Sylvester Stallone ruled 1985. Rocky IV was the second highest grossing film of the year...and Rambo: First Blood Part II was the third. He was only stopped by a little film called Back to the Future.
When I watched this movie for the first time, there were no subtitles for what he says in Russian later on. So I only learned last year for the first time, what he really said and thus my favorite quote from him in this movie is "He's not human. He's like a piece of iron"... 😅 Omg, the tears, I had after I read that for the first time, RIGHT after Rocky's trainer just said "He's just a human!"..... 😭😭😭
In one of the later movies, there were plans for Rocky to visit Drago who would be dying from aids and Rocky would use the same line (If he dies, he dies) regarding Drago's situation. Apparently the scene was scrapped as soon as Stallone read it because he taught "That's not Rocky at all".
I met Dolph a few years ago. Lovely guy, and waaaay smart. He told me his reduced dialogue was a request, as Apollo and Clubber were big mouths, and he wanted to be different. Then, he admitted that this led Hollywood to think he couldn´t speak.
Dolph is great. I remember in some interview he talked about how much work he put into his role in Universal Soldier (his best performance IMO) and he was pretty much "adviced" not to put so much effort in it because it's just an action movie. He should have been a massive action star.
The fight at the end was filmed in Vancouver British Columbia Canada,the film makers asked people to come and be in the stadium to cheer and we got free food and drinks.only ones payed would be the ones for close ups. But I got to say I was in a movie I was 16
Stallone actually had to go to the hospital during this movie. He asked Lundgren (who has advanced degrees in many STEM fields and is a literal genius) to actually hit him in the ribs (Lundgren is also a black belt in a couple forms of contact sports) and he hit him *so* hard that I believe it bruised Stallone's liver and ended up almost collapsing his lung. (It broke 2-3 ribs) The Doctor refused to believe that it was done by a punch because it looked like he'd been in a car wreck. I believe Stallone had to prove to the insurance company of the film (with the footage) that no, he didn't wreck his car, and that it was actually the punch that did the damage to get them to cover it.
@@timlevis3630 Yeah, the Doctor and the insurance company thought he got into a car wreck. He had to prove (so that they'd pay for the treatments) that it was Lundgren's punch that did the damage.
I believe that Lundgren's punch caused Stallone's heart to bounce against his sternum, causing swelling. It basically gave Stallone a heart attack and he had to spend two weeks in intensive care. Stallone said that they thought he was so close to death that they sent nuns into his room to give him his last rites.
Even though in movies he's often playing dumb muscle type of guys, Dolph Lundgren (Drago) is actually extremely smart and has a master's degree in chemical engineering. In real life, he's a legit badass with a black belt in karate, and twice won the European championships ('80-'81), as well as heavyweight champ in Australia ('82). When Dolph says, "I must break you". Oh hell yeah I BELIEVE IT.
Also, fun fact: his real Swedish name is Ulf Lundgren. He thought 'Ulf' would be too difficult for Hollywood to pronounce, so he changed it to 'Dolph' to make it clearer.
@@hylianchriss Actually, the fact is "Dolph" was born Hans Lundgren in 1957 in Stockholm,, Sweden the son of Sigrid Birgitta (née Tjerneld; 1932-1992), and Karl Hugo Johan Lundgren (1923-2000),
I couldn't wait for you guys to get to Rocky 4 ..Drago was the scariest fighter of all Rocky's opponents .the guy scared me as a kid .I loved the training sequences and the music
The tone of this movie was different because, remember, this was in the mid-80's and MTV videos were HUGE! You can definitely see the influence in the montage scenes. Great reaction! Was waiting for you to get to this one. It's my favorite in the series. Not a fan of Rocky 5. But Rocky Balboa and Creed 1 and 2 are great! Must sees!
With all the montages, this movie is practically a musical. Stallone was always disappointed with IV, hence V trying to capture the heart and soul of the earlier movies.
Lots of so-called "jump cuts" which emulated the quick edits in music videos at the time. I saw this in the theater and people loudly applauded at the end. I still love it!
The year this came out was pretty hot during the cold war. Looking back the movie presents the tension and patriotism so well of that mid 1980s feeling. Another really good one, in that regard, is Red Dawn.
"HE'S CUT! HE'S CUT!" "YOU SEE YOU SEE, HES NOT A MACHINE HES A MAN!" my favorite part and my favorite Rocky. I still listen to "No easy way out" while running.
Apollo never takes his fights as seriously as he should, he did it in Rocky 1 and he did it, here again, gravely underestimating what Drago could do to him. James Brown, singing his heart out at the funeral and getting all choked up. That scene is money and a tear-jerker for sure. But of course, we needed the tragic setup to force Rocky to have to come out of retirement and fight.
For sure. I dont think Rocky was retired yet though, he was still the reigning champ and title holder. He was a little older sure, but still the sitting champion in Rocky IV
You two had some funny quips in this one! "He runs like a loser" and "Ivan Froggo" 😂😆 And I always like seeing people's reaction to the robot, so random and 80's!
Just remember the context of when this movie came out: The Cold War. The US and USSR were repeatedly close to going to war (there were a surprising number of "near misses" that came close to WWIII, which have more recently come to light), and almost no one in the general public of either side knew it. All we knew was that "They hate us, and could launch their missiles at us at any moment". That was my teenage years. It's part of the reason that I'm a cynical fatalist now. Live for the moment, because it could all end in a bright flash 15 minutes from now. But for a moment, Rocky IV gave us a little bit of hope that, because the Soviet CITIZENS weren't that much different than us, and it's their leaders that are the potential war mongers, that peace might just remain for a while. Less than 6 years later, the Berlin Wall would be opened and the Soviet Union would collapse under its own weight. Tensions would go down, and the Cold War would end. Edit: OH! While I think of it.... you should check out the music video for Weird Al Yankovik's "Living With A Hernia", which is a parody of James Brown's "Living in America". It's not only hilarious, but Brown gave Al access to the same stage and props as are in this movie.
The film also shows the differences between American and Soviet culture in a very subtle way. The presentation of the fight Creed vs. Drago is fancy and glamorous, like a Las Vegas show, while the Drago vs. Balboa is the typical communist ritual, with symbols and images that evoke the cult of personality, with the Russian anthem in the background. Very few people appreciate this.
What I love in this movie and what I never notice when I think of it at a distance, is just how much a victim Drago is of the Soviet machine that made him. We know nothing at all about him, except when Rocky breaks the machine and we see the broken human bleed between the cracks. I mean there's a ton of Cold War anti-Soviet sentiment in the film, but it's not really about Drago as the generic Russian bad guy. The dude is probably a poor kid from a tiny village who happened to be huge and have a physical gift for dealing damage, just as Rocky was a poor kid with a gift for taking it. On the US-vs-Russia level, all the propaganda and America fanning happens at that broad surface level: America is the country that lifts up its local poor kid to be a hero, while Russia ruins its local poor kid, turns him into a doomed wrecking machine, and then throws him away like a broken toy when he's used up. Beneath the Cold War stuff, there's still a movie here about two simple human guys trying to overcome adversity, and that's where the heart comes from. I love too that neither of these guys are real smart in the head. Despite Rocky's great bum-logic one liners, he's not an articulate guy. And yet Rocky with no gift for gab is always talking, talking, talking. Drago has like 10 lines in the whole movie, which RADICALLY separates him from both champion showboat Apollo and champion trash-talker Clubber Lang. The extent to which Drago's voice is entirely stolen by his handlers where all the American boxers are given a voice is a really interesting puzzle piece in the humanizing of Drago that no one ever notices.
You're not the only one; IIRC, Drago's entire arc in _Creed II_ is realizing all of that, and eventually stopping himself from taking his son down that same road.
