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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Is there a final answer to end the great PC vs console debate once and for all?
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ATTENTION ALL PC GAMERS.
Give me one good reason pc gaming is actually better than consoles aside from
Better Graphics
Better Audio
Better Gaming Experience
Better/Faster Patch/Update Support
Better Online Gameplay
Higher Frame Rate
Higher Resolutions
MODS
Backwards Compatibility
More Exclusives
More Games
More Mature Community
More Community Support
More Precise Controls
More Options/Customization For controls/Visuals/Monitors/Software/Everything
MORE FREEDOM!
Steam Sales
Cheaper (Both Initial Cost For Budget Builds And Obviously In The long Run Compared To Consoles)
Cheaper Games
Cheaper Upgrades
More Customizability
Better Indie Games
Multitasking
Easier To Navigate Internet
Broader Software Support
A Quiet Gaming Experience
Burning DVD/Blurays
Larger Choice And Cheaper Peripherals
Emulators
Tweaking
Overclocking
Water Cooling
Faster Loading TIme
Free Online Gameplay
A Choice In Hardware Brands
Longer Lasting Warranty
Upgradeable
More Free To Play Games...
Bet you can't
Fuckin pc peasants
+MeeserNobody You can actually do work on a PC.
Laptops (yeah, i don't see any consoles with batteries, no PSVITA doesn't count)
Dedicated decoders in newer CPUs and GPUs, so you can play h264 and the new h265 videos at minimal power consumption (or, with super cheap computers).
PS: i get your point, just wanted to add to your list.
+MeeserNobody Compatibility. As described in the video, there are tens of thousands of games to play (most not just on Steam). This doesn't even include emulators which allow you to play games from almost any console there is. ex: You want to play COD but rage quit and fire up some Mario Kart. After failing miserably, you decide to relax and play some Worms with your pals. The possibilities are much greater than being restricted to the titles of one specific console. Also as +Christoffer Norskov said, you are investing in a machine to do work and other things than gaming.
+MeeserNobody WHAT ELSE DO YOU EVEN NEED?
YES, all that a console does not have it
+MeeserNobody ...you dont need brains for a console, so there. Console people win because they can be stupid!
I prefer board-games because of the real life graphics, low latency and high resolution.
Yayyyy praise Robbaz
Yes
agreed. become a board-game today ;) lol
Can't see more than 64 pixels anyway
yeah but the UI is terrible
"Halo is a console exclusive"
That's how you know this video was made in 2014
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Bruh pc has half of the master chief collection. Also if you buy every halo that is released on it, when MCC is fully released, it will be $100 in total.
POTATO IS LIFE AND LIFE IS POTATO
@PC GAMING IS DEAD we dont pay to play multiplayer
@PC GAMING IS DEAD consoles are a lot cheaper than pc tho
The controllers are wireless “shows wired controllers”
Only 78 likes in 6 months :(((
The overall point he was making still stands. Controllers are convenient for sitting back on a couch, while mouse and keyboard are optimal for sitting at a desk.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 cuz it gives more focus to the game. Thats why console gamers are noob. They are so bad that the console has an inbuilt summit
@@Mark-mh3fc What's wrong in being noob and why do you even care? Not everyone plays games to be champion player of the world.
If you're intelligent and think for yourself, PC. If you're average and tend to follow the crowd, console.
I'm guessing you own a console.
Or if you just want to play your damn game and dont give a crap about pixels, console.
***** Not really, consoles are a liberty-for-convenience trade. Though I wouldn't say choosing them makes you stupid, maybe you just don't care.
I have both
trolling again this evening *****?
The main problem is that consoles make PC games worse.
Well not really worse but instead I can say it's slow the creativity down that the dev has to dismiss everything altogether or find another alternative to their creativities.
Nope, it's the developers. Why should they put in effort for a really good pc port when people on consoles pay more for there games aswell as knowing every xbone will be the same set up minimizing the chances of bugs. That being said, it seems like games are designed with this in mind from day one so everything feels a little more diluted.
Tom Nicklin Well one thing I couldnt agree with is the "minimizing the chances of bugs" one prime example of the game is AC Unity - on all 3 platform all get their own 'exclusive' bugs, lol.
***** nope, it's about how much less powerful the consoles are compared to most PC users. Even a mid-ranged PC (FX6300 and R9 270X) is much more capable of higher resolution and high FPS than consoles are.
***** Right but there will most of the time be more bugs on pc because people have different hardware and different software at the same time and it's an inevitability.
Love how 4K monitors were considered high-end in 2014... And still are in 2020 xD
Not really. You can buy an Asus 4K monitor for like $250 on Amazon
@@bluepeng8895 most people wouldn't spend 240 USD on a monitor.
@@eyeofterra You're right, that's way too cheap
@@bluepeng8895 price point doesn’t mean if it’s high end or not, 4k is still high end, mostly due to screen size limitation 8k monitors are typically 32inch which tbh in my opinion is too big.
@@bluepeng8895 Not everybody has a rich dad to buy a 240 USD monitor
PC: Meh
Console: meh
Smart Fridge with minecraft: yes
Printer with DOOM: take my money!
@@ID-107 1 frame per minute
@@toyota6450. Well, not exactly
watch?v=NPWi5yJK3zo
Lol “smart frig”
Kids: MOM CAN I MINECRAFT AT THE FRIDGE
Some people asked me "Why did you buy PS4 when you already have an expensive gaming PC?"
My answer is "I will let you play all day with my PS4 but you can never lay hands on my PC!" :)
Nathaniel Morada This is so damn true lol. Last time my console was on when my cousin visited. Other than that, I keep ps4 because some games will not be on steam *cough*dragon age*cough*
+Michael Makoa Because Origin sucks? Like holy hell origin is a piece of cheap shit some IT student could best in 10 minutes. Thats why
+minibugsminecraft It's still 50X better than uplay, FUCK UPLAY!!
The Radish Yeah, fuck UPLAY
+minibugsminecraft
Origin doesn't change the gameplay, what the fuck is the issue?
