Nasir Khusraw & The Reconciliation of Science and Religion
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2019
- In this video I talk about the 11th century Ismaili philosopher Nasir Khusraw and his major work "Jami' al-hikmatayn" or "The union of the two wisdoms".
For a more proper introduction to Isma'ilism, check out my previous video:
• The Isma'ilis and The ...
Nasir w khusraw once came to our village chitral ( NORTHERN PAKISTAN CHITRAL GARMCHASMA ) at our living house for dawat e ismailism I feel very lucky we accept the dawat and now I'm a proud ismaili and very thank you to nasir e khusraw for his spiritual knowledge
How??
@@Intjwithocd he is talking about the past where Nasir khusraw traveled to spread Ismailism .not like he met him alive 😂
I'm completely hooked to ur Muslim philosophy related videos. I love them. Keep producing quality content.
Why
Likewise!
Me, too. Fascinating stuff.
Me too Mr. Aditya Mohan, U seems to be from india, I am also from India, kerala state. I am absolutely drowned with this man & his understanding of different religions.
Great talk, really enjoyed the way you delivered. As an Ismaili I have already read about NK over the last many years but your way of coveying to all those who do not know him at all is excellent. All faiths are one Faith and we learn to love humanity as Ismailis because we are an actively practicing faith taking all the excellence from all faiths.
Your chanell is a great help to know so many schools of spiritual thoughts.
I have watched your videos and your research is great. I am a proud ismaili muslim. Peer nasar e khusraw had a great impact on me.
Love your Videos ❤️
Indeed Nasir e Khusraw is the Ruby Of Badakshan thanks for elaborating his teachings, stay blessed brother
Ruby of Badakshaan yes
Burmese ruby with ruetile needles apparent causing the sheen or silk
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So also sapphires blue yellow green white -kasheri bs
Stars with asterism
Esoteric and allegorical--- according to Sunnis a heretic hence to Badakshan
Anal Haq of Mansur Hillaj. ?
Thankyou
Aham Brahasmi of Sankara Swamy Vivekananda Ramana Maharshi of Arunachalam
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Nasir Khosrow was born in the city of Qobodiyon, which is now a suburb of Balkh province, in present-day Afghanistan. Like Zoroaster, Rumi and dozens of other famous Persian poets, scholars and philosophers, he too was a Balkhi. In Persian, he is always referred to as Qobodiyoni or Balkhi. The exact date of his birth is not known, but it is believed that he lived in the 11th century AD during the Ghaznavid period. Ghaznavid was also a Dynasty that was based in Ghazni, another province of modern day Afghanistan. Towards the end of his life, Nasir Khosrow, went and died in Badakhshan.
I just want to let you know how much I appreciate you putting in the work that you're putting in you're saving a lot of lives for we are as one one world 1 people One Tribe I love you family blessings from God most high
We used to study his poems and biography every year at school in our Persian language subject. Actually, the school that I studied was named after him Hakim Naser Khesraw Balkhi.
It's amazing that even after a thousand year these scholars are still alive.
Very interesting talk. I had heard of Nasir Khusraw of course as I am Iranian, but your in dept understanding of his thinking and his work is impressive. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Today morning i am blessed ! By gaining some extra knowledge about our peer Nasir Khusraw and ismailism.
Thank you so much keep it up bro and i also wanna thanks to @Bold science having great knowledge shared in the conversation.
I really appreciate your research about Nasir Khisraw,it is quite amazing also, and raise many questions also, according to other scholars Nasir Khisraw was Hafeez Quran,who learnt Quran by heart when he was 7 years old,even before reaching to 40 yrs of age,he had certain command over the theology and Greek philosophy that, the people of other faiths christian, priests and Rabbins of jews were approaching to him to learn from him about their faiths.His awakeing for the vehement search for true successor of the prophet might came in the second phase after his 40 years; but NK had been pious person from his childhood.His luxurious life and as an inebriated man in antecedent, before of his 40 years merely seems iconic before the rising the light of Imam of time,in the heart of NK.According to him ( Lail Israr Budam Shams-u-zuha shudam) he consider his life just like a dark night before meeting the Imam of the time,and after meeting the IMAM of the time he became iluminated like the sun.
