Mfs really don’t care they just cope cope cope. And say “no fans” is why we lost, or “online cod is lame” just a million excuses from fans and the optic camp as always. Or the good ole “drop x player” even this optic has the same exact problems every single year even with new players lmao perma t4 team
@@AzBA11in1Did you just try to insult by saying perma T4 team? OpTic have been terrible this split which shows they aren't a permanent T4 team which is a compliment.
Imo kenny has gotten better. And the funny thing is he is still underwhelming now after getting better and still costing. Kenny at the beginning made me think this team was chalked beyond top 4
IM AN OPTIC FAN AND THEY SHIT THE BED THIS MAJOR. ITS A TOP 2 GAME NOW NYSL IS STILL BAD, BUT NOT WINNING MAJOR 3 THEN COMING DEAD LAST THE FOLLOWING IS NOT OKAY SEEMS LIKE NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY FOR THE WIN
1:09:06 Holy shit I’ve literally haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. Ben literally takes a lap, that’s crazy. Aches commentary is the cherry on top, telling him to put his socks on 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He needs to team with a Lynnz / Clay, Scrappy / Standy. Or a Gwinn/ Lynnz/ Scrappy Clay. Or a 04/Clay/Gwinn/Lynzz. Sib/Clay/Attach/Lynzz. Scrap/Clay/CleanX/insight. Clay/Abuzah/04/Lynzz Clay/Abuzah/04/Gwinn
OpTic fans say online cod is trash and blame “online cheese” when they lose during qualifiers, but praise shotzzy for being MVP and world champion during a season that was 90% online and 5v5. Can’t have it both ways. If online cod is trash, shotzzy’s ring shouldn’t be respected
I get AG was making stupid plays but for Kenny to air that shit out on twitter was super shitty that’s why they aren’t winning he has no respect for his teammates
Optic just lack in-game team chemistry. Its been the case since Cold War. They always have the talent, but fall short due to a lack of communication/decision making when it matters. Just watch the Process vids over the last few years and you are bound to hear some sort of BS excuse about the team not meshing
Optic definitely has zero excuses now . Lost just about every game 5s imagined. 1st to last . This also happened to subliners earlier in the year optic isn't the only top 4 team to finish last . I hate how faze don't never experienced this level of pian of losing but oh well 🤷
Sam has crazy Kenny Bias. Saying Dashy is bad when he is being made to sit on the hill and watch kenny and pred get gunned out of their socks. Ant and Brandon been the best two players the whole year and both been consistent which is the most important thing
Clay is such a staple to the cod scene. Obviously i want him to keep playing but i would understand if he wants to retire and if he does i hope he stays within the cod scene! Love the man
BRO BEN STOP CUTTING EVERYONE OFF LIKE HOLY FUCK DUDE LET EVERYONE ELSE FUCKING SPEAK LIKE GO IN FUCKING ORDER OR JUST SPEAK LAST BEN HOLY SHIT THE SHOW WORKS SO KUCH BETTER WHEN U TALK LAST
I feel bad for Optic man. This is a once in a lifetime slump. Just completely out of the blue. I’ll be the first to admit I’m an Optic fan but these are trying times currently. The boys really need to get it together quick cause champs is closing fast.
My parents and I went to champs last year, that is basically their total COD viewing experience. Beans is their favorite player and probably the only one they could name that wasn't in the grand finals. He definitely passed the eye test and has the charisma fans want to see.
Yeah obesity eye test 🤣 he just trash talks players that don't shoot back. You remember the gunless beans beaf bc beans killed a player not looking at him and he said shit on absolutely turned on 🤣
Agree with Patt. As someone who used to watch Preistahs stream everyday, he has played horrible. Also idk what Doug sees in snoopy but right now, he shouldn’t be in the league. Get some fresh faces that perform in the league.
Optic losing is unacceptable but also not suprising with current form .. either way they were going out top 8 against ultra ! i thought a no fan event would be less viewing figures but now with no OpTic it may be a record low
This Kenny gas not it he literally was god one major and that’s the major optic screamed they barley played Dashy and shotzzy Ben the only survivors the entire time pred has Ben UPPP AND DOWNNN with this LAYING DOWN SHI AND NOT MOVING idk what’s going on with this team I STILL AND FOREVER WILL SAY ghosty should’ve never Ben dropped I feel he’s a perfect fit as in play style
I’ve been waiting all season for optic to stop getting lucky !!! They have sucked all year. They went to so many game 5s this year online. They would get lucky and somehow win. Not anymore they are the worse team in the league. No one can argue that
@@michaelworkspaceyou cant call it delusional when it was a reasonable expectation. You would have been called delusional if you were trying to predict an optic losing streak after maj3, nobody saw that coming.
