More Interesting Findings About Doom's Graphics

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  • Опубліковано 28 лют 2020
  • First we did the monster sprites, now the rest!
    Music from BTSX E2 by James Paddock:
    jamespaddock.bandcamp.com/alb...
    Doomworld threads where findings were made (special thanks to Blackmantis):
    www.doomworld.com/forum/topic...
    www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-gen...
    Tumblr archive:
    imx-doomer.tumblr.com/post/13...
    imx-doomer.tumblr.com/tagged/...
    Unused Doom data:
    github.com/fragglet/RomeroDoo...
    Sprite rips:
    www.spriters-resource.com/pc_...
    Patreon:
    / decino
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  • @PeterJamesVillegas
    @PeterJamesVillegas 4 роки тому +4957

    Other games: Uses real-life gun counterparts
    DOOM: **Rustles around a toy box looking for guns**

    • @claytonpactol8851
      @claytonpactol8851 4 роки тому +147

      Well, it works.

    • @Gojiro7
      @Gojiro7 4 роки тому +306

      whats Funny is I use to have the doom shotgun as a kid....had no clue it was THE doom shotgun and modified it several times before eventually throwing it away, I feel but hurt about it now, but it was very well worn with love of pretending to kill bad things XD

    • @PeterJamesVillegas
      @PeterJamesVillegas 4 роки тому +68

      @@NerfPlayeR135 Judging from how long these toys have been, they don't have it anymore.

    • @Crystal_Latte_Arts
      @Crystal_Latte_Arts 4 роки тому +25

      Peter James Villegas that’s a shame, the shotgun looks really nice

    • @PeterJamesVillegas
      @PeterJamesVillegas 4 роки тому +5

      @@Crystal_Latte_Arts Yeah.

  • @pmchad
    @pmchad 4 роки тому +1944

    Sponsored By Raid Shadow Legends?: ❌
    Sponsored By a Book?: ✔️

  • @KrinkelsNG
    @KrinkelsNG 3 роки тому +3113

    When I saw this vid I went out to Rodin Museum, I had to get face to face with that statue. So cool. I would've never known that face was right here in town.

  • @pegasoltaeclair0611
    @pegasoltaeclair0611 4 роки тому +746

    8:19 - just to clafiry: the demons are not fighting between themselves, they're killing other marines.

    • @mopedman8220
      @mopedman8220 3 роки тому +11

      And it's not the orginal cover art.

    • @karbonatedkoffee
      @karbonatedkoffee 3 роки тому +30

      @@xtremebrainrot they look like zombiemen cause they are getting torn apart but they are marines tho

    • @mpmpm5203
      @mpmpm5203 3 роки тому +6

      The only marine killed in that its the baron of hell one cuz the other was a zombieman.

    • @hunterericson6782
      @hunterericson6782 3 роки тому +11

      But they do fight amongst themselves a lot in the game, which I always thought was hilarious.

    • @ComradeAtSpace95
      @ComradeAtSpace95 3 роки тому +2

      Just interesting that those idiot marines get killed by those demon (and Pinky has eat the idiot zombieman or the idiot marine(I didn't know that someone that get bite by Pinky was marine or zombieman))

  • @T-West
    @T-West 4 роки тому +2997

    Time to plan a trip to the Rodin Museum. I'll need to press that gargoyle face and find the secret it unlocks if I want to finish my IRL100S run.

    • @MrCantStopTheRobot
      @MrCantStopTheRobot 4 роки тому +58

      It's about two hours from me... Hmm, Decino fan-response vids due?

    • @MMMmyshawarma
      @MMMmyshawarma 4 роки тому +74

      Holy shit, I live in Philadelphia and never knew. Guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 роки тому +20

      @@MMMmyshawarma I've known it's been there for a while. It's about 120 miles from me. So I could make it there and back in a day. It's a lot outdoors so you might want to go during nice weather. Might want to check their website for hours too.

    • @gub4941
      @gub4941 4 роки тому +50

      T-West i’d avoid it when doing a run that doesn’t require 100% anything as pressing it teleports a ton of security guards around you.

    • @BlazingShadowSword
      @BlazingShadowSword 4 роки тому +54

      I'll bet that's where the government is hiding the BFG 9000.

  • @Dwars
    @Dwars 4 роки тому +4280

    Red goo? Everyone knows the revenant actually just wears red pants.

    • @TerrorLTZ
      @TerrorLTZ 4 роки тому +122

      @@user-no3tu9kh3p well these are to hide the fact they shit themselves when Doomguy Drifts into the room with a S.shotgun or a plasma gun

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 роки тому +33

      @@user-no3tu9kh3p Just like Jake from State Farm.

    • @darrellgardner4561
      @darrellgardner4561 4 роки тому +16

      @@CaveyMoth the real threat

    • @TheRealNormanBates
      @TheRealNormanBates 4 роки тому +26

      Cavey Möth Does this mean we can start calling all of the Barons from Hell “Jake”?

    • @Dargonhuman
      @Dargonhuman 4 роки тому +13

      @@TheRealNormanBates I'm doing that from now on...

  • @Jaeeden
    @Jaeeden 3 роки тому +489

    Imagine Doomguy killing demons with foam darts.

    • @BrandonBattleblade
      @BrandonBattleblade 3 роки тому +27

      Commander keen but with demons

    • @brutalblam3909
      @brutalblam3909 2 роки тому +10

      Why imagine? Someone should mod that in!

    • @C_Corpze
      @C_Corpze 2 роки тому +8

      Seeing how powerful he is I don't doubt that he could kill them with just foam darts.

    • @PercydeRoloFangirl
      @PercydeRoloFangirl 2 роки тому +1

      He probably can still pull it off.

    • @Xakaion
      @Xakaion 2 роки тому +6

      I read this as 'Foam Farts'
      Wtf is wrong with me?

  • @Puffie40
    @Puffie40 2 роки тому +203

    5:48 - the chainsaw is a McCulloch "Eager Beaver" chainsaw. It is a arborist model intended for pruning trees, so it is actually quite small compared to other saws.
    I believe John Romero said it was his (ex) girlfriend's saw, and it was never returned.