Mr. Filip Holm, You did a Fantastic job with your presentation about Nasir Khusraw. Indeed Nasir Khusraw was a man of wisdom and knowledge of his time and one of his kind in the subject of Islamic Theology. Just want to mention that He was originally from Afghanistan and was born in the province of Balkh, city of Mazar-e- Sharif. I had the privilege of reading a few of his books, namely Wajhideen, Safarnama, Zadul Musafirin, Khwan al Ikhwan and Jami al hikmatayn. It was wonderful to listen to you.
My hat off to you for your dedication to the subject and inspiration of others, specially youth.
Thank you!
He was born in Qabodiyon, a village in Bactria in the ancient Greater Iranian province of Khorasan,now in modern Tajikistan and died in Yamagan, now Afghanistan.
True he was born Qubadian present day Tajikistan. There a blessed place called 44 springs I visit it in my childhood.
Fascinating. Individuals from all world religions have been breaking through literal teachings since the beginning of the nested metaphor. Always, so many called and so few are chosen.
I know Nasir Khosraw by his poetry and Indeed his was one of the greatest thinkers of his time. Thanks for sharing
This video provides great insight into the philosophy and thought of the Fatimid Ismaili Dai and scholar Nasir-i Khusraw.
What I appreciate is the "cultural studies" approach that the author takes more generally in his other videos also. The way in which Filip is able to synthesise information, situate the topic within its socio-historical context and present it in a comprehensible manner is commendable.
Having undertaken my own research at the University of Edinburgh on the doctrine of the Qaim/Qiyamah in Ismaili Muslim thought, I also explored the thought of Nasir-i Khusraw in this regard. However, the current work (Jami al-Hikmatayn) had not been published at the time. This video has inspired me to read the work and for this I congratulate the author.
Very kind words my friend, thanks a lot!
That's an incredibly interesting subject! For how long did you study?
@@LetsTalkReligion I conducted my Masters research for 1 year and submitted my thesis "The Qaim and Qiyama Doctrines in Fatimid and Alamut Ismailism: The Evolution of a Doctrine" in 2012. Subsequently I udnertook a double Masters degree programme at the Institute of Ismaili Studies in conjunction with the University College London's Institute of Education (UCL-IOE). I obtained a Master of Teaching (MTeach) and a Master of Arts (MA) in Education (Muslim Societies and Civilisations).
That sounds like a very interesting thesis! Is it publlished anywhere? Would love to read it sometime
@@LetsTalkReligion I'm sharing a link to my page on Academia.edu which has my thesis as well as some of my other papers which you may be if interest to you in the field of Ismaili Studies. Would love to keep the conversation going. If you have any questions don't hesitate to reach out. N.
@@Noddy22588 Awesome! I'll check it out!
Your pronunciation of Arabic is amazing 😍
I appreciate ur dinamic resurch on Ismail sect
This sect mordren Islam in light of Quran and Hadis
Ismaili community ara role modle for all human they respect all other community for their faith
Your resurch on ismailies is marvelous and found strong interpretation of Islam and ismaili according to Quran
Rightly said
The Assassins disagree.
@@lambert801 The Assassins were criminals!
@@lambert801 bro study they didnt kill a person for his religion they even avoided assassination's many times by leaving a letter of warning. the assassins' assasinated the ones who were wrongfully stopping ismailism from spreading by harming ismailis
I always enjoy your talk
You inspire me to read more and your clear and meaningful way of delivering the subject at hand is admirable
Please continue these presentations
Thank you
You are awesome ! Lot of study and knowledges about Ismailis Thanks!
Blessed To Have Find Out Your Channel.. Love 😍 From Kashmir
I really enjoy your presentations
You inspire us to read the book you discuss
Please keep up the great work you are doing
l share your talks with many people
Thank you again
May you stay Blessed
Proud to be an ismaili. Thank you for sharing and plz make another vedio on NASIR KHUSRAW THE RUBY OF BADAKHSHAN.
