How to Zero A Red Dot | EDC | Tips I Holosun 507C | Navy SEAL |2022
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2022
- In this video I cover a few tips on how to separate Fundamental Issues from Optic Misalignment, that will help you ensure you are left with a true zero on your Red Dot at whichever yard you choose.
In the next video I will be covering the most common zero's and show you what each offer.
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Great video Brother. I look for defensive tutorials because thats how I was trained in the Army. I too am transitioning from iron sights but like you said, performance is obtained through consistent training. So thanks for sharing your real world knowledge. I’m waiting on a Holosun 407 for my Sig 365xl edc and will be coming back to this video soon. You have a new subscriber here.
2-1/2 minutes in you confirmed my thoughts on optics. Excellent post really helped me decide on my approach.
I've been carrying a Glock 48 and it shoots very accurate for me. I'm now in the process of setting up a Glock 43x Mos with a Holosun 507k x2
My first red dot on a pistol for me.
This information should be useful for me. Thanks again for your Service and support. Go Navy!!!!!!
Job well done with both your verbal instruction and modeling technique on how to zero a Red Dot optic sight. Two thumbs up...WAY UP!!!!
That bring back memories of when I taught trainees the basics of rifle marksmanship. Stuff I forgot you made me slap my forehead at least a dozen times. Great video great training technique. Most importantly Thank You for your Service
I've shot competitively for over 20 years and finally putting together my first carry optics pistol(43x MOS & 407k) I love that you really stressed to folks about the transitional period before "carrying" with a dot. You have done a great job explaining things and I'm happy to be a new subscriber of yours. Thank you for your service. MR2 USN '93-'97
howd it go with the 407? just bought a 507x2 for the 43x
@@joshuacripe1514 I decided pretty quickly to move to a Glock 19 with a 407c. I'm doing really well with with setup.
Great Video! I watch all your videos but forgot about this one. I saw so many videos pop up but as soon as I saw you in the video I knew this was the best one to watch
Thank you for the kind words. 🙏
Simple and to the point. Thank you for your time and effort.
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Keep these coming, love the channel!
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I spent 25 yrs in LE and only used a red dot on my rifle. I'm finally transitioning to one on my EDC, after a lot of back and forth, much for the same reasons you mentioned. Thanks for the video.
I'm in the same boat. I loved my red dot on my rifle but mentally never could do it on a pistol. I have found the Holosun 507k to be the perfect fit for me. The circle with dot is just like a mini Eotech. I'm about ready for it to go on the daily pistol.
Thanks for the video. I started at 3yrd, 5yd, 10yrd, etc. This was the first time for red dot on a pistol(sig365x), let alone a ccw. Took my time and it paid off. Thanks for the additional skills and suggestions.
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Best dot video I have watched. It's just what I needed and agree with all you said my friend
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TOUGH intro!! Love the video..... I learned a lot and look forward to trying out the new techniques.
Great vid as always, I'm looking forward to the next one.
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I'm new to the red dots and this was a great explanation, next time I hit the range I'll definitely use this advice. thanks for your time
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The new video is even better! Which zero is best for an RDS?!
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Same here
Outstanding instruction and sharing of knowledge, Froggy-Thx.
Getting ready to make this transition my self , thank you for the information 👊🏻
Installed my Holosun 507c X2 today and,you were a great help for my range trip this week.Thank you for Serving also.
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@@frogmantactical Had a blast with my first 100rds fired from my PDP C 5" with the Holosun optic.
First time shooting with a optic and,with your advice made the change worthwhile
East Texas here! Great video with good info, I've got a S&W M&P 9mm 2.0 4" with suppressor sights and TLR 7. I just ordered a Holosun 407c-gr x2 2moa green dot. It will be here tomorrow, and I'm like a kid at Christmas 😆 I shoot strictly iron on my pistols, but I'm getting a little age on me. Thanks foe the info👍
Thank you for the video! I appreciate your input. Looking to jump into using a holosun.
Thanks for the great info, as always!
