Triumph Speed Twin 1200 - Old or New

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @marktiller1383
    @marktiller1383 2 місяці тому +19

    I accidentally swallowed a fly last week and then my wife told me off for eating between meals. I love the twin clocks best. It's a shame that they are not on all bikes.

    • @MsDenver2
      @MsDenver2 Місяць тому +2

      @@marktiller1383 very good,you made me laugh 😂🤣

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂 thanks Mark 😂😂😂

    • @mikerider58
      @mikerider58 Місяць тому +4

      Love the old clocks but l suspect those digital screens are cheaper.
      They did the same thing with watches ⌚️ years ago.

  • @edwardsenesac
    @edwardsenesac 2 місяці тому +2

    Marvelous! I had the 2020 Speed Twin 1200. Great bike and easy to ride. Engine would quit in sport mode as a known issue. I rode it from northern Vermont to Miami.
    Beginning in 2021 Triumph went with upside down forks. This changed the look and there were no longer fork booties. Handling probably vastly improved. I thought it was good to begin with. Did also have a front brake rotor problem too as a known issue. It was replaced. All of those problems were worked out and redesigned for 2021. And now another big change at present for this model.

  • @iantownsend17
    @iantownsend17 2 місяці тому +5

    No more twin clocks!! O no 😔. Great review mate and a beautiful bike 👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂 I know right 😂😂😂 thanks Ian 😁

  • @ironside65
    @ironside65 Місяць тому +1

    That Triumph just sounds gorgeous, something else for the dream Christmas list!

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      I think so 😁 thanks Ironside😁

  • @tomstockell9481
    @tomstockell9481 Місяць тому +4

    Good to hear youre 'breaking the wind ' better on the Thruxton 😂 but seriously thanks for the insights...T100 still my fav and one to aim for

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂 thanks Tom 😁

  • @simonbowen6653
    @simonbowen6653 2 місяці тому +4

    I love the twin clocks on my T100, a TFT is doubtless cheaper but looks it too. The new basic Speed Twin lacks too much kit which came standard on the outgoing, better looking model.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks Simon 😁

  • @MRo55i74
    @MRo55i74 2 місяці тому +6

    Get the current speed 1200 and add new rear shocks and you’ll have a better bike than the new standard model for less money and you get those gorgeous twin clocks, that’s the option I’m looking at 👍

    • @bruceleong9534
      @bruceleong9534 2 місяці тому +2

      I have a 2023 Speed Twin with Nitron shocks and fork cartridges built for my weight. Very happy 😊

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +2

      Brilliant idea😁 thanks MR😁

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +2

      Excellent 😁 just out of interest, what did that cost? 😁 thanks Bruce 😁

    • @bruceleong9534
      @bruceleong9534 Місяць тому

      @@TAYM that was AUD $5500 from Nitron plus fitment by the dealer I bought the bike from.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +2

      @ interesting 🤔 not cheap then.😁 thanks Bruce😁

  • @raymorris952
    @raymorris952 2 місяці тому +3

    You are 100% correct , thats been my gripe with all the retro Triumph bikes, apart from the Thruxton the suspension is under parr, So they put all the bits off the Thruxton that you wanted on the speed twin, then ruined it with the CLOCK ! 😮, so for me a Thruxton with straight bars would be my choice.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Exactly right 😁 thanks Ray 😁

  • @daintree2455
    @daintree2455 2 місяці тому +2

    The Thruxton twins torque is the talk of the town...it's Triumphant Thanks TAYM.😊😊

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂 thanks DT 😁

  • @MerciaMoto
    @MerciaMoto Місяць тому +2

    I absolutely love my Speed Twin TAYM, your review encouraged me to buy it as you know. I traded by Yamaha Tracer 9 GT for it and was dubious about whether it was going to be suitable as a touring bike? Our tour of Ireland back in August buried any doubts I had and i loved spending a whole week riding it every day, I absolutely love it and the clocks are iconic I reckon. I loved my Thruxton and was sad to see it go but my wrists just couldn't cope with the strain unfortunately, definitely no wrist ache with the Speed Twin 😃👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks MM 😁 yes, very sad to see the clocks go 😕