Real enemy is mobile
Hahahah
Facts
Around the year 2012 mobile games where actually pretty good. The Lootbox wave clearly hit mobile gaming pretty hard.
@@neuromancer692 it is bad anyways but I can agree that in 2012 it was in its best
Pff, gamers? They are peasents.
The real thing holding back consoles is paying for online play
Jonathan
it's Joseph
Who is this though 🧐
definitely
YES YES
Gamers: It's harder to cheat on consoles.
Me: Laughs in split-screen screen peeking.
So if you're hands down stupid, buy a console?
If you can't be bothered to save money, because it's most likely not your own and you don't care about quality, buy a console.
If you found this video, you're smart enough to use a pc.
And you're idiotic enough to not know that most devices these day can play youtube videos -.-
TheXM25 Because your average idiot would look at tech videos... I wasn't talking about the device one is using, but about being interested enough to look at this channel.
Paddzr "Average idiot" here. I game on Xbox One and Wii U, and my enthusiast-grade rig is for development.
What was your argument again?
TheRedButterfly Nothing wrong with Wii U, but buying xbox to do the same things PC can do is waste of money, but suit yourself.
Paddzr Ahh yes, but PC doesn't have Halo... Which was Linus's entire point.
Edit for the inbreds who can't use rational thought:
Ahh yes, but PC doesn't have Halo support... and won't be receiving anything other than the 10+ year old variants it already has... Which was Linus's entire point.
Is it a crime that I play both?
yes
yes
nope, that just shows you understood that they are different products made for similar but different gaming experiences
maitre between Yeah, I mainly play PC but it doesn't mean I hate console.
Peter Mcnally Nah. I'm good. c:
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Him : "life is not a spread sheet"
Me : "life not spread, is a sheet"
You can name a sheet anything you want. Then, you can name the workbook as life. So, the first line is false.
Lol
I love how the PC gamer is represented as a grown man and the console gamer is a 10 year old kid
The mobile gamer is 5 or 35
But with the console gamer he might ve palying with his brothers next to each other while the pc gamer is sitting at his desk with a pc that cost's as much as a car.
@@reaux1560 shut it vermin
@@reaux1560 I played split screen Black Ops 3 zombies on my PC with my friend using gamepads and my TV. I don't get where people get the idea that playing with friends over is only possible on console and playing on PC is strictly a lonely experience, but that's a misconception if I've ever seen one.
Tabushka I take it you used Steam Link App for TV?
“If you can’t put a RTX 2080 in it, I don’t want it”
-Grandma
Um what
@@ploperdung And then replace it with another one next month, and the month after, and every month after that until the warranty runs out lol
As long as it can run crysis
@@cvr2309
The real test of power
Respect ++++
My Gaming PC is hooked up to my 50 inch TV. I don't understand the crowding around a small PC screen argument.
Same, I'm typing this from my couch on my HTPC that's hooked up to my 60 inch TV. Woot woot!
better picture quality.
Although the gap that's commonly found between PC and entertainment/living rooms is becoming increasingly narrow, unfortunately it still exists for most people and households... PC's are still more commonly found at a desk, instead of a couch.
When norms cross, than it will be more of a valid argument, but currently, you're still the exception to the rule. Feel proud you rebel you!
50 inches will give you bad 1080p at max. a 27 inch 1440p however will give incredibly high detailed quality.
You get better fps and overall preformance with a smaller screen. Imagine CS:GO players playing competetive on a 60'inch curved Samsung tv :P
PC is better, saying this as a console player
You don't have to be a console player to admit it because everyone already knows PC shits on console.
I would rather play console then pc
@@therealsteel1634 you've probably never played pc before
@@pepperonipizza12yearsago42 I have a gtx 1660ti gaming laptop for programming and I prefer my ps4, not because it's keyboard and mouse or anything like that, cuz console is just easier and better to me, I do play on pc sometimes fr games like rainbow six siege, but u can notice frame drops sometimes while in console its fixed
@@pepperonipizza12yearsago42 then shut the fuck up why did u reply to be proud to play pc?
You can't really compare them that well since PC is designed to do way more stuff than consoles.
Agreed 100%. And that's the only result to the many PC vs Console wars that I have seen.
That’s the problem. Console are specifically made for and dedicated to games, while PC’s aren’t
In gaming pc is better than console in any ways
@@phantom8845 literally every single PlayStation exclusive aside from HZD and days gone isn't on PC. Games like God of war, the last of us and uncharted are why I prefer console to PC. And also because I don't want to spend $1500
@@EliFarb u prefer the 30 fps gameplay for literally 10 games ? And btw pc is expensive and it has many other uses than gaming so naturally expensive . But bruh u buy console for just a bunch of games ?
PC and Console? Incomparable.
PC has Bonzi Buddy.
PC: 1
Console: 0
ps4 has life of black tiger if i remember,truly a masterpiece
Hello there, expand dong.
Jordan Roy? You forgot the God of gaming chess such realistic graphics fast frame rate amazing strategizing choice customization amazing feel fantastic yet confusing simplicity low price upgradability portability great multiplayer it runs a imfiniteFPS it builds around the player so well small light weight every thing a gaming platform needs.
Chess:500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
PC: Dead
Console: Dead
Chess is a game for idiots, want a REAL game, with tactics, great multiplayer and stunning graphics? Operation, that is the game to go for.
Moral of the story? Sell your 1000 dollar PC and buy a PS1 so you can play Crash Bandicoot old school style.
kuyanatnatdkrx7 Or, you could load up an emulator, and play Crash Bandicoot on that PC?
Christoffer Nørskov PSCX
Or just buy a PS1 for like 50 bucks, I'm pretty sure they'd be dirt cheap by now...
kuyanatnatdkrx7 Or play on ePSXe in 1080p and use a USB controller :D
Or just get one at a garage sell for like 10$.
USB controllers cost more than 10. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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Great to see that despite the video perfectly explaining how dumb the argument is, everyone still rushed to the comment section to argue about it.
