The interior is one of the best parts about it imo, it's a handsome dash layout. It's a bit harsh to review old cars and chastise it for being outdated.
Compared with BMW though, this interior looks far worse and reallllly falls apart. I wasn’t comparing it with new cars, compared with cars from the era, the layout and build quality is not as good as its competition.
@@KiwiCarLife hey mate, also live in New Zealand and never really bought a car just for "fun" before, just for reliability. Got a really good raise last year so have some extra money. If this V8 for 10k isn't worth it, what is?
@@rtt987 I have a 2019 CX-5 Takami. It's nice and smooth on the open road. Nice nappa leather interior for a comfy ride. Turbo for when I want to pass someone and feel a little speedy, but being an SUV it's very floaty due to the suspension. But that's my every day and long distance to Tauranga-Auckland-Hamilton in the weekends. Looking for something that feels a bit more attached to the road, little bit more exciting. Drove my flatmates 350z once and the way it stuck to the road like glue in the curves made me very jealous. Looking for something I can drive in the weekend, have fun, not be stupid but still enjoy a lot when going to see people.
From 1972-2015 Audi ruled the world, it was always Piech's first love within the VW Group because of his personal history with the brand and it's rise. I aren't so sure it's the brand it once was, but we should celebrate the good times.. who else was bonkers enough to cram a twin turbo V10 into a family car?
Older European performance cars offer massive bang for buck, but can be ticking time bombs, I bought an Audi S6 V10 for $10k, drove it for 2 years and sold it for $9.5k. I replaced a leaking radiator, but had zero other problems. I reckon that, if they are cheap enough, these high performance Euros Make a lot of sense.
How many kms did you cover in those two years though? You could potentially end up spending the purchase price for the timing chain job with an S4, and the likelihood of it requiring it considering the age of the car absolutely makes them a ticking time bomb. It only makes sense if you can do all your own work and at least not have to pay labour to keep maintaining it.
Yeah I agree, I probably wouldn't recommend something like this, but there's a lot of other options with less chance of catastrophic faults that make for sensational cars
Looks brilliant and classy. Too bad repairs and parts dont cost a tenth of it when it was new.....Buying one is easy, maintenance is a different story. BTW, your filming, editing, and overall quality has gone next level. Well done!! 👌
im very Euro when it comes to my car taste but randomly id love to see you Do a video on a XR6 Turbo Manual, I see some really nice ones here in Christchurch.
Not all of them have no heated seats. I’m buying one off my friend right now, it’s fully optioned. It has heated seats, auto headlights, home link, and I quite enjoy the interior. Although I will admit most of those crappy plastic buttons have been recently replaced.
Similar story with the M62B44. Great reliable engines as long as the timing chains are part of a robust preventative maintenance schedule. Ask me how I know. 20+ hour job on the driveway.
@KiwiCarLife That's true, but the guides do get brittle with age and will break when the car is started in the morning when the chain has a little slack.
Nice car.Never owned a V8,always liked the B6 S4 manual.If it has a good engine,consider UK market.Owned a lot of cars,lots of turbo Subaru’s.Now driving a turbo 5 cylinder 4WD.
@@mrnicktoyouwell if you’re going down that route then you’d be even better off with an ISF. But now we’re talking 30k cars, not like 8 grand. No point comparing. The S4 would STILL be a better drive than any early 00’s commodore for less money.
@@KiwiCarLifeto be fair id wager a large portion of your viewers are from over the pond where obviously there’s a lot more commodores so they’re a similar price here
I was about to buy one of these, just as well the owner was honest that the timing chain guides were worn and the timing had jumped. I dont know why they used plastic guides instead of the RS metal guides.. Thats literally the only downfall about buying one of these older s4's. Other then that, great car. By the way, still waiting on that f80 m3 review..
What a bargain! What could go wrong with a VW Audi product, when it's typical VW Audi built to last^? 🙂 Long live small (for a V8) high-revving NA V8 engines! ^ last the warranty period. There are definitely keen owners who are happy to spend $10-15k fixing their $5-10k car -- fair play to them!
