PBD Reaction | Do Christians get k1ll3d for converting to Islam?
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- TMC responds and reacts to the recent PBD Podcast hosing Daniel from @MuslimSkeptic and Jake from @JakeBrancatella and their demolition of the two worms Spence, and Rashed.
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When I converted to Islam from Christianity I received death threats and I am not the only one. Nowadays, I still am bullied, insulted, discriminated and attacked because I converted. My family tried to buy me back so they give monthly pocket money to all my siblings but me. At the same time my brother received 15.000€ because he is so much into church stuff. So did I 5 years before I converted but I was asked to return that money to my family after my conversion.
One of our villagers started to wear Abaya and cover up totally so her entire family tried to kill her. She died at a very young age… But Alhamdulillah all the other sisters after that also converted to Islam and wear Abaya and cover well.
I come from Austria 🇦🇹 and here in my village it is common for families to abandon their converted family members. Thats why its especially hard for teenagers at the age of 14-17 and they sometimes give up being Muslim because the Christians make our life like hell.
Ya Allah, where are you from? May Allah grant Jannah to our sister who passed away.
A feeble fable from you then.
that sounds about right. Christians literally genocided people every where they went and they lie to the world as a religion of love, sure love of flesh, blood and slaughter of innocent. They even kill Jesus for their sins and muslims saying he wasn't killed for them, enrages them. I thought they would be happy to hear that, nooooooo, it drives them mad the idea of Jesus not dying for them. so loving of them. I call them ChriSATAN's
@@srbsrb3831 say bigot
wow. what country are you in? sounds savage. sounds like the people have no seperation of their religion and governance. that is a shame. this is what happens when people are fanatical about their religion.
Our two brothers did a great job Jake and Daniel. Ma Shaa Allah Tabarakaallah.
May Allah bless them
Ilhan Omar is 100% not a muslim.
Just like the ahmadiyya has nothing to do with Islam!
Your brother Daniel have no problem with having sex with children
The Quranic recitation in the beginning is so beautiful.
Yeah its Muhammad Al Luhaidan
It makes no sense to impose your religion on others especially in a debate forum
Depends on the person who hears it? To me, nothing but arabisation.
@@nobs997 but as the cowboy says, they love the sharia and the hudood. all of it:
Narrated 'Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
@@srbsrb3831 your opinion is irrelevant
Someone should have asked him 'why did you not turn the other cheek to Muslims instead of making a career out of attacking Muslims?'
You are so naive my friend..Do you really believe that Christians will not fight back?...they have all the nukes remember?...If you are my neighbor acting like kings and bullies, you will get what you want..bec disrespect or dishonoring one person is like killing them..That is our tradition.....
He gets paid to be an Islamophobe!
Pretty much
Because they love to play the martyr/victim card until they have any actual power then they will persecute you out of existence that’s the history of their entire religion they have no concept of toleration at all they had to throw their entire religious tradition out the window and kill each other for 200 years to discover that idea
😂😂👍👍👍
The scary thing is that all this government agencies are relying on Robert’s work as study material to learn about Islam.
@@FleeceJohnson7331Hell Has Many Valleys for the disbelievers let him do what he likes he will die one day and he will face Allah
They don’t rely on Robert’s works. They pay him as a 3rd party and dictate what they want him to say and then he is told to lie and spread propaganda!
They believe their narrative, its not about the truth.
Would you kill me if I left Islam and became an apostate?
Would you kill me if I was from whatever country you’re from and was found guilty of grand treason?
Around minute 15:00 , when he said Converted Muslims are killed in Arab counties. One of the examples is Jordan. This is the worst lie. I lived in Jordan for many years and part of my family still there. We never read or heard of one single case about this. This guy Hammami, main objective is getting approved for his refugee case in USA.
Even what he said about Morocco, that's a big lie, in Morocco, no one care about apostate, they live like everyone else. He just wants to pity him and like you said he want to be approved for his refuge case in USA 😮💨🤡
@@zeinaaidara Hopefully no green card for him.
" This is the worst lie" Did you live all over Jordan at the same time knowing all what took place every where? In Nigeria Christians are killed, churches are destroyed and so forth. In Pakistan an imam was beheaded for speaking against Islam. These things happen all the time..Its just that you guys are not being honest to yourselves
He said he reverted from Islam while he was 17, which according to his DOB should be around 1988 AD, then stayed ((underground 🤔)) until he fled the country in 2005 😮... so, 18 years of undergrounding 😅😂😂
True
Doing financially well while being homeless😂
What's funny, he's already sinning even as a Christian by lying, breaking 1 of the 10 commandments LOL
I heard him say he fled Three years after converting, I guess it is a mystery
@@schy9614He's a lying weasel by every metric..
