Ok, Here is my list on a 1.4 t cruze 1 in spacer between head & plastic non modified intake ( air dams still installed ). Large front mount intercooler rated for 400 hp. & large pipes. Stock tune & stock air box with resonator delete & k & n drop in filter. My numbers from my maf. Says 163 hp at the crank & 139 to 140 at the wheel. It makes my daily driver more fun to drive. The stock cooler was 1 in wide & 25 in long & the new intercooler is 3.5 in wide and 30 inches from intake to exit. My pipes are 2.5 in outer diameter & way bigger than needed, but it works and no engine lights. Be safe.
We have a dual fan intercooler that does well on all but the hottest days. If we add a trunk tank the charge will be cool as long as the water and/or ice remain cool in the tank, on the other hand is the Interchiller which will keep the IAT temps low throughout the run, but do drip condensation, so a belly pan, and/or insulation is a must on the track. Chillers are AC based so it puts stress on the AC system if you use it in the cabin as well. Short answer to the question is no....
Peroxide injection, or Cooled Peroxide Injection for decrease in temperature, plus more oxygen is best. Seen them used on offshore turbodiesel speed boats and will work on the street too.
I was thinking of a larger air water intercooler because I/O are positioned better for my application and I would have more coolant in the overall system
I would actually say that, yes, in theory it is possible to for the air to be too cold, especially if you have a carburetor but the issue isn't power it's ice. Icing is a thing especially older air planes had to deal with. But in practical terms, in a car, it's not something you're going to have deal with unless you're racing your car at like 20,000 feet through clouds in which case ice is probably the least of your concerns.
Anything below 50F ambient and high humidity (say-- fog) with a carburetor with no carb heat going in, and no heating below the carb can ice. This starts at the idle discharge ports (no more idle), and works up towards the boosters. Eventually it can freeze the throttle shaft and cause it to stick. Happened too many times to me in the Central Valley of Ca. in the winter. Temperatures below 32F can carry ice particles in the air, and jam the carb up from the outside, if there's no intake heat supplied. But this is more of an airplane problem, I think. Never had a carb ice on me in Washington state, except a Cessna airplane that iced the carb during a mag check on the ground! Which now that I think about it, scares the hell out of me.
@@richardholdener1727 definitely is a balance. A lot more important for supercharged guys. Old intercooler cooled less than my new one, but new one robs an extra 5psi of boost for that better cooling.
Using a rear mounted Carteck turbo kit on my 91 NSX, where the intercoolers are behind rear tires. What would be better to improve first A, Intercooler size or B. Airflow ducting made more direct to intercooler to force air through cooler? All supporting mods are complete 3.5 liter, ported heads etc.
I was driving in the winter Albuquerque at night with 14 F in my 1.0l EcoBoost Fiesta with triple the size of an stock intercooler and I started to lose my mpgs from 46 to 32 mpgs while going 70mph and at the same time engine temp went down by 15 degrees; was it getting too much o2?
If the air is as cold as it is going to get half way through the intercooler, then the other half is a restriction. It will make more power with a cooler half the size.
So...if you have an intercooler half the size, does your theory go out the window? Or should I get one half the size of half the size of half the size? And by restriction do you think that the air through the second-half got warmer than what it was when it came in the first half? Because Richard already explained the volume thing the molecules at the beginning of the video. Plus there's been videos for rear mount turbos with much longer are charged intake. That's what I like about Richard I don't have to overthink things and wonder if I'm right, or spend a bunch of money cuz somebody in the comments section had a different opinion and you don't know who to listen to. He's not just an Enthusiast it's his job, and he has nothing for sale. You should probably contact your Congressman we could probably have a holder day and everybody get a day of with pay to wrench on your project. Just don't let the wife find out or you'll end up out in the garden pulling weeds instead ✌
@@kevinwest3689 , read what I wrote instead of getting type happy. The fins in an intercooler pose a restriction to the flow of the charge air. That is why we get a pressure drop between the inlet and outlet. There is a point where a longer intercooler will not EFFECTIVELY cool the charge anymore and the remaining fins the air hits, becomes an unnecessary RESTRICTION. It's called 'diminishing return'. Richard, put a 2000hp intercooler on your Dodge 2.2l compared to a 500hp one.
@@Zionslayer1 I see what you're saying: excess length of a narrow cooer being more restriction. but a 2000 hp intercooler is going to have massive ducts and little pressure drop under 800 hp just more volume making slightly more lag.
@@Zionslayer1 okie dokie 👍well... don't forget to vote for Richard holdener day🎆 you can spend the day building the perfect 🧟♂️ intercooler, sell them, and be just like Rick James $🕺
Hi Richard. I enjoy watching all your videos. I recently pulled an LM7 from the bone yard and going to open up the ring gap. My question is , do you replace the rod bolts or reuse them. I've heard that using ARP for example requires having the rods resized and oversized bearings. Thanks
Ok,
Here is my list on a 1.4 t cruze
1 in spacer between head & plastic non modified intake ( air dams still installed ).
Large front mount intercooler rated for 400 hp. & large pipes.
Stock tune & stock air box with resonator delete & k & n drop in filter.
My numbers from my maf. Says 163 hp at the crank & 139 to 140 at the wheel. It makes my daily driver more fun to drive. The stock cooler was 1 in wide & 25 in long & the new intercooler is 3.5 in wide and 30 inches from intake to exit.
