Honestly, this is probably the most brilliant of the Dapper "coded" tracks. It really IS simple, and people definitely did get it. It was even made easier by the two colors you needed to worry about being black and white that would stand out more. And the extra black and white spaces were really were needed to throw people off. I wish Yannic was there. He would have liked this. Maybe not at the start. But eventually anyway.
LOL, 8:44 "That's not a pattern.", I realized the pattern after only watching the video for about 30 seconds. A pattern isn't always sequential in nature, in this case it was a conditional pattern (Hit white go right, hit black go left).
Cool, I actually figured out the pattern before you revealed it, for once. I think it's because I remember your other invisible track, and how you used trees and rocks to indicate the turns there.
Sorry dapper, as a DM who loves puzzles like this, I know this pain. There is no floor puzzle you can make that people will all figure out and everyone who doesn't will only be mad. I got it before it was said and enjoyed it. Thank you dapper.
@@DraconicDuelist my buddy dm and I frequently look up puzzles for toddlers. I like trying to come up with puzzles and have gotten good at dropping hints, but they need to be used sparingly or with the right group.
@@graysonlorenz1441 "If 't be true thee feedeth me, I groweth, but if 't be true thee giveth me wat'r, I kicketh the bucket." Riddles for kids run through a Shakespear translator.
You can and it requires set up. Floor puzzles, like any good puzzle, will have a least one set up puzzle typically to show the concept. The 1st is overly simple to teach you the concept, the 2nd is to make sure you understand it, and the 3rd is without hand holding. What is happening in whatever you DM and in this video is you don't showcase the skill the player needs. So now EVERYTHING is a possible outcome. Matches, lack of matches, rotating shapes, spots without pattern. Since everything is possible and there is a large number of squares you've with almost completely certainty alienated people. You even highlight some of why you're having issues. You're looking for puzzles designed for Toddlers, they do not think like adults and puzzles are designed to be solved by their mind. It is actually why those "Are you smarter then an X Grader" tricks work. The questions are phrased and designed in a way to punish adult analysis but reward younger analysis.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 I do do a warm up like that thanks to GMTK. Some people are just bad at this kind of thing or hate puzzles and let the rest of the party do it, then get frustrated when they skipped the first two steps lol
I got it before you said it. They clearly don't understand what a pattern truly is. Even though you don't dig the whole Halloween aesthetic, you're still pretty cool to me. Keep up the amazing work with that bright mind of yours.
Fun fact: Dapper probably knows that by saying "but, what my friends don't know..." in the first 10 seconds of the video improves the audience retention by 20% & also makes his view counts higher!
7:00 I figured it out right away. Certain colors correspond to certain directions. Edit: you don't even need to remember the course just follow what it tells you to do and you can even snipe corners.
Kosmo has the worst attitude when it's not his track or video. You watch his vids and he's overly hyped, you watch kans or dappers and he's complaining majority of the time
I'm watching this immediately after watching Kan's wall track video and I keep expecting the carts to peel off the track and fall away towards the start.
At this point I think I understood the hidden clue of the track (3:46). I haven't watched the whole video yet but I think White Block means Turn Right and Black Block means Turn Left.
You should put an invisible wall inside the finish, just deep enough that you do finish, but then instead of flying through you just smack into the wall, just for fun.
I got the pattern after seeing other people turn for about 1/4 of the course. To me the pattern was obvious and I struggled to watch others not be able to see it. It's fascinating how brains are different.
I feel like when you're actually driving the course with no foreknowledge it is absolutely noticeable if you just keep track of what colors kill you if you go straight
Small cheese idea: have one of these puzzle tracks way in the air, but about a 30s freefall down from the track have a giant finish. Just protect against afk rolling off and finishing. If you make the track like 1min normally you can "mess up your last run" and probably drive off the edge with just above the required amount of time to free-fall for the cheese victory.
It was so obvious within about 5 turns watching. I watched where the first few were falling off, and the white right black left just stood out. I watched Dapper's next few runs and I was shouting at my phone when he was making the wrong turns. Really well done and I'm surprised it wasn't figured out almost immediately. This was much easier and in my opinion much better than some of the other invisible tracks. Future possible suggestion would be that grey reverses the pattern, so that left becomes right and vice versa. Also a "cheese" could be added where the track crosses itself so that if you recognize that you are crossing, you could turn and cut out a section. Placed further into a longer track like this, it would reward those who figure out what is going on but it wouldn't be immediately obvious. Not really a cheese as much as skill in patten recognition.
