I'm 59 Years Old With Nothing Saved For Retirement!

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  • @Mitzi73
    @Mitzi73 5 років тому +5424

    Immigrants come to America for a better life. Retired Americans go to poor countries for a better life.

    • @gaffster787
      @gaffster787 5 років тому +198

      wow, so true..I read it's about 10% of retirees so far

    • @kbthegoat824
      @kbthegoat824 5 років тому +566

      And those immigrants will also return home after they retire from their American jobs...makes no sense to retire in America

    • @kidgreenhorn
      @kidgreenhorn 5 років тому +44

      It's not that much cheaper unless you live in a bodega. Medical care? No medicare overseas.

    • @cristinasv9513
      @cristinasv9513 5 років тому +313

      U r so right. Americans cannot afford to retire here anymore unless u r wealthy. Many of those were anti immigrant when young, but suddenly when they have to retire it's ok to live among immigrants. Very ironic.

    • @waterheaterservices
      @waterheaterservices 5 років тому +120

      Yes... Philippines here I come.

  • @ranger-io5db
    @ranger-io5db 3 роки тому +907

    The thing I love about Dave is that he doesn't beat up on you about your current financial situation. The damage has already done. He's all about resolving the problem.

    • @TheFishdoctor1952
      @TheFishdoctor1952 3 роки тому +15

      I like when the conversation is over and he goes off on how STUPID some people really are. That's the best part of his show to me.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart 3 роки тому +12

      @@TheFishdoctor1952 he goes kinda overboard on that though, especially when he's wrong, not a good look.

    • @luv2cook5
      @luv2cook5 3 роки тому +11

      Sounds like Dave found an opportunity for someone to buy his classes I don't think he's really trying to help her he's looking out for himself.

    • @commonsenseisntcommon1776
      @commonsenseisntcommon1776 2 роки тому +2

      Sometimes he does.....lol

    • @levinav2297
      @levinav2297 2 роки тому +6

      It's never too late when it comes to saving money.

  • @FortuneSeek3rz
    @FortuneSeek3rz 5 років тому +2433

    I come here to listen to people make me feel better about my financials.

  • @ronaldtrunk7944
    @ronaldtrunk7944 3 роки тому +465

    she's actually doing pretty well. there are many who are in a terrible situation with no good job, no house, and building up debt. most people don't start from a 500k home

    • @windsongshf
      @windsongshf 3 роки тому +12

      Agree

    • @bettywith2girls
      @bettywith2girls 3 роки тому +5

      Exactly! I completely agree!

    • @Scorpiomaj27889
      @Scorpiomaj27889 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, in a lot of place you can get a decent small house for $100K, if she can get $200K invested by retirement, a good dividend investment could get her $1500 a month and pray that social insecurity pays halfway decently.

    • @shayemoore
      @shayemoore 3 роки тому +17

      Exactly. She's doing better than most.

    • @richstafford1245
      @richstafford1245 2 роки тому +13

      People don’t realize the financial reality of most people. This is a success story of only the dream world where I come from……

  • @bentleyboy72
    @bentleyboy72 4 роки тому +4278

    Kind of scary that there are people paying this woman 70k a year to do their accounting but she doesn't know how to save her own money.

    • @sirwilliam7948
      @sirwilliam7948 4 роки тому +213

      That's the 1st thing I thought also..

    • @redvisitor9432
      @redvisitor9432 4 роки тому +432

      I took an accounting class awhile back. My professor was $300k in debt. Funny huh.

    • @1HotSkiBunnie
      @1HotSkiBunnie 4 роки тому +783

      Accounting is a set of rules and processes. It has nothing to do with being a good money manager.

    • @bentleyboy72
      @bentleyboy72 4 роки тому +173

      @@1HotSkiBunnie Yeah, and typically those rules and processes are used to manage money correctly. If you can advise someone on how to keep track of their money, but can't keep track of your own, I feel sorry for your clients.

    • @pawsnotclaws2772
      @pawsnotclaws2772 4 роки тому +65

      FishAntsPlantsAndDave I work with a accountant and she’s always putting things on credit cards and saying she’s broke

  • @bryan_witha_whyy
    @bryan_witha_whyy 3 роки тому +568

    Someone with no retirement plan should NOT be paying for anyone’s college.

    • @Marven1k
      @Marven1k 3 роки тому +12

      That’s her kid tf

    • @bryan_witha_whyy
      @bryan_witha_whyy 3 роки тому +135

      @@Marven1k That kid can work and get loans and has 40 years to pay them off. A parent needs to take care of themselves first or else they will be reliant on that kid to survive.

    • @johannesswillery7855
      @johannesswillery7855 3 роки тому +18

      Absolutely right. College will pay off in a huge way for the child. Especially if they are earning the right degree.

    • @pamelacagno2878
      @pamelacagno2878 3 роки тому +58

      Kids need to pay for their own college. Its not the parents responsibility.

    • @bryan_witha_whyy
      @bryan_witha_whyy 3 роки тому +21

      @@pamelacagno2878 I’d say it’s a partnership, but DEFINITELY not if the parent isn’t saving for retirement.

  • @kathleenfarris8710
    @kathleenfarris8710 4 роки тому +1486

    It’s the “Work until you die” retirement plan.

    • @Gonenow2015
      @Gonenow2015 4 роки тому +97

      Hey! That's the one I'm signed up for!

    • @basspig
      @basspig 4 роки тому +73

      Property taxes ensure this is the case.

    • @rocker76m88
      @rocker76m88 4 роки тому +12

      @@Gonenow2015 same!🙋‍♀️

    • @Phlfwlr
      @Phlfwlr 4 роки тому +15

      Kimberley Hammett I can help you with that and anyone else. Dave is sadly not giving you the right information. Getting out of debt yes absolutely, but retirement should not be in the hands of the market.

    • @hi_lo574
      @hi_lo574 4 роки тому +2

      Yep...agree. "shop till we drop" anf "job till we drop"

  • @PamalaClift
    @PamalaClift 4 роки тому +173

    I work the other direction. Divorced at 61 with no savings. Moved from Florida to middle of Utah .Bought a zombie apocalypse house for $47,500. Moved a housemate in. Morgage is $469 month between two social security checks we can live well with no other debt. Chickens and half acre with clean air and water. Two people don’t really need much. No city stress and retired.

    • @Songs-ls2pr
      @Songs-ls2pr 3 роки тому +8

      Good job!!

    • @rickyrick9328
      @rickyrick9328 3 роки тому +1

      lol yeah good job - having a mortgage in your 60's with no savings / emergency money is super-smart.

    • @PeachGirl46
      @PeachGirl46 3 роки тому +4

      @@rickyrick9328 she could live to be 90 so it will be paid for.

    • @christhomas5761
      @christhomas5761 3 роки тому +1

      @@PeachGirl46 lol

    • @Don-hc4gk
      @Don-hc4gk 3 роки тому +3

      How much $$$ did you receive from the divorce? Alimony?

  • @ariefraiser140
    @ariefraiser140 5 років тому +1839

    Surprised Dave didn't tell her to stop cash flowing her daughter's college. I would have considered that.

    • @nikkisultan68
      @nikkisultan68 5 років тому +190

      Arie Fraiser hope her kid appreciates her putting her priorities on hold to help them out with school, and helps her out once she retired. This is so scary. Having no saving at 60.

    • @vgrice850
      @vgrice850 5 років тому +110

      Her daughter should owe it to her mom to make sure she’s taken care of after retirement

    • @juniorj.5108
      @juniorj.5108 5 років тому +50

      Maybe her daughter is going take care of her at the end.

    • @ariefraiser140
      @ariefraiser140 5 років тому +90

      @@nikkisultan68 I paid my way cash through school by working at UPS loading tractor trailers and staying at home with my parents for 3 years. I'm the oldest of 5 and we didn't have the money at the time. My parents told me as long as you're going to school and you're serious about it we will support you with what we can whuch was room and board but I had to figure out the rest. So I picked the cheapsest closest quality university and a stem major that didn't require an ivy league degree to get a good job. This was 1997. Seems today every kid thinks they should go to any college of their choice at any cost even if it means taking out outrageous loans or torpedoing mom's retirement.

    • @marygigot1237
      @marygigot1237 5 років тому +23

      My thought exactly. Makes me think he wasn't completely listening. Should have been his first comment

  • @bertito43
    @bertito43 4 роки тому +405

    If you’re a college student and your broke 60 yr old mother is cash flowing your college you need to grow up and work

    • @Whydoyoureadme
      @Whydoyoureadme 3 роки тому +15

      They are studying to get an education? What do you want them to do? Go out and work as a mailman?

    • @logan_nowicki
      @logan_nowicki 3 роки тому +31

      @@Whydoyoureadme I worked several jobs consistently throughout college, paying for it myself, and I’ve been able to pay off over half my loans in about a year and a half out of school. I don’t get how people aren’t able to work while in school

    • @BR-jf6ez
      @BR-jf6ez 3 роки тому +16

      @@Whydoyoureadme get a job , lots of people work and go to school.. smh 🤦‍♀️

    • @DeathBean89
      @DeathBean89 3 роки тому +8

      @@Whydoyoureadme Deliver pizzas, flip burgers, wait tables, be a cashier at a grocery store, etc. There's tons of stuff you can do part time to earn some money to help pay for school.

