"How am I slower than last run?" You weren't... you were much faster. You were simply looking at Kosmos time which was faster than the time you would have gotten...
I think the checkpoint split confused him. He was slower at the last checkpoint. He just forgot he didn't go straight to the finish last time so had a really long split between checkpoint and finish. I groaned so hard when he reset.
@@xyex Ugh same!! I was like, "Didn't you re-enter the same checkpoints many more times on your first run?! That's why it was slower, not the lead-up to them!"
It’s interesting that before you showed this prison to anyone, as the title says, you were literally the only person in the entire world to know how to escape
Dapper, you can't rely on brute force to solve escape rooms. it goes against the spirit. You needed another clue somewhere that would indicate which of the 4 paths was correct.
Agreed, that irked me a bit. What he could have done was named the track "Sweet Escape". The "Sweet" hinting to 16 for "Sweet 16" and then after that they know that the next number has to be 5 to make it 21. Otherwise still a very fun and unique track.
@@acherem13 I am not so sure about that hint.. it's not global.. it would lead unsubcribtions as it's seems to be dum american saying.. had to google what " sweet sixteen" mean.. it's only used on usa and canada...
@@Mike_Dubayou you misunderstood... "sweet sixteen" as hint would only work on small part of world... it's not about map, but possible hint he could have given.. and also "sarcasm"
The concept was cool, but the players not in discord did not get the same info we are hearing in the video. We just see _+_=21, then have to figure out what to do when we make 21. We dont know the doors were supposed to open. We dont know there is only 1 correct equation.
Yeah I agreed with kan's point A good escape room is solvable without forcing a combination lock Obviously people gather clues and figure it out and probably do try multiple options to rule them out but it should be solvable, not "just check every combination till it works"
__ + __ = 21 A) 19 + 2 B) 18 + 3 C) 17 + 4 D) 16 + 5 "Guys, it's OBVIOUSLY option D. It's just logic." This is kind of a textbook study on why playtesting is important. Obvious to the creator is rarely obvious to the player in a puzzle game.
As Dapper said himself, this was not to give the solution to the path, but narrow down the 8x7x6x5x...x1=40.000 possible combinations down to your 4 solutions. Because you as the player don't know if you should take them all or just 5. With his math he gave you the hint that it should only be two paths and that those are linked by logic. Then it's just trial and error.
9:30 noooo why did you reset? xD The quicker times was from taking the wrong path and you were just cruising around when you got the time. you were like a minute faster!
The last section reminds me of grade school math. Multiple ways of solving a problem but if you don't "SHOW YOUR WORK" and it's the same method the teacher wanted to use you fail. I hate math.
Math room reminded me of that one guy who made a calculator out of rollercoasters in RCT2 a few years back. Lots of logic and checks, but it just works. 😂
It wasn't slower. The 1st time you made it: you went through the checkpoints again because the door still wasn't open. Your 1st time was 2: 29 Your second time would have been 1: 40 something. I was saying, "aw oh no Dappper. Just finish. You're so close to the end already."
Doors didn't open right away, so you retook the paths. That is why the checkpoints said you were slow. There was no need to reset as you were going through the doors as you were already a minute ahead of the time you set.
Immediately my guess would be there is a booster somewhere and you need to hit it in the right direction. My first guess would have been directly in font of the start but you have to be driving toward the start
i like the idea of this track, but 10-12 mins isnt enough. this would be better at 15-20 since theres a multi-choice section to figure out at the last half, but i understand you dont want to set 1 map to nearly double the standard amount of time
To solve the hunger crisis in Africa it depends. There are several ways to do so. The most efficient way is through helping African countries respect property rights and weed out corruption. Those two factors will do 99% of the work. The other way is to create an international railway to distribute food. Logistics is a massive problem. But the train would need to be plural and refer cars. There is already enough food grown in America to feed the world and then some. That isn't counting on government enforced losses.
Ngl. It's really boring just watching you go in circles. It's like we gotta figure out the fun from the recording. Basically a podcast. Can you make videos where we follow your friends trying to figure it out?
Such heart break watching Dap restart on track time that was going to be 40 seconds better.
I really wanted him to nail the cheese
All 'cause he thought he'd been slower due to the timstamps that have nothing to do with what path you take.
Still wasn't going to get that podium though
Yeah, it hurt
It was because he thought he could do the cheese in time
"How am I slower than last run?"
You weren't... you were much faster. You were simply looking at Kosmos time which was faster than the time you would have gotten...
also he went through 3 paths on the first completed run
I think the checkpoint split confused him. He was slower at the last checkpoint. He just forgot he didn't go straight to the finish last time so had a really long split between checkpoint and finish.
I groaned so hard when he reset.