@7:22 is it left of black square and right on white squares? I'll come back once I know the answer Woo! I'm glad I figured that out! That's a sick idea
I don't know if you're going to get this but what if you made a mirror track where your friends would take one side which is longer and you can launch underneath them and build a shorter track
Literally within the first ten seconds of seeing the track i thought black and white corners, is it really that hard to figure out. To be fair I didn't get that black was left and white was right till he finnished for the first time.
I almost had it, thought it was every color with an R in it (green, orange, purple(?)) would be right, and colors with an L in it would be left. But sadly there's a bunch of colors on the route that don't work :P
8:35 bruh i literally figured out the trick in 10 seconds after he said there was a pattern*, dapper's friends just kinda suck at this oml his friends are literally just butthurt
I can understand their frustration while trying to drive and figure it out. It's certainly easier to sit here on UA-cam where I can rewind the moment I think I see something. But when Dapper flat-out tells them the pattern, and they try to refute that with "but there are other white and black squares"... Seriously, come on, that's just obnoxious. And I thought I'd gotten used to kAn's whining. I hope they apologize to you, Dapper.
Kind of feel like you shouldn't drive the cheese car on your own tracks when there's not a cheese available, maybe don't even say anything to your audience or your companions. See how long it takes him to figure it out. Then when you stop doing this don't tell anyone and go to a random selection of cheese/not cheese.
That's not a pattern, its a rule. A pattern is a repeating set that can be determined by a formula. 1 11 21 1211 111221 312211 13112221, that's a pattern. It's a difficult one to figure out, but when you know it you can recognize it anywhere. Black=left and white=right is a rule you need to know to beat the map. One that was never stated and would never have been figured out. I say that because people playing the track don't register the last square as a viable Color in the pattern because it's skipped when people cut corners.
Where are you getting this definition of a pattern? If I printed this map on a T-shirt, you would say 'that T-shirt has a pattern on it'. Just because some people didn't figure it out doesn't make it a bad map/puzzle.
@@JustinMcJustin Your point though? Nothing you said here discredited the OP's point. There are different types of patterns, the one in this case is a Tossed Checkerboard Pattern shirt. The problem with the map is the puzzle is solved not by recognizing a pattern in its Tossed design rather recognizing the rule of turn on certain colors without indication. If this was a puzzle you'd be able to solve it without seeing anyone drive on it or touch the tiles. You can not. There is no pattern because in this case it is a Rule. You turn a specific direction on specific colors. It is pure trial and error till you learn the Rule. It is bad by that alone. If it was something like Red Green Blue repeat this would be a pattern for solving this as you must go from Red -> Green -> Blue -> Red it means a pattern is the solution. The spaces between prevent Dapper's from being it. And remember this is by Dapper, someone who regularly uses Cheese. You can not trust any rule, any pattern, anything.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 As you observe there are different types of patterns. 2 examples: the pattern on the map; and the pattern of behaviour required to correctly follow the rule with the help of the pattern on the map. My only point was saying "that's not a pattern, it's a rule" was both pedantic and obviously false. Whether it makes for a good map or not? I've got no idea. But the people playing seemed to figure it out okay.
Honestly, this is probably the most brilliant of the Dapper "coded" tracks. It really IS simple, and people definitely did get it. It was even made easier by the two colors you needed to worry about being black and white that would stand out more. And the extra black and white spaces were really were needed to throw people off.
I wish Yannic was there. He would have liked this. Maybe not at the start. But eventually anyway.
LOL, 8:44 "That's not a pattern.", I realized the pattern after only watching the video for about 30 seconds.
A pattern isn't always sequential in nature, in this case it was a conditional pattern (Hit white go right, hit black go left).
dang u r smart
Cool, I actually figured out the pattern before you revealed it, for once. I think it's because I remember your other invisible track, and how you used trees and rocks to indicate the turns there.
Every turn is color coded....And by every turn I mean turning right and turning left.
Took me half the video but I got it
I managed in about 3 minutes of the video :D I am happy with myself xD
dapper, my guy this pattern was really simple, they had to be just giving you crap. keep up the creativity, your tracks are the best
Sad for Dapper that he had to go through that conversation with those two clowns that couldn't accept that it was a relatively simple pattern.