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feels good to see another lefty
Great information !! Thank you !!
Good info. I definitely will be using this technique next time I hit the range. Great video 💯. Just subscribed keep up the great content
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At 63 I agree with your moving over to a red dot. That and a bunch of practice!
I love taking lessons from a navy seal
I am a decent shot with my Sig 226 with iron sights but a terrible shot with my Glock 17 with hand-sized groups. So I decided to invest in having my Glock 17 get an optic cut. I bought the Holosun 507C with ACSS Vulcan. I went from hand-sized groups to half-dollar-sized groups during my first shooting session with 100 rounds of ammo. I was amazed that my eyes adapted quickly to the new optic sighting system. It's a game-changer for me.
Is that at 1000 yards?
10,000 meters@@JeffreyRust-oq7rw
Pistol dots are the future. They are amazing once you adapt to them. Fast and accurate at distance on command is easy peasy after your Comfortable with it.
I agree. It’s taken me a few weeks to really adapt to them.
Thx for the video man ! My eyes are starting to get bad too lol so this is good timing and advice to nip it in the bud now while I still can train with it competently. But back to the topic at hand; I always noticed the digital reticles can easily disappear by just looking/holding at a slight angle in any direction damn near ; almost feels like the sensitivity to the cant is a bit more than say a rifle scope. But maybe I just need to jump in and try to learn from here. Sweet cant wait for ur next vids brother thx ! 🤘🔥
That’s why I run co witness or nothing outside of a 10 yard zero.
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I own both a Holosun 507C and a Holosun 515GM. Unlike the 515GM and the Trijicon RMRs... the 507C can't be adjusted without the special tool. However... the tube style 515GM and all Trijicon optics can be adjusted with the extractor lip of a spent shell. This is super handy, if for some reason your optic gets screwed up in the field. I'm not sure why Holosun didn't add the larger features to the 507C to enable this. It makes total sense.
Great information ..Go Navy!!!!!!
This was helpful, thank you!
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Excellent info. Thank you very much.
My carry is usually my CZ P-07 but I also like my Springfield Echelon. I haven't outfitted either of these with a red dot yet but have set up my Sig P-322 with a Holsun 407 just to get used to using a red dot and at 10 yards I find I've become more proficient at shooting with the red dot. My next step will most likely be my Echelon with a 507C. Thanks for the tips I got through setting up my Sig but will use these tips in the future.
the echelon is amazing
Great information Jason! Will be employing this methodology into my zero! Semper Fidelis Sailor!
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@Frogman Tactical hey Sailor I like you am a left handed shooter. I'm having one heck of a time finding good left handed optics/flashlight ready holsters any links you could point me towards? Love your channel keep passing the knowledge! S/F!
Really good vid supper simple👍🏾
Man you really hit a few key points when zeroing, like using the various distance and bring the right tool, *user manual.
Good stuff thank you sir!
I just got my holosun 507c x2. I'll be using this knowledge transfer to the range to zero it. Thank you Sir!
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Vulcan acss? I’ve got the Vulcan with the 105moa circle ⭕️ it’s a great concept and it helps if you’re in weird positions or newer to dots
I got 2 of the 507’s … love them…. Mine are at 25 yards
Just got one as well will be doing the same
Prefer red or green?
Thank you for the great video
Love your work sir, respect
Thank you. I’m about to launch series for more in depth training.
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Thanks, well explained, very useful vid.
Man again thank you so much for you free lessons .
I learning how shoot hand guns .
I'm 56 years old so I will set up the same sight on my gun god bless you also.
I did all the ballistics calculations based on the 124gr bullets I use... use a ballistic calculator. I found that a 7 yard zero gives me a +2 inches at 50 yards and a -2 inches at 100 yards. When you zero at 25 yards most 9mm bullets will be -10 inch to -16 inches at 100 yards. With my PMC 124gr FMJ cartridges I can put the dot on center A zone anywhere from 5 yards out to 100 yards and I’m in the A Zone +/-2inches from my dot. At a class at CTA in Piru CA on a break down by range 17 I started hitting the 8” steel gongs that are up in the hills with ease. When we range finded to them, they were 105 to 125 yards from where I was standing... I was just putting the dot on the steel.
