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It'd be great if you had time stamps for each points.
I love my job. I don’t dread getting up in the morning. However I also love coming home at the end of the day and taking vacations.
A very balanced situation I must say!! Great to know! Keep it up!
1) if you have 50% of the skills required on the job description, apply! You may have a manager who is willing to train.
2)practice, practice, practice answering behavioural questions everyday of your job search.
3) if you do have a job, be genuinely nice to everyone, especially people in your age range. You never know how these relationships can affect your future opportunities. That person who is now a coordinator could become a manager in 5 years and be the gateway to an awesome job.
4) don’t share too much of your personal life to colleagues. A person you may be too open with today can become a different person in 3 years and may use what you shared to get ahead.
5) linkedin is your friend. Use it wisely, it will save you should you lose your job unexpectedly.
1) if you have 50% of the skills required on the job description, apply! You may have a manager who is willing to train.
Boy are you out of the loop, now that rarely ever happens, you have to have had an internship or some sort of job experience before because they will overlook you in a heart beat.
Please. Naive, much? 1. First, and most importantly, *NO ONE* looks at "all" the resumes anymore, if they ever did. That is BS, spewed by companies who don't want to lose the very best prospects. Nearly all companies use some sort of computer screening software, which is used to screen all those web applications. If you don't meet a predefined amount of the qualifications, the computer doesn't even spit out a resume (or even name) to HR. I would be *shocked* if that limit isn't upwards of 80%, and I would not be surprised if it's 100% for certain low-level jobs. *Then* an HR person looks at the first fifty (at most) computer-screened resumes, and screens again, frequently a phone screen, or even an in-person screen. The top five resumes go to the hiring manager, who is allowed to interview two or three, at most.
There are people out there who say, "networking will get you there", but no, it won't. *If* the company allows for employee referrals, your resume *might* end up in the fifty that get screened by a human, but if you don't have the qualifications/experience of the other resumes, you will NOT make the HR cut. You also won't make the cut if they only hire from certain schools that isn't your school, or if they require a GPA you don't have, unless your resume comes from on high. And if you think your three unpaid internships will matter more than the HR person's niece's husband, or the CEO's kid, think again.
2) No one has time to train anymore. If you train, you have to justify to your boss why so much of your time is non-productive. Furthermore, your boss may have *no idea* how to do the job you are applying for, and *can't* train you. That's why they are *hiring.*
3) I owned my own business at one time, and I trained my employees straight out of school. I stopped doing it when I realized that only the very best of them took less than twenty hours a week for six weeks to train. I billed hourly, so this was money directly out of my pocket.
3A) Also, NONE of them stayed. They came to my firm specifically for the training, and then some other company would hire them, usually at 12-18 months (I paid above market wages, fourteen paid holidays and two weeks vacation, but larger companies offered benefits I couldn't possibly match). One firm hired *three* of my 'trained from the ground up' employees in under 18 months. When the guy called for a reference on the third one, he laughed about it--"I see here this is the third employee we've hired from you recently! And the other two are *great.* No wonder we hired this one without a call back interview!" (Laughs uproariously).
My point here is, this is what people without training want--to get training and move on for better pay/benefits--and don't think the hiring person doesn't know it. People I train myself invariably make better employees--they haven't picked up stupid bad habits, they work harder, they appreciate the opportunity, they spot silly inefficiencies, and once trained, they are incredibly efficient. But it is just not worth it to spend all that time on a person you *know* won't stay, because they can get better pay and benefits elsewhere once they are trained. They might love you, but when someone headhunts them and offers them a 401(k) with six percent match, paid insurance and family leave, PTO, and three weeks vacation, plus a twenty percent raise for all that "experience", they *will* leave. It's an offer they can't refuse, and if they did refuse it, you would have to question their intelligence. If I was hiring today, I'd just poach someone from a small company.
4. I'm not even going to get into the "temp" market, which is effectively the new employee underclass.
@@MeowMeow-sy2mi Actually, it *can,* and *does,* hurt.
1. As I noted in another post in this thread, the person applying is wasting their own valuable time, since the resume/application of a 50% qualified person won't even make it out of the computer at a big firm. In my observation, a real application in a web form takes an hour or more. That's a lot of time to waste that you will never get back, and could be better used making yourself better qualified or finding a job that is a better fit.
2. At a very small firm (under 25 employees), where someone may actually *look* at all the resumes, you risk them remembering you wasting *their* time when they move to another firm, and ignoring you altogether. Your name, for example, is memorable. Or, they might just remember you as someone who has been on the market for a long time (also bad).
3. You also risk big and small firms flagging your name in their database as someone unqualified and never being considered at that company again.
4. Depending on your career, most professions are quite small, and people talk. Even if your profession is fairly large, in any given locality, most people in the profession know, or know of, the best and the worst in the area. They hear the stories, and this includes resumes.
5. What if you *do* get an interview? Then what? "I promise I'll work harder than anyone else" is only a strategy in the movies. Oh, wait, no! It's not a strategy *anywhere.* It's a *plot device.* Then you piss off the *interviewer* for wasting *their* time.
yaya14ever y the first bit always made me uncomfortable cause I always want to make sure I have at least 80% of the job description. I think I removed myself from a lot of opportunities because of that. Then I heard that men go for any opportunities even if they’re 60% sure they have the skills for it. Time for me to step my confidence game up! Fake it till you make it 😂
#4 is so hard, because people can socialize at work.
I had a great internship at a major tech company. The first thing my boss said to me was “don’t feel like you have to drink if you don’t want to.” She was an amazing mentor.
Lauren Conrad You got lucky I got pick on for not drinking I’m not a fan of alcohol and being Asian makes it more difficult due to Asian flush
May Sal Wow. Funny enough, my boss was Asian. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.
Lauren Conrad you’re very lucky, my mentor forced alcohol on me everyday!
NaturOlivia oh man that’s awful, especially if you’re not into it.
