Those who believe in the afterlife would know they were about to crossover into another dimension. I guess that would either comfort those people more or cause even more terror depending on how they lived their lives.
Horrible to see. I dare not imagine the last seconds of life of these poor people who saw death coming without being able to do anything about it. May they rest in peace.
From Egypt, Our thoughts are with the Brazilian people as they mourn the victims of a tragic plane crash. We send our deepest condolences to the families of the victims. 🇪🇬 🇧🇷
@@captng I mainly listen to the news on television, but listening to the news on mobile made me realize there is no background music. I’m Pakistani and the news channels there always have music in the background.
@@SergeyTaboritsky69 I know I have seen that. For example they'll show a person with loss and play sad music in the background. Talk about classless media.
I'm from Brazil. This airline, VoePass (which used to be Passaredo) is not an unknown airline. They've been operating for almost 30 years and this is the first in their history (counting the time they were Passaredo). It's a regional airline (if I'm not mistaken, it's the only regional airline that operates out of São Paulo airports). So yes, it's a serious airline. This is the first accident involving an ATR airplane in Brazil and the first commercial airplane accident in 17 years since the accident involving the A320 of TAM Flight 3054 (which is now LATAM, which even has codeshare with VoePass), an accident that happened on 07/17/2007.
@@jeanrivillas8463that happened in Bolivia or somewhere in that area. The passengers were mostly Brazilians though Edit: nvm it was actually in Colombia
Some information about this terrible tragedy. Firstly, I want to say that all of us Brazilians are devastated. Such is the pain, as it had been years since a plane crash had happened in Brazil. Today is Father's Day Sunday here. 08/11/2024 On this flight, it is worth mentioning that 61 lives were lost. And that includes around 21 doctors who were traveling to São Paulo to give a lecture, people who spent their lives saving lives, lost it on this flight. In addition to a father, who was traveling with his 4-year-old daughter, to celebrate Father's Day with her, he had picked her up especially to spend today with her, and I can't imagine the pain of this mother who lost a daughter , and the father of her daughter. I can't imagine the father's despair in those last seconds. There was also a Venezuelan couple on this flight. They had adopted a dog here in Brazil called Luna, everyone had helped so that the dog Luna could board with the couple, as they had fallen in love with her. The dog was found near the couple. In addition to daughters, mothers, grandmothers, many family members, on this plane was someone's love, someone's life that was gone in seconds. I couldn't bear such pain. All we Brazilians want is respect and prayers, as we are a people of faith, a united people, and sensitive to each other's pain. I'm very proud of my country. When one goes off course, everyone feels
Todos nós estamos consternados com essa tragédia! Que apareça o real motivo que provocou essa queda, e se foi por negligência que haja a devida punição aos responsáveis! Lembrando que a família de Venezuelanos além do cachorrinha também estavam com uma criança, o garotinho tinha uns 4 anos, morreram juntos! Há vídeo dele e da outra garotinha que faleceu na queda brincando juntos no aeroporto! 😭
No control. Absolute zero . You're just falling to your death. That feeling, I cannot fathom. I will never fly. That plane, literally, dropped out of the sky.
22 year pilot here. That is from complete loss of lift in which the aircraft is no longer capable of flight. This is not induced by engine failure. Highly likely severe icing
Flat spin has to be one of the scariest ways to crash in a plane. It’s literal free fall with your stomach in your throat. Those poor people lived a nightmare until the end feel so bad for them.
Many ages ago, we lost an F4 pilot and radar men due to a flat spin. It was at low altitude, and just barely on radar. Made a hellva crater. And the crew, they didn't make it. And it was the squadron's best flying aircraft with the least amount of problems. As for the crew, the G-forces were so high, the accident investigators suspected the crew was instantly pinned to their seats and couldn't do anyhting.
Yes...we CAN recover from flat spin....providing you have enough space and time..!!...As seen..No hope of recovery..!!...Hopefully Black Box will detail this awful disaster..!!!
And all of my 56 years I have never seen an airplane crash like that. I used to work for an airline. I’ve seen a lot of things. This is not one of them.
@radiohead2206 So, the plane doesn't glide like paper airplane? We're not talking helicopter here... because that is how majority of helicopter crash are... I'm looking from an uneducated stand point here.
@@DieselRamcharger There was a SIGMET for severe icing over the whole region. If you don't know what a SIGMET is, you have no business in this conversation. 🙄
@sunnyjim1355 - Yeah, it's gotta be. I wonder how they got themselves into that mess. I've never actually seen a bigger passenger aircraft just dropping like that. It was pretty wild looking.
I like how she says "It appears to show a fire truck and an ambulance responding" as what every person on Earth knows is a fire truck and an ambulance drive by.
@@user-gf3wn1ne9n Wouldn't even a blind person know there will be firetrucks and rescue peope there without anyone reminding you that there are fire trucks and rescue on the way
Well I mean idk why you would need to make up some extremely complicated answer as to why it “fell out of the sky”. He got straight to the point. It “lost aerodynamics and was no longer flying” and started to spin and it crashed simple. 💀
The answer is likely icing resulting in loss of lift and a stall. It was flying through clouds at what would likely be icing conditions: ~60 degrees F at the ground, likely below freezing at the altitude the plane was at, being that far from its destination.
Wow. Seeing a medium sized plane like that in a completely flat stall is...strange doesn't even do it justice. Even with complete engine failure the expectation is that the plane would still have some amount of forward glide during decent, but that plane was just going straight down. That's not just a "something went wrong" kind of incident, that's a "multiple VERY bad somethings had to have gone wrong all together" type of incident.
@@jeremycovelli it looks like the plane had problems for awhile. the speedometer for it was running crazy the entire flight, and past flights too. there's certainly multiple reasons as to why this happened
On that plane there was a 5-year-old girl who was traveling with her father to spend Father's Day together (last Sunday was Father's Day here in Brazil), when the firefighters went to collect the bodies, the two were hugging each other. There was also a Venezuelan child who was with a puppy, all of them were found charred (including the dog itself), all the passengers were found charred. This accident was very tragic and much heavier than you guys imagine and the families are devastated, there were many people whose dreams were interrupted and they lost their lives. At this moment there is not much to ask questions or question because unfortunately we do not have all the answers, just pray for the families, friends and loved ones of the victims, Please pray for the families! 🙏 I wish everyone reading this a great day/night and good health always!