Also with the standard circle and dot Holosun reticle, the 3 yard zero is exactly at the bottom hash mark of the circle when I zero at 7 yards. With the ACSS reticle, the 3 yard zero is at the bottom of the Chevron.
If I change the ammo I am using and the length of barrel then my zero will need to change. With my Glock 34 I need to zero at 9 yards with the holosun 507 to achieve the same results. Also different optics that have different height over bore will change where you zero.
Most interesting info I have found so far after watching many videos. Thanks!!
@@rich1958 ...I went down the rabbit hole after seeing Shawn Ryan’s video about the 36 yard zero for ARs. Got me thinking about possible non-standard zero for handguns and if any would be flatter out to 100 yards than a 15 or 25 yard zero. I’ll post the results I got for the handguns and optics I have if you are interested... definitely look up the ballistic info for the rounds you use with the optic you use and see what works best....
@@rich1958 ...UA-cam keeps deleting my posts with all the ballistics data. 🤷♂️. No idea what word in the post is flagging it, it’s mainly just numbers.
Thank you for all of the great detail that you included. This is what is needed to even come close to duplicating your results.
Nice shooting and excellent instructions, thanks.
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Thanks for the tips
Great idea 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I just got the Holosun 507 with the ACSS reticle. It’s awesome!!! I love it.
So far it’s a legit sight.
Same here, two days ago. I can't wait to zero it in but unfortunately we just got 10 to 12 in of snow dumped on us. So it may be awhile or I'm gonna have to make a 40 mile drive to the nearest indoor range. The optic looks awesome though.
@@danclas5983 does your weapon not work if it's cold outside?
@@danclas5983 ...one interesting thing to note, the Vulcan reticle 507C from primary arms comes “pre-zero’d” for 25 yards. When you put it on your gun it will be pretty close to zero, you’ll only have to adjust it a few clicks based on the ammo you are using.
Thank you frogman, just bought a red dot.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we all should keep in mind that if we're using the RD on our CC firearm that we need to zero with our defense ammo and not our social ammo.
Only at distance will it matter. That will be in the next video.
Why exactly does it matter if it's hollow point or fm j? If they're both the same grain your zero should be the same? Should it not?
@@jg9764 in theory I’d agree that the same grain bullet would land where your carry ammo would as well, but you never know until you test it. Another good reason to test your carry ammo at the range is to make sure it cycles properly and not assume it’ll run flawlessly.
@@jg9764 My only thing with hollow Vs defensive ammo and grain weight is that the defensive ammo is usually loaded to a hotter spec with more FPS and that might effect your POI. 165gr HST in .40 S&W is 1130 fps and the basic 165gr range ammo I about is noticeably slower. Same with the 180gr stuff.
Has he made made the video yet? If so what’s the title? Thanks
Great pick with the G48, it’s a great firearm. 👍🏻
Yes it is.
Awesome intel Chief..
Excellent info. Great point about diff manufacturers and R,L,U,D.
Your display of drop per distance holds great value in knowing shot placement on the fly.
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Excellent video. I'm transitioning to red dots myself due to my old eyes. I subscribed!
Great video God bless!
thank you so much!
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This literally changed my perspective on red dot zeroing. Im not the best at it. I have a Trijicon MRO on lay away now for work. This is definitely something that im putting in my toolbox. The unorthodox zeroing that I have seen for pistols just doesnt make sense to me. Co-witnessing does, you're not alway gonna be at the 25 yard line with the shot. The hold over is a thing, but its intimidating if youre behind the gun in a stressful situation. Without the million reps you need on the range, its a little sketchy. I know the hold over from rifle to pistol doesnt fully relate!'
Next video I’m laying out the zero’s on paper for everyone to see. It’s going to be interesting.
