Thank you for a simple easy to understand video. I have to install one just like this today that a guy bought used from an auction with no manual or paperwork. You probably saved me hours of frustration. Thanks a million! !!!
I do NOT recommend using used torsion springs (EVER). When determining the correct torsion spring(s) that should be installed on a sectional door, there are several factors that should be considered: 1) the total closed door weight, 2) the door height, 3) type of cable drum and 4) type of door track lift. A trained professional (or a door manufacturer like www.amarr.com) can calculate and advise on the correct springs that should be installed on a sectional door. A few important points: At a minimum new torsion springs should last 10,000 cycles (that is up & down 10,000 times). This is a DASMA industry standard (i.e. all N. American Mfg are members of DASMA - allows the industry to set important consumer safety standards). Clearly, the life of a spring or set of springs will vary depending on the number of times the door cycles per day. The reason I caution against using "used" springs is because you cannot measure the remaining force (IPPT) of the springs. Thus, you do not know if the spring(s) will have enough force to properly balance the door or how long the springs will last. Formula for Calculating Torsion Springs: Total Door Weight X Drum Multiplier = In-Pounds per Turn (or IPPT) * the cable drum multiplier is varies based on the door height and type of cable drum Lets assume you have a door that requires a total IPPT of 50 and a door height of 7' tall. This means, the installer can use 1 spring that has an IPPT of 50 or 2 springs that have an IPPT of 25 = a total IPPT of 50, 3 springs, etc.... Over time, the IPPT or strength of each spring diminishes. Thus, eventually a spring will break over time. If you use a "used" spring - it is a matter of time before the spring or springs will break. When I train installers on the importance of using the correct torsion springs, I explain "its almost as if a mechanic tells you - you are going to need a new set of front brake pads and you reply by telling the mechanic - only change the front left today, the other side still works. NOT recommended at all. The easiest way to confirm if you door has the correct springs is to disconnect the garage door opener arm and manually open the door 1' or 2' off the ground. If the door stays in that position, the door is most likely properly balanced. If the door jumps off the floor or is heavy = you have the wrong springs. Good luck!
Sorry - I don't understand your question. To see why vise grips are used, start the video at 3:10. Helps maintain tension on your torsion cables while winding the spring(s).
@@khaledkhaled6181 i'm sorry but i do not understand your question. The springs provided by the garage door manufacturer should balance the door. The manufacturer can advise you the # of turns to put on each torsion springs.
WARNING. Instructive video, but be careful. Because this was the same single spring torsion kit that came with my door, I used the video for the installation and left the manual on the floor. You can see from this video that he puts the torsion spring on the left side of the center brace bracket (from inside of garage). Mine should have gone on the right side. When tightening, I ended up popping out one of the coils and had to buy another spring. My advice: Use the video, but check your manual too.
Another Tip - If you have 1 torsion spring, observe the direction that the spring wire near the spring cone that you are winding. That wire should ALWAYS be facing upwards towards the ceiling, which means once you affix the stationary cone to the bearing plate, you should be winding the springs in an upward direction.
Amarr's Classica door model includes 15" radius standard. Other radius tracks are available upon request. Most residential doors in the US have 12" radius track, which is common when your door panels are 21" or 18" tall.
The winding device is only included with DIY retail door sales. If you did not receive a copy of the winding device instructions, please request a copy by emailing: ASCTechSupport.amarr.us@entrematic.com
You really covered everything here, even weatherstripping. Nice job
Thank you for a simple easy to understand video. I have to install one just like this today that a guy bought used from an auction with no manual or paperwork. You probably saved me hours of frustration. Thanks a million! !!!
I do NOT recommend using used torsion springs (EVER). When determining the correct torsion spring(s) that should be installed on a sectional door, there are several factors that should be considered: 1) the total closed door weight, 2) the door height, 3) type of cable drum and 4) type of door track lift. A trained professional (or a door manufacturer like www.amarr.com) can calculate and advise on the correct springs that should be installed on a sectional door.
