Surge was impressive despite the end of the major being a bit of a smoke show. That said getting smoked by FaZe is normal for 99% of the league. As for Ultra? That was nice to see them fight back into those matches. I think 04 and Abuzzah are the building blocks. Breszy is rather interesting. Not sure what you should do. Huke is good… when he’s good. When he’s not nuke Huke he is someone I could see them replacing. I think if you are Surge you throw the bag at Ghosty and Lynnz. Ghosty, Abuzzah, 04, and Lynns is a team I think could put most teams in the dumpster and matchup well against the top teams.
@@uCMasterking when pat cried for 30 minutes about LAG playing well. Meanwhile he'll glaze 100T for placing top 6, but if LAG ""ARENT FIRST THEN WTF ARE THEY DOING
For once I disagree with Pat. Pat sounding like Ricky Bobby with this "if you ain't first you're last" braindead take. He doesn't talk about LAT like he does LAG. He has some very specific hate for LAG for some odd reason. I wonder, seeing as Pat is such a LeBum/Laker fanboy, if in his head it's some weirdo Laker/Clipper parallel between LAT/LAG for him. Anyway, the players on LAG are clearly a group of young guys with a crappy org trying to prove their worth. They're beating out teams that everyone always says is better than them, even beating some top teams. Nobody is going to say they are Faze and that's really not realistic with the current state of talent outside the top teams. But they clearly are trying to improve. Can't hate on them for that. EDIT: Also, since Ultra can't win a tournament and finished 2nd to Optic last major, I guess that means they are actually horrible as well. Ain't first...last.
Wait a minute hold on a second I’m confused… aren’t the Guerrillas still currently in this tournament? so if they manage to win, not saying they will, but let’s say hypothetically they do, will Aches still say that’s a participation trophy?
chris was cooking, love pat but he’s being a hater. *team wins a online match* pat: it’s just a match *team wins a lan match* pat: it’s just a match *team makes top 4* pat: it’s just top 4 *team wins major* pat: they just played good on ONE day bro make up your mind 💀
lat should've chalked the b site and defended that A control as if their lives depended on it. i dont know who died from sib but if that mothafucka didn't comm that shit, he costed em. also that's just poor decision making from the team as a whole
Why is Pat even on the show? Literally all he does is move the goal post and make excuses. LAG beat TOR because there's no fans, LAT got embarrassed twice but "hey they made Champs" means it never happened. Like bro is just a caricature of annoyance and stupidity
They have 3 of the top 5 players in the game in every cod since bo4. They always have the best team. Ny has the best player in the last two cods with hydra Skyz isn't a top 10 player with sib or kismet Neither is Kenny or dashy Pred and shottzy barely make the top 10
I'm really curious why ANYONE would be high on LAT. LAT had 1 LAN win before this major. Why would you think they are better at LAN than LAG? Seriously.
The way Parasite talks about these teams is kinda wild. He will talk about a player on a team then refer to the rest of the team as if there are 10 other guys. He constantly says "Some of the other players on this team". MFer if you arent talking about one of them there's only three other fucking guys it could be and you're say SOME. So annoying
I can’t believe they didn’t talk about that A side spawn in the NY/LAT CTL. I think it genuinely lost LAT the control and then the match. Unacceptable that that spawn is a thing
of corse 04 is a smart player search takes alot of thinking to play right. Also aches is right this is some participation era bullshit i will give them some credit for what they did. But teams being satisfied with the little wins is why they continue to lose
No they won't they should stick together and stop making changes every season when something goes bad that's not how you win when this team is going hard its hard to beat them they just need to get there again
Huke was ass but the way they talk about him versus other players is crazy, Asim and Accuracy have been worse yet they barely talk about it cause they friends with them
I like the addition of showing clips n highlights from the stream on the site. However from a viewers perspective i can't see shit in the minimap when people are breaking it down. Need to go fullscreen please!
Got your team to champs. Well done Vikul. Win or lose, you've proved you can compete with the best. Watchin your journey past few years has been a movie. Earned it brother. You and all your Miami guys are insane. Reaals diff.
