"My Lectric XPeak High Step Wobble GONE"
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2024
- In this video, I uncover the truth about the wobble on my Lectric XPeak High Step electric bike. After some investigation, I found out that I do indeed have the infamous wobble that many riders have experienced. Join me as I share my experience and how I plan to address this issue.
I Found the solutions to the XPeak bike problem.
Here’s the link to the part guys
www.amazon.com/dp/B01EIR0WBM/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_M72VMH0HWDZN2WWNSQ8G?linkCode=ml2&tag=garywebster-20
Gary you are the man !!! Lectric should realize you saved their company. Hope they reward you properly.!!! Thanks so much .
This is what we love about you Gary, the investigation, discovery of a viable solution and the implementation ❤. Keep up the great work man! You rock Gary 🎉
Hi Gary, thanks for all your efforts. We have two Lectric XPeak step through bikes. Was able to tune out most of the wobble on my bike by tuning the suspension. I was carrying 10 lbs in rear. I'm 185 lbs but my wife at 125 lbs has a real problem with wobble having 8 lbs on the rear rack. I solved some of her wobble which occur at 8mph by stiffening up the suspension but we don't feel the bike is safe. Called Cane Creak and they recommended the Hellbender 70 Visco top only. Ordered one for each bike and we will see how it works. Will keep you posted. Just subscribed, please keep up the good work. Also called Lectric and customer service says they know about the problem but have no idea when it will be addressed. I have always found them to be very responsive but I not willing to wait. Hope this works.
Ordered an XPeak step-through, but then became aware of the wobble issue. It would be wonderful if the headset dampener also works on the Step Thru. I'll be watching your channel closely to find out. Congrats and thanks to the genius inventor of the Hellbender.
I actually had somebody comment that said they have two Step-Tru XPeaks and they did my fix and they said it work great no wobble at all now
Well done Gary👍. I can’t wait to see your next review/repair! 🚴
Awesome Gary great that you have that issue behind such a simple fix 😊
Awesome video, Gary! Looking forward to getting this bike and installing the upgraded parts
Gary very impressive video you need to post this on the group I have two step thoughs my wife's seems fine mine has the wobble but it's doable but after watching your video I will be installing this headset on both bikes when I get a chance I will have a shop do the work thanks for the video
You just became my hero! I have a RadMini with dual Tesla batteries, and when I carry a load on the back I get a mild oscillation like this. I had planned an external damper, but with the brackets on the bike frame and fork it was not going to be pretty! Thank you so much, and hopefully they have my size.
That's awesome Gary! Great job!
Thank you Gary. I’m going to ask Lectric to pay for this part. I don’t feel safe riding my step through with the death wobble.
So did they send you one?
@@kristirudolph7504 They didn't. Instead they sent me saddlebags.
Great Job Gary!
I don’t even have the Xpeak but I’ve been interested in what the company would do about it. Looks like you beat them to it. Subbed! Really nice work dude.
Well, you gotta understand from a company aspect 1st you have to admit there’s a problem.then your liable 😀
Thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing I like the xpeak. Will be my second Ebike at some point. But first need to put miles on the 3.0 this spring and learn. Stay safe 👍✌️
That is a fantastic video! I am going to order those from cane creek. The Hellbender 70 looks like the right fix for any wobble problem that may occur.
To all of you viewers and subscribers that watch this channel, pay attention to how talented Gary is on problem solving.
Nice collection and good vid Gary, keep up the great work.
Wow. Great job, that is amazing
My Experience: No wobble on the Step-Thru with Hellbender Dampener. Read on for details.
After watching this video I decided to take a chance and install the Hellbender Dampener on my brand new Xpeak Step Thru. I did this immediately upon receiving the bike. The dampener was installed by my local bike shop.
Just now I did a test drive with the dampener installed. I mounted a rear basket (5 lbs) and carried 36 lbs of rocks. This weight was in addition to the pre-installed rack on the back of the bike. Important notes: I did not use any front basket because I don't have one on hand. Maybe the results would have been different with weight in the front. Also, I would not recommend carrying that amount of weight on any bike. It gets pretty unstable and tippy, especially with the weight up high in the basket.
I rode throttle only, PAS 5, and got up to 20mph. I experienced virtually no wobble. There were some moments when I thought I detected a slight wobble, but they seemed to be short lived and tolerable.
