Muscle vs Turbo: The New Volkswagen Golf R Takes on the New Mustang in a Drag Race!

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  • @ericmorris2831
    @ericmorris2831 8 місяців тому +937

    Manual golf VS automatic mustang isn't exactly a fair fight

    • @Marbind
      @Marbind 8 місяців тому +65

      V8 vs 4Cyl
      High 400hp vs Low 300hp

    • @chrism869
      @chrism869 8 місяців тому +85

      Yeah fr they need the dsg one

    • @tapout954
      @tapout954 8 місяців тому +92

      Both manual or both dct would've been fair.

    • @woocoheed
      @woocoheed 8 місяців тому +5

      It’s realistic though. Manual take rate for golf R is decently high

    • @bobuncle8704
      @bobuncle8704 8 місяців тому +28

      As stated in the video, both cars are essentially the same price, so looking at value. As well, both manufacturers claim an equivalent 0 to 60 time, so should be relatively equal in that department. They did point out most of the inequalities, so they’re quite up front about all that.

  • @Seventh7Art
    @Seventh7Art 8 місяців тому +460

    DSG makes a huge difference compared to the manual gearbox...

    • @tombentley6329
      @tombentley6329 8 місяців тому +64

      The fact a manual was used over a Auto DSG made me sick. This video is a no from me.

    • @rinyi-y4r
      @rinyi-y4r 8 місяців тому +5

      Does the dsg variant come with more hp? If not, the result would've been the same.

    • @DynamicAttraction
      @DynamicAttraction 8 місяців тому +11

      @@rinyi-y4r yes it does and it shifts faster then a human Google the golf r manual vs dsg stats

    • @amaldev4150
      @amaldev4150 8 місяців тому

      @@tombentley6329 What about 30mph race?

    • @andrezirkler9062
      @andrezirkler9062 8 місяців тому +15

      Wrong - just take a look at the diff in performance (as documented by Car&Driver): "2022 Golf R with the seven-speed automatic transmission hit 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds; with the six-speed manual, the Golf R needed 4.9"

  • @john-martin
    @john-martin 8 місяців тому +308

    The mustang has 100hp more and a 10 spd auto transmission. Would have been better if the VW had a DSG trans.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 8 місяців тому +5

      I agree the dsg would have been better for comparison, but the manual is more fun and has just as good of a time as the dsg, not TOO much of a difference. Sometimes (extremely rare) the manual might actually get a better time. Either way the Volks had it's advantages too.

    • @charlienevergold3654
      @charlienevergold3654 8 місяців тому +20

      @@leofhr2966type R DSG O-60 is 4.2 manual is close to 5. No way a manual could ever beat a DSG. Thats why Porsche won’t put a manual is some RS models. The all important lap times were pitiful while testing is manual.

    • @layne4376
      @layne4376 8 місяців тому +30

      @@leofhr2966 Absolutely not. The DSG does the quarter in 12.4 at 111 mph. The manual is almost a second slower at 104 mph. Not only does the DSG produce more torque, but that transmission never drops boost.

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 8 місяців тому +5

      Is actually 141hp more.

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 8 місяців тому +19

      @@layne4376 Manuals are fun but they are slow, this is not the 90s.

  • @muskcoder6367
    @muskcoder6367 8 місяців тому +98

    The DSG in the VW 'R' would have been a better choice.

    • @ClayF403
      @ClayF403 Місяць тому

      For real, if I knew the R was a manual I wouldn't have even clicked the video

  • @jet_black
    @jet_black 7 місяців тому +17

    The Golf R with the Dsg would take it. 100%

  • @zeitgeist888
    @zeitgeist888 8 місяців тому +43

    Wow you have to do a better comparison. First get a better driver for the Golf R if you are going to put a manual against the 10 speed auto Mustang. 16's is atrocious unless you are running in the stratosphere. That is just bad driving. Second comparing a 6 sp manual to 10 speed auto is too huge a difference for any kind of fair comparison. Compare auto to DSG and manual to manual and you will see much closer races.

    • @Scknight7
      @Scknight7 8 місяців тому

      The driver didn't account for 3 seconds.

    • @zeitgeist888
      @zeitgeist888 8 місяців тому +11

      @@Scknight7 Closer to 4 seconds. Golf Rs run mid to high 12s anywhere near sea level. Even at altitude it should run way quicker than 16seconds with even a fair driver who knows how to launch and shift.

    • @glh_somemore
      @glh_somemore 3 місяці тому +1

      According to C&D....
      A 486hp auto Mustang
      A "properly matched" opponent Golf R DSG
      And a C43 AMG as presented...
      All 3 ran 3.9s 0-60 times using launch control.
      All are fast in their own way and not full EV's so let's rejoice in that.

    • @aaronclifton7512
      @aaronclifton7512 Місяць тому +2

      That guy was awful shifting

  • @morgandrives
    @morgandrives 8 місяців тому +140

    No one buys a Mustang for interior quality, space, or interior details. It is the engine. Still miss mine.

    • @kazigen911
      @kazigen911 7 місяців тому +1

      What happened to it bro

    • @decimator5494
      @decimator5494 7 місяців тому +3

      You cant compare a base Mustang interior against the top of the line interior of another manufacturer. If you at least got the premium high option has 5 interior color choices. The base has just 2, all black which you have and black/grey.

    • @Mr0sito
      @Mr0sito 7 місяців тому +3

      Yes you can bro they cost the same😂 once you add options to a GT they can get up to 65k. You can get M2 for that.@decimator5494

    • @HD_Kerino
      @HD_Kerino 7 місяців тому

      @@Mr0sitoyup, hope they have fun in their fast rental car😢

    • @KiingPoop
      @KiingPoop 6 місяців тому +1

      @@HD_KerinoI’d take the mustang any day over any bmw

  • @JVette01
    @JVette01 8 місяців тому +46

    Next race: Camaro ZL1 10 speed vs Mustang EcoBoost with a manual!

