Muscle vs Turbo: The New Volkswagen Golf R Takes on the New Mustang in a Drag Race!

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  • Опубліковано 19 кві 2024
  • ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! The Volkswagen Golf R is the hottest and most capable Golf you can buy, but for the same money you can get a 480-horsepower Ford Mustang GT with a rip-snorting V8 engine. But how much quicker is one over the other? Kase takes each car to the track (and a ringer) to find out!
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  • @ericmorris2831
    @ericmorris2831 2 місяці тому +663

    Manual golf VS automatic mustang isn't exactly a fair fight

    • @Marbind
      @Marbind 2 місяці тому +38

      V8 vs 4Cyl
      High 400hp vs Low 300hp

    • @chrism869
      @chrism869 2 місяці тому +59

      Yeah fr they need the dsg one

    • @tapout954
      @tapout954 2 місяці тому +62

      Both manual or both dct would've been fair.

    • @woocoheed
      @woocoheed 2 місяці тому +4

      It’s realistic though. Manual take rate for golf R is decently high

    • @bobuncle8704
      @bobuncle8704 2 місяці тому +24

      As stated in the video, both cars are essentially the same price, so looking at value. As well, both manufacturers claim an equivalent 0 to 60 time, so should be relatively equal in that department. They did point out most of the inequalities, so they’re quite up front about all that.

  • @Seventh7Art
    @Seventh7Art 2 місяці тому +311

    DSG makes a huge difference compared to the manual gearbox...

    • @tombentley6329
      @tombentley6329 2 місяці тому +49

      The fact a manual was used over a Auto DSG made me sick. This video is a no from me.

    • @edwpolanco
      @edwpolanco 2 місяці тому +3

      Does the dsg variant come with more hp? If not, the result would've been the same.

    • @DynamicAttraction
      @DynamicAttraction 2 місяці тому +6

      @@edwpolanco yes it does and it shifts faster then a human Google the golf r manual vs dsg stats

    • @amaldev4150
      @amaldev4150 2 місяці тому

      @@tombentley6329 What about 30mph race?

    • @andrezirkler9062
      @andrezirkler9062 2 місяці тому +8

      Wrong - just take a look at the diff in performance (as documented by Car&Driver): "2022 Golf R with the seven-speed automatic transmission hit 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds; with the six-speed manual, the Golf R needed 4.9"

  • @morgandrives
    @morgandrives 2 місяці тому +107

    No one buys a Mustang for interior quality, space, or interior details. It is the engine. Still miss mine.

    • @kazigen911
      @kazigen911 Місяць тому +1

      What happened to it bro

    • @decimator5494
      @decimator5494 Місяць тому +2

      You cant compare a base Mustang interior against the top of the line interior of another manufacturer. If you at least got the premium high option has 5 interior color choices. The base has just 2, all black which you have and black/grey.

    • @Mr0sito
      @Mr0sito Місяць тому +1

      Yes you can bro they cost the same😂 once you add options to a GT they can get up to 65k. You can get M2 for that.@decimator5494

    • @HD_Kerino
      @HD_Kerino Місяць тому

      @@Mr0sitoyup, hope they have fun in their fast rental car😢

    • @sd3564
      @sd3564 14 днів тому

      @@HD_KerinoI’d take the mustang any day over any bmw

  • @muskcoder6367
    @muskcoder6367 2 місяці тому +44

    The DSG in the VW 'R' would have been a better choice.

  • @Rskitalll
    @Rskitalll 2 місяці тому +180

    For the money the Mustang is hard to beat. The V8 sound is unmistakable

    • @omardevonlittle3817
      @omardevonlittle3817 2 місяці тому +3

      its actually insanely easy to beat... like buy a clapped out model 3 for 15k.... leave it in the dust.

    • @fullspeedfordbronco
      @fullspeedfordbronco 2 місяці тому

      @@omardevonlittle3817M3P for 15K? Where?

    • @Rskitalll
      @Rskitalll 2 місяці тому +19

      That model 3 will last a month before you need to put more money in to it

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 2 місяці тому +10

      @@omardevonlittle3817 lolololl not all of us are teenagers

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 2 місяці тому

      Same thing are saying people in Germany about the price of VW.

  • @john-martin
    @john-martin 2 місяці тому +200

    The mustang has 100hp more and a 10 spd auto transmission. Would have been better if the VW had a DSG trans.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 2 місяці тому +4

      I agree the dsg would have been better for comparison, but the manual is more fun and has just as good of a time as the dsg, not TOO much of a difference. Sometimes (extremely rare) the manual might actually get a better time off rip. Either way the Volks had it's advantages too.

    • @charlienevergold3654
      @charlienevergold3654 2 місяці тому +14

      @@leofhr2966type R DSG O-60 is 4.2 manual is close to 5. No way a manual could ever beat a DSG. Thats why Porsche won’t put a manual is some RS models. The all important lap times were pitiful while testing is manual.

    • @layne4376
      @layne4376 2 місяці тому +19

      @@leofhr2966 Absolutely not. The DSG does the quarter in 12.4 at 111 mph. The manual is almost a second slower at 104 mph. Not only does the DSG produce more torque, but that transmission never drops boost.