Sorry dapper, as a DM who loves puzzles like this, I know this pain. There is no floor puzzle you can make that people will all figure out and everyone who doesn't will only be mad. I got it before it was said and enjoyed it. Thank you dapper.
Don't know how many times I've read stories of DMs using literal grade-school puzzles that their players rage-quit over.
@@DraconicDuelist my buddy dm and I frequently look up puzzles for toddlers. I like trying to come up with puzzles and have gotten good at dropping hints, but they need to be used sparingly or with the right group.
@@graysonlorenz1441 "If 't be true thee feedeth me, I groweth, but if 't be true thee giveth me wat'r, I kicketh the bucket."
Riddles for kids run through a Shakespear translator.
You can and it requires set up.
Floor puzzles, like any good puzzle, will have a least one set up puzzle typically to show the concept. The 1st is overly simple to teach you the concept, the 2nd is to make sure you understand it, and the 3rd is without hand holding.
What is happening in whatever you DM and in this video is you don't showcase the skill the player needs. So now EVERYTHING is a possible outcome. Matches, lack of matches, rotating shapes, spots without pattern. Since everything is possible and there is a large number of squares you've with almost completely certainty alienated people.
You even highlight some of why you're having issues. You're looking for puzzles designed for Toddlers, they do not think like adults and puzzles are designed to be solved by their mind. It is actually why those "Are you smarter then an X Grader" tricks work.
The questions are phrased and designed in a way to punish adult analysis but reward younger analysis.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 I do do a warm up like that thanks to GMTK. Some people are just bad at this kind of thing or hate puzzles and let the rest of the party do it, then get frustrated when they skipped the first two steps lol
They were frustrated.. but that really is a good system. People could figure that out. It's good and I think it's cool. Keep it up!
I got it before you said it. They clearly don't understand what a pattern truly is. Even though you don't dig the whole Halloween aesthetic, you're still pretty cool to me. Keep up the amazing work with that bright mind of yours.
I immediately figured all the turns were on black and white tiles, I didnt realise they meant right and left until he revealed it.
Fun fact: Dapper probably knows that by saying "but, what my friends don't know..." in the first 10 seconds of the video improves the audience retention by 20% & also makes his view counts higher!
r u a wizard
@@darealkosmo
(ACTIVATE PANIC MODEE!!!)
Uhh, sir, maybe,
No, we refuse to answer
(what am I saying)
Sorry, I refuse to answer
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@@Blaster_Unity_UB omgeh issa wobot wizard!
This comment thread confuses me greatly.
@@alkestos
(sir, a wolf/ancestors of dogs)
Hi there! Gang member!
7:00 I figured it out right away. Certain colors correspond to certain directions.
Edit: you don't even need to remember the course just follow what it tells you to do and you can even snipe corners.
At the start it looks like genetic evolution AI learning to pathfinder haha
Your pattern was great, the past couple maps your friends don't seem to like using their brain :P
Kosmo has the worst attitude when it's not his track or video. You watch his vids and he's overly hyped, you watch kans or dappers and he's complaining majority of the time
I've learned to zone him out and whenever he gets too much I just skip a bit
yeah.. i noticed it few months ago.. and im honestly annoyed.. in his vids he sounds very friendly but now i cant unhear it
I'm watching this immediately after watching Kan's wall track video and I keep expecting the carts to peel off the track and fall away towards the start.
when you make an invisible track AND THEN WHAT?!?!?!
Then you fail miserably
@@craigwhite1202 bigfaxx
I immediately recognized the Undertale Floor Puzzle pattern.
At this point I think I understood the hidden clue of the track (3:46). I haven't watched the whole video yet but I think White Block means Turn Right and Black Block means Turn Left.
I figured it out like a minute in, im suprised how easy it was just white(right) and blacks(left) equals a turn
Track idea. PLINKO, where skill means nothing, and luck wins first place.
Thanks for the shows Dapper.
Dapper in a Joker voice: "It doesn't always have to be about the cheese kAN."
4:33 Good guy Dapper, doing the Lord's work.
You should put an invisible wall inside the finish, just deep enough that you do finish, but then instead of flying through you just smack into the wall, just for fun.