_Hmm not an Audi fan but it’s a lot of car for under $10k, I guess if you’re willing to buy it then you’ll have to accept those potential maintenance woes_ .. _good review_
Liam I love how you still have the memories embroidered in your brain from the accord euros and still somehow compare it in some way to the cars you review today. 👍🏻. Sounds like your love for them is definitely still there.
Ehh... they're good first cars but I'm on to my 20th now so it's fair to say I've moved on. Would recommend for someone looking for a first/second car though
Have you ever considered going back to a Cl9 because I’m looking at them again and they’re head and shoulders above the competition in the budget as a manual
Yeah I've done every conceivable Accord video possible. Need to diversify my content. Honestly man, get a 130i manual, far better car for the same money.
340hp V8, manual and awd sound like ultimate car to play with in sand roads / winter, Too bad its almost 1800kg luxyry VW with that engine hanging hanging mostly in front axle. More than enough for your avg joe as daily drive, but trashing or track daying it will come really costly ( aint gonna be cheap to keep as only daily drive either..)
@@KiwiCarLife I may or may not be getting one in the coming months, located in palmerston north, I'll hit you up to review it if I do eventually get one & you haven't already.
I think if they were better, manufacturers would still use them. Especially because they're probably cheaper to manufacture too. But because no one makes a timing belt car anymore, its safe to say the chain (in 99% of cars that don't have issues) is better
@@KiwiCarLifemaybe, probably more that in idiot non car people's minds all they think is "chain better no cambelt job" so it sells easier to average public. Those same average public car owners never want to do oil changes or servicing and timing chains are rattling like buggery. Honestly I can't believe the mentality of never spending a cent maintaining a car.
A grand won’t get you much these days, try 5 grand maybe. Look at a second generation (2008-2013) Honda Fit/Jazz. A manual first generation Jazz is a good car too.
KiwiCarLife : I've had this exact Audi S4 B6 2003 with the 4,2 litre V8 5valves/cylinder 6-speed manual and it had 343 HP at the crank....this is a direct itteration from the Audi S8 D2 (1996-2003) that had the exact same 4,2 litre V8 but with 313 HP. This engine was everything that Ford Mustangs 2003 4,6 litre V8 engine wanted to be....but it had the exact same FUEL INEFFICIENCY PROBLEM....in the city if you had a heavy leg it ate minimum continuous of 27 litres of gasoline and it could go easily above 30 litres / 100 km of fuel consumption. On the open road I couldn't get it below 18 litres at even the regulated speeds. It was as hungry as the american V8-s....but thus because of smaller volume and higher HP/litre it was technically more efficient....but for the EU roads it was simply to hugnry.
There must have been something seriously wrong with your car because even this one was doing low teens. My ISF with a 5.0L V8 averaged around 15L/100km. This is a smaller engine so under 10L/100km should be achievable
I would get a RS4. You can get one for as low as $25k and are a FUTURE classic. Also correct me if I am wrong but I thought the 5v S4 was a Timing belt?
The interior is one of the best parts about it imo, it's a handsome dash layout. It's a bit harsh to review old cars and chastise it for being outdated.
Bang for buck it is more than adequate. Driving experience would make up for it.
Compared with BMW though, this interior looks far worse and reallllly falls apart. I wasn’t comparing it with new cars, compared with cars from the era, the layout and build quality is not as good as its competition.
@@KiwiCarLife hey mate, also live in New Zealand and never really bought a car just for "fun" before, just for reliability. Got a really good raise last year so have some extra money. If this V8 for 10k isn't worth it, what is?
@@BrumBrumBryn what kind of driving do you want to do with the potential car?
