PairBear That is correct! Now if that Christian permits sin and unbelief to harden their hearts, then you have a falling away. The bible is clear on that!
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
The Bible is full of scriptures that encourage living a Godly life and warns of the consequences for those that don't. If those that choose to live a life in opposition to God will be judged accordingly, how can once saved, always saved be accurate? What's the incentive for living a life based on scripture if everyone has the same outcome? Most people that habitually commit serious sins have accepted Christ. With that said, how could a Godly person's fate and a habitual sinners fate be the same? Anyone sincerely repenting, turning away from their bad deeds and asking for forgiveness can be forgiven. However, that has nothing to do with being saved. Matthew 24:13 is very clear. It says, "the one who has endured to the end will be saved".
@@KamperFish Hi Matt! That's an excellent question. Anyone can be forgiven. Jehovah reads hearts and he knows when a person is sincerely repenting and truly desires to turn away from his or her sins. He even provides us with his Holy Spirit to assist us in doing his will. He knows that we're dust and will sin daily. The goal is not to repeatedly commit deliberate sins. Remember that King David was a murderer and an adulterer. However, Almighty God understands the true attitude and motive behind sins. Rather than have David condemned to death by human judges according to the Mosaic Law, Jehovah mercifully intervened, dealing with David and Bath-sheba himself. As long as we recognize our sinfulness, repent of our errors, earnestly beseech Jehovah for forgiveness, and ask him to create in us a pure heart, he hears and forgives. (Ps. 51:10) Never forget that Jehovah is as he described himself to Moses-“a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin.” Jehovah has not changed.-Ex. 34:6, 7. Remember that God is greater than our hearts. He loves us and is always looking for a reason to forgive us.
@Matt Fisher.. Those that choose to live in opposition to Christ...maybe are not truly saved. True belivers want to honor God and follow his instructions...and repent when they stumble.
@@diroberts4075 That's true. MOST people are interested in what others think of them. As Christians, though, what Jehovah thinks of us is much more important. After all, he is the greatest Person in the universe, and with him is “the source of life.”-Psalm 36:9. The apostle Peter explained that to have Jehovah’s approval, we need to have “holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion.” (2 Peter 3:11.) Our “acts of conduct” are holy only if we live a clean life in every way. This includes the way we think, act, and worship God. Also, we need to have “deeds of godly devotion” motivated by deep love and respect for God. So it's not only our actions, but also our feelings about God that matter to him. Jehovah is the “examiner of the heart,” so he knows whether our actions are holy and whether we worship only him. www.jw.org/en/publications/books/good-news-from-god/#?insight
I “fell away” when I was 18 due to severe depression and then turned to drugs cope. Well 8 years later I’m finally sober and free from it all, about 3 months into sobriety the fear of God hit me like a train and pretty much has put me on my knees for 4 months. I’m now going on 8 months sober and I’ll tell you what, it’s like God has said to me “don’t you dare ever leave me again”. Hebrews absolutely terrifies me now. I’m just gonna stay this time. Haha
"The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom", praise God He took you back. I was not born again but a similar story with drugs and depression and if God did not save me I would probably end my life, thank God He gave me purpose to life!!
Amen brother!! So happy to read you’re delivered from drugs. I see first hand all the time the crippling grip that drugs have. Praise the Lord for your freedom! Remain in the one who saved you, God bless you brother. See you in the clouds one day :)
This puts a smile on my face. Glad to hear you've fled drugs and run to christ instead. And Hebrews terrifies me as well, that book will sober you up fast. Glod bless you
Just a heads up I’m over 13 months sober! And basically I learned once your His, your His. Only someone who is saved would even care about losing their salvation. Just let go, He has you. I wasted so many months worried I wasn’t saved anymore. Once your His, your His.
I just want to warn anyone who wonder if you can lose your salvation, I personally had a vision while at work of me personally losing my salvation due to constant sin, the vision was clear enough to stop me in the middle of working. I don't do drugs nor drink. There is nothing more important or valuable than your personal relationship with the Lord. Don't let anyone fool you to thinking that constant sin is OK. There is nothing on this planet worth risking your relationship with Him. Please I'm begging you to stay focus and be obedient to the Lord and His will, don't be lukewarm🙏
Wow it is so refreshing to hear somebody actually speak truth and what the Bible actually teaches. It’s becoming increasingly rare in these last days to see people taking a stand for the truth. It’s getting hard to find anybody on UA-cam who teaches about endurance and remaining in Christ because everybody wants their ears tickled and just to hear that they are find no matter what they do. Along with being called by God, this is the reason I just started my UA-cam channel to deal with these EXACT same issues that are so misunderstood in the church today. I just couldn’t hardly find any good teaching on it so I just thought well I guess I’ll just have to put out my own. God bless and hold fast to the Lord your God! 😀
Oh and BTW I had a vision about that as well. I was stuck in constant unforgiveness and hatred over about a year period and I grew very hateful angry and bitter. God finally gave me a vision of him holding me over a cliff, and below there was a lake of fire. He said to me it’s your choice, do you want me to let go? There was a heavy weight to it and I knew there would be eternal consequences if I told him yes. And the crazy thing is I actually thought about saying yes because I was so hateful inside! But I ended up saying no and he pulled me back over the cliff and then said “then follow and obey me!”.
The Lord has made it clear that those who are lukewarm Christians will be rejected. We all must understand what He means by this and make sure we submit ourselves to His will.
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire. If you sin you are of the devil (1 John 8:44) when you ask God to change your life and you put in your own effort (James 4:7) then you are adopted into the family. God is Holy so you must be Holy, you need to enter the narrow gate and aim to be perfect as the Father is perfect; you will be sanctified and changed overtime and conformed to the image of Jesus. If you are born again you can still fall away ; Jude refers to it as being twice dead. Remember in revelation it states the devil makes war with those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ and keep the commandments of God. Now most people do one without the other; for instance, lukewarm Christians (Rev 3:16) have the testimony of Jesus but are living in intentional sin. Jews keep the commandments of God but do not have the testimony of Jesus. God requires both! Ivan tuttle went to Hell and Heaven and he said there are way too many Christians who believed in Once saved always saved, Eternal Security so they had Intentional Sin they didn’t repent of pornography, lying, stealing, fornication etc Please see the video ua-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/v-deo.html (2 Cor 5:17 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.)
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......
what saddens me when i read all these comments is the fact that when we as christians differ from interpretation of the holy scriptures we tend to lose respect for one another. We forget that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ. Let us, when we address one another, do it with respect unto each other. Many of us will call some pastor false or a doctrine false or the other way around, How do you know for sure that your interpretation is the correct one. It is best to accept that you do not need that any one teaches you except the holy spirit. Let us comment, rebuke, teach in love to one another instead of getting personal and insult someones christian denomination version. Do not get personal, it is not our job to save a person but the Lord's. Let us not tie a yoke around our own necks but let us worship God the almighty in spirit because it is a beautifull thing to do. If someone rejects your version of interpretation, thats fine because its that persons choice. You have done your part in teaching, exhorting to that person. We all know the devils plan is to seek kill and destroy and to decieve so why fall for it. We as brothers and sisters in Christ are all bonded together through his love.So let us treat one another with respect.
Well said!!!!!!!! It hurts to give your opinion and someone attack you and say your going to hell because you don’t truly believe or arnt truly saved we will never 100% understand every scripture and that’s the way God intended it I think he knows that ALL of us will not fully grasp what it is truly meant to say and you can take one sentence and make it mean a thousand things so just because some people believe down to the core that they are correct in the end it’s not meant for them to know it all God will not punish us for taking a verse the wrong way we need to work together to figure out what we can and agree to disagree sometimes and move on the the next verse I do believe that if you pray enough God will eventually give you answers God knows our hearts and to me that’s what matters to him most our hearts what do they truly carry how do we treat others our neighbors our family our friends and most important strangers! Stop fighting it’s not worth it! God didn’t give us the holy word to fight and get mean with one another about I believe he wrote it as a personal message and that every believer can take it the way God sees fit for that particular time in ones life how do we not know that his messages arnt meant In Different ways for all of us? I can write I love you to my husband and my best friend and a stranger and my kids and mean it 4 different ways God is amazing so if I can take 3 words and make them mean something different for 4 difference people don’t think he can’t take a whole book and do the same for a billion!!! I Love you all God bless?
Wayne Links simply agree to disagree however, I watched a great video last night called The Law versus grace, deception... by watchman on the wall, awsome!!!! Watch whole thing and then think it over
@@lyssalouise2705 Then you have just defeated your first formula of Faith in Jesus= salvation + repentance+ works That's not faith alone. Which is why it crumbles when someone asks you (and someone did) "so you need works?" Faith alone should be faith alone, no more. Add something else and you'd be negating yourself.
I used to want to go to heaven. I believed for over 30 years in the Trinity. After a fallout with my son I felt alone. I realized I loved my son more than anything. Once I put God number one in my life the depression I suffered from for 20 years started to dissipate. About a year and a half later while praying for my son to come to faith the miracle of being baptized in the Holy Spirit happened to me. I now know as this Pastor says I am sealed with knowing my destination. Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
Salvation is putting your faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. Repent means to turn away to be in agreement with God. Saved people do not rationalize their sins.
Very well said, His true people don't rationalize sin. We call it out even in our own lives and ask God to help us rid ourselves of it. If we have the Spirit living within us, then sin should offend us as much as it does Him, and the Word says He hates sin.
“If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.” John 15:6 NIV “If you do not remain”
"I am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day". He saved me, not me myself, so if my salvation was something that could be lost that would be Him losing it not me, and we know he is perfect and cannot break his Word.
@MyKail Lewis We are saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13,4:30) Meaning not even God will break the seal, you are saved until you are redeemed on the day of redemption in heaven
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
Research this one folks. GAMBLE with eternity, really? Your not alone ,we all struggle with something. Keep moving forward in faith and obedience..Love God, love each other
@Felix Mitchell First of all, we are under Grace. Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. How can a saved persons name be blotted out? Jesus says, John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Pretty simple huh? Can Jesus blot out a saved persons name? No, Why? He says he wont! Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Who is a (overcomer)? Who? 1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 1John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? See it? Can you? A overcomer IS a saved person. You cannot even refute the Holy Spirit! Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, How long is the believer sealed for? Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Now on your actions, Salvation is NOT based on your actions. What actions did you have if you are saved? Either you accepted Jesus or not right? What works is that? NONE! Now on sins, Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; See it? Can you understand these four verses? If so, tell me what sins are NOT nailed to the cross. Now, look ,,,,,1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Jesus is MY ADVOCATE! How can he be the prosecutor when he REPRESENTS ME? I think you are warning me about the false doctrine YOU are posting. YOU been warned. Get saved & stop posting Jesus cannot save. He can. He will.
Vincent without holiness no man shall see the Lord....the Israelists were saved from Egypt but did not enter the promised land due to their sin and turn away from God.....so you can not lose your salvation as it is a gift and not of our own doing but we risk not entering our promised land which is heaven if we keep sinning and have no repentance....I think ppl who follow once saved always saved are folks who just keep on sinning and don’t repent. But if we do repent Jesus accepts is with open arms after we sin. Paul has a thorn in his side that God simply says His grace is enough. So this topic is a slippery slope but be warned that we are told without holiness no man shall see the lord and we are told that many will come to God on the last day professing they knew God saying “Lord Lord” I pray none of us will be in that category in Jesus name. If anything trying to live a Holy life does nothing wrong. If once saved always saved is true then we have nothing to worry about, but if your wrong ooooo boy
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?" Answer: First, the term Christian must be defined. A “Christian” is not a person who has said a prayer or walked down an aisle or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what makes a Christian. A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9). So, with this definition in mind, can a Christian lose salvation? It’s a crucially important question. Perhaps the best way to answer it is to examine what the Bible says occurs at salvation and to study what losing salvation would entail: A Christian is a new creation. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!” (2 Corinthians 5:17). A Christian is not simply an “improved” version of a person; a Christian is an entirely new creature. He is “in Christ.” For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be destroyed. A Christian is redeemed. “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:18-19). The word redeemed refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. We were purchased at the cost of Christ’s death. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase of the individual for whom He paid with the precious blood of Christ. A Christian is justified. “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1). To justify is to declare righteous. All those who receive Jesus as Savior are “declared righteous” by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and “un-declare” what He had previously declared. Those absolved of guilt would have to be tried again and found guilty. God would have to reverse the sentence handed down from the divine bench. A Christian is promised eternal life. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Eternal life is the promise of spending forever in heaven with God. God promises, “Believe and you will have eternal life.” For a Christian to lose salvation, eternal life would have to be redefined. The Christian is promised to live forever. Does eternal not mean “eternal”? A Christian is marked by God and sealed by the Spirit. “You also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory” (Ephesians 1:13-14). At the moment of faith, the new Christian is marked and sealed with the Spirit, who was promised to act as a deposit to guarantee the heavenly inheritance. The end result is that God’s glory is praised. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to erase the mark, withdraw the Spirit, cancel the deposit, break His promise, revoke the guarantee, keep the inheritance, forego the praise, and lessen His glory. A Christian is guaranteed glorification. “Those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified” (Romans 8:30). According to Romans 5:1, justification is ours at the moment of faith. According to Romans 8:30, glorification comes with justification. All those whom God justifies are promised to be glorified. This promise will be fulfilled when Christians receive their perfect resurrection bodies in heaven. If a Christian can lose salvation, then Romans 8:30 is in error, because God could not guarantee glorification for all those whom He predestines, calls, and justifies. A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and God’s gifts are “irrevocable” (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God cannot lie (Titus 1:2). Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4). Nothing can separate a child of God from the Father’s love (Romans 8:38-39). Nothing can remove a Christian from God’s hand (John 10:28-29). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, “when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home” (Luke 15:5-6). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home. Jude 24-25 further emphasizes the goodness and faithfulness of our Savior: “To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.”
Tyler Strombom: You did a masterful job of presenting half of the story. Now, why don't you present the other half and then harmonize the two halves so that there are no contradictions? You made a small attempt at that when you mentioned two common objections. Your response indicates that you instinctively know that OSAS cannot possibly be true. You recognize that true Christians cannot live a life of sin. So the way you get around this is to declare that all Christians that fall into a life of sin were never saved to begin with. Who made you God that you can pronounce such a judgement? You define a Christian this way: "A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit" Then you proclaim that those Christians were never saved when they deliberately keep on sinning. Seems to me the only justification for saying this is to say (contrary to scripture) that once you are saved, you no longer have free will and therefore you CANNOT live a life of sin after conversion. You have more homework to do. (hint: it is not hard to harmonize the scriptures if you truly will believe and accept them all as true) BTW- I have never seen a OSAS believer attempt to harmonize the scriptures. They all w/o fail try to explain away scriptures they do not agree with. You can start with this one: Hebrews 10:26-29 (NIV) 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? How can that verse be true and all the scriptures you expounded also be true? God bless you in your study.
I agree 💯 we are SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS ! We are sanctified throughout our lifetimes. We still mess up but feel immediately feel bad about it ! God is faithful when we are faithless, it is my grace you are saved through faith , not by works lest any man should BOAST ❤️ and ✝️🛐 s
The Bible ALSO says "every tree which does not bear fruit will be cut off". Quoting an isolated verse out of context doesn't exhaust the TOTALITY of the biblical witness on any given issue. For example, the pericope on the judgment of the nations (cf. Matthew 25: 31-46) makes clear there are people who go through life believing they are saved (Lord, Lord, did we not.....Depart from Me for I NEVER knew you), and yet AREN'T. They may have had faith, but then did not persevere until the end.
Got baptized 2 days ago, strange that this was on my mind yesterday. And to think I got this in my recommendation is definitely God answering my questions! Thank you
I encourage you to study and not lean one man's word. If you are not being alert to discern who is speaking the truth or not in this hour of deception, you will be deceived. God wants you to seek Him diligently. If you truly felt that you did that and were done seeking for the answers to the questions you had once you saw this recommendation, then ok. But if you are inclined to keep on studying the matter and pray for God's guidance and confirmation, I invite you to take a look at this: Can You Lose Your Salvation? yestothetruth.blogspot.com/2019/07/can-you-lose-your-salvation.html As a new believer, I advise you to be on high alert and abide in the love of Jesus; don't go outside of it and all will be well. John 15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.....
I think this is a very good interpretation of the Word. I believe a born-again believer won't "lose" salvation once he's saved, but there's a big danger: Many people falsely think they are already saved and use that as an excuse to keep sinning in the lack of fear of God. For that reason, "once saved always saved" is a phrase that must be used carefully, to not lead people into hell.
God bless you but once save always save is not true. The Bible tells us to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Your salvation is something you work on daily with the help of the Holy Spirit not by your own strength. Being saved does not automatically mean one is going to heaven. We first must be saved, then transformed by the Holy Spirit and become disciples of Christ. It’s crucial to have a personal relationship with God through the Holy Spirit. God bless you.
Most Christians where I live lack fear of God, because they think they are already saved and don't need to fear hell anymore, which leads to them not really taking sin seriously. David Pawson's interpretation was that salvation is not a an immediate moment but a the process of us getting rid of sin, as we grow in faith with the help of our Lord. That kinda resonates with me. One thing is sure: while we don't deserve salvation by our good deeds, faith without works is still dead. God bless you too.
@@original_golden_egg i didn't listen to it all. I believe salvation is immediate. You don't work your way into it. Those born again crucify their flesh. Paul said mortify your members. Sanctification is also a process. Therefore being justified. Is at one point in time as well as progressive. Isaac was a child of promise it had nothing to do with his choices. We are children of promise. We became that by faith. In the operation of God who raised Christ from the dead. God's promise to the seed of abraham was unconditional from my perspective. Because Paul said the law cannot disannul the promise. And if you are Christ you are that seed. So once you receive that seed. The Holy spirit the inheritance is irrevocable. That's how I see it. It also lines up with eternal life being a gift.
I think what john piper is saying is correct! If someone is genuinely saved that person will be carried on until the last day, Gods spirit will never leave them, they are SEALED in the spirit! If a true born again christian does stray off and live in sin, that person will never be happy in sin and will always come back eventually in repentance. If someone who says they are a born again christian and then falls away and strays into a life of sin, but they are perfectly happy to be there and do not feel any loss or pain in being there, then yes, I'd say that person was in fact never saved to begin with!
Cuzybing Yes, a believer can lose his salvation; but that assumption, falls on the pretext that if you will not remain faithful to God and forsake Him, then you will lose your salvation. Our own freedom of will to choose God is the reason. God gave us the freedom to choose Him before we became Christians. That freedom was never taken from us when we became Christians. The Spirit (read John 16:13) does not control us like automatons or robots against our will. One can certainly choose to deny his faith and forsake God if he wants, based on his own freedom of choice. God didn't force us to choose Him (for that is compulsion) when we first put our faith on Him, neither will He force us not to leave if we want because of our freedom of will. Every writer in the Bible warned us somewhere that we need to continue in the faith. The condition is that God will keep us to Himself if we continue to keep our faith in Him. This is called "Balance Of God's Calling To Salvation". So, can a Christian lose his salvation? The answer is YES; if he disobey God and forsake Him.
