COD WWII Gun Goofs: REDUX
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2023
- A Part II is being considered.
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"A Brotherhood of Heroes" by Wilbert Roget II
"Welcome to the Bloody First" By Wilbert Roget II
"No Mission Too Difficult" By Wilbert Roget II
"No Sacrifice Too Great" by Wilbert Roget II
"The Shadow Under the Mountain" By Wilbert Roget II
"Untoten Requiem" by Wilbert Roget II
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Poor MG-42 and PPSH they did it very dirty in this game
At the very least Vanguard redeemed both of those guns in particular, so there's that.
Well, in the campaign at least, the MG42 almost fires at the same RPM as in real life
Gotta love that STG44 reload that has been in use since cod4
Breda Modello 30
"Incorrectly depicted as a working firearm"
Ironically there's an easter egg in the zombies mode on the base game map for a free ppsh, but both its fire rate and mag size are more accurate
This same easter egg is also a reference to the ppsh from waw as when this special ppsh is upgraded its called The Reaper
I like how you point the mistakes, not compared to M4sked, munancho etc. that only the existence of the gun is already a mistake
i dont think m4sked does model innacuracies, only how innacurate the weapon is heing handled
@@FED0RA do innacuracy too
Eh Not for M4sked he's also smart but not for munancho himself
How can you lack SO MUCH gun knowledge as a cod dev... absolutely insane
blame the higher ups / activision the devs are just being told what to do
when the world needed him the most, he came back
Trigger discipline wasn't taught to soldiers in the world wear but we can't tell if they just learned it themselves tbh.
Good point
Actually started coughing from laughing at the first issue with the Model 20 lmao
I missed this series! I quite enjoyed this and Gun Aces. Glad it’s back.
4:06 The part where it's missing the bipod is still excusable, since you could actually see somephotos of WWII american soldiers and marines holding the weapon without it's bipod and carry handle. The reason they kept it off is because they found it very unwieldy to carry around, and stripping it off the bipod and carry handle made it lighter and less awkward to carry. But idk this is just what I've heard a long time ago.
The bipod was actually use in ww2 not carry handle
The handle only got isuess in post war
If at 3:48 it really is a M2 Carbine, that weapon does have an automatic bolt hold mechanism, but it closes itself after removing the magazine.
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam has depicted this correctly.
Doesn't it only hold itself open if you have the extended magazine? The 20-rnd magazines don't hold it open.
@@yesanameirequested1682 Haven't checked, the one though on RS:2 Vietnam does have an extended magazine, so what you've said could be correct.
@@Hopy the only way to check it is on the m1a1 carbine, since that uses 20-rnd magazines
@@yesanameirequested1682 Thing is, the M1A1 Carbine doesn't have this feature at all, only the M2.
Edit: I have found out that in general the 30 round magazines have this feature, so even the M1A1 Carbine has it technically.
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I find it dumb when games make certain guns bad for "balancing reasons." Fuck that, let me fire a Stinger at 1200 rounds a godamn minute
The easiest way to balance weapons with a high rate of fire is by making the recoil more harder to control, or do what Battlefield V did and make the bipod a necessity for long range potential.
Don't know a lot about guns, but I know when a gun has something wrong
I'm a bit late but here's "some" additions
1:05 that rate of fire is way too slow for a full auto Mauser
2:05 even if you're a pro gunslinger there is no way to cock the hammer on a Reichsrevolver that fast due to the ergonomics, especially not one-handed (see C&Rsenal vid on the gun)
2:07 the casings would not extract that easily, there was a wooden stick required to punch them out after firing.
Also that rear sight on the Reichsrevolver is waaay too wide, the thing has one of the worst sights imaginable irl.
3:00 pushing the bolt into battery is correct, the bolt is not supposed to move forward on its own, this can be caused by worn clips (see pinned comment on "Garand thumb was a big deal, guys" short by Tenacious Trilobite)
3:46 the bolt hold open would be correct for the 30rnd mags, but the bolt would slam forward when you remove the mag (ofc those are the 15rnd mags so you're right)
4:08 missing the bipod isn't necessarily wrong, as some soldiers ditched it.