PC MASTER FUCKING RACE PEASANTS
Rude! just because your cannot build or buy a decent gaming computer.......
PS4 is $400. Can build a PC at around $450-$500 to crush it completely.
Did you even watch the video?
TheHateHarbinger Source: pcpartpicker.com/p/66LRHx
***** Well, it could use some improvements, but same idea. Heres the imporved version (1.5x performance):
pcpartpicker.com/p/6PQdt6
Nintendo, Consoles, PC, Handhelds.
My elders used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when the gamers kept balance between the Nintendo Systems, Desktop Computers, Media Consoles, and Mobile Handhelds.
But that all changed when the PC Master Race attacked.
Only the Affinity Gamer mastered all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless PC gamers. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.
Years have passed and the PC Master Race is nearing victory in the War. Five years ago, the people of my tribe journeyed to the Media Consoles to help fight against the PC Master Race, leaving me and my friend to look after our tribe.
Some people believe that the Affinity Gamer was never reborn into the Gaming World, and that the cycle is broken. But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, the Affinity Gamer will return to save the Gaming Industry.
Medachod I have seen this before, and it falls apart here:
"But that all changed when the PC Master Race attacked."
Consoles have been fighting between themselves since two competing consoles existed (many decades ago). Consoles also enjoyed decades of bashing PC gamers, because the consoles were once the better value. Nothing has changed, except for who currently holds the stick.
Christoffer Nørskov You are telling me that PC gamers did NOT go on about how much better they were?
Medachod Yes, in the beginning, it was consoles who were ridiculing PC users, because consoles had better performance/price back in the day. Also, consoles are still fighting withing themselves to this day. If you have seen the ridiculous shit that gets spewed whenever an Xbox and PS fanboy meet. Those conversations get so stupid, you feel like you loose 10 IQ just by reading them.
+Christoffer Nørskov Sorry to intrude on you guys conversation, but I just had to use this stick
Ps4 fan:PS4 HAS BETTER GRAPICHS THAN XB1 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH
Xb1 fan:NO PS4 IS LAME WITH ALL YOUR 420p GRAPHICS XB1 IS HAS BETTER
PC fan:well I can run 1440p on my PC @ 144fps with my rog swift and I can tell the differed between 60 and 144
Ps4 and xb1 fan: WELL GRAPHICS DONT MATTER ITS THE GAME WE CONSOLES DONT CARE ABOUT GRAPHICS.
***** Oh, I see. But, my story still makes sense to make the PC Master Race the enemy, since it was their rising up from the war and how often they go on about it now.
But, that is an interesting fact to know.
5 years later UA-cam home: let me recommend this
more relevant than ever because PCs keep getting better and PS5 didn't even want to announce its specs...
Are you here for the demon's souls remake ps5 exclusive? I feel you bruh. If only exclusives didn't exist.
69 likes lmao
@Garrett Gimber 9
Ok, ok, but PC has something consoles don't... P0rn games.
PC has Minecraft Java edition
PC wins
You can't argue this
Minecraft is everywhere tho lmao
@@kuuly3334 not java edition
Only mobile has pocket edition. Checkmate
@@Victor-Baxter mobile edition is bedrock edition, which is windows 10.
Who else came here for the arguments?
ME!!!
j0s3phPS3 guilty
*Scoff!!* Not me! (Sarcasm.)
j0s3phPS3 NO, I came here for an in depth comparison of platforms, WANNA ARGUE ABOUT IT?
j0s3phPS3 yep (im satan)
Theres another factor you didn't take into account
Once the PC is built, it can be upgraded
Which means if for example,
I wanted to build a PC to compete with the PS4, which would probably be something like an i7 2700k paired with a GTX 750ti, which would giive you pretty similar performance and visual quality while still giving you an upgrade path, and being reasonably cheap at the time, though still costing more than a PS4 at its release date
then if i wanted to compete with the PS5, i could take the same computer, install a 1080ti and some more RAM, and leave said PS5 in the dust (im aware the PS5 has more RAM, but that ram is shared between the CPU and GPU, thus, not all RAM is available for rendering pixels)
And at the time of the PS5 release, a used 1080ti was cheaper than buying a PS5 (not taking scalper prices into account)
My current PC, which ive had since 2016 runs rings around any console on the market and always has, started as a 4790k (golden chip) 32GB of RAM, and a GTX970, now its the same 4790k the same 32GB of RAM, and a 3060ti, total cost to me including upgrades has been around $1100 (used parts) total cost of 2 playstation generations would be $1300 (AU) so im financially better off with the PC than the console, while getting far better performance and visual quality
With overclocking, i could easily get another 2 console generations before ill need to upgrade the CPU to avoid a bottleneck, since i have a golden chip that can hold 5ghz on all cores
OR... YOU JUST BUY A CONSOLE FOR CHEAPER EVERY ~7 YEARS AND PLAY THE BEST RATED AND BEST LOOKING GAMES...
🤡🌍
You:
Life is not a spreadsheet.
The guy she tells you not to worry about:
Life not spread. Is a sheet
PC v. Console war in 3 seconds: It doesn't fucking matter.
+8bitslime It never mattered to start, because when you go back as early as 1977, the Atari VCS can do 80 x 192 with 4kb cartridges, Apple ][ can do 240i with a 32kb hard drive. Atari: US$199 Apple: US$1,298 with add ons etc.
+tonstad39 we're in 2015 sorry bud...
What I mean is, it doesn't fucking matter. Choose whever platform you want and stop judging people for choosing differently, holy shit.
8bitslime not judging people on what they play just their ignorance.....
Daniel Peru If they start defending their decisions with lies and bullshit, yes.
Why did the console gamer cross the road?
Because he wanted to render the other side
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"Console gamers don't have to put up with cheating"
Me and a friend went back to Call of duty Modern warfare on PS3 back when i think MW3 was about to come, and there wasn't one map without rampant cheating, that shit was crazy
Edit:So yea new games arent likely to have cheaters, but once support is shifted to new games it definitely ramps up
And after writing this I remembered that people frantically cheated in GTA V on PS3, it was bad playing online in open lobbies, more than once someone tried to shoot money at me to get me blocked lol
@@maltheman96 Some cheaters>More cheaters
Console>PC
Cronus zen: ahem ahem
Depends on the console. Anything from the seventh generation or earlier will have cheaters. PS4 games have the occasional cheater, but I hear it's rare. Xbox One doesn't have cheaters at all yet.
