Getting a nerf? You've clearly not been playing long jobs don't get nerfed lol others get brought up. Don't spread miss information, most of this made no sense to upper end content. Only support casters are weaker than melee by contrast...blm is only weaker if there is heavy movement vs melee. This was uneducated and click baity.
PREACH ASHLYNN also it's the beginning of expansion reaper was out putting insane numbers beginning of expansion as well you can't base a job off of 2 extremes
I main bard and doing the dungeons with a good melee its a quick and clean sweep through the new dungeons, it feels kind of weird how fast they are at launch.
@@StingcatKnight yeah, I think its just their solid damage plus buffs. I like bard because it is busy, and I notice a lot of bards really derp their damage not being busy enough.
The second I saw High Fire only doing 100 Pot, I knew "Oh shit they really nerfed BLM" I for one don't mind MP not being tied to server ticks (Classes should not be reliant on abstract 'meta' concepts like server ticks, or framerate.) But yeah not all the changes were executed properly.
Yeah, I've been thinking that. I got up to Bard just because of i liked the way it looked, and it seemed fun, but then I realized how average their support and damage really was. Feeling like I wasted my time on it, but hey atleast I unlocked performance mode 🥲
Personally I don't think PCT needs a nerf, I think jobs like BLM and SAM need buffs. Picto still does have to cast which to me, makes it easier to screw up than melee and no rez means it needs to still do close to BLM DPS if they buff it. I personally think BLM should have the highest DPS ceiling since, especially after the changes, they're not easy to play well with how much movement they lost vs how much movement is needed in a lot of fights now. And SAM should be up there since all they have is damage so I don't think melees with buffs should have a higher DPS potential than them but I'm against nerfs in general unless a job is doing something so crazy it breaks encounters, yes, but whether nerfs or buffa to other jobs, I think they should be up there with melee, behind BLM but not by a lot. I'll also ask for buffs before nerfs though personally.
@@mismismism I think it’s a lil too strong overall, ex2 its top rdps above all jobs, which to balance things out I guess they’ll have to buff the other casters quite a bit and probably going to lead to buffs for every job across the board since they like melee having more raw dps which leads to a nerf to picto (indirectly)
As a DRK, I do hope it gets buffed a bit. It should be 2nd. It's easier to play than GNB but WARs are downright unkillable and can solo most content, so that survivability does need some trade off.
I can still out dps ppl as blm, we're still at the higher end if your skill is high, its just easier to mess up now. the new manafont gives us the 2 min burst cooldown we desperatly needed to compete
Summoner getting nothing new, hurt like hell. Such a fun dps it used to be with a brutaly hard opener got... a HEAL? Leveld it, hated it, swapped to picto becasue they are more fun to play and have burst
Shouldn't be any sort of reasonable balance that has ranged DPS staying on par with melee DPS. That's just bad job balance, because it'll mean with two equal choices in DPS, you're not going to take the melee DPS with highest risk. PCT needs to be down there with SMN.
@@BaithNa I think the slow animation is pictos core identity and part of what u need to figure out in order to optimise picto well! Viper honestly I barely played it, not that interested in it atm so can’t comment much on that.
With the job change patch notes. Pictomancer DPS will be more normalized due to the fact that people are effectively skill canceling their Subtractive Palette after casting Comet in Black. It's not gonna nerf it into the ground but definitely bring it closer to where BLM is in terms of DPS effectiveness.
Dude your commentary shows you know nothing about ff14 picto is not getting nerfed and sage is a battle healer so it should out dps all healers. Come on man try to learn the jobs
ye picto should still get nerfed tho cause its op whether it will happen or not is a separate case, I mentioned maybe its not so great idea to nerf any of the healers and just leave it be, if u had ears u'd hear brothermen
One Question, you are saying Picto should be doing Rdm Damge right, or maybe even less. Why would you play/take a Picto over a Rdm who can res while doing more dmg? Whats the difference between Picto and a Dragoon who got a buff for the group same as Picto, same for Ninja and Reaper. Why should they do more dmg than a Picto ? Crazy ppl keep thinking Mages or Mages who are not BLM should do less dmg than Melee's.
@@StingcatKnight this is something I have wondered about, and now I guess the results are in, even in casual content boss fights it feels like all you do is run around just to torture black mages, and I guess its working.
so why Nerf a class that people are enjoying instead of buffing the ones lacking. BLM has been top caster for 14 years. why can there not be another caster thats better?
well heres a problem, the way it is set up, pictomancer is out rdpsing some melees/on par with them which is never suppose to happen from design pov, fights will just be extremely easy with picto and without picto u are basically griefing the whole party blm does not always need to be the top top obviously but it should at least be on par with picto at this point
If all jobs can output 100%, damage should be going to be higher for the hardest ones to play and who doesn't have any buffs to the party. So pretty much, Pics ease of play as well as lot of buffs, pics damage should be mid range, maybe even before RDM but above SMN If you would be willing to dump all your party buffs, then you would still be under BLM as pic is so easy to play.
