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New 2024 Royal Enfield 650 Scrambler Spied: Everything You Need To Know!
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
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I'd take that over the Triumph. The lower power and spec doesn't seem too important on that style of bike, and the cost saving is significant.
You’re one of the hardest working guys in the motorcycle Internet industry, nice job. Thanks.
Thanks Robyn! Lots more to come over the next couple of months :)
I have been waiting for this since I got my Classic last year - I love the scrambler format and the 650 engine. If it looks like the spy shots I would seriously consider swapping out my classic. Fingers crossed!
The other rumoured bike to come from Royal Enfield is a 650 Classic, that would definitely peak my interest.
@@winchester92stevebrook44 that would be worth looking at as well.
I have a himalayan. I've had more powerful bikes in the past from street bikes to cruisers and I have to say hands down it's been the best bike I've ever owned. It's lack of power believe it or not has really helped fine tune my motorcycling skills even more and I've been riding almost 19years. This 650 scrambler looks exciting to me and is interesting. Once you understand what royal enfield is about you get the bikes. The finish is constantly improving. My himmy is 2021 and she's perfect plus she's like a tractor reliable and easy and cheap to fix. Plus I've never wanted to ride more than when I got her. The weather doesn't matter anymore and she's comfortable as hell. I actually can't wait for this new member of the Enfield family. I think you either get Royal Enfield or you don't. Triumph is beautiful but it can be hit and miss and you don't always get what you pay for. I suppose at the end of the day you have to pick a bike that is confidence inspiring and that makes you happy. There's definitely a space in the market for the 650 scrambler. Now a 650 himmy would be an exciting prospect but then again I love my 411 tractor 😊
Yes, to the 650 Himalayan.
The 650 would be cool but for now the 450 will do.
As a new (6 months) owner of a ‘23 Himalayan… I can say that unless you live in a small town, or simply never touch a highway, the 411 is just not enough. But it’s not the motor that’s the issue. It’s the 5 spd trans. It needs ONE MORE GEAR! I’ve already upped my front sprocket by one tooth, and that did help… but a 6th gear is seriously needed. I’m looking to trade my Himi back in on an Int 650 specifically to turn that into a scrambler… but now I see RE is already going to do that!? Crazy
@@nightdrv RE have launched the new 450 CC Himalayan with an Liquid Cooled 40 bhp / 40nM single, USD forks, Better navigation pod, 6 Gears, ride by wire, etc. Being an owner of the Interceptor 650 and having tested the new Himalayan (coz my bro owns it hehe), I can safely say it's a good upgrade over the old 411 mill. The only downside is the 450 engine is slightly more vibey. I love my interceptor for everything (including that butter smooth twin) but I hate the shocks. They are just not cut out for a modern bike that weighs upwards of 215 kgs.
Been waiting for RE to offer this configuration. If it comes in at the price you suggest it will be a market leading no brainer. Super interested in one as my daily driver.....
Can't wait to see that one Rob - love an Enfield scrambler me! Nice video as always mate......
Looks decent doesn't it! And thanks :)
My preference would be the Triumph 900 Scrambler, but at £3,000 less this Enfield is bound to succeed.
Sadly to NL this bike will be 10k still lol
@@ZinoAmare Try living in Norway, the Interceptor is over 11k here 😬 Still cheaper than a Triumph though... Just about.
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Chain maintenance will surely be easier on the scram, and that 2 into 1 exhaust will be lighter, and USD forks. I have been waiting for this since the launch of the 650 series.
Ok
Liking the simple authenticity that this promises. Sometimes less really is more...
I like the look of the 650 Scrambler, I think that it might use the clocks in the forthcoming Himalayan 452, looking at the spy shots. Or failing that the Meteor.
The seat looks more like it should’ve been all along. And I also like a straight up wide handlebar riding position.
I realy like the scramblers stance, looks purposeful, can't wait to see it in it's production colours. Keep up the good work!
This looks extremely promising! Can't for more details, and of course a Motobob test drive 🤠
It will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the 400X. Looks great on the spy shots so the finished product should be a handsome chap.
If it can compete with 400x which is 250ccs lesser, it sure can compete with 900 which is 250ccs more. Pure genius marketing strategy.