    • @x1boomer
      @x1boomer 7 місяців тому

      camaro is 💀

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      Not a fair race 😂 both auto

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      🤣 the ZL1 auto V8 2001-2012 sucks it does 1/4 mile in 14.7

    • @nyelement007
      @nyelement007 5 місяців тому

      11.4@124

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 5 місяців тому

      @@nyelement007 Yea probably the 2024 one but not even 12.5@124 at best. I saw 3 drag race there best was 14.7 but this is the 2001-2008 model.

  • @Rskitalll
    @Rskitalll 8 місяців тому +213

    For the money the Mustang is hard to beat. The V8 sound is unmistakable

    • @omardevonlittle3817
      @omardevonlittle3817 8 місяців тому +5

      its actually insanely easy to beat... like buy a clapped out model 3 for 15k.... leave it in the dust.

    • @fullspeedfordbronco
      @fullspeedfordbronco 8 місяців тому

      @@omardevonlittle3817M3P for 15K? Where?

    • @Rskitalll
      @Rskitalll 8 місяців тому +22

      That model 3 will last a month before you need to put more money in to it

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 8 місяців тому +13

      @@omardevonlittle3817 lolololl not all of us are teenagers

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 8 місяців тому +1

      Same thing are saying people in Germany about the price of VW.

  • @dwarnke72
    @dwarnke72 8 місяців тому +42

    My bone stock dsg Golf R ran 12.6 @ 108 down here in Phoenix which never gets good air and is at 1700’. How does it lose 4 freaking seconds going to Colorado?

    • @AlejandroZavalaRichards
      @AlejandroZavalaRichards 8 місяців тому +3

      Pretty sure they ran it with traction control on, it kills the manual Golf R

    • @life36899
      @life36899 8 місяців тому +2

      Most tests show Golf R's DSG's running the 1/4 mile without mods in the 12's and manuals in the 13's even if you take away one second for the altitude a manual should run right around the 14's.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 8 місяців тому +10

      Mine ran 12.5 @ 110.39 here in Vegas... it doesn't lose 4 seconds. It's a combo between manual trans and bad driver.

    • @genderlessyoutubefanperson
      @genderlessyoutubefanperson 8 місяців тому +4

      @@JVette01 Yea, man...tell them, expose this BS video. :)

    • @dwarnke72
      @dwarnke72 8 місяців тому

      @@JVette01 when are you taking your car back with the stage 1 tune?

  • @Maestrodamus
    @Maestrodamus 8 місяців тому +10

    The slow motion of the Mustang off the line was incredible!

  • @carloscanales6533
    @carloscanales6533 8 місяців тому +36

    I didn't buy a mustang thinking someone was going to sit in the back ! Buy your own!

    • @tripsixx5802
      @tripsixx5802 7 місяців тому +1

      I’ve had 5 over the years and the back seat generally gets stripped out right before a/c 😂

  • @garyjinks7482
    @garyjinks7482 8 місяців тому +55

    Auto against 6 speed, where is the DSG not a fair race.

    • @genderlessyoutubefanperson
      @genderlessyoutubefanperson 8 місяців тому +2

      With the DSG it would not be a fair race. :)

    • @carpentierjohn7
      @carpentierjohn7 8 місяців тому

      boo hoo

    • @jeffkotanko8784
      @jeffkotanko8784 7 місяців тому +2

      The manual mustang is faster than the 10 speed auto

    • @bryanfisher9087
      @bryanfisher9087 7 місяців тому +1

      No dsg no launch mode vs auto trans with drag mode? Not sure what what they were going for here?

    • @grizzzlyadamz
      @grizzzlyadamz 7 місяців тому

      @@bryanfisher9087 basically performance cars at same price. That mustang actually $41,000 where I’m at. The golf r $46,000 with manual $48,000 dsg. To me that leaves the owner with 5,000-7,000 dollars to make it quicker and your own

  • @philjenkins2320
    @philjenkins2320 8 місяців тому +38

    The slow mo launch with the Mustang was just beautiful.

  • @tizodd6
    @tizodd6 8 місяців тому +48

    @5:30 It looks like FORD just glued a couple of tablets onto the Mustang dash😂

  • @mboiko
    @mboiko 8 місяців тому +76

    What's really crazy is that $46K is now considered a "lower" cost car. Compare Consumer Price Inflation/Index before Jan 2020 to today. They are two different worlds. Maybe we should send another $100B to Ukraine and I say this as someone who happens to be 50% Ukranian.
    Great job guys...!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 8 місяців тому +1

      Not quite. But it is approaching the 50k average car cost.

    • @edbowejr6130
      @edbowejr6130 8 місяців тому +4

      And people don’t see the inflation or think the economy is doing well

    • @TheWolfMatt
      @TheWolfMatt 7 місяців тому +4

      @@edbowejr6130 That's the crazy part. You can't even get a basic Honda Civic for less than 30k these days whereas, only a couple years ago, would have been in the high teens.

    • @mboiko
      @mboiko 7 місяців тому +3

      @@TheWolfMatt Yes, but that was in the "Old Days"...a whole 36-48+ Months Ago. Within the time of a lease agreement.
      You want to really be scared...the US National Debt is increasing now at a rate of $1 TRILLION every 100 days!

    • @deejay2793
      @deejay2793 7 місяців тому +5

      Jeez I remember the good old days when you could get a new 5.0 gt for 23k 😂

  • @T3banin
    @T3banin 7 місяців тому +22

    you need to be drunk to understand this comparison

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics 6 місяців тому

      Should have brought the new Model 3 performance.