  • @AliasMrHackenbacker
    @AliasMrHackenbacker 2 місяці тому +4

    I must admit I prefer the looks of this model to the new RS model. I'm not keen on the "barcode" tank paint scheme and the single digital clock and the price rise! I will have a close look at the new Triumphs when I go to the NEC show. I'm still considering a T100.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      I think a lot of people will think the same 😁 thanks MrH 😁

    • @fyorbane
      @fyorbane Місяць тому

      Look at the current Stealth edition 1200 Speed Twin. Really nice paint job [better than standard model] and obviously the twin clocks. I would buy the Stealth edition and just buy a good set of aftermarket twin rear shocks for my weight and riding style [Nitron do a nice set]. You will have a better looking bike than the new 2025 Speed Twin. Ok ,you won't have an IMU or quickshifter but do you really need that on a retro?

  • @speedtwin-dan
    @speedtwin-dan 2 місяці тому +2

    I'll be keeping my twin clock speed twin - what are they thinking with that new clock, also not a fan of Gold forks on retro styled bikes but I could do with nicking the rear suspension of the RS or a Thruxton though :)

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂 thanks ST 😁

  • @pistolpete6321
    @pistolpete6321 Місяць тому +1

    Great review!

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Pete😁

  • @matthewhaag2138
    @matthewhaag2138 Місяць тому

    I have a 23 model & making my own R version it’s a keeper 25s NO CLOCKS NO DEAL🤔Great Review of the 24ST1200👍👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks Matt 😁 I think a lot will feel the same 😁

  • @albundy643
    @albundy643 2 місяці тому +3

    Good morning everyone 😊

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Morning Al 😁😂😂

  • @scoothome
    @scoothome 2 місяці тому +3

    Candy apple in the states. 😊

    • @matthewhaag2138
      @matthewhaag2138 Місяць тому

      Yes but u better jury if u want one Triumph of Indy US has some before the 25 r m stock👍👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks Scoot 😁

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      I think there will be a rush for them 😁 the new ones aren’t cheap 😕 thanks Matt 😁

  • @rottweilerfun9520
    @rottweilerfun9520 15 днів тому +1

    I'm seriously considering picking up a new 2023 since it's my favorite as far as looks. I can put Ohlins on the back , upgrade the oil and springs in the front , and do the usual to get more horses out of it.
    Any ideas about doing that , or do you have a 2023 that you've upgraded like that ?

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  15 днів тому

      Those Twin clocks are pretty valuable I think 🤔 so splashing out and upgrading the 23 model suspension seems like a good plan 😁 thanks Rottie 😁

  • @redhedhair
    @redhedhair 2 місяці тому +2

    Twin clocks everyday of the week Taym 👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  2 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely 😁 thanks D😁

  • @logangodofcandy
    @logangodofcandy 2 місяці тому +1

    I wanted a shorter sporty bike to compliment my 1200XC.... So, I got the bobber.
    I have to try one of these eventually

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂 brilliant 😂😂 thanks Logan 😁

  • @bruceleong9534
    @bruceleong9534 2 місяці тому +2

    The “digital” style instruments on the new 2025 Speed Twin aren’t a patch on the twin dials of the current model.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Totally agree 😁 thanks Bruce 😁

  • @debenhamdave4314
    @debenhamdave4314 2 місяці тому +1

    Recently test rode the Speed twin 1200, followed by the T100 and preferred the smaller 900cc engine. Despite that a used Thruxton would be my choice of Bonneville, also its a shame the Speed twin is losing the duel analogue clocks. Thanks Mr Taym

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      I agree 😁 lovely bike the T100 😁

  • @TommieTrumper-TFC1200
    @TommieTrumper-TFC1200 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello Mr T, I always wondered why they didn’t do a Speed Twin RS like they did with the Truxton. I would have got one instead of the Speed Triple RR but I was always put off by the 2nd rate suspension, which I felt didn’t match the rest of the equipment and style. I am tempted to swop the RR for the Speed RS but the clock change is holding me back as I feel it’s another cheap out again. Excellent vid tho thanks please keep up the great work I really appreciate your vids and commentary!

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Without doubt, manufacturers seem to be always looking to save money and pretending their changes are improvements 🤔 thanks TT😁

  • @johnstonstewart9683
    @johnstonstewart9683 Місяць тому +2

    Love my T120 ,I altered the gearing and now I can use sixth gear at sensible speeds....but I agree that the handling needs work. Hopefully I can address that problem shortly. I'd love to know what others have done to sort the handling......

