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Servers vs Desktop PCs as Fast As Possible
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2014
- Sever vs desktop computer hardware. What's the difference? Why is workstation, server, and enterprise grade PC stuff so expensive?
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Working in IT and dev stuff, and being a total PC build-it kinda guy, servers are super, super fun. The hardware is redundant and brutal. We're talking things like 16 physical 12 core Xeons with 2TB of RAM. Heck, there are even system with redundant RAM! That literally means that a whole array of RAM can go down and be hot-swapped while the system is live if some RAM goes bad. It's amazing stuff.
Goddamn
With every passing day of it getting crazer and crazer you should widen Dem eyes
Still waiting on hot swap motherboards or CPUs
I knew there was crazy servers but not 16 CPU 12 cores each with 24 threads per cpu and 2tb of ram crazy. How much does something like that even cost 100k?? What's the point
All stuff your average home user doesn't use. Just run over the homelab section. No one cares about redundancy. You're better off going with a ryzen build.
Can you do a "Build a server on a budget" episode?
On a budget just put together some desktop parts. You don't need anything special for budget use.
Buy a Intel NUC or a Raspi, you re welcome :)
real server computers cost lot of because if you want real server computer case or its not even case "server rack/shelf and server PC are made for many ssd/hdd and raid. But There is little server pc cases for amateur server host pc But its just for ram and hdd raid and server cpu. GPU will not be that number one things and that server pc even little server pc will cost lot of because if we want build real server pc not just normal desktop with normal windows and cpu. Server pc is just for: (lot of ram memory its the first thing 2. many hard disk drives (RAID) and a lot of space. HDD should also be SAS (really expensive) or SDD. Also, Server processor is expensive if we want real good intel xeon processor or the other. GPU must have a lot of RAM memory (Titan X). But the great thing if Linus could build a server computer and at the same time he would use hdd raid system. Also, a lot of ram memory of more than 64GB, this custom computer project should be different. Linus Sebastian could build a server computer (amateur level) And this computer does not should invest your graphics card and the basic parts. Ram, hdd, fast data, SAS and high-speed processor, or 2x the CPU. Computer price would not be a small (maybe 1500- $ 10,000 a big difference)
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@@1TheValde holy shit dude. I literally couldn't understand a single fucking word you just said... What in the actual fuck
@@1TheValde my brain hurts
server = semi truck (can't race, can pull 50+ tons)
desktop computers / gaming rigs = dodge charger hellcat (can race, can't pull 50+ tons)
+Sherwin724 DUUUDE it's all about that Hellcat brah, without it you might as well be driving a minivan, am I right br0 xD
Some people's Gaming rigs are more like F1 cars
+Sherwin724 until you get a fully loaded enthusiast build that is true but not many ppl pay over $1800 dollars on hardware that adds functionary to the system then max it out so have to buy more
$1800 for a high end build but around $800 per computer over 200~300 servers is more like $160,00 to $320,00 so little less power per unit is totally Ok but if one breaks a little hic up happens the Master server takes care of the change if Master goes down you should have secondary Master just in case of Master going down tells you which one did in some systems but continues as long as one Master and one slave are around ... each slave machine is basically a 1990 era machine in a server farm but excessive on what it is optimized for and either PCI, PCI express, Fibre, Fiber, Ethernet, or propriety networking
+Sherwin724 - The only Hellcat I know of is a tank destroyer, but I assume you aren't talking about that
Either way, lol
>american car
>racing
+Sherwin724
lol a dodge charger cant race shit
SERVERS DESKTOPS vs EXPLAINED
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Instructions unclear my dick got stuck in a ceiling fan
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when I read the thumbnail i read Server Desktop vs. Explained
exactly
Wolfbyte Gaming yea...
*Old Granny Watching*
Lol
Idk why that made me laugh 😂
man where would I be without this guy
I'm feeling that all the way. Partially due to Linus' videos, among other notable tech UA-camrs, I might not have built my first computer which was the talking point for a job interview - which I actually was hired for.
Lol I only learned what Ghz and ram meant by watching his videos
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Oh God i freakin died!!! xDDD
I lost it at the "this plug looks optional"
+bestiebest IKR
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Edzal's comments are great. And the editing is getting smoother. Nice to see this for techquickie.
Actually most Fast As Possible videos are edited by Taran these days :)
Techquickie That explains the twitter post about Taran copying the shutterstock picture. Dedicated person for Techquickie is nice. So i guess Edzal does the main channel and the other guy (sorry cant remember) does colour touchup for all of them?