Bro Dapper Dumb 💀
Thenkssss goddd someone helped me at this
@@xyex Ugh same!! I was like, "Didn't you re-enter the same checkpoints many more times on your first run?! That's why it was slower, not the lead-up to them!"
It’s interesting that before you showed this prison to anyone, as the title says, you were literally the only person in the entire world to know how to escape
solid "I am 13 and this is deep" vibes on this comment
Not sure why it was never explained in the vid, but the second room's clue was 21. door 2, then door 1.
Door 2 "16", door 1 "5"
On the second-to-last run you weren't slower but when you use any path it saves the time. You went through the checkpoints multiple times.
Dapper, you can't rely on brute force to solve escape rooms. it goes against the spirit. You needed another clue somewhere that would indicate which of the 4 paths was correct.
Agreed, that irked me a bit. What he could have done was named the track "Sweet Escape". The "Sweet" hinting to 16 for "Sweet 16" and then after that they know that the next number has to be 5 to make it 21.
Otherwise still a very fun and unique track.
@@acherem13 I am not so sure about that hint.. it's not global.. it would lead unsubcribtions as it's seems to be dum american saying.. had to google what " sweet sixteen" mean.. it's only used on usa and canada...
What do you mean he left 3 clues that 16 and 5 were the right paths to take.
@@Xydroos who’s unsubscribing because they didn’t like playing a track lol are you 10?
@@Mike_Dubayou you misunderstood... "sweet sixteen" as hint would only work on small part of world... it's not about map, but possible hint he could have given.. and also "sarcasm"
I like how Dapper lets people figure it out, instead of leading the way for everyone to follow.
Also GG to Kosmo for podium.
Ya but with 3 answers still wrong dispite being the right answer proves he wanted them to guess wrong 75% of the time.
Wait, this is kind of a cool concept. The colour coding tiles remindes me of indoor rock climbing. Doing the red colour-coded path as you climb
2022: Dapper the Cheese Man
2023: Dapper the Reset Man
It did hurt.
The concept was cool, but the players not in discord did not get the same info we are hearing in the video. We just see _+_=21, then have to figure out what to do when we make 21. We dont know the doors were supposed to open. We dont know there is only 1 correct equation.
Yeah I agreed with kan's point
A good escape room is solvable without forcing a combination lock
Obviously people gather clues and figure it out and probably do try multiple options to rule them out
but it should be solvable, not "just check every combination till it works"
Kan's misery is just priceless 🤣
Kan’s a bit of a prick so I agree.
@@DarceyRecords y u think this?
__ + __ = 21
A) 19 + 2
B) 18 + 3
C) 17 + 4
D) 16 + 5
"Guys, it's OBVIOUSLY option D. It's just logic."
This is kind of a textbook study on why playtesting is important. Obvious to the creator is rarely obvious to the player in a puzzle game.
The logic was you just need to try the 4 different paths. The math made it go from 16 to 4 paths.
As Dapper said himself, this was not to give the solution to the path, but narrow down the 8x7x6x5x...x1=40.000 possible combinations down to your 4 solutions. Because you as the player don't know if you should take them all or just 5. With his math he gave you the hint that it should only be two paths and that those are linked by logic. Then it's just trial and error.
It would've been funny if you had to do 6, 6, 4, 5
Well... I'm not a black jack player. I just see 21.
@@cholsreammos That seems like a SpaceBalls combination. 😂 1,2,3,4,5
9:30
noooo why did you reset? xD
The quicker times was from taking the wrong path and you were just cruising around when you got the time. you were like a minute faster!
Maybe add a hint in the first room to know which two paths to take, instead of it just being "guess which pair to choose"
21 was door 2 and door 1
"Why i'm slower this time".
Going minute faster
Poor guy only looked at his split, not his actual time.
I feel smart. Figured out the red right away and then #2 and #1 almost right away.
This was one of the coolest tracks any of yall have ever done. I would love to see you mix the concept up run it again and add some time
Dapper should never work at an escape room
7:06
Well, technically it would either be 4 times or 4^4 which would be 16 times.
4^4 is 256
The last section reminds me of grade school math. Multiple ways of solving a problem but if you don't "SHOW YOUR WORK" and it's the same method the teacher wanted to use you fail. I hate math.
So based on this, do you really hate the math or do you just hate how it was taught to you?
You should show how you managed to make the switches! Very cool track!
I'm guessing rotating blocks that rotate other blocks
The "pressure pads" are actually a blueprint made by me available on Modkist!
@@notsmart if that's the case then your name is a lie!
@@notsmart So are the doors :P
Dapper should have called this one "my friends are dumb".