In some countries in Asia (South Korea I think) drinking is cutomary a part of the corporate culture - e.g drinking with colleagues every day after work and etc. So there is definitely a big peer pressure to drink in these cultures.
SO TRUE when you said that 'they probably have a shit ton of money or family in the field' I was like finally someone said it. Some ppl have a head start in their career... success is still possible regardless but I'm so glad you said it straight up
Like finally? Is that english?
@@age_of_reason could you read it? Probably English then.
That's "metric shit ton of money" or alternatively "have money spewing out every orifice".
Oh, totally agree with you girl 💟🙌 I always hear ppl saying they reached this and that and I suddenly feel like I m a shit who didn't reach much but what I didn't realized is that I wasn't born in the same financial situation as them. I mean you can still reach out many beautiful things even if you were born poor if you put passion, effort and why not also luck. But generally ppl can't do that cause they need to help their families out or even struggle with money at the end of the month. I was born in a very crowded family with few money and no rich acquaintances. I swear I put a lot of effort everyday and yeh I m proud of my life even if it doesn't mean being a singer on a stage XD 💟
I knew so many "entrepreneurs" in NYC that I am pretty sure their businesses consistently lost money, but had rich parents that funded it because they would burn less money that way.
I really appreciate you showing the actual practical knowledge of life , I am 20 years old and all I see on social media is "run for your passion" "a job will get you nothing" "follow your heart and your job will be a vacation "
like seriously I was so tired to read those motivational quotes whereas the reality of life is something else. I cannot take history as subject right now cause my focus is to be independent financially as soon as possible though I love reading history
its just that people should understand that "nothing lasts forever" applies in career too, the job which gets you excited today might make you frustrated tomorrow
The "never work a day in your life," and "follow your passion, and money will follow" really made me feel like a sellout for not being "true to myself" and working somewhere that was directly connected to my personal interests. I'm 28, so when I entered the work force this wasn't really a thing, but after a few years I began to feel like everything I did needed to be a step in this fantasy career trajectory that I was methodically pursuing. I'm so happy she addressed these things in the video.
I went to law school and was surrounded with highly ambitious people, and I never saw any one of my friends from school post anything like that on any social media. Ever. It was amazing
Before trying to follow your passoin, you need to ask yourself a few questions. Questions like: Do people want to pay for my passion? Are they prepared to pay enough for it comapred to how much it costs me? Could you actually make a living doing this? Am I actually good enough at your passion? How compedative is the market? Is there even a market worth talking about?
eizhowa post anything like what on social media?
I am a cosplayer as a hobby, and I was reading an interview with a woman who sews cosplay costumes for a living. She says she gets asked a lot by young cosplayers how did she make her hobby her job, and telling her it must be awesome. She says that, although she does love what she does and now she has a huge workshop with several employees, there is a lot more to worry about when you are your own boss. She has to think of all the administrative stuff first (payroll, insurances for employees and her workplace, rent, finances) before she can even concentrate on creating anything. She said very few people have the discipline to actually follow a career path like that, thinking that it would be ‘so cool’ to have their own workshop and make costumes for a living, but the reality is that you don't get as much free time as you would working for someone else. Anything that goes wrong with the business is your responsibility to figure out, etc.
I like my job, really enjoy it, but it's probably not my biggest passion. I dedicate myself, work hard, and now I have money to really enjoy my true passions outside of work. It's very fulfilling, and it keeps you going as a motivation, even if you are in a job that might not be all glamorous.
Thank you so much for the part where you said that parents' wealth is a crucial factor. It's something that is not enough said.
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I shared the "do what you love" and "follow your passion" advice with my dad after I'd first heard them. He snorted and told me that there was no quicker way to start to hate what I loved and lose my passion than doing them for a living. This is a man who loves what he does (public relations for the Air Force and retired after 30 years and now does it for another branch of the federal government) but came to it after he'd been doing it for years. It is not his passion and he wouldn't do it if they didn't pay him.
Do NOT become “besties” with a coworker or add coworkers on social media. Just don’t.
After you leave the job? Yes! That’s great. During? Oh no. People talk. Keep those boundaries and be professional.
Agree. Learned this the hard way.
My dad always says that making your hobby your job will make you dislike your hobby since it'll, you know, not be a hobby anymore, which is good counter advice to that "find a job you love you'll never work a day in your life" advice. Not of course that my brother or I really buy that, but whatever.
Some people find that to be true and others don't.
A better maxim regarding the loving your job is, "If you enjoy the work you do, it will reflect in the quality of your work."
That's a very good maxim!
That's not necessarily true either. I put in work to prove my worth and not get fired.
P0k3D0nd3M4cG True, you can put a lot of time, effort, and quality into work you don’t like or truly want to do, but most people will feel more motivated to do that if they like what they do. Speaking from personal experience, while I put a lot of effort into all of my school work, it’s easier to do so for subjects that I really love, such as art and business.
While I don't think that's always true, I still think its part-truth. I think you will naturally like better doing things you are more or less good at. And maybe being passionate versus being just OK slightly alters how you work, even if its not fully intentional or conscious. When it comes to creative things like painting or writing the quality is a lot more dependent on your mood and passion than in most other jobs. You can do menial labor when not in the mood without it really affecting quality, but with creativity its more like you somehow lack the innate ability to do it (properly and with sense of what is good) if you aren't in the right mind at the moment. For things that take a lot of thinking skill you may think clearer if you do not hate every moment of it.
Amen to your comments on "Jobs you never love should never feel like work" -- I have many friends who are musicians, or artists or even have an affinity for working on cars, and have tried making a living off of this and have ended up miserable. Hobbies are hobbies for a reason, they make you happy because it's something you enjoy in your spare time. When you cross that boundary and it becomes a full-time job it can actually kill the reasons you love it and squash your creativity completely.