Cuzybing remember in the book of Acts the first church all of them had the Holy Spirit, remember the couple where the action was filled with the Holy Spirit and one of them lied the husband lot holding part of the money he gave up The Ghost and died, because he lied to the holy spirit in which he was filled with. So do he still go to heaven, because that's an example of losing your salvation. Also look at the seven letters to the seven churches, that was Christ Church and one of them was full of Abominations that got rejected, they were his churches. Jesus said Satan cannot cause you to lose your salvation, he never said that he himself won't reject you. Remember Jesus said he chose you so he can also reject you like he told Peter get behind me Satan you are an offense to me and that one example where Jesus lost sight of the things of God
Being "SEALED" by the Spirit is a silly and weak excuse. The author of Hebrews clearly wrote: "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST" So, that "sealed" stuff is an over exaggeration and a lie. The Spirit does NOT allow Himself to be grieved, NOR does He strive with men forever. If someone wants to go back into willing and unrepentant sin, that is their backsliden downfall. "Which have FORSAKEN the right way, and are GONE ASTRAY, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; ... For if after they have ESCAPED THE POLLUTIONS of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, THEY ARE AGAIN ENTANGLED therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to TURN from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." - Peter
It's really obvious: those who disagree with this speaker are in Christ and are of the faith and are born of the Spirit. Those who agree with the speaker are not.
Thanks for preaching the truth. Only blood takes away sin and nothing else, only the sacrifice of Christ did it. We cannot undo it, because it relies on the performance of our Saviour and not ours. Someone may decide in their mind to abandon the faith but the Spirit will forever be there whispering and guiding:) God's love Nicolas
Thabk you Father for saving me, a person who was utterly depraved and lost, thank you for taking me into your arms and giving me the faith to stand strong, thank you Jesus for your sacrifice that I may wear the breastplate of righteousness! Abba!
“…The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.” 2 Chronicles 15:1-2 KJV
Such an important teaching, yet dangerous when put in the hands and off the tongue of a wrong "preacher". May this serve as an invitation to you to openly study this teaching further. Peace!
Thanks Pastor John. Once God opens your eyes to the Truth, there is no way back from that because the impact of realising God is real and Jesus did died for you, on the Cross and satan has been lying to you all your life, that Truth is bigger than massive and you can't turn back from that and here I was thinking I'd lost my salvation. Thanks again Pastor John for those encouraging words.
“But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.” Ezekiel 18:24 NKJV
Is this referring to actual death or spiritual death, though? Because I’ve heard that, if you don’t follow God in this life, but are still saved, He can choose to bring you to Heaven early. This is a genuine question, so, please don’t get angry with me or anything. I just know that there’s two types of death and they’re both technically mentioned in the Bible.
jean-yves MawuTion My friend, it speaks of the physical death that the wicked man will suffer in the hands of God (v.18). That is a customary language used by people in the Old Testament times. Verse 9 expressly says that the wicked “shall die in his iniquity”; as Proverbs 2:22 asserts- “the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it”.
@@oncergirl6600 Everyone dies, so this is concerning eternity. Heaven, or tormenting hell and the Lake of Fire forever. It ties in to the scripture that reads, those who endure to the end shall be saved. The one who fell away, didn't endure to the end, and went to hell, and the one who did righteousness one day, he didn't have to endure long, only a day, but he went to heaven. He was possibly one day away from hell. God is good. The whole bible is a book of salvation, even the OT. God will show one, if they sincerely ask Him, with a good heart, or good intent.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......
What such a beautiful news is this A blessed assurance in our Lord’s faithfulness for He sustains us that we do not loose our hope and our salvation in Him. Baruch Atah Adonai, Eloheinu Melech Ha’Olam, Sh’hecheyanu, V’Kiyemanu, V’Higianu LaZman HaZeh. Praised are You, the Eternal One our God, Ruler of the Cosmos, who has kept us alive, sustained us, and enabled us to reach this moment
Excellent answer Pastor John! So many fail to understand that Christ paid for ALL sin, past, present, and future! And the key is this, those who are the ELECT and predestined are the ones who are truly of Him! There are so many who were led into a false conversion by emotional means especially in many charismatic circles. Key scriptures: Rom. 10:9,10,13, Eph. 1:1-14, 1 John 5:13 Many are not using proper exegesis for there must be a delineation of justification and sanctification. IF God has "sealed" (Eph. 1:11-14) how can a fallible human break God's seal? Not.
Christian Aaron Like a child who sins against his dad, eventually he will run to his dad crying and asking for his forgiveness. He knows the dad still loves him as much as ever and will readily accept his repentance. Repentance is agreeing with God that what you did was wrong, and you wish to turn away from your sins. He is the perfect Father, never will He cast you out. He will absolutely discipline you, but your His child evermore.
Andrew Jackson Sorry you’re wrong. Sounds good. But your words are from Satan. What you’re saying is even if the prodigal son hadn’t repented he would still have gone to heaven I disagree. It’s a doctrine invented by the losers of the reformation. Ezekiel 33 12-20
Those who seek to save their life will lose it but he who loses his life for my sake and the gospels, the same shall save it. Except you repent you all likewise will perish. Jesus Christ
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.........
John 5:24 convinced me ultimately: “Truly I tell you, anyone who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not come under judgment but has passed from death to life.” Eternal life begins at conversion, NOT death, and, by definition, it therefore cannot be lost!
Flat out falsehood. The prodigal son did not physically die. Furthermore, Jesus was crystal clear that blasphemy of the Holy Ghost can never be forgiven. ONLY a mature Christian can even commit that sin. Once saved always saved is a lie.
If you could lose your salvation you would. Stop holding on to anything we can to add to what the Lord Jesus did on that cross. Believe and he saved. Good works are great, preaching, soul winning, reading the word, praying are all fruits of our salvation but faith alone in what Jesus did on that cross is the root of our salvation. The gospel is that simple and thank God He made it that simple. “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” John 10:27-28
Brothers and sisters God bless every one of you. I'll dip my oar in to this conversation and I pray those reading will listen. I DO BELIEVE that if you are TRULY born again, you will not lose salvation. I am speak from experience. I was working hard to get to know the Lord and I was beginning to walk in righteousness. But, when I was four months into my walk, I was at university. I still hadn't even read a quarter of the Bible and was not rooted in his word nor understood how he operated. I was going through a stormy time with God where "the spiritual high" had worn off and I didn't have a lot of spiritual support and my roommates were pagans (Nothing against them at all, they are wonderful people). But I had been praying on a husband and Satan sent me the counterfeit. And me, wanting a relationship and being so pre mature in my walk, fell for the counterfeit. I didn't intentionally up and leave God. My lover seemed pretty harmless at first. Drinking from time to time, etc. The Holy Spirit definitely warned me. I didn't understand. Beginning to fall and thinking that he was "close enough" to a man of God. We get into a relationship and things get worse. The holy spirit tells me to stop and then I begin to smoke again and then the swearing came back. I would cry upset with what I was doing and then go back to being with him. It was the biggest tug a war I have ever been through. He became abusive to me yelling at me until I cried, apathetic to me, a huge narcissist. I wasn't feeling conviction anymore and I had become stuck in a soul tie. By the time I knew I needed to go back to God I felt like I had dug myself in a huge pit. I knew that I messed up, bad. I had to go back my spirit BURNED for him. I was parched like a desert that only he could fill. I hadn't departed from the faith at all I believed in the Lord I was ashamed I was going behind his back but I felt so overrun I didn't know what to do and the soul tie was destroying me. I wanted to give up but I'm telling you, the spirit in me PERSEVERED FOR ME. I saw the spirit telling me to come back over and over and I knew I was going too even though I was surrounded in darkness I knew I was going to ultimately go back. I took baby steps to recover with how bad I had fallen. I started to talk to him and ask how should I get out of this? (And me being blind) asked him should I break up with him? Once I spoke to him he's spirit took hold and is what controlled me from smoking, I can't make this up. He made it as clear as day the holy spirit revealed to me in an instant as I looked at him the absolute absence of God in him and I broke up with him it was either that day or the next. After seeing how I was abused and thinking I knew better, do you think a loving father would abandon his child? Not at all. He never left me. Not once. In my darkness I saw how the Lord worked. I feared him and I was running away when I had snowballed into my pit. In my case, I didn't even know scripture. So all of these arguments and things for different scriptures were ones I had never known because I hadn't even read them. Only the holy spirit can draw you to repentance. "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day" If you desire God, it means God wants you. Everyone whom my Father gives me will come to me. I will never turn away anyone who comes to me, John 6:37 A bruised reed He will not break and a smoldering wick He will not extinguish; He will faithfully bring forth justice Isaiah 42:3 Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God. Jeremiah 3:22 But even if we speak like this, dear friends, we feel sure about you. We know that you have the better blessings that belong to your salvation. God is not unfair. He will not forget the work you did or the love you showed for him in the help you gave and are still giving to other Christians. Hebrews 6:9-10 So like Piper said everyone is caught up in Hebrews 6 but even the author of Hebrews was like yeah i was harsh. They are still sure the Lord will execute justice and bring you to the finish line no matter what. The author is saying that it is impossible to BRING THEM BACK TO REPENTANCE because THEY CANNOT turn away from their sins. But wait, no matter how far you've fallen, if you feel the NEED to go back repentance and YOU ARE INDEED turning away from your sins how is this possible? Because his GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR YOU and he desires you more than you will ever know. If this great firm falling away does happen your heart would have to become as hard as the Pharisees again, be sound and resolute in your stance, and hate God which are all evidences that you never knew God nor were you truly born again and you become one of the seeds of the parable of the seeds in Luke. I'm not saying grace is a license to sin. But again we are saved by grace not works. When he says to "work out" your salvation Piper brought up his point of oh now I'm saved im vaccinated I'm good. No. If one is truly born again they wouldn't have this mentality anyways unless they were given false doctrine and don't know better because of how they are a babe in Christ. I see this as he wants to develop a relationship with you so you understand him and this takes time and to step into the PURPOSE HE HAS PREDESTINED FOR YOU. You're his patient and he wants us to be feel secure and confident in him. And people forget the verse AFTER "working out your salvation." It's because God is always at work in you to make you willing and able to obey his own purpose. Philippians 2:13 SO ITS GOD ALREADY WORKING IN YOU. IT IS HIS BLOOD BOUGHT POWER THAT HE MOTIVATES YOU TO WORK IT OUT THE PURPOSE AND PLAN HE HAS FOR YOU THAT IS A PROMISE. IF HE WAS NOT ALREADY IN YOU THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. What about people who repent on their death bed and die and didn't "work out" their salvation? Come on now.
I'm very glad things turned out well for you ma'am and we need to thank God for His mercy and goodness towards us. Most people here are missing the points I've been trying to make. I've said (written in this case) all that's required. My main point to repeat myself is people who are saved need to keep God's commandments, period. Those who think they can willfully sin and God will look the other way ... well ... for the final time: "But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die." After studying the Bible for 40+ years, I've found no scriptures saying or even suggesting that a person who repented (got saved) and fell back into sin was never saved to begin with. If that person repents (again) and turns from his/her sin they will be saved though it does get harder to be restored. Lisa, most folks here are also missing the severity of sin in God's eyes. It saddens me to witness good Christian people attempt to reduce the majesty and holiness of God. Sin separated us from God ... and sin is the one thing that can do it after salvation. Repent and believe the Gospel.
Very well said. Thank you for your kindness in sharing your testimony. Our Lord does not leave us behind. I had a similar experience with unbelief by going into some false teachings because of my own immaturity and weakness. Even in my unbelief, the Lord was WITH ME telling me that He would restore me. The Lord restored me back into faith. I look back and I am just awe-struck at His love and faithfulness. Even when we stumble, He is faithful in keeping us in His salvation. He who began the good work WILL complete it. Praise the LORD.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.....
Did anyone else find his explanation extremely confusing? I feel like he twisted himself in a logical pretzel. After 8 minutes, he ends by saying, “perseverance in faith is the evidence that we’ve been made part of Christ and when that perseverance doesn’t hold, then we were never in [Christ].” How is that assurance of anything? How can you know you are saved if your perseverance in faith has to “hold” and you cannot know whether your perseverance has held to the end until you get to the end? Frankly, it makes more sense that you can be saved and then choose for yourself to walk away. Like in any family, I cannot change who my father is, but if I want to leave his house, change my name, and disown him, I have the free will to do so. It’s not a reflection on my father, it’s a reflection on me.
If you leave the family, is your father still not your father, or are you now fatherless? We are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption according Ephesians 1:13,4:30
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you...........
The assurance comes from the Holy Spirit when we are walking right. If we don't have assurance from God, something is wrong. We then need to seek God and heed what He tells us. It helps to have a good pastor and church, too.
False gospel is confusing, the true gospel is believe on the Lord Jesus and HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE, it’s everlasting and there’s nothing you can do to lose it, because going to heaven does not depend on you but on Jesus. #OnceSavedAlwaysSaved
The Word of God commands our trust in Him AND our continual surrender. I still struggle some days as i am a recovering alcoholic. I have failed many times, but the overwhelming love of my Father in heaven, the absolute compassion of my Savior and the indwelling life of the Holy Spirit brings newness and joy that can't be known in any other relationship. I can say "all things are possible for those who believe and are called according to His purpose" Amen
Jesus called me in a dream. He told me he wanted to take me with him to his fathers house. I read scripture and heard preacher and i know i am saved. I struggle still with sin, porn, Homosexual desires, and gambling. No matter how hard i try or pray these things will simply not go away or "repent", in fact when i try to resist these things IT GETS WORSE. I had given up trying to stop sinning because i cannot do it of myself, I have just surrendered and Trust Jesus with my salvation. i know his sacrifice has saved me.He will make me better, he is probably just pruning me.
The Rob TV Sounds like you have a stronghold in your life. I too struggled with porn and lust of the flesh. God gave me victory over this when I went through deliverance. You too can be delivered from this sin. Once set free, you need to learn how to maintain your freedom by staying away from anything that will cause you to sin.
Never give up hope, Jesus loves you(us) and whenever we sin we must ask the Lord to forgive us and to help us when we are weak. Forgive us ALL Lord Jesus.
13 Questions that those who teach a Christian can be Saved then Lost CANNOT answer: 1. How can a person, who has received Christ and all that accompanies that process, as a gift from God that He does not “repent” (change His mind) over, then be lost when the possession of the very gift we are speaking of means ETERNAL life? 2. How can a person whose salvation does not remotely depend on any human works or effort, but solely on the power and work of God in Christ, be lost by any sort of human works, effort, or action, by the body or by the mind? 3. How can a person that Christ died for paying the full penalty of the law, and satisfying the very demands of God’s justice, leave that covenant, therefore, requiring Christ to pay that penalty again? 4. How can a person who has been redeemed by an ETERNAL redemption by the powerful, precious, infinitely valuable blood of Christ, be placed back in a condition of condemnation? 5. How can a person who has been “born of incorruptible (undying) seed”* and is therefore given ETERNAL life as a gift that God does not “repent” (change His mind) of, die spiritually? 6. How can a person that God promises will not come under condemnation, then come under said condemnation? 7. How can a person who has BECOME a new creature in Christ then become an old creature again? 8. “If every believer was foreknown of God, and all who were foreknown were predestined to become conformed to the image of the Son of God, and all who were predestined have been called, and all who were called have been justified, and all who were justified have already been glorified in the sight of God, at what point is it possible for a single one to be lost?”** 10. If God has made provision for all who are saved through the advocacy of Christ, which is based only on HIS righteousness and HIS propitiation for all sin by way of the cross, to act as our “defense attorney” regarding all charges made against us by the enemy, how can one who is saved then be accused guilty and lost or condemned? 11. How can a person who has the Holy Spirit living, or abiding, in them forever; is sealed by the Spirit for security and as a witness to Christ’s ownership; and if this person has been given the Spirit as a GUARANTEE of something that can only be reached in eternity, how can this person NOT be secure? 12. How can a person who is the object of God’s love and therefore saved, not an object of His wrath and therefore condemned, who is promised God’s love will always be true; actually, it is the very reason of salvation, be lost? 13. How can a person who has been saved by the very power God declares He used to raise Christ from the dead and seat Him at the apex of power and glory possibly become lost and spend eternity in hell?
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
I was once born again, but now I'm completely spiritually dead. You can lose it. I literally have no hunger, thirst or anything for the things of God. He no longer speaks to me... I feel just the way i did before coming to Him
Sending prayers brother/sister. Alot of the time we want to hear God in the way that we want to hear Him. This is a trick by the enemy to pull you away from Him. He loves you. Come back to the Father. Your sins are not greater than the Almighty. Jesus died for your rebellion and eternal separation from God.
You my friend are believing a lie. You have allowed your mind to succumb to the great deceiver. The Father of lies. Draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh to you. It's his Word and his promise.
@@tiwanstrong1413 Start with Hebrew 3:14. The word "If" implies condition. For instance "If" you do something, "then" something will happen. In other words you have to continue in your relationship with God. He says to seek Him with all your heart and you will find him. Don't rely on yourself for salvation. Read John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him shall have everlasting life. You have to talk to Jesus. Trust Him. He will reveal Himself to you and He will teach you how to live for Him. Living for Him and following His commandments is the enduring part. Relationship with Him involves praying and reading His Word. He will be a friend who sticks closer than a brother. He will never leave you or abandon you. Call on Jesus. He loves you.
Thanks for good teaching! One of the good examples is this; Puritans believed that really regenerated person have some kind of signs in their souls. Going toward the grace, they realized their spiritual state by this convictions. Then, while justification brings forth the sanctification, sanctification is the witness of justification. Thanks!
@christocentric Thanks! Please look at Rom. 8:15-16 and 10:9-10. There you can see the conviction of saving faith which the Puritans advocated. They strongly emphasized the assurance of salvation.
Judas healed the sick, drove out demons,and raised the dead according to the Gospels, yet Satan entered him. Judas had to have had the power of the Holy Spirit within him, but still faltered at the end. This motivates me to always be aware of my behavior and attitude towards God, to be as obedient as possible, to be as gracious to others as I can, to be quick to forgive and quick to ask forgiveness when I am wrong. Believers need to stop worrying about can I lose my salvation and concentrate on making a life change by Jesus as attractive as possible.
You can't find anywhere in the gospels that explicitly say Judas performed any miracle by the power of the Holy Spirit. In order for Judas to have had the Holy Spirit at ANY POINT that would mean God would have had to have given Judas to Jesus, which He did not (John 17:12). God would have had to predestine him from the foundation of the world to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ (Romans 8:29). If Judas had been given the Holy Spirit, that would mean that He belonged to Jesus (Romans 8:9-11), and he did not, as the previous quote from John shows. If Judas had the Holy Spirit, that would mean he had been foreknown, predestined, called, justified, and glorified with Jesus (Romans 8:30) Even if Judas did perform miracles, that would be meaningless in determining whether or not he was saved. The name of Jesus is powerful enough that, whether it is spoken by reprobates or sons of the living God, demons, sickness, disease, and Hell itself must BOW to it. Many people who are reprobate and unsaved perform miracles; you see that in the Old Testament and the New. Jesus said as much (Matthew 7:21-23).