I like it. Interesting starting point for a Zeepkist escape room. I wonder if anyone will try to kick it up a notch.
to be fair the 16 + 5 had no real motivation except for brute forcing
Door 2 and Door 1.
Math room reminded me of that one guy who made a calculator out of rollercoasters in RCT2 a few years back.
Lots of logic and checks, but it just works. 😂
When i saw the _+_=21 my first thought was "9+10"
It wasn't slower. The 1st time you made it: you went through the checkpoints again because the door still wasn't open. Your 1st time was 2: 29
Your second time would have been 1: 40 something.
I was saying, "aw oh no Dappper. Just finish. You're so close to the end already."
Doors didn't open right away, so you retook the paths. That is why the checkpoints said you were slow. There was no need to reset as you were going through the doors as you were already a minute ahead of the time you set.
Ahhhh that's awesome lol I'm colorblind but I still managed to figure out the first one right away (while watching not racing) lol so cool though.
this is so good. love this map
OMG, Dapper used my pressure pad blueprint!!! Hope you liked it
Went from "what a cool track to ick math" so quick
I miss 1 week and suddenly it's all wicked lit tracks
Love the creativity. Cool track.
Neat! I wasn't able to find it on the workshop to play it seeing as I missed the lobby last night... Could you enlighten me?
love the cheese at the end 😉
Why was the math room brute forcing which one was correct. You had 3 correct answers that were wrong for no reason. Absolutely terrible design.
Particularly since it's supposed to be an escape room. Brute Force can _never_ be the correct answer in an escape room
21 door 2 then door 1
Dapper: How am I slower than last run
I think 1.40 is quicker that 2.40
dapper expecting people to figure out it's 16+5, but can't even see the difference between 2:30 and 1:30 xD
the first track nobody asked for cheese, and there was cheese hahaha
Cool video!
Idea: Make a track with confusing layouts!
Amazing track!
YOU ROCK DAPPER!
When all the options equal 21… dude I put down a 5 minute lap time because that wasn’t tested properly.
The answer is 21, door 2 on the left, door 1 on the right. You have to think outside the box
adding up to 21?
that's not math that's blackjack
Immediately my guess would be there is a booster somewhere and you need to hit it in the right direction. My first guess would have been directly in font of the start but you have to be driving toward the start
Dapper: how am I slower than my last time?
Old time 2 min 29 sec
Time he reset on 1min 32~ sec
Love your video's always gives me a smile ^^
Love maze concepts!!
almost didn’t hear dapper
i like the idea of this track, but 10-12 mins isnt enough. this would be better at 15-20 since theres a multi-choice section to figure out at the last half, but i understand you dont want to set 1 map to nearly double the standard amount of time
this was cool
Please show how you made the presure plates work.
Poor guy lmaooo
Dapper when are you going to do a RailRoads Online?
Man knows about trackmania?!
kAN:s right, the math part is really bad design.
its not. the hint was 21. door 2, then door 1.
so they are all the correct answer but only one is the correct correct answer??
The answer is 21, door 2 on the left, door 1 on the right. You have to think outside the box
To solve the hunger crisis in Africa it depends. There are several ways to do so. The most efficient way is through helping African countries respect property rights and weed out corruption. Those two factors will do 99% of the work. The other way is to create an international railway to distribute food. Logistics is a massive problem. But the train would need to be plural and refer cars. There is already enough food grown in America to feed the world and then some. That isn't counting on government enforced losses.
We all know the proper answer was 9+10
True all the options were wrong
I thought for sure the answer was gonna be 9 + 10
🧀
But how does it work?
Loved this track, the cheese at the end was epic 🤩
ESSCAPAAY
pfft everybody knows 9+10=21
This title sounds... let's just say... evil... and not just a little bit
What a bunch of loosers, just give them the answer befor the session, so we dont have to hear them crying, my god. Stay Mellow Ppl´s
10 minutes is far to short for a escape room track.
What is the name of the game
Hey, to be honest though, this isn't exactly the BEST escape room ive ever seen...
That shortcut was so cool!
It reminds me of North Korea lol
The second room was terrible
Dapper, the math part was just dumb
Ngl. It's really boring just watching you go in circles.
It's like we gotta figure out the fun from the recording.
Basically a podcast.
Can you make videos where we follow your friends trying to figure it out?
i subscriber can you plz use me in marble world next
The math section is badly designed as the one dude is accurately calling out
21 is door 2 then door 1
your friend's constant complaining is annoying
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I am completely with Dapper on this track. Great job! The guys are just being buttholes and forgot to put their fun pants on today.
The options all adding to 21 is stupid
The answer is 21, door 2 on the left, door 1 on the right. You have to think outside the box
So you didn't understand what I said. Got it.......
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