    • @JoshuaBSams
      @JoshuaBSams 6 місяців тому +1

      I’m too drunk to taste this chicken

    • @ContactMultimedia
      @ContactMultimedia 2 місяці тому

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

  • @legionmartin
    @legionmartin 8 місяців тому +7

    When I was younger, build quality was not a major concern or care of mine. As I get older, a balance of build quality and performance is something I consider more seriously.

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 8 місяців тому +14

    Love the slo-mo at launch!

  • @S650Jesse
    @S650Jesse 7 місяців тому +4

    5:25 I'd just like to mention, judging a base model 300A package on interior quality isn't too fair. The GT Premiums with the 401A package feel CONSIDERABLY better. Soft touch pho-leather completely covers the drivetrain tunnel, your dash, door cards. There's accented stitching on every surface, the seats are leather, etc. Sitting in the two of them is night and day .

    • @YournameHere-ye6ht
      @YournameHere-ye6ht 7 місяців тому +2

      Very true. And I optioned mine Atlas Blue with the Carmine Red interior....fire!

    • @billymays7210
      @billymays7210 5 місяців тому

      Exactly. The GT Premium vs the DSG R would have been much more even on price/ interior quality/ performance.

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta 8 місяців тому +71

    $46k for a golf. Never thought i would see that.

    • @orlandosantiago6398
      @orlandosantiago6398 7 місяців тому +29

      imagine paying $63k for a mid size Toyota pickup truck lol

    • @goochigoochs3836
      @goochigoochs3836 7 місяців тому +3

      Right!?! I still remember our family got a Mustang Saleen S281 convertible for less than $30K twenty years ago. But in fairness, with all the safety technologies and driving aids, I think the price increase is justified in the sense that you are safer with more relaxing driving experience.

    • @BakerGermany
      @BakerGermany 7 місяців тому +2

      Imagine that we pay that for a standard golf in Europe. The golf R is about 70 k

    • @davelospinoso9022
      @davelospinoso9022 7 місяців тому +1

      Just paid 50k for an Acura Integra lol when i was 17, corvettes were 50k

    • @technopong
      @technopong 7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I wouldn't be shelling out for that.

  • @YtRando69
    @YtRando69 8 місяців тому +23

    Omg give the golf R a dsg and make it fair... The Dsg is amazing!
    Omg that guy can't drive a manual!

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 8 місяців тому +5

      The guy was awful at manual. Yes, the DSG is a worlds difference.

    • @johnnyVGtran
      @johnnyVGtran 7 місяців тому

      He's 96 what would you expect lmao

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@johnnyVGtranIn a manual your trap always same its his 60 foot must be in the 3. My friend first try was also 16@97mph but after 5 tries he did 13.8@97mph but his 60 foot is 2.0. Even your great in a manual your going to loose half a second its not a fair race 😂 .

  • @PaddyBoy644
    @PaddyBoy644 8 місяців тому +42

    Everyone complaining about the comparison between two very different cars needs to understand a company life TFL does’t have a budget of Top Gear so they need to make content with what they have.
    I’m sure they’d love to have a DSG Golf but they might not have had the option.
    Great video as always guys I really enjoy your content.
    Cheers Pat🇦🇺

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks 8 місяців тому +4

      While I agree with your premise, I'm a bit disappointed in the way this comparison is presented. There needs to be some sort of purpose. Something they're trying to prove about the differences between them. All they seem to be doing is say: "The Mustang is a better car for going fast." Which is kind of a no-brainer.

    • @Empok_Nor
      @Empok_Nor 8 місяців тому +4

      They have no budget?? But yet they use a Mercedes Benz 😂

    • @PaddyBoy644
      @PaddyBoy644 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Empok_Nor you might want to go read that comment again bud, I said they don’t have a budget of Top Gear who could just put an order in to any manufacture for what ever car they desire.

    • @likeatree-ei8it
      @likeatree-ei8it 8 місяців тому

      Then they won't get as many likes and subscribes. You've got to pay to play!

    • @PaddyBoy644
      @PaddyBoy644 8 місяців тому

      @@likeatree-ei8it how can pay with money you don’t have? All businesses have a strategy, I’m sure they’d have hypercars every video if they could.

  • @gregc9220
    @gregc9220 8 місяців тому +19

    Man y'all making me want to buy another mustang 😅

  • @tomfromeyer6230
    @tomfromeyer6230 8 місяців тому +7

    The 24 mustang is sharp! Looks great and drives great 💪🏻

  • @Dudek28
    @Dudek28 6 місяців тому +5

    This drag race is incredibly flawed. The DSG Golf is considerably faster than the manual.

    • @brettdiehl1965
      @brettdiehl1965 2 місяці тому

      It's not only faster with a DSG but they're also missing the entire point of the Golf. The point isn't just to be fun in a straight line, the fun comes from the fact that you can absolutely chuck it into a corner at full speed and not die. It is absolutely a joy to drive on back country road. Source: I own a 2024 Golf R and I live in the mountains.

  • @davidwatson4723
    @davidwatson4723 8 місяців тому +13

    What amazes me is 46000 for a GOLF!!!

    • @tedjones403
      @tedjones403 7 місяців тому +1

      Still below the average price for a vehicle in 2024 - I cannot believe what pick-ups sell for - talk about a rip off!

    • @grizzzlyadamz
      @grizzzlyadamz 7 місяців тому +1

      What’s crazy here where I live in East Tennessee. That mustang 41k and the golf r 48k.

    • @Curly004
      @Curly004 6 місяців тому +1

      I mean its a good car you should always Pick the dsg trans

    • @lawabiding2576
      @lawabiding2576 5 місяців тому

      They'll sell every one! It's a cult following....