I just saw the new information about the accident on TV, all the bodies were charred to the point that they could not be identified by fingerprints, some victims had already been identified and what saddened me most was a father and a 3-year-old daughter who was traveled with him to celebrate Father's Day
I watched an old UA-cam documentary on the same plane, unfortunately icing was the usual cause but we don't know as yet. God bless them all, your worst nightmare.
The aircraft stalled for some reason and was in a nearly flat spin. With no aerodynamic lift, it literally became a brick. That type of thing is all but impossible for a pilot to recover from. The question is why it happened--all but unheard of with a trained and experienced flight crew, unless there was a critical mechanical issue of some sort.
It's a "T-Tail", one that clearly entered a "deep stall", from which it is almost impossible to recover. I'm going to presume it was another example of an ill-advised turn at some point in the approach. Straigh-on, approach to landing stalls have become rare.
It is possible to recover from such a situation, (counter the spin with the rudder, while turning the nose down until the plane goes into a dive - then once there's enought airflow over the wings again to produce lift, then it can pull out of the dive) but of course you need enough altitude to be able to perform that maneuver.... which it clearly didn't have anyway. RIP
I dont trust the planes bro to me airports are closer to jim jones camps because you papers please theres only 6 vending machines for everyone and then you give up your 4th amendment as well they will frisk a child they will send you through scanners they search your bags and at the end of the day the boeing still falls outta the sky man 😂😂😂
the video of the plane spinning uncontrollably before hitting the ground is extremely heartbreaking, I extend my heartfelt condolences to the families and friends of the victims, it's a sad day for humanity and aviation
My dad is a former Airline captain (flew the a320/330 for 20 years, is flying private jets now) and when he saw the news on TV just 15 minutes after the crash he sent in our family group in Whatsapp "It was icing, 100%.", just by the way the plane fell. The ATR is very infamous for his icing problems
So they're infamous for this but still allowed to fly. Why? The FAA parked the 737 Max for two years, allowing this craft to fly on US soil. They are a bunch of hypocrites
From the crash investigation from american eagle flight 4184: The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable causes of this accident were the loss of control, attributed to a sudden and unexpected aileron hinge moment reversal that occurred after a ridge of ice accreted beyond the deice boots because: 1) ATR failed to completely disclose to operators, and incorporate in the ATR 72 airplane flight manual, flightcrew operating manual and flightcrew training programs, adequate information concerning previously known effects of freezing precipitation on the stability and control characteristics, autopilot and related operational procedures when the ATR 72 was operated in such conditions; 2) the French Directorate General for Civil Aviation's (DGAC's) inadequate oversight of the ATR 42 and 72, and its failure to take the necessary corrective action to ensure continued airworthiness in icing conditions; and 3) the DGAC's failure to provide the FAA with timely airworthiness information developed from previous ATR incidents and accidents in icing conditions, as specified under the Bilateral Airworthiness Agreement and Annex 8 of the International Civil Aviation Organization.
You won't lose all lift from icing just some of it ask your dad why didn't he recover from the stall no something else went wrong a bird something else
@@janreldelacruz1674 cold humidity causes ice build up on the wings making it alot heavier and less aerodynamic less lift so the stall speed increased to probably 140 then it starts dropping like you saw so he throttle up opposite rudder stick down but something else was wrong or would have recovered
That was not a "descent", that was a stall that turned into a flat spin. And depending upon the aircraft, can be something that even test pilots can't recover from.
@@fep_ptcp883It's not just that. Many aircraft cannot be recovered after a spin stabilizes. Depends on the aircraft certification, center of gravity , etc.
Apparently, there were reports of heavy icing in the area. What you're looking at is a spin from a deep stall. The pilot almost even manages to recover from it, but the plane just stalls again. This is a symptom of heavy icing on the wings, since once its shape has been altered too much by ice, its stall characteristics change drastically.
I can't understand this one. Looks eerily similar to the Air France crash where the pilots didn't know if they were going too fast or falling. Planes just don't fall out of the sky like this with absolutely no forward momentum. Crazy investigation results in the future I hope.
It can happen with faulty altimeter. They think they are going straight but are actually climbing. Eventually they stall out and the result looks more or less exactly like this.
Yes they do, all the time. It's called a flat spin and results from not being able to recover from a stall at altitude. There was a SIGMET for severe icing over the entire area at the time, and ATR's handle terrible in icing conditions. Icing leads to stall leads to flat spin, rip.
In Airfrance 447 the PF kept pulling back the sidestick despite the stall warning going off throughout most of the crisis time. He kinda made the plane fall like a rock, belly-first. If you are not a rocket, there's no full power engine that will keep you flying if you don't have wings to provide lift (AF447 was kept for a long time in a steep angle of attack and lost its lift, a complete mess and loss of all situational awareness)
@@jeremycovelli Yeah years ago I watched the May Day Disasters show on the ATR that crashed in Indiana, issues with the de-icing system. Like the guy said they made improvements but maybe didn't totally fix the issue.
That's a flat spin. Flat spins are usually unrecoverable without deploying an emergency parachute (if so equipped and there is enough altitude). Once in a flat spin, the plane free-falls to the ground.
Sending tons of love, light, healing, prayers, best wishes and blessings to their familes. The victims are all in a much better place now. At peace, safe, joyful, healthy, young and loved unconditionally with their angels
Statistics tells us that being in a car is more dangerous than flying..but what statistics fails to realize is that you can survive a car accident but you have a 95% probability of dying in the case of a plane crashing.
@@deathvalleydemon41 exactly it may be more car crashes but there a good chance of surviving that.. now it’s a very very slim chance to survive a plane crash.
@@vusky5081 that doesn’t make sense .. your more likely to die in a plane crash than car crash .. there a better chance in surviving car crash than it is plane crash
Correction, if your a Christian you know that your going to be resting in Jesus in your grave until the resurrection, since the dead dont go to heaven at the moment of death ! at the second coming of Jesus the dead in christ will be resurrected and then taken to heaven with those who didnt die. John 5:26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man. “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. @burtcooper612
@@Walton-zf1zx Actually, there`s nothing to correct. Besides, The Apostle Paul, thru The Holy Spirit, made it perfectly clear when he said, "absent from the body, present with the Lord".
@@Sillyrefrigerator really childish for a subject like this. And easy to just sit around and type. I’ve lived through an air incident where most of us wound up with PTSD and still fly. And so the family doesn’t like most of these stories especially the ones caught on camera. But today we just make up names like it’s 5th grade. I’m afraid I know who your role model is.