I love your channel but I think the piece of advice implied at the beginning - to add more interests and activities to your resume - is not great, and disproportionally helps priveleged people. If I had a child at an early age, I wouldn't necessarily have time for volunteer activities. Equally true if I have any sort of disabilities that mean my work takes more time and prevents me from supporting my interests. It's very similar to unpaid internships - making these a prerequisite to employment means you'll be hiring people who are already wealthy.
I have the problem of coming from a workers family with little money. To show interesting things for your resume you need money - which I never had. That's one part of what makes it so hard to get out of the "working class" into the academic world.
Agreed. As a disabled person, I don’t have any hobbies that could strengthen my resume. Choosing someone for their hobbies rather than their work experience is just unfair.
@@ayellowpapercrown6750 I know how you feel. I'm disabled, and I'm also a single mum. I don't have time to go out and volunteer or spend hours on complicated projects. If I'm not working my day job, I'm usually either doing laundry, cleaning my house, looking after my daughter, or otherwise spending time with her.
Volunteering is great, but requiring it isn't on. People might not want to talk about their caring responsibilities or family life, because it's very personal. In the industry I work in, having that experience is an advantage. If I was wanting to be an investment banker, I imagine it wouldn't be so advantageous.
As someone who reads resumes and hires; you're fine. I think that is terrible advice...I don't give a crap if you volunteer or have a hobby. In fact, if you put it on your resume, I typically think you don't have enough work experience to feel confident you're qualified for the position. It often feels like filler to me. Your election as president of the fraternity doesn't show leadership skills like you might think; it shows you've never had a leadership role in your work/career so you had to mention it elsewhere. I very much feel that if it isn't related to the position to which you are applying it should not be on your resume. And most hiring managers I know agree.
Exactly. I have a medical (invisible) disability. If I don’t have a litany of things I like to do, it’s because working, keeping my personal life running smoothly, and occasional socializing use up my energy.
Sitting in my office, stacking labels for the production floor because there was a machine/operator error and we have a customer order due to ship today, loved hearing "don't be afraid to do things outside of your job description"! The health of the team and the company will equal better security for myself and colleagues. Yes, this is "below my pay grade" but no, I'm not too good to help.
its better to help out for tasks like this. if you act like you are too good for a task, people remember resentment like this.
To those of you who like shorter videos, we have great news for you! Starting in January, we have a second weekly show coming where each episode is three minutes long! Can't wait to share it with you guys. :)
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The Financial Diet I like the longer video!!!
Great news! Can't wait to see more content from TFD 😀
I like long videos!
Sounds good! I kind of like the idea of this show being a podcast sometimes. I tend to put this content on in the background.
Personally I love the nuanced, thought out, longer videos, so I'm glad we can have both!
I just love the realist perspective from this channel especially in a “everyone is an entrepreneur!” internet culture we live in today.
As an extreme Introvert working in customer service, it gives me comfort hearing that it's okay not to go to work social things... :)
I focused on making my two bosses look good from day one at every job. I’ve gone from part time college student working retail to full time specialist paralegal editor for email and escalations, and BA and MFA duel student who was lead of marketing on our largest income generating publication line during my MFA. I did this within 2 years. Why, because I made my bosses look good and they wanted me to have more responsibility because they trusted me.
Best advice ever, Chelsea! 🥰
I've recently realised that I've been killing myself with stress by subconsciously trying to make my career into my main creative outlet. You're right that it's very unhealthy and doesn't lead to right choices or happiness. I've become more frustrated than ever and have so little energy after work that I'm unable to develop any hobbies or spend time with family and friends.
Instead of "Follow you passion and you'll never work a day in your life" I prefer to say "Do what you care about and you doing the work will be worth it."
Very important video for me. I always told myself, "If I'm not happy with what I'm doing job wise, then it's not worth me being there". I do believe that to an extent, but I've quit so many jobs (that I probably shouldn't have) because I didn't like what I was doing that day. What I've learned in law school is I will not like everything I do especially since I plan to practice corporate law, but to be happy with at least 80%.
While I agree with 90% this, I also believe it applies to 90% of people. In other words, it's realistic expectations for the majority of people. The truth is, if some people didn't follow their passions or enjoy their work to the point where they'd do it for free, then we wouldn't have a lot amazing companies, products, services, etc. I still believe those daring (and able) enough to not settle, should.
This is why there are motivational speakers that represent their interests.
OMG - this video is badly needed! I wish more people were interested in your topics. The first advice is on point! I, for my part, never go out drinking with my boss or co-workers. It‘s plain unprofessional!
I'm the same way. Even at Networking events I don't drink much. I made that mistake my first true networking event I went to where they had an open bar. I had 3 drinks so I wasn't drunk, but I talked about how they had an open bar instead of talking about the projects I was working on. Now I might have one very low alcohol drink and then switch to water or sometimes Shirley temples because it makes you look like you're drinking, but you are completely sensible and they taste so good.
Ehh if you’re a light weight girl who can’t hold her liquor and get retarded from a few cocktails then yes don’t do it.
victoria hale 1. I never drink alcohol! I have my reasons I won‘t put online!
2. why assuming only „light weight women“ can‘t handle it? men are worst
3. as I never drink, I see how people change the way they talk, the topics they talk about! you don‘t need to stumble or babble, but people lose all their suspension- its awful!
Why do people NEED alcohol? Why? Believe me, even one small drink gets people‘s tongue lose and it‘s always ugly! All they get from me is the side-eye. Especially when they are driving afterwards- THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS STUPIDITY!
And don‘t forget- its WORK! people will remember your hard work, not drinking skills!
Matt Schwartz Matt Schwartz If my choices makes someone feel bad about themselves, or feel like I think that am better than they are, then thats their problem, they were never confident in themselves to begin with, and I wouldn't change myself just to make them feel better about their choices. And you can socialize with your co-workers and get to know them without alcohol, you will probably remember more about them if your mind was clear.
jazmeen04 so are you saying that I’ve been taking a quick snort of cocaine just to make my coworkers feel more comfortable around me for the wrong reasons? That’s just mean, man! 😆
I always enjoy your videos including the length of them. To me, its nice to see well scripted and researched content as opposed to a lot of the off the cuff jargon for 4-5 minutes that doesn't add any value.