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks Stewart 😁 I think tyres are very influential on them and know a lot of people upgrade rear shocks and change the springs and oil in the forks. I know some of the fixes for the snatchy throttle work for some of them but don’t seem to work for all of them. But like I say, none of it is a massive problem as it is. 😁

  • @davidnunnerley9084
    @davidnunnerley9084 2 місяці тому

    Love it.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  2 місяці тому

      Thanks David 😁

  • @cecilwilson5442
    @cecilwilson5442 Місяць тому

    That's a great video of the bike as I'd like to be in the position of buying one,, also the BMW 9T but think it would be the triumph,, with the engine configuration and power,,☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland getting a lottery ticket,, increase the garage and contents 🙂🙂🙂🙂

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      thanks Cecil 😁 I dream of it 😁

  • @adrianwalker7189
    @adrianwalker7189 2 місяці тому

    Triumph don't you just love them, took out the T120 and it was the handling that put me of a bit it was ok but not great, finished up buying the speedmaster must say handling wasn't that much better than the T120 but the look of the speedmaster well just beautiful also very, very comfortable had the bike 20 months now ( from new) and ❤ it.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks Adrian 😁 and very comfortable 😁

  • @kristophertrout7328
    @kristophertrout7328 2 місяці тому

    Carmel apples 🍎 😋 We also take chopped peanuts and sprinkle over that sugar goodness giving a salty peanut kick to them.😋😎

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Wonderful 😁 thanks KT 😁

  • @ianhalliwell8604
    @ianhalliwell8604 Місяць тому +1

    I've been breaking the wind for years, it's an age thing. How much power is enough i feel is also an age thing because as you get older you just can't handle or need a lot of power anymore, or is that just me, my Eliminator suits me fine now.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Ian 😁 yes, exactly. The older I get the more aware I become of my reaction times, strength and balance. 😁

  • @gwynnromano5881
    @gwynnromano5881 2 місяці тому +3

    In the states, it’s a candy apple. Ergo the candy apple red paint popular in the custom car culture. A gold or silver base coat with a translucent red over the top mimicking the candied apple itself.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Yes, that would be marvellous 😁 thanks Gwyn 😁

  • @paulwatts905
    @paulwatts905 Місяць тому

    👍👍🏍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks Paul 😁

  • @GapBahnDirk
    @GapBahnDirk 2 місяці тому

    Breaking wind on a big bike sounds so beneficial 😁😁. I think that the Speed Twin 1200 would taste like a whole box of Mr Kipling's cakes. Tremendous fun 👍👍.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂 thanks GBD 😁

  • @trevjones1315
    @trevjones1315 Місяць тому

    The thruxton needed higher bars or the speed twin needed spoked wheels. 👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks Trev 😁 yes, either would do 😁

  • @markinthemoment
    @markinthemoment 2 місяці тому

    Great bikes 👍👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  2 місяці тому

      Thanks Mark 😁

  • @user-rf9me7xm1w
    @user-rf9me7xm1w 2 місяці тому

    I'd love a new speed twin but my local dealer has ceased trading (gone bust) and it's now difficult for me to access servicing and after market support. I thought Triumph were doing well selling Speed 400's ?

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Thanks G 😁 I assume you are near Nottingham 🤔 if you are referring to Pinnocks, they were a multi franchise I dealer. Very sad, I think they have found someone to save the BMW side but not the rest😕 I wonder how many others will go 🤔

    • @user-rf9me7xm1w
      @user-rf9me7xm1w Місяць тому

      @TAYM Yes, it was Pidcocks, I purchased my street twin from them about four years ago. They were based in Long Eaton. I later downsized to a Yamaha mt 03. I just hope my local Yamaha dealer rides the storm out. (did you see what I did there). Love your channel BTW.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      @ 😂😂😂 my Tiger sport 1050 came from there😁 I did indeed 😂😂😂 thanks G 😁🙄