@pratik.jaiswar hmmmm, maybe. The 400 is lighter, cheaper(probably) and there won't be much difference in bhp. It will be revvier no doubt but it will depend on the tastes of the rider. The Enfield will be cheaper than the 900 though so should be a really good middle ground.
A lot of us have done similar mods to our Interceptors. It's nice to see something from the factory like this.
The primary market for RE is still India and scrambler style is not priority. Which explains why RE probably took it's time with this model.
Very true but the Scrambler game has caught on in India with Triumph doing extremely well in with the 400CC Scram 400X. So maybe now RE should take notice!
Finally... I love how they use the same engine & frame to cover all the categories.
Now, if Triumph would catch up with that 660 line up. : D
They should bring both the varients spoke and allow wheels.
Looking forward to a test ride. I'm looking to downsize from my overly tall KTM 1090 so this could just be the ticket!
Great video. I am still a sucker for the upswept pipes as on the Triumph scramblers and old Honda CL series.
5:48 I can see a joystick it is safe to assume it will have the himalayan 450 style dashboard and hopefully swichable ABS.
The new Triumph Scrambler 400 X would be my choice, 40bhp and 170kg wet.
I've owned the 1200 XE, and although absolutely amazing with SP Engineering slash cuts, it was the height and weight that made me sell it. Height being the major one when you ride a lot of single track roads with off camber, stopping isn't fun.
The wife owns the Street Scrambler 900 and that is brilliant fun, so no need to have 2 of them.
Current bike is a Tiger 900 GT Pro, and I absolutely love it.
This new Enfield will be in the ball park of the new 400 X, so would more likely to compete with that and not the more premium 900 and 1200 Scramblers.
Can`t wait to this one to come out and test drive it. After many BMW adventure bikes I am done with them, but at 6.2 feet i need at least 40/50 hp and a relatively tall seat. This could be a good option. Keep the news coming! Thanks
They have launched the Himalayan 452 with 40 bhp / 40NM. 835 MM seat height (which is also height adjustable).
Excellent Video! Finally a cool retro scrambler!
It's going to be great. What also would be great is a 350 scrambler. As a single it would be easy to route the exhaust like the Triumph up high one pipe instead of 2 would look glorious and that single also sounds sweet.
INT650:
47hp and 39ft lb
-445 lbs
Triumph 400X
:40hp and 28 ft lb
-395 lbs
The Scrambler fork being an upside down unit would be a good change for the Continental GT with its sporting bent and prowess.
I bought an Interceptor recently, I live in Co.Mayo Ireland and to be honest the suspension just can't handle the roads we have around here, which is a shame because everything else about the interceptor is great, the engine/gearbox etc is just gorgeous on the good roads. A scrambler version would do the trick for sure. Til then I'm sticking with my XT. Anyone want to buy an Interceptor!
Even I want a version that can handle miles of gravelly roads.
Simple, swap the suspensions and you are on your way. YSS, Ohlins etc all offer over the counter replacement suspension.
Pretty cool. Thanks.
I have tried both the interceptor and the gt, and while I was enjoying the engine, I was not happy with boring ergonomic of interceptor on one side and seating discomfort on gt (although riding gt I found a great fun, just cannot imagine riding it longer or more often how uncomfortable it was) - so this scramble may be the good answer, I am very curious to see it. And the low exhaust - I love it! my main concern with scramblers really as I mostly ride around the town, often with a pillion.
Yeah, riding the GT for long periods can be quite uncomfortable. That's kind of ironic seeing as GT means "Grand Tour."
I was thinking about buying a naked sports bike this year and using my Himalayan for lanes but I might save my money and wait for this now.
Seems close to a G650 GS pwr/wt but better sales coverage in Asia. Curious to see if people travel it
Been looking at the Triumph 900… this might be a game changer 😮
Weight is also important for a scrambler. I think the triumph is really nice but I have a feeling the RE would be more fun on the dirt. Easier to toss around. Or at least I think so all depends on the weight
Having owned a R9T Scrambler, a Triumph 900 Scrambler and currently a Ducati 1100 Scrambler this one gets my vote for what is probably the best for taking off road on a blast at a great price!
Its likely not bette than the Ducati Desert Sled
Nothing Beats the Rumoured Classic 650.