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 2 місяці тому +4

      Is actually 141hp more.

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 2 місяці тому +13

      @@layne4376 Manuals are fun but they are slow, this is not the 90s.

  • @philjenkins2320
    @philjenkins2320 Місяць тому +22

    The slow mo launch with the Mustang was just beautiful.

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta 2 місяці тому +57

    $46k for a golf. Never thought i would see that.

    • @orlandosantiago6398
      @orlandosantiago6398 Місяць тому +21

      imagine paying $63k for a mid size Toyota pickup truck lol

    • @goochigoochs3836
      @goochigoochs3836 Місяць тому +2

      Right!?! I still remember our family got a Mustang Saleen S281 convertible for less than $30K twenty years ago. But in fairness, with all the safety technologies and driving aids, I think the price increase is justified in the sense that you are safer with more relaxing driving experience.

    • @BakerGermany
      @BakerGermany Місяць тому +2

      Imagine that we pay that for a standard golf in Europe. The golf R is about 70 k

    • @davelospinoso9022
      @davelospinoso9022 Місяць тому +1

      Just paid 50k for an Acura Integra lol when i was 17, corvettes were 50k

    • @technopong
      @technopong Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, I wouldn't be shelling out for that.

  • @carloscanales6533
    @carloscanales6533 2 місяці тому +30

    I didn't buy a mustang thinking someone was going to sit in the back ! Buy your own!

    • @tripsixx5802
      @tripsixx5802 Місяць тому

      I’ve had 5 over the years and the back seat generally gets stripped out right before a/c 😂

  • @tizodd6
    @tizodd6 2 місяці тому +34

    @5:30 It looks like FORD just glued a couple of tablets onto the Mustang dash😂

  • @JVette01
    @JVette01 2 місяці тому +12

    Next race: Camaro ZL1 10 speed vs Mustang EcoBoost with a manual!

    • @x1boomer
      @x1boomer Місяць тому

      camaro is 💀

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      Not a fair raxe 😂 both auto

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      🤣 the ZL1 auto v8 sucks it does 14.7

  • @davidwatson4723
    @davidwatson4723 2 місяці тому +9

    What amazes me is 46000 for a GOLF!!!

    • @tedjones403
      @tedjones403 Місяць тому +1

      Still below the average price for a vehicle in 2024 - I cannot believe what pick-ups sell for - talk about a rip off!

    • @grizzzlyadamz
      @grizzzlyadamz Місяць тому

      What’s crazy here where I live in East Tennessee. That mustang 41k and the golf r 48k.

    • @Niedersach3e
      @Niedersach3e 14 днів тому +1

      I mean its a good car you should always Pick the dsg trans

  • @zeitgeist888
    @zeitgeist888 2 місяці тому +10

    Wow you have to do a better comparison. First get a better driver for the Golf R if you are going to put a manual against the 10 speed auto Mustang. 16's is atrocious unless you are running in the stratosphere. That is just bad driving. Second comparing a 6 sp manual to 10 speed auto is too huge a difference for any kind of fair comparison. Compare auto to DSG and manual to manual and you will see much closer races.

    • @jasonhabedank7122
      @jasonhabedank7122 2 місяці тому

      The driver didn't account for 3 seconds.

    • @zeitgeist888
      @zeitgeist888 2 місяці тому +2

      @@jasonhabedank7122 Closer to 4 seconds. Golf Rs run mid to high 12s anywhere near sea level. Even at altitude it should run way quicker than 16seconds with even a fair driver who knows how to launch and shift.

  • @garyjinks7482
    @garyjinks7482 2 місяці тому +43

    Auto against 6 speed, where is the DSG not a fair race.

    • @genderlessyoutubefanperson
      @genderlessyoutubefanperson 2 місяці тому +2

      With the DSG it would not be a fair race. :)

    • @carpentierjohn7
      @carpentierjohn7 2 місяці тому

      boo hoo

    • @jeffkotanko8784
      @jeffkotanko8784 Місяць тому +1

      The manual mustang is faster than the 10 speed auto

    • @bryanfisher9087
      @bryanfisher9087 Місяць тому +1

      No dsg no launch mode vs auto trans with drag mode? Not sure what what they were going for here?

    • @grizzzlyadamz
      @grizzzlyadamz Місяць тому

      @@bryanfisher9087 basically performance cars at same price. That mustang actually $41,000 where I’m at. The golf r $46,000 with manual $48,000 dsg. To me that leaves the owner with 5,000-7,000 dollars to make it quicker and your own

  • @S650Jesse
    @S650Jesse Місяць тому +4

    5:25 I'd just like to mention, judging a base model 300A package on interior quality isn't too fair. The GT Premiums with the 401A package feel CONSIDERABLY better. Soft touch pho-leather completely covers the drivetrain tunnel, your dash, door cards. There's accented stitching on every surface, the seats are leather, etc. Sitting in the two of them is night and day .

    • @YournameHere-ye6ht
      @YournameHere-ye6ht Місяць тому +2

      Very true. And I optioned mine Atlas Blue with the Carmine Red interior....fire!