Floptic will be fine. Its their tradition for getting 12th place every year. They will be back the next day.... splashy back at playing val with Nade, Pred back at playing cod pub and talking sh*t and saying he's the best, Bottzy back playing Xdef and learning movement and Kenny back at making youtube video on how they choke "make same old exucses".......... LMFAO We gonna win champ #Letsgobrickbybrickfallingoff
Sitting here in my OpTic Major 3 champs shirt, listening to Ben's comment at 57:40, and about to do what Clayster told Scrap to do after Ravens' loss 😂
Dashy stays on Optic at all cost.. 19.5 K damage?? 2 mins in hill ? Wtf is kenny talking about with his 42 secs in the hill?.. Even ant had a 1:32 mins.. Its because of those 2 players they won map 4 period..
Kenny needs to go at the end of the year. It's been like this for the longest time. Kenny will play good here n there but he's usually the worst perforner on all his teams. His comms aren't making up for him losing his 1s majority of the time. If they were worried about comms they should of kept Ghosty, he has far better Gun skill than Kenny...
brother haggy had good points. i love octane but sometimes his ears are not open. haggy literally said major 3 and a lil bit in major 2 dashy and shotzy bailed them out alot. regardless of if it is true or not, why is octane saying he said for the whole year.
Yeah it's pretty annoying, Octane will often do this: give his opinion on something and say "I don't care what anyone says I don't wanna hear it" ( in the sense that he thinks he has told an absolute truth and that no other argument is valid )
Ever since Octane won a ring he thinks all his takes are end all be all. He never wants to go against Kenny because he teamed with him. But Kenny has been Mid since major 1-2, majority of the matches tbh
@@WAZOWSKI_58 The way Octane jumped on Haggy at 57:10 when Chris said that Brandon was better this stage than Shottzy kinda annoyed me because haggy was true. Shotzzy did a stellar major 3 but this major he has not been that bright, he had a bigger drop off between seasons than Dashy
I been had a feeling after first two losses of split there’s a rift between pred & Kenny jus saying today looks like that with Kenny’s tweets & way pred fell flat every time almost
pred fell off hard, i don’t even know what he does on the map. he does not play like a natural smg idk wtf he does but he is always by himself laying corners waiting for ppl to come by
Oh my god i’m only 20 minutes in and ben has to stop talking so much his little comments after anyone says anything is so ridiculous. nobody needs your validation on everything benny 🙏🏻🙏🏻 love yall boys tho ben still a goat
Haggy is right, Dashy has been the most consistent and impactful player on that team for a while now. The other 3 are constantly making horrible plays.
Agreed. Plus Bruce is on the obj almost all the time unlike shotzzy who doesn't need to worry about it so he can do whatever he wants and 'make plays'. That's why he may trick some people into thinking he's playing better but it's not as impressive as Dashy who's popping off while also being the objective player. Octane is cooked.
@@kenethernandez6246not only does shotzzy get heaps of hill time, clearly more than kenny and pred.. but why are you trying to act liking making plays is a bad thing or something? And you dont understand part of the reason dashy can vollect so much hill time is shotzzy making plays, getting info etc???
@@kenethernandez6246 plus what abput snd? Shotzzy has a higher kd, more first bloods, and hes the one doing objective work planting the bomb. Whats your excuse for that??
Well don’t worry, unlike these other “top 4 teams” Faze doesn’t play down to others levels. Yeah they get clowned for not winning, but the difference with them compared to other teams is they’re always in the mix to win and play consistent. They’ll be in grand finals because they don’t have bad habits or consistency problems
Not really.. They will play against Toronto or NY in the Finals and have no advantage... I dont understand why people say it is their event to lose just cuz the top 4 are in LB..
@@trackrun1102100% facts, they can choke against top 4 teams in loser or winners finals but they will never lose to bottom tier teams like optic nysl or toronto. they will always be the most consistent and best team. optic fail every year and toronto are always a close 2nd
Ravens played 7 total LAN matches all season. Zoomaa on a random Saturday on losers. Played 12 matches back to back on a saturday in WW2. This entire season was less matches than 1 MLG event.