4:49 did you have to use that skin, I feel pain
7:39 on the sten gun the mag holding issue is debatable, the contrary can be true depending on the gun (see "STEN - The Weapon of WW2 Resistance" by InRangeTV)
8:21 Oh no, now we're getting to my field, there's so much wrong with the model 2 (not Type 2 btw, Type 2 implies adoption in 1942, when the gun is from the 30s and was never adopted). I'll just copy the list of issues from one of my older messages
-Fictional charging handle on the right
-Fictional bolt travel
-Sling swivels are wrong (funny that the front sling point on their model is the IRL charging handle)
-Fictional ejection cover
-Fictional cut in the stock on the right for the fictional ejection cover
-Rear sight is wrong
-Reload animation doesn't use the mag release even tho they modeled it
-The entire barrel shroud that should travel back during recoil doesn't move
-The barrel section you would see if the shroud moved isn't modeled
-The mag release is modeled wrong
-The section right below the muzzle is modeled wrong
9:16 I've spent a lot of time with that model trying to fix it for a personal project.. anyways
-the drum is modeled completely wrong, the gun feeds from 15rnd circular feed strips that are inserted on the right side
-the rear sight is modeled wrong
-the gun should be short recoil operated (meaning the barrel should recoil back)
You didn't mention the Type 100, but that gun also has a bunch of wrong details
-Rear sight is wrong (cut open instead of closed)
-There's a mesh hole in the forward sling swivel
-The magwell mesh doesn't go into the "tube" instead there's just a solid wall
-The chamber isn't modeled correctly
-Mag release isn't modeled correctly
-Their 8mm bullets have the wrong dimensions
-The barrel should have cooling fins (inside the shroud ofc)
-Bayonet lug bar has weird overhang at the rear
-Bayonet lug is too big
-You can see part of the stock mesh through the ejection port
-The bolt is modeled wrong
11:47 lol
13:27 there's a Gewehr 24(t) with trench mag, as for Kar98k I've seen pictures, but those could very well be post-war modifications (i.e bubba).
Also the trench mag wasn't easily detachable
14:33 holds 5 rounds in a 4 round magazine.
15:21 fun fact about that drum, they messed up with the animation and some of the drum mesh remains on the gun during reloading (slow down the reload to see it)
15:44 not every rifle grenade, there are some that work with live ammo (French VB/Japanese Type 100), but you're correct this one would blow up in your face.
16:18 Oh you have no idea, there's a joke about this game that goes "Every time I look at it I find something new and awful" this video could be hours long tbh alone from the stuff you can check on its imfdb article.
If you read this entire too long message, thank you :)
This is awesome, you gotta do more of this! I like the occasional addition of trivia.
I was under the impression that the B.A.R was not issued with a bipod during the war except for a few instances.
The bit about the Breda Modello 30's error being that it actually functions had me chuckling for a solid minute.
panzershreck's rocket needs to be connected via a wire for it to actually fire the rocket, you cant just shove a rocket down the toob and expect it to just fire.
In the Sten and Sterling's defense: there's barely anywhere else to COMFORTABLY hold without sacrificing control of the weapon.
"That's not an MG42", The Remake
The breda Modello 30 also has a weird visual on a non-empty reload. You can see rounds still in the clip, and the player just shoves a full ammo whatsyoucall into a partially full clip.
OH THANK LORD ITS FINALLY HERE
Making a mg42, 50cal and ppsh slow fire rate made me mad
The later models of M1 garand did lock the bolt but started reloading practice was still the same thing as the early models of the M1 garand.
Wrong, the feed system mechanically never changed while it was in military service
The grand cannot ping with ammo remaining. Think of it like this: drop an unemptied can to the ground then an empty one; you can tell which would "clank". Now use this analogy and apply it to a garand clip ejecting with ammo remaining and it being ejecting upon last shot.