Ethan Channing Ethan, your reasoning fails in two areas. First, the idea that unbelievers can command demons just using Jesus name. Acts 19:13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists undertook to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, "I adjure you by the Jesus whom Paul proclaims." 14 Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this. 15 But the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you?" 16 And the man in whom was the evil spirit leaped on them, mastered all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. So we see that one must be inhabited by the Holy Spirit to use the name of Jesus Second, Judas did heal the sick, drive out demons, and raise the dead. In Matthew 10:5 Jesus gives this authority to the 12 and sends them to Jewish villages to preach. Then later sends out 72 with the same abilities (it's in Luke, see if you can find it). As for when Jesus says many who did miracles in His name were never known to Him, maybe they were believers who backslid. Either way we must fight the good fight, run the good race to receive the prize. I, for one, don't want to risk my salvation on the "once saved always saved" doctrine. Peter told us to be holy even as God is holy, and as a follower of Christ I will obey.
MrStevekehl You're kind of ignoring John 17:12. To quote the verse directly, "those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." Again, if Judas had the Spirit of God, that would mean he was regenerated, he knew Jesus was the Messiah, God in the flesh, he placed faith in Him for the salvation of his soul. That would mean God had predestined him from the foundation of the world to be conformed to the image of His Son, that Judas was foreknown, predestined, called, justified and glorified. Jesus clearly stated in His prayer to God the Father that Judas was the son of perdition. He was not saved. We then have two explanations. Either Judas didn't perform miracles, or, as Jesus Himself said, there are those who are able to perform miracles in His name that are not saved. And your interpretation that they were Christians who backslid is proven false by Jesus' response to their question. He told them He NEVER knew them. He didn't say, "I knew you, but you didn't do the proper works to keep your salvation," He said, "I never knew you, depart from me, thou workers of iniquity." Jesus also said that false prophets will be able to perform great signs. The sorcerers in Pharoah's court did miracles by the dark arts. This is not a new theme in Scripture. As regarding Acts 19:13, I will concede that you have made a good point. I would however raise the question, "Is there a difference between a person who outright rejects Christ so that they use distancing language like 'the Jesus whom Paul preaches' to refer to Christ and one who is commanding demons on the basis of a belief in the authority inherent in the name of Jesus--which is higher than any name, blessed forever--though not necessarily placing their faith in Him as the perfect sacrifice for their sins as the sinless Son of God?"
MrStevekehl Secondly, in spite of our disagreement on this issue, I will state that I believe this is an "in-house debate." I do not question your salvation. I am jealous for the glory of God and His call to holiness in our lives, but I find just as Paul did in Romans 7 that when I put myself under the Law and say "I must do this or this, or I must ask forgiveness for each individual sin," or whatever else have you, "in order to keep my salvation," I lived like a sinner. When I had the revelation of God's everlasting love for me and His free gift of grace, my life changed. However, I do not believe anyone who lives in a state of sin without the conviction of the Holy Spirit is saved (Hebrews 12:7, 8: " If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons."), nor do I believe that anyone who has defected from the faith was ever saved to begin with (1 John 2:19).
Ethan Channing Let me be clear, I don't doubt your salvation either. This topic is not to be taken lightly or debated by young Christians. It is a "meat" subject. The once saved always saved doctrine has lead many astray, thinking they can be saved while acting wordly; sinning boldly so grace may abound. In Matthew 10:22, 24:13 and Mark 13:13 Jesus talks about hardship coming with our faith,but the one who endures to the end shall be saved. Also the Parable of the Sower,Jesus says the rocky soil are those that receive the Word with joy, but have no root. Likewise, the rocky soil represents those where the Word takes root and begins to grow, but wordly concerns choke out their faith. If those who fall away were never really saved, how can any of us have any confidence in our salvation? I say I am saved, but is there an event in my future that will crush my faith and show that it was a delusion? You are right to point out John's Gospel where Jesus says he will not lose any the Father has given Him. Jesus doesn't lose us, we turn our back on Him. We betray Him with the choices we make. While I don't believe every sin separates us from God anew, nor do we need to make lists of sins or go to confession to be forgiven of individual sins. It is important to see areas of weakness in our lives and ask forgiveness of sins in those areas. Through prayer and the power of the Holy Spirit we can achieve victory over our weakness and grow in Christ. Then we will see the harvest 30, or 50, or 100 times over. God Bless
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Biblically the "Once saved always saved" doctrine does not line up. We are actually told to fear for a reason. Not a panic fear and constant anxiety that is counterproductive to doing God's work but rather an important fear that is wise to keeping proper perspective. *Caps added below for highlighting purposes. 1Pe 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in FEAR Does one think that this is fear of losing heavenly rewards? No. Other scripture confirms further why we as born again believers should fear. The context of Romans 11:20-22 is that of warning believers not to boast against the Hebrew people ( "natural branches"), when talking about how Gentiles have been grafted in the olive tree. The grafting in and out of the tree is talking about salvation into the body of Christ The olive tree represents biblical Israel the Church and the root of the olive tree is the Messiah Christ. Apostle Paul encouraged the believers to FEAR and CONTINUE IN GOODNESS otherwise warning them of being cut off. Rom 11:20 “Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but FEAR: Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IF THOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS: OTHERWISE THOU ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF. Rom 11:23 And they also, IF they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.” Importantly the word "if" is used demonstrating one's freewill of walking with God or not. True that no man can pluck us from God's hands ( John 10:28) however we can choose to jump out of His palm. We see the telling "if" in many places in scripture: 1Corinthians 15:1 “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 1Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, IF ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.” It says you are saved IF you (ye) keep in memory what is preached. “Unless you have believed in vain” is not talking about some “false faith” as Calvinism or other doctrines teach. Rather, the concept illustrated is that which we saw above in Romans 11:22-23 and we see in Galatians 6:7-9, 2 Peter 1:9-10, and Colossians 1:22-23 with the “if” being key. We must remember to always compare scripture with scripture. Let us look at these mentioned verses: Galatians 6:7-9 “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. “For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, IF we faint not.” Only those who faint not will reap everlasting life. The one that endures till the end is saved ( Mat 24:13, Mat 10:22, Mark 13:13). 2 Peter 1:9-10 “But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, GIVE DILIGENCE TO MAKE YOUR CALLING AND ELECTION SURE: for IF ye do these things, ye shall never fall:” We see the possibility that one that has been purged of old sin, which can only be a saved person ( the Greek G2512 denotes “purged” as washed, purified, cleansed), can forget and fall. When we look at the Greek for “fall” we see: G4417 πταίω ptaiō ptah'-yo A form of G4098; to trip, that is, (figuratively) to err, sin, fail (OF SALVATION): - fall, offend, stumble. We are prompted to do our part to make our election sure. In addition once again in the verses above we see that important “if.” “If” you do these things” (speaking of kindness, patience, godliness in context) “then you will not fall.” Colossians 1:22-23 “In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: IF YE CONTINUE in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;” If we have no responsibility at all whatsoever after being saved as it pertains to our eternity, these verses (as well as countless others) become unnecessary and actually contradictory. Man has contradicted the bible through doctrines and theologies which are not in the bible. The bible is not contradictory.“Once Saved Always Saved” theory contradicts many scriptures including: 2 Peter 2:20 “For if after they have ESCAPED the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have KNOWN THE WAY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that WAS WASHED to her wallowing in the mire.” This is talking about people that had been saved and through their actions fell away from God. The argument that these people were not saved to begin with is not substantial. “Escaped” shows that they are already forgiven of sin. In addition, the proverb is used as an example to capture the idea with the word “washed” as to express one that has been cleansed from the old sin. Also if this was referring to unsaved people to begin with, one could not have "known the way of righteousness". However here it says, “for it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness,” implying that the way of righteousness was known. The Lord Jesus ( Yeshua) himself gives a parable that is quite revealing. Luk 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. Luke 12: 37 says that those servants who are watching for His coming are blessed. The parable is talking about those that are servants of God in God's Kingdom. In order to serve in God's Kingdom one would have to be a believer and a follower of Christ, otherwise one would not be a servant. So this parable is clearly talking about those in the body of Christ. The parable goes on in Luke 12:42-44 still speaking about servants of God, those who have been born again: Luk 12:42-44 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. Then in the very following verses Jesus describes an alternate scenario for these same servants of God who have been born again. If saved servants decide with their own freewill to fall away and join the world and not be watching for the Lord's coming the portion for them is with the unbelievers: Luk 12:45-46 BUT AND IF THAT SERVANT say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS. The fact that the scripture details that this servant would be appointed his portion with the unbelievers demonstrates that he was not a unbeliever to begin with, again reiterating the fact that this is referring to a previously saved person. The consequence is a result of what the servant reaped through willful disobedience by knowing the Master's will and still rejecting to do it. We can't earn our salvation. We know this: Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” There is no amount of good works, knowledge, mental meditations or physical postures ( as in yoga, my former occult background :)), water baptisms( not that baptism isn't important but rather the simple act of it in itself without true repentance has no power), rituals, chantings, counting of beads, circumcisions..etc none of these things have any power to save. We are saved by grace through faith! All we have to do is accept the gift of salvation from the work already done on the cross. We have the choice to follow God and continue in his truth. We have a responsibility. Let us look at the words of Yeshua ( Jesus): Rev 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Two things to note here. Overcoming involves continuing effort on the part of the overcomer. We have a responsibility to make sure our garments are not defiled ( Rev 3:4). The statement "which have not defiled their garments" demonstrates the responsibility of the overcomers.The ones who make sure that their garments are not defiled are the very overcomers mentioned in the following verse. It is not a passive process of someone who is "eternally secure" after being saved. Also, it seems unlikely that if "once saved always saved" were true that there would be the possibility of one's name being blotted out of the book of life. If someone was "eternally secure" with his/her name being written in the book of life then it could not be blotted out, as that would not be a possibility. The idea of blotting out names is also seen in Deuteronomy 9:14 and Rev 22:19. The fact is we can not save ourselves, it is only through faith that one can be saved, true. However, after we have faith in the work done on the cross and choose to follow Christ we become co-laborers With Him: 1 Corinthians 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.” 2 Corinthians 6:1 “We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.” It is important that believers work and strive in this labor because faith without works is dead: Jas 2:17 Even so FAITH, IF IT HATH NOT WORKS, IS DEAD, BEING ALONE. Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD? May we as born again believers continue on in goodness working for the glory of God, never turning back to our foolish worldly ways again! Psalm 85:8 “I will hear what God the LORD will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and TO HIS SAINTS: but LET THEM NOT TURN AGAIN TO FOLLY.”
this is excellent! the best description I've read. Unfortunately I got tangled up in Folly for several years and now feel that I will never be close to what I had before based on verse in I Peter about putting our Lord to shame for it wud have been better to never have been saved. This is disheartening.
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MANY are called but few are chosen. It's one thing to allow the Lord to finish the work in you He started but if your free will chooses to step outside of His grace and never repent for the sin we all are subject to on this earth, then you chose not to allow the Lord to complete that good work. Work out your salvation, brothers and sisters, with fear and trembling.
God help you if you look to a teacher and do not know the New Testament. There are about 80 warnings about falling away, falling from grace, etc. Trust no man with your soul. Seek them out yourself. Matthew 18: 32 “Then summoning him, his lord said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33‘ Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34 “And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35 “My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.” John 5 14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you.” What is worse than being severely crippled for decades? Hell. Almost everything we know about hell, came from Jesus. Most were warnings to His disciples! James 5:19-20 (ESV) - My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. 2 Peter 2:20-21 (NIV) - If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud." 2. Hebrews 6:4-6 (ESV) - For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. 2 Timothy 2:11-13 (NIV) -Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 if we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us; 13 if we are faithless, he will remain faithful, for he cannot disown himself. (this does not annul verse 12. Jesus remains faithful) John 15: 4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. 5 “I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
Warren McGrew Hi Warren. The Bible says that even our faith to believe God is a gift. We are so depraved that we are not even capable of enough faith within ourselves to believe. Paul says that if we did have enough faith ourselves than we would boast. So, our saving faith is God's faith. He gets all glory. The most difficult thing for us to accept is The Gospel of Jesus Christ. We think God is like us. He is not. He forgives and that is it. It IS finished!
Why do you give only your opinions, your spin on the scriptures? Who should trust you or me? You have been mis-taught as I was. We both have not understand the scriptures. You falsely assume in your words that "we are so depraved that we are not even capable of enough faith within ourselves to believe". You have been captured by Augustine and the later Calvinists.This was a disaster for the church. You will never understand if you believe in original sin. You must understand the beginning of God's first calling, when He dealt with Cain. Genesis 4:3 So it came about in the course of time that Cain brought an offering to the LORD of the fruit of the ground. 4 Abel, on his part also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and for his offering; 5 but for Cain and for his offering He had no regard. So Cain became very angry and his countenance fell. 6 THEN THE LORD SAID TO CAIN, "WHY ARE YOU ANGRY? AND WHY HAS YOUR COUNTENANCE FALLEN? 7 “IF YOU DO WELL", WILL NOT YOUR COUNTENANCE BE LIFTED UP? AND "IF YOU DO NOT DO WELL", sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, "BUT YOU MUST MASTER IT.” 8 Cain told Abel his brother. And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him. Jesus told Cain "“IF YOU DO WELL", WILL NOT YOUR COUNTENANCE BE LIFTED UP?" AND TOLD HIM HE HAD TO MASTER SIN!!! IT WAS UP TO CAIN WHAT HE CHOSE TO DO!!!!! And you say""we are so depraved that we are not even capable of enough faith within ourselves to believe". Not so.
+Warren McGrew Cain and Abel being children of Adam and Eve, still had communion with God. With Cain we witness deliberate disobedience against God, and God put a mark on him for judgement. All of this happened before the law was given to Moses and before the death of Christ in time. Remember, man became worse and worse until God destroyed the entire world by the flood, excepting His choice of Noah and His family, whom God said Noah was found righteous in his time. Faith is a gift of God. Until we are made alive in the Spirit of God we are DEAD in sin. See Eph 2:1 and following verses.
Wow! You are brilliant!. Let me guess. You heard it from an angel of light. And now you are able to change the scriptures. Let me explain to you something. Your words are less than worthless. They are evil.
Blood of The King 1Cor 7:1 ¶ Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. Why not talk to your wife. She has a duty to help you with your lusts. Whether or not she has a sex drive or not, she should be willing to (as a Christian) satisfy your needs as you satisfy hers. That's part of a marriage and part of being a Christian. We think of others above ourselves. We don't want our brothers and sisters to struggle with such things and help where we can. This should be especially true in a marriage. Talk to her with love about this. Do a bible study on the subject with her. I wish you the best. God bless
Eternal life is in Jesus, from Genesis to Revelation. There are ten times more verses and warnings of falling away than once saved always saved. I wish these guys would acknowledge all of scripture.
Hebrews 6:4-6 NKJV For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, [5] and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, [6] if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. Hebrews 10:26-27 NKJV For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, [27] but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
John 10:28 King James Version (KJV) 28" And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
the Lord guides every honest repented heart into his truth. the topic of salvation is very clear in the Bible,it is people who love sin and this world more than God that are confused or decieved.
Amen! Amen! those are the ones deceived nd confuse alllll the time...no matter how u explain they will never understand but its truth...Gods truth. And it can only be known by His Spirit living in you!!!
Piper answered this wonderfully. Those who believe a born again, regenerate Christian can lose his salvation have no idea what it actually means to be saved & in Christ. Those that fall away & never come to repentance were never his to begin with (1john2:19).
Keith Thompson Absolutely true Brother! As a Saved Sinner we have 2 natures. By way of explanation these two natures are like a white dog and a black dog. Whatever dog we feed has the mastery so if a Christian walks in the flesh it overcomes or quenches the spirit but if we walk in the spirit it will overcomes the Flesh! These two natures within a Christian are at war with each other, like Moses and Amalek , until we are in God's presence clothed in our perfect glorified bodies!
+Keith Thompson Funny, I read 1 John 2:18 and he was clearly not speaking about "true and false christians"... But I guess anyone can cherrypick a specific verse to support a view, even if the verse is speaking about something completely different...
+Paul Stevenson There is a war indeed, but the true believer is not subject to the dominion of the sinful flesh as per Rom. 6:12-19. The ominous warning in Rom. 8:13 is that " If ye live after the flesh, ye shall die : but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." The regenerated saint is so led by the Holy Spirit that he/she has the mastery over the fleshly inclinations -- not sinless perfection, but walking in the light as per 1 John 1:6,7 . Christians can choose to feed the black dog but certainly not on a continuum; for that would belie genuine repentance.
+Paul Stevenson A regenerated soul simply cannot continue in sin. Please read 1 John 3:6-10. Those who continue in a life of sin merely demonstrate they are not born again, have not the Holy Spirit, and are not disciplined by the Father to "...yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness..." as per Heb. 12:7-11. Those who are governed by their flesh are not saved. There is no salvation for those who live after the flesh cf. James 1:12-15. The mark of the true believer is refusing the invitation to sin as per James 1:12 -- that is the endurance demanded of God who has purposed to save His people FROM their sins -- not leave them in their sins (see Matt. 1:21). The one persisting in sin has not repented and as the Lord stated, they who do not repent shall perish (Luke 13:3,5).
The real question is whether a born again person will choose to return to a life of sin. Is this outside of the nature of a born again person? I believe creeping compromise is the easiest way for it to happen.
+Tim Lewis What do you mean by "return to a life of sin", because every single Christian has and will sin after being justified. Just read Romans 7, you could hear and almost feel Paul's despair that he continues to wage war against the flesh and follow its laws (by sinning) but that the law of his mind (no doubt in connection with true repentance and related to the truth of Romans 10:10-14) is there as well and because of that we are justified. Sanctification is another part of the totality of salvation, but the two are not the same and I think people confuse the two.
When I was first saved 1984 and before I had learned to look to Christ and not myself I was so completely sickened by how far short my life is (and still is) from the perfect life of Christ that I wanted to give it all up and quit everything Christian but I couldn't do it then and most certainly couldn't do it now because no matter how hard I tried always found myself coming back
Theres no explanation much clearer than that. And the verses were all foundational. May God speak this truth through my mouth as I teaches Pastor in Dumaguete Philippines. Its really a Good News for me might as well to you.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.........
same, one time something of mine has passed away and i was really mad at God, and i never thought about it till like a year ago, and started to fear that maybe i lost it, i never rebuked the Lord, was just extremely mad. anyways, i always think about it. and yeah, thats all. I'm glad im saved through Jesus Christ.