Spex: Cane Creek Hellbender 70 Visco, Top Assembly, ZS44/28.6/H13.5, Mid Tune, Model BAA2187K. Thanks to whoever invented this gizmo !
That is an incredible product! Great job!!
Nice Gary, good find with that headset! I’ve never seen that before, interesting. It seems to work really good, who would have known some metal plates in the headset could fix that crazy wobble. Nice work Gary
New subscriber here ,waiting for my Xpeak high step. Very pleased I’ve found you!
You’re going to love it. Any questions just ask. And thanks for subscribing.
Outstanding video!!
You should be a consultant for them great job 👍🏻
I’m trying real hard, Quinton 😁
he is
Great video. Would have liked to see more of a step by step install.
As many people that want to see it, I have twice as many that don’t want to see it. I used to do very detailed installations and would get criticized all the time. But I’m more than happy to help people if they ask.
Great job!
GREAT VIDEO!
You have a good point about the slime and flat out causing a little wobble in the bike.
Yea i have noticed this too, with flat out. It can really depend on the tires. If they have a lightweight side wall, its easier for them to wobble it seems. But if you have good tires, you shouldn’t feel the flat out. For example I had a lot of problems with flat out in Vee speedsters, but Arisun Big Snoothy 26 work fine. Make sure its the sportsman formula, its more runny, The multi purpose stuff is more clumpy.
Did you change your name? If you did I really like it
@seniorebikenation I used to be Gary’s DIY adventures but I changed it to Garys E bike adventures along time ago.
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures your answer says @EBikeBuilder
Just wondered
@@seniorebikeadventures no, that’s another creator 😀
That's cool Gary.
Very interesting. I did a conversion on a threaded head bearing set as couldn't find a quill stem to get rid of a damaged giraffe folding stem & couldn't find anything to work. Got 26" air shock forks with a star nut for a stem riser & BMX type stem & bars. The Mission Conversion headset found looks like it should work.
Great video Gary! Got my Xpeak yesterday, set it up and away I went. My first bike in many years and I love it! I haven't experienced "the death wobble" but know what to do if it happens. Thanks!
Excellent video. Thank you. I wonder if you had a chance to test this with the xpeak step thru
The step through was unrideable out of the box with the wobble (no basket)
I installed the cane creek headset and it mostly fixed the issue. The rear large basket is still too top heavy, but I loaded 40 lbs of groceries in the panniers with no issue
Lectric customer service was great. They refunded my order for the rack as well as the cost of the headset replacement (just had to send the receipt)
Hopefully Lectric will just start putting this on all their bikes. Nothing worse than being excited about a new bike only to be disappointed on your first ride.
I would imagine they’re going to have to do something. The problem does exist. That’s why I tried to find a solution that was an off the shelf solution I have emailed my contact there and they do watch my videos so they are aware of what’s going on. Other than the wobble, the thing is an awesome bike.
I just bought this bike an noticed the problem within 1 mile of riding. Please do a step thru! I need this fix its my first ever ebike.
Action Ride Shop in Mesa AZ installed Cane Creek Visco headset on our Lectric XPeak Step through to resolve wobble issues. Tested XPeak with front rack and rear basket mounted to confirm wobble eliminated. Went with Cane Creek Visco on bottom and HellBender 70 on top.
Awesome I’m so happy to hear I couldn’t convince Lectric to send me a used
step-through so I could try it. I’d like it shot it fixing the pedal problem too. Again awesome guy. I’m going to shut it out to as many people as I can. Thank you for letting me know.
Where is the link where you bought the headset?
I just received my step through XP. Awesome job. I have a big bike store and I’m going to call them and have they can install this on my Lectric bike. You made my day. I feel so much better about buying this bike. I will find out first if the step through has this problem. I’m so glad you didn’t give up on the bike. Thank you so much. I have a problem with this bike because my legs are so short and I’m concerned about my balance at a stop. I know I can’t lengthen my legs. Any suggestions. I have an XP 3.0 and it’s I’m doing okay on that but there is a huge difference in size between the two bikes. I may have to give my XPeak to my daughter. Thank you for all your help. Lectric should be paying you for the work you put in this bike. I may have to sell the XPeak. Hope not
I got rid of my chain ring & chain & bought a new pair of diamond cut crank arms hanging down with the cadence sensor disconnected. The saddle is as low as it goes & I ride it as a slow speed motorcycle with no problem. It's a fat tire 20" folding bike & at my age, I got a block & a half with pedaling only so what's the point of ghost pedaling & your feet will hit the ground on 1 side at least I would think.
