Each one of these electric pickups have their strong suits - for example, the Silverado EV's impressive range and the Lightning's overall comfort. Which approach to the all-electric American full-size truck works better for you? Let us know in the comments.
The midgate is a cool little gimmick. Because the moment it's too hot outside or too cold outside or bad weather you are not going to open that mid gate to let all the rain in.
Whats next a steering wheel that folds into the dash so u have room for activitys?Tesla does it right. NO key no Shifter in the " way". Whats next a steering wheel that folds into the dash so u have room for activitys?I personal like the stalks so it's right on my finger tip when hands on the wheel. I like the horn basically the airbag turn signal on the stalks wiper on left stalk right stalks is prnd and one pull for auto pilot. Yes that is all old school locations but the worked well. I would like a electric brake controller around right knee easy to reach. Every ev needs vehicle to home generator feature. 200+ kwh run the whole house off a 14 50 plug a ev standard plug. Nacs plug in 2 spots on the truck would be awesome. Pull in charging at super chargers. Passenger front fender is a better spot then driver rear if u built it to tow it has a huge battery maybe tow to a 2-3 hr away cabin. The cost of public chargers is to high so keep public charge to a minimum.
Many customers want a console shifter, can’t blame ford for appeasing their base by offering one while trying to make the most of it. I love my column shifter and I don’t think I’d trade for a console setup but there are few occasions even I do wish I had one.
I have 18 ford lightnings in my business fleet now and theyve been absolutely spectacular for my use case. So date all thats happened is one onboard charger failure and one tailgate step. A couple of them are nearing 100,000 miles already and if they had ~ 150 more miles of range id replace the rest of my half tons with them. Huge fan and initially I was pretty suspicious of how the first batch of ordere would work.
@@jghall00I don’t care. Its a crap load heavier and a ton more expensive. The form factor makes material load out for us more of a time and labor suck plus the F150 takes the same bed gear as all my gas units. Additionally the frunk being square makes an outstanding tool box storage.
GM made the correct decision, range is everything and something you can upgrade later. We cancelled our CyberTruck order because the range was not what Tesla promised.
The Rivian is also a much better product. Way more efficient, more comfortable, better capability on road and off road, etc. Yes it’s smaller, but if also lighter and so much more efficient. That Silverado weight is absolutely ridiculous. Bad ride quality, loud, inefficient, etc.
I wanted a rivian too but after having a f150 eco boost for a loaner. I saw that the F150 was more thought out, the cabin was so large, especially thr second row. For the size of the R1T the cabin was very small, especially the second row. And the price was just a deal braket. F150 lightning XLT extended range was 52k. A new rivian was almost 80k. Also the power front, and pro power on board is also ahead than R1T
I only watch EV videos to follow the development of EV's hoping technology will bring the prices down to a level where someone like myself who isn't rich can someday afford an EV. I purchased a new truck in July for 32K but if a sub 40K EV midsize truck were available I would have purchased an EV instead. Bottom line, MAKE THEM CHEAPER! Only the wealthy purchase $100,000++++ EV's so this review is essentially worthless IMO!
I like the video but wish they would compare the lower battery pack Sierra EV. Still has more range plus a much nicer interior and quieter. Plus the MSRP is much closer.
I bet they if they could. I don't think the smaller battery size Silverado or Sierra are even out. So they have to go with what they could find right now.
The Lightning has a bit more balance. The Silverado has a much larger battery meaning even though it charges faster, the actual public charge times are about the same from 10%-80%. The Silverado just puts in more electrons. And with 205 kWh @ about 50 cents per kW, that means $100 plus charging stops. I feel like if you use your truck for more all around driving The Lightning is going to tick more boxes. I mean, 345 miles is really good range for that size of vehicle. I'd only go with the Silverado if I regularly towed.
I think you're spot on. The Silverado's biggest advantage is towing long distances. It's probably also advantageous if you live someplace really cold with long distances between chargers, like out West. But for daily driving around town, the cheaper Lightning seems like a better value.
No CarPlay is a show stopper for me - GM is trying to capitalize on a new revenue stream at the expense of the proven iPhone user interface - most people, myself included, that can afford expensive EV's, want simplicity if their electronic interfaces!
@scottwright4306 I am a Lyriq owner and native GM app is much better than the carplay with the vehicle. We totally stopped using carplay after the first two weeks of ownership. Carplay is someone else's grab for money. No CarPlay is a better experience while using this vehicle. GM was correct to ditch carplay in its EV line up.
I would probably go with the smaller-wheeled and less expensive LT version of the Silverado EV. I do like the Lightning, but think it needs physical HVAC controls, at least for the temperature.
We need smaller vehicles with bench seats. It's so it doesn't feel small. I drove that tiny ranger for work and i was surprised at the comfort. I just wish that 4 cylinder had a turbo charger because it had no power.
With the deals currently on the Lightning. You can easily get one for $45k to high $50k. Because they do qualify for the $7500 rebate...up to $80k MSRP. Which means up to Lariat qualify's. Not the Platinum though. The Silverado currently does qualify for the $7500 rebate under the same condition but doesn't have the same crazy good rebates that Ford has right now.
Weight is a factor of wear n tear… suspension, tires (making even MORE particulate pollution) and braking down of roads. We need to be thinking lighter
@@TroySavarythat’s simply not true the second half of your statement. Where are you pulling the numbers that we can verify your statement from? Negligible? Shall I post the numbers? Like you can’t just come on the internet where what you say can be easily verified or not and just make up numbers…
The 205kw/hr battery is 7-10 times as large as an early EV, it is a massive 4 alarm fire on tires, it is a threat to national security to have that thing connected to the internet and sitting in a residential area, if a government can make pagers blow up what could they do with one of these trucks?