This is a flat spin. It is the result of a full stall. I can think of 3 options: 1. A catastrophic loss of elevator control. 2. The props were feathered in flight. 3. Intentional sabotage.
I am not an internet aviation expert here. But being in the industry for over a decade, the only thing that can cause that is a loss of speed and the wings did not have enough lift. It caused the plane to stall and go into a flat spin. What caused that will be found in the investigation.
My heart, prayers and condolences go out to all the victims, their families and the people of Brazil as a whole. I’m so sorry for your loss, sending much love from 🇺🇸. ❤🙏💐
@@emmanueljenkins3303 It makes a hell of a difference when we have to prevent the next crash! It is too late to prevent this crash, but when knowing what happened here, the next crash might be prevented - I sort of wrote that twice, didn't I?
@@emmanueljenkins3303that’s a dumb thing to say imo, it’s always important to figure out the factors leading to a vehicle accident especially one that killed 62 people, determining how it happened can prevent a similar situation occurring in the future
The plane was in a flat spin and too slow to recover from the spin. The recover spin procedure is to nose down to recover air speed and use opposite rudder to get the air flow over both wings to get even lift on both wings.
@@Lighttningbolt I asked ChatGPT "Do aircraft black boxes record physical _outputs_ such as deflections on control surfaces?" It answered in a way I would have guessed "Modern FDRs often do but depends on the aircraft"
I'm from Brazil, a pilot who was on that same plane (before this trip) had sent a photo to the control tower showing a huge amount of ice on the side window of the cabin, and asked them to tell the pilot who was going to use that plane after him, maybe that could have changed everything... so this second pilot who died, had asked the tower a few minutes before if he could fly at a lower altitude (because at that altitude more ice was forming than they expected...) but they denied the request, so probably no one told him what his colleague before him had asked, maybe if they had warned him and shown him the photo, he could have already thought about what could be done before and maybe even canceled the trip or something... I'm very sad, the trip would only be 1 hour and 45 minutes more or less... so fast 😭😭😭
So very tragic. My heart reaches out to the families of the victims. R. I. P. Can imagine the terrible moments experienced by the residents in the area when the plane crashed. May you find the strength to rebuild your lives. God have mercy!
The mainstream media has been playing with language for many years now. This isnt anything new. We ALL know that plane FELL out of the sky and crashed.
When someone says stall the average person thinks the engine has stopped . A stall is when a wing loses lift caused by too low speed or wings angle of attack . The wihg stalls stops producing lift resulting in a spin .
The wing stops producing lift, resulting in a STALL. It only becomes a SPIN if it's stalled AND a rotational force is present, and the pilot allows the situation to continue. If the pilot properly manages rudder during the stall, he can prevent the spin, or, even better, breaks the stall by reducing the wing's angle of attack while maintaining proper rudder control. Of course, all of that still doesn't tell us how the pilot managed to stall and spin a transport category aircraft.
@@Tom-ok2rhFormer flight instructor here. Yes, all planes glide, even if all the engines fail. You simply have to lower the nose of the aircraft so that gravity will power it forward, allowing the wings to continue producing lift. Because you are descending you must, of course, find a place to land. In this case, for some reason, the plane entered a stall (which is loss of lift over the wings, not an engine event), and, during the stall, there was a rotational force present, which resulted in a spin. Now, some aircraft are approved for intentional spins, and can be recovered from them even after multiple rotations in a stabilized spin. However, many aircraft, such as airliners, can only be recovered if the spin is caught immediately, in its incipient stage. For some aircraft, once a spin goes past one turn or so, it becomes impossible to recover. The question here is how the pilots allowed the aircraft to stall and spin, and whether or not there were factors beyond their control.
And my irrational fear of flying now feels less irrational 😳 Heartbreaking. I am saddened for the lives lost and for the families and friends of the passengers. What a horrible tragedy 🥺
"According to aviation experts around the world who watched the videos showing the 89-foot plane spinning slowly as it plummeted before crashing almost directly on its belly the question of what had happened was simple to answer: The plane had stalled. In other words the plane’s wings had lost the lift needed to keep the aircraft aloft causing it to stop flying and start falling. “You can’t get into a spin without stalling,” said an airline pilot for 25 years who now aids plane crash investigations. “It’s A plus B equals C.”
The Brazilian transportation board won’t have any problems investigating this crash due to all the videos out there. Hopefully the black box is still intact.
@@ronaldwilliams4053the “black box” shows the last “radio communications” of the plane. The only thing is that these radio communications only capture the flying patterns. You could think of the black box as what holds the last EKG of the plane.
ATRs have had problems with their de-icing systems being half-as#ed before. Like 4 crashes due to it since 1994. If this turns out to be due to icing then I hope several countries get together and force them to finally fully fix the problem.
That is odd. In a stall the pilots can nose down to recover But this looks like a flat spin, which is still recoverable if you have enough altitude, but not from that height.
It just dropped out of the air & hit the ground, so sad, I for the victims families, may they rest in peace & please GOD surround the families with your peace, grace, mercy & love❤
From Pakistan, it is one of the deadliest crash in the history of aviation. The plane fall from the sky so you can imagine the condition of passengers on board when falling. Deepest condolences to the families and pray the souls rest in peace.
@@buzz5969 I wonder if the United States military has ever recovered anything from outside of the world. Maybe they are keeping aliens in a secret bunker
Someone posted a comment stating that _anyone who doesn't know what a SIGMET is doesn't belong on this thread_ As a commercial pilot with several thousand flight hours and two aviation/aerospace university degrees, I was gobsmacked by this! People just watched videos made from multiple angles of a Part 25 transport category aircraft thundering into the ground during a common carrier flight full of non-pilot passengers after a complete departure from controlled flight. They understandably have questions and this is a reasonable place to ask them. Do we, as aviation professionals, believe the non-flying public should just look away, quietly continue to go about their business and leave the crashing to the pros? In this instance, if you *do know* what a SIGMET is but are unwilling to patiently share that expertise and knowledge with others, you don't belong on this thread.
The plane couldn't glide because it was no longer flying. It was in a deep aerodynamic stall that became a fully-developed flat spin. Absolutely horrifying and probably unrecoverable.
It must have been an absolutely terrying situation for those on board. My heart goes out to their families.
