SWTOR: All Class Encounters in the Nathema Conspiracy (That I managed to record)
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- SWTOR 5.9 - All Class encounters in the Nathema Conspiracy - some dark and light side versions
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That's a big amount of characters who were just killed off the next scene they are in
Darth Baras was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
*Nnnnyyyyyyyyaaaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!* intensifies
@@turinmormegil7715 Nice lungs you got there.
Meh I would rather have him doing something plot wise. Being used as a one-off to be killed is a waste.
@Túrin Mormegil77 “I can feel your anger, master.”
@Chalicodragon What major role would a guy that you are meant to kill off at the end of your original story is meant to serve?
Zash: returns
Inquisitor: Aw shit, here we go again
Alternatively
How many times do we have to teach this lesson old witch?
And she just so happened upon some poor sod who somewhat resembles how she originally looked before the Dark Side turned her into a walking mummified corpse.
It was khem who turned up for me lmao
@@Iwanhunt4181 year late but damn. You really betrayed homeboy khem like that?
@@umbers28 yeah i was a very power hungry sith and khem stopped being useful
And I'm still here, waiting for Darth Jadus to finaly make a comeback
Agreed.
or Malgus...
Jadus was seen dead in Chapter 3 as part of the Visions he experienced with Valkorion, his body can be seen laying on the ground where the citadle speeders once where.
Zyken Reborn
Yes. In the same vision your companions were dead.
And you fought your storyline enemies, despite they could be killed
Jadus is confirmed to be alive. Lana even mentioned him as one of her suspects in the war for Iokath storyline. I'm hoping that he returns in the expansion. Btw that whole vision in chapter 2 of kotet was all an illusion. You also saw Satele die in that vision yet she's still very much alive.
“I struck down the emperor to save the galaxy, and you’re mad about losing your job?”-Male Jedi Knight
Correction. Solid snake with a lightsaber said that.
Who knew the Jedi could be so savage?! 🙈🤣
I was so pleasantly surprised to see my light side Jedi Guardian cultivate a sense of humour like this.
Darth Zash = Space Orochimaru
New Darth Zash is hawt as fuck.
Black Heart only she sucks way more
*s* *u* *c* *c*
Never thought of that she didn't really strike me as a snake more of a cockroach.
That's... surprisingly accurate tbh.
You'd think Kiwiks would said something about Kira. Like, expressing worry about the darkness you could infected her with. Or complimented Kira on her strength to resist the darkness with you guiding her towards it or something.
I miss my Kira...
Huh, random surprise to see you here.
@@shadowofthehitokiri5787 A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one I hope
@@voicingdragoon7
Hehehe. Was just watching random swtor vids.
@@shadowofthehitokiri5787 Well, i am a fan of swtor, so it was a matter of time XD
So many wasted characters. Odd that some classes see random people vaguely attached to the main character, and others get someone you've seen since the start.
you have a point there
Ravage you do know that the emperor try to kill everything? You should be grateful! Heck marr told us to destroy the emperor
Ravage has always irritated me
"I believe you knew my predecessor, General Rectum."
They do that on purpose, don't they?
Sheer madness to leave Baras alive... But oh boy hes an amazing villain :)
i think my Jug killed Darth Bigandbusty
KeybladeWXV I had Baras imprisoned. I wanted him to live a long life stewing over how I had taken everything from him.
@@wingedhussar8552 My exact thought as well
Just finished my Dark Side Sith Marauder's story last night and came away thinking how pathetic Darth Baras truly was in the end. His Force powers are diminished... his political power destroyed... his information network dismantled and he still demanded the rest of the council kill the Emperor's Wrath like he was still in complete control of everything and everyone around him.
Was so awesome when Marr said "Nah... I think I'll take my chances."
My sith warriors never do. Not even the super LS ones. Much safer that way.
all these great characters return... just be sacrificed... great job bioware great job EA
I was eager for my rematch with Zash and the chance to fight Ravage
:(
I kinda respect Gaden-Ko
at least he's remorseful for what he's doing, the others don't give a fuck.
RIP Watcher Two
watcher 2 becomes the new keeper, and later on Imperial intelligence is dismantled so....
Of all the possible traitors, Shara Jenn is by far the most painful to confront. I wish I could have saved her.
Does this ONLY happen when becoming a double agent with Kothe at the end of Ch3? Can I side with the republic at other times?
@@Jiekexun Yep. You have to defect way back in the base game to get her scene here.
@@aj-mj2ow why would anyone defect though
you missed the inquisitor one where you get khem instead of zash. you get it if you imprisoned khem and kept zash in khems body.