I dont think it was that anti soviet, as much anti war, sure it makes the russians the enemy but for example after rocky begins winning, it is the russians who become accepting of him and cheer for him showing them in a good honest light instead of making them stick to the dying titan, tho thats only what my opinion is, after all i didnt watch this in the cold war time
I love the parallel montage of Rocky Vs Drago It’s like It showed that Drago had to stop when he was running on the high incline treadmill but Rocky made it all the way to the top of the mountain 🏔 Foreshadowing to the ending when Drago runs out of steam while Rocky finished strong 😃
Best part of the director's cut is the much-better fight Apollo put up against Drago, along with diving deeper into the relationship between Apollo and Rocky.
Love one thing about this movie they respected...after seeing the 2014 documentary Red Army, you pretty much learn that all athletes in the USSR at the time in the Cold War where also considered member of the soviet army, not just propaganda tool. It's another kind of war and it's the first thing we know about Ivan Drago, he's an officer...There is also a cost to failure !
Stallone was influenced by MTV in the 80s, while editing the movie, this was said by him in interviews, and he wanted to make it more musical, and faster in terms of editing, and for That left out a lot of material that he filmed and made it very short in duration in relation to the others that were slower, because he wanted a quick and easy-to-watch movie, like an MTV-style music video, something that years later Stallone I would regret it, and that for me he fixes in the 2021 director's cut, putting back all that material he left out and removing scenes from the original that don't add anything, like comedy moments between Rocky and Apollo, comedy moments by Paulie, the robot, etc.
I was telling myself during the review that the music playing in the background during the introduction of Drago sounded almost identical to Unicron's theme. Now I know why.
The actor who plays Koloff, Michael Pataki, also played a memorable villain in the original Star Trek TV series episode The Trouble With Tribbles. He was the Klingon who was talking trash about Kirk and then the Enterprise and got punched by Scotty and started the whole brawl in the bar sequence. He was great at playing antagonistic jackasses in his career.
I think you'll like Rock IV: Rocky vs Drago - Director's Cut more because it remains faithful to the spirit of the first 3 films and whose story is more character-oriented. It has 40 new minutes that delve deeper into the drama of Apollo and Drago with a more mature tone. Adrian in this version has a more relevant role and the fights feel more real and balanced and less cartoonish.
I like the idea of the directors cut. Unfortunately, it felt like trying to make a different movie decades later with material that was never meant to be for that movie. It didn't quite work, for me. I agree it mostly works better than this one, but sometimes it does jarr.
Re: Apollo's fight It was supposed to be an exhibition fight, in football/soccer/other sports terms, a friendly match to showcase ability, which is why it was a big spectacle with dances; Drago fought it like he would a proper fight & well, you saw how that turned out.
Whenever I start following somebody who gets on the Rocky train I just can't give up till they see this one, this is my absolute favorite still is his day, and I have to have the full Rocky Marathon at least once a year.
Dolph Lundgren was such a physical specimen in those days. He stole the show in this movie with barely even speaking. It was a no brainer for Stallone in the casting process. As massive as Lundgren appeared in the film he stated in an interview he could only bench press 300 lbs during production. He was basically in race horse condition with the muscles to boot. The training montage is the most inspirational movie footage ever recorded and as great as the other Rocky training montages are, they don't add up to this one.
I can still remember watching this for the first time on TV almost 30 years ago; that moment when Drago bled, I had the same reaction Samantha had: "YES! LET'S GO!"
As a boxer and trainer of 18 years, I can tell you what Apollo said, in the beginning, is so true. "Without the war the warrior mine as well be dead." Many fighters were BORN TO FIGHT and without it have trouble functioning in normal life. You gotta think, it's all you know and all you've ever done for 20+ years
Not to sound disrespectful, but I think it is why traditional martial arts are better, they way they frame life and apply to all parts of a balanced person. And training a few years of boxing will only help a TMA practitioner and is fine by most instructors, whereas vice versa- it would at best do nothing for a boxer, and at worst screw up his footwork and head movement
@@emilianosintarias7337 That's why they're two completely different things and lifestyles. The Martial Artist learns it for defense, the Boxer learns and hones his skill as a TRADE and CAREER. Most boxers start with martial arts when they're young and graduate into boxing. Don't mistake boxing for being void of it's own philosophy that's been passed down for centuries and across the globe. Boxers will learn and apply more life lessons in their day to day journey than most people will ever learn in a lifetime.
Yes, Dolph Lundgren, who is originally from Sweden, earned a master's degree in chemical engineering and earned a Fulbright scholarship to MIT. He quit MIT to pursue acting. He's also a black belt in Judo and Kyokushin Karate and captained the Swedish Kyokushin Karate team, winning the European Championships in 1980 and 1981 and a heavyweight tournament in Sydney, Australia in 1982. He dabbled in modeling but was considered too tall and muscular for modeling, and studied drama at the Warren Robertson Theatre Workshop in New York.
Having seen this when I was young and it was new, I never knew the robot would be seen so negatively. It fits right in the time. Robots were very popular in the mid-'80s, from Omnibot to Johnny Five to T-Bob and even Transformers. In the new version, the robot was completely cut out as well as Brigitte Nielsen's lines.
"If he dies, he dies." For what it's worth, no one of the U.S. believed a Russian contender would have that point of view. The "There's NO Easy Way Out", and "Hearts Of Fire." segments was a part of the 80s, when MTV and music videos were all the rage. They were in many TV shows, like Miami Vice, that did their part, too.
I've discovered you by accident and I can see you've covered a great deal of movies already. I love your reactions and I enjoy a lot to listen to your very elaborate and constructive opinion right after, this is not something done just for the sake of having it done. There is true love and passion for movies here, and you know and perceive a lot considering that these are all first time reactions. It's like you know about movies even if you haven't seen many movies. Instant subscriber.
"Froggo?" 🤣🤣🤣 Adorable as always Sam Rocky 4 is probably my fave of the Rockies. Incredible training montage, another great song from Survivor, a beast of a fight, and the death of Apollo really ups the stakes.
This was my 1st Rocky movie, Burning Heart was such an awesome song. The tensions of the Cold War was so strong back then, when the audience at the fight start cheering for Rocky, what an experience! Thanks for sharing this especially in this day and age.
You guys are awesome and I really really wanna thank you for all the wonderful vibes that you share with us all here, through your channel. ❤️💖💞 Once again, your reaction and the review following it, were filled with a lot of heart and philosophy. 💫✨✨ You guys always have this sensibility and an admirable capacity to feel all the various emotions while peeling all the multiple layers... 😍 This fourth movie in the franchise, like you said, has a very different feel to it. I think it pays off in a highly rewarding way, the more you advance deeper in the story, with all these amazing montages and several intense scenes, up until the huge climax of the final fight, which is like a mini-movie on its own... You can see the shift taking place, from a propaganda boxing fight that is perfectly orchestrated in the middle of a stadium that is more like a cosy salon, but round after round it becomes a raw street fight, which is excellent to see... Drago having to get out of his comfort zone and trying to be something else than just a political tool, but failing in front of a human being who's filled with love, heart and passion, and all the history behind it... Making Rocky who he is, which is basically an unbreakable piece of steel that can take a beating forever and exhaust the most accomplished opponent you could find ! All of this wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for Adrian, who completes him and fuels him with an extra soul. ⭐ Also, I loved the message that you add in the end, regarding the present situation in the world we live in. Yes, the movie and Rocky's speech in the end, is a nice lesson about the fact that we live in a civilized world in which there are multiple ways to fight for XYZ cause, but it doesn't have to be on a battlefield and you don't have to run wars against everyone and kill millions of people... There are other ways to exist as people and as nations, because above all we are a planet that is filled with human beings who work much better when they are together than against each other ! You can't love everyone but you can function in a way that allows everyone to live peacefully and be fulfilled. Synergistic type of way, for mutual benefits. This being said, once again I thank you wholeheartedly. I always am very happy when I see that you guys have uploaded a new video/reaction ! 😃❤️ Tons of fabulous movies (and series) out there !!... Looking forward to see you discover all these gems together, with all the passion that makes you the magnificent human beings that you are. 👍💯❤️❤️⭐✨✨
My brother and I still quote this movie to each other to this day. "I must break you." "If he dies, he dies." And then we pretend to punch each other even though we are both in our 40s. Good times.