My pipes are 2.5 in outer diameter & way bigger than needed, but it works and no engine lights.
Be safe.
We have a dual fan intercooler that does well on all but the hottest days. If we add a trunk tank the charge will be cool as long as the water and/or ice remain cool in the tank, on the other hand is the Interchiller which will keep the IAT temps low throughout the run, but do drip condensation, so a belly pan, and/or insulation is a must on the track. Chillers are AC based so it puts stress on the AC system if you use it in the cabin as well. Short answer to the question is no....
Peroxide injection, or Cooled Peroxide Injection for decrease in temperature, plus more oxygen is best. Seen them used on offshore turbodiesel speed boats and will work on the street too.
I was thinking of a larger air water intercooler because I/O are positioned better for my application and I would have more coolant in the overall system
Could you please test water to air intercoolers with different cooling liquids?
I would actually say that, yes, in theory it is possible to for the air to be too cold, especially if you have a carburetor but the issue isn't power it's ice. Icing is a thing especially older air planes had to deal with. But in practical terms, in a car, it's not something you're going to have deal with unless you're racing your car at like 20,000 feet through clouds in which case ice is probably the least of your concerns.
Anything below 50F ambient and high humidity (say-- fog) with a carburetor with no carb heat going in, and no heating below the carb can ice.
This starts at the idle discharge ports (no more idle), and works up towards the boosters. Eventually it can freeze the throttle shaft and cause it to stick. Happened too many times to me in the Central Valley of Ca. in the winter.
Temperatures below 32F can carry ice particles in the air, and jam the carb up from the outside, if there's no intake heat supplied. But this is more of an airplane problem, I think.
Never had a carb ice on me in Washington state, except a Cessna airplane that iced the carb during a mag check on the ground!
Which now that I think about it, scares the hell out of me.
Size doesn't matter but flow does. Lowest pressure drop across the core is everything
the lowest pressure drop would come with little or no cooling, heat transfer and flow must be balanced
@@richardholdener1727 definitely is a balance. A lot more important for supercharged guys. Old intercooler cooled less than my new one, but new one robs an extra 5psi of boost for that better cooling.
5 psi of boost drop is excessive in any cooler
Using a rear mounted Carteck turbo kit on my 91 NSX, where the intercoolers are behind rear tires. What would be better to improve first A, Intercooler size or B. Airflow ducting made more direct to intercooler to force air through cooler? All supporting mods are complete 3.5 liter, ported heads etc.
both can help-you need to monitor the change in air temp through the core
I was driving in the winter Albuquerque at night with 14 F in my 1.0l EcoBoost Fiesta with triple the size of an stock intercooler and I started to lose my mpgs from 46 to 32 mpgs while going 70mph and at the same time engine temp went down by 15 degrees; was it getting too much o2?
only thing I can think is the IAT sensor was seeing very cold air and added fuel? or were you just enjoying all the extra power?
If the air is as cold as it is going to get half way through the intercooler, then the other half is a restriction. It will make more power with a cooler half the size.
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So...if you have an intercooler half the size, does your theory go out the window? Or should I get one half the size of half the size of half the size? And by restriction do you think that the air through the second-half got warmer than what it was when it came in the first half? Because Richard already explained the volume thing the molecules at the beginning of the video. Plus there's been videos for rear mount turbos with much longer are charged intake. That's what I like about Richard I don't have to overthink things and wonder if I'm right, or spend a bunch of money cuz somebody in the comments section had a different opinion and you don't know who to listen to. He's not just an Enthusiast it's his job, and he has nothing for sale. You should probably contact your Congressman we could probably have a holder day and everybody get a day of with pay to wrench on your project. Just don't let the wife find out or you'll end up out in the garden pulling weeds instead ✌
@@kevinwest3689 , read what I wrote instead of getting type happy. The fins in an intercooler pose a restriction to the flow of the charge air. That is why we get a pressure drop between the inlet and outlet. There is a point where a longer intercooler will not EFFECTIVELY cool the charge anymore and the remaining fins the air hits, becomes an unnecessary RESTRICTION. It's called 'diminishing return'. Richard, put a 2000hp intercooler on your Dodge 2.2l compared to a 500hp one.
@@Zionslayer1 I see what you're saying: excess length of a narrow cooer being more restriction. but a 2000 hp intercooler is going to have massive ducts and little pressure drop under 800 hp just more volume making slightly more lag.
@@Zionslayer1 okie dokie 👍well... don't forget to vote for Richard holdener day🎆 you can spend the day building the perfect 🧟♂️ intercooler, sell them, and be just like Rick James $🕺
I can't really image too cool a charge, but the engine can be...
OK bigger is better. Will a smaller core rated at 700 hp still work for 1000?
not very well
But don’t you lose by making the air flow through a longer tract?
lose what?
Yes the air gets too cold. You ever tried breathing outside when it’s -60F 😂
Big boost temps
Try breathing at +160F :p
Doin the 🪱 😆
Hi Richard. I enjoy watching all your videos. I recently pulled an LM7 from the bone yard and going to open up the ring gap. My question is , do you replace the rod bolts or reuse them. I've heard that using ARP for example requires having the rods resized and oversized bearings.
Thanks
REUSE STOCK
Thanks for your reply.
Alcohol funny cars freeze there fuel to cool the air charges