  • @crumblymal8479
    @crumblymal8479 2 місяці тому +1

    It's a lovely looking bike TAYM and I did want one until I rode it , but for me it was so uncomfortable next to the T120 which kind of hacked me off in a way . Now I find that in the real world the T120 has plenty of everything for me but yes the Speed has better brakes and the back brake on my T120 is nowhere near as good as my old XJR was imo . So the new one will only have one clock like the Speed 900 then hmm not a good move imo , ahh ha TAYM so you took it back early that's just what I did when I road it 😂 (kidding ) .👌👍

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂 thanks Crumb 😁

  • @alandmorley
    @alandmorley 2 місяці тому +1

    Twin clock bikes will hold their value better I think.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  2 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely 😁 thanks Al 😁

  • @paulsilson2148
    @paulsilson2148 2 місяці тому

    That's one sweet machine, and it's called a candy apple in the U S.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  2 місяці тому +1

      Certainly is 😁 thanks Paul 😁 Candy Apple makes much more sense 😁

    • @paulsilson2148
      @paulsilson2148 2 місяці тому

      @@TAYM see that there, sweet ride , candy, I know you did, beeing in the robes n all

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      @@paulsilson2148 😂😂😂😂

  • @colindeans5972
    @colindeans5972 2 місяці тому +2

    Losing the twin clocks is a definite faux pas.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  2 місяці тому

      Totally agree 😁 they claim it’s about fitting a quick shifter🤔 thanks Collin 😁

  • @david.beckenham
    @david.beckenham День тому +1

    Sorry, didn't you burn your knee on the 1200 or it's just me, taking somehow some wrong position?

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  День тому

      Flipping ek 😁 you must be a giant 😂😂 how did you manage that 😂😂 thanks Dave😁

    • @david.beckenham
      @david.beckenham День тому

      @TAYM , unfortunataly the footpegs are a bit behind the ideal spot to me and it changes the angle of my legs. Luckily there is no such problem on my Bonnie. I can see your point, this posture can be helpful over 80mph but luckily for me, as I don't speed anymore, the more upright position is also not a problem.
      And I also agree that the T100 is enough for the real world, and if you buy a bike with a 1200ccm engine the whole bike has to be built adequatly.
      But the T100 is built kinda okayish for that amount of torque.
      All the best for 2025!

  • @frankmlchaelglasscock6539
    @frankmlchaelglasscock6539 Місяць тому +1

    it's got to be the old one for me but I still think you have to go a long way to beat the T100

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely 😁 thanks Frank 😁

  • @volt8684
    @volt8684 2 місяці тому

    Love it except 1200 decals on tank. Prices are so stiff now

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Yes, a bit cheap aren’t they😁 thanks Volt 😁

  • @simongilbert2704
    @simongilbert2704 Місяць тому +2

    when everybody [ seems so ] asks for two clocks -- makers go to a single ;;;are they deaf ?? the new 1200 speed is a replacement for the thruxton ;' [ kind a ] ,, youtube testers say the model you are on is a bit cramped --- which has always put me off a bit --- as it seems to be a great package ;; how are you finding it with your gandalf stature ?? as i am 6..2 ;;

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Simon 😁 I don’t find it cramped but I do find the T120/t100 a bit more comfortable but put that down to sitting more upright 🤔 I think they are changing the clocks because of something to do with the electrics and quick shifters 🤔 bonkers though😕

  • @BlakesPipes
    @BlakesPipes 2 місяці тому

    Blake was here. 😂

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂 thanks Blake 😁

  • @ruahinesrider
    @ruahinesrider 2 місяці тому +4

    The new 900 has better tech like Cornering ABS,Traction Control & upgraded Suspension but it doesn't look as good as current model especially with those cut outs in the tank & clock might be offset.I was gana wait for new models but saw a sneak peak with cut outs on tanks & put me off it.
    New 1200 Speedtwin doesn't look as good as older model as well.

    • @ruahinesrider
      @ruahinesrider 2 місяці тому +3

      ​​@@LifetimeBikerThey made that clock the LCD TFT clock that came out on Trident which is very good but Triumph is putting it on everything now.Some bikes suit twin clocks.I would rush out & can the current model 900 or 1200 Speedtwin while you can before the new models are is all there is.

    • @LifetimeBiker
      @LifetimeBiker 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ruahinesrider Agreed 👍 , Hope you lot are making a hell of a racket over this BS new rego proposal , Some Poli` needs to be sacked over that.