    • @mkviis
      @mkviis 4 місяці тому

      46k is nothing, autobahn R sold for $68K in Dubai then went down to $54K

  • @breakandrun70
    @breakandrun70 Місяць тому

    Had a Volks R, loved the way it handled. Plus I had it set up with a full stage 2, it was a beast. Dyno said it was putting out 390 Hp
    422ft pds of torque, That was in #1 setting, never dyno in #2, but it was quite a bit more power.

  • @SubBro22
    @SubBro22 8 місяців тому +6

    Loved that Slow-mo at the beginning of the drag race😍

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 8 місяців тому +6

    Mustang 💪

  • @honesttechreviews...1713
    @honesttechreviews...1713 6 місяців тому +3

    A DSG would have made a world of difference

  • @WaveManMike
    @WaveManMike 8 місяців тому +5

    Can we get a redo with the DSG Golf R? It would be good to see the difference. I know everyone else is complaining but it’s fair to say it’ll be a successful video after all 😂

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 8 місяців тому

      They probably just run what's available to them. Anyone with a brain would've brought the DSG if they're trying to race a car with 171 more horsepower.

  • @joshc606
    @joshc606 8 місяців тому +3

    Let’s remember commenters, the Mustang is on All Seasons and the Golf is on Pilot Sport tires. Get a driver with a redline clutch drop and it would have done better but would still lose in the end.

  • @cndctrdjful
    @cndctrdjful 7 місяців тому +1

    Id love to see this vs thw dsg golf r. My golf r (older) dsg ran 12.8 all day bone stock. Hot lapped. No tire pressure adjustment. Jsut ran 12.8s the manual version is more than a second slower in the 1/4

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      Agree my cousin had a mk 7.5 golf r dsg auto he did 12.8@108. Yes manual a second slower but only if your great at it. Would have smoked mustang by one second.

  • @mikewalters8253
    @mikewalters8253 7 місяців тому +4

    Speed isnt everything, still rather have the Golf r

  • @Steve-yr5vi
    @Steve-yr5vi 8 місяців тому +3

    The backseat is actually fairly usable, my kids when they were young loved them. My opinion, it's clear Ford put an effort into making the rear seat usable. The Mustang is appointed with one of the better 2+2 rear seats that can be found. Say what you want about that VW, at a quick glance it could be one of 20 different cars. At a glance a Mustang is instantly recognized. There comes a time when you no longer want a 4 door car, buying a sports car makes a statement in your life. For those in that market; a Mustang is very hard to dismiss. It's hard to say that the shear competence of the Mustang hasn't forced BMW to significantly increase their game with the BMW M cars. Here's your decision maker when comparing a M2/3/4 vs. a Mustang, sure the BMW is a quicker, it's nicer on the inside, however you know with zero doubt, you're gonna be dumping money into that M car to keep it on the road and out of the shop. A Mustang on the other hand is built to drive to hell and back as if were any other day.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 8 місяців тому

      Its the incognito factor about the Golf R that makes it attractive.

    • @Steve-yr5vi
      @Steve-yr5vi 4 місяці тому

      @@krane15 For some, I recognize that.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 3 місяці тому

      But there's no way an adult is going back there (even a short petite one) for more than a mile or two. The VW, while not a cavernous rear seat, is capable of adult comfort even on a road trip.

  • @OmarRodriguez-ky3nu
    @OmarRodriguez-ky3nu 8 місяців тому +7

    Yeah why not do both manual or both auto.. makes no sense

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому +1

      agree not a fair race they make it sound like the mustang is fastest. Bro if they bring the auto golf r the mustang would loose by 1 second. Also they brought mercedez auto wich is great but also not a fair race bc its the worst germain car out of audi volkswagen and bmw. I dont know it looks like they purposly did that to make look like mustang is fast 😂

    • @mkviis
      @mkviis 4 місяці тому

      Golfs do not come in auto, so either R DSG vs Auto Mustang or both manuals

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 4 місяці тому

      @@mkviis DSG is auto its direct shift gearbox. It shows your american 😅

    • @mkviis
      @mkviis 4 місяці тому

      @@totov7673 dsg is dual clutch. Auto is torque converter.

    • @mkviis
      @mkviis 4 місяці тому

      @@totov7673 saying dsg auto is like saying manual auto. Auto has planetary gears, dsg is a manual gearbox in the inside.
      So saying dsg auto is like saying manual cvt mustang. It makes no sense so stop saying dsg auto 😂 dsg auto 🤣 you're so funny

  • @ludedude5228
    @ludedude5228 4 місяці тому

    Automatic Mustangs only get 3:55 gears and only if it has the track pak
    Standard equipment is a measley 3:23.
    Stick track pak gets the 3:73 gears and allows the 5.0 to rev where it needs to be 💥

  • @ezekielochieng8941
    @ezekielochieng8941 8 місяців тому +8

    We need the 7-speed DSG dual clutch Golf R.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 8 місяців тому +1

      Of course. The manual is limited by the ability of the driver.

    • @JCTiggs1
      @JCTiggs1 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@krane15The manual is also just slower no matter who is driving the R compared to the DSG. Same deal with the Mustang and the 10 spd auto vs the 6 spd manual. The individual gears are quite tall in both cars for the manual which is part of the reason.

  • @0xc1d34
    @0xc1d34 4 місяці тому

    13.6?!?!? my stock ss camaro with exhaust and tune get 11s is it the altitude?

  • @bengilrane
    @bengilrane 8 місяців тому +20

    16 SECOND QUARTER MILE IN A GOLF R U MUST BE JOKING, they normally run low 13 😳

    • @thatfordguy2268
      @thatfordguy2268 8 місяців тому +4

      They're a mile above sea level.
      Air is thinner and It vastly affects performance.
      They have said this over and over, try listening sometime.😏

    • @ContentinMesa
      @ContentinMesa 8 місяців тому +5

      @@thatfordguy2268 3 seconds seems excessive.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 8 місяців тому +2

      ​ @ContentinMesa poor track with barely any grip, poor air (turbo charged barely hets affected), poor overall run, 3 seconds is not shocking chief

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast 8 місяців тому +1

      Clearly have no idea what you’re watching.

