A thing about parry and counter abilities in general, as a player with not Amazing reflexes, you can get very good parries by anticipating a spell after most have been used, or predict a player would use a certain spell in a certain situation, and as its said in the video, find the opponents bias
at 3:45 fiora did not get stunned, she used q when jax e ended and managed to avoid the stun just barely, it looks like she had stun icon above her but it was actually a minion getting stunned. You can also see that this is true because she did aa e reset while that icon was present. (I was confused by this because at first I thought she was attacking while stunned :D) This player obviously knows these matchups, jax vs fiora is super common so it is easy to learn the full time on his e but can be difficult to predict if he ends early.
Fiora vital works in a way that they always appear opposite of where they were like a dancing pattern for instance during 2:26 play Ryze had a vital to right at first this makes it so the next one will be either down or left side so by flashing to proc vital here not only they get passive ms + dmg but also make sure that the next vital will be most likely upside. so the pattern is always < ^ / v > / < ^ / v > and so on this is also why people that are aware of this get away from the Fiora to reset the vital position to the opposite side during laning phase.
I absolutely hate playing against people that know how to outspace, it's by far one of the most useful abilities you can master to win the early game. Fiora is already a broken champion on it's own but imagine being one of the very best with her, it's borderline toxic having to deal with it. Also, my favorite moment of the video is 10:30. No matter which server and no matter who is playing, always good to see a Vayne top getting destroyed.
Every time I see a high end Fiora video I think the same thing; totally respect the playtime and mastery that these players put in, they are amazing and they really deserve praise But fuck that champ is not balanced.
yeah I really gotta give it to them. Though the champ is still unbalanced, they put on the full display of how much more broken they can really be when mastered.
Hello I have a question, I don’t really know when I have to take grasp and when I have to take conqueror, not only about the match up but vs the ennemy team comp ?
A bit late. (8 months late XD) Take it for the matchup. Fiora by nature wants to 1v1 most of the time. Grasp is better when you have a weaker all-in, so you can play off Grasp+Q poke. (This is the safer option, since its much easier for newer Fiora players to all-in after getting the HP advantage via poke. This also lets you go into Demolish a lot easier.) Conqueror is better when you have as good as/stronger all-in. (Higher Risk to Reward ratio. Conqueror will basically allow you to rush Defensive items after winning your early fights without losing too much damage, which leads into a bigger snowball. This also means you need to commit harder to all-ins as compared to grasp.)
Actual in Chinese sever he only conquer but ,in Korean he major grasp for stability,he says if u like once fight decide dead is conquer such as Riven,Atrox,if u need reptitious fight to consume rival's blood is grasp.
Basically this champ almost have no bad matchups. I believe your counter is being a weaksided, whenever your team loses other side of the map. Also, it's not that easy to secure a kill as a fiora, so most fiora players are playing with ignite to get early kills and scale faster. Which is not safe because you can't safe exp in case being ganked and dead.
@@viktorzebra1046 XD you have never played fiora then,. every ranged champ beats fiora if they have 2 hands, sett daruis olaf jax ww teemo jayce kennen, are all awful matchups pre 6 and can all run down you early if you dont respect them
@@tristanoce5233 playable anyway. U outscale most of them, and also most of them have to play aggressive to use their early prio over fiora. Playing agressive means that ur getting a prio top but on the other hand ure in danger if you weakside.
10:30 prediction: Is playing a champ with both a cripple and slow on the same ability. Probably just mashes buttons and right clicks on her. Vayne E's, Fiora retreats, Vayne chases like a moron, Fiora turns and oneshots. Edit: Yep. I don't care who you are, Vayne top is a terrible pick unless you're against like, Cho or Sion, and even then they can oneshot you. Stop picking it, it's not good. Pick like, Zeri or Akshan instead.
Is there a champ that beats a good fiora in lane? seriously. Heal. AA speed reduction. INVUNERABILITY. true dmg. dash. slow. Scales hard, is good early game with constant poke. Like???