Thank you brother for sharing this wisdom and i appreciate your lovely work !
Greetings, Nasir Khusraw, as far as I know is mainly known in Iran as a poet. I also was familiar with him having a book on travel journey (safar-nameh), however I didn't know he was also a philosopher. Thank you!
You should check out another treatise on Philosophical theology by Nasir Khusraw. Called Knowledge and Liberation. It can be found through the institute of Ismaili studies. Thank you for your unbiased work and commitment to knowledge and education
I feel like listening to your talk non stop,whether I understand or not,whether I agree or not.
Your look so detached but at the same time sympathetic and understanding.
Are from karnataka
I would say reasonable, open minded, scholarly.
Very nicely presented introduction of Nasir Khusrwa. I did not know about this brilliant mind.
Thank you Sir,for the amazing video.
I love your content.
Thanks for making this video. Great work!
Thnks brother for such an amazing information about ismailism
Loveeee your channel! Great video 🤗
Dear Flip, great work.
Thank you! Glad you like it!
Im ismaili muslim from Northern areas of Pakistan and nasir al khisrow R.A is our pir or hujat....
Hasankhan Bhai,
Ya Ali Madad.
@@NoorAli-hl8bo mola Ali madad
Great work bro and you have wonderfully done it.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. As a student in Kabul I read about him part of school's Farsi literature but never had a chance to know his world views specifically the topic of God.
Could you please make a video on neo-platonism, what is it, and how it influenced Ismailism?
Danke Schön .Allah bless you I love N.Kkusraw
Beautiful commentary. Coming from the age of Mutazila, before fundamentalism destroyed the development of science under Islam. Many of his observations are very interesting.
Thanks for enlightening us, acknowledged I had not known Nasir Khusroo,
Nasir Khusrow seems to be highly intelligent with a mind of his own, person.
His concept of Heaven and Hell as not being physical does have an almost believable spark in it. I would love to read the book ' Between Reason and Revelation'
Thank you.
Great work.well done
Thank you!
Wonderful work 👍
I'm addicted to your religion teaching Brother Holm!
I love it so much nice speech u r reason also nice ..god blouse
Thank you!
Excellent.Very informative.
Awesome video. Interesting thinker.
Highly appreciated 👍 thanks for your wonderful work♥️
I'm very happy you like it. Thank YOU! :)
Thank you for the video. Khusro is very famous in the Indian subcontinent as a poet .
Please don't get confused between Abu'l Hasan Yamīn ud-Dīn Khusrau (1253-1325) and Abu Mo’in Hamid ad-Din Nasir ibn Khusraw al-Qubadiani (1004 - 1070).
There was also another poet by the name amir khisraw.....they are different people.
great job
Proud be ismaili muslim
Same here. Blessed.
What is population of Ismails in the world ?
@@rostamdastan9272 around 15 million
@@rostamdastan927225 Million
Thanks dear god bless you
You r doing a good job
Thank you so much for this ❤❤❤
I recently watch a video related to this "Nasir e khasraw life was similar to Pythagoras". 😮❤
Great work! Re. your note at 5:36, Badakhshan is a region (split between current Tajikistan and Afghanistan). I am not sure if any town then or now is called Badakhshan.
Badakhshan is an afghan region. It has border with Tajikistan and China
@@tkdleeds Badakhshan ain’t an afghan region lol and Nasir Khusraw was originally from modern Tajikistan
Ngl ur video is so interesting for someone that lazy to read or studying but love to learning thx u so much 🙆🤍
PROUD TO BE ISMAILI FATIMI SHIA MUSLIM
Very impressive.
More excellence!
Great video 👍
Nasir Khusraw Was born in Balkh whick is a province of Afghanistan today and he buried is Yamgan valley in Badkhshan province of Afghanistan. All of these area were greater Khorasan.
proud to be Ismaili
kon sa teer mara tu ne proud, by chance ismili grany ma paida huwa a, ab tak ap ka ap kia contribution hai humanity k lia only pride k elawa
@@Humaniterian.. Namaz is parastish of iblees
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I know him from the story of eagle and arrow. It's now a famous saying that akbar shah of India even recited.