Over 8,000 people auditioned for the part of Ivan Drago. Dolph Lundgren was first turned down by the casting directors for being too tall but later on, he got the chance to send photos and meet Sylvester Stallone who told him he had a good chance to get the part, but advised him to gain twenty pounds of muscle. In total, it took Lundgren several months to win the part.
11:19 Unfortunately Apollo's death was revealed in the trailer back in 1985. In fact, the ad was entirely built around that moment. Probably one of the biggest spoilers of all-time in a marketing campaign for a major film.
Rocky 5 was... different but it was pretty interesting. Shame that the final fight resulted into a street fight rather than "Young Lion v Old Lion" in the ring.
@@danskyl7279 Honestly, I just really hated Tommy Gun (or whatever his name was). Like, sure... Clubber and Drago were both 'bad guys' but Tommy was just sooooo annoying to watch. I dunno, 5 is such a 'SKIP!' movie for me in the franchise. It deals with some really interesting stuff like the PTSD and all, but damn it's obnoxious at times.
In contact sports, all it takes is one punch or fall and you can be toast. It can be anything from an undiagnosed weakness to a whack on a "sweet spot".
The Robot looks weird and ridiculous for sure, but the reason it's in Rocky IV is that it was invented to help children with autism. Stallone actually bought it to help his autistic son, Seargeoh. Eventually, Stallone would put it in the movie to bring awareness to the robot on the press tour for the movie.
“I came here tonight, I didn’t know what to expect. I seen a lot of people hate me and I didn’t know what to feel about that, so I guess they didn’t like much nothin’ either. During this fight, I’ve seen a lot of changing: the way you felt about me, and in the way I felt about you. In here, there were two guys killing each other, but I guess that’s better than twenty million. I guess what I’m trying to say is that if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change!”
@@michaelgoodyear9369 Nice to see someone appreciate Rocky V, sometimes I feel I'm the only one. Rocky Balboa is one of my favorites as well. But yeah, I and II are masterpieces, and in some ways, almost shot like independent films, rather than big budget box office hits. It makes sense too, considering the first had a very low budget, and the second had a much better budget, but still kept so much of the magic it found in the first one. Creed I and II were also really enjoyable and well made films. What can I say, I've been a fan of Sly and this series for almost 30 years now :)
The director's cut 2021 for me improves this movie a lot, Stallone was influenced by MTV in the 80s, while editing the movie, this was said by him in interviews, and he wanted to make it more musical, and faster in terms of editing, and for That left out a lot of material that he filmed and made it very short in duration in relation to the others that were slower, because he wanted a quick and easy-to-watch movie, like an MTV-style music video, something that years later Stallone I would regret it, and that for me he fixes in the 2021 director's cut, putting back all that material he left out and removing scenes from the original that don't add anything, like comedy moments between Rocky and Apollo, comedy moments by Paulie, the robot, etc.
Good to see I'm not alone in having this as my favorite as a kid (I saw this one when it came out and it was MY Rocky). Nowadays I think 1 and 2 are far superior.
17:42 - they filmed all that in the teton valley, Wyoming. you can actually see the grand teton in the background on several scenes. about 6300 feet in the valley there
I remember seeing this in the 80s in the movie theater. It was one of those cinema moments (party due to the cold war at the time) that had audiences cheering and emotional. I watched you guys' reactions throughout this video and those reactions were the same for so many movie goers at the time. Also, what happened to Drago? Well.. you may have to go check out the recent film Creed:2.. where Ivan Drago's son challenges Apollo Creed's Son. Great video guys! I enjoyed it!
I love your commentary. Calling Drago a cheat for punching after the bell and throwing his opponent... 5 minutes later Cheering Rocky on as he punches after the bell and throws his opponent. LOL!
Dolph Lundgren (Drago) has a surprising filmography if you want to see more, as a Hero he was in Showdown in Little Tokyo with the all to soon late Brandon (son of Bruce) Lee, also he was a pretty decent live action He-Man in 1987 Masters of the Universe. As another turn as a villain he was in the underrated 1992 Universal Soldier with Jean-Claude Van Damme and how can we forget that he was the original Marvel comics Punisher. (Though that was kinda cheesy, but kinda fun too.) Oh, and he is in those Expendables films as well.
This wasn't a boxing match... This was World War III in the ring. And in 1985 at the height of the Cold War- it was promoted as such. The tag line in the teaser trailer was "ROCKY IV: GET READY FOR THE *NEXT WORLD WAR!* "
Rocky slowly transitioned from a guy who went 15 rounds with a world champion to a marvel superhero able to withstand brain trauma that would kill any regular man.
Definitely. Rocky 1 is brilliant heartwarming story about a man taking his shot at life and going the distance and Rocky 4 is a superhero boxing cartoon with a shallow political message injected in.
@@ckobo84 That's crazy that he stayed competitive in Rocky I by being an inside fighter to nullify Creed's mobility and used his dominant left hand to cut off his escape, both important plot points, but because you said a thing the movie literally changed.
@jay pee worse than shallow, it was totally racist and imperialistic. The USSR was not a threat at the time and was relatively peaceful, the citizens also were very much thinkers who quietly joked about and mocked their govt and media. They weren't robots. The US on the other hand was committing mass murder in several countries, particularly latin america, and would go on to interfere in Russia to the tune of millions of deaths in the 90s. Not that any of that is the fault of Rocky or the common American man, but just goes to show that getting on the high horse preaching about how evil the soviets and making things political was very hypocritical
This is my favorite of the franchise! Dolph and Sylvester were a perfect fighting duo. Dolph is the original Punisher for Marvel (1989). He's the only He-Man aka Adam in Masters of the Universe (1987). I highly recommend that your patrons have you both watch these films.
Stallone said Dolph was the hardest hitter of the actors in the Rocky films... Obviously, Tommy "The Duke" Morrison was light years more powerful than them all since he was a real heavy weight title holder and had a left hook that could KO anybody on the planet. Dolph can do it all - looks, brains, strength - a special talent. This is my favorite film of all time with Predator and Die Hard. I love this channel - you two are so fun to rewatch my favorites with.
Great reactions you two....Another good movie with Dolph Lundgren (where he plays the good guy this time around as well as a Marvel comic character) is 'The Punisher' (1989). It is action packed and very underrated. Not many channels on UA-cam react to this film probably because they're unaware of it or don't really remember this first incarnation of the Marvel character outside of the MCU (...so this would be a treat for many members in my opinion...I will also point out that there are 3 cuts to the film, the theatrical/R rated version - that most worldwide audience seen...an unrated version - which the kills are a lot more bloodier, gorier and it is slightly longer than the theatrical by two minutes because of the unrestrained/unedited kills...and a workprint/rough cut - this version has an entirely different opening, some slight variations/alternate takes of other scenes and is longer than both the other versions by 15 minutes because of the different shots and the orginal opening. Also many of the shots/sequences are edited slightly differently than how they appear in the theatrical, as well as much of music soundtrack is made up of other music cues from other action movies, such as Rambo, Lethal Weapon, Commando, RoboCop, etc - due to this being a workprint not the finalized version of the film with a finished complete music soundtrack - but at least you get to see all the footage that they shot in an assembly fashion of what the movie might have looked liked). The Punisher (1989) is definitely worth checking out in my opinion (especially if you enjoy 80s action flicks)...