    • @EvilMariobot
      @EvilMariobot Рік тому +22

      And now it's well-known for pruning the faces of Pinky Demons.

    • @ExtraThiccc
      @ExtraThiccc 9 місяців тому +18

      She stole his heart, he stole her chainsaw. I'd say that's even

    • @nicholassammons3881
      @nicholassammons3881 6 місяців тому +4

      A pruning chainsaw?
      You learn something new every day...

    • @Puffie40
      @Puffie40 6 місяців тому +2

      @@nicholassammons3881 yeah, those kinds of saws are only about 35cc-40cc displacement, and are compact with the rear handle on top of the engine, almost part of the front bracing handle. They are designed so an arborist can climb trees with it attached to a tether, and be able to operate it while hugging the tree trunk.

    • @crispyjelly2485
      @crispyjelly2485 4 місяці тому

      ​@@nicholassammons3881chainsaws are just a mechanism, you can have a hand driven one. Prunings chainsaws are also used on a pole. You'll have more chainsaw facts soon

  • @asdasdasd54
    @asdasdasd54 4 роки тому +2787

    I played Doom the first time when I was 4 years old.
    At 5 my uncle gave me the tootsie chaingun as a gift, he even told me "Look here! It's Doom's Chaingun"
    I NEVER THOUGHT HE WAS DAMN SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND I HAD THE REAL THING IN MY HANDS FOR YEARS SAASDSADASDASDASDASFSDFASDF

  • @trashbot8294
    @trashbot8294 4 роки тому +467

    Something I've never noticed before...
    Doomguy wears gloves, except when he uses the fist.

    • @jeremyabbott4537
      @jeremyabbott4537 3 роки тому +106

      you don't want to dirty your gloves

    • @yegorgribenuke6853
      @yegorgribenuke6853 3 роки тому +46

      @@jeremyabbott4537 cuz you gonna get the weapon triggers dirty

    • @tling321
      @tling321 3 роки тому +45

      Gloves? I thought it was somekind of foreskin

    • @mattfromwiisports9414
      @mattfromwiisports9414 3 роки тому +1

      @@xtremebrainrot Sleeves

    • @GuffBussy
      @GuffBussy 3 роки тому +4

      @@xtremebrainrot Forearm-skin

  • @labrat4421
    @labrat4421 3 роки тому +214

    8:05 this later became the gladiator in Doom Eternal

    • @maykrangel3401
      @maykrangel3401 3 роки тому +11

      I thought i was the only one who noticed

    • @JiroTheRaptor
      @JiroTheRaptor 3 роки тому +23

      Well if I recall, the Gladiator was meant to be directly based on the classic Doom Hell Knight.

    • @brutalblam3909
      @brutalblam3909 2 роки тому +2

      The gladiator as a whole is just a classic baron

    • @Oatmea1L
      @Oatmea1L Рік тому

      Um actually, the gladiator is a hell knight

    • @29morganbunknown46
      @29morganbunknown46 4 місяці тому

      the gladeator is a mix of both

  • @Bhhhhhb
    @Bhhhhhb 3 роки тому +39

    8:52 me when microwave

  • @nabnoob
    @nabnoob 4 роки тому +4128

    My grandma had a vacuum cleaner that resembled the plasma rifle a lot more than that toy gun you showed. :D

  • @TheBellTolls
    @TheBellTolls 4 роки тому +1117

    That full BFG is crazy.

  • @zetamaniac
    @zetamaniac 2 роки тому +135

    7:58 "Strangely enough, the floor variant uses the low quality version. I wonder why?"
    If im not mistaken, E1M8 was the first map made for DOOM, John Romero said so during an interview, so it wouldnt be surprising if they just worked with unpolished assets at that time.

    • @robertwalpole5376
      @robertwalpole5376 Місяць тому +1

      Huh, that's interesting. E1M8 (Phobos Anomaly) isn't in Alpha 0.3., I presumed it would've been one of the stages in there (E1M2, E2M2, E2M3, E2M7).

  • @captainimperialism4568
    @captainimperialism4568 3 роки тому +244

    7:17 As a kid I always thought this showed Doomguy’s arm sticking out of the ground holding Daisy’s head, like he found her dead body in hell and crawled through the ground to the surface like a zombie.

    • @plutoniadude3944
      @plutoniadude3944 Рік тому +6

      Did you think that the ending screen from The Ultimate Doom was Doomguy getting out of the ground successfully after the first try?

    • @drillbit8280
      @drillbit8280 Рік тому +12

      Why would poor daisy go to hell?

    • @phobosanomaly5383
      @phobosanomaly5383 Рік тому +18

      @@drillbit8280 the demons took her there by force maybe

    • @CLASSYTUXYFGA
      @CLASSYTUXYFGA Рік тому +14

      I always thought that spike was his arm

    • @JGT-yd2wx
      @JGT-yd2wx Рік тому +5

      I'm glad i'm not the only one

  • @nixel1324
    @nixel1324 4 роки тому +2700

    I almost skipped the "sponsorship" out of reflex, but rewound when I noticed it was actual content.
    The current state of UA-cam, am I right?

    • @Marsc9013
      @Marsc9013 4 роки тому +81

      Pro tip: check the description and look for a sponsor link to see if its legit

    • @nixel1324
      @nixel1324 4 роки тому +126

      @Luis Martinez Skipping sponsorships rarely hurts creators. Most sponsors pay a flat rate or base it on click-through rate. Seeing as I don't follow ad links anyway, it makes zero difference.

    • @Jane-qh2yd
      @Jane-qh2yd 3 роки тому +16

      @@nixel1324 Yeah but it is p[ointless to complain about sponsorships, since it allows us to watch high quality content more often

    • @chrism1518
      @chrism1518 3 роки тому +11

      Luis Martinez
      It never crossed your mind that nobody gives a fuck if a UA-camr makes money? If you aren’t popular enough to be paid by UA-cam themself then you shouldn’t be doing it full time anyway.