  • @mboiko
    @mboiko 2 місяці тому +70

    What's really crazy is that $46K is now considered a "lower" cost car. Compare Consumer Price Inflation/Index before Jan 2020 to today. They are two different worlds. Maybe we should send another $100B to Ukraine and I say this as someone who happens to be 50% Ukranian.
    Great job guys...!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 місяці тому +1

      Not quite. But it is approaching the 50k average car cost.

    • @edbowejr6130
      @edbowejr6130 2 місяці тому +4

      And people don’t see the inflation or think the economy is doing well

    • @TheWolfMatt
      @TheWolfMatt Місяць тому +4

      @@edbowejr6130 That's the crazy part. You can't even get a basic Honda Civic for less than 30k these days whereas, only a couple years ago, would have been in the high teens.

    • @mboiko
      @mboiko Місяць тому +2

      @@TheWolfMatt Yes, but that was in the "Old Days"...a whole 36-48+ Months Ago. Within the time of a lease agreement.
      You want to really be scared...the US National Debt is increasing now at a rate of $1 TRILLION every 100 days!

    • @deejay2793
      @deejay2793 Місяць тому +3

      Jeez I remember the good old days when you could get a new 5.0 gt for 23k 😂

  • @dwarnke72
    @dwarnke72 2 місяці тому +29

    My bone stock dsg Golf R ran 12.6 @ 108 down here in Phoenix which never gets good air and is at 1700’. How does it lose 4 freaking seconds going to Colorado?

    • @AlejandroZavalaRichards
      @AlejandroZavalaRichards 2 місяці тому +2

      Pretty sure they ran it with traction control on, it kills the manual Golf R

    • @joes3689
      @joes3689 2 місяці тому +1

      Most tests show Golf R's DSG's running the 1/4 mile without mods in the 12's and manuals in the 13's even if you take away one second for the altitude a manual should run right around the 14's.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 2 місяці тому +6

      Mine ran 12.5 @ 110.39 here in Vegas... it doesn't lose 4 seconds. It's a combo between manual trans and bad driver.

    • @genderlessyoutubefanperson
      @genderlessyoutubefanperson 2 місяці тому +2

      @@JVette01 Yea, man...tell them, expose this BS video. :)

    • @dwarnke72
      @dwarnke72 2 місяці тому

      @@JVette01 when are you taking your car back with the stage 1 tune?

  • @legionmartin
    @legionmartin 2 місяці тому +5

    When I was younger, build quality was not a major concern or care of mine. As I get older, a balance of build quality and performance is something I consider more seriously.

  • @tomfromeyer6230
    @tomfromeyer6230 2 місяці тому +7

    The 24 mustang is sharp! Looks great and drives great 💪🏻

  • @gregc9220
    @gregc9220 2 місяці тому +18

    Man y'all making me want to buy another mustang 😅

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 2 місяці тому +13

    Love the slo-mo at launch!

  • @Maestrodamus
    @Maestrodamus 2 місяці тому +3

    The slow motion of the Mustang off the line was incredible!

  • @OmarRodriguez-ky3nu
    @OmarRodriguez-ky3nu 2 місяці тому +6

    Yeah why not do both manual or both auto.. makes no sense

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому +1

      agree not a fair race they make it sound like the mustang is fastest. Bro if they bring the auto golf r the mustang would loose by 1 second. Also they brought mercedez auto wich is great but also not a fair race bc its the worst germain car out of audi volkswagen and bmw. I dont know it looks like they purposly did that to make look like mustang is fast 😂

  • @rockstertx
    @rockstertx 2 місяці тому +12

    The 5.0 with a six speed manual gear box is the way to go... fun to drive, fun to wake up the neighbors and reliable all day long... hell it even gets decent mileage.

    • @Drako_1975
      @Drako_1975 2 місяці тому +4

      You must like being the slow one! Smh

    • @chm2
      @chm2 2 місяці тому +6

      Why would I want to wake up the neighbors? Because I am a jerk?

    • @timmy-wj2hc
      @timmy-wj2hc 2 місяці тому +4

      The kid who likes to annoy his neighbors.

    • @deanhawk7260
      @deanhawk7260 2 місяці тому +3

      Oh yeah I have a 6 speed manual and it’s a kick. 1st and 2nd pull like a freight train. Just a few bolt ons and a race tune, and this car is a monster. Auto is nice in traffic and for drag racing but that’s the only advantage IMHO.

    • @anthonye3680
      @anthonye3680 2 місяці тому

      Americans don't know how to drive a manual transmission.. every year less and less Americans buy stick .. the wussyfication of the USA is strong. Change the W to a P.

  • @ezekielochieng8941
    @ezekielochieng8941 2 місяці тому +7

    We need the 7-speed DSG dual clutch Golf R.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 місяці тому +1

      Of course. The manual is limited by the ability of the driver.

  • @Travisj9935
    @Travisj9935 2 місяці тому +20

    Omg give the golf R a dsg and make it fair... The Dsg is amazing!
    Omg that guy can't drive a manual!

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 2 місяці тому +3

      The guy was awful at manual. Yes, the DSG is a worlds difference.