@@rtt987 I have a 2019 CX-5 Takami. It's nice and smooth on the open road. Nice nappa leather interior for a comfy ride. Turbo for when I want to pass someone and feel a little speedy, but being an SUV it's very floaty due to the suspension. But that's my every day and long distance to Tauranga-Auckland-Hamilton in the weekends. Looking for something that feels a bit more attached to the road, little bit more exciting. Drove my flatmates 350z once and the way it stuck to the road like glue in the curves made me very jealous. Looking for something I can drive in the weekend, have fun, not be stupid but still enjoy a lot when going to see people.
From 1972-2015 Audi ruled the world, it was always Piech's first love within the VW Group because of his personal history with the brand and it's rise.
I aren't so sure it's the brand it once was, but we should celebrate the good times.. who else was bonkers enough to cram a twin turbo V10 into a family car?
I wouldn't say from 1972... by about 2005 I'd say that's when they got good. Their latest stuff is a mixed bag, not as bad as BMW's latest stuff
Older European performance cars offer massive bang for buck, but can be ticking time bombs, I bought an Audi S6 V10 for $10k, drove it for 2 years and sold it for $9.5k. I replaced a leaking radiator, but had zero other problems. I reckon that, if they are cheap enough, these high performance Euros Make a lot of sense.
How many kms did you cover in those two years though? You could potentially end up spending the purchase price for the timing chain job with an S4, and the likelihood of it requiring it considering the age of the car absolutely makes them a ticking time bomb. It only makes sense if you can do all your own work and at least not have to pay labour to keep maintaining it.
@@gavinr9107 About 15000 kms
Yeah I agree, I probably wouldn't recommend something like this, but there's a lot of other options with less chance of catastrophic faults that make for sensational cars
Yes! Bought it at 200k km and had it for three years as a daily driver, no serious problems only performance upgrades. Cheers!
How good!
Great review mate, that is a lot of car for 10 grand!
Thanks! Yeah sure is
Not even watched yet & already commenting! Risk? I’d have a b6 all day long
Great cars for sure! But I'd consider one risky to own. Could be mint, or could be a headache
always wanted one of these! 👀
They're cool aye!
Looks brilliant and classy. Too bad repairs and parts dont cost a tenth of it when it was new.....Buying one is easy, maintenance is a different story. BTW, your filming, editing, and overall quality has gone next level. Well done!! 👌
Thanks man! Yeah I guess it would be possible to have one and not have too many issues, but it could also be a nightmare
im very Euro when it comes to my car taste but randomly id love to see you Do a video on a XR6 Turbo Manual, I see some really nice ones here in Christchurch.
Barra is one special engine for sure, if he can get his hands on a modified one even better
I had one lined up but it got written off
If you want a large engine and a manual transmission at a bargain price, look at the Mitsubishi 380.
They are an absolute piece of crap. Didn’t sell new, and worthless now HAHA. There is absolutely no comparison between a 380 and an S4.
Same power to weight as a stock accord the engine size is irrelevant in this situation may aswell suggest a Land Rover
My dad used too the own the 2004 Audi a4 1.8L turbo b6 Quattro was an amazing car for that time he had a tune on it and exhaust
They're nice cars!
Love my 2008 S5 V8 🤗
Ooh yesss
One of the best sounding V8’s of all time with an exhaust
Oh yeah definitely
Not all of them have no heated seats. I’m buying one off my friend right now, it’s fully optioned. It has heated seats, auto headlights, home link, and I quite enjoy the interior. Although I will admit most of those crappy plastic buttons have been recently replaced.
Yeah must be a spec thing
Similar story with the M62B44. Great reliable engines as long as the timing chains are part of a robust preventative maintenance schedule. Ask me how I know. 20+ hour job on the driveway.
Yeah I’ve done it before. Main thing is actually the tensioner, if you replace that the guides and chain are fine
@KiwiCarLife That's true, but the guides do get brittle with age and will break when the car is started in the morning when the chain has a little slack.
my dream car, it is very difficult to change engine chain . But still great car
Well... yeah that's the trouble haha. Great when working! Not great when not working
Nice car.Never owned a V8,always liked the B6 S4 manual.If it has a good engine,consider UK market.Owned a lot of cars,lots of turbo Subaru’s.Now driving a turbo 5 cylinder 4WD.
what's the turbo 5cyl 4WD? Audi? Or perhaps a Focus?