    • @CreamyClaws
      @CreamyClaws 3 роки тому +19

      I don't mind sponsorships. UA-cam's monetization system is really fickle and you can be demonetized at the drop of a hat, so it helps creators have more control over their content.

  • @iiWNMii
    @iiWNMii 4 роки тому +1772

    The use of classical art, landscapes, TMNT and toys shows their intellect and humor.
    These were renaissance men.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 3 роки тому +50

      Possibly, but I think it had far more to do with the tools they had available to work with at the time. Using recorded versions of real life things was very common at the time. For example, the sound of the boulder chasing Indy during Raiders of the Lost Ark was taken out the window of a car as it drove to capture the sound of the tires. And many movies made use of the Wilhelm scream, especially movies by Spielberg and Lucas.
      In terms of gaming, this was a period where the studio teams were still pretty small and they were trying to release multiple games a year, so any time they could just digitize something rather than have to invent it from scratch, they were going to do it. It's not like these days where a game might have an entire art department with a dozen or more people cranking out the exact things that you need for the space.

    • @konnoyasuki1856
      @konnoyasuki1856 2 роки тому +11

      So True! Also its reflective of resourcefulness & eclectic creativity on their behalf.

    • @archfiend334
      @archfiend334 2 роки тому +6

      Does that make it morally acceptable to LARP as John Romero?

    • @antipsychotic451
      @antipsychotic451 2 роки тому +6

      Or maybe they just grabbed whatever they thought looked good for their demon-shooting video game. I think you're giving them way too much credit here.

    • @mrscruffles801
      @mrscruffles801 2 роки тому +3

      Inthink you're not giving them enough credit

  • @lucalanzi9345
    @lucalanzi9345 4 роки тому +566

    Doom used literal stock images

    • @AndratVO
      @AndratVO 3 роки тому +80

      To be fair, so did Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Sonic Adventure, and tons of other early 3D games.

    • @chasef1077
      @chasef1077 3 роки тому +2

      @@AndratVO doom isn’t 3D tho

    • @AndratVO
      @AndratVO 3 роки тому +46

      ​@@chasef1077 i don't see what that does to counter the point i made at all- semantics

    • @chasef1077
      @chasef1077 3 роки тому +2

      @@AndratVO I thought you were trying to say doom was 3-D

    • @eryn974
      @eryn974 3 роки тому +6

      @@chasef1077 doom 3 is 3d

  • @bohdan_lvov
    @bohdan_lvov 3 роки тому +34

    5:50 "This is the only photo of that chainsaw"
    John Romero posted a new photo of it on his IG

  • @lowen__
    @lowen__ 4 роки тому +524

    3:38 I always thought that was just the colour of Doomguy's skin, I didn't realize until now it was a glove.

    • @Anomaly188
      @Anomaly188 4 роки тому +89

      You can see him wearing gloves in the shotgun reload animation.

    • @lowen__
      @lowen__ 4 роки тому +52

      Craptastic13 really? I'll be back.
      Edit: Oh yeah, you can. Whoops.

    • @physicsdenier793
      @physicsdenier793 4 роки тому +18

      I always thought there weren't any gloves on the pistol and that is was a mistake lol

    • @GoodmansGhost
      @GoodmansGhost 4 роки тому +65

      It is kinda weird how he removes his gloves when punching.

    • @chaptap8376
      @chaptap8376 4 роки тому +22

      I thought those were weird hand wrinkles and not gloves lmao

  • @digital045
    @digital045 4 роки тому +214

    7:00 Well... that escalated quickly

    • @baronofhellfireborne5561
      @baronofhellfireborne5561 3 роки тому +2

      I made a shockwave here ua-cam.com/video/UHeTcLrZjF4/v-deo.html.

    • @Concon12316
      @Concon12316 3 роки тому +29

      @@baronofhellfireborne5561 why are you promoting a completely unrelated video here

    • @LaRavachole
      @LaRavachole 3 роки тому +15

      You'd think that they'd do something like this for Wolfenstein rather than Doom.

    • @Karmeon1982
      @Karmeon1982 3 роки тому +3

      @@LaRavachole yeah fits more but this is hell you never expect.

    • @nathanparcel6860
      @nathanparcel6860 3 роки тому +2

      I know right?

  • @alvianekka80
    @alvianekka80 4 роки тому +32

    8:26
    "DAMN BOI, DAMN BOI HE THICC"

  • @harshith125
    @harshith125 3 роки тому +110

    decino: pictures of gargoyles found in the United States
    Captions: pictures of girls found in the United States

  • @fantastic_fungus7689
    @fantastic_fungus7689 4 роки тому +467

    Everybody gangsta until the eye button starts looking around

  • @mrb4783
    @mrb4783 4 роки тому +503

    I was always told when making 3d models to use lots of real world reference even if what you are making is completely unrealistic and that really shows in this video

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 4 роки тому +83

      Yes! It'll give you great ideas on shape, texture, and lighting, studying real life is how you make the unrealistic look convincingly realistic.

    • @onioncutterninja1535
      @onioncutterninja1535 4 роки тому +8

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine true, anyways, people don't poop their pants playing doom because they're gonna die, but because of the realistic graphics.

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah, even painting or drawing, having real world references is really important.

    • @strappedwithkrylon
      @strappedwithkrylon 4 роки тому +8

      One of the monsters in Silent Hill is based on a person who is wearing a hoodie (with the hood up) while listening to music and having his hands in the pockets of the hoodie.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 4 роки тому +15

      I remember that advice for drawing fantasy art in particular says to pay special attention to the ordinary and mundane.
      To make the fantastical look believable, you have to make the ordinary, normal, everyday details look as realistic as you can.
      The more fantastical your artwork is overall the more important these details are to making it feel believable.
      Unless of course your entire art style is abstract or stylised.
      But even then it helps to understand reality to break it in creative ways...

