Mesa Boogie Limited Edition King Snake - Carlos & Randy 2013
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- MESA/Boogie King Snake LIMITED EDITION 1x12 Snakeskin Combo
www.mesaboogie....
The MESA/Boogie King Snake is a Limited Edition, custom-covered amplifier, built in tribute to the Original Snakeskin that put MESA and a young Carlos Santana on the map with it's revolutionary and instantly identifiable tone.
MESA Founder Randall Smith and Carlos Santana got together on October 29, 2013 to discuss the history and the inspirations behind the pioneering of all-tube, cascading preamp high-gain that the Mark I made famous. It's a sound, feel, sustain and functionality that Carlos had long been seeking and many guitarists since have found as their ultimate voice for punchy, sparkling clean sounds and unmistakeable, singing Boogie solo tones.
For more information on this hand-signed and numbered, extremely Limited Edition production of the MESA/Boogie King Snake, check out the King Snake page for details:
www.mesaboogie....
Boogie is my favorite amp.So fat, so clean, so saturated,that's what I like about them.A boogie and maybe a wah will get you through any gig.You don't know how good (or bad) you sound until you play through one.When Carlos and Randy collaborated it was an epiphany.
"You don't know how good (or bad) you sound until... That is SO true! These amps are unforgiving in that respect.
Been into Mesa Boogie since the beginning. My friends who could afford them would let me jam on theirs! I found my own soul my own music in Mesa Boogie's have never left! I currently own the road king version 2 with Road King cabinets, and the amazingly beautiful Electra Dyne, 2x12. I use two different speakers in my 2x12, the C 90 and the V 30. When I roll off the cleans brighten up, when I roll on it gets nasty! I met Randall many years ago and hung out with him and his race cars. Amazing time! Got to hang out with him at NAMM as well. Can't wait to hear this new beast! I'll probably have to get one. As for Mr Santana? I love you like most in the world! Combination made in heaven, sonic heaven! Peace, DVB
Love Santana! His playing style is so fluid and natural for me. I love playing his music!
I just received my King Snake amp. An outstanding amp with an fantastic touch response. Mesa Boogie really did a great job with this amp.
Thanks so much,vncstudio - So glad you're digging it!
8 yrs later , still your favorite amp? What equipment do you still use from that day ?
@@sparkyguitar0058 I still use two Mark Is (77 original and reissue) and the Kingsnake. I have different speakers in each so they sound different and work with different guitars.
I am a lucky owner of a King Snake which I got at Station Music near Munich....I drove over there from Munich, it was the last one in Germany. I drove two hours to the shop and it took me literally 5 min buying it. Been using Boogie since I bought my fist one Mk Iic in hardwood in 1989....the King Snake is my go to amp each and every day in the studio.....
Thank you Carlos... I may have sometimes questioned why you don't expand your playing but your spirituality and purity I always respected. What you said about John M. was really a showcase of humility but I have to say he may be up on Coltrane theory but you are the one with Coltrane's feeling, intuition and soul.
Carlos once said that he can pick up any guitar and play through any amp and still have the Santana sound.It's the MAN!
Of course - how could it not, he is Santana! He doesn't sound as good with the Dumbles & Hemp cone speakers though; on the album when he introduced them (was that Shaman?) I was surprised to read that none of my favorite songs featured the new amps & speakers but all the others did, which I thought was interesting. I guess I can understand him wanting to try new things but really he had such wonderful tones at his finger tips already, why mess with it.
Two of my favorite things from the hippie era: Santana and the MkI.
I usually don't go in for corporate self-hype, but this is really interesting.
I would love to hear them talk about the original Boogie built into a Princeton cab. And just the days of hangin out in SF in those days.
1) I totally appreciate this interview. Love, Devotion, and Surrender is one of my top favorites of all time. I feel that period of time became lost when what was called Fusion became smooth jazz....
2) I was looking at the Mark V head when I ran across the amp, and immediately thought "Well, obviously I need this amp for Open G slide." Then I saw the video with Carlos and Randall, and that Carlos signs the amp. Forget Blue Stripe, Green Stripes- Carlos signs it.
3) I had a Nomad 100 4x10 combo that had this cab design, and the top lifted completely out of the sides. I really do prefer the tolex over the joints for support like a skin. Having said that, this piece is probably 60 lbs lighter.
4) If this amp were not an amp, but a scene in a movie, it would be this.... [don't ban me!] The Big Lebowski - I'm just gonna go find a cash machine.