BrownieX001 From which university did linux graduate from?
MS DHONI for which university did GNU graduate from? Linux is a kernel(.)
+MS DHONI The university of Linus Torvalds
So in short
Gaming Rig = Sprint (Made to work fast as possible when needed)
Server = Marathon (Run slower but make the hard yards for longer)
Super computers = Sonic (Cost like F and Runs forever on Chili-dogs)
also, Server = Failure is not an option.
Nice comparison, hehe
The ladies say I'm a server in the bedroom. ;)
That's actually a very good analogy.
LMAO "If you are buying 5000 of them...." best explaination of a server I have seen in a long time.........
I mean to say that it was a nice way of explaning///
Nevermind....It happens :)
You guys are doing great! Thanks for all these valuable information with a short and emphasized way.
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Did you try this?
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so in simplicity, I don't need a server
kevin kapela you don't need server hardware to have a server, most home media and file servers are run on standard consumer hardware with out issue.
You only need server hardware when your system is going to handle a large workload
Server hardware is for security and extra features you don't really need for a simple data server where power outage rarely happens and you don't need 10-20 Gb transfer speeds. A server basically replaces the work of your workstation, so instead of making something and rendering it on the workstation, you render it on the server and you can make more stuff on your workstation
+Simon Ayres sooooooo server hardware is the next gen gaming hardware? (because programming efficiently doesn't seem to apply in a dev's vocabulary any more)
mastamage1231 Absolutely not, server hardware sacrifices speed for stability in most cases.
Simon Ayres sounds good to me, as speed should be overkill on software that is programmed by a decent programmer.
we live in a time where almost no programmer gives a shit about their software stability, so the logical place to search for it is extremely stable hardware
is it just me or did linus used to have a slightly higher voice
niether nor
32bit VS 64bit
***** Which is better 64 bit or 32bit
TheHengKong 64 just because it can use more RAM
TheHengKong 64bit
Ty
***** True, but it's like resolution. It means tons of things, you see it be applied to operating systems, images, processors and tons of other stuff. More elaboration in a video would be ideal.
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Exactly what I was looking for, thanks Linus. Been on YT since '06.
Am i the only one that thinks that he 1. Breathed helium or 2. Speeded up the video
I think it's a gay thing.
It could just be his willingness to explain what he now understands. And he can't explain it fast enough for the shortness of a video, all while trying to make do with paying bills.
@@zdcyclops1lickley190 I don't think he's gay though
@@zdcyclops1lickley190 He's married to a w o m a n, remember?
He's a singin' man :v
But can it run crisys at 8k 120fps ... I think not
+Jack Muir Actually, some servers can't. They don't have a graphics card. (not even an integrated one)
+AtlasDev Funny to think of how much power these servers have, yet they likely don't even have an OS with a GUI
+Willy Goat but you are right, no gui.
Probably not, but it could run dedicated servers for 1000+ simultaneous players from all over the world without breaking a sweat.
+WesOfX Some do have a GUI. Windows Server for example.
Jesus, I'd start watching TV again if the comercials would all be staring Linus. I usually get annoyed by people who are trying to sell something, but you actually made me check out that club lel
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How about Fan Placement as Fast As Possible next?
Good idea!
On top of a procesor.
One teeny thing I'd like to pick at (although the image kind of covered it).
You're talking about typically "mainframe" class servers, SOHO servers are a different beast again :)
Thank you, it is really easy to understand and informative. Keep up the good work ^^
These videos are great. Very educational. Thank you!
add to the cost the insane amount of heat being generated by all these servers
Great video!
Suggestion: A video on the significance of clock speeds and ram in performance of video cards? For instance, the base clock on the GTX750ti is just as high (or higher) than other much higher end cards with the same amount of ram, but doesn't perform nearly as well. What is making the REAL difference with the higher end cards, and does clock speed really matter?
that would be intresting for me too
I think the main difference is the amount of cores the graphics chip has.
It comes down to architecture, amount of cores and frequency. Then there's the Vram bus-width and Vram frequency which also should be taken into consideration
Just found a fast as possible episode from last year that answered all of my questions.
Love this channel.
This was amazing ! I love the episode !
Can you do an episode on network traffic?
How server do so much work like some MMO server
You surprise me each and every time with your sponsored messages.
Quite entertaining.
Would subscribe again 10/10
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Bios as Fast as Possible?
Then a BIOS v. UEFI follow up video?
Great video! Thanks Linus and team!