Az mast ke bar mast. It's of our own doing.
Hi filip
I am impressed from your research about nasir khusraw. Great work
Can you tell me what makes you study about nasir khusraw?
Hi!
I study Islam and Muslim cultures on an academic level, and have been fascinated with different schools of thought within Islam, the different philosophers and so on. Isma'ilism is incredibly interesting, and as I was learning more about that movement in particular, I came across Nasir Khusraw as he is one of the most famous Isma'ilis.
@@LetsTalkReligion keep up good work 😊
@@pSalmanKarim Thank you, I will :)
Hi Filip I am your new subscriber, keep up the good work, you are the treatment for disease of ignorance among different believers, great work on Nasir khusru, also there were other ismaili pirs who were in India like Pir Satgur Noor, Pir shums,Pir saddarddin, pir HasanKabirddin this pir are also the descendant of Hazrat Imam Ali from Hazrat Hassan ibn Ali side,
You are intelligent
The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy claims that "Khusraw converted to the Ismaili faith at the age of 40 after careful study."
Yes of course he is a legend of his time and highly spiritually enlightened being no different from the messengers of God. So what part do you consider it to be wrong?
It sounds he was great man god bless him
I've never heard of Nasir Khusraw before, probably because traditionally I don't belong to Shia branch although I don't denominate myself except that I can say that I'm more of batini than Zahiri and more familiar with Sufis which have so much in common with Ismailism( I did some readings and comparisons with these two groups by myself) from my point of view However it is amazing how much ( just seeing some quotes from Nasir's book in this video) I have same or similar views with him and with secret group called Ihwan ul Safa
sufies do not have any murshid to guide them continuesly,
ismailies have one.
every learner or a traveler needs a continues guidance in simple
I’m really finding this discussion of Islamic philosophy, especially the Ishmaelites, fascinating. Can you recommend any books for an interested reader who has no Arabic whatsoever?
Read the memoirs of Agakhan ,you'll learn a lot about Islam in this book,
Undoubtedly the book about reconciliation is important for understanding of the history of ideas, but I'd rather read the Safarnama ;-)
One of the more notable person of the same time was Al-Muayyad-Shirazi
In the whole islamic world its the Shia scholars who have mastery over rationalizaing the theology. The best MUTKALIMEEN.
Is this available in English translation?
I've been watching your videos for a while and respect your work. Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind, what's your religion or which one you like the most personally?
Nasir Khosrow was born in the city of Qobodiyon, which is now a suburb of Balkh province, in present-day Afghanistan. The exact date of his birth is not known, but it is believed that he lived in the 11th century AD during the Ghaznavid period. Ghaznavids was also a Dynasty that was based in Ghazni, another province of modern day Afghanistan.
He was born in Balkh present day Afghanistan.
I really enjoy your videos don't understand why you are not Muslim
Thanks for your vidio about Pir Nasir Khusrow but I am quit surprised at the part where you feel funny, old fashioned of Pir Nasir. I belive and would suggest you to do more and more and more research becasue there is deep essence in every words, sentences, sayings of Pir Nasir. They are not old fashioned they are ever green and authentic. Plzz do more vidio thanks
Excellent review of NK's book and philosophical underpinnings. IMO, the metaphors offered by NK would be more reconcilable to our youth today that taking the classical stories literally.
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Hey can you give me a link for the book ?
www.amazon.co.uk/Between-Reason-Revelation-Reconciled-Translations/dp/1780761325/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Between+reason+and+revelation&qid=1600757373&sr=8-1
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On po natsianalnost bil Tadzhikom, rodilsya v rayon Kubadiyan, I uner v Badakhshan
Islamic history, a rabbit hole that i haven't gone down. If I'm not back by this time next month, call the authorities.