To know the planes falling and damn well
Knowing it’s your last moments on earth is the scariest thought. No phones no goodbyes
And knowing the horrific pain that will occur upon crashing. So so sad!!@@zoraplays1009
My heart & thoughts are with their family & friends, too.
Those who believe in the afterlife would know they were about to crossover into another dimension. I guess that would either comfort those people more or cause even more terror depending on how they lived their lives.
yeah i have a severe fear of plane riding... ugh
Horrible to see. I dare not imagine the last seconds of life of these poor people who saw death coming without being able to do anything about it. May they rest in peace.
That’s beyond what any one of us can imagine. Absolute horror, I’m sure.😢
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@@MikeJH82 they literally experienced every second of horror... Unfortunately.. may they Rest in Peace my condolences for the Families.
Terrifying from when they spin out of control, everyone was alive. To crash, death must of been quick. Waiting to die must of been awful.
You mean the terror like your mom saw when she gave birth to you, You mean like that terror.
God bless their souls. I just sent my son back home on a plane this morning and seeing this gives me chills. RIP
@freddyp319 Hey there Freddy I hope this finds you well is your boy ok? I wish him safe travels my boy
I know right and it gives you the chills when your flying like this
Praying your son arrives home safely!
yeh man, i have a severe fear of being on planes. i still do it sometimes but its hard... i always feel like "this is the one"
@@freddyp319 I hope your son is alright because this was one horrible accident
From Egypt, Our thoughts are with the Brazilian people as they mourn the victims of a tragic plane crash. We send our deepest condolences to the families of the victims. 🇪🇬 🇧🇷
Thank you 😢
Thank you 😢
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Can't imagine their last moments. 😔Please give their families and friends strength.
You know the news is horrible when the news doesn’t have music in the background.
True ❤
News with background music?? Never experienced this where are you reporting that news has background music...we only get intro themes and exit themes.
@@captng I mainly listen to the news on television, but listening to the news on mobile made me realize there is no background music. I’m Pakistani and the news channels there always have music in the background.
In Brazil the news have music
@@SergeyTaboritsky69 I know I have seen that. For example they'll show a person with loss and play sad music in the background. Talk about classless media.
From the USA... Our hearts go out to the families of these unfortunate passengers and crew.. so sad...
yours
@@angeec.3312 thanks! it's a dark day in Brazil. terrible...
And the people who lost their homes or jobs in the crash.
Also from the USA... Please stop crashing me in Gran Turismo.
@@travisgoesthereYeah yours.
I'm from Brazil.
This airline, VoePass (which used to be Passaredo) is not an unknown airline.
They've been operating for almost 30 years and this is the first in their history (counting the time they were Passaredo). It's a regional airline (if I'm not mistaken, it's the only regional airline that operates out of São Paulo airports). So yes, it's a serious airline.
This is the first accident involving an ATR airplane in Brazil and the first commercial airplane accident in 17 years since the accident involving the A320 of TAM Flight 3054 (which is now LATAM, which even has codeshare with VoePass), an accident that happened on 07/17/2007.
wasn't there also a commercial passenger plane crash in Recife in 2011? that being sad, rest in piece for all aboard the plane
What about the chapecoense crash? When was that?
@@jeanrivillas8463that happened in Colombia, although the plane was coming from Brazil
@@jeanrivillas8463 It was not in Brazil!
@@jeanrivillas8463that happened in Bolivia or somewhere in that area. The passengers were mostly Brazilians though
Edit: nvm it was actually in Colombia
Some information about this terrible tragedy. Firstly, I want to say that all of us Brazilians are devastated. Such is the pain, as it had been years since a plane crash had happened in Brazil. Today is Father's Day Sunday here. 08/11/2024 On this flight, it is worth mentioning that 61 lives were lost. And that includes around 21 doctors who were traveling to São Paulo to give a lecture, people who spent their lives saving lives, lost it on this flight. In addition to a father, who was traveling with his 4-year-old daughter, to celebrate Father's Day with her, he had picked her up especially to spend today with her, and I can't imagine the pain of this mother who lost a daughter , and the father of her daughter. I can't imagine the father's despair in those last seconds. There was also a Venezuelan couple on this flight. They had adopted a dog here in Brazil called Luna, everyone had helped so that the dog Luna could board with the couple, as they had fallen in love with her. The dog was found near the couple. In addition to daughters, mothers, grandmothers, many family members, on this plane was someone's love, someone's life that was gone in seconds. I couldn't bear such pain. All we Brazilians want is respect and prayers, as we are a people of faith, a united people, and sensitive to each other's pain. I'm very proud of my country. When one goes off course, everyone feels
Todos nós estamos consternados com essa tragédia! Que apareça o real motivo que provocou essa queda, e se foi por negligência que haja a devida punição aos responsáveis! Lembrando que a família de Venezuelanos além do cachorrinha também estavam com uma criança, o garotinho tinha uns 4 anos, morreram juntos! Há vídeo dele e da outra garotinha que faleceu na queda brincando juntos no aeroporto! 😭
I wish I didn't read this😢
I couldn’t imagine how those poor people felt knowing they were falling to their deaths. My thoughts are with those poor people. Peace & love
No control. Absolute zero . You're just falling to your death. That feeling, I cannot fathom. I will never fly. That plane, literally, dropped out of the sky.
They felt weightless.
@@tamevauch5948 commercial jets are VERY safe compared to automobiles and private airplanes.
Can't imagine how terrifying that must have been in those final moments. I hope the investigators can bring some closure for those families.
g force is too strong, they problably passed out
22 year pilot here. That is from complete loss of lift in which the aircraft is no longer capable of flight. This is not induced by engine failure. Highly likely severe icing
That sounds like black ice in the sky, like when a car spins out.
It seems to be a known trait with the ATR, happened back in the US in 1994
Rime
And incompetence in the cockpit.
Severe icing?? Can u explain like I'm 5 please
Just horrifying for the people on board.
for sure. listen to the blackbox from the uberlingen 2002 crash if you wanna hear how intense a crash can be
I can't even imagine.😢
@@GregHuffman1987looks like a deliberate act by pilot to stall/spin the plane. Planes don’t fall out of the sky otherwise…they can glide it.
Where can i listen to it??@@GregHuffman1987
I thought it was a high-tech plane that went down vertically.
Flat spin has to be one of the scariest ways to crash in a plane. It’s literal free fall with your stomach in your throat. Those poor people lived a nightmare until the end feel so bad for them.