    • @saigoneze4465
      @saigoneze4465 Місяць тому

      He's 96 what would you expect lmao

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      ​@@saigoneze4465In a manual your trap always same its his 60 foot must be in the 3. My friend first try was also 16@97mph but after 5 tries he did 13.8@97mph but his 60 foot is 2.0. Even your great in a manual your going to loose half a second its not a fair race 😂 .

  • @SubBro22
    @SubBro22 2 місяці тому +5

    Loved that Slow-mo at the beginning of the drag race😍

  • @f3nixfire
    @f3nixfire 29 днів тому +1

    When it comes to value youre not gonna beat the mustang. You can buy a 5.0 for $49,995 with a supercharger installed developing 810 hp and a full factory warranty! Pretty awesome.

  • @WaveManMike
    @WaveManMike 2 місяці тому +3

    Can we get a redo with the DSG Golf R? It would be good to see the difference. I know everyone else is complaining but it’s fair to say it’ll be a successful video after all 😂

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 2 місяці тому

      They probably just run what's available to them. Anyone with a brain would've brought the DSG if they're trying to race a car with 171 more horsepower.

  • @bengilrane
    @bengilrane 2 місяці тому +17

    16 SECOND QUARTER MILE IN A GOLF R U MUST BE JOKING, they normally run low 13 😳

    • @thatfordguy2268
      @thatfordguy2268 2 місяці тому +4

      They're a mile above sea level.
      Air is thinner and It vastly affects performance.
      They have said this over and over, try listening sometime.😏

    • @ContentinMesa
      @ContentinMesa 2 місяці тому +4

      @@thatfordguy2268 3 seconds seems excessive.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 2 місяці тому +2

      ​ @ContentinMesa poor track with barely any grip, poor air (turbo charged barely hets affected), poor overall run, 3 seconds is not shocking chief

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast 2 місяці тому +1

      Clearly have no idea what you’re watching.

    • @joshjohannsen106
      @joshjohannsen106 2 місяці тому

      Turbocharged cars are not affected by altitude the way a NA car is. A NA car loses 3% hp per 1000' elevation a turbo is less then 1%

  • @joshc606
    @joshc606 2 місяці тому +2

    Let’s remember commenters, the Mustang is on All Seasons and the Golf is on Pilot Sport tires. Get a driver with a redline clutch drop and it would have done better but would still lose in the end.

  • @hernanhernandez3861
    @hernanhernandez3861 Місяць тому +1

    The Coyote engine is legend. Then can get a 50-state legal, 750 hp Roush supercharger kit for only $8.5k...

  • @stockey
    @stockey 2 місяці тому +3

    Nothing beats a V8 for the fun to drive.

  • @orlandonoche
    @orlandonoche 2 місяці тому +5

    you lost me as soon as you guy showed the vw with the manual transmission (REALLY?) , with a DSG the vw should be able to at least make this video interesting to watch , race the two cars with the same transmission (auto or manual) , is that so difficult???

    • @grantdavis6011
      @grantdavis6011 2 місяці тому

      Yes, actually it is.

    • @orlandonoche
      @orlandonoche 2 місяці тому

      @@grantdavis6011yes off course;😮there are just hundreds of mustangs out there with a manual transmission; getting one is such a “difficult task “ to accomplish right? ufff😅 , got it.

  • @gearjuice
    @gearjuice Місяць тому +1

    I currently own a 2014 mustang 5.0, so I'm not being biased when I say this but ford could have done a better job with that interior. Last week I sat in a dark horse and I was disappointed in the interior for a 65k-70k car. Honestly I prefer the interior of the 2018-2023 mustangs with the digital cluster gauge. Might trade mine in for one of those lol

  • @scottmurray3490
    @scottmurray3490 Місяць тому +1

    This is an apples to oranges comparo with nothing unsuspecting to offer. The point?
    Having owned a 2010 V-8 Camaro & Jeep SRT: both absolute beasts - I can say I love my 2024 Golf R manual (soon to be modified to Stage 1) much more. So very immersive an experience and with a short throw shifter & AWE exhaust upgrades- this will be more bang for the book than should be allowed. Oh & it's the best daily driver on the road...

  • @joshuaenyart5570
    @joshuaenyart5570 2 місяці тому +3

    I would be happy having any of these cars cuz they are all a bit of fun and also functional

  • @erniefigueroa20
    @erniefigueroa20 Місяць тому +3

    Next time, put a better driver in the Golf R. That car is much faster than that…

  • @lightsout6552
    @lightsout6552 2 місяці тому +5

    Doesn't the guy driving the Mercedes know how to brake boost?

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 2 місяці тому

      He clearly doesn't

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      Actualy he did great its a mercedes thats how it is, there not great in performance. They did great to bring another auto but still not a fair race. In fact in germany they buy audi volkswagen bmw porsche lambo. Alot of german avoid mercedes bc they know its not great in performance its actualy more for class and daily drive.

