WHAT IS A GET HOME BAG ??? | WHAT DO I KEEP IN MY ULTIMATE GET HOME BAG (72-HOUR BAG EDC) ???

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  • @trooperjinthewoods4538
    @trooperjinthewoods4538 Рік тому +4

    Nice kit- new sub, I look forward to the trial video.
    Hopefully you will do it in a mix of weather good and bad.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Thanks for following along! That’s a great idea, will have to test in the rain and cold, wind and sun - in combined weather!

  • @Gmar69
    @Gmar69 Рік тому +3

    Two other lightweight and compact fire starting fuel are steel wool and guitar picks. Both are very flammable.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      💯 That would make my fire-making bag even more well-rounded. Another option would be fantastic!

  • @jamesparker6383
    @jamesparker6383 Рік тому +5

    That's not a bad kit you have there, but I would add a decent compass along with a topo map of your general area as you pointed out redundancy. You might also want to consider a slightly larger fixed blade knife, using your folder for batoning is not a really great idea. One other thing that you may find useful is a small folding saw like the Silky. Like somebody else pointed out a small stove like the Esbit or the BCB they both fold up to a small size and they also come with fuel tabs that can be used to heat stuff up or help start a fire.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Definitely agree, some additional simple and more streamlined ways to locate/find ones bearings would be a nice add on top of the Garmin and the cheap tiny compass I have. Topo map would be clutch. A higher quality compass, a smaller silky saw that folds up and a proper bushcraft fixed blade would be good kit adds. I will look into the Esbit stove, guessing they are titanium or stainless steel/foldable for light weight. Thank You! 👊

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 Рік тому +1

      Or a fiskars hatchet. Cheap, not too heavy. It is the best hatchet 🪓 I have owned

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      @@chevy4x466 love Fiskars! I have their small hatchet as well and their larger orange/black axe for woodcutting. Both great tools!!! I spray paint mine all black or all orange and use some gaffer’s tape to add some grip! 🪵 🪓

  • @corporaterobotslave400
    @corporaterobotslave400 Рік тому +5

    Do yourself a favor and check out Seychelle RAD water filter bottles, it even filters out radiation. They have DoD contracts.

  • @bradcement3068
    @bradcement3068 Рік тому +3

    Great kit. A silky saw and a mini stove would take up minimal room and weight is marginal are two things I would add to your kit. Overall I can see you like quality gear so this pack is nearly perfect.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Been looking at getting a smaller folding Silky saw. Would make quicker work of cutting fire wood 🪵 I also agree on the mini stove. I will have to do some more research on these options. Thank you for watching!

  • @MichaelB2L
    @MichaelB2L Рік тому +2

    Thanks for this video buddy. I’m considering purchasing a Eberlestock Bandit for this exact purpose so it’s great to see what it can hold. Much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching! Love the Bandit pack and it’s pretty streamlined/lightweight for hiking and shorter 2-3 day trips. Personally was surprised with how much the Bandit can hold. Their bigger hunting packs are also killer with the mainframe system and the batwings. Been impressed with durability so far. Glad to provide you with a point of reference! 👊

    • @MichaelB2L
      @MichaelB2L Рік тому +1

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance 👍🏻👍🏻 I like the design; narrow not bulky or overly tactical. The organisation looks sufficient without being over the top.
      Thanks again brother. Glad it’s holding up well.

  • @alanrice39
    @alanrice39 Рік тому +2

    Nice pack and well put together kit in a small package not over burden or cumbersome, new sub here

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      👊 Thank you for subscribing and following along! I’ll keep hammering on the 🎥!!!

  • @waitandsee9345
    @waitandsee9345 Рік тому +3

    Candle is good for lighting and warm.

  • @arctodussimus6198
    @arctodussimus6198 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding load out.
    👍🏼👍🏼
    You mentioned redundancy in fire making. An excellent philosophy. I always carry a magnifying lens. I don’t like fresnel lenses, but they work and take up no space or weight.
    I like to have electrolyte packets to add to my water.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      Excellent points! Hadn’t even considered electrolyte packets - would be a super light add and valuable! 👊👍

  • @bodie463
    @bodie463 Рік тому +2

    Great kit. I keep some Potassium Iodide tablets & a CBRN facelet in mine.