    • @joshjohannsen106
      @joshjohannsen106 8 місяців тому +2

      Turbocharged cars are not affected by altitude the way a NA car is. A NA car loses 3% hp per 1000' elevation a turbo is less then 1%

  • @JCTiggs1
    @JCTiggs1 4 місяці тому

    C&D did a 3.9s 0-60 and 12.4@112 mph with the MK8 Golf R and about a second slower in the 6 spd manual.

  • @rockstertx
    @rockstertx 8 місяців тому +14

    The 5.0 with a six speed manual gear box is the way to go... fun to drive, fun to wake up the neighbors and reliable all day long... hell it even gets decent mileage.

    • @Drako_93550
      @Drako_93550 8 місяців тому +4

      You must like being the slow one! Smh

    • @chm2
      @chm2 8 місяців тому +7

      Why would I want to wake up the neighbors? Because I am a jerk?

    • @timmy-wj2hc
      @timmy-wj2hc 8 місяців тому +4

      The kid who likes to annoy his neighbors.

    • @deanhawk7260
      @deanhawk7260 8 місяців тому +4

      Oh yeah I have a 6 speed manual and it’s a kick. 1st and 2nd pull like a freight train. Just a few bolt ons and a race tune, and this car is a monster. Auto is nice in traffic and for drag racing but that’s the only advantage IMHO.

    • @anthonye3680
      @anthonye3680 8 місяців тому

      Americans don't know how to drive a manual transmission.. every year less and less Americans buy stick .. the wussyfication of the USA is strong. Change the W to a P.

  • @elgoogkcuf
    @elgoogkcuf 4 місяці тому +2

    im 1:45 in and wondering the hell they racing a manual vs auto. An auto with 100+ horsepower. wtf are yall doing over there?

  • @joshuaenyart5570
    @joshuaenyart5570 8 місяців тому +3

    I would be happy having any of these cars cuz they are all a bit of fun and also functional

  • @visakhrajendran741
    @visakhrajendran741 8 місяців тому +1

    I would be okay with comparison of mustang v8 manual vs Accord 2T auto (tunned if you can)

  • @mattigower1479
    @mattigower1479 8 місяців тому +3

    Any car buyers looking for a new car probably wont line up a VW Golf, a Benz and a Mustang as a choice. These cars are targeted at different markets. Gotta luv the v8 though. There is no replacement for displacement, no substitute for cubic inches. Sadly, Mustang is the last v8 left in the market now, its all there is, and its days are almost certainly numbered, for now at least. Mustang is a much simpler car technically, service and repair costs will be much higher with the German cars, they are technically more complicated.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 8 місяців тому

      Well - if parents stop sending their kids to activism camps - I mean - Public school - then we can go back to an economy that is based on reality - not “muh emotionz dude bruh”
      Fathers in homes and home school = will help save the world from the beta males that are working to destroy it

  • @Me-eb3wv
    @Me-eb3wv 5 місяців тому

    As a massive fan of both mustangs and Golf Rs, you have no idea how much I love this video 😊

  • @stockey
    @stockey 8 місяців тому +3

    Nothing beats a V8 for the fun to drive.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 3 місяці тому +1

      False. The Golfs are tossable and on a winding road will put a grin on your face every time.

    • @brettdiehl1965
      @brettdiehl1965 2 місяці тому

      @@krane15 Correct. The V8 SOUNDS better but on a twisty windy road the big fat muscle car will have a hard time keeping up with a torque vectoring all wheel drive system that is deciding where to send the power to 1000 times per second.

  • @show-me-retro
    @show-me-retro 8 місяців тому +1

    Mustang all day

  • @orlandonoche
    @orlandonoche 8 місяців тому +5

    you lost me as soon as you guy showed the vw with the manual transmission (REALLY?) , with a DSG the vw should be able to at least make this video interesting to watch , race the two cars with the same transmission (auto or manual) , is that so difficult???

    • @grantdavis6011
      @grantdavis6011 8 місяців тому

      Yes, actually it is.

    • @orlandonoche
      @orlandonoche 8 місяців тому

      @@grantdavis6011yes off course;😮there are just hundreds of mustangs out there with a manual transmission; getting one is such a “difficult task “ to accomplish right? ufff😅 , got it.

  • @jonahseabarkrob6237
    @jonahseabarkrob6237 7 місяців тому

    The DSG Golf R has been timed at 12.5 seconds in the1/4 mile by Motorweek. The tested time here was 16 seconds?

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes combination of manual and bad driver. BUT trust me the manual, in drag race is a pain not easy at all. I had a mk 3 focus ST 250HP 270tq fwd manual i went drag racing what a pain My first try was exact same 16.0@95mph. Anyways took me 5 to 6 trys my best was 15.5@95mph all I improved was my 60 foot went to 3.0 to 2.4. I bet his 60 foot was realy high in the 3 wich for awd is bad. I also had a friend the same day he had exact same manual golf r mk7.5, samething his first try also in 16 BUT by the end of the day his best was 13.8@97mph his 60 foot also went from 3.0 to 2.0. Even if your great at the manual and get a great launch you going to loose 0.5 second alone just shifting. The auto will always be one second faster but 16 flat bad.

    • @jonahseabarkrob6237
      @jonahseabarkrob6237 6 місяців тому

      @@totov7673 that manual transmissions are more engaging is my bias, and take away here. 😁😎

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      @@jonahseabarkrob6237 Yes big bias is they bring mercedes auto thinking its a fair race but lets be real mercedes is the worst germain manufactor there not great for performance or drag race. Even a local germain would telk you this.