I've been watching for over 2 years now, and the show was generally entertaining and insightful. Nowadays Aches just has too much hate, negativity and the entertainment has gone. It is not entertaining to watch Pat have purposefully controversial takes, and a shouting match to make his point, it ruins the show. This has been building up for a while, but I won't watch anymore. We get the same info in a Tac Rab vid, in 15 mins, without all the egotistical and biased commentary.
Aches is absolutely PISSED that LAG made it to a champs tourney… his entire retirement has been riding on the fact that they have been equally as trash in the years since he got cut/(“retired” lmaoo sure he chose to step down 🤡🤡🤡) as the team was with him in 2019
Ahhh, of course, fake event cause no fans. That means even if Toronto wins this event, Aches shouldn’t give them ANY credit If Toronto doesn’t win champs, Aches needs to call them shit
Obvi LAG are ass and not a top 4 team but they've done more with less than any other team in the league and I think it deserves to be tipped. The players could have chalked it but they continued to fight and were rewarded, we don't need to celebrate but tipping our cap in recognition is fine.
Aches is right. Basically what he’s saying is if their mentality is “we are happy we made champs!” then they will never win anything. No team should’ve satisfied with that. If you are satisfied with that the hunger for more is gone
Aches is not right lmao. This isnt a salary cap league like American sports this is like Formula 1 or football where the best teams have the best resources and theres no balance. Pred alone cost more than two bottom 8 teams salaries + coaches combined. Expecting a team with a 200k budget to be consistently competitive with teams with 1M to 2M dollar budgets is absolutely delusional. Theres no way for them to get top players because the t4 teams will offer more money ever single time. The fact that LAG beat a top team on LAN and place t3 minimum while OpTic is t12 is insanely tippable.
Pat don’t make no sense when it comes to this LAG shit. Knit picking whether or not the coaches are getting paid still makes them a resource and clearly an improvement for the team.
Simp has been way more consistent than Hydra the whole season. Just pull up both his stats against the Top 4. It's not even close. And yeah, FaZe without Simp would probably be a m very solid team, but WITH him they're THE BEST. That also matters.
@@HopefulNihilist it’s also easier to be consistent when u have the best team in the world paco carries ny half the time he’s asked to do way more then simp
@@codydouglas8631 False. You just say "just replace a teams best player" for a "solid replacement" and they're nearly the same. It doesn't work like that.
This is the most I’ve ever heard slaya laugh 😂😂
He’s just so happy optic isn’t playing on Sunday
Cause his cam off and he probably slamming some brews or somethin, and he just moved to Dallas and OpTic lose I’m sure he’s in a great mood
Aches legacy crash out at 35:40
Surge was impressive despite the end of the major being a bit of a smoke show. That said getting smoked by FaZe is normal for 99% of the league. As for Ultra? That was nice to see them fight back into those matches. I think 04 and Abuzzah are the building blocks. Breszy is rather interesting. Not sure what you should do. Huke is good… when he’s good. When he’s not nuke Huke he is someone I could see them replacing. I think if you are Surge you throw the bag at Ghosty and Lynnz. Ghosty, Abuzzah, 04, and Lynns is a team I think could put most teams in the dumpster and matchup well against the top teams.
Bro Ben is unintentionally funny 😂😂 even slaya laughs about it
“I know, but i was trying to draw chris up”
25:17
He’s a bendejo
He’s just so damn creepy, that’s why everyone was laughing. 50 year old man whispering at a playground. Ben is definitely registered
@@buckshot5896brah, you have 50 comments+ talking about Ben on every episode. You're the creep🤣
Aches monitor got hella spit on it
NAH HAGGY STAND BEHIND YOUR BOYS
Aches legacy episode. And it wasn’t even an optic episode. What the fuck.
35:00 - 40:00. Holy motherfuck.
Yo whoever came up with bendejo in the chat today is a goat Fr
My favourite thing is watching the ben memes and "blabbing" comments. ben and pat are an inseparable duo
Bendejo was the best thing that came from chat 😂🤣
Huke plays the UAV role a lot.. it's like Seattle is 3 v 4 against every team with a constant UAV.. If he can just play his life its a good idea.
pat having a meltdown from chris giving props to people's effort had me dying😂
When was that?