@@Incommensurabilities Did Ford make a 5 cylinder turbo 4WD?
@@daveearnshaw6874yeah it’s called a ranger, if you’re talking about an Rs3 most people would call that AWD instead of 4WD “yes there’s a difference”
Ranger haha classic
Audi Vorsprung durch understeer!
For $10k it’s a great buy and would be hoot drive.
Oh absolutely I loved this one
As the saying goes " A car that was a hundred thousand dollars when it was new 20 years ago still thinks it's a hundred thousand dollar car today".
Doesn't mean it's a bad car!
@@KiwiCarLife no definitely not, I wasn't saying it was, Iwould love one of these
A V8 Commodore is a much more sensible alternative.
They’re 2-3 times the price and MUCH worse to drive with a horrendous interior (even worse than this!). No comparison
@@KiwiCarLifebut they have a much better and more reliable engine with way more potential. And cheap to fix. And RWD.
@@mrnicktoyouwell if you’re going down that route then you’d be even better off with an ISF. But now we’re talking 30k cars, not like 8 grand. No point comparing. The S4 would STILL be a better drive than any early 00’s commodore for less money.
These sound much better lmao
@@KiwiCarLifeto be fair id wager a large portion of your viewers are from over the pond where obviously there’s a lot more commodores so they’re a similar price here
I was about to buy one of these, just as well the owner was honest that the timing chain guides were worn and the timing had jumped. I dont know why they used plastic guides instead of the RS metal guides.. Thats literally the only downfall about buying one of these older s4's. Other then that, great car. By the way, still waiting on that f80 m3 review..
Yeah just cost cutting I guess. That's the thing, even a well looked after one could be great or it could be a basket case
What a bargain! What could go wrong with a VW Audi product, when it's typical VW Audi built to last^? 🙂
Long live small (for a V8) high-revving NA V8 engines!
^ last the warranty period. There are definitely keen owners who are happy to spend $10-15k fixing their $5-10k car -- fair play to them!
I think it is possible to own a car like this and not have it bankrupt you, helps if you're handy with the tools yourself
_Hmm not an Audi fan but it’s a lot of car for under $10k, I guess if you’re willing to buy it then you’ll have to accept those potential maintenance woes_ .. _good review_
Yeah that's the one!
Liam I love how you still have the memories embroidered in your brain from the accord euros and still somehow compare it in some way to the cars you review today. 👍🏻. Sounds like your love for them is definitely still there.
Ehh... they're good first cars but I'm on to my 20th now so it's fair to say I've moved on. Would recommend for someone looking for a first/second car though
Have you ever considered going back to a Cl9 because I’m looking at them again and they’re head and shoulders above the competition in the budget as a manual
He's done like a hundred videos on various CL9s over the years so I would doubt it.
Can't lie tho, I would love some more cl9 content.
Yeah I've done every conceivable Accord video possible. Need to diversify my content. Honestly man, get a 130i manual, far better car for the same money.
This would totally make a very good sleeper car. Great for someone like me who dont wanna attract cops lol
Yeah definitely!
Come on bro why did you post this, now I'm wanting to buy the manual S4 wagon I've seen for sale near me.
Haha do it!
I would buy one but only in avant form
I dunno... I'm more of a sedan guy. Have no use for a big wagon
340hp V8, manual and awd sound like ultimate car to play with in sand roads / winter, Too bad its almost 1800kg luxyry VW with that engine hanging hanging mostly in front axle.
More than enough for your avg joe as daily drive, but trashing or track daying it will come really costly ( aint gonna be cheap to keep as only daily drive either..)
Yeah man it's a fantastic combo, the weight means it holds the road really well, and good ride quality. But yeah I guess it doesn't feel "nimble"
It revs to 8000! that's a key selling point right there
7000? Only the RS4 goes to 8000
That is a car you shouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. 2nd hand Audis are a depinned grenade. 😂😂
Lotsa fun to drive someone else's though.