Malphite, Kennen, Jayce, rumble, a good Jax is threatening, Akali… or anybody who just respects the fact that she’s a 1v1 god and quietly farms until teamfighting phase
i hope pro players take example and stop going braindead grasp-divine on every single matchup... in some matchups gore-conq is better. for example at worlds fiora had like 0% winrate vs aatrox because they all went wrong built and tried to go grasp-divine into him, but grasp-divine is good only vs tanks and ranged, for the rest just go conq-gore
This is what happens when the champ has optimal rune just for her kit , a highly mobile champ + high counter potential w + tower destroyer e and a 100% health base true dommage r ultimate , literally no counterplay if played well
Fiora has plenty of counterplay even if she's played perfectly. She has champion pick counters, itemization counters, as well as simple gameplay counters.
@@xTypho A counter is not an auto-win. If a player gaps the other by a significant amount in skill then they will still win. Doesn't erase the majority of times where Gragas and Malphite players shit on him if you actually watch the stream. But I guess you think if a bronze player has the counterpick then they will win against even a challenger player, LMAO.
can we get Secrets and Tips for Yi? there is that #1 Yi from EUW but also Cowsep (who still i believe is the best yi since he with ease gets challenger on each server no matter what ping he has etc he goes Korea NA OCE EUW Eune Brazil everywhere just to get challenger cause he has accounts in every server)
cowsep isnt even close to one of the best Yis, he only gets chall in dogshit servers making bait clickbait content and is GM on a major server at best.
I can do that for you: W when damage Q when skillshot R before right clicking E before right clicking I hope I explained it simple enough for someone who needs Yi guides to understand.
Short: You need to know how to jungle at first. Its much more important then YI skill Yi: W to reset Pauto(double strike stil goes through,and you already make another auto) Save Q to gapclose or dodge smg/stun,try not to start fights with Q If possible,before fight,charge up Pauto with W Use W Pauto reset even when clearing the jungle In early game use E right before Pauto,so you get 1-2 ore procks of true dmg And dont forget to use W in fights,cuz now it has really low CD
Those players are actually good, tho it's hard to say if they are THAT good, don't take it wrong, I'm not an hater, on the contrary, I like those videos, but seeing them playing, they're not doing anything really special, the enemies just have no hand and 0 idea on how LoL works, it's hard to believe that this is a high rank. Example: 12:20 they think is a good idea to 2v1 a Fiora without anti-heals? I hardly see those misstakes at plat level from EUW Another example is at the start of the video, where Fiora fight Camille, why tf Camille is ingaging fiora with more than 50% hp while having less than 10%???? How is that challenger Is Jiking a good player? Well yes, it's not easy what he is doing, but aswell the enemy is not playing properly, it's like seeing a smurf playing, I just wonder that, how they can find so many brainless players at such "high" rank. Good video tho, keep it up, good entrateinment
I don't really get the first clip. He had more HP than Malphite, couldn't prevent him from farming the wave AND fed him 400 gold. The first play wasn't good at all for him, he just reset to base with Malphite and handed him an extra 100g for the troubles. There was no advantage in this play for him at all.
I love seeing perfect spacing, it's so satisfying
Oh bard god
@@LoLDobby dobby god
@@LoLDobbybard video coming soon??
Omg Its my idol
And we love seeing you
This guy truly impressed me, he seems way above some of the other players you've brought before, GG!
Luck mostly
@@Haunuva luck can't be challenger in kr server and solo against Zeus and get kills
Korea challenger
A thing about parry and counter abilities in general, as a player with not Amazing reflexes, you can get very good parries by anticipating a spell after most have been used, or predict a player would use a certain spell in a certain situation, and as its said in the video, find the opponents bias
at 3:45 fiora did not get stunned, she used q when jax e ended and managed to avoid the stun just barely, it looks like she had stun icon above her but it was actually a minion getting stunned. You can also see that this is true because she did aa e reset while that icon was present. (I was confused by this because at first I thought she was attacking while stunned :D)
This player obviously knows these matchups, jax vs fiora is super common so it is easy to learn the full time on his e but can be difficult to predict if he ends early.
this guy is in whole another level. very well plays from each game. lot of things to learn.
Fiora vital works in a way that they always appear opposite of where they were like a dancing pattern for instance during 2:26 play Ryze had a vital to right at first this makes it so the next one will be either down or left side so by flashing to proc vital here not only they get passive ms + dmg but also make sure that the next vital will be most likely upside.
so the pattern is always < ^ / v > / < ^ / v > and so on this is also why people that are aware of this get away from the Fiora to reset the vital position to the opposite side during laning phase.