@@uCMasterking when pat cried for 30 minutes about LAG playing well. Meanwhile he'll glaze 100T for placing top 6, but if LAG ""ARENT FIRST THEN WTF ARE THEY DOING
It’s hilarious how Ben gets called a yapper but no one ever calls out Pat for yelling over people
Absolutely phenomenal episode
Duarte starting early with the hawk tuah
For once I disagree with Pat. Pat sounding like Ricky Bobby with this "if you ain't first you're last" braindead take.
He doesn't talk about LAT like he does LAG. He has some very specific hate for LAG for some odd reason. I wonder, seeing as Pat is such a LeBum/Laker fanboy, if in his head it's some weirdo Laker/Clipper parallel between LAT/LAG for him. Anyway, the players on LAG are clearly a group of young guys with a crappy org trying to prove their worth. They're beating out teams that everyone always says is better than them, even beating some top teams. Nobody is going to say they are Faze and that's really not realistic with the current state of talent outside the top teams. But they clearly are trying to improve. Can't hate on them for that.
EDIT: Also, since Ultra can't win a tournament and finished 2nd to Optic last major, I guess that means they are actually horrible as well. Ain't first...last.
Chris spitting facts about pat on god cause when Toronto or faze do good he talks them tf up
Wait a minute hold on a second I’m confused… aren’t the Guerrillas still currently in this tournament? so if they manage to win, not saying they will, but let’s say hypothetically they do, will Aches still say that’s a participation trophy?
Lets not call Hydra godlike til he plays a decent team (like Ultra tmrw)
ACHES AT 35:00 HOLY COOOOOOK
chris was cooking, love pat but he’s being a hater.
*team wins a online match*
pat: it’s just a match
*team wins a lan match*
pat: it’s just a match
*team makes top 4*
pat: it’s just top 4
*team wins major*
pat: they just played good on ONE day
bro make up your mind 💀
New episode of the flank got me filibusting
When does optic play lmao. Faze up green wall down
Optic is just ASS, it’s that simple
Duh
The amount of braincells I've lost by reading twitch chat bruh
It isn't even just twitch esports live chats is responsible for more dead braincells than dabs, carts, and flower combined lmao
lat should've chalked the b site and defended that A control as if their lives depended on it. i dont know who died from sib but if that mothafucka didn't comm that shit, he costed em. also that's just poor decision making from the team as a whole
As the great Josh Pate said, “you are not what your record says you are.” Some of these close maps are telling for Toronto and NY
Why is Pat even on the show? Literally all he does is move the goal post and make excuses. LAG beat TOR because there's no fans, LAT got embarrassed twice but "hey they made Champs" means it never happened. Like bro is just a caricature of annoyance and stupidity
faze are unreal I will never take the trio of Cell simp and abe for granted
Imagine leaving DRAZAH out of this convo 🤡🤡🤡🤡 Drazah has been the best pick up of the season for any team
They have 3 of the top 5 players in the game in every cod since bo4. They always have the best team. Ny has the best player in the last two cods with hydra
Skyz isn't a top 10 player with sib or kismet
Neither is Kenny or dashy
Pred and shottzy barely make the top 10
I'm really curious why ANYONE would be high on LAT. LAT had 1 LAN win before this major.
Why would you think they are better at LAN than LAG? Seriously.
The way Parasite talks about these teams is kinda wild. He will talk about a player on a team then refer to the rest of the team as if there are 10 other guys. He constantly says "Some of the other players on this team". MFer if you arent talking about one of them there's only three other fucking guys it could be and you're say SOME. So annoying
I can’t believe they didn’t talk about that A side spawn in the NY/LAT CTL. I think it genuinely lost LAT the control and then the match. Unacceptable that that spawn is a thing
PAT SPEAKING FACTS this inclusion participation trophy shit is so wack and lame yall weak these days
of corse 04 is a smart player search takes alot of thinking to play right. Also aches is right this is some participation era bullshit i will give them some credit for what they did. But teams being satisfied with the little wins is why they continue to lose
04 IS THE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR 🔥
Honestly it's 04 or Abuzah, the 2 are insanely good
gwinn for me
SNOOPIE ROTY
@@CursedWithABlessinggwinn fell off too hard and didn’t make champs
Faze can get F'd. NYSL slapped them around. Really think the Flank needs to work on their biasies?