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"life not spread
is a sheet"
is what I read
Why join the PC race or Console race when you can join the awesome, superior, master GAMER RACE! Where you're free to play whatever you want!
+TheIntergalacticN All these PC and console peasants comparing exclusives. The gamer race can play EVERY GAME EVER!!! Bask in our glory!
+Joseph Boyd GROSS MINNONS
ur not in the pc master race unless ur gpu surpasses ps4s gpu,
+Franz Pogi That's less than 30% of the community, and even then I think I'm still being generous. lol
I spent $1,000 on a PC, but there hasn't been anything as good as Halo. Good thing I have my Xbox One.
The only redeeming quality about PC gaming is how dirt cheap these games become after a year.
+Otaku Warrior Less than 30%? Are you new to the internet? lol
The gaming PC is synonymous with Lord Gaben and his great creation!
Glorious PC Gaming Master Race!
>
filthy console gaming peasants
can't even play in 1080p and 60fps, haha
I love PC gaming and I frequent /r/pcmasterrace but please, please, do not bring the satire outside of reddit. It just makes us look as immature as the console gamers look to us.
I can't play many games on 1080p 60fps on my computer. Not everyone owns good computers
***** You mean 'on'.
***** What do you mean? And anyway if you don't like his creation it at least creates solid competition for the services you do like.
> can't even play in 1080p and 60fps, haha
Unless you're playing Smash Bros on the Wii U ;)
In all seriousness, I have a gaming PC for my PC gaming (and work) needs as well as a couple consoles for the things that only work on consoles. Most notably a Wii U and a 3DS which both offer experiences that I just can't get on my PC.
Much in the same way I would never play WoW on the Wii U even if I could.
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3:28 "Can we still be cousins at least?" Alababaman intensifies!
I feel like a pc has another advantage cause it’s also a computer...
That’s some 10,000 IQ right there
Exactly. Pc is not only superior in gaming, but anything. You cant do business on a ps4 or a switch, you cant develope your own games on xbox or ps4, you cant pull up the terminal and configure the way the interface looks like on a wii u or xbox or any ps console. But you CAN do all of these things on pc. It has more functionality than just gaming, like consoles have.
@Blue Skin Alien still no one cares
@@vodkawhisperer3923 "you can't develop your own games in a switch"
*laughs un Mario maker 2*
@@gamermapper funny joke
this is how i see it
Pc:
pros
cheaper games
cons
more expensive
consoles:
pros
cheaper to buy
cons
more expensive games.
pc's are stronger and are way cheaper
Another con for consoles:
Can''t mod your games
*cough* fallout 4 *cough* skyrim remastered *cough* jokes aside yeah i guess you are right
Even then your mods are chosen for you. You can not mod on console the company chooses mods from PC
did you delete my comment?
PCs are more economical. Console is just for gaming, PC is multi purpose. The keyboard-mouse combo with an option to use any other controllers is just cherry on top.
Can you make an update video on this when the ps5 and Xbox X come out?
Whatever you do... don't scroll down. You have been warned.
UA-cam comments with more replies float to the top, so I'm replying to your comment.
Let's float away!
get high
lol.
It's too late, I am already scared.
my lifetime goal is to use a toaster as a PC case and get it to run crysis at 60 fps
razer toaster confirmed
Should ask linus
Masculist Frequency You can't make a console that is equal to pc in general.
SSJake well unless you made a console with 128 gb ram, $5,000 graphics cards, and basically everything that is the most expensive on pc that comes out at around $100,000 or more i wouldn't sell that
Masculist Frequency Pc isn't a single system
Its like saying that you want to build a motorcycle that's better then car.
Here’s hoping you guys redo this video sometime next year when everybody can get their hands on the new consoles and the new graphics card from both companies
How can I record my board games using my capture card?? I’ve tried the elgato game capture but my board game has no HDMI...
I wonder what Bullet Barry would say...
Agent Blackwing lol same
or rags
or Top hats
linus would bash rags's ass (rags is gay) That wouldnt be so bad rite?
Agent Blackwing ayyyyy
PC>Consoles
*Grabs popcorn*
*waits for the fanboys to come in*
Awpocalypse Bold fail?
*
put that on the end and start of comment
The Dark Phoenix Gaming #phonemasterrace
yeah.i know. i just googled and found out.
Is it weird that the ad that played before the video was Linus advertising something?
Holy crap watching this 7 years later and seeing that oculus makes me feel old. that thing looks like a relic
WHAT if i told you, you could build a 380$ gaming pc which is as good as a console?
*Heavy Breathing*
Nils Lorand Does that include a keyboard, mouse and a copy of Windows? A $380 PC isn't worth anything without input and an operating system.
So the only way to get it for $380 is through trials or illegal downloads?
***** Windows 10 is only free if you're upgrading from Windows 7 or 8. Otherwise you'll have to buy a license.
And why not get it all for free by stealing the PC parts?If you can get them for free, why spend money, right?
A Windows Key on the Internet costs $20
Nils Lorand Because it's ultimately pointless.
It's like building a £2000 car instead of buying a prebuilt £2000 car with no benefits.
If you're going PC it's for performance and costs, otherwise it's pointless.
Real kids play snake on their Nokia
facts
seriously... most people played GTA SA and Vice City in their childhood while I played snake
i had need for speed on my nokia XD
I played the s... out of snake on my Nokia and I do have a disc of GTA SA
Captain Simon I played snake and after that I started playing gta sa
I got an ad with Linus in before this video XD
The only real advantage of console gaming is you must pay a subscription fees to play online with your friends on top of the internet bills.