Just release it already.
I would like to buy the front end and the LED lights to bolt onto my 2021 Interceptor. But then, I would have to include the tubeless/alloys from the later Interceptor.
As long as I can flatfoot it (a bit height challenged) I would definitely go for it! What about a Hunter Scrambler 450 w/ 6 speed ? I’m there in a heartbeat! Take care!
They just launched the Guerrilla 452 which is basically a roadster/pseudo scram version of the himalayan. 780MM seat height. 185KGS weight. 40bhp/40nm. Should def suit you...sayin this coz I share the same height limitations.
I would definitely go for this new one coming up. Cheers.
looks great
Many, many excellent points made here, as per your usual! Thanks. One thing I look for here in the USA is cruise control. We've got lots of fairly straight highways and cruise is a key accessory, at least for me. Triumph cripples many of their bikes (both Scramblers and Bonnevilles) by leaving it off which has soured me a bit on a purchase. Maybe RE can take advantage of this bit of Triumph marketing madness.
I see the CL500 Honda that was briefly shown as the main competitor.
I will be saving my money for this one.
Should I wait for this before going for the interceptor?
Make a video about the upcoming Himalayan 450 based Scram/ hunter/ roadster 450 please
2 into 1 exhaust, though positioned low with a short muffler
Too right. Why did it take them this long?? Anyway, this model addresses pretty much all the gripes I had for the Interceptor. There's a suspension upgrade, the wheels and tires look spot on and will open up a foray of tire choices, and the rider's triangle looks ergonomically roomier and more comfortable. They'll shoot out the door with supply issues for some time. I'm guessing many will trade their Conti's and Interceptors and the rest of us will finally buy one.
Yes. Let's hope it sells well and get "them""out on neardo meetings
Looks amazing !
Good video 👌 I agree you, the Scrambler model will be more comfortable than Interceptor
With the Triumph scrambler 400x being released in the UK, I think this has probably missed the boat. It sounds like this will be more expensive and heavier with only a small increase in power over the triumph. Still I suppose it's good to have a choice. BTW I own a triumph and an enfield so I wouldn't mind either.
will 250cc difference help with someone that is on the heavier side? I'm 5'9" and 220lbs.... and have been eyeing the 400X Scramble for the looks without spending that much for a 900 scrambler, also eyeing the honda 500CLX but now that this is coming out, is adding more questions to my decision, lol
Looks good but going to get a late run off XSR700 XTribute for the lighter weight and a bit more punch 💡
Way more "punch"... Those are 75hp.
... also un rideable, unless you're at 10k feet or higher elevation.
There needs to be a good middle ground, between the 300/400 singles (~30-40HP) and the 650/700 twins ( ~70-80hp)... In a cheap, semi off-road, non plastic platform. : D
Praying to Jeebus that the wheels are a straight fit onto the Interceptor, or other parts generally now that i think about it. But particularly the wheels. And i dare not even dream of spoked tubeless. But judging by the rims on the spy shots, they look tubed. Hopefully the rims at least take tubeless tires, so that we can use a tubeless conversion kit. I seen a confidence inspiring conversion elsewhere on youtube.
But I see a radiator grill on the front. How can it be an air cooled engine?
Great for Budget friendly, even I am also looking for New RE
Exactly what I want will buy
RE over triumph.. Just the insurance cost difference between the 1200 and 650 are huge plus price difference.
Looks promising, but as we can’t legally ride forest roads here in Germany, I think I still prefer the Interceptor.
If this comes with the new Himalayan 450 speedo, I’ll be sold! My biggest gripe with the 650 twins was their lack of a clock!😂
If RE does decide to go after the Scrambler crowd I only hope they will seriously lean the final production towards the dual purpose side of the trail. (See what I did there😳). Plenty of the street mostly oriented scramblers out there already. Huge market for the guys looking at the DR650, KLR 650 and others where something like the RE 650 could prove outstanding. Here’s hoping👍
You'll definitely get your wish in the end, 2025 model 650 off road and dual support models planned and mentioned by RE last year.
What will be the expected weight of this bike you Think?