  • @mattigower1479
    @mattigower1479 2 місяці тому +3

    Any car buyers looking for a new car probably wont line up a VW Golf, a Benz and a Mustang as a choice. These cars are targeted at different markets. Gotta luv the v8 though. There is no replacement for displacement, no substitute for cubic inches. Sadly, Mustang is the last v8 left in the market now, its all there is, and its days are almost certainly numbered, for now at least. Mustang is a much simpler car technically, service and repair costs will be much higher with the German cars, they are technically more complicated.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 2 місяці тому

      Well - if parents stop sending their kids to activism camps - I mean - Public school - then we can go back to an economy that is based on reality - not “muh emotionz dude bruh”
      Fathers in homes and home school = will help save the world from the beta males that are working to destroy it

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 2 місяці тому +6

    Mustang 💪

  • @PaddyBoy644
    @PaddyBoy644 2 місяці тому +41

    Everyone complaining about the comparison between two very different cars needs to understand a company life TFL does’t have a budget of Top Gear so they need to make content with what they have.
    I’m sure they’d love to have a DSG Golf but they might not have had the option.
    Great video as always guys I really enjoy your content.
    Cheers Pat🇦🇺

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks 2 місяці тому +4

      While I agree with your premise, I'm a bit disappointed in the way this comparison is presented. There needs to be some sort of purpose. Something they're trying to prove about the differences between them. All they seem to be doing is say: "The Mustang is a better car for going fast." Which is kind of a no-brainer.

    • @Empok_Nor
      @Empok_Nor 2 місяці тому +4

      They have no budget?? But yet they use a Mercedes Benz 😂

    • @PaddyBoy644
      @PaddyBoy644 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Empok_Nor you might want to go read that comment again bud, I said they don’t have a budget of Top Gear who could just put an order in to any manufacture for what ever car they desire.

    • @likeatree-ei8it
      @likeatree-ei8it 2 місяці тому

      Then they won't get as many likes and subscribes. You've got to pay to play!

    • @PaddyBoy644
      @PaddyBoy644 2 місяці тому

      @@likeatree-ei8it how can pay with money you don’t have? All businesses have a strategy, I’m sure they’d have hypercars every video if they could.

  • @doug7547
    @doug7547 2 місяці тому +1

    Everyone complaining about manual vs automatic. When the turbo and awd also play a hige factor, especially at that elevation.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 місяці тому

      All meaningless with a poor driver.

  • @leecook7904
    @leecook7904 2 місяці тому

    More random car races like this. Different than other channels. I dig it.

  • @g.donuts3551
    @g.donuts3551 2 місяці тому +10

    DSG and simply a stage 1 tune on the Golf R and this would have actually been interesting.

    • @scottroberts5529
      @scottroberts5529 2 місяці тому +3

      I believe unitronic has a stg1 tune for the R brings up the power figures up to 465hp just wth a simple tune

    • @njo9966
      @njo9966 2 місяці тому

      How much would DSG and that tune cost? Silly statement.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 місяці тому

      @@njo9966 $1000

    • @kevinrotge4774
      @kevinrotge4774 2 місяці тому +1

      @@njo9966 APR DSG and engine tune would be about $1000 give or take $100.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      🤣 even bone stock auto golf r would smoke the mustang 12.8@108 but this is mk 7.5

  • @nevercedes2070
    @nevercedes2070 2 місяці тому +6

    Worst launch I’ve ever seen on an AWD car

    • @harrymaier5727
      @harrymaier5727 Місяць тому

      The computer cuts the power when you put it into full throttle and release the clutch. Is not the driver. If it doesn't you break it in 1 week. welcome to the vw world

    • @nevercedes2070
      @nevercedes2070 Місяць тому +1

      @@harrymaier5727 lol I literally own this car, it doesn’t bog like that , 100% driver issue

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      ​​Yea its a pain manual but a great driver knows not to floor it right way my friend did 13.8@97 yes took him 5 tries but 16 is just probably there only try.

    • @Niedersach3e
      @Niedersach3e 14 днів тому

      Facts the diver cant drive manuel

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 13 днів тому

      @@Niedersach3e Its not easy trust me it took my friend 5 to 6 tries his first try was 16@97mph 60 foot 3.0 All that change was 60 foot went to 2.0 13.8@97mph

  • @Isha048
    @Isha048 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't care the performance, it can be the last car, but the sound of the Mustang gives goosebumps; that's enough for me to buy that car, although the interior is questionable. I don't like any electric cars, not even hybrid ones. Thanks for the video.

  • @Steve-yr5vi
    @Steve-yr5vi 2 місяці тому +2

    The backseat is actually fairly usable, my kids when they were young loved them. My opinion, it's clear Ford put an effort into making the rear seat usable. The Mustang is appointed with one of the better 2+2 rear seats that can be found. Say what you want about that VW, at a quick glance it could be one of 20 different cars. At a glance a Mustang is instantly recognized. There comes a time when you no longer want a 4 door car, buying a sports car makes a statement in your life. For those in that market; a Mustang is very hard to dismiss. It's hard to say that the shear competence of the Mustang hasn't forced BMW to significantly increase their game with the BMW M cars. Here's your decision maker when comparing a M2/3/4 vs. a Mustang, sure the BMW is a quicker, it's nicer on the inside, however you know with zero doubt, you're gonna be dumping money into that M car to keep it on the road and out of the shop. A Mustang on the other hand is built to drive to hell and back as if were any other day.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 місяці тому

      Its the incognito factor about the Golf R that makes it attractive.