Disadvantage*
The problem with consoles, Linus, isn't necessarily about their lack of performance, lack luster input selection, or their absurdly expensive cost. But rather how much they're holding back the gaming industry.
Imagine for a moment, that consoles disappeared, and everybody started using PCs.
Well, people would *still* want that simplicity (that really doesn't exist..). So what would happen then? Would we re-make consoles? Probably. They're a great scam, and millions of people fall for it.
But let's also imagine we don't do that. So everybody relies on PCs exclusively.
We still want that simplicity, we still want those same games, we still want everything that would draw a person to consoles. So what would happen?
ALL of those 'features' that consoles get, would be implemented in operating systems or software on PC, and the problem would disappear.
If you wanted to dance, you'd dance. If you wanted to do some hardcore gaming, you'd do that. But you wouldn't have to buy an underpowered piece of garbage to do it. You'd be *able* to buy an underpowered piece of garbage if you wanted, but it wouldn't be required.
The main problem with consoles isn't the plethora of negatives around them, it's the fact that they are holding back the potential of the gaming industry.
People buy consoles because they are just plug and play unlike pc's and i don't understand why people always bring the argument that consoles keep holding back the gaming industry. In the past that was somewhat right, but now there is just as many pc gamers to console gamers. If i was you, i would blame devs for not taking advantage of pc's hardware instead. But in the other hand that would mean, that devs would have to optimize each game they make to work on every pc (part)hardware that has been release.
Some people might say to make the games work on the very best pc hardware out there, but that would eliminate common pc gamers. For example if they made a game that require 3 980's to play that certain game, that would mean that only a small group of people would be able to play that game. Like really who has 3 980's, maybe some people but not everyone. That right there wouldn't make a lot of money. And the things that devs want is money, not all of them, but it is require if they wish to continue making games.
The whole getting rid of consoles thing, might not happen any time soon, until pc making(building) becomes so easy that even a 3 year old can build one. Because people just want to play on a system that you just plug and play. And you might say to just buy a already build gaming pc. That would cost you more than a console and you would have to deal with more things, like updates, drivers, tweaking, bugs, shitty ports(because the devs didn't want to optimize the game for pc). So just take this as a grain of salt, i'm not trying to change the way you think. I'm just giving you more options.
Shadowmark r You don't understand how PC gaming works. There is no 'requires 3 980's. It's 'this works best with 3 980s, but if you have worse, just turn down the settings'.
Consoles are HARDLY plug and play. You have to plug them in, log in to your account, set up your membership account, install your games, and THEN you *might* be able to play your game. Unless it had an update. The console gaming experience is absolutely no more 'plug and play' than the PC gaming experience. Period.
A three year old doesn't need to be able to build a PC. And an eight year old already can. Building a PC isn't difficult.
And as I said, if consoles stopped existing, the reasons people play on consoles would just be made on PC. The only thing consoles are doing is holding back the gaming industry. That's fact.
We need shitty consoles so casuals will buy games and AAA devs will invest more into the engine. There needs to be a new console about every 5 years to keep progress moving forward, as long as they do that PC will be fine.
Don't have to be happy about it but the consoles can keep their crappy communities, and if you try and defend the console community then you have not played cod on a Saturday night.
Shadowmark r consoles are not plug and play. 1.buy halo mcc.
2. Put in disk.
3. Wait 2 fucking days for the 30gb update to download to fix multiplayer.
On pc. 1. Put in usb hdd with hundreds of games. Click alien isolation.exe. play game with ease. And it runs better too.
same argument ive been saying less cod more star citizen please
During the last segment of the video you contradicted yourself, you said "it's all about the games!", yet PC has most games and exclusives. You also said " If someone else wants to play singing and dancing games with their friends, do you really expect them to crowd around a PC to do It? " Yet you yourself brought up the fact that you can plug a PC into a T.V and play with a controller, therefore not having to "Crowd around a computer".
PC is the superior platform, end of discussion.
are there actual dancing games on pc luls? like wut
hackinblack Who actually plays dancing games daily besides at a party?
Do they even make games like just dance for PC? I doubt it
hackinblack Stepmania. Its a DDR emulator
Glorious truth.
1. Quit playing outdoor sports
2. Complain about lack of realism
3. Start building your own PC
Omg that's me
Every console has exclusives. Xbox: are you sure about that
A mouse is more accurate and pc has full support for controllers, but you'll never fail if you have both
I use PC, but you missed the point. PCs are great, but consoles have their own upsides that a PC usually cannot bring. Take for example the fact that you cant have multiple people crowd around a PC and play games together.
well im that small hand full that plays on a 65'' tv
Samsung 4k curve at that
first off why are you playing on a tv with a pc? your limiting yourself. second what games are you playing with people on pc?
K&M are better. It's a myth. Sure it's an advantage BUT everyone else has that advantage, so it's not an advantage anymore. Not to mention that 90% of the PC community are fucking fatass neckbeards and if you don't have a $250 mouse you'll be destroyed. I'd rather have the controller since #1 everyone I'm playing with has that controller and don't have an advatage over me, so it's pure skill, #2 I don't want the end of my spine being blunt (unhealthy, it's from sitting on hard surfaces to long.) You get my point, the K&M is the easiest argument to take down.
I can console on my PC but I can't PC on my console. PC for life.
+Brandon Hall True
yea but could you invite 3 friends over to play on your pc? Crowd in your dank ass room sitting on your floor... you would have to hide your bottles of piss before you give it a try though.
+devin nore I've done it before its a game called mari0 and its 4 player local coop and it works well
#pcmasterrace
+Brandon Hall Yea you can console on your pc.....if you're willing to deal with all of the bugs and crashes and all the technical bs that i wouldnt want to deal with when im sitting in my home theater setup.
There is a reason why linus said PC for the desk and console for the living room. Can't agree more. PC is superior, but console is simpler.
Thx
About the game you like and how you want play lastly biggest thing you need ask what do most of your friend play on the on then you could pick device you need.
99% of everybody that watches this channel is PC
98.3% actually...
null 98.25986% actually
Wait, PC watches videos?