Darth Kasdeya actually hè ends up as fuel for zildrog
They also forgot Master Sumalee for the smuggler.
When Darth Ravage started calling me out, I can't helo but say "I don't even know who you are."
Thank you for watching the Nathema Conspiracy videos :) I think I'll make a review/my thoughts video tomorrow
What happens if you let Zash have Khem Val's body?
It is also funny to see Darth Ravage as enemy. As far as I remember he shit his pants in both Sith warrior and inquisitor stories after he saw main hero power.
When you enter dark counsel he behaves ruthless. He even wants to get rid of you
After you beat your master he just put his tongue in ass and shut up. He is most pathetic DC member you ever met.
Darth Ravage complains about everything.
I raised a brow at Servant One during my playthrough, didn't anyone tell this guy that his master had another empire that he found more worthy of his attention?
I didn’t even know you could spare Baras
Real siths couldn't. That choice only appeared for pussies.
Not even pussies couldn't so foolish to spare him.
I did not even know there are people who deprive themselves opportunity to stab this noisy fatso. On all campaigns I didn’t get so much pleasure from killing main enemy of chapter 3 as I got from Baras. Even “shh thanks for playing” is only on second place
Actually I found that more ruthless than death. A Sith who lost everything and even got the honorable death in combat taken away from him by imprisoning him.
It's more torture to NOT kill him
Darth Baras: "I've craved your destruction for so many years. Now the Order will finally help me achieve it."
Sith Marauder: "Okay Boomer."
Baras. Always relying on someone to do your dirty work for you.
You see master sumalee if you decide to turn on the republic during the finale of the smuggler
Master who?
That's What had me confused. I had the fleet attack the empire fleet, was lightside3 and still managed to get her....
Bindair Dundat she was in act 3 of the smuggler story
Rita F that happened to me too and I also didn't get theron back
@@ritaf5966 did u side with the empire on Iokath?
Servant One has the wrong voice actor. Shame, the original one was miles better.
yes
Who the heck is he? I forgot 😂
@@NinPossible The guy from the Sith Warrior's class story, who takes over the role of telling the Warrior what to do in the last third portion of the story.
@@Sone01TheFirst got cha, thanks!
Imagine this, the emperor's influence made his voice cool and deep, now that he's gone he sounds weird
He's not mad at you for taking his job security, he's mad that he sounds like a loser
The Trooper one should have been something to do with the Alderaan storyline:
1. If the trooper betrays the Republic after KOTET, It should be General Garza, as existing.
2. If the trooper stays with the Republic after KOTET, it should've been one of two options:
2a. If the trooper pardoned Markus Thul on Alderaan, Pallos Organa should have joined the Order of Zildrog.
2b. If the trooper let the Organas do whatever they wanted with Markus Thul, or denied the existence of a deal in the first place, Valyn Thul should have honoured her threat to "make everyone pay" by joining the Order of Zildrog.
No surprise that War Criminal Garza stooped this low.
I don't understand how they could forget that I betrayed my monster and let Zash have his body as an inquisitor. But ... Bioware when Zash showed up .. I was very confused.
Could be a bug. I saw people say they killed baras and still got baras instead of ravage.
@@AtlisDeHis cake addiction was so powerful, he could even surpass death.
@@dagothur1079 The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities that some consider to be unnatural...
I wish they put more thought into choosing which characters to want revenge :( They seemed rushed and didn't even do anything but die.
ya id would have loved to kill that racist traitor to the new ways of the empire
Its nice you put that disclaimer in the title
Such a shame we'll probably never see Watcher 2/Keeper/Shara again, really wanted her as a companion
I think lord vindis has the same voice actor as Asajj Ventress
Some of these make sense. Most of them don’t.
Yeah. Garza should be in prison, for example...
And it makes Master Kiwiks look like an utter moron.
I hadn't done the Sith Warrior storyline yet when I arrived at this point on my Light Side Jedi Guardian main... so I had no idea who the bloody hell Servant 1 is. That said... it still made sense... I mean by destroying the Emperor, twice at that point, I had robbed him of everything he ever lived for... not to mention the immortality the Emperor bestows upon the Servants.
@@HouseOfAlastrian I have two problems with Servant 1.
First, I would have expected him to appear in front of the Sith Warrior instead of Darth Ravage. Of every character in the SW storyline, Servant 1 should be the only one who could have a problem with the Sith Warrior turning on the Emperor. It makes Darth Ravage appear to be a total moron, more than he already was by that point. And Servant 1, being the nutcase he is, would have been totally justified in doing so.