Dude I'm gonna miss the flank after champs...this is like my favorite form of entertainment
New York Cloud 9ers. I feel like that would be fire and keeps the essence of both orgs
another LAN another L for FLOPTIC 7 years of being mid asf
Haggy gotta put the coke down. Boy got dark circles around his eyes
Is HyDra on the market next season? If so do we think OpTic might make a change for him if they don’t place well at champs?
Unless they win champs which is unlikely. They will make a change. Just hope they don’t drop Kenny
No they won't they should stick together and stop making changes every season when something goes bad that's not how you win when this team is going hard its hard to beat them they just need to get there again
@@vinsmokesanji6280why is it unlikely they win champs because they got 12th so what doesn't mean they can't win champs
@@elijahcruz2141 they've lost 12 snds in a row this team is chalked might be lucky to one series at champs and place t6
@@grantweir5982 we will see I got them winning champs
Are we gonna talk about lag 3rd and estreal being rookie of the year!?
No timestamps absolutely washed producer Ben J
How does this affect Cocktanes legacy
Na we need a flank roster change, i cant listen to haggys voice anymore
😂😂 talk about a faded take, ur tripping.
He truly has the "the best analysis in the game"
Damn saying ultra will 3-0 NY is crazy
Ultra gonna SLAM NYSL...wtf are you talking about 😂😂😂 u act as if NYSL is good or something
Lost respect for Pat on this LAG rant. L take.
Gotta disagree with Pat on the LAG take
if FaZe lose this major they are cursed bro.
nah but theres a reason they average top 3 lol someones gotta win and someones gotta lose but they always make it to Sunday.
need the time stamps
Huke was ass but the way they talk about him versus other players is crazy, Asim and Accuracy have been worse yet they barely talk about it cause they friends with them
I hate Ben
The more I watch hydra the more I like what I see , if him and scrap team up it’s game over
Not really, faze still exist
@@woah4288 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they struggle to win against Toronto now , if hydra was ok the team . Don’t kid urself
@@raedkhan2219 simp > hydra and scrap
Abezy=hydra
Cell=scrap lmao
@@woah4288 you completely avoided his point lol , Scrap , Ghosty , CleanX and Hydra would run laps on faze
@@mariovibesss6129 ghosty 😂😂😂😂 that team gets 3-0 door dashed be serious
I like the addition of showing clips n highlights from the stream on the site. However from a viewers perspective i can't see shit in the minimap when people are breaking it down. Need to go fullscreen please!
Only kids hating on Ben, what the fuck is new 🤣🤣
How come we had to get no pat on his "master class" episodes? When optic lose to Boston and get T12 he isn't there.
Remember that time Optic got last at a event?
Which time? They've gotten top 12 3 times in the last 2 years 🤣🤣 something FaZe has never ever been close to getting ☠️
@@MoppedVALholy glaze you faze fans are so odd 😂
@@zucxys faze has literally never started in losers bracket lol call it glazing but faze has an unprecedented level of consistency win or lose.
@@vibes24osrs no shit they’re a good team no one said they weren’t.. it’s glazing because the og post has nothing to do with faze 😂
Yea...which time??? 😂
Got your team to champs. Well done Vikul. Win or lose, you've proved you can compete with the best. Watchin your journey past few years has been a movie. Earned it brother. You and all your Miami guys are insane. Reaals diff.
Pats take LAG take is bad
“I’m amUdextreeUSyeah” -Tom AKA Tomasi AKA Luigi AKA Big Nose AKA Mr. FourandTwentyThree
Why is the video showing clips now a frame within a frame within a frame?
Crash out ep
Pat always talks more when he doesn't have a camera on.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEE TELL BEN TO QUIT FUCKING TALKING BRO
full screen analyzing is so needed zoomaa, im going blind
always disrespecting huke man :/
Because he’s been shite. Why should they let him get away with it just because he’s huke?
time stamps?
First
I FUCKING LOVE PATTTTTTT
Yerrrrrr
NO MORE C4 BEN
🌶🌶🌶🌶
I've been watching for over 2 years now, and the show was generally entertaining and insightful. Nowadays Aches just has too much hate, negativity and the entertainment has gone. It is not entertaining to watch Pat have purposefully controversial takes, and a shouting match to make his point, it ruins the show. This has been building up for a while, but I won't watch anymore. We get the same info in a Tac Rab vid, in 15 mins, without all the egotistical and biased commentary.