It’s not snd. Obviously that’s a problem, but optic can never use good teamwork every year no matter the players, new players same problems. The entire camp needs redone
Ben wasn’t fully wrong. If the same thing happens with optic every single year no matter the team, a T4 team who can’t ever win SOMETHING needs done. How else do you explain how even with new teammates it’s the same thing every year
OCTANE is pissed that nobody is giving credit to his lil kids!! KENNY AND PRED ARE FUKN ASS!!!! They didnt carry nobody!! SHOTZZY CARRIED THIS TEAM ALL YEAR!!!!
All jokes aside, can optic just NOT make any roster changes and stick with this team for next year. Sick to death of optic making new rosters every year and not just fixing their bullshit. They have ALLL the talent now and if they change this for the hopes they can do anything better is fucking insane. Everyone loves to compare optic and faze but faze have had the same damn team for 5 fucking years and ppl wonder why they are soo consistent, you could put any damn main AR on that team and they will win an event. Just stick together and fix the issues. They need a whole new system in snd, pred needs to WORK WITH SHOTZZY to work the map, Kenny should be the island player and have pred carry bomb with dashy being overwatch. Letting this dumbass pred get blooded and make dumbass plays and restricting shottzy with bomb is possibly the worst system ever.
The Priestaah take is TILTING!Idgaf how good you are, if your team is bad overall and no one knows wtf is happening on the map, its going to affect your individual performance. When timings, positioning and call outs are all bad, theres no way you can play good in that circumstance. I also COMPLETELY disagree that if NYSL didn’t drop him he would be playing bad this year, I think he would prolly be a .9 to 1.0 player but still being impactful. Its actually bogus as fuck to speak so low about this guy and I’m not even a fan of him.
Optic needs to get rid of dashy and snag scrap. Dashy on optic has been maybe the most overrated player of all time. Aside from vanguard he’s never been that godly AR he’s hyped up to be. Every team he’s been on no matter the talent around him has been an utter failure. The dude can’t win nor has that winning mentality. Dashy also is past his prime and doesn’t have a higher upside as he’s only getting older. Unless you can get another IGL you can’t get rid of Kenny optic need comms and an IGL from him. You keep pred as he as super high upside. Unless you can get hydra then you get hydra. Can we all finally admit as much as I love dashy since he’s been on optic the team has been a let down every season. The dude can’t perform at champs and simply can’t win. They lose to crap teams too every season. Dashy bro how can you not win if you’re suppose to be one of the best ARs in the game with nothing but all stars around you. Legit they win once every couple years since dashy has joined and it’s always meaningless majors. I really hope I’m wrong and the win champs but if they don’t it’s time for dashy to go and possibly more if we can upgrade. Optic should’ve never let ghosty go. An IGL and hard carry with huge upside and he was a rookie plenty of years of cod left.
They actually just cooked Haggy for no reason this episode 😂 the point he was making about S&D was spot on. What is JP or anyone going to tell any of the Optic team to make them better at S&D 😂 they are some of the worlds best cod players haha if they can’t figure it out themselves then I don’t know what to tell you
what???????? saying shotzzy is the only one good on optic is lame from octane... dashy was literally carrying them the whole year... dashy kd went up couse everyone else cant get kills so they just run at him on the hill and die... ken never carried bruce in major 1 its couse everyone was doing ok and all he had to do is sit in the hilll if buce was having ken role as main slayer he would be droping 40's constantly
They pay haggy to come on and talk about players and coaches and have “good analysis” that’s the biggest cap ever. He just talks bad and seems jealous. Without good analysis either
ben must not know cod or the OpTic fan base whatsoever if he thinks any OpTic fan is satisfied with the level of play this current team has been performing at… obviously they’re not lol
Zero excuses for OpTic. Beyond embarrassing as fan. Team dynamic is beyond broken. 0 teamwork in any facet. 2.5 weeks to grind and see if they can recapture any sort of form.
Optic sold their soul to win... So their price for winning was getting humiliated this stage... Not the first time this has happened and prolly wont be the last.. You dont go from winning to last the next event unless rigged..
Octane loves Ken so much he can’t be objective about anything. Like bro stop topping him off he’s a huge part of the problem. And that twitter shit is lame.
Optic fan here: Kenny and Pred were designed to replace Scump, I shouldn't have to be on the edge of my seat everytime they play, not saying they should be dropped just saying its not a good look for the Scump replacements
This show would be so much better without Ben would save me from having to fast forward anytime he talks which is basically half the show he needs to know his role and work behind the camera
Fr tho as i continue to watch pls get Ben to stop talking so much. I like him but man he really just rants and adds 0 to the discussion he just always states the obvious
Ben has CTE if he thinks any OpTic fan finds it’s acceptable the way they’ve played this split.