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Ive had mine for a month or so and haven't had any wobble. I pull a weehoo bike trailer a lot. I also removed the rear rack and fenders
good luck with the step thru. you feel that thing bend and flex behind your seat in addition to the vibration impacting the steering.
my step thru is all packaged up to be returned already so I'm fully done.
might be something to consider for my step over though.
I would rather have a step through, but I ordered this in a step over because they all flex I was hoping with the mountain bike rating that it wouldn’t, but I knew in my heart that it would I have five step throughs they all have the same problem with the flex not wobbling though one did have a wobble, but I put a steering damper for a motorcycle on it I think this is a much better fix than having that ugly thing on the bike
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures flex, sure. I'd expect some too. the xpeak seems to resonate though... with the frame vibration just building on top of itself making tiny vibrations become much larger and extend for a longer time. mimicking speed wobble.
a headset damper might kill the resonance. might not. Will be interesting to see for those willing to test.
i don't see enough qualities in the step thru xpeak to want to hold on to it that hard vs return it. and it still will have front wheel clearance issues that would require playing with the fender to deal with on top of whatever remaining flex issues even if the damper gets wobble under control.
I'd rather cut my losses and get a better designed bike that can do what it's advertised to do and what i need it to do.
@@cellsafemode good points, while i applaud 👏 the fix Gary has found- i still think…. You shouldn’t have to buy a 100usd headset to fix a design flaw of the bike. Lectric should be thanking Gary for doing their testing for them! I would be interested to see if it fixes the wobble on the step through. I don’t think lectric is going to put a 100usd headset on the bike anytime soon though, maybe they should R&D their own anti wobble headset. Or just design a non wobbling bike in the first placewould be best. But I’m glad that headset solved the problem and Gary is able to ride his bike.
Sir Gary, thank you for figuring out the remedy for wobble. I’m experiencing this on my Xpedition Cargo bike and awaiting Lectric’s reply for remedy. Would you by chance have a part number for hell bender for the Xpedition, or is the size of the Headset on Xpeak the same as Xpedition ?
I believe if you only put the top bearing in, which is the one you need it is the same one, but I’m not 100% positive. I just know that it’s extremely similar. I had both those bikes apart before the bottom bearing definitely is not as the XPeak as tapered fork it’s available on Amazon. You can always return it if it’s not the right one.
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures any slim chance you can find the time to provide me with the top size and bottom size measurements on the Xpedition? So, that I can work with Cane Creek and bike mechanic on getting the right parts. I don’t have the capabilities, calipers or know how in measuring the post inner dimensions. I’d greatly appreciate the short cut if you are able ✌️
@@tonyvpounds32 Tony I would have to disassemble the fork area to do that. But I can tell you I’m pretty much sure it’s the same top as the XPeak but Lectric uses ball bearings just free floating, but I did replace mine with this set on Amazon amzn.to/3Q70zb3 maybe that will help you. Fork is 1”1/8 straight tube. Hope this helps
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I appreciate you taking the time for reply and attachment links. Thank you!
Only have my first Ebike 3.0. But really like the the xpeck too. I think getting it and leaving it with no rack or fenders looks stuff and free for trail riding in woods. What do you think Gary? I’m not to handle in fix complex stuff.
The bearing is super easy to put in, but which are you getting the step over or the step through
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures step over i like more and think it’s will handle better in wooded trails and rough terrain
@@robertcarazo8839 you will be absolutely fine then
If you end up buying it, this doesn’t affect you at all, Would you please use my link? It helps out my channel. lectricebikes.sjv.io/oq6rvn thanks in advance
Gary, I have the Xpremium, does it take the same size headset part as your bike?
No, the XPeak has a tapered fork the one on the XPremium is straight i’m sure if you called Cane Creek could probably get you the right one.
The scale maybe off but we put 32 pounds on the back and no wobble Its fixed
Question if we do this upgrade do we have to ride around with the extra weight too? And do I need new tubes and tires also?
No, you do not have to ride around with the extra weight. I was just trying to prove the point that it could take the weight that was what was initiating the problem. in the rims on this bike are not tubeless so tubes are required
Have you talked yet with Lectric about your test results?
I have been interested in buying the XPeak since it's release, but I put that on hold after seeing all the wobble issue riders were experiencing.