9:22 I miss old hydra, pls riot give it back
its back :D
glad to see dobby talking about the champ take i ban every single game as a former ornn main xD good vid as always
surviving that nunu gank was nutty
I absolutely hate playing against people that know how to outspace, it's by far one of the most useful abilities you can master to win the early game. Fiora is already a broken champion on it's own but imagine being one of the very best with her, it's borderline toxic having to deal with it.
Also, my favorite moment of the video is 10:30. No matter which server and no matter who is playing, always good to see a Vayne top getting destroyed.
The leesin q at 5:05 was pretty sick too
He didn't even mentioned it. Probably just an average lee sin in KR
@@ericjorgearnezinochea9679nah that’s Art Lee in his most previous video he’s an insane Lee in KR
Fun fact, jj in jjking is actually a abbreviation for the fiora chinese name
It was funny how at the beginning he was just gonna take the portal and be done. Then Renekton signed his own death warrant.
Every time I see a high end Fiora video I think the same thing; totally respect the playtime and mastery that these players put in, they are amazing and they really deserve praise
But fuck that champ is not balanced.
yeah I really gotta give it to them. Though the champ is still unbalanced, they put on the full display of how much more broken they can really be when mastered.
I prefer this over ksante
always comming thru with the best league content
nice video. I just wish the music is a little louder like your older videos
I turned it down because I thought it was noisy, but should I turn it up?
@@LoLDobby I'm not sure what others like, but I like it louder. Maybe try doing a poll?
as someone trying to master fiora this was very informative thank you
as a 800k mastery fio. this is the best ive ever seen. truly a delight to watch.
刚哥出息了
I have a question , at 8.49 he have 2 point in R and 4 in W, is it something he is doing often or miss click ?
miss click
miss click
miss click
Miss click
Ms. Click
Hello I have a question, I don’t really know when I have to take grasp and when I have to take conqueror, not only about the match up but vs the ennemy team comp ?
A bit late. (8 months late XD)
Take it for the matchup.
Fiora by nature wants to 1v1 most of the time.
Grasp is better when you have a weaker all-in, so you can play off Grasp+Q poke. (This is the safer option, since its much easier for newer Fiora players to all-in after getting the HP advantage via poke. This also lets you go into Demolish a lot easier.)
Conqueror is better when you have as good as/stronger all-in. (Higher Risk to Reward ratio. Conqueror will basically allow you to rush Defensive items after winning your early fights without losing too much damage, which leads into a bigger snowball. This also means you need to commit harder to all-ins as compared to grasp.)
Doublelift recommended your channel :D
It's such an honor..!
Hey Dobby can you make an azir video after the recent changes that incentivize W max? :))
I'm thinking about it, too :)
im not sure if this was explained but when does he go conq and when does he go grasp?
Jjking always go grasp i think
While 14fiora always go conq
Actual in Chinese sever he only conquer but ,in Korean he major grasp for stability,he says if u like once fight decide dead is conquer such as Riven,Atrox,if u need reptitious fight to consume rival's blood is grasp.
COUNTER POPPY W WITH Q-W
WTF i'm losing my mind over this guy
i didn't even know that worked
At 2:50 fiora didnt use E flash, it was just AA Flash into E
right QAflashE1E2 8 Conqueror
Good video. But I liked seeing Runes at the start more
Thank you for your opinion !
Dobby can we get a bot focus vid that dominates on early game how to win just like top
Love the vids as usual that fiora main is disgustingly good
I don't play Fiora so I'm watching this to learn to counter her (also known as banning)
3:18 what happened to "RIIIIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTERSTRIKE"?
FINALLY A VIDEO ON MY GOATTTTTTTTT
Title : The Secrets of jjking, Super Server's Fiora God
First clip : him getting outplayed
it's him. Himmothy! Himmy neutron! freaking HIMMEY JOHN!
can you do a video on KAJ fiora?
What server?
the new ad katarina is extremly absurd, i saw someone in practice tool made her ult deal like 20k damage or something
i hope dobby see this comment since im a big fan of you. CAN YOU MAKE A VIDEO LIKE THIS ABOUT RIVEN BY MR AZHY
Let's take a look :)
@@LoLDobby luv u😗
great one honestly !