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"How will I get my Viagra now?" LMAO!
FatedCb yes absolutely hilarious
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If the wipes are bloody when you're done with them, you should have that checked out :p
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+Techquickie omg that's what I was thinking. Pure gold.
+ray mond Personally, I save even more money by not shaving. Oh, wait, I'm a Linux guru, the beard is mandatory.
+Techquickie LMAO!!! That was possibly the most perfect set up and delivery I've ever seen.
Omg! That last part of the ad killed me. I have been getting all sorts of complements.
THX for the smartdeploy offer, I already registered and I hope it will come in handy. I am just about to test it and already it looks like something I was looking for ;)
How about an As fast as possible on the different kinds of panels, LCD LED TN, etc. what's the differences, what's better for what, how do they each work etc.
Making servers out of desktop-grade hardware is basically my life.
***** Two servers connected together with a null modem cable, wake-on-lan, and Seroquel.
Good job you're doing to spread the knowledge of the computer universe! Glad I did the essential mods to my trusty old (2007) Acer tower. To all oldie owners--- upgrade your RAM- it's easy---- if u have a half decent GPU, plssss use Display Port, u can buy an active cable adaptor (Sapphire is good). I compared the results to HDMI on my monitor.... no contest, it was noticeably better.
Great video! Keep them coming!
Why is Linus’s voice so high lol
You forgot to mention something, Xeon CPUs are optimized to work with Multi-CPUs environments that is the 2nd main difference between and E3, E5, or E7.
though that is not all Xeon CPUs only some and even then the ones which do most times also have a version that do not support it for cheaper.
I finally got set a video by linus for my school work. My life is complete
Our school also showed his video for computer science
And I more than happy to see him .....
Great video :D I was always curious about server systems.
Laser vs Optic sensor for computer mice.
GO! :)
I seriously wish Linus would stop a little with trying to make it seem like sever CPU's are so much more different. Look at the E3 Xeon line up, they are ALL i7's pretty much. Most of them costing at around i5 price or in between i5 and i7 prices. What ARE differences between an i7 and E3 Xeon? Depending on the model of E3 Xeon, the clock speeds, ALL E3's support ECC RAM, ALL have no built in GPU's (Besides the Xeons that end with the number 5 example: E3 1245), and finally you can't overclock them which is a bummer, but paying for pretty much an i7 at roughly i5 price when you're on a budget is definitely worth not being able to overclock. A big time pro is that Xeons take up less power and do support being on for long periods of time. Another BIG TIME pro for E3 Xeon's is that you CAN use them on LGA 1150 Motherboards, meaning you don't need to buy a stupidly expensive server grade motherboard.
David Wiita lol?
basically, server processors are cherry picked consumer processors with ECC support... i think that sums it up quite accurately :O
***** Too bad those are stupidly expensive and actually not very good for gaming.
DarkPaladinX77 They are not meant for gaming... if you have them on a normal rig they would do stuff like rendering better.
andre brito E5's aren't meant for gaming. E3's do gaming as well as an i5 can as they are pretty much i7's.
I love your work. Man Canada must be proud of you. Your IQ is definitely is up there. UA-cam must be proud of you!
Great sponsor placement! I laughed my ass off this time
Is this video filmed below 25FPS? Because it looks like it...
Same question after watching the video =\
***** Other videos are 30FPS but this clearly below 25 sometimes... Sorry but I can tell the difference even between 30 and 25 and this sometimes runs like 15FPS. If you don't believe me search for his FPS comparison techquicky...
It's UA-cam's fault.
what resolution u running? cos doesnt youtube turn it down at 144p?
idk
Alan Chen I watched the video in 1080p...
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You know, I must say, I actually liked the sponsor ad at the end!
These vids are becoming even better with every one! Is it me or is the vid editing also improving??
? The i7 equivalent Xeons are cheaper than the i7 4770k on NewEgg.
They're cheaper than the 3770k, too.
To be fair, though, it's because they don't have integrated graphics, and you can't really overclock them (not that you'd ever want to with a Xeon).
It's the reason I bought an E3 1230-v2 for my workstation / gaming rig.
I know but that's not whet I was getting at. Linus said they're more expensive but all the Xeons I've seen were cheaper than their i5/i7 counterparts
Oh yeah, I was thinking about that myself, you're correct - Xeons are usually cheaper.
No e7 are usually over 1000 dollars
Yeah, but I meant cheaper than their i5 / i7 equivalents. There are no i series equivalents for the E7 series.