Make sure you approach God the way He expects you to with the right mindset. Prayers work together with what you need to have a resolve to do yourself. You must submit to God. That is essential: James 4:7-8 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. That's what your attitude needs to be when you are going through the process of *repentance* and committing to be obedient to God for the rest of your life (that's the kind of "change of mind" God wants to see). You must sincerely regret having sinned against God, and come to the point of hearing and agreeing 100% with Jesus' message saying, "I do not condemn you, now go and don't sin anymore" (John 8:11). Your obedience as you choose to follow God's ways is key--that's how you show your faith to God (John 3:36, Luke 6:46, Hebrews 3:17-18). That opens the door to receiving his *forgiveness* for your past sins (2 Peter 1:9), *healing* (Luke 5:31-32), *freedom from sin/addictions* (John 8:34-36), and the gift of *a new life* that you will live for God and no longer for sin and the passing things of the world (Romans 6:4, 2 Corinthians 5:17, Galatians 6:15). That is the salvation you must make sure you have experienced: freedom from sin (John 8:36, Romans 8:1-2) versus bondage to sin (John 8:34, Romans 7:23). Approaching God in genuine repentance will lead to you receiving the Holy Spirit to lead you to "walk by the Spirit" (Acts 2:38, Galatians 5:16)--with a pure heart and self-control, which is a fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23). Any habit that controls you reveals idolatry in your heart. You have to choose to be done with that and it will be part of your past. That's one thing that will come out of your commitment to be obedient to God for the rest of your life. Please see 1 Peter 4:1-3 and 1 Thessalonians 1:9. James 1:21-22 21 Therefore, putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with humility the implanted word, which is able to save your souls [that's repentance]. 22 But be doers of the word [that's faith, which implies obedience], and not only hearers, deluding your own selves. Hebrews 5:9 And having been made perfect, He [Jesus] became the author of 👉 *eternal salvation to all those who obey Him [...].* Please stay in the word and obey it (James 1:21-22). The word of God is fuel for your faith. To live as a follower of Jesus you must go out of your way to put the word of God in your heart and keep it there, rejecting all distractions. It's a fight and that's how you need to stand to not fall down. The truth will set you free from all sin (John 8:31-32, 36).
Me Gook we must practice righteousness brother! God bless, Praise the Lord! I have been struggling with sin and God has given me warnings and signs I can still get back up before he leaves me🙏🏻
@@AntonioSaved How about you heretics read John 6:37-39 where he explicitly tells us that He's never going to leave or forsake a believer and none that come to Him shall be lost?
@@AntonioSavedGod NEVER leaves you! Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
@Déjà Siku If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet WALK IN THE DARKNESS, we lie and do not practice the truth; (1 John 1:6) You have mistakenly assumed that WALKING in DARKNESS means to just commit A sin. That is not what the term WALK meant to the ancient Hebrews. Here is the definition of the METAPHORICAL use of the word WALK as recorded in Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology - Walk ...this same verb is more often used throughout the Old Testament and the epistles of the New Testament in a metaphorical way. In this sense it means to follow a certain COURSE OF LIFE or to conduct oneself in a certain way. Many times the verb translated "walk" is present tense in the Greek of the New Testament, which means that the writer is referring to a CONTINUED MODE of CONDUCT or BEHAVIOR. www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/walk/ So you see "walking in darkness" is far more serious than committing a sin and taking a momentary step in the darkness. It means practicing sin as a way of life which is something no Christian should ever do. ............................... You also use the word DELIBERATE [sin] in an apparent attempt to normalize the kind of sin described Hebrews 10:26 If we deliberately go on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no further sacrifice for sins remains, I would say this is talking about something much more serious that committing a sin if for this individual there REMAINS NO MORE SACRIFICE. If there is no more sacrifice for us there is no more forgiveness and cleansing either. ............................... The word "DELIBERATELY" does not mean the person's sin is a choice of the will for EVERY sin is a choice of the will. The word means: to sin WILLFULLY as opposed to sinning inconsiderately, and from ignorance or from weakness. This person does not merely fail in a time of temptation he CHOOSES to sin knowing full well how bad it is biblehub.com/greek/1596.htm ............................... The fact that the word SIN is in the PRESENT TENSE indicates sin that is continual and unremitting which reinforces that the author of Hebrews is referring to a lifestyle of sin. The language of the verse shows that your characterization of the verse as meaning merely committing a sin is inaccurate
@Salt Maker I dogded the question Have you been demon possessed, have experienced hell. Have you experienced God's incredible love flooding your being for years, his incredible peace and power. Romans 5.5 Romans 1.16 John. 14.27. If you have experienced that and way more we could talk.
¡ WRONG ! The one who conquers and who "keeps my works until the end", to him I will give authority over the nations he who overcomes the world is he who keeps the works of Jesus Christ until the end
@@joseyanes8376 Tell me, who is he that conquers? who is it that keeps the works? who is he who overcomes the world? 1 John 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God. If while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
@@underconstruction1093 And he that overcometh, "AND HE THAT KEEPETH MY WORKS UNTO THE END", to him will I give authority over the nations: Revelation 2:26 ASV ¿ can a born again Christian lose salvation ? ¿ what did Paul said ? Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I ( Paul ) do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I MYSELF Will NOT BE DISQUALIFIED FOR THE PRIZE. 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 NIV even more he said : NOT THAT I HAVE ALREADY OBTAINED ALL THIS, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers and sisters, I DO NOT CONSIDER MYSELF YET TO HAVE TAKEN HOLD OF IT. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. Philippians 3:12-14 NIV ¿ Do you realize how you are the opposite of the apostle Paul ? Paul was never sure of his salvation until his death was near : For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 2 Timothy 4:6-7 NIV don't be fooled by false doctrines
@@joseyanes8376 this prize that Paul is talking about is not eternal life. You know that there is nothing you can do to win eternal life, besides trust in the already finished work of Jesus. I encourage you to research those two verses and see what this "prize" is. if you are so sure that the apostles were unsure of their salvation, then what does this mean - "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." - 1 John 5:13. ... that is present tense "have". You can know you have eternal life by examining the fruit in your life. How do you know you really believe the gospel? its by the fruit in your life. If you are truly born again you should be continually repenting, and believing Jesus for the promise. He is the messiah, your deliverer, He alone will do what he promised, which is deliver you to heaven by trusting him alone, and not in your works. Your works are a confirmation of your salvation, but they in themselves wont save you. Christ will save you. No one will be a hero in the end, Jesus is the only hero. No one will be able to say, "I have won the prize of heaven", because that would be boasting. Apostle Paul says "it is by grace you are saved, so that none may boast". Again I hope you research those verses. Romans 5:9 - "Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God." Romans 5:10 - "For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life." so while we were enemies of God we were saved by his blood, much more now that we are justified, shall he save us from His wrath by his life! He will do it for his glory.
@@underconstruction1093 he is talking about the crown of life which symbolizes eternal life and salvation Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee the crown of life. Revelation 2:10 ASV ¿ there is nothing i can do to win eternal life ? Then why the bible says ¿ how shall we escape, if we neglect so great a salvation? Hebrews 2:3 work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; Philippians 2:12 ASV that means you have to take care of your salvation by living a holy life I recommend you to read these passages from the Bible : how the church of ephesus was founded : Acts 19 : 1-6 the church of ephesus receives a solemn warning : Revelation 2:4-5 then to understand the biblical context of the previous passage you have to read : Luke 13:6-9 After you have read it all , I want you to tell me what you understood.
God already knew ahead of time who was going to choose Him...He is the alpha and omega...He called us knowing we would choose Him...so He set a plan in motion to save those He already knew we're going to choose Him in our hearts and confess with our lips...we are sinners who are...SAVED by His GRACE and we receive the GIFT of ETERNAL life...ETERNAL...... folks...
Well the Bible says that all are spiritually dead and nobody seeks after God. So tell me, how can some people choose God while others don't if all are spiritually dead and nobody seeks after God?
It's always easy to look back and say "well they were never really saved" What about the ones that are truly saved/born again and decide, for whatever reason, to walk away?
Justin Lim look at king David. If you can’t call that willful sin I don’t know what is. But he returned with a contrite heart. And the Word says “a contrite heart you will not turn away”. Psalm 51 But with that being said, I do believe there is a point of no return when your heart is hardened to the point that you never will desire repentance. Reprobate mind if you will.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you......
Once you are conceived by your earthly father can you do anything to redo that? answer is no just as you repent and accept God as your heavenly father you can never erase that, no mater how far you walk.
The problem is that the New Birth experience, like a natural birth, cannot be faked because it is the Holy Spirit who places believers into the Body of Christ following a genuine faith response to the Gospel. No one gets into the Church that was not genuinely saved. Still, there is nothing to stop them walking away due to persecution or pressure, although we are encouraged to stand firm during those times. The “they” in I John 2:19 clearly refers to people representing the Antichrist-those who “deny that Jesus is the Christ” and “deny the Father and the Son” (vs. 22-23) These were activists opposing the person, work and mission of Christ, not a believer who is defeated by lust or the pressures of life and decided to abandon his faith. Be careful of teachers who use Scripture out of context!
It is obvious from scripture that salvific grace cannot be taken away from you, and you cannot 'lose' it by mistake. However, it is also obvious from scripture that one can have salvific grace one day, and not the next. So what gives? The word "lose" suggests a passive thing that happens to a person. I don't like this. We do not LOSE salvation, but we can FORFEIT salvation. God forbid that any Christian should, but some have. Instead of bending over backwards to suggest that these people were "never REALLY saved in the first place", it's much easier to show that God abides by our decision to follow Him or reject Him. We don't earn salvation for ourselves, but God gives it to us when we humbly and self-effacingly ask it of Him. Likewise, He takes it away when we demand He leaves.
jeff ouellette Indeed yes, it’s true; but only “...do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh”(Galatians5:13 NIV). And as we have been reminded in the epistles, as we are the temple of God “...and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are”(1 Corinthians 3:16-17).
judged by works, saved by faith. but there is rank is hell and Heaven. God Bless, you, Pastor John...you will shine bright in the age to come. John 8:11 King James Version She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and SIN NO MORE.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you....
John 10:27-29 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”
"Ephesians 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise," Like Charles Stanley once said, you didn't make the seal, you can't break the seal.
Precious Akande having true faith is a work so yes. I wake up every morning and I can chose to sin or put my trust in God. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. I can lose salvation at any moment when I chose to turn away from God.
@@Latinblood First of all...Believing in Jesus isn't a work....U CAN'T LOSE WHAT U NEVER EARNED .. u CAN'T chose to sin if ur truly saved...when ur saved ur dead to urslef and alive in Christ
“Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT your own salvation with FEAR and TREMBLING” -Philippians 2:12 And there are many more Scriptures... Don’t believe this Once Saved, Always Saved lie straight from the pit of Hell...
This doctrine had its root back in the early days of creation. It was first preached to the woman, tricking her saying-*”YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE”.* (Gen. 3:4).
@omar albawab, wrong context. Read the previous chapters as signified by "Therefore". When you see the word "therefore", there was a discussion prior to it so that you would see the whole context. "Work out your salvation", means, Paul is admonishing to continue what you started in faith. Work out your own salvation (you are already saved). Paul did not say, "work out FOR your own salvation". There is only ONE SAVIOUR and that is Jesus Christ and what He had done on the cross is sufficient for all our sins, past, present and future. There is no such thing as "there is Jesus Christ who saved me one time and then THERE IS ME TO KEEP ME SAVED". How many saviour(s) you got? What will you do if you committed sin again? Do good works? You cannot save yourself! Our righteousnesses are as filthy as rags (Isaiah 64:6). If you think you can keep yourself saved, you put a mockery of Christ's death on the cross as the ultimate sacrifice. Now, of course, the argument doesn't stop. I know what's coming. Let me quote something from gotquestions.org: "Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4)." In summary: Salvation = by faith (once and forever). Good works/obedience = fruits of the Holy Spirit (evidence that you are already saved not the way to be saved). God bless.
@@dudzdigital6140 I partly believe your prepositions in answer to the two objections you mentioned in your comment. First, that true believers in the Lord do not continue to live in a sinful lifestyle (1 John 3:9). However, I believe you misrepresented the message of 1 John 2:19. These false teachers claimed to be believers, but were not. John explains why: "if they had been of us, they would have continued with us." John uses the idea of "continuing" to refer to ongoing or repeated action. Those who did not last in the faith, particularly those who claimed to be leaders in the church, but turned against God, were literally against Christ or antichrists. John adds, "But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." This abandonment of the faith offered proof or evidence that these false teachers were not true believers (1 John 2:22-23). In contrast with those who had been anointed (1 John 2:20), these false teachers did not have God's Spirit within them. They did not know the truth (1 John 2:21), denied Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22), and deceived others (1 John 2:26). Lastly, true and genuine believers do not mean they cannot forsake the faith if they choose. Thus, John is firm in his admonition: as he wrote saying *"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked".* Because of the freedom of will to choose that God gave, men can freely choose whether to obey God or not. As God gave us the free will to him before we became Christians, that free will was not taken from us after we became his children. We can still fall from salvation if we choose to deny our faith in Christ. And there is no Biblical reference to support the idea that true believers cannot choose to decide whether to continue with God or not after they have been justified of their faith in Christ. In fact, what we read in Romans 11:22 is the exact opposite, which says --"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." This is the exact analogy described by the Lord in John 15:1-10. If you can figure this out, kindly consider the following points: *ONLY* a saved person can depart from the faith, 1 Tim. 4:1, 16; 5:12; 2 Tim. 2:17, 18; 4:3, 4; Jam. 5:19, 20 *ONLY* a believer can stop believing, Luke 8:13; Acts 8:13, 21-23; 1 Tim. 1:18, 19; 6:10, 21; Heb. 10:38 *ONLY* a saved person is in danger of not remaining in the Lord, John 8:31; 15:4-6; Acts 11:13; 1 John 2:24; 2 John 1:9 *ONLY* a branch inserted into the Vine can wither, John 15:6; Rom. 11:20-22 *ONLY* a spiritually alive/saved person can die spiritually again. (the unsaved are already spiritually dead Eph. 2:1, 5) Rom. 8:11-13; 1 Cor. 8:11; 1 Tim. 5:6; Jam. 1:14-16; John 5:16; Rev. 3:1, 2 *ONLY* the saved can stop following God, John 6:66; 10:27; Matt. 10:38; Heb. 3:12; 2 Pet. 2:15 *ONLY* those in grace can fall from grace, 2 Cor. 6:1; Gal. 5:4; Heb. 12:15 *ONLY* someone who loves the Lord can abandon his love for Him, Matt. 10:37; John 15:10; Rev. 2:4 *ONLY* a saved person can deny knowing the Lord, Matt. 10:33; 26:34, 35; 2 Tim. 2:12; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 1:4 *ONLY* a saved person can lose his holiness and with it his future inheritance, 1 Cor. 9:27; 10:12; 15:33, 34; 2 Cor. 6:16-18; 7:1; Gal. 6:1, 7, 8; Ph. 3:18, 19; Heb. 12:14-17; 2 Pet. 1:9-11; 3:17 *ONLY* a saved person is in danger of returning to the sinful ways of the world from where the Lord delivered him, 2 Tim. 4:10; Jam. 4:4; 2 Pet. 2:20-22; 1 John 2:15 *ONLY* a saved person is in danger of losing his perseverance, Acts 14:22; Rom. 2:6-10; Col. 1:21-23; 1 Tim. 2:15.
@@paeng46 we can debate all day throwing verses at each other without grasping the entirety of what these verses really mean, to whom they were addressed to (Jews or Gentiles or both) and to which biblical era they were directed to (past, present or future). I realized we are like the 6 blind men trying to describe an elephant (hope you know that story). Regardless of your denomination biases, please, please, watch this video about biblical dispensation. I understood the verses that support faith+ works and those verses that support faith only, all the more. There was a point in time that one could lose his/her salvation (must be faith + works) but not under grace (the church age -- faith only). However, after the church is raptured, salvation will be once again faith + works. Then during the millennium reign when Christ will be seen by everyone, salvation is no longer by faith but by works only. Why? I don't want to be a spoiler. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/GI4CteEFxOk/v-deo.html I know it is rather lengthy but if you are a seeker of the truth, it's worth it. Thanks and God bless.
Our pastor has been preaching Exodus for weeks and I want to share something with you. We know the Passover in Exodus is like our salvation through Jesus Christ. God’s people are ultimately saved by the covering and blood of Jesus Christ, the lamb of God. However there is an added symbol of the leaven wedged in within the story of the Passover we ought not to overlook. The leaven symbolizes sin, and in the New Testament, God tells us leaven can spread like sin and can even be a small bit which can expand and grow into the whole dough lump. The people were instructed by God to remove every single trace of leaven within their homes, lest they be CUT OFF. This is an action we must take in accordance to the Will and leading of God to do something to remove sin in our lives. We are called to be holy as He is Holy. The salvation of the blood of Jesus is not complete without the repentance from sin and the acts to rid our lives of that sin. So yes a lamb can be slain for you but if you ignore the command to remove sin from your life you may be placed with the hypocrites. The New Testament talks about the leaven which is of Malice and hypocrisy. We do not want to be placed with the hypocrites or cut off from the land of the living God. We need to be much more careful in working out our salvation and daily seek His face and Will. The “once saved always saved” doctrine is lacking if all you do is take the Passover lamb but fail to remove the leaven/sin during that period of time you may be placed with the hypocrites and cut off.
That's true. You need daily faith by grace to apply the blood of jesus on your live his forgivness and by faith you are justified. Faith isnt once and then for always but ongoing.
Yes! You have to overcome, otherwise the Lord can spit you out of His mouth and "blot" your name out of the Book of Life (Rev 3:5 & 16; 21:7-8). Wake up church!
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.........
Not just 2 minutes ago I watched your videos on willful continually sin you referenced Esau loosing his salvation in the book of Hebrews !!! I would like some clarification!!!!!
@christocentric Thanks. That teaching is correct. So-called eternal security or "once saved always saved" is false. But Catholicism does not get anyone to be "once saved" in the first place. And I am not saying so-called Reformers are guaranteed to lead anyone to true Biblical redemption either.
1 Corinthians 9:24-27 24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win. 25 Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 26 Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air; 27 but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.
@@kevinhanes2808 Well no he's giving you an idea of how dedicated and disciplined he was. He is giving you an idea of Olympic athletes and their dedication. He is trying to paint a picture or give you an idea of how committed he was to Christ and the Gospel. That's how I interpreted it
Notice how the guy speaking quotes scripture all the way through and is in doing so glorifying God, because that's what the bible does-his commentary glorifies God because it shows what being a child (by adoption) means according to the scriptures. It's God that is our salvation as long as we play our part he gets us through because we have the Holy spirit, your commentary to this come was I, I, I... Na mate God gets you through each and every second of the day and my bible tells me Satan is proud... Listen to the verses this guy quotes and study them. Blessings
@Tomcloud I agree Tom, but salvation is not based on our actions, it is based on what God did for man, This faith I put in God saved me. Yes I did NOT deserve it. But he came for ALL of men. OSAS means we believe in the finished works of the cross Jesus did to save man. It takes nothing away from the word of God. God Bless you Tom & your family.
All Christians believed it is possible to lose your salvation until in the 15th century John Calvin formulated the doctrine Permanent Salvation. One simply cannot ignore explicit verses taught in the Scripture that it is possible to fall away from faith.
It is the true that God secures the elect, but it is also true at the same time if a Christian deliberately chooses to sin against his conscience time after time, that he may drift away from the faith.
If your truly born again you don’t want to deliberately sin, your flesh will still crave sin but your spirit that is saved don’t want to sin.
PairBear
That is correct! Now if that Christian permits sin and unbelief to harden their hearts, then you have a falling away. The bible is clear on that!
@@AG4runner
Yes, this is the gospel. The good news of God's deliverance from sin and death.
A man that says he sins not is a false religion.
@@jace76ful
A person that keeps on sinning and does not really repent is delusional.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
When you fall, and you have a strong desire to repent that is the evidence of your salvation.