I'm interested to see if Lectric fixes this. I don't feel that it should be the customers responsibility to putchase something to fix the problem.
Will this fix also work with other sets of handlebars if I wanted to swap them out on a XPeak?
Thank you for being tenacious! I sure hope this was the the ultimate cure.
I am actually in contact with Lectric. and you can put any handlebars you want on it with the set up
So many good choices out there, great to have options.
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Thanks for your response, Gary. Is Lectric committed to adding the required part needed on the XPeak from this point forward to be able to fix/stop the wobble?
@@_80210 not sure their claiming the complaints are minimal for the amount of bikes sent out.
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Thanks, Gary. I've seen enough of the wobble issue from others here on UA-cam for me to pause and give hesitation.
I'm going to look more into the Wired Freedom and the soon to be released ECell Five Star. Both have bigger batteries, bigger motors, duel suspension and from what I can tell, no documented wobble issues.
Thanks again. I really enjoy your informative videos!
Would there be in difference in wobble between the high step and a step through versions? I'm planning on getting one of these bikes and mounting a surf rack attachment to the side so would probably be carrying up to a 10LB board on one side. My local shop only has the step-through currently but wondering if I should just grab the high step online if it'll end up being better suited for what I'm trying to do with it.
@@AlexJTastic unfortunately the step-through are worse the step over would be a better choice
@@AlexJTastic if you would please, can you use my code when you buy it it doesn’t cost you anything, but it gets me credit with the company lectricebikes.sjv.io/oq6rvn
May be this is why it's so hard to get boxes to mail them back, trying to come up with this fix. If they mail us the parts I'd love to keep mine.
the box i was sent, doesn't feel rated to contain an ebike. it's not double thick cardboard like most ebike boxes. no handles either. fedex is not going to baby this thing packaged in this box like it is. i fully expect this to fall over on its side and be man handled... and definitely taking damage on the way back. but that's on lectric. my stuff is photographed and packaged as well as it could be given what they provided.
My headset doesn't wobble but it's clearly loose. I just got an Amyet G60 that had 3 rings from the headset in the box. They shouldn't have been off the bike so they're not in the directions. I had to troubleshoot where they go and got rid of 80% of the movement but I honestly think there's a piece missing. Do you have any idea if this would be combitable with my bike? I haven't worked on a bike in 20 years so this is going right over my head. The company provided 1 photo by email and mine looks the same but I must have done something wrong
My emails in my description if you want to send me some information I’ll look into it
Gary at 6:52 the scale says 6.5kg , close to 15 pounds. i was like dang , which battery did he get that’s only 6 pounds!! 😂 those things get heavy! i used to haul around multiple triangles as well. They usually have 80-100 cells in them and they each weight at least like 60g probably.
Yeah you’re probably right the website had said 8 pounds that’s why I got the thing from in the beginning so when it came in at 6.5 I didn’t question it
Hi Gary...Is this no wobble with the forks unlocked or locked? I want to move forward and purchase this headset if it works with the forks unlocked..thanks, Bill
I had the forks unlocked there $400 forks I’m not gonna lock them out 😁 thanks for watching
Me either..I love this bike and wanna keep the baskets on my highstep as I carry my yeti cooler bag with water and lunch to work that weighs around 15 or more lb..I just put up with the wobble...thanks, for everything
What exact size is needed for this bike? 4 options on site
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That is a bad wobble...
I’m currently experiencing this wobble on my Xpedition Cargo step through and awaiting Lectric’s response on how to remedy it.
I have an XPedition also and put probably 30 pounds on the back of that and I’ve never had a problem, but I also don’t have the factory forks on it. I have a suspension fork on it.
Was just wondering if the cargo bike wobbled. Thanks for the answer.
Dumb question, but have you checked the head nut on that make sure it’s tight because those things are notorious for being loose and if it was loose, you could’ve lost bearings because the bearings just float in there
Gary, do you have a link for the tool you used to install this?
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@@GarysE-BikeAdventuresThanks, my XPeak High Step is coming this Thursday. Definitely going to look into this upgrade.
Gary, where is the link???
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I'm confused. Is this link for the visco headset? Nowhere does it say visco on the headset or in the description.
@@webesailingaway sorry about the confusion I didn’t post a link I figured people would ask and I would give it to them
www.amazon.com/dp/B01EIR0WBM/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_M72VMH0HWDZN2WWNSQ8G?linkCode=ml2&tag=garywebster-20
What about taking a 50lbs passenger on back? Is this bike safe?