TIP: the video ends at 4:10
The video ends at 5:28. Can you read?
The "main" video end at 4:10, after you have ads and if u like them, watch them, but most people don't watch them, so f off
But his adds are funny
RichyK1 I enjoy the ads actually. I like hearing about new products. Linus talks about products in the first place anyway. He broadens my interest into other products basically.
That's where the video starts
I have been given an HP Proliant ML115 G1 never used or had a server before but it works.
Love learning from this channel
Servers desktops vs explained
Given that I still suspect he's gay--regardless of what he says otherwise--I found the pleasant smelling butt comment to be especially funny.
Tell that to his kid.
Might be a shocker for you folks, but many gay people have been married to women and many gay people have kids.
......
^^^^^
But but gay parents raise gay kids. That's why we don't want them as parents right? So Hell's comment makes sense.
And 'many' is a bit of a stretch IMO at least. Maybe 'some', and people can be 'bi' as well.
Though i did suspect he's gay, mostly cause he seemed attractive to me, so I'd like to imagine it was so.
And DJINFERNO, though yes, makes sense, you don't have to condemn him to 'Hell' for a comment made on youtube. People do it all the time 'do you have a girlfriend yet?' (to males, ppl automatically imply that you're 'straight') --> quite a majority in my experiences.
I don't turn around and tell them to hope that God forgives them xD.
It's all fun and games, no harm done. let's all be happy we were born in times with computers and can talk to each other on the interwebz, civil talk, civil.
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Good and great information to share!. Well I do have a request on explanation on how database works, security on database, and how the server get down when hackers attack the server? Thanks Techquickie. Really helpful
Ram.. ECC vs None-ECC
why is his voice sooooooo high pich
"These blades live in the future and come from outer space." Hell of a selling point.
I've signed up for Dollar Shave Club! It's fantastic :)
I wish my AD Block worked on UA-cam videos...
It's a good thing it doesn't.
you have a crappy ad block in that case cuz mine does
advertisements are the only way that they get the financial support you need. you blocking their ads denies them their cash. dont do that.
What's wrong with the ads anyway?
Je Moeder He means the ads UA-camrs themselves make inside their videos.
Essentially just justified the Mac Pro workstation. ;)
Always interesting people comparing it against a gaming desktop system.
Great video! Could you do one about the differences between ps4 specs and pc specs? It's hard to find a straight answer because it seems alot of the ps4 components are custom made
You have the best explanation of things ever! XD
You should be a college professor. You teach better than 90% of them.
Because most of the text is written, when college professors have to teach stuff they know for longer time without much preparation
So taking this video tell me.
What OS would run best? How would you install it? How many drives would you run? What drive config would you run? what is the exact power consumption? How do you shield them? How many can you put in a 40m3 room without overheating the room? How do you config the routers and switches? Port setup?
This video is great synopsis of a server, but detailed real world applicable knowledge, it is not.
Darren T Buddy his entire channel is devoted to technology. He's an extremely smart guy and can land himself a nice gig in a computer lab class or become an A+ certificate prep teacher. Given it pays more than what he's earning now.
Only a rich and bored guy would make a server with ssd's
ok so what about all the other parts you need...? pretty sure you mean a NAS..
JeremyB796 Assuming you are getting a large enough number of hard drives.
***** how does he have 4 sli 780ti?! The 780 tis are dual gpus and sli goes up to 4 cores... not 8 0.o
The point is to put ssd is for the os. Hard drive are perfect for big capacity storage. And there no point of saying that boring people make server cuz i do and your more boring.
lol. rich i subjective. if u own a company that provide server service. performance and reliability is the main factors. my last work as it administrator. mostly critical server using SSD (AD, DNS, File Server) and even the SAN and Backup Server using SSD too. only CCTV server using HDD.
Hey Linus I have an idea mostly for printers but has many other uses in the tech world but What is the difference between Networking Capabilities and True Wireless capabilities? Such as having to have an app hosting a server application to process and convert a page to be printed then send it to the printer or just send a file directly such as selecting the wireless option on your phone or whatever to connect to a printer, I never really understood it and still don't but keep up the great work Linus!
very nice. thanks for lot of info
Server Desktop vs Explained... wut
Easy answer to video:
Buy AMD. Most servers use Opteron processors for the reason they get the most bang for the buck. If you can't afford the 550 dollar 16 core with a possible 4 socket board, get a AM3+ board. Servers are about cores, not fake hyper threading cores and GHz. You'll get better server performance from a FX-8320 or any AMD octo-core CPU than your i5 or i7. Plus, AMD CPU's actually handle pure binary code better than Intel's, which may not seem impressive, but when a server is running, that's all it gets from the clients, as where on programs it has to convert the code over to binary first. Cores are more important as the way that they allow more code to be processed. A CPU or program will not use hyperthreading unless the program tells it to use the psuedo cores.