Gracias Carlos! Dios nos bendiga! I've played your music onstage, to my family, and for myself for over 40 years! My two favorite bands are Santana and the acoustic rock band America. I'm a child of the 70s, what can I say! :D
Amazing they go so far back !
I saw Santana in 1977, when he was using a Yamaha SG2000 & Boogie Mk1. At the back of the stadium, about 50 metres behind the F.O.H desk was the men's room (old Sydney Showground) at ground level of the stand. When Carlos hit the solo level he deafened all of us inside the men's room & everyone had to decide whether to try to pee no handed & cover our ears or go deaf and control the pee! The concrete room made the sound worse. It seemed that the P.A. stacks were aimed right at the men's room... yeah, a Boogie 'projects' all right.
Awesome video, and another awesome historically significant amp from Boogie.
What a great video! Super excited for this amp...Santana's Legendary tone!
Fantastic discussion about a really important period in the history of music gear. I’ll never forget reading Carlos’ interview in Guitar Player magazine where he talked about this new amp he was using. He said he could make it make scream in a hotel room. Well, that sounded good to me! Soon after that I was talking on the phone to the people at Mesa (probably Randall himself) ordering my own Boogie. Eventually it arrived - I don’t remember how long it took. I think they had to ship it air freight for some reason. Good times.
Great amps, and based off the great Mark I, which is still one of the finest amps ever produced. One of the best things about Boogies is the headroom, great tone at all volumes. You can really save your ears with one of these. Are they expensive? Yes. But think of all the crappy amps you won't have to buy, all the repair bills. I played the hell out of my Boogie. I changed the tubes every three years. They are so well made, so efficient, just wonderful pieces of engineering genius.
I just bought a Mesa boogie Mark 2 B for $730 bucks I put new JJ tubes in it this amp sounds amazing. It is the best sounding amp I have ever owned. I just can say enough about Mesa boogie amps. Pat Romero Denver Colo. Cheers to Carlos Santana.
Is that just a head. Or a combo? I got a wood and wicker S O B and love how easy it is to get a great sound. No pull knobs, no confusing switches, just 7 knobs including reverb.
@@sparkyguitar0058 Hi there mine is a combo I love it but it's heavy as he'll I just had my buddy go through it and I installed some new Tung Sol tubes power tubes and pre Amp tubes I took out the dated EV SPEAKER and I put a Eminence G -12 speaker in it now it sounds much better it's a 150 watt speaker I bought it from some guy on Craigslist for $750 now I see them selling for like $3000 bucks I am going to put it away for awhile I am getting ready to buy this new Amp called a line 6 Catalyst it's a new Amp that they just came out with its real easy to use its two channels and it's light it don't have any tubes in it Google it there AWESOME AMPS THEY have a 60 watt a 100 and a 200 watt I'm going to buy the 200 watt two 12 combo let me know what you think after you take a look.
@@patrickromero5365 Took out the "dated" E V speaker? I just built a 12 pedal pedalboard during covid so really haven't got a chance to really play out with it. Yes very heavy especially with a road case and the 12 L speaker. But I wouldn't change anything on this amp. It's actually heavier than my pro tube Twin but that's the case making it heavier. I'm pretty satisfied with my current whole guitar setup. Strat, Paul, board into Boogie. As a kid had the usual pictures on bedroom wall. Now I own and play same stuff that was on wall. Rest of equipment; bass, keys, drums, P A is all junk ( not very expensive kinda equipment). But it's mine and even if it was free always needs so TLC.
This is so beautiful!
Makes me so happy that I bought a Boogie
I've a Mesa resembling an early Walnut/Wicker Mark, but w/8 front knobs: VI/VII/TRE/BAS/MID/PRES/LIM. 100W/50W, reverb, 2fans/2speeds/ on/off together, & international power converter. 1x12" combo, but huge: 22" across x 21" high without the feet, big enough for a 15". 80 lbs. Everything I want in an amp: Warms up sweetly like a Deluxe with a Twin's power. What is this thing? S.O.B. on steroids?
Carlos to me is number 1.He is the greatest.
What an awesome amp ! and great player !
Two of the Greats , still have my special order Mark II piggy back since 1980
I always wondered how Santana achieved his unique sound. Now I know..... Thanks for enlightening me!
i'm a very happy mesa player.i have a dc3 .pick one up for 6 or 7 hundred.5 if yr lucky.country jazz blues! rock metal. thick growly tone
I wish there was a non-limited version of this amp without the snakeskin and signatures. This is one of the best amps and it's a shame that they're hard to come by and that they're so expensive. An updated Mark I as a standard offering would be amazing.