30 seconds in and I start to see the pattern of right turn white and left turn on black.😄
I got the pattern after seeing other people turn for about 1/4 of the course. To me the pattern was obvious and I struggled to watch others not be able to see it. It's fascinating how brains are different.
I feel like when you're actually driving the course with no foreknowledge it is absolutely noticeable if you just keep track of what colors kill you if you go straight
I figured out the track 5:16 I noticed you turn at the white/black ones
Small cheese idea: have one of these puzzle tracks way in the air, but about a 30s freefall down from the track have a giant finish. Just protect against afk rolling off and finishing. If you make the track like 1min normally you can "mess up your last run" and probably drive off the edge with just above the required amount of time to free-fall for the cheese victory.
Watching dapper driving it makes it easier to figure out the pattern than driving it. Great track idea, maybe there was a cheese?
It's so much easier to solve a puzzle when you have no stakes riding on you solving it.
Just a couple minutes into the vid and I figured out it's left on black and right on white. I wonder how long it takes them to see it :D
Black and white things was quite clever
It was so obvious within about 5 turns watching. I watched where the first few were falling off, and the white right black left just stood out. I watched Dapper's next few runs and I was shouting at my phone when he was making the wrong turns. Really well done and I'm surprised it wasn't figured out almost immediately. This was much easier and in my opinion much better than some of the other invisible tracks.
Future possible suggestion would be that grey reverses the pattern, so that left becomes right and vice versa. Also a "cheese" could be added where the track crosses itself so that if you recognize that you are crossing, you could turn and cut out a section. Placed further into a longer track like this, it would reward those who figure out what is going on but it wouldn't be immediately obvious. Not really a cheese as much as skill in patten recognition.
is the code white = right, black = left? I'm at 1:00 when I found this out ( first watch)
@@yazunhc no I did not sorry for getting your hopes up
@@yazunhc no I did not so ply stop arging
@@yazunhc wow can you just drop this argument? and does it mater if I did or not?
@@yazunhc just stop ply
your acting like a little kid on the internet so ply stop you don't have to be right all the time and your not
I love that no can tell white is right and black is left, I immediately saw this
I downloaded and worked out this track before watching, hearing them say it's impossible to work out is hilarious 😂
Not so bad. Black is left, white is right
idk how they didn't get that. It was blatantly obvious just watching the first 3 turns lmao
I got the pattern when there was 5:36 minutes left (by the video), white = rigth, black = left
I figured out the pattern instantly.
Literally as soon as I looked for the pattern I found it instantly....
This track is the new Dapper NFT and it's gonna be worth one thousand dollars someday.
Left turns on black, green straight, yellow turncoming , right white
Im so happy i cracked the code before anyone said anything in the video
6:22 the black and white tiles. 🤔 black left white right.
@7:22 is it left of black square and right on white squares?
I'll come back once I know the answer
Woo! I'm glad I figured that out! That's a sick idea
5:30, I got it, White = right, Black = Left.
Lol dapper making Fall guys in Zeepkist
I did figure it out before dapper said it in the video, so people definitely can get it.
Thanks for making me feel smarter than your friends.
I don't know if you're going to get this but what if you made a mirror track where your friends would take one side which is longer and you can launch underneath them and build a shorter track
It was at the 7-minute mark that I figured out the pattern. Genius.
Once Dapper said there was a pattern, I immediately saw it. I dunno what Kan and Kosmo are complaining about
In dappers defence I figured it out
The pattern was so simple. Turn left on black and turn right on white.
Took me about 30 seconds to figure out white = right black = left.
Literally within the first ten seconds of seeing the track i thought black and white corners, is it really that hard to figure out. To be fair I didn't get that black was left and white was right till he finnished for the first time.
3 minutes in and I found the code. It’s simple but I still feel smart. Now could I figure it out while racing is a while other thing 😂
Oh the black or white is a turn, actually a simple code
Edit: said before he said it btw
I almost had it, thought it was every color with an R in it (green, orange, purple(?)) would be right, and colors with an L in it would be left. But sadly there's a bunch of colors on the route that don't work :P
white - right, black - left
good map dapper
I can imagine tiles colors changing and this becoming impossible unless you know the rule.
make cheeses inside more cheese, so if someone finds it they may not find the next one and then just keep going deeper. call it inception.