  • @stevehrocks
    @stevehrocks 2 місяці тому +9

    The M240i XDrive would be the perfect competition. It’s a 2 door coupe.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 2 місяці тому

      With a tune = deadly launch!!

    • @Joseph.11
      @Joseph.11 2 місяці тому +1

      True...but the price is a difference

  • @T3banin
    @T3banin Місяць тому +5

    you need to be drunk to understand this comparison

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics 10 днів тому

      Should have brought the new Model 3 performance.

    • @JoshuaBSams
      @JoshuaBSams 6 днів тому

      I’m too drunk to taste this chicken

  • @lffit
    @lffit 2 місяці тому +2

    Mustang for me, but I don't live in the US, here in rural France, the back roads are narrow so it's the VW or a small Ford!

  • @tactical_potato81
    @tactical_potato81 2 місяці тому +1

    There's just something about the sound and feel of a good old-fashioned American V8

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      Slow!! not impressed 13.6 😂 my bros A3 quattro auto stage 1 does 13.0@106 only 280HP 😂 now his stage 2 12.3@111 328HP only.

  • @MichelDominique
    @MichelDominique 2 місяці тому +4

    Not exactly a fair fight but this in a way proves that there's no replacement for displacement in a straight line.

  • @Asaphunnna
    @Asaphunnna 2 місяці тому +14

    Bruh yall tripping down here, the comparison is just for fun. Out of curiosity, yall getting ur feelings hurt

  • @thomasjohnson6808
    @thomasjohnson6808 2 дні тому

    I did not know that 486 was almost 500. Thanks for the useful information.

  • @piotrk1047
    @piotrk1047 2 місяці тому +1

    these newer mustangs really do surprise, all and all neat race, Ty for sharing.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      BRO its not a fair race if they bring the golf r auto version he would have done 12.5 🤣 one second faster than the mustang but with only 300HP

  • @dnice362
    @dnice362 2 місяці тому +3

    Cmon auto vs auto

    • @joshc606
      @joshc606 2 місяці тому

      You can provide the Auto for them???

    • @ridexdrive
      @ridexdrive 2 місяці тому

      @@joshc606 If they don't have an Auto then the least they could do is not quote stats from the DSG Golf R to set the entire video up. Also maybe explaining to viewers the Sahara-sized gap in performance you get with the DSG vs. the 6-speed. It's neither informative nor genuine to go about it the way they did.

  • @Franz-vg6hy
    @Franz-vg6hy 2 місяці тому +19

    Dear TFL ,dont mix appels with bananas, they are not the same Fruit ,Ultra fast Automatic with Launch Control against a manual transmission??

    • @zeke63
      @zeke63 2 місяці тому

      The Mustang doesn't have launch control.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 2 місяці тому

      What launch control ?

    • @layne4376
      @layne4376 2 місяці тому +3

      @@zeke63 Yes it does. You can set the launch at several different RPM points.

    • @gman3563
      @gman3563 2 місяці тому +4

      It's not supposed to be apples to apples. That's boring. The real world exists for a reason. If you rolled up to a light and wanted to race to the next one what would happen. That's what's cool about these comparisons. They are both 46k and built they way they are built

    • @DD-dj4jr
      @DD-dj4jr 2 місяці тому +1

      Same price……different ice cream flavors…..great content!

  • @puttguy
    @puttguy 2 місяці тому

    "VW GOLD R " vs Ford Mustang GT at 8:49 made me laugh! 🤣

  • @ekaddo
    @ekaddo 2 місяці тому

    Great shot, on launch, in slow motion, showing the rear suspension load up

  • @aallien
    @aallien 2 місяці тому +3

    Agh, no DSG on the Golf. I’d still have the Golf R (with DSG) with the APR stage 1 tune. Better fit and finish on the Golf.

    • @FB6K24Z7
      @FB6K24Z7 Місяць тому

      Lol better fit and finish on a VW 😂😂😂all i see is plastic Garbage 🗑️ inside the cabin even a damm honda civic has a better made and better looking interior nowadays then that golf 😂lol vw clowns these days

  • @MarkRenn
    @MarkRenn 2 місяці тому +5

    This is why manuals are going away. Slowest shifts. Worst performance.

    • @hwirtwirt4500
      @hwirtwirt4500 2 місяці тому

      Manuals are going away because most Gen-Z's can't drive them.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 2 місяці тому +1

      Manuals are fun but 90% of people don't know how to race/shift properly in them.

  • @garysarratt1
    @garysarratt1 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m surprised the VW is only 350# lighter than the Mustang.

  • @joshuaenyart5570
    @joshuaenyart5570 2 місяці тому

    I think this is a great comparison! Because I have shopped these two vehicles like you have them! The mustang with the automatic so it could be more controllable for my wife and the comparison of the all-wheel drive with the manual to add a little bit more stability while having a little bit more fun with the manual transmission!

    • @TFLcar
      @TFLcar  2 місяці тому

      Right on!