The theatre I saw this in was packed durning the holiday season. Everyone was cheering like we were watching a real boxing match. The crowd went wild when Rocky won. What a great time!
Stallone REALLY got hit HARD at least a few times during the filming of this movie. Stallone directed it and he wanted it to look as real as possible. Another reason this movie is so badass and the Rocky Franchise is unlike any other.
Saw this as a 7 year old with my parents when it came out in theaters and was immensely excited, moved and entertained. Drago was almost the scariest thing I've ever seen. I still thought Clubber was the scariest of all. I do remember being inspired by all the sites, sounds, and music. And boxing the back seat (back then it was completely normal for back seat passengers to not wear seat belts) on the ride home and then my dad yelling at me.
Stallone was hitting his peak for sure dropping Rambo: First Blood II and Rocky 4 in 1985. But an undersized little know actor was approaching fast in his rearview mirror. Some Arnold Schwarzenegger guy. Dropping classics like Conan, Terminator, Predator, Commando, Total Recall, True Lies. Giving birth to the eternal debate of the '80s who was the bigger blockbuster action. Stallone or Schwarzenegger. ROcky or The Terminator. LET's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Dolph Lundgren (Drago) had no movie fight experience, so he was actually beating the crap out of Carl Weathers (Apollo) for real. He threatened to quit the movie over it, until Stallone talked him down.
I heard they cut the robot scenes out of the newer cuts. I'm a big fan of "comic relief" robots, and believe they should be inserted randomly and haphazardly into any film.
Sly cut those scenes out because he never did like them. Also, apparently he didn't want to have to repay the guy who invented the robot in the first place when the new cut was screened in theaters.
This movie takes me back to the growing up in the US during the Cold War. As Americans, we were so united, so patriotic. I miss how we use to be. The 80s- great time to grow up. So much fun!!
Sylvester Stallone ruled 1985. Rocky IV was the second highest grossing film of the year...and Rambo: First Blood Part II was the third. He was only stopped by a little film called Back to the Future.
I think "Cobra" was the beginning of the Stallone downslide
@@desmoove Cobra was awesome, though
Actually Rocky 4 was the 4th highest Grossing movie in 85
@@wampa25 I know man, I know..."Crime is the Disease and Cobra's the cure"
@@desmoove He still was in a lot of good movies after Cobra. I think Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot was the start of his downslide.
I am convinced that nobody told Carl Weathers about the robot and that was his genuine reaction.
That is unscripted
If that's so, it was a helluva ad libbed reaction that fit into the script perfectly, especially if it wasn't initially intended🙂💯
@@lexkanyima2195Stfu. Pretending you know that is beyond sad.
"If he dies, he dies." - Lundgren as Ivan Drago. One of the most iconic quotes.
When I watched this movie for the first time, there were no subtitles for what he says in Russian later on. So I only learned last year for the first time, what he really said and thus my favorite quote from him in this movie is "He's not human. He's like a piece of iron"... 😅
Omg, the tears, I had after I read that for the first time, RIGHT after Rocky's trainer just said "He's just a human!"..... 😭😭😭
Also one of the corniest! So ridiculous.
"You will lose."
In one of the later movies, there were plans for Rocky to visit Drago who would be dying from aids and Rocky would use the same line (If he dies, he dies) regarding Drago's situation. Apparently the scene was scrapped as soon as Stallone read it because he taught "That's not Rocky at all".
Mine was always, "I must break you."
I met Dolph a few years ago. Lovely guy, and waaaay smart. He told me his reduced dialogue was a request, as Apollo and Clubber were big mouths, and he wanted to be different. Then, he admitted that this led Hollywood to think he couldn´t speak.
Dolph is great. I remember in some interview he talked about how much work he put into his role in Universal Soldier (his best performance IMO) and he was pretty much "adviced" not to put so much effort in it because it's just an action movie. He should have been a massive action star.
@@SarkkiKarkki Agreed.
This is all really cool to know honestly, thank you! Really like this movie and never really learned to much about the actors
@@victorvarges_ No problem!
Funniest part is he speaks 3 languages fully fluent and can speak a few more as well if I remember correctly
The fight at the end was filmed in Vancouver British Columbia Canada,the film makers asked people to come and be in the stadium to cheer and we got free food and drinks.only ones payed would be the ones for close ups. But I got to say I was in a movie I was 16
How cool. That must have been fun.
That is beyond cool!
an amazing memory to have. lucky you 🍀
That would have been awesome. Do you ever try to get a glimpse of yoursrlf in the crowd?
Everyone in this film died a painful AIDS related death.
The "Hearts on Fire" training montage is largely considered the greatest training montage in film history. It is truly epic.
Facts!
Burnin' with determination
to even up the score!
Band that did the music for Eddie and the cruisers I think the did a song in stalones cobra also at the end credits
The two training montages are good for me, the first with the score music of Vince Di Cola and "Hearts On Fire".
@@jayconant3816 John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band. "Voice of America's Son"
Stallone actually had to go to the hospital during this movie. He asked Lundgren (who has advanced degrees in many STEM fields and is a literal genius) to actually hit him in the ribs (Lundgren is also a black belt in a couple forms of contact sports) and he hit him *so* hard that I believe it bruised Stallone's liver and ended up almost collapsing his lung. (It broke 2-3 ribs) The Doctor refused to believe that it was done by a punch because it looked like he'd been in a car wreck. I believe Stallone had to prove to the insurance company of the film (with the footage) that no, he didn't wreck his car, and that it was actually the punch that did the damage to get them to cover it.
Ah you beat me to it
@@S_047 I remember this story also. I did not remember the car wreck part though?
@@timlevis3630 Yeah, the Doctor and the insurance company thought he got into a car wreck. He had to prove (so that they'd pay for the treatments) that it was Lundgren's punch that did the damage.
@@azazello1784 lol wut
I believe that Lundgren's punch caused Stallone's heart to bounce against his sternum, causing swelling. It basically gave Stallone a heart attack and he had to spend two weeks in intensive care. Stallone said that they thought he was so close to death that they sent nuns into his room to give him his last rites.
Samantha at start of reaction - soft spoken "hello.''
Samantha at 2nd round of Drago fight- "KILL HIM ROCKY!"
"Rocco? Drogo. Froggo? Drogo."
I am dying of laughter already.
Haha, that got me too! 😄
it's amazing. they're so cute
Even though in movies he's often playing dumb muscle type of guys, Dolph Lundgren (Drago) is actually extremely smart and has a master's degree in chemical engineering. In real life, he's a legit badass with a black belt in karate, and twice won the European championships ('80-'81), as well as heavyweight champ in Australia ('82). When Dolph says, "I must break you". Oh hell yeah I BELIEVE IT.
Also, fun fact: his real Swedish name is Ulf Lundgren. He thought 'Ulf' would be too difficult for Hollywood to pronounce, so he changed it to 'Dolph' to make it clearer.
He'll always be that dude from "Universal Soldier" to me.
He did a B movie called I Come In Peace that is actually pretty good. You should check it out.
@@yaimavol I second that!
@@hylianchriss Actually, the fact is "Dolph" was born Hans Lundgren in 1957 in Stockholm,, Sweden the son of Sigrid Birgitta (née Tjerneld; 1932-1992), and Karl Hugo Johan Lundgren (1923-2000),
I couldn't wait for you guys to get to Rocky 4 ..Drago was the scariest fighter of all Rocky's opponents .the guy scared me as a kid .I loved the training sequences and the music
Now I can't wait till they get to the Creed films.
he's like the T-1000 of the Rocky series
It was after number 4 that Rocky became a superhero :P
@@Rhodair Or the T-1000 was the Ivan Drago of the Terminator movies since Drago came first by 6 years.