  • @brun0z691
    @brun0z691 4 роки тому +271

    When you find out that one of the gargoyle heads is in your home town 😳😳😳😳

    • @deceseze
      @deceseze 4 роки тому +50

      press it and you'll finish your life with 100% secrets

    • @brun0z691
      @brun0z691 4 роки тому +21

      jojo's big ass damn straight

    • @TSFCParodies
      @TSFCParodies 3 роки тому +12

      When you find out that one of your toy gun in your hosue is the bfg😳😳😳😳

  • @nibblrrr7124
    @nibblrrr7124 3 роки тому +22

    0:35 "The real life variant can be found at the Rodent Museum in Pennsylvania, Hell."
    🐁😈

  • @MarphitimusBlackimus
    @MarphitimusBlackimus 4 роки тому +1325

    The Revenant latex model was not recast after it was captured. The footage at 8:52 showing the Revenant model on the spinning base is the same model seen at 8:59. The reason for the visual difference is that Gregor Punchatz went back to his models after the game was complete and touched them up for later public display, in particular giving the Revenant a more elaborate and detailed paint job. During this process, he did recast the Spider Mastermind and Mancubus models (just the latex portions, not the metal bits), but he did specifically confirm that he did not recast the Revenant or Arch-vile models. He has also stated that he kept the original Spider Mastermind skin (which he's posted several pictures of) but threw away the original Mancubus skin. I'd link the source where he provided this confirmation, but UA-cam would mark this comment as spam, so I recommend looking up the "Magnanimous Mancubus Model Mystery" thread on Doomworld. The Revenant's armor was apparently pulled apart during the course of the model's touch ups, and id did keep these pieces with the model for some time, but they either separated them, lost them, or threw them away a while ago, hence why the armor hasn't been seen in many years.
    Also, the rumor of the realistic-looking hanging corpse graphics being based on photos of the real life hanging of Mussolini or one of his cohorts is easy to prove false. Those real life photos show bodies hanging upside down by their feet, but if you look at the Doom hanging corpse sprites at 6:44, you can see the coat/vest on most of the bodies is dangling towards the legs, indicating they either digitized a toy or hand drew a body that was hanging right side up and simply flipped it vertically, resulting in the gravity-defying clothing physics on most of the upside down corpses. Rather then having their artists spend precious time needlessly redrawing graphics specifically for the Jaguar port (which was being developed alongside the much more important and still rushed Doom 2), it's much more likely that the Jaguar port unintentionally pulled older, less-refined versions of the textures (which there are many demonstrable instances of elsewhere), ergo why they look different at 6:49.

    • @decino
      @decino  4 роки тому +329

      The nerd has spoken once again. Good stuff.

    • @ONI_LONI
      @ONI_LONI 4 роки тому +15

      So Blackimus, any plans to come back? I kinda miss you brah

    • @MarphitimusBlackimus
      @MarphitimusBlackimus 4 роки тому +96

      @@ONI_LONI I never left. I've just been extremely busy with not enough time to dedicate to making a video, but all the efforts needed to research and prepare for making videos has always remained ongoing.

    • @Preinstallable
      @Preinstallable 4 роки тому +21

      @@decino top 10 anime crossovers
      decino and marphitimusblackimus

    • @giomar6762
      @giomar6762 4 роки тому +4

      @@decino I'm making a full walkthrough of freedoom nightmare mode

  • @TroutButter
    @TroutButter 4 роки тому +577

    4:25 Wow, I never knew the chaingun in doom was from that toy gun. I have that toy gun! I still remember as a kid seeing it in a store and getting excited because I was obsessed with the minigun at the time. This thing would take batteries (which I think are in the "magazine" at the bottom) and rotate the barrel, light up the ends of the barrel, make pew pew sounds and also accepted paper caps (you can see on the side where it's kind of red).

    • @Labyrinth6000
      @Labyrinth6000 2 роки тому +13

      Imagine if you modded the circuit board to have the sounds effects be replaced with the chaingun firing sounds

    • @itsd0nk
      @itsd0nk Рік тому +2

      Oh crap, I remember that now! Toy guns that took those rolls of paper caps. The 90's were awesome lol.

    • @Toasty_Woasty12
      @Toasty_Woasty12 Рік тому +2

      If you can find it online can you send the link here? I would love to see and possibly buy it

    • @etwoah
      @etwoah Рік тому

      How much you want for the chaingun

    • @ExtraThiccc
      @ExtraThiccc 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Toasty_Woasty12I believe it's called "devastator", just remember to specify "tootsie toy"

  • @SyberianLynx
    @SyberianLynx 3 роки тому +34

    7:38 lads and gents, we've found the original Marauder!

  • @AngryCheeseGirl
    @AngryCheeseGirl Рік тому +44

    Honestly, knowing Adrian Carmack's fascination with gore and horror, I wouldn't be surprised if the rumor at 6:51 ended up being true. It feels perfectly in-character for him to use such a disturbing reference.

  • @TomDolby
    @TomDolby 4 роки тому +183

    Just when I think I know all the interesting facts about Doom's development, Decino: "But wait, there's more!"

  • @Ashachi
    @Ashachi 4 роки тому +602

    Welcome to doom school, your teacher: decino.
    Would be interesting to know if there was anything special behind the sounds of doom.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 роки тому +92

      Expect a LOT of camel and emu sound effects.

    • @McJerb
      @McJerb 4 роки тому +51

      A behind the sounds video would be dope

    • @jakeman025
      @jakeman025 4 роки тому +24

      Those sounds are tattooed on to my brain hearing them as a child still scares me to this day

    • @criticallyconk4944
      @criticallyconk4944 4 роки тому +6

      *IDEA*

    • @npc_blob1609
      @npc_blob1609 4 роки тому +29

      Archvile death is a girl saying "why" looped 3 times, pitched down and mixed with other sfx

  • @Palpus_X
    @Palpus_X Рік тому +20

    The Cyberdemon sketch looks exactly like the Tyrant in Doom Eternal. It's so cool to see how they got inspired by this source material

    • @decino
      @decino  Рік тому +17

      Can't believe they stole art from Doom Eternal smh my head.

  • @caslaBBalsac
    @caslaBBalsac 4 роки тому +14

    7:41
    Thank God, I was beginning to wonder if ANYONE else would EVER notice that resemblence.