This sounds like a great idea,JELIFISH19 ! We'll pass it on to the design team... :)
MESA/Boogie Any updates on this?
Hi Danielle Muscato - Nothing to speak of. Thanks for checking in though. :D
Thanks MESA/Boogie . Will you keep me in the loop danielle@daniellemuscato.com? I would love to purchase one if it's ever made.
yeah definitely getting this...see ya!!!
I own a 1978 Mesa Boogie Mark-ll-A in showroom condition. This King Snake is so tempting... Man, don't know what to do! lolololol... Stay safe... Rico
You should get one before they are all gone! Well worth the price in every way. I also have a 97 Mark I reissue with a Great Plains Audio 417-8H (basically an Altec) speaker. The KS has a few refinements over the Mark I. Overall string balance is improved. Very good taper on the master volume. It does not explode with volume when you change from Input 2 to Input 1. The speaker they put in there is very good and works well with the amp. Two amp voicings (Tweed and Black Face), 10 watt mode. Tremendous feel to the amp. I have a Fryette Power Station for use with these amps.
vncstudio Sounds like an awesome setup you have there... I waited too long to buy the King Snake. When I finally decided to buy it, it had doubled in price... I'm really happy with my Boogie... Wouldn't trade it for any other amp... I know you know what I mean... It's the way it makes you feel when you're really getting down on it... Like a good friend that never lets you down...lol. Take care and God Bless... Rico
If you don't want that old Boogie, I can take it off your hands... 👀
Carlos has parted ways with Mesa Boogie as of 2022. Goodbye “friend” !
Hello Mesa Boogie , just a question: The original MK1 has the pull boost knobs on the two volumes that gave the amp a huge creamy , punchy overdriven tones.
Are those two pull boost functions compressed in the mid/boost knob on this new amp ? Thanks
Hi 71braz - YES! The Boost function is now built into the boost potential of the Mid control.
History there, Americana!
Dan Boul talks the talk - and tells a pretty good joke too - but Randall Smith really walks the walk and always has
I remember when you guys were out near the Ink Wells in Forest Knolls in Marin. Wow have you come a long long way.
Mesa, what is the difference between this amp and the original MK1? And is it true that Santanas original MK1 is modded / NOT stock?
best amp unforgiving amp
carlos said burly sound ... love that hes so right
GP reviewed them and gave it a $2500 price Tag. very limited run......they will FLY at that price.
Burst sighting at 1:49 in the flute photo. Where did that one go? Does Carlos still have it?
My King Snake is my main studio amp....
I'm having it.
Randall looks like a younger Jimmy Carter :)
Incredible amp-All you have to do is listen to the 1st album compared to Abraxas-Purely Beautiful...
Anyone love Santana in 2021?
2022, and every year until we die. Always.
What is the song at the end?
nomad
I wanted to hear Carlos's play thru the original Snakeskin model and maybe also compare it to the tribute King Snake..not so fortunate. I guess that would be like asking Jesus to turn wine into water....not surprised it was just candid discussions about their relationship and history.
Can you post some sound samples of this amp?
okay , i got no boogie money but i got a tele a strat and a hotroddeluxe , what pedals give me a Santana tone in my setup or is it impossible ?
Hi +wasn't me - The Mark I is a big part of Carlos signature sound. There are no pedals that we make that encompass that sound and I don't think he uses a ton of pedals to get his sound so it kinda does come down to the amp.
+wasn't me a wah and a tube screamer throw in a echo/reverb w/o a prs and a boogie you're only gonna get close.
+wasn't me Just to chime in here.... When you talk about Mesa Money I know a lot of us musicians face the reality of wanting what we can't afford but, If you look around many places like Reverb.com or Guitar Center and other places you can find some of the old Boogie Combos for a very reasonable money. If you get these older combo amps they are built like tanks and they still just sound awesome. I have a Mark III combo and its 30 years old, sounds like a dream and cost me $800. Look around, the deals are there and it is worth the money!!! They make AMAZING amps! One last thing, how Carlos sounds is mostly in his hands and his head. The amp is great at letting that out !
Michael Watkins
i wouldn't expect to find a "deal" at guitar center but the local music shops and pawns are great places to look for cheap gear. and not for nothing but $800 is still a pretty substantial chunk of change. you might laugh but i got pretty close to santana tone w/ a pod nut before i had to sell it.