  • @stevehrocks
    @stevehrocks 8 місяців тому +9

    The M240i XDrive would be the perfect competition. It’s a 2 door coupe.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 8 місяців тому

      With a tune = deadly launch!!

    • @Joseph.11
      @Joseph.11 8 місяців тому +1

      True...but the price is a difference

  • @carnutme4437
    @carnutme4437 4 місяці тому

    The background music at 10.37 is the same as IMSTOKZE in the UK uses.

  • @erniefigueroa20
    @erniefigueroa20 7 місяців тому +5

    Next time, put a better driver in the Golf R. That car is much faster than that…

    • @krane15
      @krane15 3 місяці тому +1

      It wouldn't matter. The manual is only so fast, regardless of how talented the drive is. The many car also has less hp than the automatic. The 2025 are up-to 333hp.

    • @brettdiehl1965
      @brettdiehl1965 2 місяці тому

      @@krane15 It has the same horsepower but less torque. Source: I own a 2024 Golf R 6MT. Love it. But if I wanted the faster car I would've gotten the DSG. As it stands I just love the engagement of driving a manual and I'll tune it to get to over 400 hp to offset the fact that it's manual!

  • @scottmurray3490
    @scottmurray3490 7 місяців тому +1

    This is an apples to oranges comparo with nothing unsuspecting to offer. The point?
    Having owned a 2010 V-8 Camaro & Jeep SRT: both absolute beasts - I can say I love my 2024 Golf R manual (soon to be modified to Stage 1) much more. So very immersive an experience and with a short throw shifter & AWE exhaust upgrades- this will be more bang for the book than should be allowed. Oh & it's the best daily driver on the road...

    • @krane15
      @krane15 3 місяці тому +1

      The price? Car for the dollar and that's it.

  • @g.donuts3551
    @g.donuts3551 8 місяців тому +10

    DSG and simply a stage 1 tune on the Golf R and this would have actually been interesting.

    • @scottroberts5529
      @scottroberts5529 8 місяців тому +3

      I believe unitronic has a stg1 tune for the R brings up the power figures up to 465hp just wth a simple tune

    • @njo9966
      @njo9966 8 місяців тому

      How much would DSG and that tune cost? Silly statement.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 8 місяців тому

      @@njo9966 $1000

    • @kevinrotge4774
      @kevinrotge4774 8 місяців тому +1

      @@njo9966 APR DSG and engine tune would be about $1000 give or take $100.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      🤣 even bone stock auto golf r would smoke the mustang 12.8@108 but this is mk 7.5

  • @Asaphunnna
    @Asaphunnna 8 місяців тому +14

    Bruh yall tripping down here, the comparison is just for fun. Out of curiosity, yall getting ur feelings hurt

  • @MysticChrome4k
    @MysticChrome4k 7 місяців тому +1

    I currently own a 2014 mustang 5.0, so I'm not being biased when I say this but ford could have done a better job with that interior. Last week I sat in a dark horse and I was disappointed in the interior for a 65k-70k car. Honestly I prefer the interior of the 2018-2023 mustangs with the digital cluster gauge. Might trade mine in for one of those lol

  • @nevercedes2070
    @nevercedes2070 8 місяців тому +6

    Worst launch I’ve ever seen on an AWD car

    • @harrymaier5727
      @harrymaier5727 7 місяців тому

      The computer cuts the power when you put it into full throttle and release the clutch. Is not the driver. If it doesn't you break it in 1 week. welcome to the vw world

    • @nevercedes2070
      @nevercedes2070 7 місяців тому +2

      @@harrymaier5727 lol I literally own this car, it doesn’t bog like that , 100% driver issue

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      ​​Yea its a pain manual but a great driver knows not to floor it right way my friend did 13.8@97 yes took him 5 tries but 16 is just probably there only try.

    • @Curly004
      @Curly004 6 місяців тому

      Facts the diver cant drive manuel

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      @@Curly004 Its not easy trust me it took my friend 5 to 6 tries his first try was 16@97mph 60 foot 3.0 All that change was 60 foot went to 2.0 13.8@97mph

  • @paulsnook5408
    @paulsnook5408 10 днів тому

    The dominant figure here is Torque. Torque wins, also important that rpm & hp carry it

  • @ridexdrive
    @ridexdrive 8 місяців тому +3

    I understand sometimes you have to work with what you have, but as soon as you mentioned that the Golf was a manual, I knew you guys couldn't be serious about this video. Or maybe you were, which is even worse. If the point was to demonstrate the value of the Mustang in terms of performance, unfortunately, you missed the mark. First, the 0-60 time of just over 4 seconds that you mentioned for the Golf R applies when it is equipped with the DSG. The DSG only adds $800 to the MSRP but significantly enhances performance. Second, you quoted the Golf R as having 315 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque. Again, this would be correct if you were discussing the DSG version, which is not featured in this video. The 6-speed manual version has less torque than the DSG, at 280 lb-ft. There’s no reason to expect a 315 hp sport compact to be faster than a 480 hp sports car, but if you're going to base the entire video around a particular car, in this case, the Golf R, at least use the car whose stats you are quoting. To reiterate, the car you are discussing (Golf R DSG) and the car you have (Golf R 6-Speed) differ significantly in performance. Mustangs and pony cars in general have always offered great performance for the dollar. That's not newsworthy. However, trying to make a point and then choosing the worst example of a car that is already at a disadvantage doesn’t help your case. If the goal is to show how fast a car can be compared to similarly priced cars, the Mustang, as optioned in this video, is actually more expensive than the Golf. I'm not criticizing the inclusion of these cars in a video together, but at least make an effort to properly inform viewers about what's happening. Additionally, continuing to discuss how much faster the Mustang is, as if there isn’t a clear reason why the Golf R ran a 16-second quarter mile (maybe 15 in better condition), is hard to understand. Motorweek recorded a 12.5-second quarter mile at 111 mph in the Golf R. Car and Driver reported the same time as Motorweek, and Carwow reported a 12.3 second quarter. The Mustang in this video ran a 13.6-second quarter mile (assume a 12.6 in better conditions). Don’t skirt around the issue; address it directly. Otherwise, thanks for the time and effort put into these videos. I just wish there was a bit more purpose and understanding behind what is going on here.