  • @mastermind4499
    @mastermind4499 4 роки тому +194

    1:12 - also interesting fact: in Doom 2016 Snapmap that texture was actually used as a switch

  • @JeffreyPiatt
    @JeffreyPiatt 4 роки тому +39

    Doom also contains a ton of upscaled recycled wall tiles originally made for Wolfenstine 3D like the jagged light brown rock walls.

  • @kingrhys9445
    @kingrhys9445 3 роки тому +74

    Holy crap, that sketch of the Baron of Hell is so badass.

  • @Mostlyharmless1985
    @Mostlyharmless1985 3 роки тому +16

    "First before we start i want to talk to you about an app"
    *Hovers finger over right arrow"
    "No wait it's a book"
    Me: Go oooooon...

  • @AlexeiVoronin
    @AlexeiVoronin 4 роки тому +112

    1:04 - Recently I found this exact same lion head in The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall, a DOS game from 1996.

    • @JONAHcrBL4CKDR4GON
      @JONAHcrBL4CKDR4GON 4 роки тому +3

      o3o....
      SKRIIIIIIIIIIII!
      O3O!

    • @reddagger3602
      @reddagger3602 3 роки тому +1

      Jonathan Aguilar What?

    • @Wylde_
      @Wylde_ 3 роки тому +1

      @@JONAHcrBL4CKDR4GON what?

    • @JONAHcrBL4CKDR4GON
      @JONAHcrBL4CKDR4GON 3 роки тому +1

      @@Wylde_ e3e ..... look the image photo of alexei.....

    • @Necoarc1999
      @Necoarc1999 3 роки тому

      @@JONAHcrBL4CKDR4GON you’re putting a thing that’s no related to doom fucker

  • @executor34
    @executor34 4 роки тому +227

    8:17 WOAH, I have seen the title screen countless times, but I never realised that there are monsters infighting in the background!

    • @4Wilko
      @4Wilko 4 роки тому +28

      I noticed the Baron, but I never realized that was a Doomguy he was mangling.

    • @diamondsmasher
      @diamondsmasher 4 роки тому +7

      Now I can’t stop seeing the perspective issues on the Doom guy in that title screen....his head seems so tiny compared to the body.

    • @tristankoppenhaver2096
      @tristankoppenhaver2096 4 роки тому +1

      I can't unsee the monsters fighting now

    • @IngoPagels
      @IngoPagels 4 роки тому +1

      EXACTLY what I did not saw too! x.xPlus I missed the gorilla right under the shootgun.

    • @AB0VETHALAW
      @AB0VETHALAW 4 роки тому

      @@IngoPagels he's gibbed a doom guy

  • @XenoSpyro
    @XenoSpyro 4 роки тому +36

    Those wall switches kind of reveal how ingenious Duke3D was. The sprites themselves are usable so you're not wasting disk space having a duplicate wall texture for every switch, and as a bonus you only have to care about alignment while mapmaking.

    • @coldacid
      @coldacid 9 місяців тому +1

      While there were different wall textures for each switch state, you need to keep in mind that wall textures in the Doom engine are just lists of graphics "patches" rather than full-size images. It was actually a very clever way of storing and reusing graphics elements between different textures, and the actual wall texture bitmaps would be created in memory by the engine.

  • @NoriMori1992
    @NoriMori1992 2 роки тому +21

    "We say that an author is _original_ when we cannot trace the hidden transformations that others underwent in [their] mind."
    Honestly it's one of my favourite things to learn what real life thing devs based something on and then transformed to the point of unrecognizability. It's so fun.

  • @killerhertzmercedes
    @killerhertzmercedes 4 роки тому +100

    The revenant is far more sinister in doom 2 without any eyeballs, rather than the glowing ones in subsequent games.

    • @EnjoyCocaColaLight
      @EnjoyCocaColaLight 4 роки тому +7

      yup.
      Original DooM had scary monsters. Modern doom has cartoony monsters.

    • @phantomspaceman
      @phantomspaceman 4 роки тому +6

      @@EnjoyCocaColaLight The original Doom has the Pinky demon, which looks like a Ray Harryhausen sculpture.

    • @shackilleuhdeal7462
      @shackilleuhdeal7462 4 роки тому +1

      @@phantomspaceman The pinkies are the Terror Dogs from Ghostbusters.

    • @shackilleuhdeal7462
      @shackilleuhdeal7462 4 роки тому +17

      ​@Tane Rameka 2016 demons (except the Hellknight) are just updated versions of the OG demons. Nothing was more cartoony than the OG Spider-Mastermind looking like a big-ass version of Krang from TMNT. They are both cartoony except for the OG Archvile, that thing was creepy nightmare fuel.
      Doom 3 is the one with the scary monster design. It's just a shame that game was just a glorified tech demo and not true DOOM game.

    • @TheSurrealBoye
      @TheSurrealBoye 4 роки тому +11

      The Revenant's roaming *'REURGH'* sound is, like, utter nightmare fuel.

  • @BSzili
    @BSzili 4 роки тому +46

    That Caco looking around in the thumbnail gives me the willies. Someone has to make a mod where the eyes switches and Cacodemons follow the target with their eye.

  • @alphamakesstuff
    @alphamakesstuff 4 роки тому +31

    The unused gibs are used for the spider masterminds corpse

  • @zedsdeadbaby
    @zedsdeadbaby 2 роки тому +11

    7:31 I like how this exact design was used for the tyrant in doom eternal

  • @TheUKNutter
    @TheUKNutter 4 роки тому +52

    9:08 Looks like the moving eye switch got used for the Cacodemon. Nice

  • @mozkitolife5437
    @mozkitolife5437 4 роки тому +85

    When I retire, one of my ToDos is travel around the world visiting doom art inspirations.

  • @Batakanta
    @Batakanta 2 роки тому +15

    Extra fun fact: The unused Quake like gibs at 6:37 can be seen in some of the Spider Mastermind's death sprites and in it's corpse sprite.

  • @fadedgames1
    @fadedgames1 4 роки тому +14

    5:15 Oh, so *THAT'S* why it looks like a vaccum cleaner! Kinda think of it... I'm a bit dissapointed that it wasn't based off of one...