+Kewl Beans Funny thing is I got it at guitar center, it was one of the lowest prices and its in amazing shape. One thing to remember is if your getting the tone your after then stay where you are ! No matter if its a pedal, amp or combo of both, the hunt for the king tone is a life long run. Enjoy !!!
So whens the reissue of the 2c+ coming out !!
That is in Channel 3 of the Mark 5
dusted04 the new jp2-c
Jordan Canning is really the jp-2c a reissue of the 2c+? I mean, they don't even have the same tone controls. Thats what stops me on getting a JP2C.
Enrique M. they did a video on it anf JP and the boogie guys said it
kewl interview. i was kinda hoping to see him play the amp but whatever. :/
watch a carlos santana video then.
Too bad so few were made. I know the same 10-25-35 watt amp is available in the regular black cover, but I wrote a song called King Snake. We recorded it back in the early 90's with a '52 Gretch 8" amp with lariats & cowboys on it. This is the tone. I'd love to own one. They're nowhere to be found.
try the OKKO Coca Comp compressor pedal, hand wired German studio grade optical compressor that sounds pristinely clean and natural. I have one in front of every note I play acoustic or electric.
At around 200-230 it's a steal for what you get, my most important pedal ever
Mrlz56 i
What is the song at the beginning?
Europa, by Santana. You'll find the best version on the Moonflower album.
Someone help me, please!
Why do some Mesa/Boogie amps come with only either 'Mesa' or 'Boogie' logos. They rarely have 'Mesa/Boogie' on them!
It's been puzzling me for ages!
HiBruno Alves Ferreira Santos - Currently, Mark Series amps usually get a Boogie logo. While most everything else we make get's a Mesa Engineering logo. Back in the '80s, we used the Mesa/Boogie logo a lot but stopped using that when we released the Rectifier series in 1991. Hope this helps!
Thanks, ***** - Great, kind words here and a fairly accurate assessment of how it went down. Ironically, we've got a little video about to go live where Mesa's Founder Randall Smith talks about this very thing. So keep yer eyes peeled for that one in the next few weeks. Thanks again for the kind words! :D
That's really enlightening. I do appreciate your concern, guys!
And I'm already looking forward to Randall's video on this subject!
Mesa Boogie, which later Santana albums has Carlos said contain good examples of the Mk 1 sound. I’ve heard the Abraxis album a lot so I know that’s the Mk.1.
Without the Altec 417 series speaker, it's only an approximation.
Any price tag ?
It's most likely going to be over $2000 easily. We will probably find out at the NAMM 2014 show.
WHAT IS THAT SONG AT THE END? What era?
It’s called Nomad off his Shape Shifter album from 2013.
@@renodavid thanks!
I would like to sound Like Carlos Santana Tone From The Boss ME 80.
And that thing really BOOGIES....
thanks to santana Boogie got its name...!!
He didn't play :(
B4 Xmas I will be getting the BOSS ME-80 Humbucker Simulator Lead Tube Screamer EQ Spring Reverb Effect Tascam Mesa Boogie Sound & A YAMAHA KEYBOARD With The Sustain Pedal Main Voice Overdriven Guitar With Dual Voice Feedback Guitar 2 Grab The Hat Then I will Play Malo Songs Like Techno Rumba Ritmo Tropical Oye Mamá Mombotombo Sapo Band Ritmo de Corazón Enanitos verdes Amores Lejanos Luz de Día Los Lobos Chucos Cumbia Live Versión Cisco Kid By War Sad Melody Backing Track In E Minor And The Early Santana Without the Hat Using Jazz Guitar With Dual Jazz Amp Gypsy Band Gypsy Queen Part 1 As Far as you can see
Dream If You Can
Decision
Tomorrow is the last to be heard.
That Thing Really Boogies.......
Apart from the glorious sound ....this might seem a stupid question,was real snakeskin ever used on these amps ? Its worrying me.
Hi ***** - The "snakeskin" used then was a reconstituted leather, very similar to what is used now on the King Snake. Appreciate the concern and Mesa does not utilize materials of the kind that would concern anyone. ;)
Thanks,I'm not particulary keen on snakes but I know pythons are a protected species and they are just doing their thing,whereas snakes in human form are not.
When snakeskin real or not was used on the original amp, that was in the days before people became more enlightened about wild animal welfare.