The idea that science is a way to understand creation and that God or the Gods made people curious about the world intentionally and want us to study it fits well with a lot of religions, I think
Nasir Khusraw is consistent with Islam in his perspective on the role and necessity of the use of intellect in the practice of Islam. The literalists are not consistent with Islam because their view of abandoning the intellectual search for knowledge has rejected the Hadith of the Holy Prophet Mohamed (SWS) who asked believers to go to China if needed to acquire knowledge. It is clear.
Thats a fabricated hadith
"If it is justice to condone an injury..." Surely some other translation of "condone" is meant here because as it stands it does not make sense. Perhaps "feel compassion for?"
I had the same thoughts. Maybe he was talking about some kind of invasive surgery, or maybe he saw the punishments in Sharia as means to "help" the sinners.
Jafar Al sadiq is 6th imam... Not 5th... The conflict is on 7th imam...
Some see him as the 5th, like the nizari Ismailis. It depends on if they consider Hasan to be an Imam or not.
Ismailis also consider H Hassan as Imam, according to Ismailis Imamat consists of many types, among these types Imame Mustaqar(permanent) is the one who, s chain remains continued through his offspring, and Mustowde(temporary) is temporary Imam, although he, also bears the light of Imamat, that's why according to Ismailis Imam Hussain is the 2nd Imam and thus Imam jafr sadiq is the 6th one, mustaqr Imamat accordingly.
Ismaili consider Hazrat Hassan as 2nd Pir ,first Pir being Rasullalah, for that reason after Imam Ali R.A, Imam Hussain,Imam Zainulabedin, Imam Mohamadinil Bakir, Imam Jaffar Sadik, 5th Imam and Imam Ismail whom Ismaili believe as 6th Imam, but for twelvers Imam Jaffar Sadik is 6th Imam , twelvers consider Hazrat Hassan as 2nd Imam.
Similarity between Vedantic Nirgun Brahman and Unknowable God of Khusraw
love the videos and the knowledge. but Khorasan is city in Iran. it even still is. FYI
Thanks! The city is, yes. But Khorasan is also the name of the greater region which also extends into countries like Afghanistan.
Ancient Khorasan consistent of three major cities, Nishapore in Iran, Herat in Afghanistan and Marw (Mary) in Turkmanistan,
@@LetsTalkReligioni love your videos but found it odd you never mentioned how he was of Persian descent.
“Abu Mo’in Hamid ad-Din Nasir ibn Khusraw al-Qubadiani or Nāsir Khusraw Qubādiyānī Balkhi (Persian: ناصر خسرو قبادیانی, romanized: Nasir Khusraw Qubadiani) also spelled as Nasir Khusrow and Naser Khosrow (1004 - after 1070 CE) was a Persian poet,[2] philosopher, Isma'ili scholar,[3][4] traveler and one of the greatest writers in Persian literature.”
Nasir Khusraw like Al-Ghazali had crossed a "_threshold_" making them more Muslim than Iranian, and thus, fascinating and appreciated as they are today, they are not as celebrated in society compared to other great cultural figures in Iran's history.
I have to disagree. He was certainly a devout Muslim, but he was also a top-notch poet of the Persian language, and even wrote some of his prose works in Persian (which was very unusual at the time). He never saw his Persian heritage as opposed to his religion. In fact, I believe he was more Persian than he was Muslim. His ideas, philosophy, character, are all so very Persian. I'll even go as far as to say his Islam is very much framed within his "Persian unconscious."
All these diverse religious scholars may be interesting but the degree of their certainty and their similar attitude toward what or who they consider false, (but on the other hand cannot prove), just further and further confirms the Qur'ans perjorative opinion over and over on scholars and traditionalists. It says in one place with perjorative humor that religious scholars are about as useful as a donkey with a load full of books, in other places, it pleads not to compete in theories one can't prove but compete in good deeds or piety instead. In other places it warns how it has been giving the same CORE MESSAGE over and over since the beginning thru having sent messengers to every nation (we make NO distinction between them) and it is their subsequent competing scholars and traditionalists who come in to screw things all up and sow mass confusion among the more simple minded souls who really most of them just want help to become better people (EXCEPT for those who wish to FEEL better or higher then others instead).