  • @ridexdrive
    @ridexdrive 2 місяці тому +3

    I understand sometimes you have to work with what you have, but as soon as you mentioned that the Golf was a manual, I knew you guys couldn't be serious about this video. Or maybe you were, which is even worse. If the point was to demonstrate the value of the Mustang in terms of performance, unfortunately, you missed the mark. First, the 0-60 time of just over 4 seconds that you mentioned for the Golf R applies when it is equipped with the DSG. The DSG only adds $800 to the MSRP but significantly enhances performance. Second, you quoted the Golf R as having 315 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque. Again, this would be correct if you were discussing the DSG version, which is not featured in this video. The 6-speed manual version has less torque than the DSG, at 280 lb-ft. There’s no reason to expect a 315 hp sport compact to be faster than a 480 hp sports car, but if you're going to base the entire video around a particular car, in this case, the Golf R, at least use the car whose stats you are quoting. To reiterate, the car you are discussing (Golf R DSG) and the car you have (Golf R 6-Speed) differ significantly in performance. Mustangs and pony cars in general have always offered great performance for the dollar. That's not newsworthy. However, trying to make a point and then choosing the worst example of a car that is already at a disadvantage doesn’t help your case. If the goal is to show how fast a car can be compared to similarly priced cars, the Mustang, as optioned in this video, is actually more expensive than the Golf. I'm not criticizing the inclusion of these cars in a video together, but at least make an effort to properly inform viewers about what's happening. Additionally, continuing to discuss how much faster the Mustang is, as if there isn’t a clear reason why the Golf R ran a 16-second quarter mile (maybe 15 in better condition), is hard to understand. Motorweek recorded a 12.5-second quarter mile at 111 mph in the Golf R. Car and Driver reported the same time as Motorweek, and Carwow reported a 12.3 second quarter. The Mustang in this video ran a 13.6-second quarter mile (assume a 12.6 in better conditions). Don’t skirt around the issue; address it directly. Otherwise, thanks for the time and effort put into these videos. I just wish there was a bit more purpose and understanding behind what is going on here.

    • @evital7527
      @evital7527 2 місяці тому +1

      I don't even think they used launch control on the Mercedes.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 2 місяці тому

      You couldn't have said this better. You saved me from writing the paragraph myself 😂

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 2 місяці тому

      @@evital7527 This is correct. The Mercedes should've beat the Mustang from a dig if they used launch control and actually started at the same time. The guy started late AND didn't use launch control..

  • @Empok_Nor
    @Empok_Nor 2 місяці тому +4

    Try comparing apples to apples guys.

  • @tritchie6272
    @tritchie6272 2 місяці тому +2

    My take, the Mustang for weekend fun,and the VW for the daily driver family car. The Mercedes while it has a Pretty interior, for some reason doesn't appeal to me enough to spend that much on.

  • @robtech341
    @robtech341 15 днів тому

    Our next race is going to be a 1997 Toyota corolla with unmatched tires vs. a 2024 Porsche 911. And.............go!
    After watching this I guess you guys have never heard the true saying, "There is no replacement for displacement." You can keep up for a little bit, but given time and length the displacement king usually ends up walking away. Cheers.

  • @Zwikster
    @Zwikster 2 місяці тому +3

    Less shots of the drivers face driving and more shots of the actual race

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 2 місяці тому +7

    So fake, the Golf can be way waaay faster than this!

  • @jlaw1901
    @jlaw1901 2 місяці тому

    That slo-mo launch shot was great!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 місяці тому

      It would have been had we has a split screen of the VW.

  • @visakhrajendran741
    @visakhrajendran741 2 місяці тому +1

    I would be okay with comparison of mustang v8 manual vs Accord 2T auto (tunned if you can)

  • @norwegianblue2017
    @norwegianblue2017 2 місяці тому +3

    Mustang all day. Especially where I live which is close to sea level and never snows, rarely rains. Anyone who would pass on that Coyote V8 for a nicer interior isn't really a car person in my book.

  • @davidclymer2207
    @davidclymer2207 2 місяці тому

    Pretty close, actually considering the power difference. Both great cars! Nice to still have some good IC performance car choices at the moment.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      Close !? 😂 bro did 16@97

  • @Driven2Compete
    @Driven2Compete 2 місяці тому

    You pick the fastest version of the mustang with the 10 speed auto against the golf r in its slowest version in a manual. Line the stang up beside a golf r with a dsg and launch control and see what the outcome is.

  • @gamekiller9043
    @gamekiller9043 Місяць тому

    Such a fair fight… The Americans were too scared to bring a VW Golf R with a DSG….

  • @cndctrdjful
    @cndctrdjful Місяць тому +1

    Id love to see this vs thw dsg golf r. My golf r (older) dsg ran 12.8 all day bone stock. Hot lapped. No tire pressure adjustment. Jsut ran 12.8s the manual version is more than a second slower in the 1/4

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      Agree my cousin had a mk 7.5 golf r dsg auto he did 12.8@108. Yes manual a second slower but only if your great at it. Would have smoked mustang by one second.