@hendo337 The pagers that blew up had explosives installed during the manufacturing and were slipped into Hezbollah 's supply chain. Israel didn't just remotely explode the batteries in random pagers. They were actual bombs disguised as pagers. Nobody is going to be making Silverados explode remotely.
When reviewers are clueless on SilveradoEV looks saying it doesn't look like the Silverado truck lineup is pure ignorance and talks about efficiency and large battery of the SilveradoEV when it's able to achieve what it promises while reviewing other BEVs that are supposedly efficient but never achieve its rated range is the dumbest thing ever especially for a truck
Hunny… math… they’re talking about math 😅. Meaning the math doesn’t math well even if it does 400 plus miles, it needs a 205 kw battery to do it and weighs over 9000 pounds, that’s not efficient. Example, when you have like a small car like a civic that will do 400 miles nearly which is less than the Silverado, does that mean the civic is less efficient more? I’m concerned you commented this 😅…
@@LafemmebearMusic lol it's a truck like any other but keep missing the point of efficiency fearmongering when even small BEVs can't achieve its rated range is the point its poiness but ok
@@LafemmebearMusic lol it's a truck like any other but keep missing the point of efficiency fearmongering when even small BEVs can't achieve its rated range is the point its poiness but ok
0:24 what did you guys forget that there’s a Sierra EV as well every time you guys I’ve seen I’ll talk about everyone else except for the new Sierra EV
@@destryearling844why is it 100k with fisher price materials 😅 I sat in my wife’s foreman’s rsv… why does this 100k truck feel like fisher price materials 😅 why?!
If Ford could just update the current lightning with a bigger battery and faster charging, they'd not need the whole revamped T3 or whatever it is. Personally I like the lightning back seat and flat floor space when seats folded up, for the doggo. Silverado's perk kills this option , but that is a pretty niche thing that I personally want.
Bigger battery? No thanks. 131kwh is plenty enough and more battery means a much heavier vehicle. Because if you ever go on a road trip or are one of those that cannot charge at home, you're spending more on charging than you would with gas. Prices for EV charging can be anyways from high .30 to mid .50 and sometime higher. If both EV and ICE equivalent full sized trucks go 300 miles on the Interstate going 70mph then refuel/recharge. The fuel price would need to be above $3.50 and the eletricity needs to be below .50 to beat the ICE truck that can easily get 20mpg and thats with a V8, a V6 would get mid 20s easily. 5 minutes to fuel an ICE vs 45+ minutes with the EV.....and the bigger the battery, the longer it will take. Because there aren't that many 350kwh chargers out there.
@joshualewis393 - bigger battery, bigger payload area, faster charging battery, more electric outlets that send more juice to the outlets and 4 wheel steering, than maybe Ford might have my interest.
@daviddill5227 Payload it with the mid gate down and the outside air blowing in plus you lose the 2 back seats. But the Lightning has more overall weight capacity. More outlets? Cool. But when it comes to it, all I need is one to provide power to my house since that's what I'm going to use it for. There is no way anyone will use all those outlets on a regular basis. Bigger battery? Meh. Just more mass and more you'll have to pay at the charging station. Charging faster? Only if you can find the 350kwh stations. At home, they are all going to charge at the same speed, but it'll take the Silverado longer because of they bigger battery. 4 wheel steering is cool but it's old tech that is coming back. I can live without it.
@joshualewis393 - the midgate down can be closed by using the cover over the bed of the truck. It keeps the outside air out. Regardless of the time of year so it's both dry and comfortable in whatever situation you use the bed in.
Making battery electric vehicles are good and all, but all I want is for US manufacturers to finally consistently design proper taillights with separate running, brake, and amber turn signals. No more all-red taillights with combination lamps like it's 1930!
Agreed. This is due to FMVSS and rear light specifications being so open to interpretation. I don't know what the change control process is but FMVSS should be more specific and in-line with you commentary.
I have apple CarPlay in my 21 GMC Sierra and my wife has a 24 Equinox EV. I don’t miss the car play and actually like the google system and think it integrates well with the car. I’m going to order a 25 Silverado EV LT in a couple of months and I won’t miss the 8” screen on that truck. Lol I’ll be towing a 24’ RV around and I think it’ll do the trick and currently is the best truck for towing
There are many of us that don't care at all about Apple Carplay or Android Auto. I think reviewers just want to point out issues to get any commentary back.
Honestly you are alone mostly on that. There’s so many surveys and people really do shop with that feature in mind. I’m basing this off of quite a few customer surveys.
GM has already shown that they will use individual driving practices as a revenue stream by selling that information to data brokers and insurance companies for profit. With that known, why would you trust them with your app usage, music history, search history, and contacts lists too? They’re just going to sell all that information about you to data brokers.
@@joejenkins1966 yeah, because apples competition does not collect your data. They are innocent little angel companies that will never spy on you. Lol loosen up your tin hat kid. The fact that you can post on UA-cam means that you already gave away all your data to someone.
Nope it is an important decision to a lot of people, so that is why they mention it. GM tried to cancel my basic coverage on my 17 and got backlash from all of us and reinstated it for all the original owners. These OEMs are trying to find new revenue streams and GM’s shitty CEO explicitly said that was part of their motivation in taking away your “free” options. Lost me as a customer that day.
4 tons? That’s more than two Ioniq 5s, or almost two Ioniq 5Ns [minus 300 kg per]… the one every UA-camr says is too heavy, or 1,000 lbs less than an EV 9… AND an Ioniq 5 [combined].
No, it's 9,700lbs, almost 5 tons with the driver and a few things, absolutely ridiculous and irresponsible. That is what a fully loaded 3/4-1 ton truck with a 9,900/10,000lb GVRW weighs FULLY LOADED TO IT GOVERNMENT MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE WEIGHT. It has an many batteries as 7-10 early EVs making it a 5 ton firebomb.