@@dustman820 lol good point - didn't mean to insinuate one drew any inspiration from the other - just that they've got the same chilling vibe =}
The tone of this movie was different because, remember, this was in the mid-80's and MTV videos were HUGE! You can definitely see the influence in the montage scenes. Great reaction! Was waiting for you to get to this one. It's my favorite in the series. Not a fan of Rocky 5. But Rocky Balboa and Creed 1 and 2 are great! Must sees!
With all the montages, this movie is practically a musical. Stallone was always disappointed with IV, hence V trying to capture the heart and soul of the earlier movies.
IMO the antagonists in VI is where it fails. The personal story outside of that was still good imo.
Lots of so-called "jump cuts" which emulated the quick edits in music videos at the time. I saw this in the theater and people loudly applauded at the end. I still love it!
if you have watched all the Rocky movies you dont need to see creed 1 or 2 because you have already seen them.
Also in my opinion. I can’t prove it. Some CIA money went into it for anti Soviet propaganda
The year this came out was pretty hot during the cold war. Looking back the movie presents the tension and patriotism so well of that mid 1980s feeling. Another really good one, in that regard, is Red Dawn.
WOLVERINES!!!
@@DeltaAssaultGaming sarcasm?
@@Jar0fMay0 AVENGE ME!!! ✊
This is my favorite Rocky movie. I love a villain that needs a beating. It's so satisfying.
And then we sympathies with the Drago in Creed 2, I feel bad for them. Thank god for those deleted scenes which shows umm... spoiler xD
I saw Apollo as the villain in this movie, though he is a hero in rocky 3
"HE'S CUT! HE'S CUT!"
"YOU SEE YOU SEE, HES NOT A MACHINE HES A MAN!" my favorite part and my favorite Rocky. I still listen to "No easy way out" while running.
I listen to it when in at the gym on replay🤷♂️
You guys have to check of Cop Land with Stallone. It also has a bunch of other famous actors. Great under-rated movie.
agreed. please do Cop Land.
Absolutely
Apollo never takes his fights as seriously as he should, he did it in Rocky 1 and he did it, here again, gravely underestimating what Drago could do to him. James Brown, singing his heart out at the funeral and getting all choked up. That scene is money and a tear-jerker for sure. But of course, we needed the tragic setup to force Rocky to have to come out of retirement and fight.
For sure. I dont think Rocky was retired yet though, he was still the reigning champ and title holder. He was a little older sure, but still the sitting champion in Rocky IV
*Rocky
Drago didn't know it was a damn show, he thought it was a damn fight.
@@joeconcepts5552 "Drop this bum, and let's go home"
James Brown didn't sing at the funeral. He sang at the fight.
You two had some funny quips in this one! "He runs like a loser" and "Ivan Froggo" 😂😆 And I always like seeing people's reaction to the robot, so random and 80's!
Just remember the context of when this movie came out: The Cold War. The US and USSR were repeatedly close to going to war (there were a surprising number of "near misses" that came close to WWIII, which have more recently come to light), and almost no one in the general public of either side knew it. All we knew was that "They hate us, and could launch their missiles at us at any moment". That was my teenage years. It's part of the reason that I'm a cynical fatalist now. Live for the moment, because it could all end in a bright flash 15 minutes from now.
But for a moment, Rocky IV gave us a little bit of hope that, because the Soviet CITIZENS weren't that much different than us, and it's their leaders that are the potential war mongers, that peace might just remain for a while. Less than 6 years later, the Berlin Wall would be opened and the Soviet Union would collapse under its own weight. Tensions would go down, and the Cold War would end.
Edit: OH! While I think of it.... you should check out the music video for Weird Al Yankovik's "Living With A Hernia", which is a parody of James Brown's "Living in America". It's not only hilarious, but Brown gave Al access to the same stage and props as are in this movie.
Yes context Of the time period matters for this movie for sure. I’m betting perhaps they weren’t even born yet.
@@td811 We could be wrong, but yeah, I'm thinking they were both born in the 1990s. Maybe one day we'll find out.
And now we're right back where we started, on the brink of nuclear annihilation. Yay...
We were on the verge of a nuke war every single day. HIGH STAKES that a new generation can never fully understand.
The film also shows the differences between American and Soviet culture in a very subtle way. The presentation of the fight Creed vs. Drago is fancy and glamorous, like a Las Vegas show, while the Drago vs. Balboa is the typical communist ritual, with symbols and images that evoke the cult of personality, with the Russian anthem in the background. Very few people appreciate this.
Fun fact: Stallone was briefly married to Brigitte Nielsen - the woman who played Drago’s wife.
Red Sonya!
They were married when they filmed this, as well as cobra
What I love in this movie and what I never notice when I think of it at a distance, is just how much a victim Drago is of the Soviet machine that made him. We know nothing at all about him, except when Rocky breaks the machine and we see the broken human bleed between the cracks.
I mean there's a ton of Cold War anti-Soviet sentiment in the film, but it's not really about Drago as the generic Russian bad guy. The dude is probably a poor kid from a tiny village who happened to be huge and have a physical gift for dealing damage, just as Rocky was a poor kid with a gift for taking it.
On the US-vs-Russia level, all the propaganda and America fanning happens at that broad surface level: America is the country that lifts up its local poor kid to be a hero, while Russia ruins its local poor kid, turns him into a doomed wrecking machine, and then throws him away like a broken toy when he's used up. Beneath the Cold War stuff, there's still a movie here about two simple human guys trying to overcome adversity, and that's where the heart comes from.
I love too that neither of these guys are real smart in the head. Despite Rocky's great bum-logic one liners, he's not an articulate guy. And yet Rocky with no gift for gab is always talking, talking, talking. Drago has like 10 lines in the whole movie, which RADICALLY separates him from both champion showboat Apollo and champion trash-talker Clubber Lang. The extent to which Drago's voice is entirely stolen by his handlers where all the American boxers are given a voice is a really interesting puzzle piece in the humanizing of Drago that no one ever notices.
You're not the only one; IIRC, Drago's entire arc in _Creed II_ is realizing all of that, and eventually stopping himself from taking his son down that same road.
I dont think it was that anti soviet, as much anti war, sure it makes the russians the enemy but for example after rocky begins winning, it is the russians who become accepting of him and cheer for him showing them in a good honest light instead of making them stick to the dying titan, tho thats only what my opinion is, after all i didnt watch this in the cold war time
I love the parallel montage of Rocky Vs Drago
It’s like It showed that Drago had to stop when he was running on the high incline treadmill but Rocky made it all the way to the top of the mountain 🏔
Foreshadowing to the ending when Drago runs out of steam while Rocky finished strong 😃
I loved the Director’s Cut! It gets to the point and removes the robot scenes too
Robot scenes are the best.
I found it just weird. A lot worse than the original.
Robot was awesome. Director's cut stinks!
I haven't seen that, but between the robot and the Soviet crowd cheering for Rocky my ability to eyeroll should have gotten it's own workout montage.
Best part of the director's cut is the much-better fight Apollo put up against Drago, along with diving deeper into the relationship between Apollo and Rocky.
Love one thing about this movie they respected...after seeing the 2014 documentary Red Army, you pretty much learn that all athletes in the USSR at the time in the Cold War where also considered member of the soviet army, not just propaganda tool. It's another kind of war and it's the first thing we know about Ivan Drago, he's an officer...There is also a cost to failure !
Heart’s on Fire is one of my favourite moments in all of the Rocky movies, such a banger of a song too
You guys are literally the only channel, where I regularly enjoy watching the whole long post viewing discussions!