Pats laugh when he said this was comedy 😂
Mfs really don’t care they just cope cope cope. And say “no fans” is why we lost, or “online cod is lame” just a million excuses from fans and the optic camp as always. Or the good ole “drop x player” even this optic has the same exact problems every single year even with new players lmao perma t4 team
@@AzBA11in1not really, its the optic haters that say those are the excuses and then complain to each other lol
@@AzBA11in1Did you just try to insult by saying perma T4 team? OpTic have been terrible this split which shows they aren't a permanent T4 team which is a compliment.
arent optic fans use to their team disappointing them??
Jesus Ben, let them fucking speak THEN make a counter point.
haggy main character syndrome building
I still stand with OpTic, and i know im not alone.
Hope u enjoyed major 4 & good luck for champs. Your team is looking fantastic.
Respect ✊️
@OmorFaruk-ny7vh Yup they are.
Dude what did Ben and Haggy smoke bro 😭😭
If I’m optic I’m getting illey as my SND coach
Imo kenny has gotten better. And the funny thing is he is still underwhelming now after getting better and still costing. Kenny at the beginning made me think this team was chalked beyond top 4
Kenny has been playing how he always has. He was a beast major 1 and 2 but has been very average since
IM AN OPTIC FAN AND THEY SHIT THE BED THIS MAJOR. ITS A TOP 2 GAME NOW NYSL IS STILL BAD, BUT NOT WINNING MAJOR 3 THEN COMING DEAD LAST THE FOLLOWING IS NOT OKAY SEEMS LIKE NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY FOR THE WIN
W Tom for finally telling Ben he ain’t the host 😂
Nah even after the lap Ben came back and immediately tried to start hosting again 😭
What’s the timestamp
1:09:06 Holy shit I’ve literally haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. Ben literally takes a lap, that’s crazy. Aches commentary is the cherry on top, telling him to put his socks on 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"down boy" is crazy work
"Tom just told him to take a lap and he did it that's crazy" lol I love Sam
@@DylFromTheMist and then he says don’t be drinking the ghost energy drinks either! 😂😂😂
@@bladerunnerr2624 treating him like gizmo!🤣
When Ben talks my skip button takes a BEATING
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Same with aches
"virginia ping cheese 🧀, online cheese 🧀, sound EQ cheese 🧀" lmao
Lan cheese
Rnd 11 cheese
MCW MULTIPLIER CHEESE
Propane cheese
t6 cheese
Slaya spitting like usual 🐐
Clay's gotta keep playing. He's still got it, his teams just need to get it together sooner.
He needs a whole new roster but I agree I want to see clay still play
He needs a whole new roster but I agree I want to see clay still play
He should team w Lynz and Gunless and nab another sub
He needs to team with a Lynnz / Clay, Scrappy / Standy. Or a Gwinn/ Lynnz/ Scrappy Clay. Or a 04/Clay/Gwinn/Lynzz. Sib/Clay/Attach/Lynzz. Scrap/Clay/CleanX/insight. Clay/Abuzah/04/Lynzz
Clay/Abuzah/04/Gwinn
@@NATEWRLDyou made multiple 3 ar rosters? Clay is done unfortunately
OpTic are just same old same old. There’s one problem that’s always been the same on optic teams and that’s teamwork. It’s always been the issue
optic needs jetpacks back. Only time they can win
Optic overrated asf.
They went into the major as last seed and no games won how is that over rated 😂
@@CurlSQDbecause the flank had them coming top 4. Overrated af
Severely
@@UraPhagthey also had ultra beating LAG
@@UraPhagoptic has been objectively top 3 all year. Arguably 2nd.
Pat masterclass
OpTic fans say online cod is trash and blame “online cheese” when they lose during qualifiers, but praise shotzzy for being MVP and world champion during a season that was 90% online and 5v5. Can’t have it both ways. If online cod is trash, shotzzy’s ring shouldn’t be respected
You must watch a lot of black and white movies huh
Fs
Why is the only non-professional player on the show talking more than 4 major champ/ world champs combined?
He knows just as much as them.
Him critiquing how pro players play should be a felony
I fear Floptic only perform when they have their fans at the event.
So Champs?? 😂
@@WAZOWSKI_58 if it was any team but optic maybe but they dont show up to champs they are a freebie every year lmfao
didn’t they get 2nd last year?