Second, given what we now know from Echoes of Oblivion, the Servants all knew that the Emperor still existed in some form, and were still serving him in that capacity, so for Servant 1 to appear before the JK for “killing the Emperor and robbing him of life’s meaning” makes no sense.
This part of the storyline was just a poorly implemented means of making it seem like this is your character’s personal story.
@@CaptainRed1000 Yeah I agree that Servant 1 would make more sense for the Sith Warrior than Darth Ravage at least... I mean he really has to feel betrayed when the Sith Warrior destroyed 'Valkorion'.
And yeah you do make a good point about the Servants knowing the final contingency the Emperor had in place with his original body that Kira and Scourge destroyed. I mean when I went to help Satele and her followers against his curse, the Servants were already there. Why wouldn't Servant 1... the most significant of the Servants know about that contingency?
Perhaps that part of the story hadn't been written yet when this part of the story was implemented.
I feel like Darth Ravage is here just because they could not find a reasonable opponent for Warrior who killed Baras. Seriously, his problem with Warrior that he killed Baras who wanted to usurp Empire as false Voice and Sith Emperor, the same guy who turned Ziost into a wasteland...
What I really appreciate is that anyone who actually knows 'you' is well aware the goof bot will only slow you down. Anyone who doesn't is more confident in it killing you.
so... when can i take baras' helmet?
good question!
Put a hat on that mask and there you go, simple.
i miss Darth Jadus... :(
he was too badass to return
I was so weirded out at Sumalee appearing there on my smuggler. Sure, she was a greedy self-serving opportunist, only getting involved in the war for the thrill and the bragging rights. And she let the pirates attack both sides after Voidy died. But that's hardly a reason for the "master of breaking and entering" to be upset.
I cried when the tiger droid start spinning XD
As nice as it is to see Baras come back, I wish he'd become a force ghost and make good on his threat if the sith warrior kills him.
Underwhelming: I expected a top of lungs scream from Baras
It's so stupid that they get killed in this, I wanted to fight Baras again
Baras’s only chance of killing the sith warrior is to eat them
This ranges from emotional, to fairly interesting, to "who the fuck are you?"
Guardian droid every time he gets called out: "Someone say cakes?! :O"
ENJOY THE SUPRISE I HAVE LEFT YOU. Its not a suprise if you face it every time
Man, I wonder how long it took to make this video.
Thanks for uploading this video!
You missed the Inquisitor's convo with Khem and the Smuggler's convo with Master Sumalee.
For the Agent I found that if you defect to the Republic (or if you ally with the Republic on Iokath, not sure) You’re confronted by Shara Jenn (Watcher 2) have to admit,,. Her betrayal kinda stung
Bioware devs: wow can't believe so many people stuck with us for a year when we essentially gave them nothing. 2nd dev: well that's over now that we are going back to the core element of republic vs empire. 1dev true but there are a few characters that I am really sick of having fans ask me about. 2nd dev: me too what can we do? 1st dev well with this final FP for the KoTFE story we can blow up the gravestone and destroy the fleet and basically put the players back at square one. 2dev:ok well that's takes care of one problem, but what about returning characters? 1st dev well remember how we did the emperor sucked the life out of the planet... well now the gravestone did that and to power it we will just stick various characters from each story class in one of the tubes and when everything blows up those characters just die. 2nd dev well that sounds passable can we pull it off. 1st dev probably not but that's what we're going with.
My idea of how the pitch for this final KoTFE FP went.
Actually it was Vitiate who killed everyone on Nathema. He simply used Zildrog to kill a lot of people so he could start the ritual. He did the same thing on Ziost. His Ritual needs a sacrifice to start and the more people you sacrifice the more powerful and effective the ritual becomes. But they didn't really make it clear in the game so i understand why a lot of people are confused about this.
marvin nanno actually is was the gravestone as they clearly state when the stupid ship AI says "not since I last consumed this planet have I felt such hunger". So yeah the gravestone took out Nathema not the emperor.
No the devs cleared that up. Vitiate was the one who destroyed the world but he used Zildrog to help start the ritual. You can look it up if you don't belive me.
Unrelated to this cideo but i love the second consulars hair
I’m excited to see these guys in person
The big reveals for the AJedi Consular are yawn inducing. “Have we met?” Type yawn inducing. Especially when compared to the Sith Inquisitors Zash or Sith Warriors Darth BeautifulatanysizeMe
You missed the one with keeper (AKA watcher 2 AKA Shara Jen). The conversation between her and the imp agent is one of my favorites
just one thing. you dont show another sith inquisitor option. If you let darth zash stay inside khem'val body, its khem val who appears in that after break free from zash control's.