100%
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@@awufos9959 idk why df that was funny. Even though it's an outdated joke
Hi Linus can you make a video of piont the best strangest and fast pc vs ps and xbox that they have the zen 2 chip in
Wow pulse way is that an advertisement with you in it because I watched the whole ad
I gotta be honest LinusTechTips . I was expecting a "PC Master Race" argument out of you. But you surprised me on this one. I've always been a multi platformer myself. I play on consoles, PC's, phones...whatever. If it plays games, I play them on it. Every platform has great exclusives, excellent feature sets and unique experiences to offer. So why limit yourself to one? Embrace them all and enjoy each one for what they have to offer. No point in pledging allegiance to a platform or brand who sees you as nothing more than a number that contributes the the expansion of their bankroll eh? ;) Either way, games are about having fun. So lets all stop the bickering over whos platform is better and just PLAY SOME DAMN GAMES!!! LOL
Robert Santellan See, the problem with your argument is that it's outdated. Five or ten years ago, you could have said that "Every platform has it's own library of games, and offer experiences the others can't", but that's no longer the case.
Now, there are only 3 platforms:
-PC/console
-Mobile
-Arcade (it was here, it disappeared, and it might be back)
PC and console have merged into one platform, since the consoles are simply turning into low power PCs. They offer NO new experiences compared to a PC, and the only reason they have exclusives is because MS and Sony pay for them (I mean, how else would you sell consoles?).
The unique experiences that consoles offered are no longer unique:
-Gaming on the TV: PC has that
-Controllers: PC has that (and many more)
-Quick setup: Install libraries like Steam, Origin or GoG, and you are good to go.
-No fumbling with settings: GeForce Experience and AMD Gaming Evolved do that for you.
-No drivers, updates: It's 2015, those are all automatic.
-Quick to get in a game, just pop in a disk and play: On PC, you open your library of choice and click play.
It's like the consoles have become the cheap sub-platform of PC, that's still slightly more simple than PC, but does nothing a PC won't.
Mobile is probably the most growing platform, and offers new ways to play (See Gear VR, Google Cardboard), both in terms of how you play, and what types of games you play. It's a legitimate platform, whether hardcore gamers like it or not, and it's here to stay (looking at charts).
Arcade might be making a comeback. This is due to VR. VR still has one major problem:
How do you control your character in VR, and get accurate haptic feedback for different stimulations (touch, temperature, moisture, vibration and so on)?
For most people, the problem is going to be space, as it requires a lot of space to house even a small treadmill, let alone any additional hardware.
Space was never a problem for the arcade, hence why it was so popular before home computers/consoles got powerful.
Seeing projects like The Void pop up, the classic arcade could be making a massive reboot, one that i think most people likely welcome.
Last thing i want to mention, is that not ALL the bickering you see, is simple fanboyism about what platform is better, but can sometimes be outcries of people who are genuinely worried about the industry. A lot of anti-competetive practices, and general industry declines have been seen in the past couple years, and people are now beginning to notice, and react upon this.
Christoffer Nørskov There are still unique experiences to be had on each platform. Some of those stem from features, some from exclusive games, some from platform specific peripherals. Each platform has its own strengths and weaknesses. Also, keep in mind I do have a very extensive tech background, so I'd like to address a few points you mentioned.
1. Quick Setup using Steam, Origin and GOG: For someone like you and I, thats great and definitelty applies. But for the casual gamer? Not so much. People of that variety just wanna go to the store or a one centralized eShop to download games. So for them, having all these different places to get games can be overwhelming and confusing. Also, what about collectors? Download stores don't really cater to them.
2. No fumbling with settings: Really? You don't have to fumble with settings? What about people who want to play retro PC games or games that require particular hardware?
3. Drivers being automatic: Seriously? When was the last time you built a PC?
All in all, I enjoy all platforms for what they have to offer. And I'm not just talking console to PC. I'm taking phones, tablets, PC's, Xbox, PS4, Wii U, etc., etc.
Robert Santellan
1. Yes, i know consoles are still more simple than PCs, but the argument that you don't have a centralized place for your games was mostly used back before game launchers/libraries even existed. Back when you still had to pop in a disk for every game, and there was nowhere to keep track of all your games, other than the programs list for your computer. Now, even though we have more than one library and source of games, it's a lot easer than it once was, and is fairly simple (even for the average consumer) to get into and get started.
2. This one was primarily aimed at those who play casual games. The type who will pop a disk in a console and play BF or CoD. For these guys, they assume you have to fumble with settings, which is true for some use cases, but not theirs.
As for retro PC games, this is an entire category that's not even available for console gamers (Try playing any non-PS4 Playstation game in your PS4, it can't). Usually, you google it on a per-game basis wheny ou have issues. Someone has made a mod/fix, or know the easy way to make it work.
3. Last time i searched for a driver on the internet was quite a few years ago. Whether it's Windows Update taking care of them, the drivers themselves prompting an update, or someone like Steam telling you that your GPU driver is outdated, i haven't actually gone to a website to download a driver in years.
I also enjoy all platforms, i just no longer consider consoles their own platform. They offer nothing but a few exclusives (just like how Linux, Windows and OSX has exclusives), they use PC hardware and no longer push the boundaries of gaming like they did a decade ago.
Christoffer Nørskov Most retro console gamers and collectors have the actual consoles and would use reverse compatibility options on modern consoles even if they did exist. So retro console gaming is very possible. It just requires the right hardware. Downloading drivers isn't an issue if you buy prebuilt, but those who do build still may have to download or manually update driver from time to time. This depends on hardware manufacturer of course.
Robert Santellan
"Downloading drivers isn't an issue if you buy prebuilt"
Really? What year do you live in? On all of my computers (with only the laptops and the server being prebuilt, ofc), and i still never have to bother with drivers. Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 all just work. And it's not like i don't have any obscure hardware either.
Exclusives are the cancer of gaming. They exist for the sake of the big companies like microsoft and sony. ONLY THEM WINS FROM EXCLUSIVES. I wish all amazing games were avaible for every gamer. And every developer could share the game to everyone.