@@hugaue at champs? It was ultra vs NY lmfao idk what you were watching but optic didn’t show up to champs they might’ve got last place 🤣🤣
When Pat's off cam and can drink his beer.....unstoppable comedy 😂😂😂
BENJ is funniest ever this episode, zooma says take a walk after him yealling 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Im cryinng lmfao
when did that happen
@@uCMasterking1:09:00
Who knew Slayer moving to Dallas was all it would take to destroy OpTic
😂
I get AG was making stupid plays but for Kenny to air that shit out on twitter was super shitty that’s why they aren’t winning he has no respect for his teammates
Optic just lack in-game team chemistry. Its been the case since Cold War. They always have the talent, but fall short due to a lack of communication/decision making when it matters. Just watch the Process vids over the last few years and you are bound to hear some sort of BS excuse about the team not meshing
I heard Texas is big but Pats ego is bigger
I fear it will only grow now too since everything is bigger in Texas.
Two time champion, member of the CoL Dynasty, top 10 player all time, he's earned that ego. 😅
@@joey--j a staple to the call of duty community
@@kingblitzkrieg9452 amen.
Optic definitely has zero excuses now .
Lost just about every game 5s imagined.
1st to last .
This also happened to subliners earlier in the year optic isn't the only top 4 team to finish last .
I hate how faze don't never experienced this level of pian of losing but oh well 🤷
Ngl 0-12 in SND is actually disgusting. And the fact that their 6 losses in a row are against the worst teams in the CDL is a disgrace.
Faze up 🗣
FaZe Up...JUSTTT BETTERRRRR
Sam has crazy Kenny Bias. Saying Dashy is bad when he is being made to sit on the hill and watch kenny and pred get gunned out of their socks. Ant and Brandon been the best two players the whole year and both been consistent which is the most important thing
Facts Dashy was the only one who wanted to win
Octane hates optic for some reason
sam literally said kenny and pred where getting shit on all major 4 too
Clay is such a staple to the cod scene. Obviously i want him to keep playing but i would understand if he wants to retire and if he does i hope he stays within the cod scene! Love the man
BRO BEN STOP CUTTING EVERYONE OFF LIKE HOLY FUCK DUDE LET EVERYONE ELSE FUCKING SPEAK LIKE GO IN FUCKING ORDER OR JUST SPEAK LAST BEN HOLY SHIT THE SHOW WORKS SO KUCH BETTER WHEN U TALK LAST
pat cooked ben 💀 bro does filibuster and say a whole lotta nothing
I feel bad for Optic man. This is a once in a lifetime slump. Just completely out of the blue. I’ll be the first to admit I’m an Optic fan but these are trying times currently. The boys really need to get it together quick cause champs is closing fast.
Optic frauds can't win without a pool hill lmfao. First to last is crazy. Even VG LAG didn't fall off this hard.
MW2 LAT did fall off like that tho
craY
and faze cant win at all🫵
My parents and I went to champs last year, that is basically their total COD viewing experience. Beans is their favorite player and probably the only one they could name that wasn't in the grand finals. He definitely passed the eye test and has the charisma fans want to see.
A big whale
Yeah obesity eye test 🤣 he just trash talks players that don't shoot back. You remember the gunless beans beaf bc beans killed a player not looking at him and he said shit on absolutely turned on 🤣
@@JorgeReyesMD I uninstalled Twitter a while ago pretty sure I missed that “beaf“
57:34 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 aches and octane reaction to ben is hilarious
Dear OpTic Fans,
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sincerely,
WACHES fan
LMAOOOOOO the most short message that means so much that was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
Cook em jdan
@@TyreeseBiggumspreciate it biggums
damn 😅
Well 😂
Agree with Patt. As someone who used to watch Preistahs stream everyday, he has played horrible. Also idk what Doug sees in snoopy but right now, he shouldn’t be in the league. Get some fresh faces that perform in the league.
This gotta be a all timer
Oh my lord, Slaya is out to end people’s bloodlines completely this episode.
Pats laugh is contagious 😭
1:06:30 I’m crying man. Aches is hilarious
Optic losing is unacceptable but also not suprising with current form .. either way they were going out top 8 against ultra ! i thought a no fan event would be less viewing figures but now with no OpTic it may be a record low
Based on what? Toronto just lost to LAG
@@BillyJohnson-ll8eeTOR was 3-0ing optic even if they beat Miami…..