I’d stick to the new triumph 400 scrambler , ok it’s got less power but it’s lighter , so that doesn’t matter and better built 😊👍
My thoughts exactly, I'm waiting for the 400X to come out but since I'm a little on the heavy side, now I don't know which motorcycle will carry my weight better.... does a 250cc gap makes any difference?
Hi I wouldn't say the Triumph is better built .. as it is an unknown entity as of yet. The Interceptor platform has been out for tears with no horror stories..... Bajaj ....????
but please don't believe the 16k Kms service interval. rest upto the buyer.
@@omargdb 1 extra cylinder does make a difference.
@@omargdbsadly with Enfield they need and extra cylinder to make the same hp. So ignore the cc size and look for HP figures... Honda 300's are 30 HP, and twins are 80.
Freddie Dobbs has been really struggling to get a cylinder head gasket for his Bonneville for more or less 4 months now. So, to me it would be down to something as simple as getting parts for the bike I choose. RE have said that most; if not all parts are available for their full range. I reckon with a higher exhaust and some knobblies, the Interceptor would make a great scrambler and would be considerably cheaper.
So my choice would be Royal Enfield Interceptor (modded)..............
It would be a nice stable mate for my Super Meteor 650.
My dealer reckons there will be an RE Scrambler in 2024, plus 3 others. Possibly Scram 450, Bullet Bobber 350 (from trawling internet)
That front forks doesn’t look like it has a lot of travel. At least a 150mm should be there with right amount of stiffness.
The low silencer is there so they can easily turn this into a Hunter 650(or HNTR 650) with 17 inch wheels front and rear in the near future.
That's what I'm waiting for!
@@ferdiebeerI'm with you on that👍
Is it tubeless or tubeless ready?
I think the only question is why has it taken RE so long?.
From what I can see, I think they might have been able to do better with the exhaust as even the cans a bit low slung for a scrambler. Also if they fall short of 150mm suspension travel more than a few of us will be disappointed. That's always been the biggest failure on the triumph scrambler 900 & why i don't ride one.
I'm not sure it will have 150mm of suspension travel, at least not at the rear as the Interceptor on which this is based has ~90mm and taking it to 150mm would increase the seat height by a significant amount..... but you never know? I'd guess something like 130mm at the rear and 140mm at the front maybe so ~40mm increase in seat height over the Interceptor🤔
It took them so long b/c Scramblers aren't a 'thing' (not very popular) in India, and India is far and away their largest market. They only sell a relatively small amount of motorcycles in the rest of the world, in places where a Scrambler might be in more demand.
They just cut to essentials, in India if RE provide it all we would just remove it all and add aftermarket parts probably a loud exhaust to make it feel like a truck on two wheels 😂😂 and I love my 350
Been waiting for the new 450 Himalayan...and now this!
Not sure about which one to get now...
Same!
If I like them when they are launched, I am buying both and getting rid of my Honda 500.
I'm eager to buy this 650cc scrambler from RE!
They need to make the 865 big bore kit a factory option.
Do you think the new Triumph Scram 400 would be the perfect fit for a decent Power n tech as an alternative to this RE which I feel will take some time for it to be launched??? (speaking out of Himalayan 450 launch experience)
Expect both very soon. Both have been testing for over a year now. Poss both could be at EICMA.
A response to the Triumph Scrambler 400 X?
Shame about the USD forks.. that detracts from the retro looks.. not a fan of LEDs either..
Any idea why we aren't seeing any more Chrome engines in the modern classics
Any news about the upcoming 750’s
RE have not announced any intention over the years to produce a 750cc.
And you forgot to tell about the show suspension in front!
So, this will fit between the new triumph scrambler 400X and the scrambler 900, it's a perfect middle point between the two, with pretty much same looks and style, although bigger engine than the 400X, will it still be worth buying the 400X knowing Royal Enfield is bringing this scrambler 650?? I'm 5'9' and 220 lbs on a good day, lol
I own the Interceptor and my bro owns the 400X. The Triumph trumps the Interceptor in all departments except engine and braking which are superior in the Interceptor (look wise both are head turners). The triumph is lighter and unless the RE do some major modifications to bring the weight down, this one is still gonna end up being a few pounds too many.
If you are ok with s single cylinder mill (which is slightly gruff ath higher RPMs) then go for the Triumph.