Paige Evans haha the shade of it all
Paige Evans well of course...are there others who do it that way?
The problem with below your pay grade tasks take away from what your supposed to be doing at your job, cleaning the floors or working in the warehouse won't help when your job is a designer or sales person
I agree to an extent; for example, where I work we have a copy center. If I stand in there and copy documents for 2 hours, that's 2 hours I could actually be doing work they pay me to do. However, if I help out another secretary when I don't have to, that is sometimes noticed and adds up at bonus time. :)
Trish Doran good point helping out can definitely can help in the future
It's picking what below your pay grade task you take on! Don't ever clean the bathrooms!
Lol yes!
In my opinion, the below your pay grade tasks aren't necessarily for getting ahead, but to keep you from appearing to believe that you're better than some people. And below your pay grade is relative to what your pay grade is. Sweeping the office could be deemed to be below the pay grade of a secretary, where making your own copies could be considered below the pay grade of a CEO. Within reason of course, I don't think anyone should ever feel like they're above doing tasks that they either did before to get where they are, or have never done and therefore can't empathize with their employees who do. Especially when in leadership, nothing helps you to build a better relationship with your subordinates than them knowing that if it came down to it, you'd be willing to go into the trenches with them. And it pays off, because if your employees genuinely respect you, it usually takes very little, if any effort at all to motivate them. Your best interest will be equally important to them as it is to you, and they will be motivated by the relationship they have with you. I acknowledge that this may not always be the case, but in my experience (as a leader and a subordinate) this approach seemed to have worked.
I am currently struggling at my job where someone gives bad/good advice. Then this old school person gets upset when I start to get paranoid with the seeds planted. Please be leery who you trust at work....No everyone wants you win unfortunately ....
Paige Bostick - not sure how it's going still, but after a while, you realize that everyone is biased when giving advice. And even the best person can give poor advice. However, while you're free (and recommended) to take the advice with a grain of salt, never ever mention that grain to the person who gave the advice. Doing so is a surefire way to lose some relationship points.
"find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life" is pretty outlandish yes, but I always understood it as finding something you enjoy to ease the daily grind. I don't understand how anyone can hate the phrase, if someone finds it inspirational to get a job that they enjoy then why not? it doesn't mean don't work hard
Yeah, it's basically saying don't feel like you need to become a banker when your passion´lies in science, not become a photographer if you enjoy photography.
Often the people doing the work they love work all the harder.
@@rurugby True. I decided to work my passion, work very long hours and am often stressed out but I genuinely enjoy and at times go crazy with excitement over what I do.
@@briannafranklin8263 that's so awesome. I've been doing office work for 15 years and hate it. I'd love to wake up excited about my work day.
I think the main point of the critism was that the phrase, "you'll never work a day in your life" obfuscates the fact that even jobs you love will have parts of it that are hard and unenjoyable. Plus it's unrealistic for a lot of people to pursue their passions. In my view I saw her critism as saying, doing what you love may work but it has its limitations and downsides.
Great job. I couldn't agree more on that last point. When I was in high school it was really stressing me out to hear all this advise about following your passion and loving your job, because I didn't have a favorite subject or big passion to follow and I felt like I was gonna pick wrong and be miserable. Then I had this big realization that ok, a lot of people hate their job, but that doesn't mean they're miserable 24/7, that even when I had classes that I hated I still was happy about other things, all of this stuff's just one part of life. So, that helped me calm down some.
So now I'm going into Social Work, which I think few people think of as a dream job, but it's something that's right for me. Like no, it's not a super crazy fun job, but it's one where I can get a lot out of it and feel good about what I'm doing, which is really what I'm looking for.
I don't think that's what is necessarily meant "Find a job that you love and you'll never work a day in your life." I think it means find a
job you feel you're made for as opposed to work you dread doing. I heartily believe in this advice which I experienced in my own life. So many people are about what makes the most money instead of what job fits who they are the most. Make yourself the priority, not the money.
Yeah people take that too literally, and don't at all understand what it means.
Exactly! The phrase isn’t supposed to mean “If you struggle for 0.00000001 seconds at work isn’t not the right job” it means “find a job that doesn’t make you want to kill your self”
Please do more video on HR stuff I struggle at an interview so much
May Sal try Linda raynier channel (if I'm not mistaken at writing her name)
I had the chance to do my hobby for living... I did this for a few months and then I started to hate everything about it :( Now I'm looking for a new job, meanwhile I do my hobby at home only for me - and I really started to love it again
Sameee, just got a job
Great video!! I laughed at proficient in excel, however i landed my first job with that one. And it forced me to learn how to use it properly. Im loving this channel
This is all great advice, You are speaking the truth on everything. I graduated college in 2010, and since working going on 8 years plus I have learned all of these things. Esp. on that the world is changing and you have to open to changing skill sets. It's so different from when our Parents went to school. Definitely never lie on your resume' or over exaggerate it. That's important. I learning to be open to change.
Thank you so much for making this video! I am about to go to college this fall and I have been stressing about choosing a career that I might want to do in the future. Every advice I got on the internet was usually about "finding my passion" and it was very discouraging because I'm still not sure what that is yet. Thank you for this down-to-earth video.
Scylla i would suggest going to community college first and exploring different subjects through your GE and see what you end up being good at.
Clytamnestra Dungen Thanks for the advice!
Then go for something that sounds like you would not hate doing it, and that you have some form of inclanation for.
I have had 2 evaluations in my career that have had negative remarks about my work ethic of
"Going above and beyond" sometimes this world is messed up!
I am not part of your target demographic (about to turn 51!), but wow, your advice is a huge breath of fresh air to my life. I won't bore you with my life story, but I will say that I wish I had listened to my dad when I was a young adult. He grew up very poor during the Depression, and said strikingly similar things about work and life that you said in this video. I only hope it's not too late for me to adjust my course and build some better financial security.