Can you show us where it says in the Bible? The only way to salvation is Jesus Christ.
The Bible is full of scriptures that encourage living a Godly life and warns of the consequences for those that don't. If those that choose to live a life in opposition to God will be judged accordingly, how can once saved, always saved be accurate? What's the incentive for living a life based on scripture if everyone has the same outcome? Most people that habitually commit serious sins have accepted Christ. With that said, how could a Godly person's fate and a habitual sinners fate be the same? Anyone sincerely repenting, turning away from their bad deeds and asking for forgiveness can be forgiven. However, that has nothing to do with being saved. Matthew 24:13 is very clear. It says, "the one who has endured to the end will be saved".
@@KamperFish Hi Matt! That's an excellent question. Anyone can be forgiven. Jehovah reads hearts and he knows when a person is sincerely repenting and truly desires to turn away from his or her sins. He even provides us with his Holy Spirit to assist us in doing his will. He knows that we're dust and will sin daily. The goal is not to repeatedly commit deliberate sins. Remember that King David was a murderer and an adulterer. However, Almighty God understands the true attitude and motive behind sins. Rather than have David condemned to death by human judges according to the Mosaic Law, Jehovah mercifully intervened, dealing with David and Bath-sheba himself.
As long as we recognize our sinfulness, repent of our errors, earnestly beseech Jehovah for forgiveness, and ask him to create in us a pure heart, he hears and forgives. (Ps. 51:10) Never forget that Jehovah is as he described himself to Moses-“a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth, preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin.” Jehovah has not changed.-Ex. 34:6, 7. Remember that God is greater than our hearts. He loves us and is always looking for a reason to forgive us.
@Matt Fisher.. Those that choose to live in opposition to Christ...maybe are not truly saved. True belivers want to honor God and follow his instructions...and repent when they stumble.
@@diroberts4075 That's true. MOST people are interested in what others think of them. As Christians, though, what Jehovah thinks of us is much more important. After all, he is the greatest Person in the universe, and with him is “the source of life.”-Psalm 36:9.
The apostle Peter explained that to have Jehovah’s approval, we need to have “holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion.” (2 Peter 3:11.) Our “acts of conduct” are holy only if we live a clean life in every way. This includes the way we think, act, and worship God. Also, we need to have “deeds of godly devotion” motivated by deep love and respect for God. So it's not only our actions, but also our feelings about God that matter to him. Jehovah is the “examiner of the heart,” so he knows whether our actions are holy and whether we worship only him.
www.jw.org/en/publications/books/good-news-from-god/#?insight
I “fell away” when I was 18 due to severe depression and then turned to drugs cope. Well 8 years later I’m finally sober and free from it all, about 3 months into sobriety the fear of God hit me like a train and pretty much has put me on my knees for 4 months. I’m now going on 8 months sober and I’ll tell you what, it’s like God has said to me “don’t you dare ever leave me again”. Hebrews absolutely terrifies me now. I’m just gonna stay this time. Haha
"The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom", praise God He took you back. I was not born again but a similar story with drugs and depression and if God did not save me I would probably end my life, thank God He gave me purpose to life!!
Amen brother!! So happy to read you’re delivered from drugs. I see first hand all the time the crippling grip that drugs have. Praise the Lord for your freedom! Remain in the one who saved you, God bless you brother. See you in the clouds one day :)
This puts a smile on my face. Glad to hear you've fled drugs and run to christ instead. And Hebrews terrifies me as well, that book will sober you up fast. Glod bless you
AMEN brother. God keep you under his wing.
Just a heads up I’m over 13 months sober! And basically I learned once your His, your His. Only someone who is saved would even care about losing their salvation. Just let go, He has you. I wasted so many months worried I wasn’t saved anymore. Once your His, your His.
I just want to warn anyone who wonder if you can lose your salvation, I personally had a vision while at work of me personally losing my salvation due to constant sin, the vision was clear enough to stop me in the middle of working. I don't do drugs nor drink. There is nothing more important or valuable than your personal relationship with the Lord. Don't let anyone fool you to thinking that constant sin is OK. There is nothing on this planet worth risking your relationship with Him. Please I'm begging you to stay focus and be obedient to the Lord and His will, don't be lukewarm🙏
Wow it is so refreshing to hear somebody actually speak truth and what the Bible actually teaches. It’s becoming increasingly rare in these last days to see people taking a stand for the truth. It’s getting hard to find anybody on UA-cam who teaches about endurance and remaining in Christ because everybody wants their ears tickled and just to hear that they are find no matter what they do. Along with being called by God, this is the reason I just started my UA-cam channel to deal with these EXACT same issues that are so misunderstood in the church today. I just couldn’t hardly find any good teaching on it so I just thought well I guess I’ll just have to put out my own. God bless and hold fast to the Lord your God! 😀
Oh and BTW I had a vision about that as well. I was stuck in constant unforgiveness and hatred over about a year period and I grew very hateful angry and bitter. God finally gave me a vision of him holding me over a cliff, and below there was a lake of fire. He said to me it’s your choice, do you want me to let go? There was a heavy weight to it and I knew there would be eternal consequences if I told him yes. And the crazy thing is I actually thought about saying yes because I was so hateful inside! But I ended up saying no and he pulled me back over the cliff and then said “then follow and obey me!”.
What was the vision like?
God will never give you a vision that will contradict scripture. If you are born-again, your salvation is assured; it is an eternal work.
The Lord has made it clear that those who are lukewarm Christians will be rejected. We all must understand what He means by this and make sure we submit ourselves to His will.
I thank God and his only begotten son Jesus Christ who died for my sins. Amen
Amen
John 2*
The bible warns that some will depart from the faith in the latter days ( you can’t fall away/de[art unless you were a part of it to begin with). The Bible warns about Backsliding (you can’t back slide if you didn’t slide forward to begin with). Also, there is reference to people’s name being blot of the book of life (your name can’t be blot out unless it was written first). Don’t forget there are numerous verses that state the following people will not inherit the Kingdom of God- For instance. 1 Corinthians 6:9 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. If sin wasn’t a big deal then why would Jesus say this Matthew 18: 8“If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into [b]hell fire. If you sin you are of the devil (1 John 8:44) when you ask God to change your life and you put in your own effort (James 4:7) then you are adopted into the family. God is Holy so you must be Holy, you need to enter the narrow gate and aim to be perfect as the Father is perfect; you will be sanctified and changed overtime and conformed to the image of Jesus. If you are born again you can still fall away ; Jude refers to it as being twice dead. Remember in revelation it states the devil makes war with those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ and keep the commandments of God. Now most people do one without the other; for instance, lukewarm Christians (Rev 3:16) have the testimony of Jesus but are living in intentional sin. Jews keep the commandments of God but do not have the testimony of Jesus. God requires both! Ivan tuttle went to Hell and Heaven and he said there are way too many Christians who believed in Once saved always saved, Eternal Security so they had Intentional Sin they didn’t repent of pornography, lying, stealing, fornication etc Please see the video ua-cam.com/video/GsZCouCzT0U/v-deo.html (2 Cor 5:17 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.)
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......
@@pastorjohn2780 stop. You have been exposed
what saddens me when i read all these comments is the fact that when we as christians differ from interpretation of the holy scriptures we tend to lose respect for one another. We forget that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ. Let us, when we address one another, do it with respect unto each other. Many of us will call some pastor false or a doctrine false or the other way around, How do you know for sure that your interpretation is the correct one. It is best to accept that you do not need that any one teaches you except the holy spirit. Let us comment, rebuke, teach in love to one another instead of getting personal and insult someones christian denomination version. Do not get personal, it is not our job to save a person but the Lord's. Let us not tie a yoke around our own necks but let us worship God the almighty in spirit because it is a beautifull thing to do. If someone rejects your version of interpretation, thats fine because its that persons choice. You have done your part in teaching, exhorting to that person. We all know the devils plan is to seek kill and destroy and to decieve so why fall for it. We as brothers and sisters in Christ are all bonded together through his love.So let us treat one another with respect.
Wayne Links were saved by grace through faith praise god
Well said!!!!!!!! It hurts to give your opinion and someone attack you and say your going to hell because you don’t truly believe or arnt truly saved we will never 100% understand every scripture and that’s the way God intended it I think he knows that ALL of us will not fully grasp what it is truly meant to say and you can take one sentence and make it mean a thousand things so just because some people believe down to the core that they are correct in the end it’s not meant for them to know it all God will not punish us for taking a verse the wrong way we need to work together to figure out what we can and agree to disagree sometimes and move on the the next verse I do believe that if you pray enough God will eventually give you answers God knows our hearts and to me that’s what matters to him most our hearts what do they truly carry how do we treat others our neighbors our family our friends and most important strangers! Stop fighting it’s not worth it! God didn’t give us the holy word to fight and get mean with one another about I believe he wrote it as a personal message and that every believer can take it the way God sees fit for that particular time in ones life how do we not know that his messages arnt meant In Different ways for all of us? I can write I love you to my husband and my best friend and a stranger and my kids and mean it 4 different ways God is amazing so if I can take 3 words and make them mean something different for 4 difference people don’t think he can’t take a whole book and do the same for a billion!!! I Love you all God bless?
Wayne Links simply agree to disagree however, I watched a great video last night called The Law versus grace, deception... by watchman on the wall, awsome!!!! Watch whole thing and then think it over
Wayne Links Galatians 1:8. 2 Peter 1:20. 2 Peter 3:15. How many times are we warned of false teachers WHO CAN DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT
OSAS IS OF SATAN
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Faith in Jesus + Repentance = Salvation ! You must be Born Again with Holy Spirit! 💗
It’s more like: Faith in Jesus= salvation + repentance + works
@@lyssalouise2705 You need works to be saved?
@@thelionofjudah77u82 no I’m saying that faith gives the result of our works. Faith alone through grace alone saves.
@@thelionofjudah77u82 No I believe they are saying, as a result of faith good works will be produced.
@@lyssalouise2705 Then you have just defeated your first formula of Faith in Jesus= salvation + repentance+ works
That's not faith alone.
Which is why it crumbles when someone asks you (and someone did) "so you need works?"
Faith alone should be faith alone, no more. Add something else and you'd be negating yourself.
I used to want to go to heaven. I believed for over 30 years in the Trinity. After a fallout with my son I felt alone. I realized I loved my son more than anything. Once I put God number one in my life the depression I suffered from for 20 years started to dissipate. About a year and a half later while praying for my son to come to faith the miracle of being baptized in the Holy Spirit happened to me. I now know as this Pastor says I am sealed with knowing my destination. Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
Salvation is putting your faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. Repent means to turn away to be in agreement with God. Saved people do not rationalize their sins.
Very well said, His true people don't rationalize sin. We call it out even in our own lives and ask God to help us rid ourselves of it. If we have the Spirit living within us, then sin should offend us as much as it does Him, and the Word says He hates sin.
Amen !!
+David Fleming
unless you decide to stop believing. You fool yourself if you think anything different.
No! Repent means change your mind and nothing more nothing less!
AMEN!!! Well said Joe.
“If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.”
John 15:6 NIV
“If you do not remain”
Jamie Carson
I agree. Amen. It’s just what the Apostle Paul said to the Galatians- “who has bewitched you that you should not *OBEY* the truth (3:1)?
I could not agree more the Bible clearly says that we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling,
There are too many examples in the bible that tell us we have to remain faithful for this to still be brought up and believed by the lost.
There is so much Biblical evidence. How can your name be blotted out of the book of life unless it is actually possible?
Truth Grace it is possible
As someone who was recently born again i know my mind has been renewed and the Holy spirit now leads and teaches me praise be to God thank you my Lord
Welcome to the family of God's children. Stay in God's word to be able to recognize false prophets (1 John 4:1). They are everywhere teaching lies.
@@yestothetruth yep preaching osas. Or that Christ is just man.
The problem with this generation is that they want their ears tickled,,
"I am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day". He saved me, not me myself, so if my salvation was something that could be lost that would be Him losing it not me, and we know he is perfect and cannot break his Word.
DARELL CANUP
Amen🙏🏾
Amen brother, well said
@MyKail Lewis We are saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13,4:30) Meaning not even God will break the seal, you are saved until you are redeemed on the day of redemption in heaven
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
@@pastorjohn2780
That is great !!
Research this one folks. GAMBLE with eternity, really?
Your not alone ,we all struggle with something. Keep moving forward in faith and obedience..Love God, love each other
But there is no gamble, Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
@Felix Mitchell First of all, we are under Grace. Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
How can a saved persons name be blotted out? Jesus says, John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Pretty simple huh?
Can Jesus blot out a saved persons name? No, Why? He says he wont!
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Who is a (overcomer)? Who? 1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? See it? Can you? A overcomer IS a saved person.
You cannot even refute the Holy Spirit! Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, How long is the believer sealed for?
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Now on your actions, Salvation is NOT based on your actions. What actions did you have if you are saved? Either you accepted Jesus or not right? What works is that? NONE!
Now on sins, Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; See it? Can you understand these four verses? If so, tell me what sins are NOT nailed to the cross.
Now, look ,,,,,1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Jesus is MY ADVOCATE! How can he be the prosecutor when he REPRESENTS ME? I think you are warning me about the false doctrine YOU are posting. YOU been warned. Get saved & stop posting Jesus cannot save. He can. He will.
Vincent without holiness no man shall see the Lord....the Israelists were saved from Egypt but did not enter the promised land due to their sin and turn away from God.....so you can not lose your salvation as it is a gift and not of our own doing but we risk not entering our promised land which is heaven if we keep sinning and have no repentance....I think ppl who follow once saved always saved are folks who just keep on sinning and don’t repent. But if we do repent Jesus accepts is with open arms after we sin. Paul has a thorn in his side that God simply says His grace is enough. So this topic is a slippery slope but be warned that we are told without holiness no man shall see the lord and we are told that many will come to God on the last day professing they knew God saying “Lord Lord” I pray none of us will be in that category in Jesus name. If anything trying to live a Holy life does nothing wrong. If once saved always saved is true then we have nothing to worry about, but if your wrong ooooo boy
BigGucciSosaBaby DCUO Osas is the true doctrine biblically
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?"
Answer: First, the term Christian must be defined. A “Christian” is not a person who has said a prayer or walked down an aisle or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what makes a Christian. A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9).
So, with this definition in mind, can a Christian lose salvation? It’s a crucially important question. Perhaps the best way to answer it is to examine what the Bible says occurs at salvation and to study what losing salvation would entail:
A Christian is a new creation. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!” (2 Corinthians 5:17). A Christian is not simply an “improved” version of a person; a Christian is an entirely new creature. He is “in Christ.” For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be destroyed.
A Christian is redeemed. “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:18-19). The word redeemed refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. We were purchased at the cost of Christ’s death. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase of the individual for whom He paid with the precious blood of Christ.
A Christian is justified. “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1). To justify is to declare righteous. All those who receive Jesus as Savior are “declared righteous” by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and “un-declare” what He had previously declared. Those absolved of guilt would have to be tried again and found guilty. God would have to reverse the sentence handed down from the divine bench.
A Christian is promised eternal life. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Eternal life is the promise of spending forever in heaven with God. God promises, “Believe and you will have eternal life.” For a Christian to lose salvation, eternal life would have to be redefined. The Christian is promised to live forever. Does eternal not mean “eternal”?
A Christian is marked by God and sealed by the Spirit. “You also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory” (Ephesians 1:13-14). At the moment of faith, the new Christian is marked and sealed with the Spirit, who was promised to act as a deposit to guarantee the heavenly inheritance. The end result is that God’s glory is praised. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to erase the mark, withdraw the Spirit, cancel the deposit, break His promise, revoke the guarantee, keep the inheritance, forego the praise, and lessen His glory.
A Christian is guaranteed glorification. “Those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified” (Romans 8:30). According to Romans 5:1, justification is ours at the moment of faith. According to Romans 8:30, glorification comes with justification. All those whom God justifies are promised to be glorified. This promise will be fulfilled when Christians receive their perfect resurrection bodies in heaven. If a Christian can lose salvation, then Romans 8:30 is in error, because God could not guarantee glorification for all those whom He predestines, calls, and justifies.
A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and God’s gifts are “irrevocable” (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God cannot lie (Titus 1:2).
Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4).
Nothing can separate a child of God from the Father’s love (Romans 8:38-39). Nothing can remove a Christian from God’s hand (John 10:28-29). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, “when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home” (Luke 15:5-6). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home.
Jude 24-25 further emphasizes the goodness and faithfulness of our Savior: “To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.”
The word Christian isn't in the bible.
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 nvm I did my research and why are you mad?
Amen! Godbless
Tyler Strombom: You did a masterful job of presenting half of the story. Now, why don't you present the other half and then harmonize the two halves so that there are no contradictions? You made a small attempt at that when you mentioned two common objections. Your response indicates that you instinctively know that OSAS cannot possibly be true. You recognize that true Christians cannot live a life of sin. So the way you get around this is to declare that all Christians that fall into a life of sin were never saved to begin with. Who made you God that you can pronounce such a judgement? You define a Christian this way: "A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit" Then you proclaim that those Christians were never saved when they deliberately keep on sinning. Seems to me the only justification for saying this is to say (contrary to scripture) that once you are saved, you no longer have free will and therefore you CANNOT live a life of sin after conversion.
You have more homework to do. (hint: it is not hard to harmonize the scriptures if you truly will believe and accept them all as true)
BTW- I have never seen a OSAS believer attempt to harmonize the scriptures. They all w/o fail try to explain away scriptures they do not agree with. You can start with this one:
Hebrews 10:26-29 (NIV)
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
How can that verse be true and all the scriptures you expounded also be true?
God bless you in your study.
gamewinner some say that verse is talking about people who aren’t christians and Reject the Word of God
I agree 💯 we are SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS ! We are sanctified throughout our lifetimes. We still mess up but feel immediately feel bad about it ! God is faithful when we are faithless, it is my grace you are saved through faith , not by works lest any man should BOAST ❤️ and ✝️🛐 s
You can't lose your salvation because the bible says "and they are in my father's hands and no one can pluck them out of his hands"
that's not what it means, friend...study further
well said! that is what it means!
The Bible ALSO says "every tree which does not bear fruit will be cut off". Quoting an isolated verse out of context doesn't exhaust the TOTALITY of the biblical witness on any given issue. For example, the pericope on the judgment of the nations (cf. Matthew 25: 31-46) makes clear there are people who go through life believing they are saved (Lord, Lord, did we not.....Depart from Me for I NEVER knew you), and yet AREN'T. They may have had faith, but then did not persevere until the end.
exactly and in Rom 8:1 says for those in Christ there is NO condemnation. .
Yeah exactly, He says, "I NEVER knew you". Which is to say, you were NEVER saved.
Yes, you speak truth. The holy spirit leads us into all truth. I'm saved by Grace through faith. Amen brother
Great teaching, thank you very much for sharing. May God Bless you, your loved ones, and everyone who hears this message. Maranatha!