This is the engine from the RE hunter ( 450cc) not 650.
lol bikes ... just got a conti 6...pretty chill bike
I need this bike. I've been waitin for it for SO LONG. USA release when? Never did understand why RE chose to put out a fleet of 350 putters in the US when we desperately need more 650+ engines.
Well I understand what you must be feeling. But RE has just started changing like 5-7 years ago, and it does take time. They have launched the Super Meteor 650 in the US now too. The New liquid cooled Himalayan will reach US in 7-8 months too.
Typically bikes in the US reach 7-9 months after being launched in India.
I'm hoping they use the interceptor dash. Not the awful Super meteor dash which I loathe.
1:47 Hey look they changed the position of that electrical rectifier unit. the usual under engine location was absolute garbage of a place on Interceptor 650
My preference of this category if on a budget would be the cfmoto 700cl-x adventure/heritage which you didn't include in the video for some reason or if I had a bit more budget I'd get the awesome Yamaha xsr 700/900 - both with neo retro styling and bags of hp hence a better value for money per hp than most of these options.
I hoped that RE would have made a 650 Himalayan , seems they might be missing the mark with this one imho , but I've been wrong before so we'll see😉😁
That also needs to be built as well. All the huge adv bikes are getting bigger and bigger...
I think the weight of the 650 platform is holding them back. The Himalayan 452 is almost out though.
But RE being RE, they might decide to do a Himalayan 650 in the future, who knows!
@@the_winged_helm nah that can't be it, then the Himalayan 411 wouldn't exist at all. The 411 is just 30# lighter then the T7.
The interceptor 650 is only 30# heavier then the Himalayan 411... Do you see where I'm going with this. All the big 1200+cc adv bikes are 550-650#
@@martykasa7864 yeah, I was just guessing. As I was saying, they still might decide to bring in a Himalayan 650.
To be honest, I'm confused with RE's intent with the Himalayan. The 411 was a proper dual sport which could do road touring as well as medium off roading. The leaked power figures for the Himalayan 452 seems to suggest that one is more biased towards road touring.
@@the_winged_helm the Himalayan had good suspension & def looked good once you lost the windshield, and the upper "adv" frame & out the headlight on the forks with a cheap 5$ kit Def very off road capable, just need more power... And more brakes.
Probably my next bike.
Writing from Colombia, for me it seems like another street bike, there is a retro good looking style but I can't find the Scrambler spirit in this first meeting.
650 Himalayan please!
I think the 400x is more it's competitor but anyway It's the BSA scrambler I'm waiting to see!
Are they milking the platform too much?...what do you think?... considering the future models too
RE has always milked there platform 😂😂 engines easy to open easy to close
Other brands do it just as much though. Thinking Yamaha R7, T7, XSR 700, and MT-07, or KTM RC390, 390 Duke, 390 Adventure (not to mention the Husqvarna Vitpilen and Svartpilen).
Different strokes for different folks. If you've got a solid platform and can use it to cater to different audiences, it's just a savvy way to do business.
My personal problem with the Royal Enfield lineup is that I'd legitimately own one of each if money was no object :')
@@WandelLander To me the most unique one in RE lineup is the Himalayan
@@tuananhphamcong344 Completely agree, there's nothing that really looks like the Himalayan. A proper ADV with classic scrambler charm.
My personal favorite is the Interceptor. It's less unique, but I love that 60s roadster vibe!
Couple of point to note here this scram is going to be atleast 15+ kilos lighter than interceptor650 because of the slim header pipes n single exhaust and wheels and suspension setup are direct copy paste from upcoming himalayan 452. Its definitely gonna be more fun than int650
15kg lighter is a very nice update
Rock the Him 452 with an S&S cam. Set! 😈
@@jasonrichardwattsnice idea
Where is the sg650? 😭
RE basement
Yep....
Do you think Himalayan 650 is going to be next?
End of 2024 expect two adventure models. Not guaranteed to be called Himalayan though.
Need my gt350 from enfield...
Put the motor from the 535 Continental gt in the classic 350 and I'll buy one.
just tell me where to get THAT seat!!!
Maybe my next bike
Interesting pics - do "Testers" ride in T shirts and jeans now - to show how cool the bike isn't?