I write and meet a lot of novelists in my day to day life. While it’s VERY difficult to make a living off fiction writing alone, many simply don’t want to because it would be too scary to base their entire income on their fiction and would make writing too pressured and less enjoyable.
Lauren Conrad Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaassss! On the nose!
Been loving the longer videos lately! I like to listen to them while I do other stuff around the house, sort of like a podcast :>
Her first bit of bad advice is a thing she herself benefited from. She says she got ahead by drinking with her bosses.
Karen Cole It seemed like the implication there was it didn't last and shouldn't have been okay.
That seemed odd to me too.
Nick Lemen yeah
I think the important bit is the "regularly" - I have seen it in American work places where you HAD to be there almost every night to drink, abandoning your family and kind of becoming an alcoholic. It's not a thing here in Germany and I'm really glad about it. If I want to have a drink or coffee with a coworker I'll ask them once a month or however often I like. Also not drinking too much and making mistakes is another key part of it.
But yeah, I get why you thought that, I had that thought too. It's the proportions that make it an advice I think.
Yeah. The first bit is bunk. There are definitely some cultures where you won't get ahead without being social with your co-workers and bosses. That's just reality.
I love your videos and the realistic portion, but you can definitely make real money by following your passion. You may have to take a job for survival in the mean time. Some people project their own experiences on to you. Like just because this is what you settled with/are happy with doesn’t mean it’s for everyone. And just because in your experience you don’t get to do what you want and make money and keep the passion doesn’t mean that will happen for others. Still enjoy your insight.
Yeah but it was only after that woman got ahead that she stopped schmoozing.
Yeah, if it works it works.
It's not good advice because its how things *should be* but how they are!
Yea, seemed like a contradiction to the video
Yeah, I agree. I just commented on it lol
how i took it is that, the people who built that schmoozing culture are most likely not gonna be there in a few years, now that we are the ones hiring/ the actual boss, we should put a stop on this.... or that later in the future, it is not a very satisfying memory once you remember that this is what you did to get to the top.. does that make sense ? :D
I hate the “find a job you love and you’ll never work a day in your life” trope. While I am still fairly young I have a recurring summer job that I love and pretty much plan the rest of my life around. I work as a summer camp counselor and let me tell you me and my coworkers work very hard every single day.
Cailyn Rossiter Same! Working as a camp counselor for children with disabilities or from the foster care system, it's an incredibly fulfilling and wonderful job, but on so many days you wake up early, go to bed really late, and run around all day. It's amaaazing, but it's so much work. I don't envy any of my friends who have horrible retail summer jobs that they hate, but I wouldn't say that because I'm more happy at work than they are, that I work any less.
Clytamnestra Dungen I'm not sure I understand what you were saying, I'm a summer camp counselor and the summer camp where I work strives to offer equal opportunities to play outside and have fun in the summer to disabled kids or children in foster care. Very often these two demographics don't have the same opportunities to attend summer camp because the camps don't offer activitves for physically or "mentally" disabled children or are too expensive for children in foster care.
They only come for two weeks, we are not a foster home and I have absolutely no part in the foster care process of taking children out of their homes, unless I witness signs of abuse in the children under my care, where I would have to signal it to my boss who would then alert the social worker. Even then I would personally have no part in the decision or the investigation after, other than saying what I saw or was told by the child.
I'm not sure what your comment was referring to, but as far as "abduction" by the foster system, I live in Quebec, Canada where it is actually so complicated to take a child out of their home that we are most often stuck with the opposite problem, which is that it can take years to take a child out of their homes even when we have proof of abuse or severe negligence. I'm no expert and am not a social worker so I'm not saying it never happened or never will and that is a disgrace, but I've never been confronted to this type of situation with the children I work with.
I don't really get why you are accusing me of using other people's disabled children to raise my self-esteem as this is my job. I was hired to do it and have fun doing it but I don't consider myself "better" than others for working with disabled children. I've worked with abled-bodied children as well, and insanely rich kids too and I've had just as much fun and did not find it less fulfilling. I don't see them as little pet projects or pity then in any way and your accusation was really out of nowhere... I'm happy to work with them just as I'd be happy to work with another clientele if it was as much fun, their "disability" is not what makes me love my job.
And also I am not a "volunteer" I am paid and trained for what I do. It's also just a summer job, and during the year I actually work part-time (still in school) as a entertainment and social life animator in a retirement home so your comment couldn't have been more wrong on that part, I do work with elderly people and do not consider them less "cute" or "fulfilling" than working with children.
Again even though your comment had nothing to do with the matter at hand which was that a fun job isn't less of a job, I hope that I cleared up what might have been confusing. I'm not sure what offended you with what I had previously said.
It's really a figure of speech. Working hard at doing something you love is a lot more satisfying and fulfilling than working hard at doing something that you find to be a drag.
I think they're talking about the people smuggling that goes on in developing countries to orphanages that people go to volunteer in
The "get a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life" part of this video is so true. I worked my dream job as a Park Ranger for the National Park Service for 2 seasons (it was only seasonal, so not financially stable) during the centennial of the Park Service no less, which was incredible. I had so many people tell me how they would kill to have my job, but honestly people literally think that being a Park Ranger means being in the woods all day and not seeing a soul, being outside all the time, etc when in reality most of the time you are stuck in a building from 9-5 (depending on the park, and type of ranger you are, etc) talking to visitors. It isn't a job for anti-social people. It's a wonderful job, and some people are lucky enough to make a career out of it. I found the full-time positions to have a lot of extra work that people don't expect like working on computers, answering emails, dealing with rude visitors, etc. There's A LOT I didn't realize about the job, and there's always something you will not like about a job, even if it sounds perfect.
haha yes, I'm in natural resources and I worked a season as a park attendant . . . I did like the job but people always seemed to think it was like running with the wolves or something when in reality it was mostly taking out trash and cleaning toilets.
Love how in-depth this video was. You backed up everything you stated and made it make sense. Thank you!