Like I said, I’ve never experienced the wobble on that bike. The guy may have a loose headset those bikes were notorious for having them too loose. I’ve had mine apart so many times I know it’s fine. 😀 it’s honestly one of my favorite bikes. It’s definitely my favorite 20 inch bike.
My two locks, tools, first aid kit, trunk bag and grocery panniers weigh more than 20lbs (the chain lock itself weighs 12lbs). None of my bikes or e-bikes wobble with that kit put on them. That’s before anything gets loaded in the grocery panniers.
It’s unacceptable for an adventure bike like the XPeak, which is marketed as being sturdy and able to carry quite a bit of cargo at up to 28mph, to not be able to carry that amount.
Does this work with a basket on the front?
I guess it depends on the weight you’re carrying, people have told me they’re running both baskets and have no problem. The only time I had a problem was when I had some good weight on the bike, but I have not experienced it since putting this on, but I have not run the front basket since I do run the rear. Hope this helps.
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I already bought this bike and wondering if you think I should return?
Hey Gary could you post the link? Sorry if I missed it.
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@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks Gary!
Just bought mines from the official site
7 bikes......addict.....one more coming....addict...😂😅
My 52v 20ah UPP weighs 13LB
They are heavy, those generic Chinese cells, i think the 52V 20ah upp batteries weigh more!! than my 72V 20AH with the big 21700 samsung 40t3 cells
plane and simple ...it should not wobble
so the only way to fix this wobble is by getting that part that cost ove 100 bucks??
If you have the step over, you may not have the problem at all and many people with the step through. Don’t experience the problem. Most of it is because of weight on the baskets. And quite honestly, you won’t even feel the wobble unless you ride with no hands on the handlebar.
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I do use the back racket, so thats important to me, this delayed me getting this ebike, sadly..
@@joellee6142 I do use the back rack but I was getting a wobble with 18 pounds on it before. now I put quite a bit on it and I get no wobble at all with the hellbender again not a problem if you have your hands on the handlebars with the step over.
I called lectric and they reimbursed me for the part and labor. Just had to send the receipt
So, when are you buying the new Lectric ONE. 😅😅😅
So to tell you the truth, I talk with creators all the time. I’m not in a position where they’re giving me bikes yet I can get a discount usually about 30%. so I was going to buy it but I didn’t know what it was when I saw it this morning I said a 20 inch bike from electric for over $2000 I’ll pass I don’t care if it’s got a belt drive or not. What happens if your ghost peddling with the belt drive you’re stuck in their world at that point Lectric is entry-level bikes I don’t think anybody that wants to spend $2200 or if you get the long long range batteries probably gonna be in the $2500 range maybe they put it out in a 24 inch bike that would’ve made it more interesting.
Shouldn't that be a Hellbender 70 Visco Model? Those are the ones they market for Steering stability.
That’s what it is
OK Thanks
Gary, how much should it cost for parts and labor approximately?
@@dancuarta the part is about a hundred dollars not really sure what they charge for labor, took me less than an hour to do
Lectric should suspend the sale of these bikes until they resolve this problem. These bikes are not safe in these conditions!
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who is the dumbass that thought putting drainage grates in the side of the roads with the slots facing in a way that skinny bike tires could fall into and cause an accident was a good idea? anyways i just purchase the headset for my step through, should get it in few days, hope it works because right now i'm afraid to ride it with this wobble.
Unfortunately, they would not send me a step through so that I could try it on. So I have no idea if it’ll cure it on that, I am being told by other people that it does work. I wish you luck, my friend. It’s pretty easy to put in.
ok i slow down the video and realized that the grates were crisscross so no tires could fit in. however i do remember when they were like that, very dangerous .
buy a part brand new bike.....f
i put the hellbender 70 headset on my xpeak stepthru . no difference, it still wobbles bad. do not buy this bike!
I was waiting to see if it will work on the stepthru. Thanks for posting. We are waiting for the box to return it.
It should have been a 7-minute video.
Charlie C, this is not that kind of channel. I glad Gary took the time to prove his point!
I just about ordered one.... Now I see it's a hugh mistake. I don't understand why you continue to try fix JUNK.
Honestly, it’s a really nice bike for the money, and it seems that the only ones criticizing the bike are the ones that never had a chance to try it