Agreed. Modern console exclusives are entirely artificial.
Correct, exclusives are an excuse for console developers to sell you 400 dollar DRM boxes. And the console peasants are even proud of it lol. Great marketing move from the big players I guess, when the average Chad feels great about his overly expensive DRM box.
Indeed.
I agree for the most part, the small upside to the exclusives is that it teaches real life situations like having to make a choice. You can't always have everything.
I don't know. Just imagine starcraft on ps4. Some exclusives are best kept being exclusive imo.
does need it "dedicated server device" for {online multiplayer video gaming setup}!?
Yeah you don't want to know the version of graphic card if you have RTX 2080
I can't really say how hard I facepalm when somebody says Nintendo is for kids because the lack of gore, and then they play League of Legends.
P.S.: I love both.
Viral wtf???! League is gory???? And I face palm at u....
Owen Yang They criticise something because it has no gore, then they play something with no gore.
404 reading skills not found.
+utubeaccount are u stupid?
***** Good graphics don't equal good game, and the games you mention and say that have bad graphics (even if some of those don't) are at least 5 years old.
I dare you run at 60fps 1080p Starcraft 2 on max detail on any current gen console. Tip: You can't.
Also, some games like CS:GO, maintain not so cookie-cutting graphics because professional players play at 144fps, and it's not easy to reach that much frame rate. Heck, almost every modern game on console struggles to keep constant 30fps.
The thing about PC gaming is that those same games you play on console, you have them on PC with double frame rate and better detail levels, plus the vastly superior KB+M for FPS games.
***** no, thats so wrong.Consoles have significantly worse hardware than what you can get in a pc for the same price.They do have lag you just don't notice it because you've never played on anything better.
Console VS PC. (4yalluw8in4)
PC:
- 60 FPS up to 144.
- Can upgrade.
- You can work on it.
- Better graphics (MOSTLY dont hate on me)
- mods
- FREE multiplayer
- Better graphics card.
Console:
- wait.....
>60 FPS up to 144.
Change that to 240, and even more if you overclock a CRT monitor.
nice ok.
those are some things for the pc, yes. However some people do not care about whatever is "objectively better", they want to be able to jump into a game without worrying about "am i playing it at the highest settings I can?"
there is a reason why consoles still exist, they are a lot more user friendly and that counts for like 10 check marks.
SpeedstackC79 " they want to be able to jump into a game without worrying about "am i playing it at the highest settings I can?""
If you're worrying about that shit then a console isn't for you and you're considered an enthusiast. Stuff like that justifies $330 graphic cards and such. But really, nobody cares about them having to turn down AA from 16x to 8x for the sake of performance, performance over all.
"there is a reason why consoles still exist, they are a lot more user friendly and that counts for like 10 check marks."
That only counts for one.
Adam Cabbage "If you're worrying about that shit",
good thing they aren't, which is why I said " *without* worrying about"
"That only counts for one."
on a spreadsheet yea, like linus said, life isn't a spreadsheet, an advantage a console may have may be the leading factor to someone getting a console over a pc despite the pc having more "checkmarks". That is why I said "that counts for like 10 check marks.""
lol
We needed this
this video is still pretty relevant 6 years later
Mobile user: I am a gamer
PC and Console fanatics: So you have chosen death..
Uh last I checked some mobils gamers took on pc players in pubg for giggles and wiped them.... so yea not so superior. However most phones these days are lil pc engines people have hooked up since some phones can outperform 75 percent of builds
@@basil3970 ye boi
THE GHOST fuck off
@@theghost7277 75, X to doubt
@@theghost7277 ??did mobile wiped out the pc or did pc wiped out the mobile,your statement is worded weirdly
PCs are expensive
*Laughs in Ryzen 3 2200G/2400G*
That's what I'm getting
I bought a prebuild PC with a Ryzen 5 2400G and honestly it just sucks (or I had a faulty product). It had about the same perfomance as my office laptop from 2009 and the CPU gets REALLY hot and warmed my entire case. I put in a GTX 1060 6GB and the CPU temps stayed nice and low with the stock cooler and the perfomance was good. It's fine if you plan on upgrading shortly after but if you want to stay on the 2400G, just get a console instead, you get better perfomance. @@MrMinevision1
@@MechanicalDoll sounds like intel propaganda
@@MechanicalDoll u used verge guide
@@aliidress5619 lolll
The video:
There is no "better option"
The comment section:
Ima prettend i didin't hear that.
You don't need two pcs to play pc in your living room on your t.v.
You just need a very long HDMI cord and to switch which display/source your using.
Console = for casuals, PC = for the gamer
I play xbox to chill the fuck out, otherwise i play on my pc
+Soleimsen | Drifting, FSX and MORE! Exactly
***** damn, 60 hours work a week?
I play console to escape reality
+Mysterious Seal imo not serious
Consoles are PCs.
No.
today they are very close but they still wont run full windows or Linux like my computer can. And the warranty doesn't expire the second I try and take my computer apart
There computers, not "PCs"
godzilla915 exactly
William Donnellan ps2 and ps3(used to) run linux
PC can run console games on an emulator
checkmate
it’s just depends. one of the main things that draws me into games is being able to play with friends and none of my friends have pcs. i have a 2000$ dollar setup and almost never use it over my launch edition ps4 that often crashes just trying to load my friends list. it’s still runs games and keeps me entertained. i’m abt to sell my setup to get a decent gaming laptop for the few times i get into pc exclusives and emulation but other than that console just works for me.
Brace yourselves! The debate is coming!
yep
Sure thing
*mindless shouting FTFY
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I'm bisexual when it comes to this
so that who has all consoles and pc would be a pansexual? hehehehehe
Console or PC? How about both.
@@therooster3538 i should make my own console and have exclusive games on them for money making.
@@murtazarizvi368 ah yes and then emulators happened
@@McBoccher i have yet to try the recent consoles emulators but couldnt of other games.
Lol, he said 4k monitors on 2014
This year I bought my first 4k monitor, 6 years after...