Many ages ago, we lost an F4 pilot and radar men due to a flat spin. It was at low altitude, and just barely on radar. Made a hellva crater. And the crew, they didn't make it. And it was the squadron's best flying aircraft with the least amount of problems. As for the crew, the G-forces were so high, the accident investigators suspected the crew was instantly pinned to their seats and couldn't do anyhting.
Yes...we CAN recover from flat spin....providing you have enough space and time..!!...As seen..No hope of recovery..!!...Hopefully Black Box will detail this awful disaster..!!!
Um, no? Besides it was like a muhammad cheek right?
Dear God I just want to lift up my prayers to everyone please heal and comfort everyone in Brazil 🇧🇷 God bless you all much love 💚
How about not letting a plane crash or children getting cancer, he isn’t real, sorry.
Obrigado.
He could have prevented the crash, no?
Not sure how you can heal and comfort charred corpses 😂
Brazil mocks Jesus in their carnavals and now when in trouble they pray to Him!?
My God. My condolences to the victims' family and the entire nation of Brazil. My heart goes to you. This is so painful to watch.
And all of my 56 years I have never seen an airplane crash like that. I used to work for an airline. I’ve seen a lot of things. This is not one of them.
it stalled and entered a flat spin
@@xwhalerfann6 planes dont just stall.
@@DieselRamchargerTrue. Then what do you speculate?
@radiohead2206 So, the plane doesn't glide like paper airplane? We're not talking helicopter here... because that is how majority of helicopter crash are... I'm looking from an uneducated stand point here.
@@DieselRamcharger There was a SIGMET for severe icing over the whole region. If you don't know what a SIGMET is, you have no business in this conversation. 🙄
That bird got into a flat spin… that is a rarity in itself…
That's the result of a stall.... 100%.
@sunnyjim1355 - Yeah, it's gotta be. I wonder how they got themselves into that mess. I've never actually seen a bigger passenger aircraft just dropping like that. It was pretty wild looking.
How do you get a plane into a flat spin like that?
@@sunnyjim1355
Lost lift and airspeed.
How terrifying for all on the plane, on the ground and the families left behind. Condolences from Oregon, USA.
I like how she says "It appears to show a fire truck and an ambulance responding" as what every person on Earth knows is a fire truck and an ambulance drive by.
I thought it was an Ice Cream Truck...
no kidding what a clown
For blind people
It is helpful for blind people listening to the news.
@@user-gf3wn1ne9n Wouldn't even a blind person know there will be firetrucks and rescue peope there without anyone reminding you that there are fire trucks and rescue on the way
Brings in plane expert:
"The plane was no longer flying"
😂😂😂😂
what else do you want him to say lol? there's not enough information right now to really know.
Well I mean idk why you would need to make up some extremely complicated answer as to why it “fell out of the sky”. He got straight to the point. It “lost aerodynamics and was no longer flying” and started to spin and it crashed simple. 💀
The answer is likely icing resulting in loss of lift and a stall. It was flying through clouds at what would likely be icing conditions: ~60 degrees F at the ground, likely below freezing at the altitude the plane was at, being that far from its destination.
@@unflinching6057high elevation too
Wow. Seeing a medium sized plane like that in a completely flat stall is...strange doesn't even do it justice. Even with complete engine failure the expectation is that the plane would still have some amount of forward glide during decent, but that plane was just going straight down. That's not just a "something went wrong" kind of incident, that's a "multiple VERY bad somethings had to have gone wrong all together" type of incident.
severe icing.. enough to even lock the aerosurfaces.
@@jeremycovelli it looks like the plane had problems for awhile. the speedometer for it was running crazy the entire flight, and past flights too. there's certainly multiple reasons as to why this happened
I was looking for this comment. Never seen a plane fall that straight down. Possibly combination of engine failure and pilot error.
@@caylarabdk8389 and....no one bothered to fix it?
@@jeremycovelli Does the plane have an anti-icing system? Was it turned on and operating normally.
This is heartbreaking to watch. My condolences to all these poor families.
Imagine being on a metal box falling from the sky for 2 min and knowing that death is imminent, that’s crazy
You mean flying coffin
@Yall2geyyy00 G forces will pin you against something so you couldn't get in position to use chute.
I absolutely cannot imagine that fear. I will not fly. Ever.
@Honey, Id be repenting of my sins real quick
@@tamevauch5948 I flew when I was younger but you couldnt pay me to fly now
This really hurts my heart. Their families...
My heart is broken , I am Brazilian , my son living in that area
I hope your son is ok momma and I hope your ok too ❤
PRAYING FOR ALL.❤
I hope that your dear son is safe 🙏 Please accept my deepest condolences from Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada 🙏😭💔🇨🇦
My daughter flew out of Brazil Wednesday. My heart goes out to everyone.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hope she's doing okay and you as well, stay safe ❤
💚🇧🇷🙏
Thank you, God bless your family.
On that plane there was a 5-year-old girl who was traveling with her father to spend Father's Day together (last Sunday was Father's Day here in Brazil), when the firefighters went to collect the bodies, the two were hugging each other. There was also a Venezuelan child who was with a puppy, all of them were found charred (including the dog itself), all the passengers were found charred. This accident was very tragic and much heavier than you guys imagine and the families are devastated, there were many people whose dreams were interrupted and they lost their lives. At this moment there is not much to ask questions or question because unfortunately we do not have all the answers, just pray for the families, friends and loved ones of the victims, Please pray for the families! 🙏 I wish everyone reading this a great day/night and good health always!
I just saw the new information about the accident on TV, all the bodies were charred to the point that they could not be identified by fingerprints, some victims had already been identified and what saddened me most was a father and a 3-year-old daughter who was traveled with him to celebrate Father's Day
I'm from Brazil and it has been hard for us. Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers. R.I.P for those involved in this tragic air crash.
Prayers to the families and the victims😢
talking to your imaginary friend doesnt do anything , but nice virtue signalling
@@travisgoesthere Nice!
@@travisgoestherestop disrespecting people's beliefs!
@@walkinbeauty7273 no lol
@@travisgoesthere😂 hilarious it bothers you
Devastating. My heart goes out to all the families, witnesses, and everyone impacted. 💔
It's very horrifying watching a plane crash to the ground.
My deepest condolences to the families and friends of the victims of this horrible crash from Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada 😭💔🇨🇦
That plane wasn’t descending, it stalled and was falling. I suspect iced wings.
correct, the wings are frozen
Quite possible, but there are other possibilities as well.