    • @evital7527
      @evital7527 8 місяців тому +1

      I don't even think they used launch control on the Mercedes.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 8 місяців тому

      You couldn't have said this better. You saved me from writing the paragraph myself 😂

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 8 місяців тому

      @@evital7527 This is correct. The Mercedes should've beat the Mustang from a dig if they used launch control and actually started at the same time. The guy started late AND didn't use launch control..

  • @XDKX101
    @XDKX101 6 місяців тому

    For the people complaining - the mustang is rwd and the golf awd. On an unprepped surface thats good enough of a trade off for the manual in the golf vs auto in the mustang

  • @Franz-vg6hy
    @Franz-vg6hy 8 місяців тому +19

    Dear TFL ,dont mix appels with bananas, they are not the same Fruit ,Ultra fast Automatic with Launch Control against a manual transmission??

    • @zeke63
      @zeke63 8 місяців тому

      The Mustang doesn't have launch control.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 8 місяців тому

      What launch control ?

    • @layne4376
      @layne4376 8 місяців тому +3

      @@zeke63 Yes it does. You can set the launch at several different RPM points.

    • @gman3563
      @gman3563 8 місяців тому +4

      It's not supposed to be apples to apples. That's boring. The real world exists for a reason. If you rolled up to a light and wanted to race to the next one what would happen. That's what's cool about these comparisons. They are both 46k and built they way they are built

    • @DD-dj4jr
      @DD-dj4jr 8 місяців тому +1

      Same price……different ice cream flavors…..great content!

  • @brettdiehl1965
    @brettdiehl1965 2 місяці тому

    I own the Golf. I highly doubt the 'stang can keep up with its all wheel drive torque vectoring system when you get off a straight line and actually start turning like you would on a track or in the real world. Just tune the Golf to Stage 1 or Stage 2 so it also makes 400+ horsepower and it will be as good or better than a muscle car in pretty much any arena.

  • @lightsout6552
    @lightsout6552 8 місяців тому +5

    Doesn't the guy driving the Mercedes know how to brake boost?

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 8 місяців тому

      He clearly doesn't

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      Actualy he did great its a mercedes thats how it is, there not great in performance. They did great to bring another auto but still not a fair race. In fact in germany they buy audi volkswagen bmw porsche lambo. Alot of german avoid mercedes bc they know its not great in performance its actualy more for class and daily drive.

  • @Drako_93550
    @Drako_93550 8 місяців тому +2

    Ford > VW

  • @MichelDominique
    @MichelDominique 8 місяців тому +4

    Not exactly a fair fight but this in a way proves that there's no replacement for displacement in a straight line.

  • @landroverSV
    @landroverSV 7 місяців тому +1

    Still would take a VW over
    F ound
    O n
    R oad
    D ead
    Go on a twisty track and then see who takes who! VW MK4 R32 24V VR6!

  • @aallien
    @aallien 8 місяців тому +3

    Agh, no DSG on the Golf. I’d still have the Golf R (with DSG) with the APR stage 1 tune. Better fit and finish on the Golf.

    • @FB6K24Z7
      @FB6K24Z7 7 місяців тому

      Lol better fit and finish on a VW 😂😂😂all i see is plastic Garbage 🗑️ inside the cabin even a damm honda civic has a better made and better looking interior nowadays then that golf 😂lol vw clowns these days

  • @TREXGAMES42
    @TREXGAMES42 8 місяців тому

    As someone who owns a 24 Mustang GT premium 6MT IF you can only afford/have 1 vehicle Golf R is easily the better choice. However if you have a daily and a second "fun/weekend" car Mustang with a Manual in my opinion is by far the better option....and yes the 10speed is faster but the 6MT again in my opinion is "funner" to drive.

  • @Zwikster
    @Zwikster 8 місяців тому +3

    Less shots of the drivers face driving and more shots of the actual race

  • @lffit
    @lffit 8 місяців тому +2

    Mustang for me, but I don't live in the US, here in rural France, the back roads are narrow so it's the VW or a small Ford!

  • @Empok_Nor
    @Empok_Nor 8 місяців тому +4

    Try comparing apples to apples guys.

  • @Isha048
    @Isha048 8 місяців тому +1

    I don't care the performance, it can be the last car, but the sound of the Mustang gives goosebumps; that's enough for me to buy that car, although the interior is questionable. I don't like any electric cars, not even hybrid ones. Thanks for the video.

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 8 місяців тому +7

    So fake, the Golf can be way waaay faster than this!

  • @PKDesigns2011
    @PKDesigns2011 8 місяців тому +1

    these newer mustangs really do surprise, all and all neat race, Ty for sharing.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому

      BRO its not a fair race if they bring the golf r auto version he would have done 12.5 🤣 one second faster than the mustang but with only 300HP

  • @MarkRenn
    @MarkRenn 8 місяців тому +5

    This is why manuals are going away. Slowest shifts. Worst performance.

    • @hwirtwirt4500
      @hwirtwirt4500 8 місяців тому

      Manuals are going away because most Gen-Z's can't drive them.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 8 місяців тому +1

      Manuals are fun but 90% of people don't know how to race/shift properly in them.