I choose all the light side options for my smuggler but for some reason I got Master Sumalee as my traitor. It made me sad😔
Most
Wasted
General garza
Ever
Feels so strange for a Consular to act like that.
I got master Sumalee on my smuggler, It made me sad, i thought to myself: '"Why did I have to be a greedy douchebag" But i know for a fact i didn't pick the dark side option, i'm fairly certain i chose the neutral option where you ask the pirate fleet for tribute. Still now that i think about it, some of the reasons these class story npcs join the order is just dumb and petty. Thanks for sharing your experiences, i enjoyed seeing the different classes :)
ApplesauceBandit I know. I picked " attack the empire" and still got her...
I played a Light Side Imp Agent, turned double agent for the Republic. I got Shara Jenn as my traitor. And it really hurt. I didn't like the old Intelligence Minister because he was behind my brainwashing. But Shara was just another victim of Intelligence, like me. I helped the Minister free her from her conditioning and we parted as friends. She was used, damaged, and thrown away by the people she'd served faithfully for years. I just wanted to protect her. And then she dies hating me for choosing the Republic over the Empire that had used us both. Boy, oh boy did it hurt.
Maybe I'm biased to the Empire, since my first characters were Imperials, but honestly one of the main reasons I would never agree to become a double agent, it's because of my colleagues at Imperial Intelligence, I could never find the heart to betray them; I found them interesting, pragmatic, efficient, reliable and resourceful (all qualities that, in my RP, my agent deeply appreciate) and if that wasn't enough, the witty and/or ironic remarks (so common in the Imperial sense of humour) won me over all the way. Even when my IA confronted the Minister about the brainwashing, he made clear that he didn't liked the idea too, but orders were orders, and these orders came from idiotic Siths scared of the potential of my agent, and I truly believed that the Minister would never use that keyword, I believed that only my Sith superiors would have the nerve to use this thing, maybe I’m naive, but I believed that... the fact that you're only presented with treacherous/petty/bratty siths along your IA class story might have something to do with it.
So Siths are a no no to my agent, but the republic didn't do a good job to won over her allegiance either, I found them incredibly hypocritical. And when the Siths dissolved the Imperial Intelligence, my agent was furious, but wanted to stay regardless, she wanted to be free, yes, but she also believed that she could make the Empire a better place for her former colleagues and the many competent non-force users that exists in the Empire.
So to that end
I chose the ghost ending, and being free of sith's and republic's orders seemed like the most freedom my Agent could achieve, so I was quite satisfied with that.
Wasted opportunity for there to be a line to ask Baras "After years of being locked up, HOW ARE YOU STILL SO FAT!?".
Technically Zach was the only master who was there for you the entire story. By force of course but still counts
One that wasn't shown was for DS Bounty Hunters if you killed the previous chancellor before Saresh, his wife is the one who sends the beast
You missed a lot of these. Like Master Sumalee for the Dark Side Smuggler
Well I ran out of characters :)
There's one for smuggler where that Jedi is against you. U gotta go DS for Voidwolf tho
you left out an alternate conversation for smuggler, sith inquisitor, bounty hunter, & imperial agent
7:51 Is that the voice actor of Ventress from the Clone Wars?
THOUXANBAND RAPH I'd bet on it.
that's what i thought
THOUXANBAND RAPH I think it is. Her voice sounds so similar
She voices a lot in the star wars franchise :)
2:05 Laura Bailey!!!
How to make Nexia Kirill appear? No, it doesn't depend on smuggler choice with Voidwolf's fleet. And it doesn't depend on alignment. I won't let Togruta die, so I have to start again for the 3rd time because Master Sumalee appeared 2 times before and I didn't want to finish it (I always give fleet to the Republic, but during 1st try scoundrel had dark alignment, during 2nd try scoundrel was neutral with 1551 Light Side points)
Ngl...my first run of this I had only finished the Jedi Knight Story. I had no idea who Servant One was.
was wondering if the achievements on the nathem conspiracy involve both choices for every character storyline for full completion.
I hope that we get some of these characters come back
Why is it that the guys aligned or originally FROM the Republic side keeps expecting that you won't actually survive, but everyone who has been Imperial, or born Imperial, gives you credit due? (Garza, etc)
Because they were imperial at one point in their lives and knew that power is, well power. And must be acknowledged. Where as the republic, they don’t have their views ingrained into their culture
This is after KOTET? ASWELL THE BATTLE OF IOKATH?
yes
Yeah... General Garza shows up if your trooper sides with the Empire on Iokath.