    • @Jen.E
      @Jen.E 3 роки тому +17

      I'd never want my mom to struggle and work just to pay for my college.

  • @thomasreedy4751
    @thomasreedy4751 5 років тому +846

    The sad part is that having to downsize so drastically is psychologically defeating.
    People need to realize that physical possessions have nothing to so with your self-worth.

    • @Fishouta
      @Fishouta 5 років тому +38

      It doesnt have to be psychologically defeating if you have the right mindset...that it is a stage of the bigger plan. Kind of like dieting to reach a health goal.

    • @verisimilitudeteller
      @verisimilitudeteller 5 років тому +43

      Comes down to, do you want a fantastic house and eat dogfood at 80 or do you want to live in a moderately older house and eat like a human? Gotta always look at the dark side to see why it's worth suffering a little today to not suffer a lot tomorrow.

    • @RLSCS
      @RLSCS 5 років тому +25

      She already sounded psychologically defeated by the end of the call. I think what Dave said was a hard pill for her to swallow.

    • @EyeAmCoa
      @EyeAmCoa 5 років тому +1

      Thomas Reedy absolutely

    • @CrackberryMe
      @CrackberryMe 5 років тому +1

      Thomas Reedy Exactly right

  • @Janiquejay
    @Janiquejay 5 місяців тому +1881

    I am at the beginning of my "investment journey", planning to put 85K into dividend stocks so that I will be making up to 30% per year in dividend returns. Any advice?

    • @romeoLucia189
      @romeoLucia189 5 місяців тому +1

      )How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.

    • @LilianaAgnes
      @LilianaAgnes 5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for this tip. it was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her résumé.

    • @lmk0799
      @lmk0799 4 місяці тому +15

      There arent companies out there that pay 30% in dividends.

    • @pjm3005
      @pjm3005 4 місяці тому

      @@lmk0799 QQQY, TSLY, NVD/NVDQ, TSL, CONY....

    • @KameHouse23
      @KameHouse23 4 місяці тому

      @@lmk0799I think he’s talking total dividends

  • @gregpatton7266
    @gregpatton7266 5 років тому +94

    This makes me feel REALLY bad. I'm 59 and have lots of debt, small income and NO savings. In comparison to me, she is in great shape.

    • @waterheaterservices
      @waterheaterservices 5 років тому +2

      @John What part of Nigeria or Russia or India ?

    • @krisa2680
      @krisa2680 2 роки тому

      EXACTLY

    • @sheilawiggins8890
      @sheilawiggins8890 2 роки тому +10

      I agree. Do people really have to have millions to retire? These financial advisers get on my nerves,

    • @georgewagner7787
      @georgewagner7787 2 роки тому +4

      No, they don't, I will retire at 62 but I am sick. He is trying to give her the best advice since she is healthy and can work until 70.

    • @last_samurai6690
      @last_samurai6690 2 роки тому +6

      @@sheilawiggins8890 I don't think so. If you are in a country with social security for retirees or pension, I think IF your house is paid off so you don't pay rent, you can do well with less than a million.

  • @mason114932
    @mason114932 3 роки тому +52

    I did this. I sold my high price DC home and moved to Williamsburg, Va, and bought a house for 1/2 the price. BEST decision! A lot less stressed

    • @EAAAA1505
      @EAAAA1505 3 роки тому +1

      I live in MD. I went to dc clubbing over the weekend. Two people came out of the club bleeding whole I was in line and the roads where very crowded and seemed very unsafe. I felt like I was in Baltimore. DC is trash now. Great move.

    • @CoffeeTeaWithSusan
      @CoffeeTeaWithSusan 3 роки тому +1

      I love Williamsburg VA… great choice.

  • @davidwinckel1303
    @davidwinckel1303 5 років тому +303

    Im 53 and have a net worth of only $55000. I had a wake-up call at 50 when I realised I had a net worth of $1000. I wont retire a millionaire but will have a lot more than at 50 before changing my money habits.

    • @girlygirl1890
      @girlygirl1890 5 років тому +37

      David Winckel congrats to you. I think that is awesome. You should definitely give yourself a pat on the back for coming such a long way. And ...in only 3 years? I know that took some decipline. Tell me....what did you do to get to where you are now? There are soooooooo many people in your 50 year old situation. You've come a long way and I'm wishing you continued wellness and prosperity.

    • @DreamChaser415
      @DreamChaser415 5 років тому +12

      How did you do that in 3yrs?

    • @indigosun9891
      @indigosun9891 5 років тому +5

      Please share, how did you do it?

    • @fabulouslifeinchrist1349
      @fabulouslifeinchrist1349 5 років тому +7

      I bet extra hustle and/or cutting expenses. I am working on getting another job with more hours and getting a side hustle growing

    • @GabrielRosas1985
      @GabrielRosas1985 4 роки тому +3

      You’re gonna do great!

  • @reesecup6915
    @reesecup6915 3 роки тому +60

    Dave could you start a teenage channel that teenagers can relate to, in order to get them started on the right track?

    • @CoffeeTeaWithSusan
      @CoffeeTeaWithSusan 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly!

    • @tonyaukeh7915
      @tonyaukeh7915 3 роки тому +1

      he has a program and it's taught in some high schools

    • @aiyshantigreen4164
      @aiyshantigreen4164 3 роки тому +1

      Oooo that sounds like a great idea!

    • @matthewgardner2144
      @matthewgardner2144 3 роки тому +2

      But maybe have a younger person run it, like one of his kids or something. It would be a hard sell for teenagers to relate to hard-of-hearing, rage-y Dave.

  • @Justmyopinionlol
    @Justmyopinionlol 5 років тому +794

    A homeless guy told me he retired 10 years ago.

    • @marierika2012
      @marierika2012 4 роки тому +20

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @HC_8
      @HC_8 4 роки тому +13

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      funny af

    • @justintimemagddelow672
      @justintimemagddelow672 4 роки тому +27

      I believe you. Homeless people are hustlers!

    • @percyastronautstatus.8780
      @percyastronautstatus.8780 4 роки тому +15

      I' was that homeless guy. .....I had to go back to work....spent all my money on young girls

    • @fabulouslifeinchrist1349
      @fabulouslifeinchrist1349 4 роки тому

      @@percyastronautstatus.8780 now you going to have to work again ...smart move..lol

  • @staceyconnor725
    @staceyconnor725 5 місяців тому +261

    You retire from work, not life.

    • @theresaquiera7412
      @theresaquiera7412 5 місяців тому

      I have a new set of dreams for my post-retirement life.

    • @viniciusantonio8213
      @viniciusantonio8213 5 місяців тому

      By planning in advance, you can define the path to achieve several life goals without any financial dependence.

    • @durhammiller8817
      @durhammiller8817 5 місяців тому

      An expert retirement planner like Timothy Eric Meek maintains my day to day lifestyle without worrying about expenses.

    • @rosannaconstil571
      @rosannaconstil571 5 місяців тому

      How can i reach him please, someone with his qualities can do wonders.

    • @princeholgate9325
      @princeholgate9325 5 місяців тому +1

      Just doing a normal online search of name will be helpful.

  • @TsholofeloEdunBaloyi
    @TsholofeloEdunBaloyi 2 роки тому +47

    I’m really glad and grateful to God to have people like Dave. I’m 36 years old, nothing saved, working hard to get myself up. It’s people like you who make it possible for people like us to know that we can get back up. All the way from South Africa 🇿🇦
    God bless you sir!

    • @rose-marielewis4717
      @rose-marielewis4717 2 роки тому +3

      God bless you too and hope everything goes well for you in the future. Wishing you health and wealth.x

  • @christopherpaige406
    @christopherpaige406 4 роки тому +258

    Stop cash-flowing your adult child, live below your means. You dont NEED a house at a certain price range, you NEED a roof over your head.

    • @lynny5510
      @lynny5510 3 роки тому +7

      I learned that lesson the hard way.

    • @laurensquires6324
      @laurensquires6324 3 роки тому +2

      Agreeeee

    • @TheFishdoctor1952
      @TheFishdoctor1952 3 роки тому +1

      That is basically what Dave told her. Did you not listen to the whole video?

    • @christopherpaige406
      @christopherpaige406 3 роки тому +9

      @@TheFishdoctor1952 yes i did and no he didnt. Did you not read my FULL statement?

    • @Pakkerotten
      @Pakkerotten 3 роки тому +2

      Amen too that

  • @collinw1353
    @collinw1353 4 роки тому +285

    I'm 53 and moving to a paid for small house/cabin with my partner in a very beautiful part of our country. We have no debts and can easily live comfortably on our pensions when those kick in. We will be living with the basics but we be in a beautiful place and have each other. Expensive lifestyles and material things are overrated. Get off the grid and live cheaply. Focus on love and mental well being.