Check out popcorn time. These are the only two i watch
It may have received negative Reviews, but became a $300 million dollar hit!
This is the best Rocky film to me. It's the main one I can watch over and over.
It's a terrible film.
$300 million dollar hit, and more importantly, ended the Cold War.
Stallone was influenced by MTV in the 80s, while editing the movie, this was said by him in interviews, and he wanted to make it more musical, and faster in terms of editing, and for That left out a lot of material that he filmed and made it very short in duration in relation to the others that were slower, because he wanted a quick and easy-to-watch movie, like an MTV-style music video, something that years later Stallone I would regret it, and that for me he fixes in the 2021 director's cut, putting back all that material he left out and removing scenes from the original that don't add anything, like comedy moments between Rocky and Apollo, comedy moments by Paulie, the robot, etc.
@@andarporbuenosaires The robot should have won "Best Actor" at the Academy Awards.
A critic said it and I have to agree, "watching Rocky do sit-ups upside down was worth the price of admission alone".
Rocky? Stallone doing them is unreal.
As much as I miss Bill Conti as composer I love Vince DiCola's synthesizer score. He also did the music for Transformers: The Movie the next year.
I was telling myself during the review that the music playing in the background during the introduction of Drago sounded almost identical to Unicron's theme. Now I know why.
The actor who plays Koloff, Michael Pataki, also played a memorable villain in the original Star Trek TV series episode The Trouble With Tribbles. He was the Klingon who was talking trash about Kirk and then the Enterprise and got punched by Scotty and started the whole brawl in the bar sequence. He was great at playing antagonistic jackasses in his career.
That's some cool trivia there. Loved 'The Trouble With Tribbles.'
He sounds Italian in this movie, not Russian
Pataki also worked with Burgess Meredith (Mickey) in some 70s tv show.
I think you'll like Rock IV: Rocky vs Drago - Director's Cut more
because it remains faithful to the spirit of the first 3 films and whose story is more character-oriented. It has 40 new minutes that delve deeper into the drama of Apollo and Drago with a more mature tone. Adrian in this version has a more relevant role and the fights feel more real and balanced and less cartoonish.
It's a much better version of the movie IMO. Wish it was available on Blu Ray and not just digital.
I have never heard of this version. I will definitely check it out. Thank YOu
The funeral scene is one of the best of the series.
Well said, I completely agree with you.
I like the idea of the directors cut. Unfortunately, it felt like trying to make a different movie decades later with material that was never meant to be for that movie. It didn't quite work, for me. I agree it mostly works better than this one, but sometimes it does jarr.
If you have a problem with Apollo dying in the ring, just google how many people did in real life!! Yeah, I was pretty shocked, too....
I just googled it and since 1890 there are more then 1876 boxers that died in the ring. That’s just shocking.
3 and 4 used to be my favourites as a kid (cool opponents/antagonists). As an adult I like 1,2 and Balboa the most!
Balboa is my favorite!
That's depressing.
I am with you 100%
This one is fun, but does not have near the story and script of the top three that you mentioned.
Balboa is a little too depressing for me especially since Adrian's no longer with us
Just give me the first. It's the best. But the others except Balboa are also cool. Maybe i missed something in Balboa.
This movie is two fights, four montages, and just a good bit of the 1980's in general.
Re: Apollo's fight
It was supposed to be an exhibition fight, in football/soccer/other sports terms, a friendly match to showcase ability, which is why it was a big spectacle with dances; Drago fought it like he would a proper fight & well, you saw how that turned out.
Whenever I start following somebody who gets on the Rocky train I just can't give up till they see this one, this is my absolute favorite still is his day, and I have to have the full Rocky Marathon at least once a year.
Dolph Lundgren was such a physical specimen in those days. He stole the show in this movie with barely even speaking. It was a no brainer for Stallone in the casting process. As massive as Lundgren appeared in the film he stated in an interview he could only bench press 300 lbs during production. He was basically in race horse condition with the muscles to boot. The training montage is the most inspirational movie footage ever recorded and as great as the other Rocky training montages are, they don't add up to this one.
I can still remember watching this for the first time on TV almost 30 years ago; that moment when Drago bled, I had the same reaction Samantha had: "YES! LET'S GO!"
As a boxer and trainer of 18 years, I can tell you what Apollo said, in the beginning, is so true. "Without the war the warrior mine as well be dead." Many fighters were BORN TO FIGHT and without it have trouble functioning in normal life. You gotta think, it's all you know and all you've ever done for 20+ years
Not to sound disrespectful, but I think it is why traditional martial arts are better, they way they frame life and apply to all parts of a balanced person. And training a few years of boxing will only help a TMA practitioner and is fine by most instructors, whereas vice versa- it would at best do nothing for a boxer, and at worst screw up his footwork and head movement
@@emilianosintarias7337 That's why they're two completely different things and lifestyles. The Martial Artist learns it for defense, the Boxer learns and hones his skill as a TRADE and CAREER. Most boxers start with martial arts when they're young and graduate into boxing. Don't mistake boxing for being void of it's own philosophy that's been passed down for centuries and across the globe. Boxers will learn and apply more life lessons in their day to day journey than most people will ever learn in a lifetime.
Yes, Dolph Lundgren, who is originally from Sweden, earned a master's degree in chemical engineering and earned a Fulbright scholarship to MIT. He quit MIT to pursue acting. He's also a black belt in Judo and Kyokushin Karate and captained the Swedish Kyokushin Karate team, winning the European Championships in 1980 and 1981 and a heavyweight tournament in Sydney, Australia in 1982. He dabbled in modeling but was considered too tall and muscular for modeling, and studied drama at the Warren Robertson Theatre Workshop in New York.
So they had a Swede play as a Russian? Had no idea that was possible until I saw your comment.
Having seen this when I was young and it was new, I never knew the robot would be seen so negatively. It fits right in the time. Robots were very popular in the mid-'80s, from Omnibot to Johnny Five to T-Bob and even Transformers.
In the new version, the robot was completely cut out as well as Brigitte Nielsen's lines.
Fun Fact: Dolf Lungren is Swedish in Real Life.
RIP Apollo Creed.
"If he dies, he dies."
For what it's worth, no one of the U.S. believed a Russian contender would have that point of view.
The "There's NO Easy Way Out", and "Hearts Of Fire." segments was a part of the 80s, when MTV and music videos were all the rage. They were in many TV shows, like Miami Vice, that did their part, too.
I've discovered you by accident and I can see you've covered a great deal of movies already. I love your reactions and I enjoy a lot to listen to your very elaborate and constructive opinion right after, this is not something done just for the sake of having it done. There is true love and passion for movies here, and you know and perceive a lot considering that these are all first time reactions. It's like you know about movies even if you haven't seen many movies. Instant subscriber.
"Froggo?" 🤣🤣🤣
Adorable as always Sam
Rocky 4 is probably my fave of the Rockies. Incredible training montage, another great song from Survivor, a beast of a fight, and the death of Apollo really ups the stakes.
Yeah Rocky should have mocked Drago by calling him "Froggo".
This was my 1st Rocky movie, Burning Heart was such an awesome song. The tensions of the Cold War was so strong back then, when the audience at the fight start cheering for Rocky, what an experience! Thanks for sharing this especially in this day and age.
He started by climbing stairs in a museum, ended up climbing mountains. Rocky Evolution
8:59 It's like Apollo was making a wrestler's entrance rather than a boxer's.
