Good comparison video. Keep in mind MOA (minute of angle) does not change at different distances. It is a measure of angle. What you meant to say is that the adjustment equals 1/2 or 1/4 inch at 100 and 50 yards respectively. These budget RD's just keep getting better and better.
The Vortex is on a Midwest Industries riser mount, it is way more beefier with two massive bolts, rather than the other two with a single and smaller bolt
Thanks for this rundown! Also excellent note on the mounts. I was just assuming the factory mount would be good but no recoil lug on an AR is clearly a weak point. Maybe you could post some links to the mounts with the right footprint for these optics that you like in the comments? There are like a million options out there and it's hard to choose. I will check out the reptilia brand you mentioned for sure.
For the money the Sight Mark Wolverine is Amazing. It is built like a tank. Motion activated 50,000 Hour run time on a single AA Battery and a lifetime warranty all for $100.00 bucks. This is my choice all day. The Sig Sauer Romeo 7 is also amazing, but it is big. 62,500 hours of continuous use on a single AA battery on medium setting. Motion activated. 2 MOA dot comes with a high mount and a low mount and just $200.00 perfection on an AR. I like the AA Battery aspect because in a SHTF situation AA battery can be found just about anywhere.
@@Kghost0311the 5 in my opinion is much more crisp, the Romeo 7s is nice but in a darker setting, you can see a red ring around the glass, which is many people’s complaint on the red dot. But the upside to the 7s is the availability of finding the batteries for it and the 50,000 hr battery life. It will probably last longer since it’s motion activated also.
@tyaj694 thanks I'm having a hard time deciding which one to go with. The battery, like you say, makes me want to use the 7s but I do want a decent daytime dot.
Thanks for this comparison. I was split between the Sig and the Holosun, and I finally made a decision. Now I just need to decide if the multi-reticle on the 503r is worth the $50 premium over the 403r 😆
@I_Did_That_46 thanks for watching! Glad I could help! I have the vortex AMG with their donut of death reticle and like it. But no experience with it on a smaller optic. If you get it let us know how you like it.
I have a few of the Holosun’s with the circle dot and I think they are to busy and have them all set on the 2 moa dot only. The circle dot is a nice clean “reticle” but completely unnecessary and almost in the way and distracting.
I ended up going 403r but for my next build I did the 515gm with HM3X magnifier, they are both an excellent product. I do however like the added features you get with holosun's flagship tube red dot
The 403r is rotary knob and on or off no shake awake. But 100,000 hrs is like 10 years so doesn’t really matter there is no shake awake(one less thing to fail in my opinion) I’ve had mine on for over 4 years on setting 7 and still on original battery.
Almost every Holosun has shake awake but the HS403R is meant to compete directly with the Aimpoint T2 at a cheaper price of course. That’s what I personally love about the HS403R, simple 2 moe dot with nothing fancy to go wrong or not work.
You forgot the Primary Arms Advanced 30mm RDS. Better than all 3. No shake awake, but it is the most durable with the best ergonomics, IMO, although the Sightmark Wolverine is pretty good too! (I have all 3 RDS you're reviewing.) Those 3 didn't last long (durability) compared to the other 2 I mentioned, for me!
@RobertMcCandless-nr7cv I miss spoke in regards to MOA yes. (I realize that now) but the click value does change when the target is moved from 100yards to 50, or whatever your preferred zero distance might be.
@jefferyboring4410 I think it depends on the size of the bolt. The typical t15 is not ideal and depends on your zero distance. It might be good at 50yards but then how does it do as you shoot out to greater distances. But also when mounting to the rail you need to push the optic forward toward the muzzle.
@deancarrier124 I’m using the Reptilia t2 1/3 height mount on the Holosun. And the Midwest industries t2 1/3 height on the vortex. I can confirm both have had a return to zero for me. Only downside to the Midwest industries is you have to slide it onto the rail (can’t drop it on) so that mean removing iron sights or anything else that might be in the way.
Thanks my friend you helped this very old man out!! I never used one, im a big game hunter, so rifle scopes are ny bag plus a long rabge shooter. However on the rance here i bought a ruger pc 9mm i like the Holson very much Thanks young man you can hunt with me any day for real, my young men come out and help me kill coyotes and hogs on my ranch in Texas. If you live in Texas hit me up ! Thanks again for your insights. 😊
@cowboywoodard2569 thanks for watching! And I’m glad I could help! I don’t live in Texas but I hear hog hunting is a blast down there. I’ll remember if I ever find a chance to get there though!