    • @pb577
      @pb577 4 роки тому +23

      Sorry, you had me until the "get off the grid" part. I need the grid. and air conditioning. and internet. and of course, ya gotta flush. I don't need a lot of fancy things, but those things I do need. Oh and my hubby. I need him most of all. :)

    • @paultappenden4337
      @paultappenden4337 4 роки тому +5

      That's our plan too...
      We are saving, and maximizing everything. But, we have no intentions of working long hours, when were are older.
      We want semi retirement early, with part time jobs, because we both like to work.
      But all we need is "A view, and a coffee maker"....and time with each other.

    • @davidjohnston714
      @davidjohnston714 3 роки тому +5

      @@pb577 You can still be financially independent without being on the grid don't worry! Both life styles are good if you can save money imo

    • @realtonysolo
      @realtonysolo 3 роки тому +6

      Better to go to a small town with less than 50k people.

    • @sheilaghmalone3053
      @sheilaghmalone3053 3 роки тому

      s

  • @KuyaPow626
    @KuyaPow626 4 роки тому +94

    Dave is really uplifting in the way he always has a confident plan no matter how upsetting your situation may be. It makes me feel like theres always a light at the end of the tunnel when his perspective shows that there IS a solution out there, and here are the steps.

  • @arthrodea
    @arthrodea 5 років тому +1056

    This is making the HUGE assumption she will be healthy and able to work until age 75.

    • @caseyj5597
      @caseyj5597 5 років тому +90

      Sickness and death can happen at ANY age so let's be optimistic that she will be healthy and able to work at 75.

    • @SelimxBradley
      @SelimxBradley 5 років тому +79

      @@caseyj5597 I'd rather be realistic and see that the average life expectancy in the US is 78 years old for a woman. Depressing thought that you'll be able to retire for 4 years before you die.

    • @caseyj5597
      @caseyj5597 5 років тому +10

      @@SelimxBradley The original comment wasn't about working and dying it was about health and being able to work which does not depend on age.

    • @AmandaHugenkiss2915
      @AmandaHugenkiss2915 5 років тому +101

      My mom never saved a dime even though my wife and I told her, back when we were teens and still dating, to do the 401k and kept telling her for over 20 years. Eventually she got laid off @60. Then health problems set in and she could no longer stand long hours in retail so she took SS at 62 and lives like a pauper. Mom always let life happen. She never made anything happen. Don't be like Mom.

    • @shannon2748
      @shannon2748 5 років тому +64

      @@caseyj5597 My dad is 75 and can still do yard work, etc. Not everyone is out of shape and haggard at 75. Plenty of 20 somethings are out of shape.

  • @BenTodd-fl8nv
    @BenTodd-fl8nv 4 місяці тому +713

    I'm a 48-year-old doctor feeling burnt out and have never invested in a retirement portfolio due to fears of economic collapse. Planning to retire soon, I'm curious: If you had $100k to invest safely in stocks over 4-5 years, how would you start?

    • @Theresaa12
      @Theresaa12 4 місяці тому +2

      I believe a healthy portfolio has 3 things, at the bare minimum: Exposure to ETFs for increased diversification, Exposure to assets that generate cash flow like dividend stocks, Exposure to market-leading tech.

    • @RickWatson-xu6gw
      @RickWatson-xu6gw 4 місяці тому +2

      It's unfortunate most people don't have such information. I don't really blame people who panic. Lack of information can be a big hurdle. I've been making more than $30k passively by just investing through an advisor, and I don't have to do much work. Doesn't matter if the economy is misbehaving; great wealth managers will always make returns.

    • @judynewsom1902
      @judynewsom1902 4 місяці тому +2

      I've been looking to get one, but have been kind of relaxed about it. Could you recommend your advis0r? I'll be happy to use some help.

    • @RickWatson-xu6gw
      @RickWatson-xu6gw 4 місяці тому +1

      That would be *Sharon Lynne Hart* You should look her up. I say, to be honest I almost didn't think I should have, but I'm glad I decided to let someone handle growing my finances.

    • @HarrisRyan-oy8eo
      @HarrisRyan-oy8eo 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! I entered her full name into my browser, and her website came out on top. I filled her form and i hope she gets back to me soon.

  • @austinpatrick2682
    @austinpatrick2682 5 років тому +51

    Even when the person's situation doesn't relate to mine at all I still enjoy watching Dave solve the puzzle and make a plan. No matter what your profession, problem solvers succeed.

  • @graywilliams_77.
    @graywilliams_77. 9 місяців тому +245

    I think this is something I should do, but I've been stalling for a long time now. I don't really know which firm to work with; I feel they are all the same but it seems you’ve got it all worked out with the firm you work with so i surely wouldn’t mind a recommendation.

    • @susannicky
      @susannicky 9 місяців тому

      You know Jenny Pamogas Canaya, i work with her also

  • @tx2sturgis
    @tx2sturgis 3 роки тому +38

    Living in places where the water and the land meet is always going to be expensive....out here in the sticks a $200,000 home is a frikkin palace!

  • @localone1597
    @localone1597 3 роки тому +47

    First thing I would suggest, and I'm no financial planner, but the daughter needs to be looking for scholarships. She needs to make it her job to find as much money as possible.

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance 5 років тому +339

    Well, to be fair, she built up a lot of equity in her house which she recently cashed out so she did a lot more than many at her age. 300K at 59 isn't great but it's better than most.

    • @locchau405
      @locchau405 5 років тому +11

      For someone who does bookkeeping, she’s an idiot. I feel bad for her clients.

    • @jeffnoble1218
      @jeffnoble1218 5 років тому +2

      FACTS

    • @jdlc903
      @jdlc903 4 роки тому +26

      @@locchau405 is everyone supposed to be a millionaire at 59 ?

    • @kimjong-un5562
      @kimjong-un5562 4 роки тому +4

      @@jdlc903 if u can save/invest around 700k by the time ur 45 u can then stop saving and watch ur 700k grow to around 2 million dollars .

    • @kimjong-un5562
      @kimjong-un5562 4 роки тому +1

      @peter d 2.2m invested should gross around 80-100k in interesr

  • @BigORat
    @BigORat 5 років тому +64

    After the kids grow up and move out, you don't need a big house.
    Most people downsize after the kids leave.

    • @doorguru168888
      @doorguru168888 9 місяців тому

      If you try to downsize in South Florida, you end up living in a bad neighborhood.

    • @sm3675
      @sm3675 Місяць тому

      ​@doorguru168888 1 bed apartments from the 50's are very cheap.

  • @LindaLane01
    @LindaLane01 5 місяців тому +20

    Amazing. “THIS IS HOW I ACQUIRE WEALTH”

    • @LindaLane01
      @LindaLane01 5 місяців тому

      The first step to attaining wealth is figuring out your goaIs and risk toIerance - either on your own or with the heIp of a financiaI pIanner, and foIIowing through with an inteIIigent pIan, you wiII gain financiaI growth over the years and enjoy the benefits of managing your money.

    • @LindaLane01
      @LindaLane01 5 місяців тому

      I am fortunate I made productive decisions that changed my finances (gathered over 1M in 2years) through my financiaI planner. Got my 2nd house in Feb, and hoping to retire soon.

    • @LindaLane01
      @LindaLane01 5 місяців тому

      *G. M. A. l. L*

    • @LindaLane01
      @LindaLane01 5 місяців тому +1

      *EIizabethgreenhunts*

    • @robira1313
      @robira1313 3 місяці тому

      First? Get a million dollars.

  • @Jamesdave-g6m
    @Jamesdave-g6m 3 місяці тому +778

    I came across your channel through this video-case studies are incredibly valuable, and I'm eager to see more in the future! Building wealth involves establishing routines, like consistently setting aside funds at regular intervals for smart investments.

    • @Beckylouis-c4c
      @Beckylouis-c4c 3 місяці тому

      Uncertainty... it took me 5 years to stop trying to predict what bout to happen in market based on charts studying, cause you never know. not having a mentor cost me 5 years of pain I learn to go we’re the market is wanting to go and keep it simple with discipline.

    • @Mongarnsamuel
      @Mongarnsamuel 3 місяці тому

      This aligns perfectly with my desire to organize my finances prior to retirement. Could you provide me with access to your advisor?

    • @Beckylouis-c4c
      @Beckylouis-c4c 3 місяці тому

      NICOLE ANASTASIA PLUMLEE is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @Mongarnsamuel
      @Mongarnsamuel 3 місяці тому

      She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

  • @Mike-lh4wn
    @Mike-lh4wn 4 роки тому +265

    Title is misleading. She has almost 300k in cash from the sale of her home. Just bank that, rent a nice 1BR condo, continue to work/save normally til retirement, and you are golden.

    • @openyourmind2840
      @openyourmind2840 4 роки тому +15

      Mike S I would probably buy a 125 k house since it’s only her; then move 20k in savings for emergency’s and move the rest into mutual funds.

    • @anyexpat
      @anyexpat 4 роки тому +17

      So she retires, does not own her house and lives for 25 years paying rent with what?

    • @Peppermon22
      @Peppermon22 4 роки тому +5

      Bobby Good idea. Rent will only go up and up.

    • @InsidiousDr9
      @InsidiousDr9 4 роки тому +10

      Renting is just paying someone else's mortgage.