Man I feel bad for Dapper. I heard him get more and more upset as time went on because his friends just bullied him. It was a really good idea!
Me: Figures out that all the turns are on white and black
Dapper: black is turn left and white is turn right
Me: I GOT IT RIGHT!!!
I still haven’t finished the video and i think i know the help you use : you turn right to white and left to black
Yeeeessss !!!!! 😆
I got it RIGHT 😂
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In not sure but i figured it out watching the video and the first finisher at around minute 3
Dapper you gotta turn up the gain on your mic
I immediately figured out that you turn left on black and right on white. Am I right. Wrote this at 1:54
Is bro using the UA-cam survey music
Wait maybe he just did the patter fast
You should put the aerial view on a shirt and sell it.😂
I figured it out.
It’s kinda like tip-toe from fall guys
I figured it out in like 1 minute
I cracked the pattern 5min in the vid
Moiso calm down
Should do a squid games theme
Too bad there weren't dead end branches.
I saw the pattern very early on
White RIGHT Black LEFT....
Lol 4:48
i figured it out! 🙂
Yeet
is no one going to comment on how that guy managed to 1 shot, first try, somehow?
was searching for this command. kinda sus lmao
Erko didn't first try it, at 0:42 Erko is in the red cart that goes into the intangible purple tile.
I figured it out just 3:30 in :0
8:35 bruh i literally figured out the trick in 10 seconds after he said there was a pattern*, dapper's friends just kinda suck at this
oml his friends are literally just butthurt
🧀
I can understand their frustration while trying to drive and figure it out. It's certainly easier to sit here on UA-cam where I can rewind the moment I think I see something. But when Dapper flat-out tells them the pattern, and they try to refute that with "but there are other white and black squares"... Seriously, come on, that's just obnoxious. And I thought I'd gotten used to kAn's whining.
I hope they apologize to you, Dapper.
Did Erko cheat? He seemed to know exactly how to get to the finish first run.
I mean there was a pattern, he probably figured it out immediately
I got the code in about 5 seconds lol
The code is too easy figured it out almost instantly
Kind of feel like you shouldn't drive the cheese car on your own tracks when there's not a cheese available, maybe don't even say anything to your audience or your companions. See how long it takes him to figure it out. Then when you stop doing this don't tell anyone and go to a random selection of cheese/not cheese.
Erko cheated he did it in two trys
Lame. The track is not actually invisible. Build a track using invisible blocks.
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That's not a pattern, its a rule.
A pattern is a repeating set that can be determined by a formula. 1 11 21 1211 111221 312211 13112221, that's a pattern. It's a difficult one to figure out, but when you know it you can recognize it anywhere.
Black=left and white=right is a rule you need to know to beat the map. One that was never stated and would never have been figured out.
I say that because people playing the track don't register the last square as a viable Color in the pattern because it's skipped when people cut corners.
"Would never have been figured out"
When multiple people figured it out in the video...
Where are you getting this definition of a pattern?
If I printed this map on a T-shirt, you would say 'that T-shirt has a pattern on it'.
Just because some people didn't figure it out doesn't make it a bad map/puzzle.
@@JustinMcJustin Your point though? Nothing you said here discredited the OP's point.
There are different types of patterns, the one in this case is a Tossed Checkerboard Pattern shirt. The problem with the map is the puzzle is solved not by recognizing a pattern in its Tossed design rather recognizing the rule of turn on certain colors without indication.
If this was a puzzle you'd be able to solve it without seeing anyone drive on it or touch the tiles. You can not. There is no pattern because in this case it is a Rule. You turn a specific direction on specific colors. It is pure trial and error till you learn the Rule. It is bad by that alone. If it was something like Red Green Blue repeat this would be a pattern for solving this as you must go from Red -> Green -> Blue -> Red it means a pattern is the solution. The spaces between prevent Dapper's from being it.
And remember this is by Dapper, someone who regularly uses Cheese. You can not trust any rule, any pattern, anything.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 As you observe there are different types of patterns.
2 examples: the pattern on the map; and the pattern of behaviour required to correctly follow the rule with the help of the pattern on the map.
My only point was saying "that's not a pattern, it's a rule" was both pedantic and obviously false.
Whether it makes for a good map or not? I've got no idea. But the people playing seemed to figure it out okay.
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