  • @toretronio9030
    @toretronio9030 4 роки тому +877

    A question that has been bothering me for quite some time: Is Doomguy's face actually based on the face of a real guy? I can't find info about this and it appears to be hand-drawn

    • @Pirateyware
      @Pirateyware 4 роки тому +475

      Considering he bears a striking resemblance to the HUD heads in Wolfenstein 3D and Catacomb 3D, I think it's safe to say that's just how Adrian draws dudes' faces.

    • @h7oda793
      @h7oda793 4 роки тому +120

      @@Pirateyware I know that the guy in Wolfenstein is based on real guy.

    • @belandino
      @belandino 4 роки тому +86

      I've always wondered about this as well. I've posted about this on Doomworld forums 10 years ago or so, but I've never got an answer.

    • @belandino
      @belandino 4 роки тому +58

      @@h7oda793 Really? That's very interesting, where did you find all the informations about this?

    • @h7oda793
      @h7oda793 4 роки тому +19

      @@belandino I don't remember i was just watching a video about Wolfenstein.

  • @thewayfayer3268
    @thewayfayer3268 4 роки тому +123

    1:35 That also could have been an indicator for a timed switch, you press it and it starts with all the lights on, and then they slowly fade until all of them are off.

  • @giantqtipz6577
    @giantqtipz6577 3 роки тому +46

    at 0:20 the automatic closed caption says
    "a beautiful book with photos of girls found in the united states"
    very nice decino

  • @3DGECASE
    @3DGECASE 4 роки тому +8

    2:02 That's a photo of a Gravis Ultrasound! (GUS Classic specifically)

    • @3DGECASE
      @3DGECASE 4 роки тому +3

      And the other circuit board is a photo of the end of the same card but recolored black.

    • @itsumbree2
      @itsumbree2 Рік тому +2

      Good eye, I couldn't spot that!

  • @here4good
    @here4good 4 роки тому +24

    8:46 not sure why, but I just love how there's someone's hands on the bottom right corner manually turning the table

  • @JoseJimenez-hw5ss
    @JoseJimenez-hw5ss 4 роки тому +74

    Who would have thought that DOOM had so many secrets, even more impressive is that decino created so much content only from DOOM 1 and 2.

  • @midorifox
    @midorifox 2 роки тому +11

    7:07 that speculation was debunked a while ago, it was a G.I. Joe toy.

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul 3 роки тому +15

    1:40 - If it had been me, I would have gone through every one of those switch graphics and made sure that they were all placed exactly the same. I know that nobody would be able to tell in the finished game, but I would have done it anyway. :)

  • @ludilka
    @ludilka 4 роки тому +76

    2:15 Holy crap, I always suspected this texture is just someone's hairy arm!

  • @1337133713371337
    @1337133713371337 4 роки тому +26

    A video directly after a 9 hour stream? You sure spoil us decino. Those were a lot of very intresting findings.

  • @Theffs-handle
    @Theffs-handle 3 роки тому +11

    3:14 why did I think that was a picture of 9/11?

  • @dick_cheney
    @dick_cheney 4 роки тому +6

    6:33 Pogchamp

  • @Blappyboop
    @Blappyboop 4 роки тому +65

    Hearing decino sound energetic makes me feel happy.

  • @CsubAzUrmedve
    @CsubAzUrmedve 4 роки тому +32

    I heard back in the day that the developers used a wounded body part as texture. Never knew it was real. It was only a rumor I once heard and never again but somehow stuck with me.

    • @SoldierOfFate
      @SoldierOfFate 3 роки тому +1

      That wounded body part was supposed to be from Kevin Cloud's knee.

  • @du4lstrik3
    @du4lstrik3 2 роки тому +6

    5:40 All my life the top of the BFG has looked like a face with a mustache.

  • @alexisbaliari
    @alexisbaliari 4 роки тому +5

    7:50 it is said that drawing was originally created by the longer the Icon of Sin remains on Earth, the stronger he becomes.

  • @kediester5393
    @kediester5393 4 роки тому +68

    7:00 damn didnt know id was so based

    • @user-ko9jy4lk9u
      @user-ko9jy4lk9u 4 роки тому +1

      Metal as hell

    • @finkamain1621
      @finkamain1621 3 роки тому +4

      Um hello, BASED department?

    • @Ninjat126
      @Ninjat126 3 роки тому +8

      Fun fact: Mussolini was actually Australian, so really he was at his most comfortable in this picture.

  • @supra107
    @supra107 4 роки тому +63

    6:55 Somehow, I knew this photo was of Mussolini's corpse before decino mentioned him. Also, it was smart to show only the legs and the torso, because Mussolini's face got mauled beyond any recognition.

    • @spacemoose4671
      @spacemoose4671 4 роки тому +9

      The dead GI's graphics are actually lifted from Apocalypse Now when Martin Sheen's crew pulls their boat up to Marlon Brando's compound. Concerns over copyright likely contributed to them being changed for the Genesis (?) version.

    • @CrimsonCrux
      @CrimsonCrux 4 роки тому +5

      @@spacemoose4671 I knew I had seen it from a movie, I was thinking Predator.

  • @OZTutoh
    @OZTutoh 4 роки тому +27

    That was insane about the BFG. The design of that gun captivated my teenage imagination for years and it's almost insulting that it's a kit-bash job. I'd love to know what inspired the in-world pick-up icon because I was always wondering how you held a weapon like that.

    • @turbochop3300
      @turbochop3300 Рік тому +1

      I know this is a few years late, but the doom comic takes a stab at showing what it looks like to hold to BFG...

    • @OZTutoh
      @OZTutoh Рік тому +3

      @@turbochop3300 A stab definitely. The one that I found has the mechanical-arm-like stock, but is missing the overhead hand-grip. I'd share my artistic interpretation but I don't like sharing HTML links publically.