    • @rottenejl1
      @rottenejl1 4 роки тому +2

      @@InsidiousDr9 No, stop spreading this

  • @brianwhitehawker1756
    @brianwhitehawker1756 2 місяці тому +971

    Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Instead of trying to predict and prognosticate the stability of the market and precisely when the change is going to happen, a better strategy is simply having a portfolio that’s well prepared for any eventually, that’s how some folks' been averaging 150K every 7week these past 4months according to Bloomberg.

    • @MyersRadfordKeith
      @MyersRadfordKeith 2 місяці тому

      The professionals presently control the market since they not only have the essential business strategy but also have access to inside information that the general public is not aware of.

    • @yeslahykcim
      @yeslahykcim 2 місяці тому

      I wholeheartedly concur; I'm 60 years old, just retired, and have about $1,250,000 in non-retirement assets. Compared to the whole value of my portfolio during the last three years, I have no debt and a very little amount of money in retirement accounts. To be completely honest, the information provided by invt-advisors can only be ignored but not neglected. Simply undertake research to choose a trustworthy one.

    • @Jadechurch-ql3do
      @Jadechurch-ql3do 2 місяці тому

      Mind if I ask you to recommend this particular coach you using their service? Seems you've figured it all out.

    • @yeslahykcim
      @yeslahykcim 2 місяці тому

      Her name is. 'Lucinda Margaret Crist’. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

    • @codeblue11
      @codeblue11 2 місяці тому

      Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find your handler, She seems very proficient and flexible. I booked a call session with her.

  • @Sabres16
    @Sabres16 3 роки тому +125

    Dang,a $200K paid for home,$90K to invest,and a job paying $70K. I would be able to actually sleep at night.

    • @mikewillett5076
      @mikewillett5076 Рік тому +8

      I know, right?! If I had that "problem" I'd be doing cartwheels!

    • @April19622
      @April19622 Рік тому +4

      Exactly, I wish I had her problem!

    • @martycech5844
      @martycech5844 Рік тому +5

      And… she can Stop paying for her child’s college!

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 Рік тому

      @@martycech5844if she raised her child well, her daughter would not take her mothers money.

    • @sujanrimal8539
      @sujanrimal8539 9 місяців тому

      @@sarahjaynescott545if you make that long govt will help you with everything

  • @noisehonk
    @noisehonk 3 роки тому +85

    She was not happy about the idea of living in a 200K house. Clearly been living life to the fullest (leased cars, expensive home) and this was a tough pill to swallow

    • @lovelife7740
      @lovelife7740 3 роки тому

      So true

    • @jshepard152
      @jshepard152 Рік тому +5

      She's lucky I didn't answer the call. I'd have told her to move to a cheaper area and find a $100k condo.

    • @crispyduck1706
      @crispyduck1706 8 місяців тому

      maybe but at least she lived

    • @robira1313
      @robira1313 3 місяці тому

      yeah...and stop paying for your kids' college!

  • @arthrodea
    @arthrodea 5 років тому +431

    How did Dave not tell her to stop paying for her daughters college!??

    • @Fishouta
      @Fishouta 5 років тому +28

      I think he forgot. Happens.

    • @kaseycentanni753
      @kaseycentanni753 5 років тому +36

      ever notice he doesn’t follow along too well with these callers ?

    • @brm3355
      @brm3355 5 років тому +5

      @@kaseycentanni753 yup

    • @greenAbbot
      @greenAbbot 5 років тому +22

      I think he wanted to keep the focus on the goals--where she needed to be in 15 years and what that meant going forward. If she's really cash-flowing it, it can't be that expensive, and in any event at this point she's made a promise to her daughter. I've made it very clear to our kids how much of college we will pay for, but once they've chosen their college based on that I'm not going to switch in mid-stream and say "Oh, sorry, but you're now forced to take on a bunch of debt because *I* didn't plan ahead."

    • @randymorrison1761
      @randymorrison1761 5 років тому +17

      It does not matter
      She has enough to pay her daughters college and still retire with a million
      She has nearly 300,000 in the bank

  • @TopShot501st
    @TopShot501st Рік тому +105

    The irony of a bookkeeper with no retirement at 59 with a car lease is not lost on me.

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 Рік тому +2

      That is what the system teaches these days. Debt is good

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 8 місяців тому

      @@geocam2 ya, it is a sad state of affairs. We have our home paid off. But raising kids has taken our last nickel every month. And we both have good jobs. Inflation is making things interesting for sure. I predict a rough future for basically all

    • @bryan_witha_whyy
      @bryan_witha_whyy 7 місяців тому +2

      Many bookkeepers are crappy with finances.

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 7 місяців тому

      I have 2 more payments on our house 😃. Sadly, we r getting crushed by inflation in our family. We have combined income of 150k, but our household has been running a deficit the last few months. I can only imagine what is happening to most of our neighbors. I am 53 and have never seen anything like this.

  • @schlooonginator1227
    @schlooonginator1227 5 років тому +418

    Why would a single retiree need a house?
    Buy a condo, a nice condo with little to zero maintenance andhave some cash.

    • @CarbonJackal13
      @CarbonJackal13 4 роки тому +36

      Most condos have what are called HOA fees. Imagine your mortgage is $1,500 a month taxes are $300 a month and HOA is $300 a month. Now instead of only paying $1,800 a month to live somewhere you're paying $2,100 a month. Or, $21,600/yr vs $25,200/yr as an older person which would you rather pay?

    • @bettysmith7045
      @bettysmith7045 4 роки тому +23

      @@CarbonJackal13 the point is if you sell a house you can more easily cash flow a house, so they would have no mortgage and would only pay the taxes and HOA. The average rent is 1400 plus now, so buying a condo with cash is FAR better than renting. Most people will run out of money renting before they die.

    • @MikeBarbarossa
      @MikeBarbarossa 4 роки тому +12

      @@bettysmith7045 Let's do some figures:
      instead of buying a 200k home, I'm investing the 200K and renting
      Rent 1600/mo - 800 savings saving from renting (No taxes, insurance, HOA, or upkeep needed) = 800/mo more to rent than own home
      800/mo = 9600/yr
      200K investment - 5% return = 10000/yr
      by investing the 200K and renting instead of buying a 200K home, the investment made up the higher cost of rent as opposed to maintaining a paid for house. But in the rent example, you have 200K and in the other you don't. It works late in life
      So the 200

    • @OfftoShambala
      @OfftoShambala 4 роки тому +2

      In her area a nice little condo is probably around 250... but that would leave her with a little money to start playing the mutual fund game, but not a lot

    • @Darltk
      @Darltk 4 роки тому +1

      @Carol Howard Good plan!

  • @zacharyesparza9300
    @zacharyesparza9300 4 роки тому +126

    I’m 21 and I’ve started 2 separate retirement accounts. I feel grateful that I’ve started early and don’t have to run into these types of issues.

    • @julhe8743
      @julhe8743 4 роки тому +11

      Good for you, make sure one is ROTH IRA.

    • @mysteriousjz
      @mysteriousjz 4 роки тому +9

      Lol.... yeah it's too early, wait till life will bog you down and will look back and regret how fool you were to be over confident

    • @zacharyesparza9300
      @zacharyesparza9300 4 роки тому +26

      @@mysteriousjz not sure if it’s a diss or not to starting early but I feel I’d rather be “too early” than “too late”

    • @kathleenhazy6126
      @kathleenhazy6126 3 роки тому +22

      I’ll give you a glimpse into the future with the current choice you made. My husband, fresh out of college, started investing in a 401k with his first job. He had little expenses so he was able to put a decent amount, plus a company match, into it. Because he started young, he continues to invest and the contributions aren’t painful. He’s put himself into position now for a 3million+ retirement account, somewhere in his early 60’s. He’s 45, and has a way to go but his financial future is solid. You’re young, life will undoubtedly throw you some curves, just keep investing, even if it is small at times. Believe me, you’ll be thanking your younger self for a very smart and wise decision. Best of luck to you.

    • @zacharyesparza9300
      @zacharyesparza9300 3 роки тому +7

      @@kathleenhazy6126 Thabk you Kathleen for the words of wisdom! It’s always great to hear a perspective from someone with more experience.

  • @SirPokemonX
    @SirPokemonX 5 років тому +154

    Bless your heart Dave.
    My dad is 59 in construction and needed to hear there is still hope. Love what you are doing for so
    Many

    • @sunnyrob5176
      @sunnyrob5176 5 років тому +8

      Cody Ackles there is still hope! 60 is NOT old. I work with people in their 70s and early 80s even!

    • @lorrainea.285
      @lorrainea.285 5 років тому +5

      Sixty is OLD AF!!!!!

    • @SirPokemonX
      @SirPokemonX 5 років тому +4

      @@lorrainea.285 In the construction field yes. Overall. Hopefully not.

    • @timmiller6540
      @timmiller6540 5 років тому +11

      60 is not old at all if you have been excerciseing and eating healthy.

    • @miniliebenberg9644
      @miniliebenberg9644 5 років тому +3

      Cody Ackles 59 is the new 49 ;)

  • @trailrunnah8886
    @trailrunnah8886 5 років тому +87

    I don't get the obsession with owning a home, especially not "moving up in house" in one's mid 60's. I agree with all the small apartments and senior living comments. Even with zero mortgage, houses can be money pits.