It's funny that some of them don't even have heal reduction playing against Fiora.
where can i watch this guy?
China 斗鱼
when does he go grasp and when does he go conq?
i also wanna know this
@@plasmahvh grasp always is ok. mainly go grasp into tanks and conq into bruisers if ur a onetrick
grasp is good for tanker or long distance champ
Finally a jjking video!
playing against a good fiora is so fucking frustrating
reworked jax
Dont forget the body block also in the earlier clips
Could you crank up music a little for the montage part?
Good idea
Do another samira video. so much has changed with her since the last one
Counter: overconfidence from winning 1v1s against your academy sub
08:46 "Dovahkiin" ??????
amaizing, ty!
no counter?
Basically this champ almost have no bad matchups. I believe your counter is being a weaksided, whenever your team loses other side of the map. Also, it's not that easy to secure a kill as a fiora, so most fiora players are playing with ignite to get early kills and scale faster. Which is not safe because you can't safe exp in case being ganked and dead.
Poppy, warwick
Some ranged champion are hard for fiora too, like kennen
@@viktorzebra1046 XD you have never played fiora then,. every ranged champ beats fiora if they have 2 hands, sett daruis olaf jax ww teemo jayce kennen, are all awful matchups pre 6 and can all run down you early if you dont respect them
@@tristanoce5233 playable anyway. U outscale most of them, and also most of them have to play aggressive to use their early prio over fiora. Playing agressive means that ur getting a prio top but on the other hand ure in danger if you weakside.
Can you make 1 on riven?
This guy is like dzukill but with fiora
yes finally a fiora vid
Jjking vs 14 who's better?
jjking
@@xiazhuzhu9014 14fiora is known to be better lol
@@xiazhuzhu9014 He's not.
Jjking has better mechanics but 14 is a much better player overall.
Jjking look for more limit testing and outplays, 14 has less aggressive play style but generally higher LP in the previous seasons.
I was under the impression his name was LangD
What is a super server?
It is a server where the best people in China are gathered.
jjking plays well while his stream is just like tyler1
10:30 prediction: Is playing a champ with both a cripple and slow on the same ability. Probably just mashes buttons and right clicks on her. Vayne E's, Fiora retreats, Vayne chases like a moron, Fiora turns and oneshots.
Edit: Yep. I don't care who you are, Vayne top is a terrible pick unless you're against like, Cho or Sion, and even then they can oneshot you. Stop picking it, it's not good. Pick like, Zeri or Akshan instead.
Is there a champ that beats a good fiora in lane? seriously. Heal. AA speed reduction. INVUNERABILITY. true dmg. dash. slow. Scales hard, is good early game with constant poke. Like???
Jayce
Malphite, Kennen, Jayce, rumble, a good Jax is threatening, Akali… or anybody who just respects the fact that she’s a 1v1 god and quietly farms until teamfighting phase
Can you do a riven player
That Riven skin doesn't even look like Riven. Rito come on.
man is insane!
RIIIIIIIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTERSTRIKE
cold bro
0 MS latency what a dream
I absolutely love you videos, but I was wondering if you will do analysis on MSI games. For example, LCK vs LPL lane matchups and such.
I want to make it too, but I wonder if Riot will give me permission
Why everyone goes to Korea?
i hope pro players take example and stop going braindead grasp-divine on every single matchup... in some matchups gore-conq is better. for example at worlds fiora had like 0% winrate vs aatrox because they all went wrong built and tried to go grasp-divine into him, but grasp-divine is good only vs tanks and ranged, for the rest just go conq-gore
Theoretically, nobody beats fiora 1v1. But again it's too mechanically hard to actually perform that good
Voice reveal when?
bruh that beifeng fight was just sad
I can play almost at this level, but im still super low rank because i dont understand macro lol
"let's wrap with a montage"
huh? wasn't that a montage already? I had to rewatch the video to read cause i kept getting distracted from the gameplay.
gang god！！
JJking and 14Fiora are Fiora gods
14操作没有刚哥好，但是更会运营，刚子有时太刚太飘太耍
14 is the best I think
Oy, I hate a strong fiora player but you can't deny when someone knows their champion well.
they play a different game because of the vitals. (Best pick vs fiora is karma 🤫)
刚god！
This is what happens when the champ has optimal rune just for her kit , a highly mobile champ + high counter potential w + tower destroyer e and a 100% health base true dommage r ultimate , literally no counterplay if played well
Fiora has plenty of counterplay even if she's played perfectly. She has champion pick counters, itemization counters, as well as simple gameplay counters.