And before you bring up how superior how great your Intel 8 core is, go look at prices. 150 dollars for a 8320 which works in 30 dollar motherboards, when its over 1100 dollars for your i7 5960x, which REQUIRES a 300 dollar board MINIMUM. Sure, a 30 dollar board isnt great, but it's better than a overpriced fuckin board. Just get a 70 dollar board instead.
I would like to remind you of an important fact: energy consumption.
The key difference between intel and AMD is quality
Many modern programs are starting to use multithread so hyperthreading is much more useful especially if you are using multiple programs at once on one system, IE a barebones server or highest end gaming system running a server for game X with game X running, that or running chrome on it's own because it's a filthy bandwidth whore in both ram and netowork IO
intel also uses smartcache which alows it to run thorugh incoming data better with less delay
intel also runs substantially cooler, I run an AMD FX 9370 and it overheats frequently
in short AMD is good for budget systems but intel is far superior
Fuck of
SniX
Xeons are server CPUs and they run substantially cooler than AMDs
the point is that you very much get what you pay for and the FX serise is certainly not the best server CPU but more or less a better choice for mid-low end home systems
Don't listen to this tard. He's comparing consumer-grade CPUs to server-grade. Apples and oranges. There are many intricate differences between the two, including, but not limited to, cache sizes, core count, ECC support (critical), and instruction sets.
I work in IT. You can get more core CPUs from Intel's Xeon line than the AMD Opteron line. AMD Opteron is a budget CPU if you don't need the best of the best. This can be fine if you just need things to work, but if you have some heavy-hitting apps, like a server full of mission-critical VMs that run at high loads, you'll want to go the Xeon path.
i always watch the ads because of the strange ways that Linus somehow finds to get from the topic into the ads
You're an amazing teacher
his voice is horribly screechy
+TBW Guppy His voice is awesome and seems to be accomplishing alot more than your keyboard.
+Jorell Dye hear hear
I recommend that viewers watch this at .25 speed! It is still screechy, but he sounds drunk. At least you can keep up much easier!
FIRST!!!!!!!!!!
(I had to once)
*****
I wanted to see what drives all dem kids to scream "FIRST!!" on a video.
quite a relesing feeling :P
No you didn't
you are the first ever guy on youtube that i saw that says that if you disliked it then do a dislike. lol!
Love ya linus.....good info and you crack me up
Your voice is like a girl
Perfect knowledge thanks
I was thinking about building a threadripper windows server 2019 (2016) server for windows 10 multipoint operations any suggestions, i want to have serval slim clients connected to a network to use windows 10 on from the server.
Also server variant chips are available in many core variants. Intel is shipping a 15 core Xeon E7 when broadwell is released
Thanks. And no annoying distracting music! Cool. Thirty thumbs up.
it kind of calmed down as the video went on but in those first few seconds of the video you sounded like you just huffed some helium.
great video though man, loving the info.
"I've been getting all kinds of compliments on the smell of my butt since I started using them" you can see him holding back a laugh at this part
That blade example explained everything :)
Can you do a server box build guide? I have been wanting a personal server that I could run games off of and store things on. something power efficient and small, yet meets the specs required for the job, thanks for these Fast as Possibles!
OMG, it just came to me!!!
That voice pitch..!
Brick Heck from the Middle has grown!!
: )
nice channel, by the way! ; )
Could you make an episode about the importance of upgrading your motherboards to the latest chipset? Are there really any "feel-able" benefits from updating your motherboard from, let's say, Z87 to Z97? Something like that.
Dunno if was already featured, I can't find it anywhere...
Please explain how co-processor works (This tricky PCIe x16 "external" with 61 cores f.e.) and if they're ANY kind of usable in normal desktops (since some of them are actually pretty cheap...)...?
One must simply love the butt jokes when the razor pub is going on :P
I really didnt get it, so in gaming performance, i7 would win xeon, but xeon can multitask alot and do bigger workloads? Or is the gaming performance nearly the same and xeon wins with workloads?
Nice foundation makeup Linus. The sunburned neck gives it away, especially after that closeup.
Drunk Linus @0:28 and 0.5x Speed, pretty damn hilarious !