A few important points: At a minimum new torsion springs should last 10,000 cycles (that is up & down 10,000 times). This is a DASMA industry standard (i.e. all N. American Mfg are members of DASMA - allows the industry to set important consumer safety standards). Clearly, the life of a spring or set of springs will vary depending on the number of times the door cycles per day. The reason I caution against using "used" springs is because you cannot measure the remaining force (IPPT) of the springs. Thus, you do not know if the spring(s) will have enough force to properly balance the door or how long the springs will last.
Formula for Calculating Torsion Springs:
Total Door Weight X Drum Multiplier = In-Pounds per Turn (or IPPT)
* the cable drum multiplier is varies based on the door height and type of cable drum
Lets assume you have a door that requires a total IPPT of 50 and a door height of 7' tall. This means, the installer can use 1 spring that has an IPPT of 50 or 2 springs that have an IPPT of 25 = a total IPPT of 50, 3 springs, etc.... Over time, the IPPT or strength of each spring diminishes. Thus, eventually a spring will break over time. If you use a "used" spring - it is a matter of time before the spring or springs will break. When I train installers on the importance of using the correct torsion springs, I explain "its almost as if a mechanic tells you - you are going to need a new set of front brake pads and you reply by telling the mechanic - only change the front left today, the other side still works. NOT recommended at all.
The easiest way to confirm if you door has the correct springs is to disconnect the garage door opener arm and manually open the door 1' or 2' off the ground. If the door stays in that position, the door is most likely properly balanced. If the door jumps off the floor or is heavy = you have the wrong springs.
Good luck!
Great instruction
Fantastic video. Do you have a link for this kit please.
If you're doing this at home as a dyi. Please stand to the side of the spring while turning. I do this for a living. Be safe.
Nice work ............... I have a question / What do the plunger pliers?
Sorry - I don't understand your question. To see why vise grips are used, start the video at 3:10. Helps maintain tension on your torsion cables while winding the spring(s).
How do I know that the spring sang?
@@khaledkhaled6181 i'm sorry but i do not understand your question. The springs provided by the garage door manufacturer should balance the door. The manufacturer can advise you the # of turns to put on each torsion springs.
I need help with a toyhauler ramp door tension spring
Sorry - I am unfamiliar with toyhauler ramp doors.
WARNING. Instructive video, but be careful. Because this was the same single spring torsion kit that came with my door, I used the video for the installation and left the manual on the floor. You can see from this video that he puts the torsion spring on the left side of the center brace bracket (from inside of garage). Mine should have gone on the right side. When tightening,
I ended up popping out one of the coils and had to buy another spring. My advice: Use the video, but check your manual too.
Another Tip - If you have 1 torsion spring, observe the direction that the spring wire near the spring cone that you are winding. That wire should ALWAYS be facing upwards towards the ceiling, which means once you affix the stationary cone to the bearing plate, you should be winding the springs in an upward direction.
install video where they install the bearing plate on 15 radius track as if it was 12 inch radius track thanks a whole hell of a lot Amarr.
? Im not with amar but install them everyday, dont really understand your question
+William Minton wasn't a question. the guy in the video installs the end bearing plates wrong. sorry you have to install that cheap crap.
lol, pays the bills, anything other then wayne dawton and im happy
+William Minton Wayne Dalton is only good when I get to take them down or lnstall spring conversions. the conversions are a money maker.
i agree, i wont even take a idrive down unless they agree to spring conversion, lol
@Shawn Young Classica always gets a 15 radius track because the panels are wide did you get a 12 radius by chance?
Amarr's Classica door model includes 15" radius standard. Other radius tracks are available upon request.
Most residential doors in the US have 12" radius track, which is common when your door panels are 21" or 18" tall.
Mine came with a winder device not covered in this video. And I got no instructions
The winding device is only included with DIY retail door sales. If you did not receive a copy of the winding device instructions, please request a copy by emailing: ASCTechSupport.amarr.us@entrematic.com
@@DavidReedAmarr it would be really useful if you could make an updated video to reflect the S3 winder the factory is shipping with their products.
He has a hat hat on for no reason