    • @willgaukler8979
      @willgaukler8979 5 років тому +10

      ....just when you get to retire and just play house...you either get sick or just no longer can keep up with the property...ready for a nice condo soon...

    • @carylhalfwassen8555
      @carylhalfwassen8555 4 роки тому +4

      Michael Smith In the area where she is living now she needs hurricane insurance which is hefty, in addition to standard home insurance

    • @irishcladdagh3
      @irishcladdagh3 4 роки тому +15

      I dont ever want to own a home...too much of a commitment and huge cost aside from mortage....im 50 single live in a studio apt and only have student loans to pay...no mortage no car payments no credit card debt live below my means and I only make 20k a yr...I keep an emergency fund always and just pay my monthly bills and student loan payment and every month I still have enough to save on the side 💜

    • @nealinnc
      @nealinnc 4 роки тому +21

      I could never live in an apartment. I don't want to live on top under or next to anyone. My house will be paid for when I retire. Taxes insurance and maintenance will still be less than the cost of a nice apartment. My kids and grandkids and their families can come visit and we are comfortable.

    • @laurenandreas5950
      @laurenandreas5950 3 роки тому +7

      @Erin K ...A Condo also has equity. I’m sick of people buying a house and being too lazy to keep up the house or yard but “They want a house”!!! They bring down the whole neighborhood! If you don’t like yard work, Please buy a condo!!!

  • @jordanruth0809
    @jordanruth0809 5 років тому +20

    I’m 44 and I’m going to apply this plan now so I can better plan for my family and myself. Good advice. I hope she adheres to this because I sure have.

  • @ronaldbeck1762
    @ronaldbeck1762 4 роки тому +191

    Retirement is about planning.
    In the first few weeks of my first job a older co-worker gave me some advise.
    He said " only work at a job with good retirement benefits " ... I listened and retired at 59.

    • @armybeef68
      @armybeef68 3 роки тому +9

      You can't plan if you've never made good money your entire working career

    • @MrLeomelton
      @MrLeomelton 3 роки тому +12

      @@armybeef68 sadly that excuse and mindset will keep you in the same situation. Starting off investing small amounts is better than nothing. Go search for local meetups or online groups for beginner investors to listen to there ideas plus hear the same concerns you have. Start a Roth IRA....50 bucks a month is better than nothing. I would get a part time job....if you just invested 1/3rd of each paycheck, snowball effect will happen eventually. Talk to someone about pros and cons of a cash value life insurance policy WITH guarantees. Please dont put this off any longer.

    • @ronaldbeck1762
      @ronaldbeck1762 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrLeomelton ... Well said ...

    • @leomelton8939
      @leomelton8939 3 роки тому +1

      @@ronaldbeck1762 thanks. i hear this scenario often as an insurnance and annuities agent. baffles me how someone can be 50 and have NOTHING in place for a nest egg & just let senior life just pop up around the corner.

    • @Buggu3
      @Buggu3 3 роки тому +7

      One shoe don’t fit all…. I left a job wit pension n medical for my mental health n happiness

  • @jeffgraver7205
    @jeffgraver7205 4 роки тому +29

    I have a reoccurring nightmare about this every week and I’m only 30. So glad I watched this video to know I won’t be in this ladies shoes at 59

  • @dexterm1285
    @dexterm1285 5 років тому +156

    I feel many people people will be in same situation at 59 unfortunately.

    • @JonnyBeoulve
      @JonnyBeoulve 5 років тому +22

      For millennials it's going to be a huge catastrophe. Most of my friends are still in debt in their early 30s and aren't investing.

    • @leahmcdermott4189
      @leahmcdermott4189 5 років тому +4

      JonnyBeoulve Depends what kind of debt you’re in and what country you’re in. Most people still have student loan debt in their 30’s. I’m from the UK and 83% of students will never repay they’re full student loan and will carry them until they die, but that’s because the conditions are different here. Minimum payments here are nothing (around 10-£125 monthly typically) and you don’t pay until you earn over 25K a year and if your income falls below that, repayments stop. The way it’s designed, you’re not really ‘meant’ to pay it back fully. I believe they don’t want you to. So I’m good as long as I’m completely debt free (minus the student loan) 🤷‍♀️.

    • @93mlo
      @93mlo 5 років тому +6

      @NurturingTalents why no student loan debt at 30s tuition is going to increase again next year so how are people expective to not have student loan at 30s if tuition and cost of living keep increasing while wages remain low?

    • @camillemurphy73
      @camillemurphy73 5 років тому +1

      @@93mlo Exactly!

    • @leahv5892
      @leahv5892 5 років тому +2

      Dexter M. People will be in WORSE situations at 59.

  • @sharonwilliams271
    @sharonwilliams271 5 років тому +358

    Shes in denial of what she can accomplish with her income. She cant afford to do this plan and cash flow her daughters education. A small condo is more practical for her income and age. Shes not going to feel like doing yardwork in her 70s.

    • @waterswaters1705
      @waterswaters1705 5 років тому +3

      That sounds like a great plan.

    • @sunnyrob5176
      @sunnyrob5176 5 років тому +15

      Exactly. I have to do the same thing (small condo). Do I like it? Not really but I know I’ll get used to it and will eventually come to love my place.

    • @rebeccashields9626
      @rebeccashields9626 5 років тому +1

      100%

    • @sunnyrob5176
      @sunnyrob5176 5 років тому +34

      Sir We Are About to Die 😂 my mother lived to be 98 and worked until she was 82 (willingly). 60 is Not Old, unless you have a miserable attitude 😉

    • @46monkeyes
      @46monkeyes 5 років тому +3

      Sharon Williams -Absolutely correct!

  • @wetcrow_com
    @wetcrow_com 4 роки тому +45

    I retired and moved to the Philippines 8 months ago. I only use 1/3 of my pension money. My female partner and I also started a small grocery store and in 7 months already bought an income producing property that will be paid off in 5 years. I sold my car in the US and bought a tricycle in the Philippines, mainly for carrying groceries that we sell from the distributor. With the lockdowns, it was better to be busy than sitting on our duff. We meet people every day and enjoy life every day. I also do contract programming remotely and make more money, which I use to pay off the real estate. I purchased a house for under $10K, so expenses are very low. Yes, you have many options.

    • @girlygirl1890
      @girlygirl1890 3 роки тому +6

      Tom Psillas wow. I am happy for you and your partner that you are able to thrive. Thank you for leaving your post to let people know that yes...there are ways to make it work on low income. Thank you and blessings to you. : )

    • @bobparona6543
      @bobparona6543 3 роки тому +2

      Awesome bro

    • @pep590
      @pep590 2 роки тому +1

      Way to go Tom!

  • @rfdagreat9207
    @rfdagreat9207 5 років тому +308

    She makes $70,000 and is crying broke. I’m scared to know what she calls we’ll-off.

    • @paulfly3121
      @paulfly3121 5 років тому +21

      She is paying a mortgage on a half-million dollar house. There just isn't much left of a $70,000 dollar per year income after the mortgage is paid... In many places you can live quite well on $70,000 a year, but not in that neighborhood!

    • @dalekelly7639
      @dalekelly7639 5 років тому +29

      She never said she was broke - just that she had nothing saved for retirement.

    • @redcomic619
      @redcomic619 4 роки тому +16

      Where I live $70k lands you in the 1%. I know what true poverty is.

    • @chrisnob504
      @chrisnob504 4 роки тому +5

      It's about how much u save you could make a million a year but if you spend a million a year there you go

    • @OfftoShambala
      @OfftoShambala 4 роки тому +12

      She doesn’t sound like she’s crying to me... she sounds like she’s questioning whether she should put all her cash into a house or put it into an IRA. Where do you hear the crying part?

  • @nightreader1264
    @nightreader1264 4 роки тому +31

    I did not even think about retiring until: my house was payed off and I qualified for my state pension.

  • @BusyBodyVisa
    @BusyBodyVisa 4 роки тому +165

    She's the perfect example of keeping up with the Jones' she could've had over a million dollars in her retirement account by now.

    • @ironmonkey1512
      @ironmonkey1512 3 роки тому +16

      what single person thinks they need a 400k house and has 70k income

    • @bbrad628
      @bbrad628 3 роки тому +1

      Eat, drink, and be merry!

    • @G31mR
      @G31mR 3 роки тому +2

      @@ironmonkey1512 Keep in mind that some areas, as Dave said, a $400K house might be a small shack. Don't know if Florida is an area where that is true, but it may be.

    • @factsoverfeelings421
      @factsoverfeelings421 3 роки тому +3

      @@G31mR So she should move.

    • @BusyBodyVisa
      @BusyBodyVisa 3 роки тому +2

      @@G31mR if she were in California I'd buy that but not in Florida. No, she's a poser plain and simple. Now she's paying for it.

  • @Aziz__0
    @Aziz__0 Рік тому +104

    I admire the financial independence of people, But you can live better if you work a little more. After watching this I think there are people out there, on the extreme, who plan to die early just to be able to retire early. To each their own but to me retirement isn't just about not having to work, it's about having the freedom to do whatever you might reasonably want, such as travel, buying things, enjoying life, etc. I don't think I could retire with less than $3m in income generating investments, maybe $2m at the very minimum. I plan to work until I'm at least 45.