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ Рік тому

      @@OZTutoh it won't kill you to copy and paste a link, otherwise don't bring it up in the first place, dick

  • @Fenrize
    @Fenrize 3 роки тому +11

    It would be interesting if a game was made today in the 1993's methods by making character models by capturing their poses on a camera i.e. stopmotion style. The thing is, making a good looking character from clay is hard as hell and it would really go on to show the efforts and love put in their designs. And seeing the quality of the cameras today and with some the ability to smoothly do 360 capture makes me really wonder how it would look. Idk if this makes sense, I'm tired. But I just thought how many character models seem somehow like 'factory products' mostly because they're fully 3D, which sadly doesn't always require a whole lot of creativity.

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 2 роки тому +3

      I've been thinking of this for years. I love the "surreal" ish quality of pre rendered textures and models so much too!!

    • @Trynt33
      @Trynt33 Рік тому +2

      The closest that comes to mind are these pretty cool RPGs called Hylics. The stories doesn't make any sense but they use stopmotion clay style for their graphics with an RPG battle system and it's fascinating to watch

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Trynt33The original Fallout also comes to mind. I believe they used clay model scans for the world sprites and talking heads.

  • @Zinfidel1
    @Zinfidel1 4 роки тому +36

    2:42 Dude. Growing up, Chinese restaurants reminded me of Doom because they always had pictures of those mountains! I didn't know Doom featured the actual mountains! Awesome. I love this channel.

  • @makhauser42
    @makhauser42 4 роки тому +54

    I am not sure, but wasn't the bunny head hanged on the zombieman's hand?
    Great video, another proof the game was far ahead of the time

    • @decino
      @decino  4 роки тому +16

      It's impaled.

    • @makhauser42
      @makhauser42 4 роки тому +10

      @@decino yeah, my bad of missing some basic English words, damn. I read few years ago that it is actually an arm not a pike, but have not thought of it as a part of a body in my childhood

    • @christiancox972
      @christiancox972 4 роки тому +5

      i always assumed it was doomguy clutching the rabbit's severed head

    • @christiancox972
      @christiancox972 4 роки тому +5

      @Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 i guess it would be more sensible that it's a head on a pike. what might look like arm hair is its woodgrain.
      i guess my mind jumped to it being doomguy's arm because of the text and the fact that you can't see the spike coming out of the top of the head.
      also he would have remarkably spindly arms for such a macho guy

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 3 роки тому +9

    In Doom, there's an unused enemy named the blob, in Doom 2, they used it to become the inside of a pain elemental.

    • @eugene_iodine_psychedelia1960s
      @eugene_iodine_psychedelia1960s Рік тому

      (In Quake) Blue Blob-Snot explosive creepers are very distubing (for my nerves).

    • @eljaminlatour6633
      @eljaminlatour6633 Рік тому +1

      @@eugene_iodine_psychedelia1960s yeah, I hate them as well. They sound unpleasant and they bounce and harass you at pleasure.

  • @levandrone
    @levandrone 2 роки тому +5

    1:17
    Weird, I thought that eye does move in the game. At least I remember looking at how it moves and blinks when I was little and played the game back when.

  • @BigMacDavis
    @BigMacDavis 4 роки тому +83

    I've learned more from your videos than I've learned in the 20 years I've been Dooming. Keep it up, super sexy decino.

  • @MrKevin486
    @MrKevin486 4 роки тому +44

    I would love a version of doom that showed the entire sprites for the weapons.

    • @emin166
      @emin166 3 роки тому +1

      @Gold Source That doesnt give the full sprites

    • @brutalblam3909
      @brutalblam3909 2 роки тому

      Play with the largest screen size on pretty much any sourceport. No HUD bar, just some elements off to the side.

    • @laxative_goofy
      @laxative_goofy 2 роки тому +1

      yeah because in gzdoom when you go full it doesnt show the full sprite

    • @sanderhackerhd8369
      @sanderhackerhd8369 2 роки тому

      This mod is exist

  • @basicallysnake
    @basicallysnake 2 роки тому +4

    7:26 in early alphas of doom you can see a sprite version of the "inside the helmet" drawing as the hud

  • @driv3563
    @driv3563 3 роки тому +3

    4:00 I love that you can see the plastics seem or however you call it.

  • @captainjurgh8142
    @captainjurgh8142 4 роки тому +11

    Wait, you have a promotion now too? You can't do that!
    0:27
    Aaaaah you got me there

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 4 роки тому +53

    Decino from the bottom of my heart: THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO. Since '93 I have been wondering what the hell (no pun intended...) the texture you've now identified as a photo of the Athena & Nike sculpture was. And now I know. Thank you so much.

    • @kveller555
      @kveller555 4 роки тому +2

      That's in Doom 2, so you probably mean '94 ;) Anyhow, I remember being mesmerized by that texture as a kid. I always thought it was really creepy, especially in Monster Condo because of the music.

  • @thecolorpurple4807
    @thecolorpurple4807 3 роки тому +7

    3:53
    Now that shotgun doesn’t have a pistol grip, yet the sprite shows Doom Guy holding something underneath. In that case, he must have his index finger on the trigger while the rest of his fingers is clenched in a fist.
    There’s nothing I can say except that’s the funniest shit I’ve realized all week.

  • @Daud76
    @Daud76 3 роки тому +13

    This is a really good and interesting topic. It is fascinating how ID made these graphics. To me, at 6:44 I think graphic of man hanging upside down on top left looks remarkably similar to upside down king who drops down from top of screen after you have defeated Death Adder in the Sega game, Golden Axe (PC version).

    • @beeswithchainsaws
      @beeswithchainsaws 2 роки тому +1

      Could you link a clip?

    • @Daud76
      @Daud76 2 роки тому +2

      @@beeswithchainsaws No problem. Here is the link. Watch the ending where Death Adder is defeated:
      ua-cam.com/video/Etr8-L06wmg/v-deo.html

  • @SiFi270
    @SiFi270 4 роки тому +50

    The painting at 1:52 also appears to be a lower resolution version of a texture from Shadowcaster, a game by Raven using an engine id lent them that was technologically between Wolf3D and Doom, but wasn't suited for games as fast paced as those.
    The Super Shotgun frame at 4:21 seems to suggest it was pumped like the regular shotgun. Originally I saw someone else come to that conclusion but didn't think one frame was enough to be sure, but if you access the Super Shotgun with the 1.5 or 1.6 shareware beta, the way the frames are ordered and the sounds played also support this. Doomkid explains it better than I do in this video (ua-cam.com/video/shEUJIKon-E/v-deo.html), at 6:31 and 12:45
    Finally the front part of the BFG seen at 5:24 seems to have been recycled by Tom Hall for the Firebomb in Rise of the Triad.