Got baptized 2 days ago, strange that this was on my mind yesterday. And to think I got this in my recommendation is definitely God answering my questions! Thank you
I encourage you to study and not lean one man's word. If you are not being alert to discern who is speaking the truth or not in this hour of deception, you will be deceived. God wants you to seek Him diligently. If you truly felt that you did that and were done seeking for the answers to the questions you had once you saw this recommendation, then ok. But if you are inclined to keep on studying the matter and pray for God's guidance and confirmation, I invite you to take a look at this:
Can You Lose Your Salvation?
yestothetruth.blogspot.com/2019/07/can-you-lose-your-salvation.html
As a new believer, I advise you to be on high alert and abide in the love of Jesus; don't go outside of it and all will be well.
John 15:10
If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
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I think this is a very good interpretation of the Word. I believe a born-again believer won't "lose" salvation once he's saved, but there's a big danger: Many people falsely think they are already saved and use that as an excuse to keep sinning in the lack of fear of God. For that reason, "once saved always saved" is a phrase that must be used carefully, to not lead people into hell.
Amen to that!!
God bless you but once save always save is not true. The Bible tells us to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Your salvation is something you work on daily with the help of the Holy Spirit not by your own strength. Being saved does not automatically mean one is going to heaven. We first must be saved, then transformed by the Holy Spirit and become disciples of Christ. It’s crucial to have a personal relationship with God through the Holy Spirit. God bless you.
Most Christians where I live lack fear of God, because they think they are already saved and don't need to fear hell anymore, which leads to them not really taking sin seriously. David Pawson's interpretation was that salvation is not a an immediate moment but a the process of us getting rid of sin, as we grow in faith with the help of our Lord. That kinda resonates with me. One thing is sure: while we don't deserve salvation by our good deeds, faith without works is still dead. God bless you too.
@@gabbytarlue1561 i have lost relationship
@@original_golden_egg i didn't listen to it all. I believe salvation is immediate. You don't work your way into it. Those born again crucify their flesh. Paul said mortify your members. Sanctification is also a process. Therefore being justified. Is at one point in time as well as progressive. Isaac was a child of promise it had nothing to do with his choices. We are children of promise. We became that by faith. In the operation of God who raised Christ from the dead. God's promise to the seed of abraham was unconditional from my perspective. Because Paul said the law cannot disannul the promise. And if you are Christ you are that seed. So once you receive that seed. The Holy spirit the inheritance is irrevocable. That's how I see it. It also lines up with eternal life being a gift.
I think what john piper is saying is correct! If someone is genuinely saved that person will be carried on until the last day, Gods spirit will never leave them, they are SEALED in the spirit! If a true born again christian does stray off and live in sin, that person will never be happy in sin and will always come back eventually in repentance. If someone who says they are a born again christian and then falls away and strays into a life of sin, but they are perfectly happy to be there and do not feel any loss or pain in being there, then yes, I'd say that person was in fact never saved to begin with!
Cuzybing I agree.
What if I was tricked into being saved as a kid? Can I give it back?
Cuzybing
Yes, a believer can lose his salvation; but that assumption, falls on the pretext that if you will not remain faithful to God and forsake Him, then you will lose your salvation. Our own freedom of will to choose God is the reason. God gave us the freedom to choose Him before we became Christians. That freedom was never taken from us when we became Christians. The Spirit (read John 16:13) does not control us like automatons or robots against our will. One can certainly choose to deny his faith and forsake God if he wants, based on his own freedom of choice. God didn't force us to choose Him (for that is compulsion) when we first put our faith on Him, neither will He force us not to leave if we want because of our freedom of will. Every writer in the Bible warned us somewhere that we need to continue in the faith. The condition is that God will keep us to Himself if we continue to keep our faith in Him. This is called "Balance Of God's Calling To Salvation". So, can a Christian lose his salvation? The answer is YES; if he disobey God and forsake Him.
Cuzybing remember in the book of Acts the first church all of them had the Holy Spirit, remember the couple where the action was filled with the Holy Spirit and one of them lied the husband lot holding part of the money he gave up The Ghost and died, because he lied to the holy spirit in which he was filled with. So do he still go to heaven, because that's an example of losing your salvation. Also look at the seven letters to the seven churches, that was Christ Church and one of them was full of Abominations that got rejected, they were his churches. Jesus said Satan cannot cause you to lose your salvation, he never said that he himself won't reject you. Remember Jesus said he chose you so he can also reject you like he told Peter get behind me Satan you are an offense to me and that one example where Jesus lost sight of the things of God
Being "SEALED" by the Spirit is a silly and weak excuse. The author of Hebrews clearly wrote:
"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST"
So, that "sealed" stuff is an over exaggeration and a lie. The Spirit does NOT allow Himself to be grieved, NOR does He strive with men forever. If someone wants to go back into willing and unrepentant sin, that is their backsliden downfall.
"Which have FORSAKEN the right way, and are GONE ASTRAY, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; ... For if after they have ESCAPED THE POLLUTIONS of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, THEY ARE AGAIN ENTANGLED therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to TURN from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." - Peter
It's really obvious: those who disagree with this speaker are in Christ and are of the faith and are born of the Spirit. Those who agree with the speaker are not.
Thanks for preaching the truth. Only blood takes away sin and nothing else, only the sacrifice of Christ did it. We cannot undo it, because it relies on the performance of our Saviour and not ours. Someone may decide in their mind to abandon the faith but the Spirit will forever be there whispering and guiding:)
God's love
Nicolas
Thabk you Father for saving me, a person who was utterly depraved and lost, thank you for taking me into your arms and giving me the faith to stand strong, thank you Jesus for your sacrifice that I may wear the breastplate of righteousness! Abba!
“…The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.”
2 Chronicles 15:1-2 KJV
Jesus said "I will never leave you". And "I am with you even to the end of the age". And "whosoever comes to me I will in no wise cast out".
Such an important teaching, yet dangerous when put in the hands and off the tongue of a wrong "preacher". May this serve as an invitation to you to openly study this teaching further. Peace!
Thanks Pastor John. Once God opens your eyes to the Truth, there is no way back from that because the impact of realising God is real and Jesus did died for you, on the Cross and satan has been lying to you all your life, that Truth is bigger than massive and you can't turn back from that and here I was thinking I'd lost my salvation. Thanks again Pastor John for those encouraging words.
“But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:24 NKJV
Is this referring to actual death or spiritual death, though? Because I’ve heard that, if you don’t follow God in this life, but are still saved, He can choose to bring you to Heaven early. This is a genuine question, so, please don’t get angry with me or anything. I just know that there’s two types of death and they’re both technically mentioned in the Bible.
@@oncergirl6600 here it's about spiritual death. Our Lord is a Spirit and He Lives in a spiritual Kingdom...
jean-yves MawuTion
My friend, it speaks of the physical death that the wicked man will suffer in the hands of God (v.18). That is a customary language used by people in the Old Testament times. Verse 9 expressly says that the wicked “shall die in his iniquity”; as Proverbs 2:22 asserts- “the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it”.
Oncer Girl
Not to mention Ezekiel was written way before Christ made His new covenant
@@oncergirl6600 Everyone dies, so this is concerning eternity. Heaven, or tormenting hell and the Lake of Fire forever. It ties in to the scripture that reads, those who endure to the end shall be saved. The one who fell away, didn't endure to the end, and went to hell, and the one who did righteousness one day, he didn't have to endure long, only a day, but he went to heaven. He was possibly one day away from hell. God is good.
The whole bible is a book of salvation, even the OT. God will show one, if they sincerely ask Him, with a good heart, or good intent.
He maintains our salvation-He preserves all things by the word of his power. We've died to sin-we're dead. His life is all that keeps us going now.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......
Indeed. There can be no returning to the old self since the old self died with Christ. We DIED with him.
Excellent preaching. Praise the Lord.
What such a beautiful news is this
A blessed assurance in our Lord’s faithfulness for He sustains us that we do not loose our hope and our salvation in Him.
Baruch Atah Adonai, Eloheinu Melech Ha’Olam, Sh’hecheyanu, V’Kiyemanu, V’Higianu LaZman HaZeh.
Praised are You, the Eternal One our God, Ruler of the Cosmos, who has kept us alive, sustained us, and enabled us to reach this moment
Excellent answer Pastor John! So many fail to understand that Christ paid for ALL sin, past, present, and future! And the key is this, those who are the ELECT and predestined are the ones who are truly of Him! There are so many who were led into a false conversion by emotional means especially in many charismatic circles. Key scriptures: Rom. 10:9,10,13, Eph. 1:1-14, 1 John 5:13 Many are not using proper exegesis for there must be a delineation of justification and sanctification. IF God has "sealed" (Eph. 1:11-14) how can a fallible human break God's seal? Not.
Well you can lose it if you turn from God because his coming for a church without spot and blemish.
Robert Tarasiak so a Christian who sins doesn’t need to do anything about it ? No confession. No penance No repentance
Christian Aaron Like a child who sins against his dad, eventually he will run to his dad crying and asking for his forgiveness. He knows the dad still loves him as much as ever and will readily accept his repentance. Repentance is agreeing with God that what you did was wrong, and you wish to turn away from your sins. He is the perfect Father, never will He cast you out. He will absolutely discipline you, but your His child evermore.
Andrew Jackson Sorry you’re wrong. Sounds good. But your words are from Satan. What you’re saying is even if the prodigal son hadn’t repented he would still have gone to heaven
I disagree. It’s a doctrine invented by the losers of the reformation.
Ezekiel 33 12-20
@@christopherton LoL you trust in earning your way into heaven.
If you could lose your salvation, you would.- John MacArthur
Scott Farley This is John Piper not John Mcarthur
I think that was your joke
Those who seek to save their life will lose it but he who loses his life for my sake and the gospels, the same shall save it. Except you repent you all likewise will perish.
Jesus Christ
Amen pastor! All praise all glory to our Heavenly Father and our Lord Christ Jesus.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
You need to read Jesus words about the Vine and the branches!
the Gospel killed me in the flesh, and now i enjoy living in the spiritual Kingdom of God, just waiting for the return of my God and Saviour.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.........
John 5:24 convinced me ultimately:
“Truly I tell you, anyone who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not come under judgment but has passed from death to life.”
Eternal life begins at conversion, NOT death, and, by definition, it therefore cannot be lost!
Flat out falsehood. The prodigal son did not physically die. Furthermore, Jesus was crystal clear that blasphemy of the Holy Ghost can never be forgiven. ONLY a mature Christian can even commit that sin.
Once saved always saved is a lie.
If you could lose your salvation you would. Stop holding on to anything we can to add to what the Lord Jesus did on that cross. Believe and he saved. Good works are great, preaching, soul winning, reading the word, praying are all fruits of our salvation but faith alone in what Jesus did on that cross is the root of our salvation. The gospel is that simple and thank God He made it that simple.
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.”
John 10:27-28
Brothers and sisters God bless every one of you. I'll dip my oar in to this conversation and I pray those reading will listen.
I DO BELIEVE that if you are TRULY born again, you will not lose salvation. I am speak from experience.
I was working hard to get to know the Lord and I was beginning to walk in righteousness. But, when I was four months into my walk, I was at university. I still hadn't even read a quarter of the Bible and was not rooted in his word nor understood how he operated. I was going through a stormy time with God where "the spiritual high" had worn off and I didn't have a lot of spiritual support and my roommates were pagans (Nothing against them at all, they are wonderful people). But I had been praying on a husband and Satan sent me the counterfeit. And me, wanting a relationship and being so pre mature in my walk, fell for the counterfeit. I didn't intentionally up and leave God. My lover seemed pretty harmless at first. Drinking from time to time, etc. The Holy Spirit definitely warned me. I didn't understand. Beginning to fall and thinking that he was "close enough" to a man of God. We get into a relationship and things get worse. The holy spirit tells me to stop and then I begin to smoke again and then the swearing came back. I would cry upset with what I was doing and then go back to being with him. It was the biggest tug a war I have ever been through. He became abusive to me yelling at me until I cried, apathetic to me, a huge narcissist. I wasn't feeling conviction anymore and I had become stuck in a soul tie. By the time I knew I needed to go back to God I felt like I had dug myself in a huge pit. I knew that I messed up, bad. I had to go back my spirit BURNED for him. I was parched like a desert that only he could fill. I hadn't departed from the faith at all I believed in the Lord I was ashamed I was going behind his back but I felt so overrun I didn't know what to do and the soul tie was destroying me. I wanted to give up but I'm telling you, the spirit in me PERSEVERED FOR ME. I saw the spirit telling me to come back over and over and I knew I was going too even though I was surrounded in darkness I knew I was going to ultimately go back. I took baby steps to recover with how bad I had fallen. I started to talk to him and ask how should I get out of this? (And me being blind) asked him should I break up with him? Once I spoke to him he's spirit took hold and is what controlled me from smoking, I can't make this up. He made it as clear as day the holy spirit revealed to me in an instant as I looked at him the absolute absence of God in him and I broke up with him it was either that day or the next.
After seeing how I was abused and thinking I knew better, do you think a loving father would abandon his child? Not at all.
He never left me.
Not once.
In my darkness I saw how the Lord worked.
I feared him and I was running away when I had snowballed into my pit. In my case, I didn't even know scripture. So all of these arguments and things for different scriptures were ones I had never known because I hadn't even read them.
Only the holy spirit can draw you to repentance.
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day"
If you desire God, it means God wants you.
Everyone whom my Father gives me will come to me. I will never turn away anyone who comes to me,
John 6:37
A bruised reed He will not break and a smoldering wick He will not extinguish; He will faithfully bring forth justice
Isaiah 42:3
Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God.
Jeremiah 3:22
But even if we speak like this, dear friends, we feel sure about you. We know that you have the better blessings that belong to your salvation. God is not unfair. He will not forget the work you did or the love you showed for him in the help you gave and are still giving to other Christians.
Hebrews 6:9-10
So like Piper said everyone is caught up in Hebrews 6 but even the author of Hebrews was like yeah i was harsh. They are still sure the Lord will execute justice and bring you to the finish line no matter what.
The author is saying that it is impossible to BRING THEM BACK TO REPENTANCE because THEY CANNOT turn away from their sins. But wait, no matter how far you've fallen, if you feel the NEED to go back repentance and YOU ARE INDEED turning away from your sins how is this possible? Because his GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR YOU and he desires you more than you will ever know.
If this great firm falling away does happen your heart would have to become as hard as the Pharisees again, be sound and resolute in your stance, and hate God which are all evidences that you never knew God nor were you truly born again and you become one of the seeds of the parable of the seeds in Luke.
I'm not saying grace is a license to sin. But again we are saved by grace not works. When he says to "work out" your salvation Piper brought up his point of oh now I'm saved im vaccinated I'm good. No. If one is truly born again they wouldn't have this mentality anyways unless they were given false doctrine and don't know better because of how they are a babe in Christ. I see this as he wants to develop a relationship with you so you understand him and this takes time and to step into the PURPOSE HE HAS PREDESTINED FOR YOU. You're his patient and he wants us to be feel secure and confident in him. And people forget the verse AFTER "working out your salvation." It's because God is always at work in you to make you willing and able to obey his own purpose.
Philippians 2:13
SO ITS GOD ALREADY WORKING IN YOU. IT IS HIS BLOOD BOUGHT POWER THAT HE MOTIVATES YOU TO WORK IT OUT THE PURPOSE AND PLAN HE HAS FOR YOU THAT IS A PROMISE. IF HE WAS NOT ALREADY IN YOU THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. What about people who repent on their death bed and die and didn't "work out" their salvation? Come on now.
I'm very glad things turned out well for you ma'am and we need to thank God for His mercy and goodness towards us. Most people here are missing the points I've been trying to make. I've said (written in this case) all that's required. My main point to repeat myself is people who are saved need to keep God's commandments, period. Those who think they can willfully sin and God will look the other way ... well ... for the final time: "But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die."
After studying the Bible for 40+ years, I've found no scriptures saying or even suggesting that a person who repented (got saved) and fell back into sin was never saved to begin with. If that person repents (again) and turns from his/her sin they will be saved though it does get harder to be restored.
Lisa, most folks here are also missing the severity of sin in God's eyes. It saddens me to witness good Christian people attempt to reduce the majesty and holiness of God. Sin separated us from God ... and sin is the one thing that can do it after salvation. Repent and believe the Gospel.
Yes you are correct, and the Lord supports your words Himself (Jeremiah 32:38-42)
Very well said!
Very well said. Thank you for your kindness in sharing your testimony.
Our Lord does not leave us behind.
I had a similar experience with unbelief by going into some false teachings
because of my own immaturity and weakness.
Even in my unbelief, the Lord was WITH ME telling me that He would restore me.
The Lord restored me back into faith.
I look back and I am just awe-struck at His love and faithfulness.
Even when we stumble, He is faithful in keeping us in His salvation.
He who began the good work WILL complete it.
Praise the LORD.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.....
Did anyone else find his explanation extremely confusing? I feel like he twisted himself in a logical pretzel. After 8 minutes, he ends by saying, “perseverance in faith is the evidence that we’ve been made part of Christ and when that perseverance doesn’t hold, then we were never in [Christ].”
How is that assurance of anything? How can you know you are saved if your perseverance in faith has to “hold” and you cannot know whether your perseverance has held to the end until you get to the end?
Frankly, it makes more sense that you can be saved and then choose for yourself to walk away. Like in any family, I cannot change who my father is, but if I want to leave his house, change my name, and disown him, I have the free will to do so. It’s not a reflection on my father, it’s a reflection on me.
If you leave the family, is your father still not your father, or are you now fatherless? We are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption according Ephesians 1:13,4:30
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you...........
The assurance comes from the Holy Spirit when we are walking right. If we don't have assurance from God, something is wrong. We then need to seek God and heed what He tells us. It helps to have a good pastor and church, too.
If we reject him still he remains faithful
False gospel is confusing, the true gospel is believe on the Lord Jesus and HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE, it’s everlasting and there’s nothing you can do to lose it, because going to heaven does not depend on you but on Jesus. #OnceSavedAlwaysSaved
The Word of God commands our trust in Him AND our continual surrender. I still struggle some days as i am a recovering alcoholic. I have failed many times, but the overwhelming love of my Father in heaven, the absolute compassion of my Savior and the indwelling life of the Holy Spirit brings newness and joy that can't be known in any other relationship. I can say "all things are possible for those who believe and are called according to His purpose"
Amen
Jesus called me in a dream. He told me he wanted to take me with him to his fathers house. I read scripture and heard preacher and i know i am saved. I struggle still with sin, porn, Homosexual desires, and gambling. No matter how hard i try or pray these things will simply not go away or "repent", in fact when i try to resist these things IT GETS WORSE. I had given up trying to stop sinning because i cannot do it of myself, I have just surrendered and Trust Jesus with my salvation. i know his sacrifice has saved me.He will make me better, he is probably just pruning me.
+NagualElias it's called the process of sanctification and purification, Romans 8:28 - 30, be blessed.
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The Rob TV Sounds like you have a stronghold in your life. I too struggled with porn and lust of the flesh. God gave me victory over this when I went through deliverance. You too can be delivered from this sin. Once set free, you need to learn how to maintain your freedom by staying away from anything that will cause you to sin.
Never give up hope, Jesus loves you(us) and whenever we sin we must ask the Lord to forgive us and to help us when we are weak. Forgive us ALL Lord Jesus.
13 Questions that those who teach a Christian can be Saved then Lost CANNOT answer:
1. How can a person, who has received Christ and all that accompanies that process, as a gift from God that He does not “repent” (change His mind) over, then be lost when the possession of the very gift we are speaking of means ETERNAL life?