  • @BlesamaSoul
    @BlesamaSoul Рік тому +1

    Like the bag and kit within it, I'd add a lightweight sleeping pad to use within the bivvy in the event of sleeping low profile in a SHTF situation to stay hidden and warm. We use blizzard bags here in the UK and any ex army types will tell you they are great, but a lot better if a pad used with them. I would also add some additional lightweight food (dehydrated) to ensure if you are delayed on your get home or bug out then a good meal is available with just hot water, saves seeking supplies elsewhere in a SHTF situation and ensures you have the fuel to get home! Thanks for making the video

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching! I definitely need to add a few MREs like some MountainHouse or Peak Refuel meals. I will look into the Blizzard Bags, and also agree that some sort of lightweight inflatable sleeping pad or a hammock would bring my setup up a notch! Also, random FYI of the day, I was born in England and lived in Somerset and Dorset until I was about 8 years old! 🇬🇧 👊

  • @anthonyhewitt6333
    @anthonyhewitt6333 Рік тому +2

    Great kit great ideas

  • @robertlutz128
    @robertlutz128 Рік тому +2

    LOVE this GET HOME BAG! I learned of some items I can add to mine; love the light weight pack too.
    Definitely would have ammunition and my "gat!" Remember to carry your CWP with the ammo and your protection! CHEERS to "Uncle WALTHER!"

  • @suprememagnetic4850
    @suprememagnetic4850 Рік тому +1

    You got everything covered, great job!

  • @turtlewolfpack6061
    @turtlewolfpack6061 Рік тому +3

    I think you may find, if you haven't already, that your sleep system may be ineffective. Also, always pack spare socks.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      Agreed. A hammock system plus a lightweight top quilt would be a good lightweight addition. Depending on the environment, could make a cushioned bed with an array of pine boughs. I include an extra pair of socks at the 11:34 mark, but two extra total pairs would certainly be better!

    • @turtlewolfpack6061
      @turtlewolfpack6061 Рік тому +1

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance I missed the first pair of socks but I always try to pack two if I can!

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      @@turtlewolfpack6061 Thank you for following along, appreciate the support! 👊

  • @user-gn5uy6lx7z
    @user-gn5uy6lx7z Рік тому +1

    My first priority is
    water, where to get it, and how to clean water for survival.
    A personal water filtering straw fixes that
    Emergency " LifeTent", they are small and can be used as a tent ( you can put two people in it). It can also be used as an emergency sleeping bag and a blanket.
    Always have a medical kit. I myself have several kits that I put together, and they all carry the following:
    Tourniquet ×2
    Isreal Bandages ×2
    Bleedstop ×2
    Packing gauze ×3
    Chest Seal ×2
    Heavy flow Bandages (different sizes)
    Gloves ×2
    Butterfly Bandages ×6
    Superglue ×2 individual pk
    Penlight
    Flashlight
    Tweezers different sizes
    Dental Floss ×1 roll
    Sterile Scalpel ×4
    Wound Seal ×2
    Tylenol ×4
    Ibuprofen ×4
    AfterBite ×1
    Burn Gel ×4
    Stick to itself cotten wrap ×2
    Medicated Bandages with Bleedstop ×2
    Alcohol Wipes ×3
    But besides the medical aspect of this bag, I carry several ways for survival
    Survival Cards ×4
    Knife ×2
    Emergency Whistle
    Emergency mirror
    Emergency Blanket
    Emergency Firestarter/ striker
    Emergency Fire Starter ×3
    Life Straw
    That is my basic EDC bag, and I have several of them.

  • @Rootkitdev
    @Rootkitdev 5 місяців тому +1

    Reading the comments. These people are so confused- you’re more prepared than 90% of the people in the comment section.
    Good stuff man. Got some great takeaways.
    Do you have redundancies? Yes. That’s not a bad thing as long as you can carry them. And if you can carry these. Then great. If it gets heavy. You can always drop and get rid of stuff.
    Good video.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  5 місяців тому

      @@Rootkitdev Really appreciate your thoughtful comments and sensibility. I guess we can’t truly satisfy everyone on here, but we can strive to get better dialed. Glad you found some good nuggets in all this. Thank you again for watching!!! 🤘🏼

  • @00xanawolf00
    @00xanawolf00 Рік тому +2

    Total weight? I learned about some new (to me) gear options from your video. Great editing. The titanium bottle/filter is something I’ve been working on. I combine a Sawyer filtration unit with a wide mouth titanium Nalgene style bottle.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      I’ll give it a weigh and let you know how heavy the full pack is. I will have to give the Sawyer filtration system a look. Appreciate the support as well! 👊