    • @DreamweaverShade-h9p
      @DreamweaverShade-h9p Рік тому +2

      Nobody knows anything, you need to create your own process, manage risk and stick to the plan, through thick or thin while also continuously learning from mistakes and improving

    • @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j
      @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j Рік тому +1

      @@DreamweaverShade-h9p A lot of folks downplay the role of advisors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for license advisors and came across someone of due diligence, helped a lot to grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to approx. $850k so far.

    • @Tsunaniis-j5l
      @Tsunaniis-j5l Рік тому +1

      @@MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j I really need professional aid because I'm close to retirement and my portfolio is down over 15% just in the past month alone. It's been that way for the majority of 2022. Could you please suggest this coach to me?

    • @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j
      @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j Рік тому +3

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    • @Tsunaniis-j5l
      @Tsunaniis-j5l Рік тому

      @@MakeamericaGreatagain-h7jI just checked her out and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

  • @smacdiesel
    @smacdiesel 5 років тому +32

    My mother was in a similar situation. She worked her whole life and died at 75, no retirement. I didn't know until after she passed, but the only real investment she made was a life insurance policy that went to me and my brother. Thanks mom.

    • @queenofdahouse1591
      @queenofdahouse1591 4 роки тому +6

      smacdiesel You have my sympathy. Happy she provided for her children.

    • @jeffrichey3623
      @jeffrichey3623 2 роки тому +20

      Well, you can't take it with you. That she looked out for her kids as a primary concern in life shows her true net worth.

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 Рік тому

      Sorry u didn’t get what u hoped for

    • @carolmaz8675
      @carolmaz8675 Рік тому

      She looked after you both with this x

  • @AnnMitt
    @AnnMitt 5 років тому +407

    She should move into senior apartments. Just rent a small 600 square feet apartment.

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 років тому +11

      Usually they're HUD apartments. Income based.

    • @vision1707
      @vision1707 5 років тому +46

      She wants a 300000 range home, supports her kid college tuitions, 70000 salary a year, for yer own business. This lady got money.

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 років тому +4

      @@vision1707 I know right poor lady

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 років тому +14

      @E W Wow, your mom was smart!

    • @cohenfromdiscord2551
      @cohenfromdiscord2551 5 років тому +4

      @E W Yeah. I think rentals is a nice play for persons with low cash reserves getting close to the age of retirement. I'm not surprised Dave didn't mention this because he likely view a rental as an investment thats too speculative

  • @NickPeitsch
    @NickPeitsch 5 років тому +48

    This is exactly why learning financial freedom at a young age is SO important!
    Save, invest, and repeat. This is the key to financial freedom.

    • @markwhittaker6866
      @markwhittaker6866 5 років тому

      Great advice.

    • @Phlfwlr
      @Phlfwlr 4 роки тому

      Copy and Paste Invest in Life Insurance and Indexed Annuities. You cannot lose money with either not even when the market crashes. Read the book the the Power of Zero.

  • @classycassie1118
    @classycassie1118 5 років тому +73

    Rent spare bedrooms in the house to pay it off faster.

    • @needbailout
      @needbailout 5 років тому +14

      Cassie Best Ever! I'd be careful renting rooms, there's a lot of psychiatric issues, drug addicts, and people intentionally ready to cause problems from the get!

    • @doorguru168888
      @doorguru168888 9 місяців тому

      Never let a stranger move into your house. They can stop paying rent, and you can't get rid of them easily. The legal system supports their rights.

  • @davidb8777
    @davidb8777 5 років тому +36

    That look of pain on Dave's face when she mentions both no money saved for retirement and leasing a car.

    • @pb577
      @pb577 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, leasing is for fools.

  • @Kenwood..
    @Kenwood.. 4 роки тому +126

    I was expecting something else, she has waaaaay more money than most.

    • @mikeblaz
      @mikeblaz 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. Not sure why she's even worried....

    • @1BABartz1
      @1BABartz1 3 роки тому +5

      She has no home.

    • @DigitalBridge.
      @DigitalBridge. 2 роки тому +1

      They have to use clickbait to get you to watch the video.

    • @pm2886
      @pm2886 2 роки тому

      No she doesn't. At 60 she should have a paid for property, and no other debt. She should be able to semi-retired at this point.

    • @Kenwood..
      @Kenwood.. 2 роки тому

      @@pm2886 you aren't aware of the nation's problem are you?

  • @jacquelineglitter4328
    @jacquelineglitter4328 9 місяців тому +2

    Im 59 and I'm on disability. My home is almost payed off. I don't have a lot of bills and I'm doing ok considering my low income.

  • @AnnaM4117
    @AnnaM4117 3 роки тому +9

    I read the title and as a child of a 59 year old parent, whose mobility is degenerative, I got stressed out. It reminded me how long it took them to snap out of it and take aggressive actions to get their finances in order. This particular parent knows they’ll wind up living with me. I’m thankful that they now understand the importance of relieving me from any additional stress in my future care-taking of them.

  • @mikestevens2053
    @mikestevens2053 Рік тому +7

    I’m blessed to have parents who instilled delayed gratification, investing for the future, living modestly, etc., when we were young. In your 20’s it’s hard to see 60. But here we are, comfortably retired and able to help others going through various trials of their own

  • @dcamnc1
    @dcamnc1 5 років тому +28

    She needs to stop paying her daughter's tuition and buy a 150k condo or small house.

  • @lifeandpsychology450
    @lifeandpsychology450 4 роки тому +93

    The sad reality, she isn’t going to do what he said

    • @jeanettejamison1045
      @jeanettejamison1045 3 роки тому +8

      You don't know

    • @JoseMora-wc5zz
      @JoseMora-wc5zz 3 роки тому +2

      @@jeanettejamison1045 oh but he does.

    • @CoffeeTeaWithSusan
      @CoffeeTeaWithSusan 3 роки тому

      She just might.

    • @MrFunkadeIic
      @MrFunkadeIic 3 роки тому

      She doesn't have to. If you make $70K a year and can't figure it out, that's on you. She can easily live on $25K a year and do whatever she pleases with the other $50K. Hopefully to further her retirement options

  • @46monkeyes
    @46monkeyes 5 років тому +205

    Why buy a 400K house at the age of 70+? And why is she still enabling her daughter through college? I don’t understand those things.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where 5 років тому +16

      Her daughter might be grateful of the help getting through college, and take care of her mom once she's got a good career going and started saving for retirement.

    • @Excalibur2
      @Excalibur2 5 років тому +9

      "enabling" - as if this is a drug addiction.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where 5 років тому +3

      @Chris Ev I know that's my goal. My parents helped me and I have life insurance plus ever growing savings they will get if I die, or I will be able to help them financially when they need. Longer term I will also probably end up helping my sisters but I can only save so much.

    • @46monkeyes
      @46monkeyes 5 років тому +5

      ScarletNight -Enabling does NOT just have to do with drug addiction!

    • @conniemurphyover70stillgla47
      @conniemurphyover70stillgla47 5 років тому

      I TOTALLY AGREE

  • @wanelly
    @wanelly 5 років тому +21

    Take the 300k @ hand: buy 2 townhomes. Live in one and collect rent from the other one. Done, solved. As for the daughter, too bad. she should carry her own tuition load.

  • @timeapenzes1793
    @timeapenzes1793 5 років тому +7

    Listening to Dave's talking is very wise and I eye opening...but, Oh boy!...reading the hundreds of comments just as much entertaining! This show wouldn't be complete without you guys! Keep up the good work and keep commenting! Greetings with love, from over the pond! ♥️

    • @jennross2241
      @jennross2241 3 роки тому

      EXACTLY. Thinking anything else is a joke.

  • @RaymondKeen.
    @RaymondKeen. 23 дні тому +3

    I'm 54 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for…

    • @BellamyGriffin19
      @BellamyGriffin19 23 дні тому +2

      If you need advice, consider speaking with a financial advisor. Don't get me wrong, you can do it on your own, but financial advisors have a lot more knowledge and expertise in this area.

    • @HectorWhitney
      @HectorWhitney 23 дні тому +2

      You have a very valid point, I started investing on my own and for a long time, the market was really ripping me off. I decided to hire a CFA, even though I was skeptical at first, and I beat the market by more than 9%. I thought it was a fluke until it happened two years in a row, and so I’ve been sticking to investing via an analyst

    • @ChristianKelv
      @ChristianKelv 23 дні тому +2

      Could you possibly recommend a CFA you've consulted with?

    • @HectorWhitney
      @HectorWhitney 23 дні тому +1

      My CFA ’Sophia Maurine Lanting’ , a renowned figure in her line of work. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market.

    • @JohnSmith060
      @JohnSmith060 23 дні тому +1

      Thank you for saving me hours of back and forth investigation into the markets. I simply copied and pasted her full name into my browser, and her website came up first in search results. She looks flawless.

  • @jeanlenor1858
    @jeanlenor1858 5 років тому +484

    Broke people living in a 500k house OMG!!!