No, NOT all of your viewers think the lack of Apple CarPlay is a problem. Some of us don't live in the Apple ecosystem (in fact most of us use Android phones, not Apple phones). I have never used Apple CarPlay in my Lightning and never will.
These are the reviews I live for! As a lightning owner I know I got it first and I got a really good vehicle out of it but damn that Chevy Silverado looks so good and on top of that is going to have better range than what I have! I can't wait to watch this video. Good job Chevy.
So why is it more scary to tow hands free than to drive hands free. Both are equally scary. When you took driver's Ed didn't they tell you to always keep your hands on the wheel?
What do you need public charging for right after she states she’d rather tow her race car. Honey, you’re going to want the Silverado for that one unless you only have 50 miles one way to the track .
Griping about the interior of the Silverado seems ridiculous. It's a truck that screams versatility, not luxury. Plastic in a versatile truck IS A GOOD THING. I don't want a Range Rover or RR Cullinin interior.
The problem is that the interior doesn't reflect the price, even at higher trims. On most trucks the highest trim, like Platinum, Laramie, etc. will have a nice interior. On the Silverado all the money went into the battery. Perhaps the Sierra is nicer but at 96k a decent interior should be standard.
It matters when the vehicle is 6 figures. A platinum lightning would still be quite a bit less and absolutely destroys the chevy interior. I have 18 Lightnings in the work truck trim (Pro) and their interiors seem nicer than this
@@mattbrew11 - the fancy interior matters to you, that is fine! I couldn't care less about plastic. Its light in weight, durable, and resists heat, cold, and is resistant to life's daily use.
Great video! Yes I would go with the Lightning also. I said would, as even at 75k is way too much for a pickup truck. Non sense to put 100k for a Silverado, come on GM. GM was supposed to release a 45k WT Variant of this EV, not seeing that coming soon. They found a way to screw it again. Also 9000 pounds. These heavy vehicules will destroy our infrastructures in no time.
No car play, no purchase. I love car play in my Bolt, it works, it’s simple. Honda was smart and have it in the Blazer clone the Prologue(Smart) GM thinks they’re going to get subscription fees for janky apps and services. Not going to happen in this house.
for the e-pickup curious, two more fat rides, too furious, (and on wallets, injurious!) where is the smaller, the lighter to lead? It's not nuclear fission, just needs someone with vision to make the decision to build something we need.
Silverado looks better inside and out only two things I don’t care about for the Silverado is the Apple CarPlay and I wish the payload was higher like the F150… Put five full grown adults And your almost at Max payload “almost”
I rather have the extra interior room for my passengers and the longer range and better Maneuverability with the rear steer and the adaptive air ride that can be adjusted lower or higher for more clearance and the usability of the mid-gate to carry longer objects and the multi pro tailgate feature and having more on board power for camping no sir this win goes to the Silverado hands down you can keep your little folding gear shifter I'm good lol and the way the ford screen is just stuck on the dashboard like a big tablet that was a after thought doesn't look good at all
F150 Lightning No Brainer Chevy no android or apple car play, ride quality sucks with big wheels and small tires, Interior sucks, very cheap and poor quality, and way more expensive than Lightning Wake up GM, Ford F150 is still kicking your butt even with an electric truck Who is making these decisions, call me Mary Barra (CEO) I can help
Thanks for the breakdown! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
Apple CarPlay and Android Auto are nice to have but they have limitations. They cannot talk to the vehicle to help adjust the battery temperature for faster charging if using the maps. Nor do they give somebody the ability to set up a trip and know where to stop and charge along the way in the most efficient way possible. Not a real loss to not have them since people tend to be creatures of habit and would probably miss out on the advantages of the built in system in the Silverado. You can still do everything with your phone using voice commands and Google Built-in, you just don't get the visual interface of the native phones.
I believe that both Ford EVs can talk to the vehicle for proper preconditioning and charging stops. This is unique to Ford. Hyundai maybe doing the same.
How couldnit possibibly ride bad when it weighs as much with only it's driver and a few things as a fully loaded 3/4-1 ton truck that has a 9,900/10,000lb GVWR. How stupid is it to put 205kw/hr of batteries in a vehicle way beyond the point if diminishing returns, as many batteries as 7-10 early EVs and then it is almost required to use battery damaging DC quick charging and you arenlect with essentially a huge fire bomb if the thing is used like a truck offroad or is wrecked in the wrong way that exposes those materials that are considered hazmat if hauled outside a vehicle and damaged while wet...then catching an "earth killing" unstoppable fire. I can't see any situation where that could ever be considered better for the planet than running a highly simplified lighter weight truck with a ln old school mechnical diesel like an OM606 or 6BT for 500,000-1,000,000 miles...basically a lifetime and never impacting the world with more manufacturing that is truly destructuve and wasteful. Guess what, the soot from diesel exhaust is just tiny chunks of charcoal that falls out of suspension and becomes dirt on the ground. It doesnt stay in the air and cause pollution, it "looks dirty" but it is better than mining and manufacturing and creating power with coal then sending that powernthrough hundreds ir thousands of miles of power lines into a vehicle with massive losses and heat generated along the way. Down with the EPA and CAFE we need a new deal again, its time for common sense regulations, vehicles are a massive boondoggle created by greedy executives that want to sell a $100,000+ vehicle every 7-10 years with no exceptions that spies on you. No thanks, F-you.
Wait, I don’t get why the Ford won, because the Chevy had a plastic interior that frankly looks better than the Fords? A lot of details missing in this review if you want to buy one of these two you shroud really compare them on your own. This review was largely worthless, more style than substance.