  • @levifletcher4462
    @levifletcher4462 Рік тому +2

    Nice stuff!!! Interested in that pack company now. Nice benchmade also, however it isn't an automatic, that's the regular manual open full size adamas. Expensive little suckers but they're addicting lol

    • @unclefreedom213
      @unclefreedom213 Рік тому

      you can't go wrong with eberlestock I have 5 packs from them and uploaded a rundown video on my UA-cam channel on the F5 Switchblade best damn edc pack I've ever used. Check it out

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching! 👊

  • @turdferguson2863
    @turdferguson2863 Рік тому +1

    *PLEASE look into* the Outdoor Element fire escape. A seatbelt cutter and window breaker that I use for my key ring.
    I swapped out my binos for the vortex solo r/t monocular, it gives me the ability to recon and estimate range.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      I will scope out these items. Have heard of Outdoor Element, but haven’t seen that item. Vortex is legit for estimating distance and range. Thank you for following along and appreciate the comments! 👊

  • @MTwoodsrunner
    @MTwoodsrunner Рік тому +1

    I Reckon you've pretty much have it covered son...subbed...woods

  • @nerdyhustle
    @nerdyhustle Місяць тому +1

    I loved the Bandit until the beaver tail started delaminating after three months of use, carrying nothing more than a soft shell lunch box ☹️ This issue isn’t necessarily Eberlestock specific. All laminate I’ve ever used ended up delaminating soon after initial use, unfortunately.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Місяць тому +1

      @@nerdyhustle bummer to hear that happened. Has not happened to mine yet, still going strong. Something for me to keep an eye on though for sure. Thanks for watching!

  • @turdferguson2863
    @turdferguson2863 Рік тому +1

    I like the eberlestock lo-drag 2, I can stuff my GPR in it

  • @carolinagirl3110
    @carolinagirl3110 Рік тому +1

    Great stuff….thanks for sharing!

  • @blakebrewton9346
    @blakebrewton9346 Місяць тому +1

    Does the bivy make you sweat? You should do more videos of you doing overnighter with this.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Місяць тому +1

      @@blakebrewton9346 this Bivy isn’t too bad at all - Breathes a little for sure. I agree, need to make some videos of the applications in this pack, would be Bueno & much needed! Keep your eyes open for future breakdown vids. Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼

  • @KaylaSwartz-rt2sq
    @KaylaSwartz-rt2sq Рік тому +1

    Always be prepared!!

  • @長渕文太
    @長渕文太 Рік тому +2

    thanks for the great video🔥

  • @kariturnerart
    @kariturnerart Рік тому +1

    Very great setup. Curious is there a reason you don’t have an extra change of clothes, a pocket rocket/fuel, more food, or a sleeping pad? Just to keep it lighter?

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching! Yes, correct, I aimed to keep it on the lighter side when possible, otherwise I’d definitely add a jetboil/msr fuel, some more food/snacks, some dry clothes, and a pad or hammock. If I used a slightly larger pack, the addition of those items would be nice adds for sure!

  • @gynn4622
    @gynn4622 Рік тому +1

    maybe swap the bino's for a monocular. Good video

  • @ferryvantichelen6521
    @ferryvantichelen6521 Рік тому +1

    So where do you put your jacket? Your bag seems full, but when I actually go hiking I always need to put my extra layers somewhere, especially when out for 3 days.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Stuff or neatly fold your jacket into the molle panel on exterior of pack, or use one of the bungy cords/carabiners to hang it? Could also tie jacket around your waist or tie the sleeves around/through the pack somehow

  • @mongo1243
    @mongo1243 Рік тому +2

    Just subscribed, got to support another Coloradan

  • @StarnaessGacha
    @StarnaessGacha Рік тому +2

    nice video and nice kit, i do have one question, is there a reason why you keep the bullets in a bag rather than in magazines? Keep up the good work bud

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Good question. I usually EDC carry my loaded gun inside the waistband appendix carry. My kydex holster also has an extra slot for my 2nd magazine (1 loaded magazine in the gun plus 1 additional magazine ready to go). So my additional 25 rounds of 9mm are just kept in a bag for pure convenience, to also keep them dry in a waterproof bag, and to prevent any lead contamination on anything else in the pack. So technically I have 15+1 per magazine on my person x 2 for 32 rounds loaded at the ready, plus the additional 25 rounds in the ziplock bag = 57 Total Rounds.