    • @ruahinesrider
      @ruahinesrider 2 місяці тому +3

      @LifetimeBiker We are there's a big protest ride tomorrow in mist regions of NZ 🇳🇿 but not in Hawkes Bay or Palmy unfortunately or I would go coincides with Toy ride in Hawkes Bay & Risk Ride for Kids in Palmy.Closest is Taupo or Masterton.Tomorows protest ride is just a forerunner hopefully to a National ride to Wellington like they did in 2019 when they put it up from $125-$830 & then after protest reduced it to $525.
      They want to put it up to $870 over next 3yrs & bring in a 750cc class.Dealing with National Party so they probably won't change anything they just f#*k up the country everytime they're in.I only vote Labour to everytime to keep National out.Hopefully they're only a 1 term Government they've upset alot of people with their unconstitutional illegal fast track bill they brought in.

    • @LifetimeBiker
      @LifetimeBiker 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ruahinesrider I am getting so tired of typing comments only to have them disappear !! , I will try again , Whoever is behind it needs to be dealt with in a way that they will never try this kind of anti democratic victimisation of a minority road users group ever again.
      Motorcyclists are more environmentally friendly than most vehicles and most motorcycle accidents are caused by other motorists mistakes.
      Gov` , Transport agencies and Insurance companies need to stop cooking the books to reflect their preferred outcome.
      IF they made motorcycles illegal I would still ride , Screw `em.

    • @LifetimeBiker
      @LifetimeBiker 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ruahinesrider I am getting so tired of typing comments only to have them disappear !! , I will try again , Whoever is behind it needs to be dealt with in a way that they will never try this kind of anti democratic victimisation of a minority road users group ever again.
      Motorcyclists are more environmentally friendly than most vehicles and most motorcycle accidents are caused by other motorists mistakes.
      Gov` , Transport agencies and Insurance companies need to stop cooking the books to reflect their preferred outcome.
      IF they made motorcycles illegal I would still ride , Screw `em.

  • @MRo55i74
    @MRo55i74 2 місяці тому

    Morning

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Brilliant 😂😂

  • @Grumpy-Goblin
    @Grumpy-Goblin 2 місяці тому

    I don't often disagree with you TAYM but I can't agree that the Speed Twin is the bike the T120 should have been. The Speed twin has lost nearly all of the retro style and is far too aggressive. Not nocking the Speed Twin it's a great bike but it's not really a retro. It is a very modern bike with a nod to the retro.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Mike 😁 I think you misunderstand what I am saying 😁 I am not referring to its looks😁 I am talking about the smoothness and handling. That’s all 😁

    • @Grumpy-Goblin
      @Grumpy-Goblin Місяць тому

      @@TAYM Yeah I got that TAYM but, for me, the only thing wrong with the T120 was the fuelling. The rear shocks were perhaps a bit underwhelming but it fitted the retro vibe for me. I never wanted more power and I never pushed the handling beyond its limits.

  • @timparish172
    @timparish172 Місяць тому

    The loss of those two beautiful analogue clocks is a huge disappointment, they were / are so classy and helped set the T120 range apart from it’s competition. It’s a ‘modern classic’ ffs, where’s me clocks? 🙄

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Exactly 😁😂😂 thanks Tim 😁

  • @MsDenver2
    @MsDenver2 2 місяці тому

    I like the speed twin but on the new on they’ve replaced the lovely twin clocks with a horrible round Digital thing , not good👎

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому

      Exactly 😁 thanks MsD 😁

  • @drdoolittle5724
    @drdoolittle5724 2 місяці тому +1

    So, ' buy one while you can', sounds ominous TAYM?, or have you been talking to her who must be obeyed !!!

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  2 місяці тому

      😂😂😂 if had this would be a Rocket review 😂😂😂 thanks DrD 😁

  • @ruahinesrider
    @ruahinesrider 2 місяці тому +2

    4th😂

    • @ruahinesrider
      @ruahinesrider 2 місяці тому +2

      Finally knocked off the podium.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      So be back on it 😁

  • @pinkiewerewolf
    @pinkiewerewolf 2 місяці тому

    One round clock… RIP Speed Twin. 🪦
    Candy Apples or Caramel Apples in the parts of the States where I’ve lived.

    • @TAYM
      @TAYM  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, very sad 😕