I watched an old UA-cam documentary on the same plane, unfortunately icing was the usual cause but we don't know as yet. God bless them all, your worst nightmare.
The aircraft stalled for some reason and was in a nearly flat spin. With no aerodynamic lift, it literally became a brick. That type of thing is all but impossible for a pilot to
recover from. The question is why it happened--all but unheard of with a trained and experienced flight crew, unless there was a critical mechanical issue of some sort.
It's a "T-Tail", one that clearly entered a "deep stall", from which it is almost impossible to recover. I'm going to presume it was another example of an ill-advised turn at some point in the approach. Straigh-on, approach to landing stalls have become rare.
It is possible to recover from such a situation, (counter the spin with the rudder, while turning the nose down until the plane goes into a dive - then once there's enought airflow over the wings again to produce lift, then it can pull out of the dive) but of course you need enough altitude to be able to perform that maneuver.... which it clearly didn't have anyway. RIP
@@sunnyjim1355glad someone else called it out. Anyone who has taken lessons has practiced spin recovery.
@@sunnyjim1355yeah for that to happen the plane has to be much higher 🙄
I dont trust the planes bro to me airports are closer to jim jones camps because you papers please theres only 6 vending machines for everyone and then you give up your 4th amendment as well they will frisk a child they will send you through scanners they search your bags and at the end of the day the boeing still falls outta the sky man 😂😂😂
Absolutely terrifying 😢
the video of the plane spinning uncontrollably before hitting the ground is extremely heartbreaking, I extend my heartfelt condolences to the families and friends of the victims, it's a sad day for humanity and aviation
My dad is a former Airline captain (flew the a320/330 for 20 years, is flying private jets now) and when he saw the news on TV just 15 minutes after the crash he sent in our family group in Whatsapp "It was icing, 100%.", just by the way the plane fell. The ATR is very infamous for his icing problems
So they're infamous for this but still allowed to fly. Why? The FAA parked the 737 Max for two years, allowing this craft to fly on US soil. They are a bunch of hypocrites
From the crash investigation from american eagle flight 4184: The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable causes of this accident were the loss of control, attributed to a sudden and unexpected aileron hinge moment reversal that occurred after a ridge of ice accreted beyond the deice boots because: 1) ATR failed to completely disclose to operators, and incorporate in the ATR 72 airplane flight manual, flightcrew operating manual and flightcrew training programs, adequate information concerning previously known effects of freezing precipitation on the stability and control characteristics, autopilot and related operational procedures when the ATR 72 was operated in such conditions; 2) the French Directorate General for Civil Aviation's (DGAC's) inadequate oversight of the ATR 42 and 72, and its failure to take the necessary corrective action to ensure continued airworthiness in icing conditions; and 3) the DGAC's failure to provide the FAA with timely airworthiness information developed from previous ATR incidents and accidents in icing conditions, as specified under the Bilateral Airworthiness Agreement and Annex 8 of the International Civil Aviation Organization.
You won't lose all lift from icing just some of it ask your dad why didn't he recover from the stall no something else went wrong a bird something else
What do you mean icing?
@@janreldelacruz1674 cold humidity causes ice build up on the wings making it alot heavier and less aerodynamic less lift so the stall speed increased to probably 140 then it starts dropping like you saw so he throttle up opposite rudder stick down but something else was wrong or would have recovered
150,000 flights each day. And you go months between accidents. Sad, but way more safe than driving a car. Way way safer.
Wow . I’m so sorry . My condolences Brazil 🇧🇷
That was not a "descent", that was a stall that turned into a flat spin. And depending upon the aircraft, can be something that even test pilots can't recover from.
There's just so much altitude you can lose before you can't recover anymore
@@fep_ptcp883It's not just that. Many aircraft cannot be recovered after a spin stabilizes. Depends on the aircraft certification, center of gravity , etc.
@@fep_ptcp883 most if not all medium to big size planes, cant recover from a flat spin.
May all those on the flight, and those who may have perished at the residential crash site, rest in peace. 🙏🏼🥀
Não houve vitimas do solo, somente passageiros e tripulantes 😢
Unbelievably the plane crashed on the lawn practically next to the house.
Our hearts with you Brazil 🇵🇸 😢
❤🇵🇸🇧🇷😢
Thanks. 🇧🇷😔
Es ist so grausam zu sehen wie sie vom Himmel fallen. Allen Angehörigen viel Kraft und mögen ihre Seelen in Frieden ruhen 🙏🌹
Those poor souls. Prayers to them, their families, and the ppl on the ground 😢
Very sad!! My profound sympathy . From Georgetown Guyana.
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very unnerving when you're in the sky and you know you're not going to make it.. survived??😢 no way anybody made it
Sou apenas um brasileiro, mas agradeço a todas as manifestações de carinho e solidariedade. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Apparently, there were reports of heavy icing in the area.
What you're looking at is a spin from a deep stall. The pilot almost even manages to recover from it, but the plane just stalls again.
This is a symptom of heavy icing on the wings, since once its shape has been altered too much by ice, its stall characteristics change drastically.
In this day and age they should have de-icers installed that automatically detect ice and get to work in real time
@@freedomofspeech766the plane had de-icers but for some reason they malfunctioned.
I can't understand this one. Looks eerily similar to the Air France crash where the pilots didn't know if they were going too fast or falling. Planes just don't fall out of the sky like this with absolutely no forward momentum. Crazy investigation results in the future I hope.
It can happen with faulty altimeter. They think they are going straight but are actually climbing. Eventually they stall out and the result looks more or less exactly like this.
Yes they do, all the time. It's called a flat spin and results from not being able to recover from a stall at altitude. There was a SIGMET for severe icing over the entire area at the time, and ATR's handle terrible in icing conditions. Icing leads to stall leads to flat spin, rip.
In Airfrance 447 the PF kept pulling back the sidestick despite the stall warning going off throughout most of the crisis time. He kinda made the plane fall like a rock, belly-first. If you are not a rocket, there's no full power engine that will keep you flying if you don't have wings to provide lift (AF447 was kept for a long time in a steep angle of attack and lost its lift, a complete mess and loss of all situational awareness)
severe icing conditions.. wings iced up, locked the controls, caused a stall, then went into a flat spin.
@@jeremycovelli Yeah years ago I watched the May Day Disasters show on the ATR that crashed in Indiana, issues with the de-icing system. Like the guy said they made improvements but maybe didn't totally fix the issue.