I don't think its buffed as much as boss fights are a whole lot of running around now, and that effects black mages. I haven't really tried it but my assumption is blm even in late casual EW would be a pain.
@@Gee-xb7rtno trust me it was not. A good BLM would learn the fight so much they knew when to use their procs, AM, Triple cast for long moving mechanics. Atm its pretty bad as not as much procs to use, and on such tight time limit it leaves very little time for OGCDs or other spells. Flarestar our new lvl 100 spell is soooo easy to lose. I doubt any job has a max level ability they lose due to a mechanic
@@ChandaniAranka So Picto should do less damage than a caster who can res? Also why shouldnt Picto do more Rdps than a Melee? You can almost have 100% uptime as Melee without any problem, as caster you have to Cast and Slidecast to safezones etc. it just makes no sense that ppl keep saying that Melee should do more dmg cause its "harder". We have 2 Support Caster and 2 "full" Dps Caster. I get that BLM should do higher Ndps but for rdps they should do the same in the end. No point in nerfing Picto to do as little dmg as Rdm.
Getting a nerf? You've clearly not been playing long jobs don't get nerfed lol others get brought up. Don't spread miss information, most of this made no sense to upper end content. Only support casters are weaker than melee by contrast...blm is only weaker if there is heavy movement vs melee. This was uneducated and click baity.
brothermen, if u think pictomancer is not overpowered rn, I have nothing to say to you...
PREACH ASHLYNN also it's the beginning of expansion reaper was out putting insane numbers beginning of expansion as well you can't base a job off of 2 extremes
@@mr_nubsie3340 👍👍time will tell
@@mr_nubsie3340 Yeah - and then they buffed every other melee dps so reaper wasn't an outlier anymore.
@@StingcatKnightdoesn’t mean PCT’s DPS is getting nerfed. They don’t do that, you should know this by now come on man.
Drk either should be given way more self sustain or a huge damage buff. It shouldnt be that low with the worst self sustain.
ye drk need something changed for sure
Yeah, dark mind or oblation should be changed into a sustain ability, just for their quality of life.
I main bard and doing the dungeons with a good melee its a quick and clean sweep through the new dungeons, it feels kind of weird how fast they are at launch.
That is surprising usually it is a struggle with bard since their ndps is quite low and party dps buffs arent as good in dungeon
@@StingcatKnight yeah, I think its just their solid damage plus buffs. I like bard because it is busy, and I notice a lot of bards really derp their damage not being busy enough.
@@Gee-xb7rt 💪💪the era of bard is here
@@StingcatKnight its always been here, how many old school players are bards? lots.
@@Gee-xb7rt honestly I’ve only known maybe 3-4 bard mains the whole past year of playing 😅
The second I saw High Fire only doing 100 Pot, I knew "Oh shit they really nerfed BLM"
I for one don't mind MP not being tied to server ticks (Classes should not be reliant on abstract 'meta' concepts like server ticks, or framerate.) But yeah not all the changes were executed properly.
damn i just noticed, what the hell happened to the aoe dmg 🥲🥲
@@StingcatKnight Its... bad. Ive been reading that Transpose Flare shenanigans is better then using HF/HB
@@-DeScruff maybe something changed in its fire mode to give it more dps without showing it in paper?
What's even the point of being a bard if you're weak yourself and not strengthening others much either?
the worse of all is when u get two bards in a dungeon 🥲🥲
Yeah, I've been thinking that. I got up to Bard just because of i liked the way it looked, and it seemed fun, but then I realized how average their support and damage really was. Feeling like I wasted my time on it, but hey atleast I unlocked performance mode 🥲
Personally I don't think PCT needs a nerf, I think jobs like BLM and SAM need buffs. Picto still does have to cast which to me, makes it easier to screw up than melee and no rez means it needs to still do close to BLM DPS if they buff it. I personally think BLM should have the highest DPS ceiling since, especially after the changes, they're not easy to play well with how much movement they lost vs how much movement is needed in a lot of fights now. And SAM should be up there since all they have is damage so I don't think melees with buffs should have a higher DPS potential than them but I'm against nerfs in general unless a job is doing something so crazy it breaks encounters, yes, but whether nerfs or buffa to other jobs, I think they should be up there with melee, behind BLM but not by a lot.
I'll also ask for buffs before nerfs though personally.
@@mismismism I think it’s a lil too strong overall, ex2 its top rdps above all jobs, which to balance things out I guess they’ll have to buff the other casters quite a bit and probably going to lead to buffs for every job across the board since they like melee having more raw dps which leads to a nerf to picto (indirectly)
I hope they give the other tanks some more dps, the Gunbreakers are getting full of themselves again.
💪💪 for real, gunbreaker needs to be knock down a peg
Dumbreaker 4 Lyfe
@@Psy0ps1 😎😎
As a DRK, I do hope it gets buffed a bit. It should be 2nd. It's easier to play than GNB but WARs are downright unkillable and can solo most content, so that survivability does need some trade off.