You guys are awesome and I really really wanna thank you for all the wonderful vibes that you share with us all here, through your channel. ❤️💖💞
Once again, your reaction and the review following it, were filled with a lot of heart and philosophy. 💫✨✨ You guys always have this sensibility and an admirable capacity to feel all the various emotions while peeling all the multiple layers... 😍
This fourth movie in the franchise, like you said, has a very different feel to it. I think it pays off in a highly rewarding way, the more you advance deeper in the story, with all these amazing montages and several intense scenes, up until the huge climax of the final fight, which is like a mini-movie on its own... You can see the shift taking place, from a propaganda boxing fight that is perfectly orchestrated in the middle of a stadium that is more like a cosy salon, but round after round it becomes a raw street fight, which is excellent to see... Drago having to get out of his comfort zone and trying to be something else than just a political tool, but failing in front of a human being who's filled with love, heart and passion, and all the history behind it... Making Rocky who he is, which is basically an unbreakable piece of steel that can take a beating forever and exhaust the most accomplished opponent you could find ! All of this wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for Adrian, who completes him and fuels him with an extra soul. ⭐
Also, I loved the message that you add in the end, regarding the present situation in the world we live in. Yes, the movie and Rocky's speech in the end, is a nice lesson about the fact that we live in a civilized world in which there are multiple ways to fight for XYZ cause, but it doesn't have to be on a battlefield and you don't have to run wars against everyone and kill millions of people... There are other ways to exist as people and as nations, because above all we are a planet that is filled with human beings who work much better when they are together than against each other ! You can't love everyone but you can function in a way that allows everyone to live peacefully and be fulfilled. Synergistic type of way, for mutual benefits.
This being said, once again I thank you wholeheartedly. I always am very happy when I see that you guys have uploaded a new video/reaction ! 😃❤️ Tons of fabulous movies (and series) out there !!... Looking forward to see you discover all these gems together, with all the passion that makes you the magnificent human beings that you are. 👍💯❤️❤️⭐✨✨
My brother and I still quote this movie to each other to this day. "I must break you." "If he dies, he dies." And then we pretend to punch each other even though we are both in our 40s. Good times.
I’m proud of you guys for watching this whole series. Enjoy it.
Over 8,000 people auditioned for the part of Ivan Drago. Dolph Lundgren was first turned down by the casting directors for being too tall but later on, he got the chance to send photos and meet Sylvester Stallone who told him he had a good chance to get the part, but advised him to gain twenty pounds of muscle. In total, it took Lundgren several months to win the part.
Love this movie. Everytime I watch the training montage it makes me want to chop wood, outrun cars and climb up the highest mountain…it’s THAT great!
11:19 Unfortunately Apollo's death was revealed in the trailer back in 1985. In fact, the ad was entirely built around that moment. Probably one of the biggest spoilers of all-time in a marketing campaign for a major film.
Apparently Dolph Lundgren said that he didn't wanna do the part of killing Apollo Creed, because he was a fan of the character. xD
Oh man, that sucks, I'm glad I got to be surprised by it.
Dont let Rocky 5 get you down. It's the weakest of the series, & "Rocky Balboa"(Rocky 6) is a fantastic conclusion to the series
Rocky 5 was... different but it was pretty interesting. Shame that the final fight resulted into a street fight rather than "Young Lion v Old Lion" in the ring.
@@danskyl7279 Honestly, I just really hated Tommy Gun (or whatever his name was). Like, sure... Clubber and Drago were both 'bad guys' but Tommy was just sooooo annoying to watch. I dunno, 5 is such a 'SKIP!' movie for me in the franchise. It deals with some really interesting stuff like the PTSD and all, but damn it's obnoxious at times.
In contact sports, all it takes is one punch or fall and you can be toast. It can be anything from an undiagnosed weakness to a whack on a "sweet spot".
The Robot looks weird and ridiculous for sure, but the reason it's in Rocky IV is that it was invented to help children with autism. Stallone actually bought it to help his autistic son, Seargeoh. Eventually, Stallone would put it in the movie to bring awareness to the robot on the press tour for the movie.
Yes! So glad this comment was made. 👍
“I came here tonight, I didn’t know what to expect. I seen a lot of people hate me and I didn’t know what to feel about that, so I guess they didn’t like much nothin’ either. During this fight, I’ve seen a lot of changing: the way you felt about me, and in the way I felt about you. In here, there were two guys killing each other, but I guess that’s better than twenty million. I guess what I’m trying to say is that if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change!”
Most people's favorite Rocky movie, though arguably the worst in terms of how far the franchise has been Hollywood-ized compared to the original.
Yea. Rocky 4 was my fav as a kid. Now I like Rocky n Rocky 2 the best. They are all good tho. Even Rocky 5🙂🙂
@@michaelgoodyear9369 Nice to see someone appreciate Rocky V, sometimes I feel I'm the only one. Rocky Balboa is one of my favorites as well. But yeah, I and II are masterpieces, and in some ways, almost shot like independent films, rather than big budget box office hits. It makes sense too, considering the first had a very low budget, and the second had a much better budget, but still kept so much of the magic it found in the first one. Creed I and II were also really enjoyable and well made films. What can I say, I've been a fan of Sly and this series for almost 30 years now :)
The director's cut 2021 for me improves this movie a lot, Stallone was influenced by MTV in the 80s, while editing the movie, this was said by him in interviews, and he wanted to make it more musical, and faster in terms of editing, and for That left out a lot of material that he filmed and made it very short in duration in relation to the others that were slower, because he wanted a quick and easy-to-watch movie, like an MTV-style music video, something that years later Stallone I would regret it, and that for me he fixes in the 2021 director's cut, putting back all that material he left out and removing scenes from the original that don't add anything, like comedy moments between Rocky and Apollo, comedy moments by Paulie, the robot, etc.
Good to see I'm not alone in having this as my favorite as a kid (I saw this one when it came out and it was MY Rocky). Nowadays I think 1 and 2 are far superior.
3 was always my favourite.
17:42 - they filmed all that in the teton valley, Wyoming. you can actually see the grand teton in the background on several scenes. about 6300 feet in the valley there
I remember seeing this in the 80s in the movie theater. It was one of those cinema moments (party due to the cold war at the time) that had audiences cheering and emotional. I watched you guys' reactions throughout this video and those reactions were the same for so many movie goers at the time. Also, what happened to Drago? Well.. you may have to go check out the recent film Creed:2.. where Ivan Drago's son challenges Apollo Creed's Son. Great video guys! I enjoyed it!
I love your commentary. Calling Drago a cheat for punching after the bell and throwing his opponent... 5 minutes later Cheering Rocky on as he punches after the bell and throws his opponent. LOL!
Dolph Lundgren (Drago) has a surprising filmography if you want to see more, as a Hero he was in Showdown in Little Tokyo with the all to soon late Brandon (son of Bruce) Lee, also he was a pretty decent live action He-Man in 1987 Masters of the Universe. As another turn as a villain he was in the underrated 1992 Universal Soldier with Jean-Claude Van Damme and how can we forget that he was the original Marvel comics Punisher. (Though that was kinda cheesy, but kinda fun too.)
Oh, and he is in those Expendables films as well.
I come in peace
@@thomasfinnell9681 oh yeah, I forgot about that one, I remember liking it for what it was, it had potential.
He was honestly good in Universal Soldier.
Favorite rocky movie as a kid. Now that I’m older it’s definitely the first one but man this one was so epic
Best montages ever.
Hearts on Fire!!
I prefer the original over the director's cut!
This wasn't a boxing match... This was World War III in the ring.
And in 1985 at the height of the Cold War- it was promoted as such. The tag line in the teaser trailer was "ROCKY IV: GET READY FOR THE *NEXT WORLD WAR!* "
This is when the franchise reached peak 80's cheese 😂 and it's hilariously wonderful.
And this is how Rocky stopped the cold war.
Rocky slowly transitioned from a guy who went 15 rounds with a world champion to a marvel superhero able to withstand brain trauma that would kill any regular man.