That plane just fell out of the air. I wasn’t descending, it was falling!
😢that's what I was thinking
I dont trust the planes at all
Was probably a stall
@@ianm8218 No kidding. The question is more why than what.
Technically, it was being pulled towards the earth by gravity.
That's a flat spin. Flat spins are usually unrecoverable without deploying an emergency parachute (if so equipped and there is enough altitude). Once in a flat spin, the plane free-falls to the ground.
No commercial planes have emergency parachutes.
This is so scary, RIP crew and passengers.
Sending tons of love, light, healing, prayers, best wishes and blessings to their familes. The victims are all in a much better place now. At peace, safe, joyful, healthy, young and loved unconditionally with their angels
I am Brazilian and it is very sad for all of us.
Omg, cant even imagine the horror being inside that. Rip 😢
Statistics tells us that being in a car is more dangerous than flying..but what statistics fails to realize is that you can survive a car accident but you have a 95% probability of dying in the case of a plane crashing.
That’s what I telling people.
@@deathvalleydemon41 exactly it may be more car crashes but there a good chance of surviving that.. now it’s a very very slim chance to survive a plane crash.
The probability of dying in a car crash at any given moment is a lot higher than dying in a plane crash? You're missing the point entirely here.
@@vusky5081 that doesn’t make sense .. your more likely to die in a plane crash than car crash .. there a better chance in surviving car crash than it is plane crash
You literally used statistics to state the last sentence. Where did you get the 95%?
This is so terrifying and sad. Minhas condolências a todas as famílias, que todas essas pessoas descansem em paz.
I am from brazil this is horrible acident 😢
Imagine how’s those people are going through their minds when the plane start to fall! What a Terrible Disaster!
If you`re a Christian, you know you`ll be going to heaven. That`s why God said, "Repent and believe or you`ll die in your sins".
I thought Jesus died for the sins of all Christian’s?
So so sad
Correction, if your a Christian you know that your going to be resting in Jesus in your grave until the resurrection, since the dead dont go to heaven at the moment of death ! at the second coming of Jesus the dead in christ will be resurrected and then taken to heaven with those who didnt die.
John 5:26
For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man. “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
@burtcooper612
@@Walton-zf1zx Actually, there`s nothing to correct. Besides, The Apostle Paul, thru The Holy Spirit, made it perfectly clear when he said, "absent from the body, present with the Lord".
This is one video I won’t be showing my family. Real life terror. God bless those passengers and crew.
It's terror watching the video. My mind went to as if I was on board.
@@elsierodgers4874, it’s good to have empathy. Evidently you do.
Pansy
@@Sillyrefrigeratorwtf
@@Sillyrefrigerator really childish for a subject like this. And easy to just sit around and type. I’ve lived through an air incident where most of us wound up with PTSD and still fly. And so the family doesn’t like most of these stories especially the ones caught on camera. But today we just make up names like it’s 5th grade. I’m afraid I know who your role model is.
This is a flat spin. It is the result of a full stall. I can think of 3 options: 1. A catastrophic loss of elevator control. 2. The props were feathered in flight. 3. Intentional sabotage.
Or icing.
4. ice accumulation on the wings as it has been stated there was ice warnings at the altitude the plane was flying at.
Genuine question; how does icing cause a stall like this?! I know nothing about flying!
Mud daubers insects put mud in the small holes and messed with the flight gages before and caused a crash like this ?
Could it have been no fuel or tainted fuel???
Amazing how we have so many "aviation experts" in the comment section who have no clue what they are talking about :)
So how about you mr expert enlighten everyone what you think happened
Buddy you're not smart for acting like you're different and better
Then how about you tell us what went down
I saw this on the news, and seeing that plane just fall like that.. absolute chills.
My Lord help those people on board
The Lord will help the ones who believed in Him.
I am not an internet aviation expert here. But being in the industry for over a decade, the only thing that can cause that is a loss of speed and the wings did not have enough lift. It caused the plane to stall and go into a flat spin. What caused that will be found in the investigation.
There are other causes of a aerodynamic stall beyond the one you cite.
Could an EMP cause this?
@@seycheles27 maybe ice, bad weather in Southeast Brazil today
Your theory made sense but what causes loss of speed.
Could it be a massive air pocket.?
@@boyasia5874 ice can reduce lift on the wings, interfere with instruments, etc. but I have no specific knowledge
😢 My Condolences to all their families! Oh my God🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
My heart, prayers and condolences go out to all the victims, their families and the people of Brazil as a whole. I’m so sorry for your loss, sending much love from 🇺🇸. ❤🙏💐
Sickening crash. Weird how this video has ad's yet so many other aviation UA-camrs have it demonetized.
Flat spin rather than spiral dive.
@@emmanueljenkins3303 It makes a hell of a difference when we have to prevent the next crash! It is too late to prevent this crash, but when knowing what happened here, the next crash might be prevented - I sort of wrote that twice, didn't I?
@@emmanueljenkins3303that’s a dumb thing to say imo, it’s always important to figure out the factors leading to a vehicle accident especially one that killed 62 people, determining how it happened can prevent a similar situation occurring in the future
He was still spiraling
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@@leifvejby8023 it was needed for you to write it twice
That's a flat spin. He straight up stalled
The plane was in a flat spin and too slow to recover from the spin. The recover spin procedure is to nose down to recover air speed and use opposite rudder to get the air flow over both wings to get even lift on both wings.
Was there any evidence of nosing down?
@@OghamTheBold In a spin the nose oscillates up and down falling slowly. In the video there was no spin recovery evident.
@@OghamTheBold yes
@@Lighttningbolt I asked ChatGPT "Do aircraft black boxes record physical _outputs_ such as deflections on control surfaces?" It answered in a way I would have guessed "Modern FDRs often do but depends on the aircraft"
@@OghamTheBold deflections on control surfaces? what do you mean, Maybe if the servo had an encoder on it but thats not on the suface, thats internal
I'm from Brazil, a pilot who was on that same plane (before this trip) had sent a photo to the control tower showing a huge amount of ice on the side window of the cabin, and asked them to tell the pilot who was going to use that plane after him, maybe that could have changed everything... so this second pilot who died, had asked the tower a few minutes before if he could fly at a lower altitude (because at that altitude more ice was forming than they expected...) but they denied the request, so probably no one told him what his colleague before him had asked, maybe if they had warned him and shown him the photo, he could have already thought about what could be done before and maybe even canceled the trip or something... I'm very sad, the trip would only be 1 hour and 45 minutes more or less... so fast 😭😭😭
Wow
So very tragic. My heart reaches out to the families of the victims. R. I. P. Can imagine the terrible moments experienced by the residents in the area when the plane crashed. May you find the strength to rebuild your lives. God have mercy!