2. How can a person whose salvation does not remotely depend on any human works or effort, but solely on the power and work of God in Christ, be lost by any sort of human works, effort, or action, by the body or by the mind?
3. How can a person that Christ died for paying the full penalty of the law, and satisfying the very demands of God’s justice, leave that covenant, therefore, requiring Christ to pay that penalty again?
4. How can a person who has been redeemed by an ETERNAL redemption by the powerful, precious, infinitely valuable blood of Christ, be placed back in a condition of condemnation?
5. How can a person who has been “born of incorruptible (undying) seed”* and is therefore given ETERNAL life as a gift that God does not “repent” (change His mind) of, die spiritually?
6. How can a person that God promises will not come under condemnation, then come under said condemnation?
7. How can a person who has BECOME a new creature in Christ then become an old creature again?
8. “If every believer was foreknown of God, and all who were foreknown were predestined to become conformed to the image of the Son of God, and all who were predestined have been called, and all who were called have been justified, and all who were justified have already been glorified in the sight of God, at what point is it possible for a single one to be lost?”**
10. If God has made provision for all who are saved through the advocacy of Christ, which is based only on HIS righteousness and HIS propitiation for all sin by way of the cross, to act as our “defense attorney” regarding all charges made against us by the enemy, how can one who is saved then be accused guilty and lost or condemned?
11. How can a person who has the Holy Spirit living, or abiding, in them forever; is sealed by the Spirit for security and as a witness to Christ’s ownership; and if this person has been given the Spirit as a GUARANTEE of something that can only be reached in eternity, how can this person NOT be secure?
12. How can a person who is the object of God’s love and therefore saved, not an object of His wrath and therefore condemned, who is promised God’s love will always be true; actually, it is the very reason of salvation, be lost?
13. How can a person who has been saved by the very power God declares He used to raise Christ from the dead and seat Him at the apex of power and glory possibly become lost and spend eternity in hell?
Amen to this. Have a Filipino translated video of this topic. Your discussion have gave further clarity. God bless you
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........
I was once born again, but now I'm completely spiritually dead. You can lose it. I literally have no hunger, thirst or anything for the things of God. He no longer speaks to me... I feel just the way i did before coming to Him
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Sending prayers brother/sister. Alot of the time we want to hear God in the way that we want to hear Him. This is a trick by the enemy to pull you away from Him.
He loves you. Come back to the Father. Your sins are not greater than the Almighty. Jesus died for your rebellion and eternal separation from God.
You my friend are believing a lie. You have allowed your mind to succumb to the great deceiver. The Father of lies. Draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh to you. It's his Word and his promise.
His grace is sufficient for me
He that endureth till the end will be saved. You have to endure. If you don't,you will not.
Endure what?
Endure How?
@@tiwanstrong1413 Go away Tiwan. You will not use the bible.
@@tiwanstrong1413 Start with Hebrew 3:14. The word "If" implies condition. For instance "If" you do something, "then" something will happen. In other words you have to continue in your relationship with God. He says to seek Him with all your heart and you will find him. Don't rely on yourself for salvation. Read John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him shall have everlasting life. You have to talk to Jesus. Trust Him. He will reveal Himself to you and He will teach you how to live for Him. Living for Him and following His commandments is the enduring part. Relationship with Him involves praying and reading His Word. He will be a friend who sticks closer than a brother. He will never leave you or abandon you. Call on Jesus. He loves you.
How do we endure to the end? I believe Philippians 1:6 answers that.
@@Over-for-now So if someone stopped having faith in Christ, they remain saved?
Thanks for good teaching!
One of the good examples is this; Puritans believed that really regenerated person have some kind of signs in their souls. Going toward the grace, they realized their spiritual state by this convictions. Then, while justification brings forth the sanctification, sanctification is the witness of justification.
Thanks!
@christocentric Thanks! Please look at Rom. 8:15-16 and 10:9-10. There you can see the conviction of saving faith which the Puritans advocated. They strongly emphasized the assurance of salvation.
Praise God the almighty 🙏.
He gave His Son and undeserving grace for us.
True, Undeserved favor from God towards us. Praise the LORD!
(Revelation 14:12) "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
1 John 3:21-24 amen
Judas healed the sick, drove out demons,and raised the dead according to the Gospels, yet Satan entered him. Judas had to have had the power of the Holy Spirit within him, but still faltered at the end. This motivates me to always be aware of my behavior and attitude towards God, to be as obedient as possible, to be as gracious to others as I can, to be quick to forgive and quick to ask forgiveness when I am wrong. Believers need to stop worrying about can I lose my salvation and concentrate on making a life change by Jesus as attractive as possible.
You can't find anywhere in the gospels that explicitly say Judas performed any miracle by the power of the Holy Spirit. In order for Judas to have had the Holy Spirit at ANY POINT that would mean God would have had to have given Judas to Jesus, which He did not (John 17:12). God would have had to predestine him from the foundation of the world to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ (Romans 8:29). If Judas had been given the Holy Spirit, that would mean that He belonged to Jesus (Romans 8:9-11), and he did not, as the previous quote from John shows. If Judas had the Holy Spirit, that would mean he had been foreknown, predestined, called, justified, and glorified with Jesus (Romans 8:30) Even if Judas did perform miracles, that would be meaningless in determining whether or not he was saved. The name of Jesus is powerful enough that, whether it is spoken by reprobates or sons of the living God, demons, sickness, disease, and Hell itself must BOW to it. Many people who are reprobate and unsaved perform miracles; you see that in the Old Testament and the New. Jesus said as much (Matthew 7:21-23).
Ethan Channing Ethan, your reasoning fails in two areas. First, the idea that unbelievers can command demons just using Jesus name.
Acts 19:13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists undertook to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, "I adjure you by the Jesus whom Paul proclaims." 14 Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this.
15 But the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you?" 16 And the man in whom was the evil spirit leaped on them, mastered all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
So we see that one must be inhabited by the Holy Spirit to use the name of Jesus
Second, Judas did heal the sick, drive out demons, and raise the dead. In Matthew 10:5 Jesus gives this authority to the 12 and sends them to Jewish villages to preach. Then later sends out 72 with the same abilities (it's in Luke, see if you can find it). As for when Jesus says many who did miracles in His name were never known to Him, maybe they were believers who backslid. Either way we must fight the good fight, run the good race to receive the prize. I, for one, don't want to risk my salvation on the "once saved always saved" doctrine. Peter told us to be holy even as God is holy, and as a follower of Christ I will obey.
MrStevekehl You're kind of ignoring John 17:12. To quote the verse directly, "those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." Again, if Judas had the Spirit of God, that would mean he was regenerated, he knew Jesus was the Messiah, God in the flesh, he placed faith in Him for the salvation of his soul. That would mean God had predestined him from the foundation of the world to be conformed to the image of His Son, that Judas was foreknown, predestined, called, justified and glorified. Jesus clearly stated in His prayer to God the Father that Judas was the son of perdition. He was not saved. We then have two explanations. Either Judas didn't perform miracles, or, as Jesus Himself said, there are those who are able to perform miracles in His name that are not saved. And your interpretation that they were Christians who backslid is proven false by Jesus' response to their question. He told them He NEVER knew them. He didn't say, "I knew you, but you didn't do the proper works to keep your salvation," He said, "I never knew you, depart from me, thou workers of iniquity." Jesus also said that false prophets will be able to perform great signs. The sorcerers in Pharoah's court did miracles by the dark arts. This is not a new theme in Scripture.
As regarding Acts 19:13, I will concede that you have made a good point. I would however raise the question, "Is there a difference between a person who outright rejects Christ so that they use distancing language like 'the Jesus whom Paul preaches' to refer to Christ and one who is commanding demons on the basis of a belief in the authority inherent in the name of Jesus--which is higher than any name, blessed forever--though not necessarily placing their faith in Him as the perfect sacrifice for their sins as the sinless Son of God?"
MrStevekehl Secondly, in spite of our disagreement on this issue, I will state that I believe this is an "in-house debate." I do not question your salvation. I am jealous for the glory of God and His call to holiness in our lives, but I find just as Paul did in Romans 7 that when I put myself under the Law and say "I must do this or this, or I must ask forgiveness for each individual sin," or whatever else have you, "in order to keep my salvation," I lived like a sinner. When I had the revelation of God's everlasting love for me and His free gift of grace, my life changed. However, I do not believe anyone who lives in a state of sin without the conviction of the Holy Spirit is saved (Hebrews 12:7, 8: " If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons."), nor do I believe that anyone who has defected from the faith was ever saved to begin with (1 John 2:19).
Ethan Channing Let me be clear, I don't doubt your salvation either. This topic is not to be taken lightly or debated by young Christians. It is a "meat" subject. The once saved always saved doctrine has lead many astray, thinking they can be saved while acting wordly; sinning boldly so grace may abound. In Matthew 10:22, 24:13 and Mark 13:13 Jesus talks about hardship coming with our faith,but the one who endures to the end shall be saved. Also the Parable of the Sower,Jesus says the rocky soil are those that receive the Word with joy, but have no root. Likewise, the rocky soil represents those where the Word takes root and begins to grow, but wordly concerns choke out their faith. If those who fall away were never really saved, how can any of us have any confidence in our salvation? I say I am saved, but is there an event in my future that will crush my faith and show that it was a delusion? You are right to point out John's Gospel where Jesus says he will not lose any the Father has given Him. Jesus doesn't lose us, we turn our back on Him. We betray Him with the choices we make. While I don't believe every sin separates us from God anew, nor do we need to make lists of sins or go to confession to be forgiven of individual sins. It is important to see areas of weakness in our lives and ask forgiveness of sins in those areas. Through prayer and the power of the Holy Spirit we can achieve victory over our weakness and grow in Christ. Then we will see the harvest 30, or 50, or 100 times over. God Bless
"There's a promise attached to a call!"
God's sovereign call created the Life! And He who calls you is FAITHFUL! HE WILL SUSTAIN US UNTIL THE END!🙌🙌🙌 Amen! Thank you Lord.
Yes, he who calls us is faithful (1 Thessalonians 5:24); as Christ will confirm us until the end (1 Corinthians 1:8), but *ONLY* *”IF* we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end”(Hebrews 3:6); and *”IF* (we) continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel”(Colossians 1:23). These are just two of the many conditions that is set for us between this present time and the day of our redemption-the resurrection.
AMEN 🙌🏻
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you..........
Thanks for that, I was just listening to a video which really scared me.
Best answer I’ve ever heard on this subject Amen praise the Lord!!!
Biblically the "Once saved always saved" doctrine does not line up.
We are actually told to fear for a reason. Not a panic fear and constant anxiety that is counterproductive to doing God's work but rather an important fear that is wise to keeping proper perspective. *Caps added below for highlighting purposes.
1Pe 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in FEAR
Does one think that this is fear of losing heavenly rewards? No. Other scripture confirms further why we as born again believers should fear. The context of Romans 11:20-22 is that of warning believers not to boast against the Hebrew people ( "natural branches"), when talking about how Gentiles have been grafted in the olive tree. The grafting in and out of the tree is talking about salvation into the body of Christ The olive tree represents biblical Israel the Church and the root of the olive tree is the Messiah Christ. Apostle Paul encouraged the believers to FEAR and CONTINUE IN GOODNESS otherwise warning them of being cut off.
Rom 11:20 “Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but FEAR:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IF THOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS: OTHERWISE THOU ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF.
Rom 11:23 And they also, IF they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.”
Importantly the word "if" is used demonstrating one's freewill of walking with God or not. True that no man can pluck us from God's hands ( John 10:28) however we can choose to jump out of His palm. We see the telling "if" in many places in scripture:
1Corinthians 15:1 “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, IF ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.”
It says you are saved IF you (ye) keep in memory what is preached. “Unless you have believed in vain” is not talking about some “false faith” as Calvinism or other doctrines teach. Rather, the concept illustrated is that which we saw above in Romans 11:22-23 and we see in Galatians 6:7-9, 2 Peter 1:9-10, and Colossians 1:22-23 with the “if” being key. We must remember to always compare scripture with scripture. Let us look at these mentioned verses:
Galatians 6:7-9 “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. “For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, IF we faint not.”
Only those who faint not will reap everlasting life. The one that endures till the end is saved ( Mat 24:13, Mat 10:22, Mark 13:13).
2 Peter 1:9-10 “But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, GIVE DILIGENCE TO MAKE YOUR CALLING AND ELECTION SURE: for IF ye do these things, ye shall never fall:”
We see the possibility that one that has been purged of old sin, which can only be a saved person ( the Greek G2512 denotes “purged” as washed, purified, cleansed), can forget and fall. When we look at the Greek for “fall” we see:
G4417 πταίω ptaiō ptah'-yo A form of G4098; to trip, that is, (figuratively) to err, sin, fail (OF SALVATION): - fall, offend, stumble.
We are prompted to do our part to make our election sure. In addition once again in the verses above we see that important “if.” “If” you do these things” (speaking of kindness, patience, godliness in context) “then you will not fall.”
Colossians 1:22-23 “In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: IF YE CONTINUE in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;”
If we have no responsibility at all whatsoever after being saved as it pertains to our eternity, these verses (as well as countless others) become unnecessary and actually contradictory. Man has contradicted the bible through doctrines and theologies which are not in the bible. The bible is not contradictory.“Once Saved Always Saved” theory contradicts many scriptures including:
2 Peter 2:20 “For if after they have ESCAPED the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have KNOWN THE WAY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that WAS WASHED to her wallowing in the mire.”
This is talking about people that had been saved and through their actions fell away from God. The argument that these people were not saved to begin with is not substantial. “Escaped” shows that they are already forgiven of sin. In addition, the proverb is used as an example to capture the idea with the word “washed” as to express one that has been cleansed from the old sin. Also if this was referring to unsaved people to begin with, one could not have "known the way of righteousness". However here it says, “for it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness,” implying that the way of righteousness was known.
The Lord Jesus ( Yeshua) himself gives a parable that is quite revealing.
Luk 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
Luke 12: 37 says that those servants who are watching for His coming are blessed. The parable is talking about those that are servants of God in God's Kingdom. In order to serve in God's Kingdom one would have to be a believer and a follower of Christ, otherwise one would not be a servant. So this parable is clearly talking about those in the body of Christ. The parable goes on in Luke 12:42-44 still speaking about servants of God, those who have been born again:
Luk 12:42-44 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
Then in the very following verses Jesus describes an alternate scenario for these same servants of God who have been born again. If saved servants decide with their own freewill to fall away and join the world and not be watching for the Lord's coming the portion for them is with the unbelievers:
Luk 12:45-46 BUT AND IF THAT SERVANT say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS.
The fact that the scripture details that this servant would be appointed his portion with the unbelievers demonstrates that he was not a unbeliever to begin with, again reiterating the fact that this is referring to a previously saved person. The consequence is a result of what the servant reaped through willful disobedience by knowing the Master's will and still rejecting to do it.
We can't earn our salvation. We know this:
Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
There is no amount of good works, knowledge, mental meditations or physical postures ( as in yoga, my former occult background :)), water baptisms( not that baptism isn't important but rather the simple act of it in itself without true repentance has no power), rituals, chantings, counting of beads, circumcisions..etc none of these things have any power to save. We are saved by grace through faith! All we have to do is accept the gift of salvation from the work already done on the cross.
We have the choice to follow God and continue in his truth. We have a responsibility.
Let us look at the words of Yeshua ( Jesus):
Rev 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Two things to note here. Overcoming involves continuing effort on the part of the overcomer. We have a responsibility to make sure our garments are not defiled ( Rev 3:4). The statement "which have not defiled their garments" demonstrates the responsibility of the overcomers.The ones who make sure that their garments are not defiled are the very overcomers mentioned in the following verse. It is not a passive process of someone who is "eternally secure" after being saved. Also, it seems unlikely that if "once saved always saved" were true that there would be the possibility of one's name being blotted out of the book of life. If someone was "eternally secure" with his/her name being written in the book of life then it could not be blotted out, as that would not be a possibility. The idea of blotting out names is also seen in Deuteronomy 9:14 and Rev 22:19.
The fact is we can not save ourselves, it is only through faith that one can be saved, true. However, after we have faith in the work done on the cross and choose to follow Christ we become co-laborers With Him:
1 Corinthians 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.”
2 Corinthians 6:1 “We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.”
It is important that believers work and strive in this labor because faith without works is dead:
Jas 2:17 Even so FAITH, IF IT HATH NOT WORKS, IS DEAD, BEING ALONE.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD?
May we as born again believers continue on in goodness working for the glory of God, never turning back to our foolish worldly ways again!
Psalm 85:8 “I will hear what God the LORD will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and TO HIS SAINTS: but LET THEM NOT TURN AGAIN TO FOLLY.”
this is excellent! the best description I've read. Unfortunately I got tangled up in Folly for several years and now feel that I will never be close to what I had before based on verse in I Peter about putting our Lord to shame for it wud have been better to never have been saved. This is disheartening.
Feel free to message me and Lord willing we can correspond if you like :). Facebook works or me if you have it or skype if you have it and are interested. Much love!
Great teaching. Thanks for sharing. I like John Piper but your teaching was all biblical. So many verses. Thx.
You can't lose your salvation
Sin is greater then Jesus crucifixion on the cross????
MANY are called but few are chosen. It's one thing to allow the Lord to finish the work in you He started but if your free will chooses to step outside of His grace and never repent for the sin we all are subject to on this earth, then you chose not to allow the Lord to complete that good work. Work out your salvation, brothers and sisters, with fear and trembling.
Thsnkyou dear pastor!!
God help you if you look to a teacher and do not know the New Testament. There are about 80 warnings about falling away, falling from grace, etc. Trust no man with your soul. Seek them out yourself.
Matthew 18: 32 “Then summoning him, his lord said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33‘ Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34 “And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35 “My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.”
John 5 14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you.” What is worse than being severely crippled for decades? Hell. Almost everything we know about hell, came from Jesus. Most were warnings to His disciples!
James 5:19-20 (ESV) - My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
2 Peter 2:20-21 (NIV) - If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would
have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their
backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its
vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."
2. Hebrews 6:4-6 (ESV) - For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted
the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the
powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are
crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
2 Timothy 2:11-13 (NIV) -Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 if we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us; 13 if we are faithless, he will remain faithful, for he cannot disown himself. (this does not annul verse 12. Jesus remains faithful)
John 15: 4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. 5 “I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
Warren McGrew Hi Warren. The Bible says that even our faith to believe God is a gift. We are so depraved that we are not even capable of enough faith within ourselves to believe. Paul says that if we did have enough faith ourselves than we would boast. So, our saving faith is God's faith. He gets all glory. The most difficult thing for us to accept is The Gospel of Jesus Christ. We think God is like us. He is not. He forgives and that is it. It IS finished!
Why do you give only your opinions, your spin on the scriptures? Who should trust you or me? You have been mis-taught as I was. We both have not understand the scriptures. You falsely assume in your words that "we are so depraved that we are not even capable of enough faith within ourselves to believe".
You have been captured by Augustine and the later Calvinists.This was a disaster for the church. You will never understand if you believe in original sin. You must understand the beginning of God's first calling, when He dealt with Cain.