100%
So dont watch 👌👌👌👌 NOBODY cares if you are here
Anyways, NYSL IS WINNING MAJOR 4 $2k on it
Pretty sure I watched Huke slam the terrors on lan in vanguard but wtv Ben
NO SHOCKER ZOOMA PICKS FAZE
Great comment Reggie rock
@@walkercuz7905 thank you WALKERCUZ
you’re either the best or you’re nothing. @aches is a legend for that quote
Surge were blacklisted from scrims for like 2 months too lol, and look at where they are, and where Boston are looool 😂
Pat is just hating. Saying shit like it’s a soft era like bro lag placed top three like
That is commendable and should be given thier flowers
facts
Now I’m not saying Faze are going to lose against LAG but…they have lost to this team this year 👀
Not happening 😂
33 views in one minute bro fell off
Aches is absolutely PISSED that LAG made it to a champs tourney… his entire retirement has been riding on the fact that they have been equally as trash in the years since he got cut/(“retired” lmaoo sure he chose to step down 🤡🤡🤡) as the team was with him in 2019
He cannot handle the fact that the org that removed him from Comp COD is in champs
L Take
GET UP HAGGY, FIGHT BACK!
bro aches is so funny 😂😂😂
Ahhh, of course, fake event cause no fans. That means even if Toronto wins this event, Aches shouldn’t give them ANY credit
If Toronto doesn’t win champs, Aches needs to call them shit
Obvi LAG are ass and not a top 4 team but they've done more with less than any other team in the league and I think it deserves to be tipped. The players could have chalked it but they continued to fight and were rewarded, we don't need to celebrate but tipping our cap in recognition is fine.
Pats take on LAG faded as usual.
Pat speakimg FACTS
I ❤Lamp
Pat: I´m not hating on ANY team in the league
naaaaaaaah XD
Aches is right. Basically what he’s saying is if their mentality is “we are happy we made champs!” then they will never win anything. No team should’ve satisfied with that. If you are satisfied with that the hunger for more is gone
Aches is not right lmao. This isnt a salary cap league like American sports this is like Formula 1 or football where the best teams have the best resources and theres no balance. Pred alone cost more than two bottom 8 teams salaries + coaches combined. Expecting a team with a 200k budget to be consistently competitive with teams with 1M to 2M dollar budgets is absolutely delusional. Theres no way for them to get top players because the t4 teams will offer more money ever single time. The fact that LAG beat a top team on LAN and place t3 minimum while OpTic is t12 is insanely tippable.
Pat don’t make no sense when it comes to this LAG shit. Knit picking whether or not the coaches are getting paid still makes them a resource and clearly an improvement for the team.
Paco should win mvp if you take paco off ny they are a bottom 4 team faze is still a really good team with out simp
Without Hydra NYSL is without question a top eight team AT BEST.
Simp has been way more consistent than Hydra the whole season.
Just pull up both his stats against the Top 4. It's not even close.
And yeah, FaZe without Simp would probably be a m very solid team, but WITH him they're THE BEST. That also matters.
@@HopefulNihilist not just very solid u put a good to decent smg in his place they are still a top 3 team clearly
@@HopefulNihilist it’s also easier to be consistent when u have the best team in the world paco carries ny half the time he’s asked to do way more then simp
@@codydouglas8631
False. You just say "just replace a teams best player" for a "solid replacement" and they're nearly the same. It doesn't work like that.
Pat speaks like he retired as the best player in the game 😂 I hope ppl don’t fall for his facade…
2 time world champion
@@ChirpNation against plumbers, then got shit on for 4 years until he was forced to retire
Butthurt tilted pat is hilarious 😂
I really like zooma octane and parasite so I wish I could watch this show but Ben and pat are fucking unbearable 🤣
Aches needs to go bro.
100%
U need to go 👌
Im hoping Envoy wins another chip.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pat can’t afford a camera yet?
Sure...cool story bro 🤡 he is in the middle of moving D A
@@jonathanguest1628 Do you glaze Pat every night before you sleep?