@paul2532 There’s a lot of good sites you can find them on sale at times. I wouldn’t recommend Amazon. I’ve heard/seen a decent amount of people get fakes out of there. Pretty much at this point though if you pay more than $125 you’re paying too much and not comparing sites.
@@Gristle111 Change the battery in every optic on the same day of each year for security's sake. Either on your birthday, Christmas, MLK Jr. day, whatever. Choose a day you'll normally have the time to do it on.
In regard to the 403r, 100,000 hours is over 10 years. Mine has been on in my truck on setting 6 for 4 years.
Good comparison video. Keep in mind MOA (minute of angle) does not change at different distances. It is a measure of angle. What you meant to say is that the adjustment equals 1/2 or 1/4 inch at 100 and 50 yards respectively.
These budget RD's just keep getting better and better.
The Sig Sauer Romeo 5 is one of my favorite budget optics.
Great video man, it was nice to see the 3 lined up and how much brighter that Holosun is
Sig Romeo 5, i have several, excellent Optic.
I have some troy industries flip up sights, would the romeo 5 do a absolute cowitness on my ar?
The Vortex is on a Midwest Industries riser mount, it is way more beefier with two massive bolts, rather than the other two with a single and smaller bolt
Very good review, Holosun seems to get high marks regardless of who trials them against competitors. Thanks!
I prefer the dials over clumsy push button feature. Have had Vortex Crossfires on 2 carbines and satisfied with them.
Romeo shake to wake is really nice and works every time..
The Romeo 5 torture test is insane!!!
It’s a no brainier! Hands down HOLOSUN.
The big, red in your face DOT of the Holosun was the deciding factor for me.
Thanks for this rundown! Also excellent note on the mounts. I was just assuming the factory mount would be good but no recoil lug on an AR is clearly a weak point. Maybe you could post some links to the mounts with the right footprint for these optics that you like in the comments? There are like a million options out there and it's hard to choose. I will check out the reptilia brand you mentioned for sure.
For the money the Sight Mark Wolverine is Amazing. It is built like a tank. Motion activated 50,000 Hour run time on a single AA Battery and a lifetime warranty all for $100.00 bucks. This is my choice all day. The Sig Sauer Romeo 7 is also amazing, but it is big. 62,500 hours of continuous use on a single AA battery on medium setting. Motion activated. 2 MOA dot comes with a high mount and a low mount and just $200.00 perfection on an AR. I like the AA Battery aspect because in a SHTF situation AA battery can be found just about anywhere.
I also forgot, it takes a 2032 battery as well, but if it senses light it will automatically run from light source
Thanks for this very helpful video. I was shopping for a new red dot.
I like vortex’s warranty but holosun is better made and works better
I LOVE THE SIG ROMEO5
Sig Romeo 5 and 7s all day
Which has a more crisp and visible dot?
@@Kghost0311the 5 in my opinion is much more crisp, the Romeo 7s is nice but in a darker setting, you can see a red ring around the glass, which is many people’s complaint on the red dot. But the upside to the 7s is the availability of finding the batteries for it and the 50,000 hr battery life. It will probably last longer since it’s motion activated also.
@tyaj694 thanks I'm having a hard time deciding which one to go with. The battery, like you say, makes me want to use the 7s but I do want a decent daytime dot.
For the price, they cant be beat. I have 2.
What mount do you have for the crossfire?
Thanks for this comparison. I was split between the Sig and the Holosun, and I finally made a decision. Now I just need to decide if the multi-reticle on the 503r is worth the $50 premium over the 403r 😆
@I_Did_That_46 thanks for watching! Glad I could help! I have the vortex AMG with their donut of death reticle and like it. But no experience with it on a smaller optic. If you get it let us know how you like it.
I have a few of the Holosun’s with the circle dot and I think they are to busy and have them all set on the 2 moa dot only. The circle dot is a nice clean “reticle” but completely unnecessary and almost in the way and distracting.
I ended up going 403r but for my next build I did the 515gm with HM3X magnifier, they are both an excellent product. I do however like the added features you get with holosun's flagship tube red dot
are you sure holosun sheik away? I’ve bought several holosun and never had one that didn’t have shaker week.
The 403r is rotary knob and on or off no shake awake. But 100,000 hrs is like 10 years so doesn’t really matter there is no shake awake(one less thing to fail in my opinion) I’ve had mine on for over 4 years on setting 7 and still on original battery.