@@VioletteValkyria drk certainly has the weakest self sustain out of all tanks, or just the other tanks have too much
I can still out dps ppl as blm, we're still at the higher end if your skill is high, its just easier to mess up now. the new manafont gives us the 2 min burst cooldown we desperatly needed to compete
ye its pretty high up in skill level, blm is lot better now
Summoner getting nothing new, hurt like hell. Such a fun dps it used to be with a brutaly hard opener got... a HEAL? Leveld it, hated it, swapped to picto becasue they are more fun to play and have burst
🥲such is life
Pictos don;t need six direct crits in a row
wait is that whats happening 🤣🤣that sounds busted!
@@StingcatKnight Stacking Hammers back to back
Shouldn't be any sort of reasonable balance that has ranged DPS staying on par with melee DPS. That's just bad job balance, because it'll mean with two equal choices in DPS, you're not going to take the melee DPS with highest risk. PCT needs to be down there with SMN.
@@JS-kr8fs I agree to some sort of nerf to picto for sure! Not sure if it should be as low as summoner because it does have a rez
7.01 patch notes just dropped. they literally just buffed warrior. what the fuq is even tank balance.
LOL NO WAY HAHAHHA
Are you all excited for the upcoming pictomancer nerf? Or do you think there will be no nerf at all and that it is perfectly balanced?
Yes but I also hope they speed up some Picto animations (or make them instant) and slow down some Viper animations
@@BaithNa I think the slow animation is pictos core identity and part of what u need to figure out in order to optimise picto well!
Viper honestly I barely played it, not that interested in it atm so can’t comment much on that.
When has square nerfed any job they will just buff everything else to match
@@mr_nubsie3340 👍👍fine with that too!
With the job change patch notes. Pictomancer DPS will be more normalized due to the fact that people are effectively skill canceling their Subtractive Palette after casting Comet in Black. It's not gonna nerf it into the ground but definitely bring it closer to where BLM is in terms of DPS effectiveness.
Dude your commentary shows you know nothing about ff14 picto is not getting nerfed and sage is a battle healer so it should out dps all healers.
Come on man try to learn the jobs
ye picto should still get nerfed tho cause its op whether it will happen or not is a separate case, I mentioned maybe its not so great idea to nerf any of the healers and just leave it be, if u had ears u'd hear brothermen
One Question, you are saying Picto should be doing Rdm Damge right, or maybe even less. Why would you play/take a Picto over a Rdm who can res while doing more dmg? Whats the difference between Picto and a Dragoon who got a buff for the group same as Picto, same for Ninja and Reaper. Why should they do more dmg than a Picto ? Crazy ppl keep thinking Mages or Mages who are not BLM should do less dmg than Melee's.
No I certainly didn't say that, I say picto just needs a nerf, at least below or close to BLM
@@StingcatKnight Oh I missheard that my bad sorry!
@@smoky2310 👍👍no problemo
Blm is back at #1 for dps go look
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No is not? Is Top 6 now lol PCT still superior lmao
Black mage on the bottom, lmfao, trash balance at it's finest.
🤣🤣 well well, its partly due to how the fight has a lot of movement, in ex2 u can see that its doing lot better, but can still use a good solid buff!
@@StingcatKnight this is something I have wondered about, and now I guess the results are in, even in casual content boss fights it feels like all you do is run around just to torture black mages, and I guess its working.
@@Gee-xb7rt I can imagine it is a big struggle for BLM in ex1
so why Nerf a class that people are enjoying instead of buffing the ones lacking. BLM has been top caster for 14 years. why can there not be another caster thats better?
well heres a problem, the way it is set up, pictomancer is out rdpsing some melees/on par with them which is never suppose to happen from design pov, fights will just be extremely easy with picto and without picto u are basically griefing the whole party
blm does not always need to be the top top obviously but it should at least be on par with picto at this point
If all jobs can output 100%, damage should be going to be higher for the hardest ones to play and who doesn't have any buffs to the party. So pretty much, Pics ease of play as well as lot of buffs, pics damage should be mid range, maybe even before RDM but above SMN
If you would be willing to dump all your party buffs, then you would still be under BLM as pic is so easy to play.
I don't think its buffed as much as boss fights are a whole lot of running around now, and that effects black mages. I haven't really tried it but my assumption is blm even in late casual EW would be a pain.
@@Gee-xb7rtno trust me it was not. A good BLM would learn the fight so much they knew when to use their procs, AM, Triple cast for long moving mechanics.
Atm its pretty bad as not as much procs to use, and on such tight time limit it leaves very little time for OGCDs or other spells. Flarestar our new lvl 100 spell is soooo easy to lose. I doubt any job has a max level ability they lose due to a mechanic
@@ChandaniAranka So Picto should do less damage than a caster who can res? Also why shouldnt Picto do more Rdps than a Melee? You can almost have 100% uptime as Melee without any problem, as caster you have to Cast and Slidecast to safezones etc. it just makes no sense that ppl keep saying that Melee should do more dmg cause its "harder". We have 2 Support Caster and 2 "full" Dps Caster. I get that BLM should do higher Ndps but for rdps they should do the same in the end. No point in nerfing Picto to do as little dmg as Rdm.