Definitely. Rocky 1 is brilliant heartwarming story about a man taking his shot at life and going the distance and Rocky 4 is a superhero boxing cartoon with a shallow political message injected in.
What most people call Hell Rocky calls Home. He wins by attrition.
It is because Rocky Balboa was like "a piece of iron", as Drago said. Plus Rocky's heart was on fire, just like the training montage said.
@@ckobo84 That's crazy that he stayed competitive in Rocky I by being an inside fighter to nullify Creed's mobility and used his dominant left hand to cut off his escape, both important plot points, but because you said a thing the movie literally changed.
@jay pee worse than shallow, it was totally racist and imperialistic. The USSR was not a threat at the time and was relatively peaceful, the citizens also were very much thinkers who quietly joked about and mocked their govt and media. They weren't robots. The US on the other hand was committing mass murder in several countries, particularly latin america, and would go on to interfere in Russia to the tune of millions of deaths in the 90s. Not that any of that is the fault of Rocky or the common American man, but just goes to show that getting on the high horse preaching about how evil the soviets and making things political was very hypocritical
Rocky really was the king of the 80s.
I love Samantha's enthusiasm!!! So happy you two have enjoyed the series!! Looking forward to the next one!
Can't watch the first match without thinking "Living With a Hernia". Thanks, Weird Al...
The "YES, LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!" from Samantha was AMAZING !!!!!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅
This is my favorite of the franchise! Dolph and Sylvester were a perfect fighting duo. Dolph is the original Punisher for Marvel (1989). He's the only He-Man aka Adam in Masters of the Universe (1987). I highly recommend that your patrons have you both watch these films.
Don't skip Rocky V, a lot of people on the internet say it's bad but no it's not, it's a great movie
I'm sorry, but it's bad. I'm the perfect age for it too. I know they're not going to skip it, and it's needed for the entire story. It is bad though.
@@jkhoover actually it's not really needed to be honest. Skip it. Go straight to Rocky Balboa.
It's pretty bad. And completely unnecessary. But god i love Rocky IV and its montages
@@commsense1979 it's worth watching at least once for them though. Might aswel do them all.
Stallone said Dolph was the hardest hitter of the actors in the Rocky films... Obviously, Tommy "The Duke" Morrison was light years more powerful than them all since he was a real heavy weight title holder and had a left hook that could KO anybody on the planet.
Dolph can do it all - looks, brains, strength - a special talent. This is my favorite film of all time with Predator and Die Hard. I love this channel - you two are so fun to rewatch my favorites with.
Is there a difference ?
Great reactions you two....Another good movie with Dolph Lundgren (where he plays the good guy this time around as well as a Marvel comic character) is 'The Punisher' (1989). It is action packed and very underrated. Not many channels on UA-cam react to this film probably because they're unaware of it or don't really remember this first incarnation of the Marvel character outside of the MCU (...so this would be a treat for many members in my opinion...I will also point out that there are 3 cuts to the film, the theatrical/R rated version - that most worldwide audience seen...an unrated version - which the kills are a lot more bloodier, gorier and it is slightly longer than the theatrical by two minutes because of the unrestrained/unedited kills...and a workprint/rough cut - this version has an entirely different opening, some slight variations/alternate takes of other scenes and is longer than both the other versions by 15 minutes because of the different shots and the orginal opening. Also many of the shots/sequences are edited slightly differently than how they appear in the theatrical, as well as much of music soundtrack is made up of other music cues from other action movies, such as Rambo, Lethal Weapon, Commando, RoboCop, etc - due to this being a workprint not the finalized version of the film with a finished complete music soundtrack - but at least you get to see all the footage that they shot in an assembly fashion of what the movie might have looked liked). The Punisher (1989) is definitely worth checking out in my opinion (especially if you enjoy 80s action flicks)...
The theatre I saw this in was packed durning the holiday season. Everyone was cheering like we were watching a real boxing match. The crowd went wild when Rocky won. What a great time!
People we're very upset when they saw their fan favorite character die too soon
Stallone REALLY got hit HARD at least a few times during the filming of this movie. Stallone directed it and he wanted it to look as real as possible. Another reason this movie is so badass and the Rocky Franchise is unlike any other.
It's easy to forget how ridiculous the robot just being around is when you've seen this a bunch of times in your life.
It's soooo 80's
Gotta get that merchandising in there somehow. jk
So glad the robot stuff was cut for the Director's Cut.
The whole movie is ridiculous.
28:23 Sam's "yessss" just made my day, i don't know why, it just did.
I remember watching this in the theater, was 5 at the time. One of those that really sticks with you. Can’t wait for Creed 1 and 2.
Watching this just makes me love the Creed movies even more
Saw this as a 7 year old with my parents when it came out in theaters and was immensely excited, moved and entertained. Drago was almost the scariest thing I've ever seen. I still thought Clubber was the scariest of all. I do remember being inspired by all the sites, sounds, and music. And boxing the back seat (back then it was completely normal for back seat passengers to not wear seat belts) on the ride home and then my dad yelling at me.
Stallone was hitting his peak for sure dropping Rambo: First Blood II and Rocky 4 in 1985. But an undersized little know actor was approaching fast in his rearview mirror. Some Arnold Schwarzenegger guy. Dropping classics like Conan, Terminator, Predator, Commando, Total Recall, True Lies. Giving birth to the eternal debate of the '80s who was the bigger blockbuster action. Stallone or Schwarzenegger. ROcky or The Terminator. LET's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Stallone is the og. Rocky will outlast any of arnies movies
A Real Man shows his woman all these GREAT movies in history. 👍🏽 ❤️
Gonna need a montage!! This movie is the best montage film ever
It's about 75% montage. Gotta love it
@@Jar0fMay0 more like 50%, but we’re splitting hairs here
Drago's manager was Stallone's real-life wife in the same year the movie was made.
After seeing this, you have to cover “Creed” and “Creed II”.
Rocky 4 has always been my favorite in the franchise. I'm glad you guys are enjoying these movies. Your reactions are always a blast.😀
Please watch THE NEVERENDING STORY!
I would wish for that. Even part 2 is kind of underrated imo....
I don’t know why but I love Pauly in this movie. It’s like his character knows everything is ridiculous and is just rolling with it lol
Finally, my favorite rocky movie of the franchise 💪 it was released my birth year and is just complete awesomeness ❤💯💯💯
1985? Me, too. Are you also a Libra? That would be insane...
Yeah, me too!
@@chanceneck8072 nah I'm a Scorpio, but still 1985 🙌🔥🔥🔥🔥❤
@@JohnnyBarton85 Close enough! 👍
Dang, I haven't seen Gorbachev this upset since Chernobyl exploded.
"I was told that Rocky's punch is the equivalent of a chest X-ray"
24:41 - That's why I love this channel.
Dolph Lundgren (Drago) had no movie fight experience, so he was actually beating the crap out of Carl Weathers (Apollo) for real. He threatened to quit the movie over it, until Stallone talked him down.
I heard they cut the robot scenes out of the newer cuts. I'm a big fan of "comic relief" robots, and believe they should be inserted randomly and haphazardly into any film.
The Godfather -Robot Cut would be epic! 🤣🤣🤣
Sly cut those scenes out because he never did like them. Also, apparently he didn't want to have to repay the guy who invented the robot in the first place when the new cut was screened in theaters.
@@brandoncrow3741 AGREED.
@@alucard624 That's hilarious, and kind of a dick move.
I say all existing robots in films should be removed and spliced together to create a new Short Circuit movie
This movie takes me back to the growing up in the US during the Cold War. As Americans, we were so united, so patriotic. I miss how we use to be. The 80s- great time to grow up. So much fun!!
It's all about the montage!
Montages! Plural! 😉
You guys have to watch the directors cut of Rocky 4. It is very different from the original.