This Kenny gas not it he literally was god one major and that’s the major optic screamed they barley played Dashy and shotzzy Ben the only survivors the entire time pred has Ben UPPP AND DOWNNN with this LAYING DOWN SHI AND NOT MOVING idk what’s going on with this team I STILL AND FOREVER WILL SAY ghosty should’ve never Ben dropped I feel he’s a perfect fit as in play style
Man I love Pat haha
I’ve been waiting all season for optic to stop getting lucky !!! They have sucked all year. They went to so many game 5s this year online. They would get lucky and somehow win. Not anymore they are the worse team in the league. No one can argue that
Jeez zooma has a toxic and annoying chat lol
Ag was literally running around with his head cut off in the searches for the past month
Skinny haggy is an evil villain. Damn it I love this show
He’s skinnier then he was tip my hat to that, but he’s still considered obese.
@@432Tx it’s a joke bud. Relax.
Deleting comments LUIGUI I see you
optic loses we all win
I don’t get why people hate optic
OpTic*
@@iRevengefuLusually because of the optic fans and not necessarily optic the org
@@ChemiiAlertlmao no way you did that
Ah... the mighty "We" 🤦♂️🤣
NANANANA NANANANA HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE OPTIC
For the 1000000000 time....GET BEN OFF THE FUCKING SHOW!!!! He ruins the show
I remember people saying they were gonna do a run
Hahahaha exactly! What the fk?! Where those delusional now???
They won Major 3 taking out NYSL, Faze, and annihilated Ultra in the Grand Final. No one expected them to have this insane falloff
@@michaelworkspace it was possible
@@twofaaaace5188the real optic fans saw it coming lol
@@michaelworkspaceyou cant call it delusional when it was a reasonable expectation. You would have been called delusional if you were trying to predict an optic losing streak after maj3, nobody saw that coming.
How and why is Ben still on this show , he has to have something on Tom
Floptic will be fine. Its their tradition for getting 12th place every year. They will be back the next day.... splashy back at playing val with Nade, Pred back at playing cod pub and talking sh*t and saying he's the best, Bottzy back playing Xdef and learning movement and Kenny back at making youtube video on how they choke "make same old exucses".......... LMFAO We gonna win champ #Letsgobrickbybrickfallingoff
yep tradition to play well major 1-3 then fall off hard and crash out with horrible placements
valid
Can't wait to hear about the record low viewing numbers for this Major
Nobody cares bot
Yo this episode had me looking crazy in the airport, mad funny 😂😂
Sitting here in my OpTic Major 3 champs shirt, listening to Ben's comment at 57:40, and about to do what Clayster told Scrap to do after Ravens' loss 😂
Dashy stays on Optic at all cost.. 19.5 K damage?? 2 mins in hill ? Wtf is kenny talking about with his 42 secs in the hill?.. Even ant had a 1:32 mins.. Its because of those 2 players they won map 4 period..
Kenny needs to go at the end of the year. It's been like this for the longest time. Kenny will play good here n there but he's usually the worst perforner on all his teams. His comms aren't making up for him losing his 1s majority of the time. If they were worried about comms they should of kept Ghosty, he has far better Gun skill than Kenny...
Dashy has hill time because thats his role that he wants to play and is decided on. That's not a stat that will decide anything.
brother haggy had good points. i love octane but sometimes his ears are not open. haggy literally said major 3 and a lil bit in major 2 dashy and shotzy bailed them out alot. regardless of if it is true or not, why is octane saying he said for the whole year.
Yeah it's pretty annoying, Octane will often do this: give his opinion on something and say "I don't care what anyone says I don't wanna hear it" ( in the sense that he thinks he has told an absolute truth and that no other argument is valid )
Ever since Octane won a ring he thinks all his takes are end all be all. He never wants to go against Kenny because he teamed with him. But Kenny has been Mid since major 1-2, majority of the matches tbh
@@WAZOWSKI_58 The way Octane jumped on Haggy at 57:10 when Chris said that Brandon was better this stage than Shottzy kinda annoyed me because haggy was true. Shotzzy did a stellar major 3 but this major he has not been that bright, he had a bigger drop off between seasons than Dashy
And at this point I have the feeling that Octane just don't like haggy at all
@@AD-sg9tr yeah agreed. I love octane and he ain’t the only one who does it but in this episode he did it a lot.
" OnLiNe DoEsn'T MaTtEr BeCauSe We'Re BeTTer On LAN" 🤡🤡🤡
Who's this in reference to
Optic won champs
@@AD-sg9tr uh oh, somebody was wrong and can't admit it.