ITS SO INEFFICIENT THO! A 205 kw battery is the size of two Miata’s in weight… 9000 plus pounds. Do you people just not care about breathing like… clean air? 24 inch wheels? With the thinnest rubber ever? It’s so incredibly inefficient. And I sat in one recently it feels like a fisher price toy for 100k? I need yall to do math… please do basic math 😅
Pretty much. I want to go further and charge faster, that is the Chevy. Amazing that folks are so tied to iPhones that they consider no Apple Carplay a deal breaker.
weird how chastizing the Fords braking distance yet Chevys is worse as far as weight wrong again as fords almost 7k Chevys almost 9k! it's just another biased review leaving facts out of it!!! price is another big difference, seems very one sided ,,, Chevys are EVs from ground up yet on of the worst eficiency needing a massive battery to compare!
Why is this woman talking about this??? Seems more something men would be reviewing. Let's be real, not many women compared to men are into this kind of shit and just seems less credible.
😂😂😂 you can't haul anything, there's nowhere to fill up, 180 mile real world range, your electric bill will go up 400 to 1,000%... Where does electricity come from??😂😂😂
I would take the Silverado. Considering the terrible reliability of the F150 lightning, and Ford's general reputation in general, I would take the more practical and trustworthy Silverado. At least Ultium cars have proven quite reliable. 😊
There is no mention of the terrible safety features. When these heavy low center of gravity electric vehicles hit something they plow on through it. Like interstate highways guardrails. Guardrails don't even slow them down. They go straight through. Same thing with any vehicle they might hit. When they catch fire, there's is no way to extinguish the fire. The weight destroys the roads. Replace batteries every 5 years or less at around 15 thousand dollars. Tire replacement is often at around 2 thousand dollars. Finding a 350 amp charging station for the Chevy? Good luck. I'll pass . No thanks
It is amazing to me how people just make up reasons to hate EVs. Like any vehicle, EVs have advantages and disadvantages. You can discuss their drawbacks without making things up.
Now, take both of these. Load them up with something heavy for towing, in the winter. Be amazed at their sub 90 mile range. Then realize that EV trucks are stupid.
You are factually incorrect. Many many customer surveys say customers shop this feature. The mare accurately stated fact would be you personally do not care about that feature. 😊
@LafemmebearMusic OK, you answer the second part. What can you do with Carplay that you cannot do with this truck? Carplay fans can never answer that question.
No ev for me … they can put in a 90 inch tv and i will never buy one … folding seats so you can sleep while charging???? Eff that , takes 3 minutes to fill my suburban and I’m out of there … gas stations are for homeless to sleep at not someone with a $100k vehicle!!!!
It's not really for charging. It's for people that spend a lot of time on job sites. I have an Expedition for towing and two EVs. The EVs see far more use as daily drivers because they're just better. Full charger everytime I leave the house and no climbing around the vehicle for repairs.
Each one of these electric pickups have their strong suits - for example, the Silverado EV's impressive range and the Lightning's overall comfort. Which approach to the all-electric American full-size truck works better for you? Let us know in the comments.
The midgate is a cool little gimmick. Because the moment it's too hot outside or too cold outside or bad weather you are not going to open that mid gate to let all the rain in.
You have to wonder how much ford spent to develop a folding gearshift to “provide more room” when a console gearshift isn’t even needed.
Whats next a steering wheel that folds into the dash so u have room for activitys?Tesla does it right. NO key no Shifter in the " way". Whats next a steering wheel that folds into the dash so u have room for activitys?I personal like the stalks so it's right on my finger tip when hands on the wheel. I like the horn basically the airbag turn signal on the stalks wiper on left stalk right stalks is prnd and one pull for auto pilot. Yes that is all old school locations but the worked well. I would like a electric brake controller around right knee easy to reach. Every ev needs vehicle to home generator feature. 200+ kwh run the whole house off a 14 50 plug a ev standard plug. Nacs plug in 2 spots on the truck would be awesome. Pull in charging at super chargers. Passenger front fender is a better spot then driver rear if u built it to tow it has a huge battery maybe tow to a 2-3 hr away cabin. The cost of public chargers is to high so keep public charge to a minimum.
Just eliminate the gear knob
Many customers want a console shifter, can’t blame ford for appeasing their base by offering one while trying to make the most of it. I love my column shifter and I don’t think I’d trade for a console setup but there are few occasions even I do wish I had one.
@@electricandlspowerFord did just bring out a folding steering wheel in their European Transit vans. Makes for a flat work surface or tray table.
F250 with every cab which is same as F150 has column shifter
I have 18 ford lightnings in my business fleet now and theyve been absolutely spectacular for my use case. So date all thats happened is one onboard charger failure and one tailgate step. A couple of them are nearing 100,000 miles already and if they had ~ 150 more miles of range id replace the rest of my half tons with them. Huge fan and initially I was pretty suspicious of how the first batch of ordere would work.
Silverado EV work truck trim has larger batteries.
@@jghall00I don’t care. Its a crap load heavier and a ton more expensive. The form factor makes material load out for us more of a time and labor suck plus the F150 takes the same bed gear as all my gas units. Additionally the frunk being square makes an outstanding tool box storage.
@@mattbrew11 How much do you think you've saved from a cost perspective vs had you got 18 gas units instead?
GM made the correct decision, range is everything and something you can upgrade later. We cancelled our CyberTruck order because the range was not what Tesla promised.
Did you mean can't upgrade later?
I'd prefer R1T over both. Wish there were something smaller like a Maverick
The Rivian is also a much better product. Way more efficient, more comfortable, better capability on road and off road, etc.
Yes it’s smaller, but if also lighter and so much more efficient. That Silverado weight is absolutely ridiculous. Bad ride quality, loud, inefficient, etc.
I wanted a rivian too but after having a f150 eco boost for a loaner. I saw that the F150 was more thought out, the cabin was so large, especially thr second row.
For the size of the R1T the cabin was very small, especially the second row.
And the price was just a deal braket. F150 lightning XLT extended range was 52k.
A new rivian was almost 80k.