I would be happier if some poor creatures skin didn't end up simply for decoration for an amp when there is a perfectly good looking hard wearing synthetic alternative and it would be a lot cheaper and bring the cost to you and the customer down.
Leather for a practical use like shoes is more acceptable ,but still difficult for me personally.
Prune music,
carlos, your trousers are very loud
This video lacks sound bites
C'mon now Carlos,pick up the PRS and play somthin for us. Please.
Yeah but i can tell u straight up from
Owning 2 mark v mesas and playing a real 2c+ there not the same
The original is far better
Here's what I find strange. Companies come out with a great product, but they only have it in limited quantity. Then they take it "off the menu".... WHY? Is it that they only want to sell the other models that suck? I never figured that one out. It's like Gibson only selling 250 1959 Les Pauls. Heck, if that's the Holy Grail and people always want to buy it, then make it a standard model and make em whenever someone wants one. the point of Mesa Boogie were the old original models and variations and they should ALWAYS be available, even if it's on a special order basis.
I had one of my favorite Chinese restaurants, and they had one of their Chef Signature dishes and then they took it off the menu. It's like WHAT? That's the dish I want, if you don't make it, then I have to find another favorite restaurant to go to.
Either keep on making them or add the circuitry that these have in the other Mark models. Also, just make them in the standard cabinet finish and offer the snake skin through the custom shop. :-)
+Oneness100 I can answer that. First, the special models don't fit into standard production. They shortcut the systems in place in order to make them happen. Parts inventory and manufacturing have to do makeshift arrangements that need to be undone for the next big idea to have room for them. Next, the beancounters run most companies that stay in business. They constantly analyze return on investment and that's a measurement of profit divided by time and resources invested--and cheap junk from china wins every time with the beancounters, hence you see Guitar Center dropping Mesa and selling more cheap amps. Same reason all large stores like Sears and Pennys went from offering a full range of household items for your convenience, to nothing but cheap soft goods from third world countries. Maximize return on dollars invested. In the end beancounters win and we lose.
Taterly Saladman They can make these a standard model is my point. I know all about the costs and how beancounters analyze a business. Mesa has never really gone the way of off shore mfg have they? For them, it's just making a different model with different specs and charging what they need to charge to make the profit margin they need to make.
Hi +Taterly Saladman - Some of what you have said here is accurate but a couple of things are not... Mesa dropped Guitar Center... Small but important distinction. :) Regarding bean counters, any company has to determine the profitability of what it makes and sells and we are fortunate to be able to continue to hand build everything we make in Petaluma, California to exceptional high standards, just as we have since moving to the same building since 1980. We are also extremely proud to offer some of the most versatile and innovative products for vacuum tube guitar and bass amplification at relatively affordable prices compared to 'the new boutique builders' with higher prices and less versatility. We have stayed, and will continue to stay true to the same values under which the company was founded and our track record shows just how much control the bean counters have over Mesa's product offerings. In the edn, Randy Smith decides - not the accounting department. Thanks for the thoughtful comment and your interest! :D
Hi +Oneness100 - You are indeed correct that Mesa can easily build a lessor cost version of this model. At some point, that may take place. In the meantime, this was a collaboration with one of the great guitarists of this century and one with incredible history with the company who approached Mesa to do a specific re-issue of an amp he loved after having a 'return spiritual experience' with the amp that started it all. So we decided to stay true to that original vision while adding just a touch of features and circuitry that exposed itself 45 years later while researching the project. It's a great tribute to the amp that started it all and one of the key players of the time that helped expose that new voice and innovation in cascading high gain that Randy pioneered! Thanks for your interest and enthusiasm and the kind words. Stay tuned! :D
MESA/Boogie What I find kinda funny/sad at the same time is when a company does something that's special and that's their inherent history and signature sound, some stray away from it, when they shoud be continuing that special something they created that made them what they are. It's like going to your favorite restaurant and they take a great dish off the menu. WTF? I never understood that. If that dish is what helped create the restaurant to be great, then keep the dish on the menu..... :-)
Same thing with amps. Keep that original sound intact. I can understand making other models to add to the product line, but you have to keep that famous sound as part of the product line.
Keep up the great work, you guys make great products.
Mark V is
I have TIN-I-TUS... and I have no kids... BUT I have never owned a Marshall... so that philosophy is Bollux...!
Wayyyyyy overpriced.
You must work at Wall-Mart. Mercedes Benz are expensive too .
leibstandarte1stSS And also not worth the price tag.
They are to me.