I been had a feeling after first two losses of split there’s a rift between pred & Kenny jus saying today looks like that with Kenny’s tweets & way pred fell flat every time almost
pred fell off hard, i don’t even know what he does on the map. he does not play like a natural smg idk wtf he does but he is always by himself laying corners waiting for ppl to come by
Optic lost all these matches on purpose
Optic may not have 2pac but they got Money B , might be time to get him involved
I have a feeling that pred and shottzy are having issues
Optic lost on purpose to be able to get to Seth’s wedding on time!
Ben is getting annoying bruh.
Oh my god i’m only 20 minutes in and ben has to stop talking so much his little comments after anyone says anything is so ridiculous. nobody needs your validation on everything benny 🙏🏻🙏🏻 love yall boys tho ben still a goat
Haggy is right, Dashy has been the most consistent and impactful player on that team for a while now. The other 3 are constantly making horrible plays.
Agreed. Plus Bruce is on the obj almost all the time unlike shotzzy who doesn't need to worry about it so he can do whatever he wants and 'make plays'. That's why he may trick some people into thinking he's playing better but it's not as impressive as Dashy who's popping off while also being the objective player. Octane is cooked.
@@kenethernandez6246not really, do you even watch the games?
@enterpassword3313 Yes with my eyes open and TV on. You should try doing that as well.
@@kenethernandez6246not only does shotzzy get heaps of hill time, clearly more than kenny and pred.. but why are you trying to act liking making plays is a bad thing or something? And you dont understand part of the reason dashy can vollect so much hill time is shotzzy making plays, getting info etc???
@@kenethernandez6246 plus what abput snd? Shotzzy has a higher kd, more first bloods, and hes the one doing objective work planting the bomb. Whats your excuse for that??
14 seconds and no views… ZooMaa fell off harder than OpTic
corny ash
Im just hoping FaZe doesnt choke. This tournament has handed them the perfect opportunity to win now, no excuses.
Well don’t worry, unlike these other “top 4 teams” Faze doesn’t play down to others levels. Yeah they get clowned for not winning, but the difference with them compared to other teams is they’re always in the mix to win and play consistent. They’ll be in grand finals because they don’t have bad habits or consistency problems
Not really.. They will play against Toronto or NY in the Finals and have no advantage... I dont understand why people say it is their event to lose just cuz the top 4 are in LB..
@@BillyJohnson-ll8ee i understand what you're saying and I agree. I'm just saying that their path to GF is much easier than the others in T4.
@@trackrun1102100% facts, they can choke against top 4 teams in loser or winners finals but they will never lose to bottom tier teams like optic nysl or toronto. they will always be the most consistent and best team. optic fail every year and toronto are always a close 2nd
Scrap is the Randy orton of cod, he’s the legend killer.
Ravens played 7 total LAN matches all season.
Zoomaa on a random Saturday on losers. Played 12 matches back to back on a saturday in WW2.
This entire season was less matches than 1 MLG event.
Good episode boys could’ve gave Miami Heretics more gas tho, barely talked about them but good episode
agreed but let’s be real the main topic optic going out top 12 after winning major 3, but ggs to miami
Those optic pretty boys probably haven’t played pit style cod in some time…. The no fan buff definitely hits the content Texas team hard!
Just get Ben off the flank, he literally brings it down, everyone else lifts it up.
It’s not snd. Obviously that’s a problem, but optic can never use good teamwork every year no matter the players, new players same problems. The entire camp needs redone
Ben wasn’t fully wrong. If the same thing happens with optic every single year no matter the team, a T4 team who can’t ever win SOMETHING needs done. How else do you explain how even with new teammates it’s the same thing every year
1:01:44 aches, feel like im watching last night's presidency debate again 😅😅😅😅
As an OpTic fan I’m used to this BS.
Another good flank. Makes me Wonder if optic ever were to have scump plus zooma were they might be
All the top teams except faze came out and talked shit about the “bottom 8”. Now they’ve caught up.
LMFAO what has Haggy been taking at his EDM gigs? Like it has to be some underground new shit 😂
he’s off the shit, also don’t think he’s been watching matches like that
OCTANE is pissed that nobody is giving credit to his lil kids!! KENNY AND PRED ARE FUKN ASS!!!!
They didnt carry nobody!! SHOTZZY CARRIED THIS TEAM ALL YEAR!!!!