  • @MeOnTech
    @MeOnTech 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice

  • @henrycastejon1652
    @henrycastejon1652 5 місяців тому +1

    You think i can take this bag for a 3 day trip in the woods. Maybe combined with a dz rig LBE.

  • @robertwillis4061
    @robertwillis4061 Рік тому +3

    Not sure if camo is best for a B O B, in a urban area you would look Military, many Militia or Police would target you to search or detain. A plain Black or Sports related would be less attractive to them. Many guys ( joiners, warehouseman, truck drivers etc ) have a rucksack just for ' stuff ' not necessarily B O B

  • @derealovesurvival7549
    @derealovesurvival7549 11 місяців тому +1

    Cool kit and new sub ATB

  • @fennecbushcraft9001
    @fennecbushcraft9001 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your présentation

  • @skizzarz
    @skizzarz 11 місяців тому +1

    2:58 the short form of titanium is pronounced like tie not tee eye, it's a multi word acronym, texas instruments.

  • @buzz5969
    @buzz5969 Рік тому +3

    My get home bag is just a regular shopping bag, if it works dont break it.

  • @brecklight203
    @brecklight203 4 місяці тому +1

    You’re dialed in!

  • @antonbriggs5680
    @antonbriggs5680 8 місяців тому +1

    Still waiting for the field test of your GHB.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  8 місяців тому +1

      Yes, hopefully coming soon! Spring is here. Excited to get out more!

    • @antonbriggs5680
      @antonbriggs5680 8 місяців тому +1

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance can't wait to see!

  • @standingbear998
    @standingbear998 10 місяців тому +2

    how is 500 ft of paracord gonna help u get home. were u coming home from the Amazon? overkill for a get home bag

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  10 місяців тому

      Yeah. The Amazon covers a huge area (6.7 million sq km) of South America. Nearly 60% of the rainforest is in Brazil, while the rest is shared among eight other countries-Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Peru, Suriname, Venezuela and French Guiana, an overseas territory of France.

    • @Just_AK23
      @Just_AK23 9 місяців тому +1

      5 Cs of survival. Cordage is one of the Cs. Why not have it and not need it then not have it and need it?

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  9 місяців тому

      @@Just_AK23 I concur!

  • @Sam2sham
    @Sam2sham Рік тому +4

    I'm confused, are you going home or going camping?

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      Yes, in some circumstances, getting home may require camping. Prepare appropriately.

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 Рік тому +1

      Depends on how far home is. I can walk my 20 mile trip. It’s the outer limits though. Some people can be 40 miles or more. Probably not hiking that in a day.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      @@chevy4x466 Agreed. You don’t know where you’ll be when SHTF, but at least you’ll have some comfort in knowing you have some stuff ready to combat a given scenario

    • @Sam2sham
      @Sam2sham Рік тому +1

      I chose to keep items to a minimum to keep weight down. I used a small backpack as an overnight bag with a boy scout knife (can opener important), and no other knives, frogtog poncho for shelter, a minimal survival kit. I live north if Houston, so mist if my walk would be urban, so I won't need any weapons and can use store porches for shelter without building one.
      I think that 100 dollar bills are not as useful as ones and fives, store keepers won't be able to make change. A roll of quarters is a great thing to have.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      @@Sam2sham yes, I agree with you. You sound very prepared for your certain environment and situation in a more urban surrounding. You’re ready where you are which is great. If we can all be a small bit better today than we were yesterday in terms of being prepared, then we are better off for it.

  • @offgridrecon
    @offgridrecon Рік тому +1

    Good info. 👍🏻❤️🇺🇸

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      👊 Appreciate it! Going to check out some of your stuff too - Cool channel! 🇺🇸

    • @offgridrecon
      @offgridrecon Рік тому +1

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance Thanks man! 👍🏻

  • @MyCoolFish
    @MyCoolFish 8 місяців тому +1

    A compass?

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  8 місяців тому +2

      Great point. I have added a lightweight plastic Suunto A-10 NH Compass since I filmed this. Solid addition!

  • @blakebrewton9346
    @blakebrewton9346 9 місяців тому +1

    What is the coldest you have slept in this bag overnight?

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  9 місяців тому +1

      20 degree F range

    • @blakebrewton9346
      @blakebrewton9346 9 місяців тому

      I’m guessing you had a fire?

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  9 місяців тому +1

      @@blakebrewton9346 correct, had a fire in front of lean-to tarp setup to try and reflect some heat, plus mylar blanket. Thanks for watching!