It is not nouns or truths that will help this goal but which VERB-SKILLS one strives for or ignores and doesn't. In another place it just comes right out and warns the majority are usually wrong. It even warns how to and how not to interpret it's content saying "we" have two types of versus here-in the clear and the allegorical and we ain't telling which is which; but beware of the scholars who twist the allegorical this way and/or that to sway others to follow THEM as one's guide to God/G-d/Allah instead of Fatihah's warning "To you alone do we ask for guidance/help."
There are two types of religious cherry-picking in human ego's trying to one-up each other in so-called "TRUTH" each and all of them seeking followers (their little kingdoms) from those who feel less wise or intelligent and they FENCE-OFF and enclose their "followers" with one "true-doctrine" or another that sooner or later too too often creates all of histories religious murders and tortures and other hateful consequences.
IF IF - Fatihah and Bismillah are actually the abbreviation and guide to the balance of the Qur'an then some might see that perhaps all these opinions and doctrines are like the arguments over describing The Rabb (the Evolutioner/guide of all worlds) who claims no kind of opinion or statement or description of ANY KIND is valid nor should be attempted. "To YOU ALONE, TO YOU ALONE, ALONE (AS IN NO NO OTHER) DO WE ASK FOR HELP (guidance).
WHY does Fatihah close with "nor those who have strayed?" Strayed from what? The Path.
Might that make just the Bismillah alone to be that path, those verbs, NOT NOUNS, that are the goal of the right or straight PATH and who we are to become when our death becomes the birth canal from which we emerge thru and out from this dream world into the real eternal world, where justice and mercy and graciousness are apparently - no longer - OPTIONAL. Can why - no longer - optional explain one's perception of a heaven or hell. What does one's heart truly most desire to BECOME, and how to become, what GOAL does one most desire as defined by our earthly choices, what we do or not do, what we struggle for or not struggle for. For those who make the struggle to become to the greatest degree possible to become the Most Gracious and Most Merciful - we are able to achieve - (and Qur'an reminds "we don't expect more from one then they are able) and THAT is ones strongest desire to spiritually Evolute to over time. . . . ?
Qur'an also reminds us that the Rabb of all worlds condemns NO one but it is US that self-defines our hearts by what we most struggle for - thus in the next life, the eternal life it will be upon /THAT path ("heaven" or "hell"?) we have in this earthly gestation self-determined our spiritual-embryo's to be upon - we have blessed or condemned ourselves to peace and joy or pain - no entity is sending us to one place or another but we will have sent ourselves. Thus - even those who stray - to the extent their strongest desire is to not stray then it will be those who spirits will in the next world be ever guided until achievement.
The ar-Rahmaan guides who s/he will or won't (the reluctant or oppositional ones).
He was born in Balkh and died in badakhshan in Afghanistan
Badakhshan is not a town. Its a region in Tajikistan and Afghanistan.
Hashwiyyn is a term used to describe people who add sentences in a book or write a book and name after someone else. The Karramites are known also as al Hashwiyyn because they did that to many Sunni books and scholars. This is done to make false evidence then prove that the Karramites are the real traditionalist even though they were a modern school at their time. Their school has no isnad to any traditional school so they claimed that Imam Ahmad (who is known as the imam of traditionalists) was a (prattling) literalist like them. Later on, Ibn al-Jawzi and other people wrote books to make it clear for others that imam Ahmed is not a Mujasim like the Karramites (someone who believes that God has a physical body). I do not know a book in English that discuss this but in Arabic we have dafa' shobah al-tajsim دفع شبه التجيسم
Khorasan isn't today Tajikistan, it is north eastern Iran, western Afghanistan and all of Turkmenistan, Farghane is Tajikistan. it is my suggest, call him Naser not Nasir, they are two different names.
You should research Al-Biruni to learn the view of a scientist about the dispute withe anti-scientific religious fanatizm.
Where does a rasool or a nabi die in the Quran during the destruction of persistent rejectors and wrongdoers?
I think hakim naser khusraw balkhi was born in Balkh. Balkh is in Afghanistan and not in Tajikistan.
Interesting, his biography makes him seem like a Shia Ghazali.