I feel like BH's light side or neutral nemesis here should had been Tarro Blood. Claim that he barely managed to survive and escape during the great hunt(lord knows that's common in SW) and is now back to claim his so called Mandalorian birth right by killing his old foe. He was more of a despicable bastard and more of a formative influence to BH's story than Darth Tormen, let alone his former apprentice who shows up out of nowhere.
Should of brought Scrough with you for the Sith part. lol
Wtf Darth Zash, ALIVE!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? (I only play free game story)
Yeah she doesn’t die, only gets trapped in a soul jail Holocron thing
@@GamingMasterAnthony *Rakatan box
@@jeremiahgranger1566 that was it, thanks
This is good
4:44 did he just say general rectum? Lmao 😂
Would've been better if they brought a bit of closure to some of these characters than just this one off dialogue before they're killed off-screen. These are people who played key parts in the PC's story, doesn't make sense to bring them back just to erase them seconds later without a proper send off. It would also make a players choice from a long time ago feel more impactful.
So who are the 2 more dangerous then the agent? I really want to know.
me2
Kiwiks calling you a weapon.....Hmmm she's not a weapon she's human being Kiwiks this is not a jedi way
What happens if you let Zash have Khem Val's body?
Nicholas Squires Khem Val shows up instead of Zash. A pitiful way of getting rid of someone like Tulak Hord's favored servant
Do Darth zash exist in the same universe as Darth baras?
(Timelines I mean)
That would be a really cool alliance
Both storylines of these characters exist simultaneously in the base game, but in Nathema Conspiracy it's complicated..
So could say it's in a different universe or a different timeline..
so do any of these situations get resolved?
rewatching this made me think, it is too bad that the side you're on don't have any dialogue as well. have a bit of support to bolster your efforts
I recently did Nathema Conspiracy on my Sith Warrior (he was my first character and I made it full Dark) I have killed Darth Baras yet.... In FP I have him instead of Ravage... Why? Bug? Anyone have same issue?
Yeah, I think it happened to others as well
Zash's motivation actually doesn't make sense. She wants to take your body.... after you're dead???
The reason she switched bodys in the first place was because her's was dying. So why would you want to take a dead body?
Oh. Zash is there? I want her and Khem as companions... But alas, it will never come true. Oof
0:02, 0:59 who are they? I don’t remember them.
both are from JC's story on Voss
xLetalis well thx captain, as long as Voss man was here. I just don’t remember who was man and who was woman, what was story around them.
I bet this was a pain in the ass to record 😅
tbh i think Servant One should have appeared for the Emperor's Wrath.
While the Jedi Knight did rob Servant 1 of everything he lived for and the immortality the Emperor bestowed upon him, I found myself asking who the bloody hell is this since I hadn't finished my vanilla Sith Warrior campaign yet.
But yeah... at this point the Sith Warrior had turned against the Emperor by destroying 'Valkorion'... so surely Servant 1 would be feeling betrayed at that point.
Darth Zash and Darth Baras
Oh, you’re the Witcher guy
O lord zash? Baras? HAHA-BUUUUURN
So who's missing
i know there is another for Sith Inquisitor, if you chose Zash over Khem Val in the past he will appear instead of zash
Master Sumalee is another one for the smuggler.
The wife of the (ex) Chancellor if you killed him instead of Tormen for the bounty hunter
Watcher 2 if your imperial agent became a gouble agent
How do u get Bela Kiwiiks to be ur enemy? I'm quite curious for the conditions since i want to be a dark sider but also Jedi master for my next run
huh, I honestly don't know if it's possible
Probably just be a Dark Side Jedi
Does Servant One have a different voice actor?
did servant one's voice change?
Servant One be salty af
lol.. this dungeon was the cheapest genocide ever. xD
It cut off almost all of the loose ends. The worst part? These people were just in test tubes. They never even put up a fight.
How do i start this?
on your ship?
Fractured Alliances
Wait, so after we talk to one of these characters, all of them die, or just the one who we talked to?
good question, I'd assume it's all of them
But that doesn't make sense. Take the Trooper for example. If you stay with the Republic Rackton's subordinate shows up, but if we switch sides Garza shows up. Them both working together doesn't make sense.
your choices before (choosing empire or republic) determin who joins the order of Zildrog or what ever they are called. both of the people aren't there, So if you choose the republic as a trooper, General Garza won't be there, only the other guy. All classes get 2 choices, depending on things you chose before, some choices are as early as in your class story from 1 to 50 (Inquisitor). others when you choose between empire and republic and so. that is what I love with this game, choices matter.