A job is not a loved one and you shouldn't expect to love it 100 percent? Ha! Tell that to some employers that try to pass rules to make you fake that.
I’m so glad I saw this. I really needed this information to just give myself a break. I constantly send out resumes because I’m so hard on myself about not having the perfect career that I’d manufactured in my head & from hearing bad and outdated advice. Now, I realize that that stuff doesn’t exist and you have to be flexible and make your career your own. Thank you!!!
Never been this early before and this video might be the answer to my career dilemma.
Great advice - I studied Art and Design at university, and although I love drawing and creating, I never wanted to make a career out of it. I'm a software support analyst and I love my job (most of the time), because I get to solve problems and use creative thinking every day.
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen about seeking healthy work and keeping passions outside of work. This is so realistic and helpful- even for people mid career. Banking all one’s fulfillment/ identity from a certain career path or job definitely sets one up for disappointment. Thanks!
I'm on a binge of financial diet videos and Im so grateful for this channel. Thank you for making these!
Although your information would work well for an individual management employee- contributor, you should probably add a disclaimer that some of the items mentioned would not be appropriate in a union setting or for someone who is a contractor. At my previous employment, there were strictly defined job duties by union job title and for contract employees.
Thank you for this video! I just slogged through a semester of school with a professor who was not a reliable source for advice. The problem was he never stopped shoving this bad advise on us. This very much lead me into a lot of confusion on what my career goals were going to be, but I am actively working on trying to let all that info go because none of it was helpful. Honestly this video helped so much.
The section on who gives good/bad advise pinned him as the bad advice giver. I could pinpoint the part of the class where the professor started thinking "why am I training my competition?" and started turning the class into actively dissuading us from pursuing our trade. Anyway thanks again, and I waved at my screen every time I saw a doggo.
It’d be cool to see you guys team up with The Muse or Ask a Manager.
You are gifted at the art of verbal communication / public speaking :). Thanks for a great message.
I cried juuustt a little at the last bit of advice. I can't believe it took me three years to find this video. I've been trying to combine better ideas about career happiness & job descriptions = personality & how the #"inspo" crap only applies to people with a personal/socio/economic leg up (espc. in the arts). Those last five minutes are going to be on loop when I try to talk to people about this stuff to myself or others from now on. Thank you so much for all the great videos!
When you deliver a hilarious line with total seriousness; I live for it!
I learned in the military real quick that you never do things to specifically make your boss look good. There's a LOT of supervisors out there who will gladly take all of the credit for your hard work and never mention your name to upper management. I remember staying hours after work to bang out jobs, and when the commander said we did a great job, the NCOIC said "yeah it was tough, but I worked hard to get through it", as if he did all the work (which he did zero of). I learned quickly that even if a boss is 'cool' with you, they're not your friends. Make sure YOU get noticed for YOUR work.
I love my job because of what the purpose of my job, it feels less like work than jobs I’ve had where the output isn’t as important to me. That doesn’t mean I blur boundaries it just means it’s easy to go to work in the morning and I come home feeling good about it.
totally agree with you that there is no perfect job.
All of this seems to be very situational. These tips can go either way depending on the many different types of people and ability levels and situations. There really are no rules. But there is one that will keep you out of trouble - be honest. Would you want to employ a liar? Would you want to work for a liar?
It also depends a lot on location. Different markets have different rules and struggles.
Scott J well there is a gray area there...though you should not outright lie being 100%honest and forthcoming is not always to your benefit either
I'm 43 years old and I found this video so informative. Thank you so much for all that you do.
above/below paygrade is good advice. A doctor should not de cleaning when she could be saving life. I won't take a heavy decision that could put the company at a loss, if I don't get payed for it (nor have it in my contract).
I always thought my dad gave the best advice he always said "find something you enjoy and can make money at"
Sage advice! One of the worst things I see people do is constantly compare themselves to others professionally when they have little context regarding the person they're comparing themselves to. Work within your experience and skill set and develop them as you go.
I disagree with some of these points, I have worked in HR and Recruiting for 10+ years with passionate artists and entrepreneurs, and I think it's important to focus on the dream and be motivated to be successful at it. If we focus on what is 'realistic' or 'practical' because it is 'good advice' as you say, we'll never put our full attention into pursuing our dreams. Look at Bob Proctor's Think & Grow Rich. Attention flows where energy goes. If we want to stay super practical, that is the life we are going to get. And that is fine if that's the life we want, but not all of us do. If we want to dream big and put our heart and attention fully into our dreams, and believe in ourselves, we are much more likely to get the results than half assing it. I got the feeling I was getting advice from a parent who wanted me to play it safe. Life is not a grocery list and doesn't have to be safe. We should be living our full authentic self, no matter how wild that is, if that is what we want. So respectfully, I think a lot of this is actually, bad advice for some.
Yeah, actually look at the people who have 'made it big' and you'll see people with money and connections gelore, who didn't need to dream of their position because it landed in their laps. This isn't about not having dreams of passions, but recognising that most of the time, for most people, it's never going to happen, so yes, do the acting/writing/painting/whatever just don't make it your job unless you get actual money for it that will pay your bills. That whole bullshit of living on the edge and living to the fullest is how you go broke and end up homeless. Don't pretend living a safe life is bad. And for those 3 people in the world who really do get to do their dream job and follow their passion, great. For the other 6 billion people not so much.
Anneke Oosterink I guess it’s all relative. I see people all around me pursuing their dreams and making money from it. It’s not to say they’re super famous or ridiculously rich, but they made a decent living and are super happy. I have also been able to quit he 9-5 and focus on my dreams and I am not rich or come from a wealthy family. I just know how to manage my money and my energy so I can keep focused on my dreams. We get what we believe in and i see it all the time. If we believe we are broke we will be broke and filter for it. I think there is more at play that can be considered and I believe If people really wanted to pursue something wholeheartedly they could make it work. Sometimes we just need a bit more info, experience or mentorship but it’s very possible. I know sooooo many people doing it who had zero privileges. Oh well it’s all relative. Maybe you haven’t filtered for those around you that did get some success (even just a little) for doing their passion. So I’m sure in your perspective you are right because that is your experience. It’s not mine though so just offering another view.
