LET'S TALK TECH-DO OVERSIZED INTERCOOLERS HURT HP?

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  • @jeffboyer8214
    @jeffboyer8214 Рік тому +1

    Ok,
    Here is my list on a 1.4 t cruze
    1 in spacer between head & plastic non modified intake ( air dams still installed ).
    Large front mount intercooler rated for 400 hp. & large pipes.
    Stock tune & stock air box with resonator delete & k & n drop in filter.
    My numbers from my maf. Says 163 hp at the crank & 139 to 140 at the wheel. It makes my daily driver more fun to drive. The stock cooler was 1 in wide & 25 in long & the new intercooler is 3.5 in wide and 30 inches from intake to exit.
    My pipes are 2.5 in outer diameter & way bigger than needed, but it works and no engine lights.
    Be safe.

  • @ragtopdeluxezl1
    @ragtopdeluxezl1 Рік тому +1

    We have a dual fan intercooler that does well on all but the hottest days. If we add a trunk tank the charge will be cool as long as the water and/or ice remain cool in the tank, on the other hand is the Interchiller which will keep the IAT temps low throughout the run, but do drip condensation, so a belly pan, and/or insulation is a must on the track. Chillers are AC based so it puts stress on the AC system if you use it in the cabin as well. Short answer to the question is no....

  • @dogprowilhelm7630
    @dogprowilhelm7630 11 місяців тому +1

    Peroxide injection, or Cooled Peroxide Injection for decrease in temperature, plus more oxygen is best. Seen them used on offshore turbodiesel speed boats and will work on the street too.

  • @aikidokamks
    @aikidokamks Місяць тому +1

    I was thinking of a larger air water intercooler because I/O are positioned better for my application and I would have more coolant in the overall system

  • @astrayalien
    @astrayalien Рік тому +4

    Could you please test water to air intercoolers with different cooling liquids?

  • @177SCmaro
    @177SCmaro Рік тому +1

    I would actually say that, yes, in theory it is possible to for the air to be too cold, especially if you have a carburetor but the issue isn't power it's ice. Icing is a thing especially older air planes had to deal with. But in practical terms, in a car, it's not something you're going to have deal with unless you're racing your car at like 20,000 feet through clouds in which case ice is probably the least of your concerns.

    • @2lotusman851
      @2lotusman851 Рік тому

      Anything below 50F ambient and high humidity (say-- fog) with a carburetor with no carb heat going in, and no heating below the carb can ice.
      This starts at the idle discharge ports (no more idle), and works up towards the boosters. Eventually it can freeze the throttle shaft and cause it to stick. Happened too many times to me in the Central Valley of Ca. in the winter.
      Temperatures below 32F can carry ice particles in the air, and jam the carb up from the outside, if there's no intake heat supplied. But this is more of an airplane problem, I think.
      Never had a carb ice on me in Washington state, except a Cessna airplane that iced the carb during a mag check on the ground!
      Which now that I think about it, scares the hell out of me.

  • @hoost3056
    @hoost3056 Рік тому +3

    Size doesn't matter but flow does. Lowest pressure drop across the core is everything

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +3

      the lowest pressure drop would come with little or no cooling, heat transfer and flow must be balanced

    • @PiterStreak
      @PiterStreak Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 definitely is a balance. A lot more important for supercharged guys. Old intercooler cooled less than my new one, but new one robs an extra 5psi of boost for that better cooling.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      5 psi of boost drop is excessive in any cooler

  • @nateberlant6320
    @nateberlant6320 Рік тому +1

    Using a rear mounted Carteck turbo kit on my 91 NSX, where the intercoolers are behind rear tires. What would be better to improve first A, Intercooler size or B. Airflow ducting made more direct to intercooler to force air through cooler? All supporting mods are complete 3.5 liter, ported heads etc.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      both can help-you need to monitor the change in air temp through the core

  • @gdu370
    @gdu370 Рік тому +1

    I was driving in the winter Albuquerque at night with 14 F in my 1.0l EcoBoost Fiesta with triple the size of an stock intercooler and I started to lose my mpgs from 46 to 32 mpgs while going 70mph and at the same time engine temp went down by 15 degrees; was it getting too much o2?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      only thing I can think is the IAT sensor was seeing very cold air and added fuel? or were you just enjoying all the extra power?

  • @Zionslayer1
    @Zionslayer1 Рік тому +2

    If the air is as cold as it is going to get half way through the intercooler, then the other half is a restriction. It will make more power with a cooler half the size.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +2

      no

    • @kevinwest3689
      @kevinwest3689 Рік тому +1

      So...if you have an intercooler half the size, does your theory go out the window? Or should I get one half the size of half the size of half the size? And by restriction do you think that the air through the second-half got warmer than what it was when it came in the first half? Because Richard already explained the volume thing the molecules at the beginning of the video. Plus there's been videos for rear mount turbos with much longer are charged intake. That's what I like about Richard I don't have to overthink things and wonder if I'm right, or spend a bunch of money cuz somebody in the comments section had a different opinion and you don't know who to listen to. He's not just an Enthusiast it's his job, and he has nothing for sale. You should probably contact your Congressman we could probably have a holder day and everybody get a day of with pay to wrench on your project. Just don't let the wife find out or you'll end up out in the garden pulling weeds instead ✌

    • @Zionslayer1
      @Zionslayer1 Рік тому

      @@kevinwest3689 , read what I wrote instead of getting type happy. The fins in an intercooler pose a restriction to the flow of the charge air. That is why we get a pressure drop between the inlet and outlet. There is a point where a longer intercooler will not EFFECTIVELY cool the charge anymore and the remaining fins the air hits, becomes an unnecessary RESTRICTION. It's called 'diminishing return'. Richard, put a 2000hp intercooler on your Dodge 2.2l compared to a 500hp one.

    • @jonathancorbett5917
      @jonathancorbett5917 Рік тому

      @@Zionslayer1 I see what you're saying: excess length of a narrow cooer being more restriction. but a 2000 hp intercooler is going to have massive ducts and little pressure drop under 800 hp just more volume making slightly more lag.

    • @kevinwest3689
      @kevinwest3689 Рік тому

      @@Zionslayer1 okie dokie 👍well... don't forget to vote for Richard holdener day🎆 you can spend the day building the perfect 🧟‍♂️ intercooler, sell them, and be just like Rick James $🕺

  • @cromBumny
    @cromBumny Рік тому +2

    I can't really image too cool a charge, but the engine can be...

  • @conditionisin8918
    @conditionisin8918 Рік тому +1

    OK bigger is better. Will a smaller core rated at 700 hp still work for 1000?

  • @frenchydampier2209
    @frenchydampier2209 Рік тому +1

    But don’t you lose by making the air flow through a longer tract?

  • @Whosurdaddy71
    @Whosurdaddy71 Рік тому +2

    Yes the air gets too cold. You ever tried breathing outside when it’s -60F 😂

  • @joseiracheta3817
    @joseiracheta3817 Рік тому +1

    Doin the 🪱 😆

  • @bidensucks3669
    @bidensucks3669 Рік тому +1

    Hi Richard. I enjoy watching all your videos. I recently pulled an LM7 from the bone yard and going to open up the ring gap. My question is , do you replace the rod bolts or reuse them. I've heard that using ARP for example requires having the rods resized and oversized bearings.
    Thanks

  • @williambylsma3084
    @williambylsma3084 Рік тому +2

    Alcohol funny cars freeze there fuel to cool the air charges