I wish pc had more local multiplayer games. Like how hard is it to just give us split screen when the console version has it?
I have a console and pc,and i connect both of them to tv so when im downloading something on pc i can play with my console
So your console is for when your PC is not avalible? PC first then Console. Nice. I like this guy.
thanks
I'm the opposite. PS4 then pc
GL 9106 not really. I have both and prefer PS4.
GL 9106 it's not about that, I prefer PS4 due to the fact that I like final fantasy, uncharted, and I'm really looking forward to horizon zero dawn and red dead 2. And most of my friends play PS4.
Heyy.... Doesn't that look like the guy from Linus Tech Tips?
Utkarsh Manwani ik right?? I thought I was the only one
No
Nah, dunno where you’re getting that from, that’s clearly the CEO of Apple, Bill Bezos.
NineBreaker mk.2 r/wooooshwith4o’s
@tornikei tornikei shut the fuck up with your little 10 year old sorrow tv watching r/wooooshing self
this comment section is so fucking toxic it hurts
just buy a console if you dont want to spend more money or just buy a pc if you dont mind spending a bit more
Well said
This video deserves a 2021 update!
I play on both PC and Consoles, and I am well entertained by each.
Why can't everyone else be like me?
Peter Quill
I can't afford it either, I need to build a new PC, and get a next gen console, but I have played on both. Its not all that expensive.
Peter Quill That argument is pretty stupid. It's not a case of affording it, it's a case of justifying spending money on it. Two completely different things. As a guy with a combined PC gaming and home theater setup worth a little over $12k, i still won't justify buying a console, because it's a box that does some of what my PC does, just worse, but then plays a single game or two that the PC doesn't have. I would rather upgrade my current setup with more speakers, more gpus, better cpu, more harddrives, a second theater than buy a console, because it makes more sense, it adds something, while the console doesn't really add anything to my setup
There us nothing a console can offer me that I can't do better on my PC. Literally the only thing consoles have that PC doesn't are a few exclusives and none of them are worth $400+
robpsychobob
With that attitude, you're limiting your entertainment options. Many console games are worth playing.
trier4952 How is it limiting? PC has more than 4000 games available. A console would only increase that list by what, like 5? Consoles don't have enough good exclusives to justify a 350-400$ console and 60$ per game
Let's just stop fighting for a minute and all hate MOBILE GAMERS!
Domen Kastelic Lol yes
when the razer phone came out i just felt some cringe and heard some kids buying this for clash of clans becoise they NEED 8gb of ram for the game in my head. am i the only one
Domen Kastelic we would if they were real gamers
Sense when does it matter what platform you play your games on as long as you’re plane good games that you as the individual enjoys and is having fun with. The majority of us have play mobile games on our smart phones here and there that doesn’t mean you’re install not a gamer just because you play on a mobile platform or a consul or PC platform doesn’t make the gamer the game that you’re enjoying makes the gamer. Platform has nothing to do with how you play your game or what are you play your game on it’s about having fun and not arguing over what platform is better
Kenneth Jones learn English you mobile peasant, mobile games are not even real games
Huh, a second pc for the living room. I'll have to do this now.
... People are only pretending to have fun on consoles and play on them out of spite and pure envy toward the GLORIOUS PC MASTER RACE.
Why did the console peasants looked at the sky?
*To get a stable 30 FPS*
Xd
I have a 600$ PC from 2013. 3 FPS in Fortnite, 40 FPS in Minecraft, lowest settings. And I have a 300$ PS4 from 2013. 60 FPS in Fortnite, 60 FPS in Minecraft, highest settings. I bought both devices new and as a pre-build, so it should be a fair comparison. Plus PS4 has some great exclusive games like God of War, Uncharted, Horizon Zero Dawn, Detroit: Become Human, Spiderman, GT Sport, RDR 2 and many more. Nearly all of them run at 60 FPS and look great because they are pretty good optimized. Yes, PC has also many exclusives, but they aren't that high-quality.
@@max-dy3vs i have 600 dollar pc 144 fps in fortnite
@@alexg3745 In lowest settings? :) If it's in high or epic settings, you lie because only a GPU and CPU which would be able to run that would be around 600$ (GTX 1070 and i7 7800K for example). If you don't trust me, here's a benchmark: www.fpsbenchmark.com/fortnite/gtx-1070
@@max-dy3vs everthing high shadow and post processing low
Rx 580
Ryzen 2600
8 gb ram
why cant we all be like me Console and pc guy :)
Because i wouldn't want to waste 400$ on a box that adds nothing to my existing setup?
Christoffer Nørskov You could always buy a console and put it in the living room so that when you're, say, eating lunch, you could still game. But let's end this here before it gets out-of-hand.
gp75motorsports As a student, my living room is the same room as my office, so my desktop is connected to my TV as well as my desk, and i just grab a controller and play on my TV if i want to. That's why i say it literally adds nothing
Christoffer Nørskov
Then that's just you. But like I said, let's end this conversation before it gets out of control.
I play both and I enjoy both. Already got all of the next gen consoles, now I just need to get parts for a new PC
At the end of the day what are console games created on🤔 rest my case
Macs
Macs are for some reason good for programming
@@mallusaih 🤨
Dev kits
A console that is modified for development purposes
@@someone_7206 ._.
PC:
- you can play Skyrim, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed and similar games using mouse and keyboard
- requires a bit of knowledge about computers, memory, graphic cards, etc.
- might give you the curiosity to learn more about how it works. Example: as a child I used to play Amiga games, later I decided to study computer science and finally I became a computer programmer
Console:
- you don't need to know anything about computers
- you can just sit on your sofa and start playing
- can take advantage of you huge TV
- separates the tool you use for working and studying (PC) from the tool for entertainment (console)
Personally I prefer the PC
Epic.
The last console point is huge. I use pc for very little gaming and mainly use it for Audio Production, the problem is is when I had steam installed and played games mostly on pc I found myself slacking on work bc the games were always on the desktop, so was Reaper, but the bois might be on whatever new CoD