Also the power front, and pro power on board is also ahead than R1T
You not using a rivian for any work so if you’re a home depot on Saturdays karen you can make that statement
@maximel.9729 dude, your so dumb. A RT1 actually weighs more than a lightning.
That's a lifestyle vehicle though. Not an actual work truck.
If you tow, larger battery size will matter more. You range will cut in half when you tow.
I only watch EV videos to follow the development of EV's hoping technology will bring the prices down to a level where someone like myself who isn't rich can someday afford an EV. I purchased a new truck in July for 32K but if a sub 40K EV midsize truck were available I would have purchased an EV instead. Bottom line, MAKE THEM CHEAPER! Only the wealthy purchase $100,000++++ EV's so this review is essentially worthless IMO!
I am not sure if I would consider making 250K and 500K wealthy, just my two cents.
You can get an F150 lightnings for mid 40s right now
Remember when flat screen TVs first came out? It takes time to get prices down.
I like the video but wish they would compare the lower battery pack Sierra EV. Still has more range plus a much nicer interior and quieter. Plus the MSRP is much closer.
I bet they if they could. I don't think the smaller battery size Silverado or Sierra are even out. So they have to go with what they could find right now.
The 25 sierra and Silverado are out with the smaller battery, they were on the gmc lot when i was there this afternoon
Ford F 150 Lightning is Faster Than a Chevrolet Silverado EV
The Lightning has a bit more balance. The Silverado has a much larger battery meaning even though it charges faster, the actual public charge times are about the same from 10%-80%. The Silverado just puts in more electrons. And with 205 kWh @ about 50 cents per kW, that means $100 plus charging stops. I feel like if you use your truck for more all around driving The Lightning is going to tick more boxes. I mean, 345 miles is really good range for that size of vehicle. I'd only go with the Silverado if I regularly towed.
I think you're spot on. The Silverado's biggest advantage is towing long distances. It's probably also advantageous if you live someplace really cold with long distances between chargers, like out West. But for daily driving around town, the cheaper Lightning seems like a better value.
No CarPlay is a show stopper for me - GM is trying to capitalize on a new revenue stream at the expense of the proven iPhone user interface - most people, myself included, that can afford expensive EV's, want simplicity if their electronic interfaces!
@scottwright4306 I am a Lyriq owner and native GM app is much better than the carplay with the vehicle. We totally stopped using carplay after the first two weeks of ownership. Carplay is someone else's grab for money. No CarPlay is a better experience while using this vehicle. GM was correct to ditch carplay in its EV line up.
I would probably go with the smaller-wheeled and less expensive LT version of the Silverado EV. I do like the Lightning, but think it needs physical HVAC controls, at least for the temperature.
Do the XLT version and you get physical controls and save $$$
We need smaller vehicles with bench seats. It's so it doesn't feel small. I drove that tiny ranger for work and i was surprised at the comfort. I just wish that 4 cylinder had a turbo charger because it had no power.
Two vehicles with outrageous sticker prices. Two vehicles which will sit on dealer lots for over 15 months.
With the deals currently on the Lightning. You can easily get one for $45k to high $50k. Because they do qualify for the $7500 rebate...up to $80k MSRP. Which means up to Lariat qualify's. Not the Platinum though. The Silverado currently does qualify for the $7500 rebate under the same condition but doesn't have the same crazy good rebates that Ford has right now.
Yep, i almost got one for 20k off sticker.
Weight is a factor of wear n tear… suspension, tires (making even MORE particulate pollution) and braking down of roads. We need to be thinking lighter
Semi trucks are what breaks down roads. When they weigh 60-80k lbs, the difference between EVs and ICE is negligible.
@@TroySavarythat’s simply not true the second half of your statement. Where are you pulling the numbers that we can verify your statement from? Negligible? Shall I post the numbers? Like you can’t just come on the internet where what you say can be easily verified or not and just make up numbers…
The 205kw/hr battery is 7-10 times as large as an early EV, it is a massive 4 alarm fire on tires, it is a threat to national security to have that thing connected to the internet and sitting in a residential area, if a government can make pagers blow up what could they do with one of these trucks?
@hendo337 The pagers that blew up had explosives installed during the manufacturing and were slipped into Hezbollah 's supply chain. Israel didn't just remotely explode the batteries in random pagers. They were actual bombs disguised as pagers. Nobody is going to be making Silverados explode remotely.
@@LafemmebearMusic You really think that roads designed for 80k lb semis are being destroyed by EVs?
When reviewers are clueless on SilveradoEV looks saying it doesn't look like the Silverado truck lineup is pure ignorance and talks about efficiency and large battery of the SilveradoEV when it's able to achieve what it promises while reviewing other BEVs that are supposedly efficient but never achieve its rated range is the dumbest thing ever especially for a truck
Hunny… math… they’re talking about math 😅. Meaning the math doesn’t math well even if it does 400 plus miles, it needs a 205 kw battery to do it and weighs over 9000 pounds, that’s not efficient. Example, when you have like a small car like a civic that will do 400 miles nearly which is less than the Silverado, does that mean the civic is less efficient more? I’m concerned you commented this 😅…
Wow you really commented this… 😅 math… bb math … go look up efficiency calculators … I mean bb google is your friend
@@LafemmebearMusic lol it's a truck like any other but keep missing the point of efficiency fearmongering when even small BEVs can't achieve its rated range is the point its poiness but ok
@@LafemmebearMusic lol it's a truck like any other but keep missing the point of efficiency fearmongering when even small BEVs can't achieve its rated range is the point its poiness but ok
I have 18 Lightnings. They exceed the epa rating by 10% at 70 and 15 or so% in town
0:24 what did you guys forget that there’s a Sierra EV as well every time you guys I’ve seen I’ll talk about everyone else except for the new Sierra EV
Exactly! Sierra blows the 150 away in materials.