    • @Seb-Storm
      @Seb-Storm 4 роки тому

      I always saw that like seems is going to pump it with the left hand and then magically the left hand is putting two shells in the barrels. I like to think is just recoil from shooting 2 blasts at once and then doomguy reloads the ssg which would make sense

    • @sdsmuseumoftheweirdstripex6489
      @sdsmuseumoftheweirdstripex6489 4 роки тому

      I like to think that the Super Shotgun has to be pumped in order to break open. This, a pump n’ break action, double barreled shotgun.

  • @vurdenn
    @vurdenn 4 роки тому +8

    that explosion at the beginning made me happy

  • @OmegaTakenZ
    @OmegaTakenZ Рік тому +4

    7:18 Daisy has her mouth closed in the original drawing but in-game it looks way more brutal. It shows daisy with a dropped jaw. And in Episode 4 's Ending where Doom Guy holds Daisy's Head in his hand you can see that she has her jaw dropped because of how Doom Guy squeezes her ears of anger for killing his sweet bunny.

  • @tuomasgaming4210
    @tuomasgaming4210 3 роки тому +4

    Decino: so there's this super epic mobile app called...
    Captions: so there's this super epic mobile app cult

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 4 роки тому +133

    9:07 - Don't know why, but I find the Cacodemons with the eye switch's moving eye to be very unnerving. 🙈

    • @parsaraeis2246
      @parsaraeis2246 4 роки тому +5

      Dunno if you see it, but they kinda remind me of the treasure eaters from Commander Keen: Goodbye Galaxy

    • @oneil4252
      @oneil4252 4 роки тому

      Probably because it's so abstract.

    • @strongcomedian123
      @strongcomedian123 4 роки тому

      Are there any wads that use the moving eye texture by any chance?

    • @wallyhackenslacker
      @wallyhackenslacker 4 роки тому

      To me it looks funny! There is something with the cacodemon sprite that changing it's eyeball makes it look so goofy. Like the two-eyed cacodemon from Pirate Doom, funniest thing I have ever seen in a Doom wad!

    • @StraightOuttaJarhois
      @StraightOuttaJarhois 4 роки тому

      You just know that shifty-eyed cacodemon is up to something.

  • @handlessuck589
    @handlessuck589 4 роки тому +4

    I love you Despacito and the yellow background (tm)
    This channel is such a fantastic source of not only the game of Doom but its inner workings as well. An effort to make us all knowledgable about a work of art from 93.

  • @TheKiller1922
    @TheKiller1922 4 роки тому +6

    The revenant at 8:59 looks pretty similar to its later incarnation in Doom 2016, except for the armour bits. I really hope the latter is a tribute and not a simple design choice.

  • @maskedmotorsdiy3575
    @maskedmotorsdiy3575 4 роки тому +5

    I hit the spacebar at 0:28 just from 1990's muscle memory

  • @Stevesie
    @Stevesie 4 роки тому +9

    5:30 holy crap I had one of those as a kid

  • @idd_cutie1274
    @idd_cutie1274 4 роки тому +74

    1:56 In all my years of playing DOOM I have never noticed that

    • @ankui6031
      @ankui6031 4 роки тому

      I thought it was just random drawings

  • @wadmodderschalton5763
    @wadmodderschalton5763 3 роки тому +4

    Kevin Cloud's hand are also used on the chainsaw, pistol shotgun, super shotgun & plasma rifle. (5:59)

  • @TheBreakingBenny
    @TheBreakingBenny 4 роки тому +6

    0:23 I've seen that gargoyle graphic in the Harry Potter games, 1 through 2 on PC.

  • @AmyraCarter
    @AmyraCarter 4 роки тому +39

    1:24 I've played many a game where the background decor does that kind of stuff.
    Speaking of gargoyles, there's a temple ruin west of the academy I attend that has four of them on the corners of the stone slab floor (it's all that is left); they face towards the center and they all have two heads with four curved horns akin to rams on each head. They're basalt sculptures of gadorika, guardians of wayward spirits against ghost-killers (essentially people who hunted wayward spirits for aetheric energy). The pose they're in is a sad, mournful bow; as I understand, the temple ruin once was a temple of grief (for those to come to grieve their lost loved ones).

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 4 роки тому +5

      I love gargoyle sculptures. Are there pictures of these online?

    • @AmyraCarter
      @AmyraCarter 4 роки тому +3

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Well, yes, of course there are. Of the ones I mentioned? Maybe; I cannot vouch for other people/cultures having revered them specifically so I can only wish you luck in that regard.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 4 роки тому +3

      @@AmyraCarter I meant the ones from the ruins you were talking about.

    • @AmyraCarter
      @AmyraCarter 4 роки тому +1

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Oh. No, not that I know of anyway...

  • @n4n4k1
    @n4n4k1 4 роки тому +18

    I absolutely love the content you put out man, keep at it. I credit Doom as one of my biggest influences overall ; learning how to use WAD editors and DeHackEd around 8 or 9 years old catapulted me into a life-long hobby/obsession that became a lucrative career.

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 2 роки тому

      What do you do these days?

    • @n4n4k1
      @n4n4k1 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@seronymus network and security administration in the medical research industry :)

  • @shiba2ndworlder
    @shiba2ndworlder 3 роки тому +4

    2:24 These textures are actually used, but not only as fireblue.
    The one at the left resembles the ZIMMER4 texture, and the one on the right (if you look closely) resembles SP_ROCK1,SP_ROCK2 and ROCKRED textures.

  • @randybutternubs4647
    @randybutternubs4647 3 роки тому +5

    Killing Time on the 3DO was such an underrated gem. I would love to see it get a remake.