    • @leahv5892
      @leahv5892 5 років тому +14

      jean lenor well and she has $200k AFTER her house sells? That’s good right? Right?

    • @LindseyObrooke
      @LindseyObrooke 5 років тому +53

      You call 70k a year and over 200k from selling broke?? Get bent. She's ridiculous for not saving any money on 70k a year. She can live a great life and have a good retirement still.

    • @jeanlenor1858
      @jeanlenor1858 5 років тому +1

      @@LindseyObrooke She's old... Doesn't that change her status?

    • @LindseyObrooke
      @LindseyObrooke 5 років тому +4

      @@jeanlenor1858 She could still have 40 years life left, and 20 workable ones. At least 15 if she stays in good health. What status??

    • @jeanlenor1858
      @jeanlenor1858 5 років тому +17

      @@LindseyObrooke I mean her financial status. If she was young with 200k in net worth, we d call her rich or on her way there. But, she's old. Her best earning potential is behind her.

  • @GeorgeJazzVideos
    @GeorgeJazzVideos 4 роки тому +168

    All those commenting in judgement as to why someone at this age doesn't have much money.
    Let me just say..you think you are fine because you have lots of $$? Good for you, but let me say this.....God forbid you get profoundly ill, or someone in your family gets profoundly ill, or your parents need 24 hour care for years, or the dollar crashes, or your house burns down and the insurance won't cover it....and on and on...
    I hope nobody has to experience any of that....because only one of the above can destroy that self assured confidence that you are financially sound. Judgement is an arrogant fools game.
    We are all one catastrophe away from losing everything.

    • @brendaechols2228
      @brendaechols2228 4 роки тому +9

      Yep and you can have billions and it cant cure your stage 4 cancer.

    • @cliffordlevy3918
      @cliffordlevy3918 4 роки тому +6

      I live in Canada. I've had 3 surgery's since moving out. Didn't cost me a cent. Good luck with all the "freedom" you guys have.

    • @godisgood5038
      @godisgood5038 4 роки тому

      WOW!!! WELL SAID!!! SO VERY TRUE!!!!

    • @baronvonchickenpants6564
      @baronvonchickenpants6564 4 роки тому +5

      Divorce is one

    • @gracenmercy579
      @gracenmercy579 4 роки тому +1

      Well said!

  • @mle011
    @mle011 5 років тому +5

    Living in a $500,000+ house for so long, she's gotten used to that standard of living. I don't see her buying a small 1-bedroom condo or a $150-200k shack, she's not going to be happy about moving down in house.

  • @nehemiahstewart
    @nehemiahstewart 3 роки тому +94

    How old is this daughter having her 60 year old mother paying for her education?

    • @Cassiopea56
      @Cassiopea56 3 роки тому +8

      Some people have kids late, my mother was 41 when we (my twin and I) were born ,putting her right around 60 when we left for college

    • @Hootowls5
      @Hootowls5 3 роки тому +3

      @@Cassiopea56 I'm 54 with a 17, 19 and 23 year old. I'm curious about her college students age as well.

    • @AMarie_USA
      @AMarie_USA 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, no one paid for anything when I went to college, not even my books. I had to take out book loans was how broke I was but I did it. People have their lives backwards.

    • @run4cmt
      @run4cmt 3 роки тому +3

      @@AMarie_USA No kidding, the kid should be paying for their own college. They can live at home and go to a local college.

  • @fdm2155
    @fdm2155 4 роки тому +28

    I'd be looking to go as small and inexpensive as I could. Will you really want to do the maintenance on a larger home as you age?

  • @juliettezea9507
    @juliettezea9507 4 роки тому +63

    She should just move into a small 1 bedroom apartment, live in a small town in the Midwest and live frugal

    • @Young-if1jz
      @Young-if1jz 4 роки тому +2

      Juliette Zea... Great idea, Juliette! YOU should be her roommate!

    • @juliettezea9507
      @juliettezea9507 4 роки тому +3

      Young 1 she don’t need a roommate, it would be so cheap already

    • @hzuiel
      @hzuiel 4 роки тому +5

      @@Young-if1jz What was the point of this comment?

    • @marierika2012
      @marierika2012 4 роки тому +2

      Is actually what I would do!

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 4 роки тому +5

      That’s exactly my plan.
      I’m 59 with a small income pension
      And I have zero debt and $22k in savings.
      Gonna buy a small home somewhere and
      Live frugal.
      Oatmeal and raisins $1 per meal.

  • @BLACKHEAT1028
    @BLACKHEAT1028 3 роки тому +10

    I have always read or heard that you can ask your child to pay for their college education but can’t ask them to fund your retirement.

    • @paulbunyun3663
      @paulbunyun3663 8 місяців тому

      biden is paying off student loans in other words im paying off peoples student loans

  • @sarahpatterson390
    @sarahpatterson390 3 роки тому +40

    I'm retired with over 3.5 million networth, I've always loved the FIRE movement but the FI part is most important. I'm so happy I made good decisions about my finances... You can do it too

    • @stevewilliams1213
      @stevewilliams1213 3 роки тому +1

      Wow!! This is real good

    • @lindabarbara9644
      @lindabarbara9644 3 роки тому

      You did great ma❤️ I would love to get to this stage, can you help me out ?

    • @linapesz313
      @linapesz313 3 роки тому

      @@lindabarbara9644 how she should help you out?

    • @linapesz313
      @linapesz313 3 роки тому

      Congratulations 👏 👏 👏 👏

    • @sarahpatterson390
      @sarahpatterson390 3 роки тому

      @@linapesz313 thank you

  • @Musashi246
    @Musashi246 5 років тому +61

    290k in the bank, 70k/year. Broke?

    • @dalekelly7639
      @dalekelly7639 5 років тому +2

      Who used the word "broke"?

    • @StaggerLee68
      @StaggerLee68 4 роки тому +7

      Boomers whining again, I just puked a little bit.

    • @michellerichardson3090
      @michellerichardson3090 4 роки тому +2

      I thought she said once she sells the house she'll have that much

    • @karliegilbert3917
      @karliegilbert3917 4 роки тому +2

      I have $3,000 in the bank and I thought I was doing well. 😂

    • @rds990
      @rds990 4 роки тому +2

      But with that 200k in bank she has no home.

  • @emomuzz5883
    @emomuzz5883 5 років тому +10

    Dave is "the man". If you live like a rich person U R going to B poor. Live like a poor person for a little while and the rewards can be great.

  • @MrCountrycuz
    @MrCountrycuz 4 роки тому +23

    I ran into a lady who was traveling in a 100 k mercedes benz rv. This lady told me she had retired from the post office at 60,went to trucking school and drove for ten years over the road. She has no debt and lots of cash and enjoys her life.

  • @BrewerVera
    @BrewerVera 3 місяці тому +396

    I've kept much of my savings in cash for safety, but I'm unsure if it's right for retirement. Contemplating investing $400K in stocks, as I've heard investors can profit in tough times. Unsure about my next move.

    • @FaithAndrada-xo9ou
      @FaithAndrada-xo9ou 3 місяці тому +4

      It's impressive how much you saved during your working years, a feat not many achieve in a lifetime. Now that you're retired and rely on your investments, it's wise to redistribute your capital to mitigate risks during market fluctuations. Consulting a financial advisor can help simplify this process.

    • @AndersonFair-cy2bb
      @AndersonFair-cy2bb 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I’m also closing in on retirement, and I have benefitted much from using a financial advisor. I didn’t really start early, so I knew the compound interest of index fund investing would not work for me. Funny how I pulled in more profit than some of my peers who have been investing for many years.

    • @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley
      @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley 3 місяці тому +3

      Please can you leave the info of your lnvestment advsor here? I’m in dire need for one

    • @AndersonFair-cy2bb
      @AndersonFair-cy2bb 3 місяці тому +7

      Rachel Sarah Parrish is the licensed advisor I use. Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

    • @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley
      @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley 3 місяці тому +2

      I looked up her full name online and found her page. I emailed and made an appointment to talk with her; hopefully, she gets back to me.

  • @luanntexascitizen4345
    @luanntexascitizen4345 4 роки тому +24

    I thought this was going to be about a woman with no resources. She has alot to work with. I'd like to hear a plan for 59, disabled, $1500 per month to live on and no retirement, because medical bills left me broke. How do I get into a paid for house by 'retirement ' age? That would be great information.

    • @krisa2680
      @krisa2680 2 роки тому +7

      Agree! Let's hear about a REAL PROBLEM!!!

    • @KabobHope
      @KabobHope 2 роки тому +3

      You don't. Get a federally subsided apartment for 62+ or disabled. It will cost you 30 percent of your income and because the community is older it is generally safe.

    • @fredericknewman5398
      @fredericknewman5398 2 роки тому +3

      omg these are click bait. this lady has 300k. this show is pathetic

    • @georgewagner7787
      @georgewagner7787 2 роки тому

      You should try to call in to the show and ask

  • @esvareinmal1041
    @esvareinmal1041 5 років тому +46

    Just move to cypress Texas houses are cheaper and jobs are available, after all once you close the door on you America is pretty much the same, same Walmart same pizza delivery time and same gas stations ⛽️. Leave Florida it is over rated.