@@destryearling844why is it 100k with fisher price materials 😅 I sat in my wife’s foreman’s rsv… why does this 100k truck feel like fisher price materials 😅 why?!
@@destryearling844it also annihilates it in price. You could buy 3 Pro Lightnings for the cost of the sierrw
If Ford could just update the current lightning with a bigger battery and faster charging, they'd not need the whole revamped T3 or whatever it is. Personally I like the lightning back seat and flat floor space when seats folded up, for the doggo. Silverado's perk kills this option , but that is a pretty niche thing that I personally want.
Bigger battery? No thanks. 131kwh is plenty enough and more battery means a much heavier vehicle. Because if you ever go on a road trip or are one of those that cannot charge at home, you're spending more on charging than you would with gas. Prices for EV charging can be anyways from high .30 to mid .50 and sometime higher.
If both EV and ICE equivalent full sized trucks go 300 miles on the Interstate going 70mph then refuel/recharge. The fuel price would need to be above $3.50 and the eletricity needs to be below .50 to beat the ICE truck that can easily get 20mpg and thats with a V8, a V6 would get mid 20s easily. 5 minutes to fuel an ICE vs 45+ minutes with the EV.....and the bigger the battery, the longer it will take. Because there aren't that many 350kwh chargers out there.
@@joshualewis393which fullsize truck with a V6 gets 25 mpg (outside the chevy duramax and very unfortunately discontinued ecodiesel ram)
@joshualewis393 - bigger battery, bigger payload area, faster charging battery, more electric outlets that send more juice to the outlets and 4 wheel steering, than maybe Ford might have my interest.
@daviddill5227 Payload it with the mid gate down and the outside air blowing in plus you lose the 2 back seats. But the Lightning has more overall weight capacity.
More outlets? Cool. But when it comes to it, all I need is one to provide power to my house since that's what I'm going to use it for. There is no way anyone will use all those outlets on a regular basis.
Bigger battery? Meh. Just more mass and more you'll have to pay at the charging station.
Charging faster? Only if you can find the 350kwh stations. At home, they are all going to charge at the same speed, but it'll take the Silverado longer because of they bigger battery.
4 wheel steering is cool but it's old tech that is coming back. I can live without it.
@joshualewis393 - the midgate down can be closed by using the cover over the bed of the truck. It keeps the outside air out. Regardless of the time of year so it's both dry and comfortable in whatever situation you use the bed in.
Making battery electric vehicles are good and all, but all I want is for US manufacturers to finally consistently design proper taillights with separate running, brake, and amber turn signals. No more all-red taillights with combination lamps like it's 1930!
Agreed. This is due to FMVSS and rear light specifications being so open to interpretation. I don't know what the change control process is but FMVSS should be more specific and in-line with you commentary.
I hope yall change the testers to fit each type of vehicle. Sport, luxury, offroad, trucks.
Great idea, she fits better with luxury. I could see her reviewing something more elegant.
@Icayn Shes a great reviewer/tester.
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I have apple CarPlay in my 21 GMC Sierra and my wife has a 24 Equinox EV. I don’t miss the car play and actually like the google system and think it integrates well with the car. I’m going to order a 25 Silverado EV LT in a couple of months and I won’t miss the 8” screen on that truck. Lol I’ll be towing a 24’ RV around and I think it’ll do the trick and currently is the best truck for towing
Glazing the f150 to the max
There are many of us that don't care at all about Apple Carplay or Android Auto. I think reviewers just want to point out issues to get any commentary back.
Honestly you are alone mostly on that. There’s so many surveys and people really do shop with that feature in mind. I’m basing this off of quite a few customer surveys.
Mostly alone, but there are some of us that prefer not to hand our lives over to Apple, which is essentially what you do when you buy an iPhone
GM has already shown that they will use individual driving practices as a revenue stream by selling that information to data brokers and insurance companies for profit.
With that known, why would you trust them with your app usage, music history, search history, and contacts lists too? They’re just going to sell all that information about you to data brokers.
@@joejenkins1966 yeah, because apples competition does not collect your data. They are innocent little angel companies that will never spy on you. Lol loosen up your tin hat kid. The fact that you can post on UA-cam means that you already gave away all your data to someone.
Nope it is an important decision to a lot of people, so that is why they mention it. GM tried to cancel my basic coverage on my 17 and got backlash from all of us and reinstated it for all the original owners. These OEMs are trying to find new revenue streams and GM’s shitty CEO explicitly said that was part of their motivation in taking away your “free” options. Lost me as a customer that day.
4 tons? That’s more than two Ioniq 5s, or almost two Ioniq 5Ns [minus 300 kg per]… the one every UA-camr says is too heavy, or 1,000 lbs less than an EV 9… AND an Ioniq 5 [combined].
No, it's 9,700lbs, almost 5 tons with the driver and a few things, absolutely ridiculous and irresponsible. That is what a fully loaded 3/4-1 ton truck with a 9,900/10,000lb GVRW weighs FULLY LOADED TO IT GOVERNMENT MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE WEIGHT. It has an many batteries as 7-10 early EVs making it a 5 ton firebomb.
No, NOT all of your viewers think the lack of Apple CarPlay is a problem. Some of us don't live in the Apple ecosystem (in fact most of us use Android phones, not Apple phones). I have never used Apple CarPlay in my Lightning and never will.
More Emme please!
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These are the reviews I live for! As a lightning owner I know I got it first and I got a really good vehicle out of it but damn that Chevy Silverado looks so good and on top of that is going to have better range than what I have! I can't wait to watch this video. Good job Chevy.
So why is it more scary to tow hands free than to drive hands free. Both are equally scary. When you took driver's Ed didn't they tell you to always keep your hands on the wheel?
your reviews make a lot of sense and get in much info A+ approve of no sequay
Ford with much better interior wins that category by 0.5 🤦♂️
The score weights are strange and probably non-existant. Imagine if they were using the F150 Platinum in this comparison instead.