Ya Allah, I came to tears when you almost broke into tears at 19:53 when you quoted Messenger Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said to spare the offsprings. May Allah guides us all.
Salaamualaikum from South Africa brother cowboy. At around 20 min when talking about prophet pbuh and Taif brought tear to me eyes. Your love for him came through and reminded me of my late husband who was a lover of the prophet pbuh. He schooled in England and was a practising attorney here in South Africa. He reverted to Islam when he met me. He was passionate about the deen ❤❤❤❤❤❤
It brings tears to my eyes every time I hear about that story, and I must have heard it a thousand times.
Subhannallah
BismiLlah.
Ma Shaa Allah.
TabakaLlah.
We are really proud to have you in our Ummah. ALHAMDOLILLAH.
We, as people who were born Muslim, often do not learn or realize the reality of Muslim challenges in non-Muslim majority countries. I am proud to have people like brothers Daniel & Jack as Muslim representatives in the debate session. Greetings from your brothers and sisters in Indonesia.
"Muslim representative in the debate session" The debate session is the only thing that makes Islam look good. That is why Muslims wants it only to remain a debate, and no more.
May Allah reward you and all brothers who defend and spread the message of Islam
When an Arab christian convert to Isma they are persecuted espevially in a jordanian female was slaughtered by her father snd brother because she revèted to Islam... but no body talks about such incidents ...
Masha Allah. We are so proud of you too brother. May Allah be pleased with your efforts.
'We are proud of you too brother" Appearing in a coat and tie and making analysis is one thing...seeing Muslims in action is something different
Beautifully said brother. May Allah reward you for this
There's nothing you can do to Certified Islamophobe, but this is a great opportunity for PBD to host the debate. Because the objective is not to bring these 2 men to light, but to the audiences with open mind & truth seeker.
Absolutely spot on. That was the whole purpose of it. Yet you still see emotional people around judging
Great points. What's funny to me as an Arab is that western islamophobes make it seem like we believe in some sort of vigilante justice. Like a cartoonish Disney depiction.
Why does apostasy law still exists is some Muslim countries?
@@nobs997
Why not?
Where? @@nobs997
@@Just-One-God Shouldn't people be free to choose their faith?
@@nobs997
That's liberalism, which is not our ideology in the first place.
And Islamically, for an apostate to be able to face death sentence, it requires having two reliable eye-witnesses in the _sharia_ court. Gaining eye-witnesses isn't an easy task, which increases the likelihood of such death sentence to fail to be carried out. An apostate basically remains safe in Islamic countries as long as he/she keeps it secret.
Another point to add is that the general Islamic scholars are on the side of the opinion that an apostate must be given the three-day chance to return back as a Muslim first before he/she could be brought into a _sharia_ court.
May Allah reward you for this video! Well articulated and logical arguments.
Loved your analysis and clarifications - under liberalism it is so sad to see how many unborn children have been killed via abortion. This is just one example, but in order to preserve society it has to be based on divine moral code. May Allah continue to bless you and your hard work.
May Allah bless all the reverts and Daies.❤Aameen
Verses about Apostasy Law in the Bible : 2 Chronicles 15:13, Exodus 22:20, Exodus 34:13-14, Deut 12:2-4, Leviticus 24:16, Deut 20:16-18, Deut 13:1-16, Deut 17:2-7, Numbers 25:1-13.
right. this is why secularism is so important. religion and governance are like oil and water. the bible like the koran and sunnah has lots of bad laws and poor actors.
❤
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi There are no bad laws in the Quran and Sunnah. Just because you think with your defiled, stupid and limited kafir brain that something is bad doesn’t mean it’s bad.
@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi What bad laws are there in the Quran?. Especially when secularists laws say its ok to kill unborn babies even up to the point of birth?.
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi no muslim will agree with you on "quran has a lots of bad law" we beleive in 1 god and all the laws from him. but the problem is we don't follow all of them right, thus the the whole system does not work as it should. for example if you buy a car and throw out the steering wheel cuz you "don't like it", your car will be useless.
May ALLAh swt bless and reward you brother clarify the messages
God bless you Cowboy brother ❤
Bible says that those who teach other teachings must be silenced :
«They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach.»