I recently zeroed my red dot, zeroing at 10 yards.I sat down at my range station, using my folded up "hoodie" for a shock absorber. I used a 6 bullseye target. I shot three rounds at a time, at the lower left target. My first three rounds were very low left . I over-corrected. My next three rounds went to the lower right target. My third and fourth groups were back on the lower left target. After a few more groups and adjustments, I placed my next group in the middle of the middle right bullseye and considered my red dot zeroed. Now, I have to work on my grip....
You’re jerking your trigger. Watch this video on trigger control.
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Like I said before I'm thinking about getting a optic but I still like iron sights better. I'll start training a little bit at a time when I get one.
This is an amazing video. Well taught! Thank you very much. By chance, where did you get that left IWB kydex holster? I am looking for one, and for lefty they are almost impossible to find.
Thank you.
Also a good idea to have someone help with zeroing who is a better shot than yourself. You can’t dial in a red dot if you can’t shoot to begin with!
Great zeroing process. Good tip using brass in the holes. Never thought of that.
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I just use a bore sighter before I go to the range, I have one off Amazon that stays on so I just line up the red dot to the red laser on the wall, I usually do it for about 15 yards
Does it work accurately for the zeros on the range?
I totally agree on the point of not carrying a red dot on a CCW gun until one is absolutely proficient incl. muscle memory and having in mind quality of your eyes/sight picture. I see that kids learn directly and only to shoot with red dots on rifles and handguns directly. But what if some unexpected happens to the optic and Murpheys law bumps in. The parallel training pf both is a great thing 👌🏻
Super precision shooters, like myself, not only shoot at the bottom of our breath... But also between heartbeats.
Thanks brother
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I had a rough day at range trying to 0 in 507kx2 on G43x. Makes me want to go back to irons where I have all the confidence in the world. Going to try your 7yrd start and go deeper
I'm going to be trying this same setup at the range as soon as I get time
Any updates? How did things eventually work out?
Just came from the range I had the same issue on my S&W 10mm. I figured that I’m flinching quite a bit and I was shooting off hand so I will need to bring a table, chair, and probably a rest so that I can be sure.
Thanks Very good info. Been with a 226 &228 for years. Now purchase a IWI Masada and the same Holosun going to start carry that because of my eyes. LoL. Thanks
Thank You
Great info!!! Holosun optics are zeroed in at 25yrds from the factory. I have a few and they are spot on out the box. Always confirm of course. I read the manual. 😉
Good to know! I’m getting one in two weeks.
How to know which holosun optic is best and suitable for your gun?
@@deepb249 the size of your pistol, the reticle size you want and reticle color.
This is great to know. I am planning to install one, Holosun 508T, and now, before doing any adjustments, I plan to see it at 25 yards.
I maybe wrong but from the looks of your grouping it’s spot on left to right . I think you should of adjusted the vertical base on how low the group was at 15 yards.
Excellent video.
Glad you liked it! 💯
Awesome and informational video bud! I had a question. What holster and red dot do you have on the G48?
Great Video Bro...
RLTW...
great video, new to dots as well... I just wish you would have shown the perspective thru the dot, and also what you did with the sight alignment.
Awesome stuff ✝️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️
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Nice holster
This video's a yr old Great content none the less. you mentioned your aging eyes and transitioning over to RDS, you may have already tried it out at this point but if not, I'd recommend you try a Green dot, something about the green really cleaned everything up for my eyes, especiallyif you have an astigmatism.. 💯👍🏼
I don’t know why but when I was sighting in my competition pistol with the holosun I had issues. My process normally was to use the bore laser first to get close @ 7 yards then I normally shoot offhand to finish sighting in. This time I decided to use a bench rest to take out any variables. I still don't understand why I had such crazy inconsistencies when using the rest vs offhand. I put the pic rail on the Y section and used my two hands to rest on the base pad. I had the barrel level with my hands and everything but I was very inconsistent.
Thank you for sharing.I see a pattern: You shoot pretty good. Any comments on using bore lasers for horizontal alignment?