Almost every Holosun has shake awake but the HS403R is meant to compete directly with the Aimpoint T2 at a cheaper price of course. That’s what I personally love about the HS403R, simple 2 moe dot with nothing fancy to go wrong or not work.
You forgot the Primary Arms Advanced 30mm RDS. Better than all 3. No shake awake, but it is the most durable with the best ergonomics, IMO, although the Sightmark Wolverine is pretty good too! (I have all 3 RDS you're reviewing.) Those 3 didn't last long (durability) compared to the other 2 I mentioned, for me!
Wheres your vid proving these points. I saw a romeo5 get shot with a shotgun and work
Cap.
@@samabinguap8303 Yes, Bucky? What is it? 🎯 Stop throwing darts at me, Bucky!
Sig Romeo 5 all day long.
I have had many Holosun’s since 2017 and only had 1 act up and they replaced it no questions asked.
the vortex is really nice
Where did you get the high mounts?
they come with high and low in box
I have some troy industries flip up sights, would the romeo 5 do a absolute cowitness on my ar?
@aquaticlives2948 with the standard mount it comes with, Yes it should cowitness perfectly.
@@3200ish awesome! Thank you! How can i know forsure? Would i need to look at measurements?
I question your MOA analogy!
@RobertMcCandless-nr7cv I miss spoke in regards to MOA yes. (I realize that now) but the click value does change when the target is moved from 100yards to 50, or whatever your preferred zero distance might be.
Great vid subd🙌🏼
@supreme_sergio7742 awesome! Thanks for watching!
Does the gen 2 Romeo5 have a better mount?
much much better mount! they copied reptilia
The bolt is the recoil lug pull back on it as u tighten it up. I can take my 19$ Amazon dot on and off all day and it’ll hit on spot
@jefferyboring4410 I think it depends on the size of the bolt. The typical t15 is not ideal and depends on your zero distance. It might be good at 50yards but then how does it do as you shoot out to greater distances. But also when mounting to the rail you need to push the optic forward toward the muzzle.
what mounts did you use?
@deancarrier124 I’m using the Reptilia t2 1/3 height mount on the Holosun.
And the Midwest industries t2 1/3 height on the vortex. I can confirm both have had a return to zero for me. Only downside to the Midwest industries is you have to slide it onto the rail (can’t drop it on) so that mean removing iron sights or anything else that might be in the way.
Thanks my friend you helped this very old man out!! I never used one, im a big game hunter, so rifle scopes are ny bag plus a long rabge shooter. However on the rance here i bought a ruger pc 9mm i like the Holson very much Thanks young man you can hunt with me any day for real, my young men come out and help me kill coyotes and hogs on my ranch in Texas. If you live in Texas hit me up ! Thanks again for your insights. 😊
@cowboywoodard2569 thanks for watching! And I’m glad I could help! I don’t live in Texas but I hear hog hunting is a blast down there. I’ll remember if I ever find a chance to get there though!
Where is best place to get sig romeo 5
@paul2532 There’s a lot of good sites you can find them on sale at times. I wouldn’t recommend Amazon. I’ve heard/seen a decent amount of people get fakes out of there. Pretty much at this point though if you pay more than $125 you’re paying too much and not comparing sites.
Don’t bother trying Brownell’s they will promise 10% if you submit your email then tell you that it does not apply to this brand!
@paul2532
Academy sports
Guaranteed to be real
129$
@@K.Miller5150just got the romeo 5 from Academy it's much brighter than the crossfire
I’ve been getting good deals on Amazon. Just bought the Sig Romeo 5 for $111.00!
The Holoson dot looks the best but it doesn't offer a automatic motion sensor. That's a automatic deal breaker
It's interesting as my holosun does have a motion sensor. Not sure why his doesn't.
Just leave it on and change the 2$ battery every 5 years
@@Gristle111 Change the battery in every optic on the same day of each year for security's sake. Either on your birthday, Christmas, MLK Jr. day, whatever. Choose a day you'll normally have the time to do it on.
I think the battery is sufficient，because 100000 working hours。
That is a good odea@@workingguy-OU812
The Sig is manufactured by Holosun.
manufactured by holosun but they use sig specs; ,i believe how it goes
Cv life for the win. Flashlight also
I would never recommend that designed and built in China Amazon stuff
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Well i call it the ARAK 17 😂
The cyelee t10 beats all of them