@@shinji136 What are these "Fiora counters" you speak of?
@@VladDascaliuc Malphite, Gragas, Gangplank, Akali, Kayle, Quinn, Vladimir, Kennen, Poppy, Bramble Vest, wall-hugging, hard engage and wave-clear. There's plenty of them.
@@shinji136 we just witnessed in the video him shitting on malphite n gragas as fiora xd
@@xTypho A counter is not an auto-win. If a player gaps the other by a significant amount in skill then they will still win. Doesn't erase the majority of times where Gragas and Malphite players shit on him if you actually watch the stream.
But I guess you think if a bronze player has the counterpick then they will win against even a challenger player, LMAO.
He is just so famous on slack off in game lol
6:40 they are always toxic 100% of the times lmao
he did biefeng dirty
Adam Darius stomp him lol.
Counters: none.
toxic emotes and taunt
JaJiKing
is he playing in bronce? That junglers dives gifting kills... strange
恶魔波刚
i am blind or i see 0 ms 😵
person is not connected to the internet just straight into the servers
Is recorded after the game, thats not the true ms, he's watching a video of the game.
Dobby, have you heard of a player called scrubnoob? He is on the korea server at the moment doing quite well. He is a famous rengar main.
That spacing and timing is so BS it feels like these players are being played by perfect AI's
can we get Secrets and Tips for Yi? there is that #1 Yi from EUW but also Cowsep (who still i believe is the best yi since he with ease gets challenger on each server no matter what ping he has etc he goes Korea NA OCE EUW Eune Brazil everywhere just to get challenger cause he has accounts in every server)
cowsep isnt even close to one of the best Yis, he only gets chall in dogshit servers making bait clickbait content and is GM on a major server at best.
Press Q
I can do that for you:
W when damage
Q when skillshot
R before right clicking
E before right clicking
I hope I explained it simple enough for someone who needs Yi guides to understand.
Short:
You need to know how to jungle at first. Its much more important then YI skill
Yi:
W to reset Pauto(double strike stil goes through,and you already make another auto)
Save Q to gapclose or dodge smg/stun,try not to start fights with Q
If possible,before fight,charge up Pauto with W
Use W Pauto reset even when clearing the jungle
In early game use E right before Pauto,so you get 1-2 ore procks of true dmg
And dont forget to use W in fights,cuz now it has really low CD
@@SarosEreshkigal xd nah i am yi main
and i dont press Q instantly
刚哥 尿检！
i get why im iron 1
Fiora so broken have the time he doesnt even parry right or q the vital and still wins
It's either you own at Fiora or you suck at her
Those players are actually good, tho it's hard to say if they are THAT good, don't take it wrong, I'm not an hater, on the contrary, I like those videos, but seeing them playing, they're not doing anything really special, the enemies just have no hand and 0 idea on how LoL works, it's hard to believe that this is a high rank.
Example: 12:20 they think is a good idea to 2v1 a Fiora without anti-heals? I hardly see those misstakes at plat level from EUW
Another example is at the start of the video, where Fiora fight Camille, why tf Camille is ingaging fiora with more than 50% hp while having less than 10%???? How is that challenger
Is Jiking a good player? Well yes, it's not easy what he is doing, but aswell the enemy is not playing properly, it's like seeing a smurf playing, I just wonder that, how they can find so many brainless players at such "high" rank. Good video tho, keep it up, good entrateinment
20xx fiora
I don't really get the first clip.
He had more HP than Malphite, couldn't prevent him from farming the wave AND fed him 400 gold. The first play wasn't good at all for him, he just reset to base with Malphite and handed him an extra 100g for the troubles. There was no advantage in this play for him at all.
Jax being a brain dead champ against Fiora that she has to use flash even though she proc her full últ 😅
尴尬的!