Pia Edberg I agree with you, some of the advice was sort of a mislead than a guidance......and also, some of it was right on the money!!
One thing is clear, it's a whole new generation......we really have to figure most of things out on our own, relying on parents or older people not the best idea!
I doubt she means you shouldn't care about your job at all and only go for money, but there's got to be some practicality to your thoughts. Some people make it and make a living, and that's great! However, most people don't make it, and that's okay too. People don't realize that you can love a job that's not your passion. My dad's passion is politics, however he a sales guy that absolutely loves his job. He loves the company he's at, what he does, and he enjoys knowing he's good at my job. I'm an office assistant and it's not my passion but I love my job and I'm excited to go there everyday. You don't need to have your passion as your career in order to pursue it or have fun with you life.
And sometimes a job is just a job, which is okay. Hobbies exist for a reason and paying your bills is just as important as having fun.
I think the basis of her points is that this can be harmful because it can lead people to neglect their personal life, overwork themselves, and seek validation from only their job. It's incredibly unhealthy to have your job be the only thing that makes you happy.
Thank you for all of the stuff about passion! I see so much language in hiring about how companies want candidates who are ~passionate~ about their field, which to me means their ideal candidate is someone who's willing to have an unhealthy work-life balance in order to ~pursue their passion~. Nah. I enjoy my job but at the end of the day I do it because I need money to live.
This was so helpful and timely for me. I have believed a lot of these bad career advice tropes and I think I may have wasted time beating myself up instead of enjoying what I could at each job and be flexible to step outside of the box when something interested me.
Thank you so much for being real and laying down the truth! Especially about those quotes like “follow your passion and the money will follow.” As someone who just started their professional career, I really needed to hear that.
I would be very interested in a video about jobs where "you live where you work" ie overnight summer camps, cruise ships, etc. I recently got hired with a cruise line and am a little worries about having my entire life be ran by my work life. What I mean by this is it's not just a job, it's a lifestyle change. I'll be moving to Hawaii, working 10+ hours a day with NO days off for 5 months at a time, and will be living with 900+ co-workers. The way we drink together, network, etc is very different than at a regular office job. Since the cruise industry is so big I was wondering if you guys knew people who could do a video on this! It's a great opportunity to save by not paying rent or utilities, but you end up working over 70 hours a week. Love you guys and please make a video on this!!
LibbyOMG turn your job into a hobby then. Have fun with it?
Hey there are some great youtube videos w/ people talking about their lives on cruise ships! (You’ve probably watched some lol) i went to a Q&A on the cruise i went on this summer and they did mention that you have to have a mindset of working hard and it’s not for everyone because you’re basically always at work and rarely sleep or have personal time. However, the experience will be one of the most valuable for you... it’s like the risk/reward factor. It’s a much more demanding job but you’ll personally get more out of it on every level and probably learn more about yourself and others! Hope this was encouraging!
Clytamnestra Dungen they are definitely legal. If you're not on a U.S. flagged vessel, the work days are EVEN longer. (ie 12 hrs a day bussing tables) but they make you go through extensive medical tests to make sure you're fit to work that much. If you have an issue such as siezures, knee or joint problems, severe mental health issues, etc it's likely you'll be turned down
After years of looking for the career that I love, I finally found the lign of work I really, genuinely love doing. It does not mean I don't work hard, or don't need to make an effort to learn and get better. It just means I feel happy when my efforts are noticed and I feel like what I am doing is right for me. Looking for a job that doesn't require you to make an effort is the best way to be disappointed and unemployed.
Your commentary is balanced and mature while your delivery is fresh and optimistic. As a professional overseas I find your advice truly valuable :3 Subscribed!
Really useful.I love how You've tackled the 1 worst advice mentioned in this video. I do hear it very often yet it has always seemd to me to be a wrong one.I also suspect that people who listen to it frequently quit quite good jobs that in the long run would offer them financially fulfilling careers.Please make a video with 5 best career tips.
I really enjoyed this. I thought the tone of your video was very impartial and informative.
This video was LIFE-CHANGING for me! I have NEVER thought of any of those weird "positive affirmations" in that way before and you've honestly just changed my entire outlook on my own life and career 'lattice' in the space of the 10 minutes that this video was. Thank you SO SO SO much, I have no idea how I even ended up on this channel but the universe was apparently working in my favour today lol! Going to share with this every person that will let me!
Thank you, I needed to hear this. I’ve really thought my entire life (19 right now) that I need a job that is my absolute passion and the perfect job, which is making it difficult for me to choose a path at university.
This is probably one of the best videos you’ve ever made. Being passionate about work is not related to the specific ‘work’ you do.
I totally appreciate the long videos. They're detailed, and at the rate of regular human speech, which means I actually have time to process and consider everything you're saying! I find it so hard to truly absorb content in those videos where they're basically speed-reading a script while simultaneously showing images and quotes different than what the speaker is saying. It's sensory overload, and I have a hard time recalling what I've watched right after it's over.
As a newly entrepreneur I am very glad that you made this video. I realized very quickly that going into my biggest passion in life not only did not fulfilled me but even worst... affected my passion. Now, my passion became my work and I feel anxiety every time I think about it... the journey has been very hard (harder than it should have...) and is still difficult to bare now. If I could turn back time, I wonder if I would have chosen to do this... I don't think I would have.
My passion is to work for minimum wage at a hardware store.
I really appreciate the realistic point of view that these videos are made. Seriously the sappy passionate career advice is over whelming lol it’s great to hear someone say that’s bull here’s what’s really going to work
thanks Chelsea and TFD team! I love your channel and you're all so helpful!!!