What do you need public charging for right after she states she’d rather tow her race car. Honey, you’re going to want the Silverado for that one unless you only have 50 miles one way to the track .
Another 2 weeks or so,
until I get to see some MMA fights again,
so please , please keep them coming guys ! Love your content .
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No Apple Car Play is a big strike against GM!
Griping about the interior of the Silverado seems ridiculous. It's a truck that screams versatility, not luxury. Plastic in a versatile truck IS A GOOD THING. I don't want a Range Rover or RR Cullinin interior.
The problem is that the interior doesn't reflect the price, even at higher trims. On most trucks the highest trim, like Platinum, Laramie, etc. will have a nice interior. On the Silverado all the money went into the battery. Perhaps the Sierra is nicer but at 96k a decent interior should be standard.
It matters when the vehicle is 6 figures. A platinum lightning would still be quite a bit less and absolutely destroys the chevy interior. I have 18 Lightnings in the work truck trim (Pro) and their interiors seem nicer than this
@@mattbrew11 - the fancy interior matters to you, that is fine! I couldn't care less about plastic. Its light in weight, durable, and resists heat, cold, and is resistant to life's daily use.
@ I buy work trucks I simply said for $100k that interior is embarrassing
No CarPlay is a dealbreaker. But I have bias towards my Lariat Lightning Extended! 😂
Two more usb c ports in the center console when you open it up
Great video! Yes I would go with the Lightning also. I said would, as even at 75k is way too much for a pickup truck. Non sense to put 100k for a Silverado, come on GM. GM was supposed to release a 45k WT Variant of this EV, not seeing that coming soon. They found a way to screw it again. Also 9000 pounds. These heavy vehicules will destroy our infrastructures in no time.
No car play, no purchase. I love car play in my Bolt, it works, it’s simple. Honda was smart and have it in the Blazer clone the Prologue(Smart) GM thinks they’re going to get subscription fees for janky apps and services. Not going to happen in this house.
You forgot to mention how the Ford is prone to spontaneously combust
No it isn't. There was literally one early model with a defect that had a fire.
So what's the weight of the Ford?
I really appreciated the enthusiasm in this video.
for the e-pickup curious, two more fat rides, too furious, (and on wallets, injurious!) where is the smaller, the lighter to lead? It's not nuclear fission, just needs someone with vision to make the decision to build something we need.
Silverado looks better inside and out only two things I don’t care about for the Silverado is the Apple CarPlay and I wish the payload was higher like the F150…
Put five full grown adults And your almost at Max payload “almost”
Pretty sure I'm gonna have to block Edmunds if this lady keeps popping up
Where are the guys ?
It's ok if you like men.
I rather have the extra interior room for my passengers and the longer range and better Maneuverability with the rear steer and the adaptive air ride that can be adjusted lower or higher for more clearance and the usability of the mid-gate to carry longer objects and the multi pro tailgate feature and having more on board power for camping no sir this win goes to the Silverado hands down you can keep your little folding gear shifter I'm good lol and the way the ford screen is just stuck on the dashboard like a big tablet that was a after thought doesn't look good at all
Let’s not get some DDP 🤔 😂
Reviews two trucks, does no truck things with either.
Just like regular truck owners
F150 Lightning No Brainer
Chevy no android or apple car play, ride quality sucks with big wheels and small tires, Interior sucks, very cheap and poor quality, and way more expensive than Lightning
Wake up GM, Ford F150 is still kicking your butt even with an electric truck
Who is making these decisions, call me Mary Barra (CEO) I can help
Never use the letters D and P together. K, thanks
I thought the F150 Lightning was discontinued 🤔
You're thinking of the camaro. It's done for.
It's been recording record sales. Stop listening to anti-EV fake news.
the chevy interior stitches does not have a single straight seam :O
I've hated android auto in all the rentals I've had, maybe if I had enough time I could customize certain things but. Give me Bluetooth and I'm good
ford has had a few years to play around with its truck and the Chevy is newer, wait till new year and see what happens.
No Apple Car Play or Android Auto in the Chevy would be a complete deal breaker, WILL NOT BUY A NEW or NEWER car that does not have them.
Great host!
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And I could tell this woman is very bias towards the Chevy Silverado, then the Ford F150
Apple CarPlay and Android Auto are nice to have but they have limitations. They cannot talk to the vehicle to help adjust the battery temperature for faster charging if using the maps. Nor do they give somebody the ability to set up a trip and know where to stop and charge along the way in the most efficient way possible. Not a real loss to not have them since people tend to be creatures of habit and would probably miss out on the advantages of the built in system in the Silverado. You can still do everything with your phone using voice commands and Google Built-in, you just don't get the visual interface of the native phones.
I believe that both Ford EVs can talk to the vehicle for proper preconditioning and charging stops. This is unique to Ford. Hyundai maybe doing the same.
You absolutely can use car play to show ev charging. 1-10 on the reGard scale you’re about a 7,6
How couldnit possibibly ride bad when it weighs as much with only it's driver and a few things as a fully loaded 3/4-1 ton truck that has a 9,900/10,000lb GVWR. How stupid is it to put 205kw/hr of batteries in a vehicle way beyond the point if diminishing returns, as many batteries as 7-10 early EVs and then it is almost required to use battery damaging DC quick charging and you arenlect with essentially a huge fire bomb if the thing is used like a truck offroad or is wrecked in the wrong way that exposes those materials that are considered hazmat if hauled outside a vehicle and damaged while wet...then catching an "earth killing" unstoppable fire. I can't see any situation where that could ever be considered better for the planet than running a highly simplified lighter weight truck with a ln old school mechnical diesel like an OM606 or 6BT for 500,000-1,000,000 miles...basically a lifetime and never impacting the world with more manufacturing that is truly destructuve and wasteful. Guess what, the soot from diesel exhaust is just tiny chunks of charcoal that falls out of suspension and becomes dirt on the ground. It doesnt stay in the air and cause pollution, it "looks dirty" but it is better than mining and manufacturing and creating power with coal then sending that powernthrough hundreds ir thousands of miles of power lines into a vehicle with massive losses and heat generated along the way. Down with the EPA and CAFE we need a new deal again, its time for common sense regulations, vehicles are a massive boondoggle created by greedy executives that want to sell a $100,000+ vehicle every 7-10 years with no exceptions that spies on you. No thanks, F-you.