All jokes aside, can optic just NOT make any roster changes and stick with this team for next year. Sick to death of optic making new rosters every year and not just fixing their bullshit. They have ALLL the talent now and if they change this for the hopes they can do anything better is fucking insane. Everyone loves to compare optic and faze but faze have had the same damn team for 5 fucking years and ppl wonder why they are soo consistent, you could put any damn main AR on that team and they will win an event. Just stick together and fix the issues. They need a whole new system in snd, pred needs to WORK WITH SHOTZZY to work the map, Kenny should be the island player and have pred carry bomb with dashy being overwatch. Letting this dumbass pred get blooded and make dumbass plays and restricting shottzy with bomb is possibly the worst system ever.
The Priestaah take is TILTING!Idgaf how good you are, if your team is bad overall and no one knows wtf is happening on the map, its going to affect your individual performance. When timings, positioning and call outs are all bad, theres no way you can play good in that circumstance. I also COMPLETELY disagree that if NYSL didn’t drop him he would be playing bad this year, I think he would prolly be a .9 to 1.0 player but still being impactful. Its actually bogus as fuck to speak so low about this guy and I’m not even a fan of him.
Optic needs to get rid of dashy and snag scrap. Dashy on optic has been maybe the most overrated player of all time. Aside from vanguard he’s never been that godly AR he’s hyped up to be. Every team he’s been on no matter the talent around him has been an utter failure. The dude can’t win nor has that winning mentality. Dashy also is past his prime and doesn’t have a higher upside as he’s only getting older. Unless you can get another IGL you can’t get rid of Kenny optic need comms and an IGL from him. You keep pred as he as super high upside. Unless you can get hydra then you get hydra. Can we all finally admit as much as I love dashy since he’s been on optic the team has been a let down every season. The dude can’t perform at champs and simply can’t win. They lose to crap teams too every season. Dashy bro how can you not win if you’re suppose to be one of the best ARs in the game with nothing but all stars around you. Legit they win once every couple years since dashy has joined and it’s always meaningless majors. I really hope I’m wrong and the win champs but if they don’t it’s time for dashy to go and possibly more if we can upgrade. Optic should’ve never let ghosty go. An IGL and hard carry with huge upside and he was a rookie plenty of years of cod left.
They actually just cooked Haggy for no reason this episode 😂 the point he was making about S&D was spot on. What is JP or anyone going to tell any of the Optic team to make them better at S&D 😂 they are some of the worlds best cod players haha if they can’t figure it out themselves then I don’t know what to tell you
what???????? saying shotzzy is the only one good on optic is lame from octane... dashy was literally carrying them the whole year... dashy kd went up couse everyone else cant get kills so they just run at him on the hill and die... ken never carried bruce in major 1 its couse everyone was doing ok and all he had to do is sit in the hilll if buce was having ken role as main slayer he would be droping 40's constantly
They pay haggy to come on and talk about players and coaches and have “good analysis” that’s the biggest cap ever. He just talks bad and seems jealous. Without good analysis either
ben must not know cod or the OpTic fan base whatsoever if he thinks any OpTic fan is satisfied with the level of play this current team has been performing at… obviously they’re not lol
Zero excuses for OpTic. Beyond embarrassing as fan. Team dynamic is beyond broken. 0 teamwork in any facet. 2.5 weeks to grind and see if they can recapture any sort of form.
Optic sold their soul to win... So their price for winning was getting humiliated this stage... Not the first time this has happened and prolly wont be the last.. You dont go from winning to last the next event unless rigged..
Octane loves Ken so much he can’t be objective about anything. Like bro stop topping him off he’s a huge part of the problem. And that twitter shit is lame.
Optic fan here: Kenny and Pred were designed to replace Scump, I shouldn't have to be on the edge of my seat everytime they play, not saying they should be dropped just saying its not a good look for the Scump replacements
Love all the players but we need Hydra 🤲🏼
This show would be so much better without Ben would save me from having to fast forward anytime he talks which is basically half the show he needs to know his role and work behind the camera
Fr tho as i continue to watch pls get Ben to stop talking so much. I like him but man he really just rants and adds 0 to the discussion he just always states the obvious
1:06:50 damn Jp with the stray, that’s ridiculous JP knows what the fuck he’s doing. He’s a very smart guy
Scump coming out of retirement
Getting worked up about someone saying someone has been great over good is ridiculous!
Octane needs to listen to everything said
When dashy does "bad" hes not staeting a map 0/7. Shotzzy has explosive games but dashy is consistently less bad and more reliable.