What a great video! This is vital stuff to people who are looking to move their lives forward somehow. I want to do something other than dishwashing. Don't get me wrong, I love my co-workers, I love my restaurant, and I get paid well with benefits. And working in a busy kitchen teaches you so much about life in general, and builds many transferable skills.
Like multi-tasking. OMG the multitasking. I've become so damn good at absorbing information. Just as long as I can hear you and understand the language your speaking, as well as your preferred form of speech. Dialects y'all, English has them.
But I still need to do more with my time than just wash dishes. I just do.
A job is not a loved one. You are are not expected to love it unconditionally and nor will it love you back.
Well said, Chelsea. I never knew I need this words so bad until you said it.
Great video. I love that it came in the middle of the day today.
I needed this today. Thank you. I'm graduating soon, and I can't stand all the "do what you love" stuff. I like my career, somedays I love it, but it is not all that I am, and I go through these periods of doubt because of that. It's so nice hearing that I'm not the only one who thinks that is nonsense.
I love your videos !!!! keep up the hard work .. I have also added few of my friends to this channel..male and female
Well I always think of "above your paygrade" as knowing something you are not supposed to know in a company. :)
So the example for #1 shows exactly the opposite of what they claim. Namely that you DO get ahead by attending social events.
I think that woman is a hyper-extrovert. She's probably the type who just naturally does what most people would consider schmoozing and networking.
I'm so glad I heard this first point. I've been studying fashion for 3 years now, expecting to be super passionate, and happy with everything, but recently have been feeling like I just hate everything about it. I'm glad I got reminded that I don't have to enjoy every single little thing, or be good at everything within it, to carry on doing it. If I start to think of it as my work, rather than as following a passion, I really think I will start to be happier with it again.
Here's some useful real life work advice:
-It's who you know, not what you know. Yes, learn your stuff and do your job well, but be social, get to know people, be genuinely nice and stay in touch. These people might remember you and help you out sometime months, years, or decades in the future.
-No loyalty. Your employer would slit your throat to get a 2 cent rise in share prices, you own them nothing but what's in your job description. I'm not saying sabotage your employer or do a bad job, but be prepared to leave when it is to your benefit.
-If you're not paid for it, don't do it. There is a destructive fiction that you have to "give 110%" or "go the extra mile" to show that you're worthy of a raise or a promotion. You know what it's called when someone takes something they haven't paid for? Theft. Don't give in to this extortion, regardless of what this video suggests. If you're offered a trial period of two or three months to prep you for a new role, that's one thing. Expecting free work from you all the time is abuse.
-Give credit where it's due. There's plenty of credit to go around, so acknowledge when people help you.
-Don't steal credit.
haha definitely removing proficient in excel!
An excellent video. I personally prefer it the length it is, because there's a lot of important information to get through. No shorter please.
Your makeup is on point today, Chelsea! Nicely done :)
I discovered your channel last night, in a UA-cam black hole of Ted talks on finance. Every single on I've watched so far hits home with good, well thought out and sound advice. At the end of each, I want to subscribe only to realize I did it already. :) Thank you for this. Awesome job. I really needed to hear this. Salamu from Nairobi.
I should add, the drinking with co-workers is often tricky for me, I'm a Sommelier. Early 2017 I was part of a start up with a team of four (my bosses and a Chef). I curated the wine and we'd often have evenings or afternoons tasting. Inevitably the professional lines did get blurry and I had to leave. Though there is no bad blood between us (they often recommend me to other companies/consultation jobs), I wish we could have stayed to work together on the project. I am one of those people guilty of falling in love with a project.
I don't drink so when we have staff do's I stay for about an hour and then leave. That is usually when people are starting to get drunk etc and I've never seen a downside of this. Also I've always done bits of my manager's job that if I do means it gets done quicker and my life easier in the long run. I now am in a middle management job because of those things I learnt to do while in an entrance level job. But I must say I only did the things that would make my life easier. This is awesome advice because that was a much better way to climb the ladder than drinking with people after work.
but one has to be careful to only do bits and not whole duties of the boss. its a slippery slope. when my boss asked for help he would request it and if i was busy would do himself. and if my own task was delayed, i could always blame my delay on helping him on his task.
I love your practical and honest advice it is invaluable
I'd rather disagree that "follow your passion" is a bad advice, because it's "the best way to start hating your passion". My passion is writing, and I worked on a dozen different jobs. Every time I started working on a new job, I told myself: "Ok, BUT NOW - NO WRITING. It should stay my hobby, not my job, because otherwise I'll hate it". And every time I ended up writing. Because: A) I like it; B) I can do it better than others. It's my professional destiny and I have nothing to do with that.
Clytamnestra Dungen Yes, I could, but I would not be so productive on another position as a manager or admin, for example. I changed job positions in some companies to write.
You are so down to earth. I think my job is OK but I work for my payroll not for passion. I do a good job and try to have a fulfilled life experience outside work. Some of us don't have the right connections to get the carer of our dreams.
Just discovered this channel and I’m really grateful. As someone who doesn’t really know that much about fiscal responsibility I appreciate all the videos filled with smart advice I can start implementing into my life
Just found this channel. Love it. My advice for finding a job you love is sort of abstract but if you understand what I’m saying you may realize you have more dream jobs that you didn’t expect, like my job, which I LOVE and have never considered during the first 25 years of my life
What you should do is reflect inwards and make a list of all your favorite hobbies the ones you would do all day if you had the opportunity... then boil down the traits of those hobbies that you believe are the reasons you love that hobby .. for instance I enjoy hiking, but i found out after thinking about it that the main reason I enjoy hiking is because I like to find the hidden things off the beaten path or that are out of place... animal tracks, dens, old buildings, trash/evidence of campsites, etc...
I did the same thing with my other hobbies and personality traits and I built a list of personal traits that I could use to compare against different careers.. and the two jobs I was stuck on all of a sudden opened up to over a dozen
I got lucky and now I’m working as a Home Inspector and I couldn’t be happier ... this is an old video but maybe it will help someone else if they stumble across it