Wait, I don’t get why the Ford won, because the Chevy had a plastic interior that frankly looks better than the Fords?
A lot of details missing in this review if you want to buy one of these two you shroud really compare them on your own. This review was largely worthless, more style than substance.
So what Apple crap. You got AM/FM audio... Local sounds and News.. Give me Chevy all the way for in and out tech..
That subtle dig at the cybertruck…. 2:18
Not a big fan of her or these two vehicles.
2:20 is that a Subliminal message??? Totally shacking her head while saying cybertruck?
Especially since they own one yet didn't include it in the test.
Sorry but for me range and range is the winner for me
ITS SO INEFFICIENT THO! A 205 kw battery is the size of two Miata’s in weight… 9000 plus pounds. Do you people just not care about breathing like… clean air? 24 inch wheels? With the thinnest rubber ever? It’s so incredibly inefficient. And I sat in one recently it feels like a fisher price toy for 100k? I need yall to do math… please do basic math 😅
You should be sorry for the nonsensical illogical statement 😂
Pretty much. I want to go further and charge faster, that is the Chevy. Amazing that folks are so tied to iPhones that they consider no Apple Carplay a deal breaker.
It's also a giant rolling firebomb that spies on you and sells your date.
weird how chastizing the Fords braking distance yet Chevys is worse as far as weight wrong again as fords almost 7k Chevys almost 9k! it's just another biased review leaving facts out of it!!! price is another big difference, seems very one sided ,,, Chevys are EVs from ground up yet on of the worst eficiency needing a massive battery to compare!
too heavy too expensive.
Chevy- No apple car play or Android Auto. Can't buy you!
Why is this woman talking about this??? Seems more something men would be reviewing. Let's be real, not many women compared to men are into this kind of shit and just seems less credible.
Next thing you know, women will be working outside of the home, and stuff.
Ya’ll
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This woman is annoying! I just couldn’t sit through the full video. Can we get someone less dramatic!? Thank you
Touch screens in vehicles are just a giant point of failure waiting to happen.
My phone is sufficient. The rest should be buttons and dials.
stupid price with zero truck utility. no thank you
No Car Play I’m not buying
Very wrong not to have car play. Won’t buy for sure
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Which one is worth your money 🤔 neither 😂😂😂😂
In 2025, buying a car that isn’t able to drive itself, it’s crazy!
😂😂😂 you can't haul anything, there's nowhere to fill up, 180 mile real world range, your electric bill will go up 400 to 1,000%... Where does electricity come from??😂😂😂
I would take the Silverado. Considering the terrible reliability of the F150 lightning, and Ford's general reputation in general, I would take the more practical and trustworthy Silverado. At least Ultium cars have proven quite reliable. 😊
I've heard the exact opposite. The Lightning has largely been bullet proof with GM EVs having many initial problems.
There is no mention of the terrible safety features.
When these heavy low center of gravity electric vehicles hit something they plow on through it. Like interstate highways guardrails. Guardrails don't even slow them down. They go straight through. Same thing with any vehicle they might hit. When they catch fire, there's is no way to extinguish the fire.
The weight destroys the roads.
Replace batteries every 5 years or less at around 15 thousand dollars. Tire replacement is often at around 2 thousand dollars. Finding a 350 amp charging station for the Chevy? Good luck.
I'll pass . No thanks
It is amazing to me how people just make up reasons to hate EVs. Like any vehicle, EVs have advantages and disadvantages. You can discuss their drawbacks without making things up.
Before watching - sorry Ford, you aren't even in the same league. You might be if you were priced right, but nope.
Now, take both of these. Load them up with something heavy for towing, in the winter. Be amazed at their sub 90 mile range. Then realize that EV trucks are stupid.
Bah, boring EV’s all the time
All these proud… 😅men in every comment section swearing no Evs ever lol we see you your wery wery pwouuuud
EV? Not interested in either of them.
Thanks for sharing. I see you only clicked on this video to say that, which is a weird hobby… but you do you.
president Musk, you just voted for, will be very disappointed!
Nobody gives a shit about Carplay. Tell me one thing that Carplay does that is necessary for driving a truck.
You are factually incorrect. Many many customer surveys say customers shop this feature. The mare accurately stated fact would be you personally do not care about that feature. 😊
@LafemmebearMusic OK, you answer the second part. What can you do with Carplay that you cannot do with this truck? Carplay fans can never answer that question.
No ev for me … they can put in a 90 inch tv and i will never buy one … folding seats so you can sleep while charging???? Eff that , takes 3 minutes to fill my suburban and I’m out of there … gas stations are for homeless to sleep at not someone with a $100k vehicle!!!!
It's not really for charging. It's for people that spend a lot of time on job sites. I have an Expedition for towing and two EVs. The EVs see far more use as daily drivers because they're just better. Full charger everytime I leave the house and no climbing around the vehicle for repairs.
Ev sucks
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Basically ford lightning is just a F150 with a hoover-vacuum cleaner motor, while the Silverado is a purpose built EV truck.
Purpose built EV truck? Because of the mid gate? What would that make the Avalance? Purpose built luxury truck?
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