Agree. It's amazing its still on the road - used VAG cars are time bombs.
@ashleychong1673 had a mk4 gti (the worst) for 7 years with no issues and now have a b8 s4 2 years also no issues even though highly modified
Yeah people who say they're "ticking time bombs" have either never owned one, or never owned a "good" one
8th gen manual galant vr4 review one day?
That would be cool
@@KiwiCarLife I may or may not be getting one in the coming months, located in palmerston north, I'll hit you up to review it if I do eventually get one & you haven't already.
Often a timing belt is better, get it changed with the water pump and you rarely have grief😅.
There's a reason it's a chain and not a belt, also there's a reason why the timing chain guides are plastic too lol..
I think if they were better, manufacturers would still use them. Especially because they're probably cheaper to manufacture too. But because no one makes a timing belt car anymore, its safe to say the chain (in 99% of cars that don't have issues) is better
@@KiwiCarLifemaybe, probably more that in idiot non car people's minds all they think is "chain better no cambelt job" so it sells easier to average public. Those same average public car owners never want to do oil changes or servicing and timing chains are rattling like buggery. Honestly I can't believe the mentality of never spending a cent maintaining a car.
Heading to NZ for seasonal work, looking to buy a cheap car to runaround with but would like something sporty, is $3k too low of a budget?
Could probably get a decent Civic or Integra at that price perhaps, otherwise any car for 3K will likely need 3K worth of maintenance instantly
Yeah that's kinda the problem is cars that cheap are almost never perfect
Maybe a corolla runx z more like 5k
when i saw new video from KiwiCarLife, "g'day g'day" in my head :P
Classic
Got question what would you recommend for a restricted driver who need the most fuel efficient car for like a grand
A grand won’t get you much these days, try 5 grand maybe. Look at a second generation (2008-2013) Honda Fit/Jazz. A manual first generation Jazz is a good car too.
Yeah man take the bus while you save up for something better
ridge road great road
Oh yes
How heavy is it
1660kg
@@KiwiCarLife not to bad for a bug v8
can barely hear you over the interior rattles 😂
Lol
KiwiCarLife : I've had this exact Audi S4 B6 2003 with the 4,2 litre V8 5valves/cylinder 6-speed manual and it had 343 HP at the crank....this is a direct itteration from the Audi S8 D2 (1996-2003) that had the exact same 4,2 litre V8 but with 313 HP. This engine was everything that Ford Mustangs 2003 4,6 litre V8 engine wanted to be....but it had the exact same FUEL INEFFICIENCY PROBLEM....in the city if you had a heavy leg it ate minimum continuous of 27 litres of gasoline and it could go easily above 30 litres / 100 km of fuel consumption. On the open road I couldn't get it below 18 litres at even the regulated speeds.
It was as hungry as the american V8-s....but thus because of smaller volume and higher HP/litre it was technically more efficient....but for the EU roads it was simply to hugnry.
There must have been something seriously wrong with your car because even this one was doing low teens. My ISF with a 5.0L V8 averaged around 15L/100km. This is a smaller engine so under 10L/100km should be achievable
@@KiwiCarLife No, I just had a heavy foot :) ....but still it ate too much. This was known for these first and second gen VW-s V8-s.
lets goo
Yessss
I would get a RS4. You can get one for as low as $25k and are a FUTURE classic.
Also correct me if I am wrong but I thought the 5v S4 was a Timing belt?
True... but they are in quite a different price bracket to these
Early here to watch you my ghee
Thanks!
V8 hanging well over the front wheels, yea nah
Quattro baby
Certainly gives good front end traction
People ask are audis reliable, just ask your local volkswagen golf owner. They are pretty much the same cars 😂
Had both with no issues... 9 years all up mk 4 gti and b8 s4. Zero issues
Yeah honestly depending on the model they can be pretty all good