One part you missed on the M1 Carbine skin is it still holds the weapon as a rifle grip and not a pistol grip as it was on the Jungle Carbines.
The thing that bugs me the most is how all the bolt actions sound the same when chambering a new round.
I agree. And also the reload sounds. Sounds like someone’s digging through a bunch of Legos
I can imagine you doing Vanguard Gun Goofs, as well as MW19 and 22.
Throwback to 2018 when i posted about Wimmersperg on WWII subreddit and it got a lot of likes lol
What was it with these devs and making the fast guns slower and the slow guns faster? Were they trying to think as backwards and nonsensically with these guns as they could?
Okay there are certain nitpicks I must point out:
-The BAR gunner would more often than not remove the bipod entirely as the gun is already heavy enough and they can just lay and fire in prone pretty easily without the bipod. Plus, it being classified as a rifle makes sense due to its actual name: Browning Automatic Rifle. This also applies for its Swedish cousin.
-The M1A1 drum mag can be a real thing but it's the magazine that is modified to go into the gun, not the opposite.
-The MP40 only grip stance is literally to the magwell, same for the M3 Grease Gun. This is being pedantic and an issue only on the STEN and other side feeding subguns.
-The Sterling did see testing in WW2 but only saw massive adoption post war.
-The Trench Gun did have a 6-round magazine tube + 1 in the chamber for a total capacity of 7 rounds.
About point number four: The character isn't gripping it by the magwell, he's holding it by the center of the magazine. Though Vanguard corrected this and had the character hold the magwell instead.
@@venommagnus It's still the same for bottom fed subgun. They're reliable enough if you grip it that way
Vanguard made me appreciate this game
About the sten, but i've heard that many soldiers in WW2 actually hold the sten by the mag so...
Oh wait, i'm actually watched Brandon's sten video so he said "choose your own adventure"
Weapons beforehand aren't built like today. Holding them by the magazine actually helps, rather than the opposite. I think Brandon Herrera pointed this out in his video on the Bri'ish Toob. Aswell as soldiers were trained to have that sort of hold. If I remember all of this correctly, if I don't, then oh well.
No not really, especially in a looser fitting magwell it will definitely cause problems. The sten is just such a piece of shit that there is not really a very good way to go about holding it with your offhand even if you didn't want to use the magazine as a grip
Delisle mags are weirdly 10 or 15 rounds. I understand game balance sometimes, but good lord the amount of inconsistent crap... would it really have mattered to just have it use real 7 and 11 round M1911 magazines?
It's because the weapon had extended magazines equipped since I used the Wanderlust perk to acquire it, I don't have the De Lisle unlocked.
The delisle carbine used converted m1911 mags if I remember correctly, so the capacity is wrong there
The De Lisle had extended mags equipped since I used the Wanderlust perk to acquire it, I don't have the weapon unlocked
the fire rate of some weapons (i.e mg 42 and mp40) were kinda correct in the game beta, idk why sledgehammer changed them in the full game
It's like they went out of their way to have wrong fire rates on everything lmao
Really an underrated game. The multiplayer was good, campaign was phenomenal. Gets too much shit
mas36 is also 10 rounds instead of 5
Wdym there was no trigger discipline in ww2?
Seeing extended magazines in games have less ammo than its real life counterpart makes me cringe.
Only Type 100 SMG which is true
Didn’t soldiers in ww2 grip guns with the magazine to prevent feeding issues?
The worst part is the lack of authentic war games around the PS4 era. These ww2 games is extremely bad somehow and I don't think it get any better day by day.
The small developers of PC who made realistic games like Squad and HLL are literally take the backs of them. Sometimes I wish I had a pc just to play a not mainstream shooter rather than a mainstream one.
It is showing that the big they are the worse they get.
Even M4sked didn’t complain that much when comes in large sights because “its for gameplay purpose”
still better than vanguard
Pretty sure anything is
Oddly the Best Modern Cod is Getting Attention again???