(Titus 1:11)
6:16 Brother you need to edit that part, because it seems that Saheeh Al-Bukhari and the Ahadith are inauthentic like the bible. The most authentic book after the Quran is Saheeh Al-Bukhari. The Bible is nothing like the Hadith. We have the Isnad and the most trustworthy and accurate narrators in each chain.
@@Ibn_Abdulaziz ???? What? 🤨
@@aqfj5zy Doing what?
@@ElyasQuick1 I was talking to the brother on the video. As for the debate, then the Muslims were referring to the old testament in order to use it against the liberal christians. This shows you that the Muslims do not view the christian god who transitions into a man, begets a child and murders it as more evil than the harsh commandments in the old testament.
Because the christians were talking about how loving their man-god is. You could've asked him if abortion is loving? If he says no, then isn't human sacrificing your own son instead of lambs greater than abortion?
Even Thomas Payne said that christianity is advocating human sacrifice. But he felt short, because christians believe the victim is God, hence making it worse than illuminati or the aztecs.
@@Ibn_AbdulazizOk what the freaking hell are you saying
Jazakallah Brother for more clarifications appreciated your hard working!!!
Great points!
Thanks brother for the video! 💐
I am from Mauritania, and he is lying. The guy was condemned to death, which means life in prison - we don't have executions in Mauritania since 91 - then the state released him after he was found innocent of the charges against him.
ok, glad you don't have the death penalty. but what exactly was he charged with?
what about libya?
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2ziwhy not? You americans march to the east to kill millions of muslims and you are here crying about a death sentence 🤡
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi why are you glad?
@@_Cfocus because the death penalty is bad. if you make a mistake there is no undoing it.
so what was the guy charged with?
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2ziIf you leave islam privately who's gonna judge you or punish you ? We humans do not know what's inside the hearts of humans , so if you leave islam just don't misguide other people and you will be safe
100% right, definitely is a weasel and worm ! Our brothers did a great job!
So beautiful SubhanAllah qirat
Just finished watching 5 seasons of Yellowstone and I'm so happy to have discovered your channel and that there are Muslim cowboys too, yeehaw brother!! 🤠👢🙌🏽
Looking good Tbark’Allah bro!
And excellent video!!
Jazak’Allah Bi Khayr
Great points bro I couldn't have said it better. You took the words out of my mouth
Jake did an amazing job alhamdulillah ❤❤❤Islam will prevail over all ways of life and falsehood cannot win ❤❤❤the end Allahu akbar
جزاك الله خيرا
This was very solid actually
Actually this issue of apostasy law in shariah is debatable. I don't know why the brothers didn't mention that, because many Islamic scholars contemporary and historic pointed that the death penalty is not actually for leaving the religion, but rather its for treason to the state as in old days all citizens were considered soldiers.
This is a good point.
It's not debatable whatsoever. The four schools of jurisprudence & all the classical scholars of Islam agree that the apostasy law is about leaving the religion, because it's based on an authentic hadith of the prophet Muhammad {PBUH} where he says: "whoever changes his religion (ie Islam) ќἷłł him". And this hadith has been reported by all the books of hadith, and it's not only this one, but there are other narrations mentioning the same thing.
My brother is a Muslim and I'm ashamed of the ignorance of some so called Christians
Masha allah...very nice explanation.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله … عجبني اللقب ( الضال والمضل)
Alhamdulelah you can see how the Muslims hold their grounds and not weasel around their scripture to make themselves look good meanwhile making their religion look bad. Wallahi you know the truth by simply looking at who doesn't lie and change their views every time you tell them your bible says this or that...
Oh really 😂How many hands and legs does your "god" have again?😂
@@mrnoyapp sorry to disappoint you, troll. But you got the wrong “god”. Try again maybe you will be able to succeed next time!
Why is feared,no one has no right to take anyone's life nor to harm anyone.
Bismillah
Salaamu alaikum all. Great video Masha’Allah. His other fallacy is to equate the actions of a particular group of people with the religion. If American Christians truly followed the Bible their would be a whole host of laws he would not like. In the past Christians have carried out capital punishment for apostasy. Ironically enough the inquisition is evidence and it was done on the ancestors of many Moroccans. This guy like most modern Christians is more influenced by secular liberalism than The Bible.
Much love from Bangladeshi Cowboy 🥰❤️🥰. AssmuWalikum everyone.
All I heared from the ex muslim is "wa wa wa me me me". I have yet to see a person leaving Islam for an intellectual reason, it's all emotions.