She called it a descent... That was dropping like a stone.
She's clueless like most reporters
A dropping stone is also descending, is it not?
The mainstream media has been playing with language for many years now. This isnt anything new. We ALL know that plane FELL out of the sky and crashed.
When someone says stall the average person thinks the engine has stopped . A stall is when a wing loses lift caused by too low speed or wings angle of attack . The wihg stalls stops producing lift resulting in a spin .
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
So not being an aeronautical expert was there some sort of way to glide it on the descent instead of falling like a rock?
The wing stops producing lift, resulting in a STALL. It only becomes a SPIN if it's stalled AND a rotational force is present, and the pilot allows the situation to continue. If the pilot properly manages rudder during the stall, he can prevent the spin, or, even better, breaks the stall by reducing the wing's angle of attack while maintaining proper rudder control. Of course, all of that still doesn't tell us how the pilot managed to stall and spin a transport category aircraft.
@@Tom-ok2rhFormer flight instructor here. Yes, all planes glide, even if all the engines fail. You simply have to lower the nose of the aircraft so that gravity will power it forward, allowing the wings to continue producing lift. Because you are descending you must, of course, find a place to land. In this case, for some reason, the plane entered a stall (which is loss of lift over the wings, not an engine event), and, during the stall, there was a rotational force present, which resulted in a spin. Now, some aircraft are approved for intentional spins, and can be recovered from them even after multiple rotations in a stabilized spin. However, many aircraft, such as airliners, can only be recovered if the spin is caught immediately, in its incipient stage. For some aircraft, once a spin goes past one turn or so, it becomes impossible to recover. The question here is how the pilots allowed the aircraft to stall and spin, and whether or not there were factors beyond their control.
@@philipr.6090 appreciate the detailed response. I’m guessing the investigation might uncover why the plane unfortunately went down the way it did.
And my irrational fear of flying now feels less irrational 😳
Heartbreaking. I am saddened for the lives lost and for the families and friends of the passengers. What a horrible tragedy 🥺
about a 100,000 aircrafts take off and land safely daily
"According to aviation experts around the world who watched the videos showing the 89-foot plane spinning slowly as it plummeted before crashing almost directly on its belly the question of what had happened was simple to answer: The plane had stalled. In other words the plane’s wings had lost the lift needed to keep the aircraft aloft causing it to stop flying and start falling. “You can’t get into a spin without stalling,” said an airline pilot for 25 years who now aids plane crash investigations. “It’s A plus B equals C.”
I like how I had to watch an ad for flight sales before I could watch....
The Brazilian transportation board won’t have any problems investigating this crash due to all the videos out there. Hopefully the black box is still intact.
Isn't that what was causing them planes to nose dive back down. At 10k feet when they put that new tech in them
@ronaldwilliams4053 what new tech are you talking about?
I don't know if these smaller planes have black boxes
@@ronaldwilliams4053the “black box” shows the last “radio communications” of the plane. The only thing is that these radio communications only capture the flying patterns. You could think of the black box as what holds the last EKG of the plane.
@@leogama3422There are a lot smaller aircraft (in recent decades) that carry flight recorders
Surprised it’s an ATR and not Boeing.
ATRs have had problems with their de-icing systems being half-as#ed before. Like 4 crashes due to it since 1994. If this turns out to be due to icing then I hope several countries get together and force them to finally fully fix the problem.
@@BirdieRumia it is icing, its about to be confirmed
Somebody said their was 3 boeng employees on board
Prayers for the families
That is odd. In a stall the pilots can nose down to recover
But this looks like a flat spin, which is still recoverable if you have enough altitude, but not from that height.
Their families 💔🙏🏾 i can't imagine what they are going through
It just dropped out of the air & hit the ground, so sad, I for the victims families, may they rest in peace & please GOD surround the families with your peace, grace, mercy & love❤
Something seriously wrong there.
From what I read 8 cancer doctors where on it
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That is horrible to watch! Never see a bug plane falling like a kite, just sad
From Pakistan, it is one of the deadliest crash in the history of aviation. The plane fall from the sky so you can imagine the condition of passengers on board when falling. Deepest condolences to the families and pray the souls rest in peace.
So tragic! Rest in peace 😢.
I took a flight last night and here I am safe and sound! Never take your safety for granted when you fly.
Tragic for all concerned. RIP !
Why has a UFO never been captured on video and then lots of people have gone to see the crash site???
Because Bigfoots are driving them amigo, Bigfoots have better stealth than any military has.🤓
@@buzz5969 I wonder if the United States military has ever recovered anything from outside of the world. Maybe they are keeping aliens in a secret bunker
I could never be a flight attendant
@@angelminaj617 I work in the airport and see them all the time and always think how can they do it.
Someone posted a comment stating that _anyone who doesn't know what a SIGMET is doesn't belong on this thread_
As a commercial pilot with several thousand flight hours and two aviation/aerospace university degrees, I was gobsmacked by this!
People just watched videos made from multiple angles of a Part 25 transport category aircraft thundering into the ground during a common carrier flight full of non-pilot passengers after a complete departure from controlled flight.
They understandably have questions and this is a reasonable place to ask them. Do we, as aviation professionals, believe the non-flying public should just look away, quietly continue to go about their business and leave the crashing to the pros?
In this instance, if you *do know* what a SIGMET is but are unwilling to patiently share that expertise and knowledge with others, you don't belong on this thread.
Boy that Stall and the Fall afterwards I just can’t even imagine… God Rest there souls! 😢❤
God be with these people's family right now, Aman
Crash? It fell out of the sky! WTF! 😮 God bless those lost souls!
If I can't drive,I ain't going
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same. i don’t care about the statistics
Bro took the words right outta my mouth lol
this is effing INSANE! The plane straight up dropped! No nose down no glide just straight up fell like theres a suction
The plane couldn't glide because it was no longer flying. It was in a deep aerodynamic stall that became a fully-developed flat spin. Absolutely horrifying and probably unrecoverable.
oh my god 😢
rip for victims and😢condolences for their families