    • @blakebrewton9346
      @blakebrewton9346 9 місяців тому

      What do you use to sleep on top of?

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  9 місяців тому

      @@blakebrewton9346 normally use a camp pad, but with this bag, I just made a little bed of pine boughs, stacked to make it as springy as possible & to insulate a bit from the ground a bit. Not ideal, but good enough in a pinch.

  • @jwaltower5836
    @jwaltower5836 Рік тому +4

    Great Vid, this is a more realistic approach to how a bag should be….. Not like these other UA-cam vids with all that extra junk. 💪🏽 🇺🇸 🙏

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching. Tried to keep the items as streamlined as possible. Appreciate you! 👊🤙🏼

  • @irfanahmed9112
    @irfanahmed9112 Рік тому +2

    It z nt guarantee that to reach safe place😮

  • @Any1SL
    @Any1SL Рік тому +1

    I built my Bivy on a ridgeline and it was falling apart. Sad

  • @clarkkent4991
    @clarkkent4991 Рік тому +1

    👍🏾

  • @HeyLookItsSmith
    @HeyLookItsSmith 8 місяців тому +2

    Could you take a rifle down and store it in the bag?

  • @nozrep
    @nozrep Рік тому +6

    a get home bag is the exact same as a bug out bag. But the phrase, “bug out bag” has, over the last decade, become over used and worn out and unpopular especially now that the zoomers are of age yet still are in need of choosing to be “different” from their genx and millennial elders. Thus, time for a rebranding. A prescient rebranding is in order! And jee golly gosh darn I tell you for what! That is a fantastic new name for it! Bravo! Get home bag. Yes. I will now consciously attempt to forget the phrase bug out bag in favor of get home bag.😂! Yes! Very excellent!

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      Definitely true! A “bug out” bag carries a certain stigma now for some reason. I think mostly due to social media sites throttling anything “preparedness” or “prepper” as extremist. God forbid people be prepared for a worst case scenario!

    • @nozrep
      @nozrep Рік тому +2

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance yes sir and thank you for this great video also!

    • @waitandsee9345
      @waitandsee9345 Рік тому +3

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance but God indeed tells people to prepare their mental for what's coming.
      And during great famine in egypt God told Joseph how to prepare

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +2

      @@waitandsee9345 mental preparation = 👍

    • @mikelgeren149
      @mikelgeren149 Рік тому

      Boomer here , you're all full of shit . Crying shame where survivalism has gone .

  • @Sig_ben2
    @Sig_ben2 Рік тому +1

    Your set up I more like a bugout bag..

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому +1

      Similar thing, bugout bag gets negative connotations as “prepper community” takes some flak. Either way you slice or dice it, best to prepare for a worst case scenario when SHTF. ✔️

  • @everydayadventure7512
    @everydayadventure7512 Рік тому +9

    Grayl seems overpriced for a disposable system imo, terribly short lived filter life in less than pristine water or cold weather. last time I checked them out I noticed they donated to 1% for the planet, interesting group of hypocrites decrying human rights and "environmental impact" on and on.... but grayl products are made in China and the filters are disposable LOL. Looks like they have scrubbed their website of the more extreme groups they used to showcase. Hopefully they are not using money donated from outdoor enthusiasts to strip rights and access to public lands from the people buying their gear.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  Рік тому

      I like it, let your wallet do the talking when it comes to where/who you buy gear from.

  • @shaneluna7428
    @shaneluna7428 6 місяців тому +1

    Less is more.

  • @grayrecluse7496
    @grayrecluse7496 Рік тому +1

    Commercial.

  • @jrnsteen8136
    @jrnsteen8136 9 місяців тому

    This is an american consept and kinda dumb.

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  9 місяців тому

      🇺🇸

    • @jrnsteen8136
      @jrnsteen8136 9 місяців тому

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance still dumb. Ok how many would need anything in that bag ever

    • @RobinsonReconnaissance
      @RobinsonReconnaissance  9 місяців тому +1

      Simple. You can either choose to be prepared for some scenarios or not. I’m ok with you not needing anything.

    • @jrnsteen8136
      @jrnsteen8136 9 місяців тому

      @@RobinsonReconnaissance but why do people have a need for it. Are you afraid of other countries or your own people

    • @antonbriggs5680
      @antonbriggs5680 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@jrnsteen8136 It's called self-reliance you should try it.