m not home and even that has been so helpful
Fostering dogs is also a thing, you can care for shelter dogs til they find a forever home, I think she'd have loved that
As a person who been abused by a parent I understand how easy it can be to turn to drugs and alcohol (talking about my experience). It’s sad that often there is no support for such kids. Luckily, I am in better place since my early 20’s, but I know quite a few people who never made it through teen years. Such a cruel world.
I can relate. I started using drugs & alcohol at 12 due to the abuse I suffered at my alcoholic fathers hands. I also got sober in my mid 20’s & am still sober today at 61!!
It’s absolutely devastating to see where those choices could have led me, & it’s heartbreaking to see where it leads some like these 2 girls. 🥺
I'm rlly happy that ur ok. Be safe and take care of yourself💖🌸
@@carolgannon2307 Happy to hear you are doing great!
It drives me crazy how other countries protect criminals just because they're underage and they go so far out of their way after they serve time to give them new identities and things like that. It's insane.
The US also protects juveniles unless they are charged as an adult.
I feel so bad for Angelina, she deserves so much better, she deserves the world
I fully understand the loneliness of being alone this breaks my heart
Angela seems like the kind of person I would have stopped and talked with on my paper route. She seems like she was a lovely lady that I would have charished being friends with.
Same here
I feel like these teenagers are not redeemable anymore. I don't feel sorry for them and honestly, I think they are a lost cause and I hope they never get out of jail.
My country also has this stupid rule. Juveniles can be punished for their crime (not matter how grave) only by sending them to juvenile homes, kept there only till they are 18th and their identities cannot be revealed ...grrrr
This makes me so angry. My heart hurts for Angela. Those two girls had a rough upbringing, but that doesn’t give them the right to do what they did. They knew what they were doing. Their names should be released, for the public’s safety. Those two girls got off easy compared to what they did to Angela. This makes me so sad. I’m crying right now thinking of what all Angela endured that night.
As a fourteen year old girl, I can't believe these girls did this. It's baffling how different people can be. My friends and I are frankly afraid of alcohol, we have great grades, and we don't cause havoc. But these girls were clearly on the opposite end of the spectrum and it's heartbreaking.
These girls were traumatised. They've clearly had an awful childhood . No parents to care for them . Its not an excuse but it means something
@@bleedinketchup right. Not an excuse; just an explanation.
Please stay on the path you're on. As you get a little older peer pressure increases
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@@bleedinketchup And then there’s us who’ve actually had a rough childhood and came out better for it. There is no excuse for their actions.
It's so much worse to slowly torture someone. It's another level of evil, regardless of their age.
Lots of people are addicts & have tough childhoods & don’t go around torturing and killing people. Some people are just truly evil.
For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Love from Korea 🇰🇷💕
Angel’s drinking “buddies” disappointed me…. I don’t understand how someone could open the door to someone’s house, see it’s in complete chaos like it was and not worry… not only just for your friend but any human being… if they had any empathy, the could’ve potentially saved a life…
This case breaks my heart. The worst monsters in the world aren't ghosts or demons or things that go bump in the night.. they are humans with no compassion or empathy like these
This one made me tear up. I had to pause it multiple times to get through it. I’m a former foster child. I spent a decade in the system. This one hits very close to home. After listening to that 911 call, I got chills. They remind me a lot of some of the other foster children I grew up with, especially their giggling…
I found a lot myself In Angela. I was an alcoholic for many years & slowly but surely hit rock bottom & sounded myself with leeches. I used to drink cheap cider. My flat became a hotspot for people to come & drink. Strangers would climb through my bedroom window because It was broke. I used to pass out on the sofa & would wake up to like 15 people In my bedroom blasting music. So many times I nearly got kicked out of flat by the council. I would spend all my money on drink thinking they liked me. I ended up In some pretty scary situations. I finally came to senses & I’m now 5 years sober. I cut off EVERYONE off & made them well aware that I’m no longer the one to be messed me. My heart breaks for that poor lady. She was so vulnerable 😭 There’s definitely not enough help out there
Hearing that Angela just wanted company and it obviously would have helped so much is heartbreaking but then to add on that people took advantage then KILLED her in her own home ugh this one is so upsetting
Dexter seems more and more justifiable each day
Dexter and death note
So true
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In the states, the sort of canine arrangement you mentioned is possible. It is called and "emotional support animal"and the mental health benefits of pets are widely recognized. 💜
I’ve heard some really terrible cases, but this one is definitely in the top 5. Wow, this is heartbreaking. Rest In Peace, Angela.❤️
They recognised their future selves in Angela and took the contempt for themselves, out on her. And they ban weed and tobacco yet alcohol is still acceptable and not considered the greatest destroyer of lives, families and people. Hmmm. There is no excuse for this horrendous murder and torture. They knew what was right and wrong and they knew what they were doing....they went back to prove that. They are young and may possibly have some epiphany and change...but there is always going to be a dark shadow following them.
I don’t understand why they’d keep the two killers identities private!? Angela’s whole tragedy is allowed to be shown everywhere but yet the two garbage humans deserve to be protected? They deserve nothing but prison!
I never understand how in these cases with minors, that their identity stays hidden. Obviously they have classmates and friends that know it was them, but yet these kids dont tell anyone?
They can’t as they could be prosecuted. Hardly worth the risk x
I thought the same thing. Like why not sell their identities to someone in a different country that can’t be prosecuted because laws don’t apply to them and they can let the cat out of the bag? No one would have to know and someone makes a buck.
This case is really hard to listen to and I’m not even past the first part yet 😢 Poor Angela, she sounded like such a wonderful person and she didn’t deserve anything that happened to her.