Its always an emotional reason
not really, they always do it for money and green card😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂
Been snoozing on your content akhi subscribed I watch you on dawawise ect. But I like your distinct style respect manurisms jazzakallah kheir for what you are doing akhi
Amazing video ! Thanks for the clarification ❤
جزاك الله خيرا
Such a beautiful effort brother ❤️
Cowboy, u rock MashaAllah!
Good job!
Jazakallah Khairan Muslim Cowboy🙏🏻 May your efforts are abundantly rewarded by Allah SWT. Aamiin YRA🤲🏻🤲🏻
Masha'ALLAH, assalamualaikum Brother... may Allah granted you all, hidayah... wassalamualaikum🙏☝
Masaallah I learned from you brother thanks!
بارك الله فيك
Mashaallah... Subhanallah...so well said by our Texan brother,may Allah bless u bro amin amin Allahuma amin
3:37 apparently, in the podcast, spencer seems to say words that indicates well it’s not entirely the word of God but the word of men (inspiration)
I wished they touched on that but anyways
:55 “2 people that have a lot more knowledge than Andrew”…nice back handed compliment, Subhanallah!!
nice suit sir.
3:50 but ROBERT SPENCER said New Testament CANCELS Old Testament Lol
1:16 awesome description
I kept looking at him and I really was like that’s why the hadd of murtad is there
He’s a clear example.
His main aim there was not to refute Islam but to turn ppl away from it
so he should be killed?
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi i believe u were answered in the video
@@mzmi1422this guy is commenting all over this comment section just ignore him clearly he hasn't watched the video
@@aishaarshadalam3412 ah ok
Jazakillah khayr
Jazakom Allah khair
Rachid is dollar and dollar, no christianity
Robert Spencer’s ‘Intellectual midgetry’ 👌🏼
Mashallah, great vid, good editing, may Allah guide the apostates before it's too late
so do you support the hadd punishment of death to the apostate?
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi Apostasy is treated like a virus that must be confined or obliterated when public health and safety are at risk.
If your apostasy is private to yourself, and not going on a rampage lying about Islam, not blaspheming the Prophet, not misguiding others from the Truth, and most particularly not committing treason against the state, you are free and safe from the state execution of the law against you.
There were few apostates during the lifetime of the Prophet who maintained their low after their apostasy and were not killed but left to live safely.
@@vansabitabdulazeez9202 yeah i get it. islam likes to equate things to diseases/viruses.
"obliterated when public health and safety are at risk." yeah the nazis talked about the jews in that same language. or the hutus about the tutsis in rawanda. or maybe the other eay around. the serbs said that about the muslims in yugoslovia. when does this lead to good outcomes? or today the muslims talk about the gays like that.
oh, treason. lmao. what isn't treason in the caliphate? what isn't 'srpreading corruption? [see 5:32 and 33] when does the hisbah break out the whip? the sword?
have you read the book of jihad by ibn nuhaas? you sound just like him. 'jihad is the cure for society and disbelief is the disease.' lmao.
well i'm a public kaffir, so should i be killed?
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2ziyes
If execution for murder is justified, then how can punishment for apostasy, which is greater sin than murder, not be justified? 🤔 Also, it's useful for protecting society & religion, taking God seriously, and God making it harder for believers to enter eternal hellfire?
Daniel and Jake just destroyed it nailed it.
When the truth hurts. Islam is a way of life. If u left Islam and chose to be a non muslim, we as muslims can only pray for u you to revert back. May Allah forgive us.
Beautiful recitation to start off 👍
Jazakum’Allah khayra
At the end of the day, they can *never* hide the truth that their religion is, by Scripture, more brutal than Islam.
Allah is The Best of Planner.
that is why we do need seperation of religion and governance.
so has daniel been banned from traveling? has he ever been arrested and charged with what? daniel is claiming he challenges the system and if you do, you are put to death. so how is he still alive? you call rashid a liar for saying he was 'homeless' and then said he was doing well financially. daniel is clearly lying. or else he would be dead. lmao.