Hi FrogMan - love your videos. My only wish was at 9:37 I was really hoping you'd explain to us the actual adjustments on the optic since you were hitting low and right. I have been confused as there's conflicting information online about moving your dot to the group or moving the group to your dot. Low and right - did you adjust it up and left? My thinking with those adjustments would move the dot up and left so even further away from the grouping. Sorry for the confusion!
Step one. Buy $10 laser bore sight. . Step 2 make the dot on your optic match the dot from the bore sight. You should probably check it, but it will be zero'd.
Zeroing from barrel isn’t 100% accurate but it’ll hit a human sized target 🤷🏾♂️
Great Vids Please keep them up. I have a Holosun 507K X2 on a SA HellCat 9mm, And have never got it work right with this set up, Even try a laser 9mm bullet, the best it does is high rt with it set full down lt, They tell me it is the gun, But with the iron sites It is right on, Please give me some of your thought.
One other suggestion: get a laser boresight system and use it. I picked up one that was relatively inexpensive and have used it on multiple handguns. After doing the laser boresight, every firearm has been dead on at the range.
I’m not too big on those. Haven’t had any luck with them however that was 10+ years ago.
@@frogmantactical Understood, and I wouldn't trust it without confirming everything at the range. And my system also has issues with any barrel shorter than about 4". The big thing is to make sure that, after you get a zero with the laser, you pull it out and rotate it 180 degrees, and then move the aimpoint halfway. Basically the same way we used to boresight Abrams tanks back in my much younger days.
And, if nothing else, it ensures I'm on the paper right from the get-go.
Your system (obviously) works too, and I expect you've got more experience with yours than I have with mine.
Thanks much for the video!
Good stuff
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Great instructional video. I own 3 Holosun, but I cheated. I used boresight lazer and range finder. Takes about 15 minutes in the back yard at dusk. Just match the dots and you are done. I set mine at 20 yards.
great video
Thanks!
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I just pick a distance (mine is 7 yards) and then put in my bore laser and match the dot to the laser. Then I know any movement is in my presentation or trigger control. The laser bullets are less than $20 shipped from Amazon.
Noobie question. I mean, this is the way I do it, but I could be wrong.
In order to isolate everything, I just use a bore sight, those ones that looks like an ammo, and than I zero the dot with the laser dot in the target to the distance that I want.
This way I guarantee that my dot is on top of the laser dot that is coming from the center of the barrel.
Definitely an option.
That's the way I do it as well and it save ammo too.
Just found the channel. Have you done one for sighting red dot on your rifle? Just getting into the ar platform and slowly learning.
I have always had great luck user a bore sight.
They are definitely an option.
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Did you co-witness the dot to the site first? Did you use a Lazer bore site first?
I may struggle a bit my local range is outdoor and only has 10yrds as the shortest distance I can go to put a target out
I usually zero my pistols at 15 but i put a 1" circle on the target so i have a precise aiming spot. I'm thinking about changing my zero to 10 tho but with a 15 yard zero it is zeroed around 50 yards also so that is why i picked 15 so you can just aim at the a zone and hit in the a zone from 1 to 50 yards without worrying about your off set other than precise shot placement.
Agreed. Most are solid out to 50.
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How often are shooting out to 50yds with a handgun? I’m getting back in to pistol shooting with my new 10mm that I’m hiking with. I usually only target shoot to out 10 maybe 15yds max. I can’t imagine a 50yd shot with confidence.
I got my Holosun 507k the other day and noticed the dot was way out of whack out of the box. When I look to find the reticle and once I center it, the optic is pretty crooked. I haven’t put it in the gun yet. Is that normal?
When your saying “you are cowtinessed” are you referring to your Dot being co-witnessed with your irons ? And then you make the elevation adjustment ?
Can you put the link up or send for the tool you use for adjustments? Thanks. Great video.
one training class the instructor suggested i go with a red dot because I'm far sighted. Tried orange front sight first. Tried reddot and now all my pistols have them. HIGE improvement
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