I love the way you articulate you’re videos Danielle, and also don’t know how you can do such pristine makeup whilst talking us through the case so effortlessly! 👌
This one was heartbreaking, even though Angela suffered the same kind of upbringing she was still a good person, she deserved so much more in life!
I would be really interested to hear you go into the Shanda Sharer case. It’s one that always haunts me, would love to hear your perspective. 💕
I don’t normally get upset with cases you cover. But this one just pulled at my heart strings 😢 I really wish the council or police helped angela a long time before this cruel torturing occurred. Wish her neighbours helped her more as well.
I’m from Hartlepool and I remember this. I remember the pictures and videos that circulated. Angela was a lovely woman who had a rough life and didn’t deserve any of this at all. The majority of the town know the girls and their real identities and a lot of the town say their true names because they don’t agree that they should get a new life (I don’t agree with telling their names). Having a bad upbringing does not excuse any of the shit these girls did!!
Name and shame!
Me too Hannah
Why did no one report the posts?? Social media has “dumbed down” the youth of this generation and has a lot to answer for. They went back to that house after visiting a friend to continue the attack - no remorse. That’s as shocking as the murder. And that’s why they should have got more than 15 years.
When it comes to murder and torturing someone I don't care if you're a kid or not should be tried the same. When I was a child I was beaten up by 3 girls at a park who I thought just wanted to play with me. But two girls held my arms and another girl was beating me till my nose bled. Luckily a man saw this and came and stopped them and they ran off. If it weren't for him who would have known what could have happened to me. I feel so sorry for Angela. Rip Angela. 🙏 it makes me so sad.
My animals saved my life, I can’t imagine waking up without them. So many people would benefit from an animal but there seems to be so many “rules” making it hard. Since we’re all friends here, I have 7 cats and my complex has no idea. My unit is kept nicer than some non-animal owners in my complex who live alone or have kids. Animals aren’t for everyone, but they truly benefit mental health, whether that’s addiction or a disorder.
For your own health, please don’t adopt more pets. 7 is a lot. Maybe 7 cats is enough. Plus, cats live 20 years so unless one dies I really don’t think you should get more cats. For your own health, having pets is nice but too many is can cause germs or alter your connection to humans
I volunteer at a local animal rescue charity. Sadly neglected animals whose “owners” were drug and or alcohol dependant, is very high. So placing a vulnerable being with someone who can’t look after themselves is a big NO.
Every time I hear about this case I cry like a baby, like Angela was a relative. My heart breaks for her, her life, her lonelyness, her kind heart and her brutal brutal death how ALONE she really must of felt in those horrific moments. R.I.P Angela I hope ur running with all the puppy's God has given u. 🙏
Anybody can actually phone the police if they're stuck or stranded anywhere! I think there'd be more of an urgency for children.
This case was so heartbreaking.
It is so sad to think that there are people who prey upon naive, innocent, and outcasted people just to take advantage of them and hurt them.
As far as I am concerned, if they do something like this, they should lose their right to privacy.
They can still end up like Angela. She did time for awhile and got out and ended up a lonely alcoholic. They better hope younger versions of themselves don't find them when they're decrepit and helpless.
Holy smokes! What in the hell is wrong with a 13 n 14 year old that would do something so absolutely outrageous just becuz?! That poor woman SUFFERED for 9 HOURS.... I mean damn.
Danielle I love the way you articulate things and how you lay/map out all of the elements in the case. It makes it more enjoyable to watch (if that's even possible!)
The whole story is just full of severely damaged people . Its so depressing ! So many of them abused or forgotten about by their own families. I just hate these stories . People failing their kids over and over again
I honestly think every wayward child should have a CPS report made about their parents ... Because that's where it starts
They deserve to be identified and face public scorn for their crimes. They should not be protected. Angela wasn’t. You want to do adult crimes you should be treated like an adult.
This truly breaks my heart….she just felt alone…and they made fun of her like that was weird
What a mistake to grant them anonymity. These girls not only murdered, they tortured a woman for nine hours. The public should definitely be aware of them. Also, I find it really hard to feel sympathy for their suicide attempts tbh
I watch a lot of true crime and I've seen plenty of make up up and murder channels. You are the only one that made me subscribe because you show such emotion regarding the victims. It's obvious how empathetic and considerate you are. You're the only one to treat these cases with the care they deserve.
As teenagers they would have viewed Angie as a pathetic old alcho who was so desperate for friends she'd do anything they told her to do. Being this age and their backgrounds, they use of drugs and alcohol just lowered their inhabitants, hence they felt it was okay to do that to this pathetic old alcho (speaking of their view of Angie, not mine) they clearly thought (A) nobody would miss her or really care. (B) They thought they'd get away with it...and if they did get caught that very little would be done about it. Which is why they were ballsy enough to call the police to drive them home....IMHO rip Angie 😢💔
I love this series! You do such an amazing job of representing the victims while stating the facts. I hope your channel keeps growing because you deserve it!
I'm speechless. This is a very heartbreaking case. I hope the two girls suffer in life.. I mean it. That poor women, I relate to her loneliness. This is so sad :(
In some prisons in the US, they give well-behaved prisoners dogs to train. They have classes, and the dogs stay with them, and they do so much better, and they have a much lower rate of recidivism. It really helps people who need it most.
Owning a dog full time is a very big responsibility and expense. Also no dog rehoming centre would allow someone without any outside space to adopt a dog.
People can volunteer to help out walking dogs at rehoming centres and a drug and alcohol treatment centre could and would arrange such a thing, however you need to remember that any volunteers have to be managed by staff and a disruptive alcoholic would take up too much of their time. When you are ready for it then a pet can have a great effect on the mental health of recovering addicts but the pet cannot be allowed to suffer while you find your way
This was a horrific story. The soulessness of those girls is unbelievable.
P. S. We missed you last week!