God bless you
When jesus comesback he will till these Christian's to get away from him he got nothing to do with them😂
Thank you and God bless you all defending Islam
Alhamdulillah
thank you brother
El hamdouli ALLAH,zazaka ALLAH hoe geran 🙏
I’m not Muslim but I have requested a English Quran it’s not come yet coming by post
Jzk Brother. I just found your channel AlhamdulIllah. The reasoning and clarity of your arguments are very satisfying and interesting MashAllah. Please keep up your valuable work ameen and may Allah bless you and all your family ameen
I know many muslim born fellows who left Islam publicly still enjoy their life the way they want .no body persevute them .. they just leave home and
Yeah, so many people are lying about islam, problem is not leaving, actual problem leaving islam after announcing lies about it is the problem and people usually ignore that fact
Sunan Ibn Majah 2839
It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbas said:
“Sa’b bin Jaththamah said: ‘The Prophet (ﷺ) was asked about the polytheists who are attacked at night, and their women and children are killed.’ He said: ‘They are from among them.’”
ma shaa Allah Patricj should invite you too brother!
Alhamdulilah and well put my brother
The process of Christian takes place through emotion in a very direct way. When you dialogue with a Christian, you hear words such as “God loves you,” “Know God’s plan for your life,” “You are the son of God,” etc. Its direct path is emotion and nothing else. The Christian plays directly on the emotion you have, and I will not hide from you that I see it as a week plan for many simple personalities who you can laugh at with resonant words that arouse emotion. As for thinking personalities, this manipulation does not succeed at all!
Quran 42-6 And those who take as allies other than Him - Allāh is [yet] Guardian over them; and you, [O Muḥammad], are not over them a manager -
Here in Libya we have muslims of Greek origin who left greece because of persecution from trying to make them as " turks " not as greek people who converted to islam , to unjust treatment because they are muslims
After greece gained it's independent from othman empire alot of greek muslims were chased out and persecuted undwr the guises that they are turks and what ever they believed
So the the thing he hated was literally done to these muslim greek in greece back then .
But the double standards is on another level
Egypt , Lebanon, Palestine , etc have Christians, morroco have Jewish, Yemen up untill the war that happened in their country also have Yemeni Jewish who lived there for thousand years , Indonesia also has some non muslim population were they kicked out .
Glad you improved your audio and audio levels
Salam brother, new to this channel. My observation is that here in the West (Live in UK), people have no daily interaction with divine law and separation of Church and State amplifies that so many have adopted secular values and are desensitised to the checks in balances provided to us in a society by God/Allah (SWT) so are shocked by some of it to the point of denying it aka Robert Spencer on whether Apostasy is inherently morally wrong. There is always strict due process to follow and its not for a "citizen" to enact any Sharia Law.
People like these two like to stand on some "moral high ground" but its built of quicksand that cannot withstand the slighted challange. I hope David Bet next time brings on genuine credible Christians to debate important theological views in the hope that it educates the ignorant that Islam does not have an inherent ill will towards Christians or Jews so as a society we can all do better against some of this craziness that affects all our kids today. People peddling Islamaphobia are making bank by spreading hate. May Allah guide and protect us all.
Very Good points 👍
Maasha Allah brother 👏🏾
( 137 ) Indeed, those who have believed then disbelieved, then believed, then disbelieved, and then increased in disbelief - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a way.
( 138 ) Give tidings to the hypocrites that there is for them a painful punishment - ( Quran 4 :137 -138 )
In Morocco who ever kills a apostate, he would be thrown I. Jail. It’s not in their constitution.
Masha Allah Brother wish u the best in both lives
ماشاء الله ❤❤❤
They have destroyed them completely.
They must be regretting coming over 😂😂😂😂
المطلوب من المرتد الاَّ يعلن كفره ولايسيء للإسلام ولايحاربه ولايهينه ولايستفز المسلمين ولايؤذيهم في اغلى ماعندهم ! عقيدتهم ! لاتحارب الله ورسوله لاتسيء للإسلام والمسلمين وستكون آمن .. الأمر بسيط جداً !! لذلك وجبت عليك العقوبة لانك رفضت هذا الأمر البسيط ! واخترت الحرب !
اختاروا محاربة الاسلام ! ويريدون حرية الاساءة له ونشر الكفر واشاعة الفحشاء !
وهذه خيانة تستوجب القصاص 👌🏼
حتى خونة الأوطان تتم عقوبتهم ! لماذ هنا يجوز ؟! وهناك لا ؟!
تطرفهم وعنصريتهم تعميهم !!
صحيح
جزاكم الله خيرا
Thanks brother for your efforts, Allah bless you
Never in my life....watching muslim cowboy... 😂❤
جزاك الله خيراً 🤲🤲
Masha'ALLAH Masha'ALLAH my brother, I love you for the sake of ALLAH SWT
They follow Paul who called God foolish!