  • @richardbrown1553
    @richardbrown1553 7 місяців тому

    Does the GT Premium have a better interior?

  • @norwegianblue2017
    @norwegianblue2017 8 місяців тому +3

    Mustang all day. Especially where I live which is close to sea level and never snows, rarely rains. Anyone who would pass on that Coyote V8 for a nicer interior isn't really a car person in my book.

  • @drluvmuffins3696
    @drluvmuffins3696 7 місяців тому

    Coming from the Elantra N, I can't help but love my new s650 Mustang GT. Coming from that Hyundai Ecobox, the interior of my base GT is still a pretty decent upgrade. (far less creaky plastic)

  • @dnice362
    @dnice362 8 місяців тому +3

    Cmon auto vs auto

    • @joshc606
      @joshc606 8 місяців тому

      You can provide the Auto for them???

    • @ridexdrive
      @ridexdrive 8 місяців тому

      @@joshc606 If they don't have an Auto then the least they could do is not quote stats from the DSG Golf R to set the entire video up. Also maybe explaining to viewers the Sahara-sized gap in performance you get with the DSG vs. the 6-speed. It's neither informative nor genuine to go about it the way they did.

  • @evko28
    @evko28 7 місяців тому

    Conventional auto vs DSG should be the comparison, or both manual. Dual clutch and AWD in Golf is something else off the line. DSG variant also gets more torque stock.

  • @tactical_potato81
    @tactical_potato81 8 місяців тому +2

    There's just something about the sound and feel of a good old-fashioned American V8

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 6 місяців тому +1

      Slow!! not impressed 13.6 😂 my bros A3 quattro auto stage 1 does 13.0@106 only 280HP 😂 now his stage 2 12.3@111 328HP only.

  • @dy8863
    @dy8863 18 днів тому

    Why wouldn't you have gotten the DSG Golf R for this review/comparison?

  • @leecook7904
    @leecook7904 8 місяців тому

    More random car races like this. Different than other channels. I dig it.

  • @wesd3742
    @wesd3742 3 місяці тому

    Golf is what I bought. Manual as well. Love it. Who cares about 1/4 times anyway. These cars are all fun, just get out and drive 'em.

  • @Pkari
    @Pkari 3 місяці тому

    That screen and capacitor buttons in the VW may look nice but they’re way more frustrating than the Ford’s. I’ve lived with both and it’s not comparable. The Golf 8.5 reverts to steering wheel buttons and is meant to improve the software.

  • @bribri2694
    @bribri2694 7 місяців тому

    Why didn’t you get a DSG? It’s well known it’s faster off the line than the stick. Or the Mustang in a stick.

  • @tritchie6272
    @tritchie6272 8 місяців тому +2

    My take, the Mustang for weekend fun,and the VW for the daily driver family car. The Mercedes while it has a Pretty interior, for some reason doesn't appeal to me enough to spend that much on.

  • @doug7547
    @doug7547 8 місяців тому +1

    Everyone complaining about manual vs automatic. When the turbo and awd also play a hige factor, especially at that elevation.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 8 місяців тому

      All meaningless with a poor driver.

  • @hondacar
    @hondacar 7 місяців тому

    An automatic Golf R might have still lost, but the outcome would likely have been tighter. As for a manual Mustang versus a DSG Golf R, it's hard to determine which would come out on top. Perhaps that match-up might be for another day.

  • @tbutz21
    @tbutz21 7 місяців тому +1

    DSG R is almost a full second faster on the quarter mile than the manual.
    You guys can do better.

  • @chriswannamaker7930
    @chriswannamaker7930 7 місяців тому +1

    How fast and how far you can put your foot to the floor doesn't make one car better than another. The golf would eat it on a track. The mustang is stone axe technology incomparison to the VW.

  • @golamrumman
    @golamrumman 7 місяців тому

    If you had the automatic mustang, why not compare it to the dsg on golf r? It is a no-brainer comparison, the results may not have varied a lot but atleast it would have made more sense.

  • @thomasjohnson6808
    @thomasjohnson6808 6 місяців тому

    I did not know that 486 was almost 500. Thanks for the useful information.

  • @GenSparks
    @GenSparks 8 місяців тому

    I love the mustang gt I really do, I now have a golf R manual and will go back to a mustang at a later time bought it because it was the last of the manuals. The golf R traction control is very restrictive and combine that with slow shift I understand why they did a 16sec 1/4 mile. There is no way with the traction control off and in special mode that you would have done a 16s 1/4 even at that elevation hell a regular civic can do that. You need to launch that thing at 5k and shift it like you mean it. They will do low 13 high 12 the golf R engine is underrated will put about 30x hp at the wheels while the mustang will be around 390 just an fyi. Also the mustang traction control is way way less restrictive will still spin the tires under full acceleration.

  • @ekaddo
    @ekaddo 8 місяців тому

    Great shot, on launch, in slow motion, showing the rear suspension load up

  • @abc123fhdi
    @abc123fhdi 8 місяців тому

    low 4s for the golf seems unlikely as that's the same as an AWD M340i which has 382 horsepower and 369 lb ft of torque. Maybe it weighs more but still not enough to where 315 horsepower and 295 lb ft of torque would allow it to match that acceleration.

    • @GenSparks
      @GenSparks 8 місяців тому

      They are underrated around 30x at the wheels. Thank you.

  • @nickelass427
    @nickelass427 6 місяців тому

    I have a Golf R7.5. The 8R has some goodies I wouldn't mind but I may wait for a year or so and find a used one with low miles.. I know it isn't the fastest car. Obviously the Mustang has more power. But it doesn't have one thing the VW has. MPG.. 😆 Fun car to drive, practical DD.. If I had a V8 I'd be at the pump EOD. Love them both for different reasons. Big fan of the Terminator '03 SVT 😮‍💨