    • @JeremyBlant
      @JeremyBlant 5 років тому +2

      My family recently moved to Cypress from Denver. We've been in the area for a couple years now also. Seems better than a lot of places I've been to across this country.

    • @esvareinmal1041
      @esvareinmal1041 5 років тому +3

      Jeremy Blanton , welcome to town new Texan :) , I forgot to mention that school rating is outstanding compare to lots of places. Wish u al, the best Jeremy 👍🏻

    • @leahv5892
      @leahv5892 5 років тому +4

      Yeah because hurricanes bust up Cypress every few years. I live in Brenham and people from Houston and flooding in.

    • @elgreco7775
      @elgreco7775 5 років тому +4

      I would never move to Texas, not only hurricanes & flooding, but 4th highest in the USA on property taxes ( I googled). A decent home to buy isn't cheap either. I didn't look up rentals since I'm a homeowner in beautiful California & not moving anyway

    • @esvareinmal1041
      @esvareinmal1041 5 років тому +4

      Dear Renee , I understand you well but really living in many places in this land is kinda overrated, we can predict weather but really can’t stop fire or floods from reaching our homes, my next door neighbor is from California and I couldn’t believe her when she told me that she sold her property in LA ( small Appartment) and bought 3 houses in cypress! Average brand new homes here is about 200K on ward. As a pilot I had the privilege of scanning North America from door to door and what matters the most is how much my dollar can do for my kids in education, health and safety. I’m extremely poor if I live in NY or California, instead I decided to save all that future spending money toward my children future. I wish if I can afford living in Switzerland if u ask me what is the best place to live in 😁👍🏻. Cheers

  • @Dan007UT
    @Dan007UT 4 роки тому +5

    Ive learned to never have a car payment again. Thanks Dave!

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus 2 роки тому +2

    Definitely a tale of caution but there's life there's hope- pray for my success.
    God bless, Rev. 21:4

  • @StevenAllotey
    @StevenAllotey 5 років тому +15

    expensive car lease and 500k home but no retirement savings or investments

    • @eckankar7756
      @eckankar7756 3 роки тому +1

      I was thinking all the retirement funding ended up at the liquor store.

  • @ChrisMFlorida
    @ChrisMFlorida 5 років тому +250

    Dave was sleeping on the "cash flowing my daughters college"

    • @Aigentcy
      @Aigentcy 5 років тому +3

      A daydream fantasy

    • @karenhardie1132
      @karenhardie1132 4 роки тому +4

      Dave paid for all 3 of his kids college.

    • @JamesJamersonIsAGod
      @JamesJamersonIsAGod 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, depending on the schools cost that could be a huge amount of money. Unfortunately her daughter is going to need to pick up the lions share of payments, she has a lot more time to take care of the debt. It won’t help her daughter any that if in 10 years she get sick and is unable to work and now the daughter is what? 30? Starting a family of her own and now needs to support her mom 100%?

    • @helenaroxbigtime
      @helenaroxbigtime 4 роки тому +2

      I think it’s bc that’s not the real problem that is a symptom

    • @13ikea
      @13ikea 3 роки тому

      If she can afford it comfortably i don’t see the problem. Student loans put people behind the curve after graduation.

  • @user-ph6qv4fd5v
    @user-ph6qv4fd5v 5 років тому +41

    Pay off the $12000 move outside the city limits and buy a modular home on some land Or go buy a condo for a 150k have money leftover to invest and still getting a paycheck thats cash flowing every month living debt free.

    • @TerryOnDemand
      @TerryOnDemand 5 років тому +3

      Thats what I was thinking. Go and buy a nice manufactured home away from the coast🤷‍♀️.

    • @Blessedfamilymama
      @Blessedfamilymama 5 років тому

      It's not realistic in this area. I live in the same area.

    • @user-ph6qv4fd5v
      @user-ph6qv4fd5v 5 років тому

      I have co worker that transferred to that area and live in nice places that’s cheaper than $300k for a house

    • @wanelly
      @wanelly 5 років тому +4

      C : sounds like a plan until she invests the 150k in the market, then boom! The market crashes and her new balance is 40k. I don’t know about you but I’d buy two town homes for 150k each. Rent one out and live in the other.

    • @mikeb8342
      @mikeb8342 5 років тому +2

      Don't think Dave has EVER recommended buying a manufactured home/trailer house.

  • @melissaacosta7012
    @melissaacosta7012 4 роки тому +3

    Same.....living day to day seeing what God's plan is for me......I remember my mother in law that lived off of a small social security check.....miss her showed me so much

  • @sunnyrob5176
    @sunnyrob5176 5 років тому +10

    I could have made this call. Same age, about the same cash available, but make only 40k. However I’m working toward vesting into a pension. Gonna buy a little condo for under 200, and a newish car both for cash - stash an emergency fund and invest the rest! Glad I’m on the right track!

  • @adamsaldana5462
    @adamsaldana5462 3 роки тому +8

    I love these game plans that dave comes up with for the older callers.

  • @clydeshannon8669
    @clydeshannon8669 5 років тому +31

    At least shes got money from sale of her house so she has retirement money some people don't have anything in the bank for any type of retirement

    • @OfftoShambala
      @OfftoShambala 4 роки тому

      Most people usually sell their homes at retirement and that’s their retirement nest egg... they often move from expensive places to sun city in AZ where they can buy a nice little place for cheap and live on social security, the money from the sale of their homes and any other nest egg income they may have... like a rental property or two or three.

    • @Darltk
      @Darltk 4 роки тому +1

      Selling the house is a her retirement money. I don't get why she is trying to get a bigger expensive house. Priorities.

  • @def-supreme5409
    @def-supreme5409 3 роки тому +3

    NOPE, I just retired at 49 with a mortgage and one loan; I refuse to work until 70 and my die anytime. RETIRE ASAP tomorrow isn't promise to anyone..........STAY SAFE

  • @rebeccaoliver7977
    @rebeccaoliver7977 3 роки тому +9

    I'm curious why Dave didn't suggest she move -- maybe the books she manages and the salary she makes is dependent on her location.

  • @Kryten428
    @Kryten428 4 роки тому +11

    When my brother retired his company brought in a retirement planner for all the people who were getting close to retiring. During the lunch break my brother was chatting with the guy and the guy said the most ill prepared person he ever had at one of these events was a medical doctor who at age 63 took on a $400000 mortgage and couldn't understand why he was being told he couldn't retire at age 65.

    • @TheFirstRealChewy
      @TheFirstRealChewy Рік тому

      Depends on how much that doctor had in investments. If there's enough to comfortably pay the mortgage and live lavishly, then no real concern there.
      I doubt that was the case though since he was being told he couldn't retire.😅

    • @victorblock3421
      @victorblock3421 Рік тому

      @@TheFirstRealChewy Doctors are some of the most stupid people with money. Very few have financial smarts

  • @tomspoof7163
    @tomspoof7163 5 років тому +35

    She is in a better situation than most her age. Clearly a daughter in college is a joker in card deck.

  • @FredSmith-s5t
    @FredSmith-s5t 9 місяців тому +2

    Noy smart. I got 2 $10000 bonuses back in the mid 70s. They were invested not spent. Still making money for me and I'm in now in my mid 70s.

  • @AmandaHugenkiss2915
    @AmandaHugenkiss2915 5 років тому +6

    Agree with others here this lady has no business buying a 200K house and paying tuition. Move away from the expensive area, even just a few miles, and find something small, cheap, and easy to maintain. I'd prefer a real house. Pay someone to mow your lawn if you can't, it's a lot cheaper than huge condo fees. College kid can work and take loans responsibly, that's the kid's problem.

  • @purplecxcx5791
    @purplecxcx5791 5 років тому +11

    Sounds like my dad, except now he's unemployed. He's watching the calendar for his social security to kick in

  • @DLFfitness1
    @DLFfitness1 5 років тому +14

    You have to be willing to live differently, if you want different outcomes.

  • @GodHelpMe369
    @GodHelpMe369 9 місяців тому +1

    I WILL NO LONGER
    HAVE MY VOICE SILENCED.
    (NEVER EVER EVER!!!)
    I WILL ROAR!!!

  • @susantam9949
    @susantam9949 4 роки тому +76

    By the title, I thought she was broke at 59. Instead, she has $200k in the bank. She’s doing better than all of us combined.

    • @bellbottomblues131
      @bellbottomblues131 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly!

    • @ericshang7744
      @ericshang7744 3 роки тому +1

      her networth is around 250k, which is not bad at all. her problem is that approaching retirement, asset rich but cash poor, that's why she must create some cash asset bas that she can draw on.

    • @hugy
      @hugy 3 роки тому +5

      520k for the house and 210k in savings.... she's good for retirement.. I dont see the big deal.

    • @hunkydude322
      @hunkydude322 3 роки тому

      lol.

    • @2Greenlid
      @2Greenlid 3 роки тому +2

      All of who combined?? That’s not a lot of money...sorry but I’m better off than that since I was 30 years old...my net worth crossed a million in my mid 30s, by the way my dad was a sergeant in the Army, no trust fund baby.....