  • @drluvmuffins3696
    @drluvmuffins3696 Місяць тому

    Coming from the Elantra N, I can't help but love my new s650 Mustang GT. Coming from that Hyundai Ecobox, the interior of my base GT is still a pretty decent upgrade. (far less creaky plastic)

  • @richardbrown1553
    @richardbrown1553 Місяць тому

    Does the GT Premium have a better interior?

  • @merrelljohnson
    @merrelljohnson Місяць тому

    Mustangs with the track options are good for drag racing and taking corners.

  • @markv78
    @markv78 2 місяці тому

    Tfl how about adding salom course to these reviews to test handling . Or put them on a track and with the stig . Speaking of which we haven't seen the stig for a while??

  • @skittlesgarage
    @skittlesgarage 2 дні тому

    While the fun factor of the 6 speed manual is better than an auto, the DSG would have been a much better and interesting race.

  • @honesttechreviews...1713
    @honesttechreviews...1713 15 днів тому +1

    A DSG would have made a world of difference

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 2 місяці тому

    Great video!!

  • @crickmay1967
    @crickmay1967 Місяць тому

    the golf with dsg transmission is definitely MUCH FASTER on the 1/8 mile, perhaps also on the 1/4 mile.

  • @rafaelcarazo4768
    @rafaelcarazo4768 2 місяці тому

    The difference in transmissions tells me everything I need to know about this test .

  • @googlewolly
    @googlewolly Місяць тому

    As others have said, you should've raced the Mustang against the DSG Golf R.

  • @hondacar
    @hondacar Місяць тому

    An automatic Golf R might have still lost, but the outcome would likely have been tighter. As for a manual Mustang versus a DSG Golf R, it's hard to determine which would come out on top. Perhaps that match-up might be for another day.

  • @drakensberghiker8565
    @drakensberghiker8565 Місяць тому

    As you Americans say, there is no replacement for displacement.

  • @sander16v11
    @sander16v11 2 місяці тому

    I think the “dual screen” interior of the mustang looks better than the one large premium screen

  • @tjhohman
    @tjhohman 12 днів тому

    I love the vw check engine light on

  • @robervin9107
    @robervin9107 2 місяці тому +1

    Tremendous job kase. Five stars. ❤

  • @purplehazers92
    @purplehazers92 Місяць тому

    I wish I could get one for $46k That same mustang was $68k when I went to my local Ford dealership last week. Just a bare bones gt automatic. I hope that the dealership never sells it for that price. I just laughed at the sales person.

  • @3wheelmannc860
    @3wheelmannc860 2 місяці тому

    Good comparison among two poplar choices, although not equally matched, but that is fine... you are showing them for what they are and what the possibilities may be for daily real world use...The track bragging rights stuff is chest pounding cool, but getting up at 7 am driving to work and those daily navigations make much more sense. I still think both are amazing, but the Mustang could really be better for that if they would simply remove the back seat and create a quality space back there for general/practical storage for the day-to-day. At $46k they may be affordable muscle type vehicles, but for a daily driver, that price is just not going to work for me. Comfort and fuel mileage are my premium choice.

  • @Corsa15DT
    @Corsa15DT 2 місяці тому +1

    that golf is 12.5 seconds 1/4 miles. You managed 16 seconds, good test :D

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 15 днів тому

      Yup combination of manual and bad driver.
      but trust me even if you get a great driver, you loose half a second alone shifting its not a fair race😅
      my friend went drag racing in golf r manual his best was 13.8@97mph 60 foot 2.0.
      His first try was 16@97.
      exact like in video I bet his 60 foot was 3 like my friend. Took my friend 5 tries All that change was his 60 foot went from 3 to 2.0 his trap same 97 mph.

    • @Corsa15DT
      @Corsa15DT 15 днів тому

      @@totov7673 half a second loss is normal. 4 seconds is unacceptable.

  • @johnathanbusha8919
    @johnathanbusha8919 2 місяці тому

    Finally, someone from TFL didnt say an absurd amount of money for a car is pretty cheap.

  • @GenSparks
    @GenSparks 2 місяці тому

    I love the mustang gt I really do, I now have a golf R manual and will go back to a mustang at a later time bought it because it was the last of the manuals. The golf R traction control is very restrictive and combine that with slow shift I understand why they did a 16sec 1/4 mile. There is no way with the traction control off and in special mode that you would have done a 16s 1/4 even at that elevation hell a regular civic can do that. You need to launch that thing at 5k and shift it like you mean it. They will do low 13 high 12 the golf R engine is underrated will put about 30x hp at the wheels while the mustang will be around 390 just an fyi. Also the mustang traction control is way way less restrictive will still spin the tires under full acceleration.

  • @user-wm5zx5oz1u
    @user-wm5zx5oz1u Місяць тому

    That time for the golf r is shocking. Obviously manual is slower than dsg but I think better driver would get a better time

  • @dham99
    @dham99 2 місяці тому

    What about the R vs the AMG? They seem like they'd be a good match due to power/weight ratios.

  • @tbutz21
    @tbutz21 Місяць тому +1

    DSG R is almost a full second faster on the quarter mile than the manual.
    You guys can do better.