Genesis 4:3 So it came about in the course of time that Cain brought an offering to the LORD of the fruit of the ground. 4 Abel, on his part also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and for his offering; 5 but for Cain and for his offering He had no regard. So Cain became very angry and his countenance fell.
6 THEN THE LORD SAID TO CAIN, "WHY ARE YOU ANGRY? AND WHY HAS YOUR COUNTENANCE FALLEN? 7 “IF YOU DO WELL", WILL NOT YOUR COUNTENANCE BE LIFTED UP?
AND "IF YOU DO NOT DO WELL", sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, "BUT YOU MUST MASTER IT.” 8 Cain told Abel his brother. And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him.
Jesus told Cain "“IF YOU DO WELL", WILL NOT YOUR COUNTENANCE BE LIFTED UP?" AND TOLD HIM HE HAD TO MASTER SIN!!!
IT WAS UP TO CAIN WHAT HE CHOSE TO DO!!!!! And you say""we are so depraved that we are not even capable of enough faith within ourselves to believe". Not so.
+Warren McGrew Cain and Abel being children of Adam and Eve, still had communion with God. With Cain we witness deliberate disobedience against God, and God put a mark on him for judgement. All of this happened before the law was given to Moses and before the death of Christ in time. Remember, man became worse and worse until God destroyed the entire world by the flood, excepting His choice of Noah and His family, whom God said Noah was found righteous in his time.
Faith is a gift of God. Until we are made alive in the Spirit of God we are DEAD in sin. See Eph 2:1 and following verses.
Wow! You are brilliant!. Let me guess. You heard it from an angel of light. And now you are able to change the scriptures. Let me explain to you something. Your words are less than worthless. They are evil.
Blood of The King
1Cor 7:1 ¶ Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
Why not talk to your wife. She has a duty to help you with your lusts. Whether or not she has a sex drive or not, she should be willing to (as a Christian) satisfy your needs as you satisfy hers. That's part of a marriage and part of being a Christian. We think of others above ourselves. We don't want our brothers and sisters to struggle with such things and help where we can. This should be especially true in a marriage.
Talk to her with love about this. Do a bible study on the subject with her.
I wish you the best.
God bless
Eternal life is in Jesus, from Genesis to Revelation. There are ten times more verses and warnings of falling away than once saved always saved. I wish these guys would acknowledge all of scripture.
Hebrews 6:4-6 NKJV
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, [5] and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, [6] if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Hebrews 10:26-27 NKJV
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, [27] but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
wonderful explanation and clear presentation of once in Christ always in Christ
How can you tell if you're in christ anyway? I thought he hadn't even returned yet
John 10:28 King James Version (KJV)
28" And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
Amen. Well Piper sure won't comment here. Ever.
He was gracious enough to respond 4 times to a question I had last week 🙏
John 14:15 If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
Luke 13:3 REPENT or PERISH!
John 14:15 If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
John 14:15 If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
@@godsdone6135 True. Amen.
the Lord guides every honest repented heart into his truth. the topic of salvation is very clear in the Bible,it is people who love sin and this world more than God that are confused or decieved.
Amen! Amen! those are the ones deceived nd confuse alllll the time...no matter how u explain they will never understand but its truth...Gods truth. And it can only be known by His Spirit living in you!!!
Praise be to God who assures us of our salvation!
Pastor John you are THE MAN!
Piper answered this wonderfully. Those who believe a born again, regenerate Christian can lose his salvation have no idea what it actually means to be saved & in Christ. Those that fall away & never come to repentance were never his to begin with (1john2:19).
Keith Thompson Absolutely true Brother!
As a Saved Sinner we have 2 natures. By way of explanation these two natures are like a white dog and a black dog. Whatever dog we feed has the mastery so if a Christian walks in the flesh it overcomes or quenches the spirit but if we walk in the spirit it will overcomes the Flesh! These two natures within a Christian are at war with each other, like Moses and Amalek ,
until we are in God's presence clothed in our perfect glorified bodies!
+Keith Thompson Funny, I read 1 John 2:18 and he was clearly not speaking about "true and false christians"...
But I guess anyone can cherrypick a specific verse to support a view, even if the verse is speaking about something completely different...
+Paul Stevenson There is a war indeed, but the true believer is not subject to the dominion of the sinful flesh as per Rom. 6:12-19. The ominous warning in Rom. 8:13 is that " If ye live after the flesh, ye shall die : but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." The regenerated saint is so led by the Holy Spirit that he/she has the mastery over the fleshly inclinations -- not sinless perfection, but walking in the light as per 1 John 1:6,7 . Christians can choose to feed the black dog but certainly not on a continuum; for that would belie genuine repentance.
+R. Crompton Yes God may take the life of a Christian if they continue in Sin! This death has nothing to do with the 2nd death!!
+Paul Stevenson A regenerated soul simply cannot continue in sin. Please read 1 John 3:6-10. Those who continue in a life of sin merely demonstrate they are not born again, have not the Holy Spirit, and are not disciplined by the Father to "...yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness..." as per Heb. 12:7-11. Those who are governed by their flesh are not saved. There is no salvation for those who live after the flesh cf. James 1:12-15. The mark of the true believer is refusing the invitation to sin as per James 1:12 -- that is the endurance demanded of God who has purposed to save His people FROM their sins -- not leave them in their sins (see Matt. 1:21). The one persisting in sin has not repented and as the Lord stated, they who do not repent shall perish (Luke 13:3,5).
The real question is whether a born again person will choose to return to a life of sin. Is this outside of the nature of a born again person? I believe creeping compromise is the easiest way for it to happen.
Yes!
+Tim Lewis What do you mean by "return to a life of sin", because every single Christian has and will sin after being justified. Just read Romans 7, you could hear and almost feel Paul's despair that he continues to wage war against the flesh and follow its laws (by sinning) but that the law of his mind (no doubt in connection with true repentance and related to the truth of Romans 10:10-14) is there as well and because of that we are justified. Sanctification is another part of the totality of salvation, but the two are not the same and I think people confuse the two.
They do confuse sanctification nd salvation because a natural man cannot understand spiritual things! Its just not their reality!
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Yes!!!! With Jesus all things are possible
When I was first saved 1984 and before I had learned to look to Christ and not myself I was so completely sickened by how far short my life is (and still is) from the perfect life of Christ that I wanted to give it all up and quit everything Christian but I couldn't do it then and most certainly couldn't do it now because no matter how hard I tried always found myself coming back
Theres no explanation much clearer than that. And the verses were all foundational. May God speak this truth through my mouth as I teaches Pastor in Dumaguete Philippines. Its really a Good News for me might as well to you.
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same, one time something of mine has passed away and i was really mad at God, and i never thought about it till like a year ago, and started to fear that maybe i lost it, i never rebuked the Lord, was just extremely mad. anyways, i always think about it. and yeah, thats all. I'm glad im saved through Jesus Christ.
@@pastorjohn2780 fraud. God will judge you harshly
Pray for me, for God to grant me repentance and grant me grace, I want to be a child of God, I no longer want to be a slave to sin
Make sure you approach God the way He expects you to with the right mindset. Prayers work together with what you need to have a resolve to do yourself.
You must submit to God. That is essential:
James 4:7-8
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
That's what your attitude needs to be when you are going through the process of *repentance* and committing to be obedient to God for the rest of your life (that's the kind of "change of mind" God wants to see). You must sincerely regret having sinned against God, and come to the point of hearing and agreeing 100% with Jesus' message saying, "I do not condemn you, now go and don't sin anymore" (John 8:11). Your obedience as you choose to follow God's ways is key--that's how you show your faith to God (John 3:36, Luke 6:46, Hebrews 3:17-18). That opens the door to receiving his *forgiveness* for your past sins (2 Peter 1:9), *healing* (Luke 5:31-32), *freedom from sin/addictions* (John 8:34-36), and the gift of *a new life* that you will live for God and no longer for sin and the passing things of the world (Romans 6:4, 2 Corinthians 5:17, Galatians 6:15). That is the salvation you must make sure you have experienced: freedom from sin (John 8:36, Romans 8:1-2) versus bondage to sin (John 8:34, Romans 7:23).
Approaching God in genuine repentance will lead to you receiving the Holy Spirit to lead you to "walk by the Spirit" (Acts 2:38, Galatians 5:16)--with a pure heart and self-control, which is a fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23). Any habit that controls you reveals idolatry in your heart. You have to choose to be done with that and it will be part of your past. That's one thing that will come out of your commitment to be obedient to God for the rest of your life. Please see 1 Peter 4:1-3 and 1 Thessalonians 1:9.
James 1:21-22
21 Therefore, putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with humility the implanted word, which is able to save your souls [that's repentance]. 22 But be doers of the word [that's faith, which implies obedience], and not only hearers, deluding your own selves.
Hebrews 5:9
And having been made perfect, He [Jesus] became the author of 👉 *eternal salvation to all those who obey Him [...].*
Please stay in the word and obey it (James 1:21-22). The word of God is fuel for your faith. To live as a follower of Jesus you must go out of your way to put the word of God in your heart and keep it there, rejecting all distractions. It's a fight and that's how you need to stand to not fall down. The truth will set you free from all sin (John 8:31-32, 36).
Amen! Thank you so much for this... Glory be unto YHWH forever!
No we can not loose our salvation if we are truly born again. Many who struggle with assurance of salvation should listen to this. Clearly explained.
Truly born again means walking in the Spirit. We do that by obeying God.
Perfect, now that's the gospel! All biblical truth straight from scripture. Thanks John.
Did you Read 1 John 3 ? 1 John 1:6: If we say we have fellowship with Him but walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
Me Gook we must practice righteousness brother! God bless, Praise the Lord! I have been struggling with sin and God has given me warnings and signs I can still get back up before he leaves me🙏🏻
@@AntonioSaved How about you heretics read John 6:37-39 where he explicitly tells us that He's never going to leave or forsake a believer and none that come to Him shall be lost?
@@sukka4pain Well put!
@@AntonioSavedGod NEVER leaves you! Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
@Déjà Siku
If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet WALK IN THE DARKNESS, we lie and do not practice the truth;
(1 John 1:6)
You have mistakenly assumed that WALKING in DARKNESS means to just commit A sin. That is not what the term WALK meant to the ancient Hebrews. Here is the definition of the METAPHORICAL use of the word WALK as recorded in Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology -
Walk
...this same verb is more often used throughout the Old Testament and the epistles of the New Testament in a metaphorical way. In this sense it means to follow a certain COURSE OF LIFE or to conduct oneself in a certain way. Many times the verb translated "walk" is present tense in the Greek of the New Testament, which means that the writer is referring to a CONTINUED MODE of CONDUCT or BEHAVIOR.
www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/walk/
So you see "walking in darkness" is far more serious than committing a sin and taking a momentary step in the darkness. It means practicing sin as a way of life which is something no Christian should ever do.
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You also use the word DELIBERATE [sin] in an apparent attempt to normalize the kind of sin described Hebrews 10:26
If we deliberately go on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no further sacrifice for sins remains,
I would say this is talking about something much more serious that committing a sin if for this individual there REMAINS NO MORE SACRIFICE. If there is no more sacrifice for us there is no more forgiveness and cleansing either.
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The word "DELIBERATELY" does not mean the person's sin is a choice of the will for EVERY sin is a choice of the will. The word means:
to sin WILLFULLY as opposed to sinning inconsiderately, and from ignorance or from weakness. This person does not merely fail in a time of temptation he CHOOSES to sin knowing full well how bad it is
biblehub.com/greek/1596.htm
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The fact that the word SIN is in the PRESENT TENSE indicates sin that is continual and unremitting which reinforces that the author of Hebrews is referring to a lifestyle of sin. The language of the verse shows that your characterization of the verse as meaning merely committing a sin is inaccurate
You will be saved if you endure to the end. More than 80 verses warning us.
No. You are saved and sealed thats why u endure.
Persavere until the end. Osas is a lie from Satan.
@Salt Maker I'm sorry you feel that way...the intimicy with Jesus is amazing. Jesus is looking for intimacy and holiness. God bless you.
@Salt Maker listen to precious testimonies. Have you experienced intimicy with Jesus. If you continue in sin you will end up in hell.
@Salt Maker I dogded the question
Have you been demon possessed, have experienced hell. Have you experienced God's incredible love flooding your being for years, his incredible peace and power. Romans 5.5 Romans 1.16 John. 14.27. If you have experienced that and way more we could talk.
1 john 5:4 The one born of God overcomes the world -- revelations - the one who overcomes will not have their names removed from the book of life
¡ WRONG !
The one who conquers and who "keeps my works until the end", to him I will give authority over the nations
he who overcomes the world is he who keeps the works of Jesus Christ until the end
@@joseyanes8376 Tell me, who is he that conquers? who is it that keeps the works? who is he who overcomes the world?
1 John 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
If while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
@@underconstruction1093
And he that overcometh, "AND HE THAT KEEPETH MY WORKS UNTO THE END", to him will I give authority over the nations:
Revelation 2:26 ASV
¿ can a born again Christian lose salvation ?
¿ what did Paul said ?
Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I ( Paul ) do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I MYSELF Will NOT BE DISQUALIFIED FOR THE PRIZE.
1 Corinthians 9:24-27 NIV
even more he said :
NOT THAT I HAVE ALREADY OBTAINED ALL THIS, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers and sisters, I DO NOT CONSIDER MYSELF YET TO HAVE TAKEN HOLD OF IT. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
Philippians 3:12-14 NIV
¿ Do you realize how you are the opposite of the apostle Paul ?
Paul was never sure of his salvation until his death was near :
For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.
2 Timothy 4:6-7 NIV
don't be fooled by false doctrines
@@joseyanes8376 this prize that Paul is talking about is not eternal life. You know that there is nothing you can do to win eternal life, besides trust in the already finished work of Jesus.
I encourage you to research those two verses and see what this "prize" is.
if you are so sure that the apostles were unsure of their salvation, then what does this mean - "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." - 1 John 5:13. ... that is present tense "have".
You can know you have eternal life by examining the fruit in your life. How do you know you really believe the gospel? its by the fruit in your life. If you are truly born again you should be continually repenting, and believing Jesus for the promise. He is the messiah, your deliverer, He alone will do what he promised, which is deliver you to heaven by trusting him alone, and not in your works. Your works are a confirmation of your salvation, but they in themselves wont save you. Christ will save you.
No one will be a hero in the end, Jesus is the only hero. No one will be able to say, "I have won the prize of heaven", because that would be boasting. Apostle Paul says "it is by grace you are saved, so that none may boast". Again I hope you research those verses.
Romans 5:9 - "Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God."
Romans 5:10 - "For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life."
so while we were enemies of God we were saved by his blood, much more now that we are justified, shall he save us from His wrath by his life! He will do it for his glory.
@@underconstruction1093
he is talking about the crown of life which symbolizes eternal life and salvation
Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee the crown of life.
Revelation 2:10 ASV
¿ there is nothing i can do to win eternal life ? Then why the bible says
¿ how shall we escape, if we neglect so great a salvation?
Hebrews 2:3
work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
Philippians 2:12 ASV
that means you have to take care of your salvation by living a holy life
I recommend you to read these passages from the Bible :
how the church of ephesus was founded : Acts 19 : 1-6
the church of ephesus receives a solemn warning :
Revelation 2:4-5
then to understand the biblical context of the previous passage you have to read : Luke 13:6-9
After you have read it all , I want you to tell me what you understood.
God already knew ahead of time who was going to choose Him...He is the alpha and omega...He called us knowing we would choose Him...so He set a plan in motion to save those He already knew we're going to choose Him in our hearts and confess with our lips...we are sinners who are...SAVED by His GRACE and we receive the GIFT of ETERNAL life...ETERNAL...... folks...
Calvinism is false doctrine
@@jeffreysoncrant6669 uh, this isn't Calvanism....
Well the Bible says that all are spiritually dead and nobody seeks after God. So tell me, how can some people choose God while others don't if all are spiritually dead and nobody seeks after God?
God first chose us more importantly. We simply responded to his calling and accepted his free gift of salvation.
It's always easy to look back and say "well they were never really saved" What about the ones that are truly saved/born again and decide, for whatever reason, to walk away?
adam henderson - they are lost
Mind blown. 😱
Sarcasm: where did you get that idea from?
Justin Lim look at king David. If you can’t call that willful sin I don’t know what is. But he returned with a contrite heart. And the Word says “a contrite heart you will not turn away”. Psalm 51
But with that being said, I do believe there is a point of no return when your heart is hardened to the point that you never will desire repentance. Reprobate mind if you will.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you......
Once you are conceived by your earthly father can you do anything to redo that? answer is no just as you repent and accept God as your heavenly father you can never erase that, no mater how far you walk.
Salvation is a GIFT. It cannot be returned. It isn't called eternal salvation for nothing!
Once we are born again we cannot be plucked you must be born again to inherit the kingdom.
Those who continue (in faith, repentance and obedience) till the end will be saved. (Mt. 24:13)
The problem is that the New Birth experience, like a natural birth, cannot be faked because it is the Holy Spirit who places believers into the Body of Christ following a genuine faith response to the Gospel. No one gets into the Church that was not genuinely saved. Still, there is nothing to stop them walking away due to persecution or pressure, although we are encouraged to stand firm during those times. The “they” in I John 2:19 clearly refers to people representing the Antichrist-those who “deny that Jesus is the Christ” and “deny the Father and the Son” (vs. 22-23) These were activists opposing the person, work and mission of Christ, not a believer who is defeated by lust or the pressures of life and decided to abandon his faith. Be careful of teachers who use Scripture out of context!
It is obvious from scripture that salvific grace cannot be taken away from you, and you cannot 'lose' it by mistake.
However, it is also obvious from scripture that one can have salvific grace one day, and not the next. So what gives?
The word "lose" suggests a passive thing that happens to a person. I don't like this.
We do not LOSE salvation, but we can FORFEIT salvation. God forbid that any Christian should, but some have. Instead of bending over backwards to suggest that these people were "never REALLY saved in the first place", it's much easier to show that God abides by our decision to follow Him or reject Him.
We don't earn salvation for ourselves, but God gives it to us when we humbly and self-effacingly ask it of Him. Likewise, He takes it away when we demand He leaves.
"God says, you will know the truth n the truth will set you free"
The truth is Christ. And Christ does set us free. The Holy Spirit is truth and we have to have the Holy Spirit also.
jeff ouellette
Indeed yes, it’s true; but only “...do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh”(Galatians5:13 NIV). And as we have been reminded in the epistles, as we are the temple of God “...and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are”(1 Corinthians 3:16-17).
judged by works, saved by faith. but there is rank is hell and Heaven.
God Bless, you, Pastor John...you will shine bright in the age to come.
John 8:11 King James Version
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and SIN NO MORE.
Best explanation I have heard yet!
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you....
Well, I remember the night that I was saved by my lord and Savior Jesus Christ
See you in Heaven ! Praise the Lord
Remember to run the race, and continue in the faith.
John 10:27-29
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”
"Ephesians 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,"
Like Charles Stanley once said, you didn't make the seal, you can't break the seal.
Our free will can break that seal.
Read Romans 1:21-32
Ofcourse he can!!! It's a daily fight !!!!!!!! God chastises those he loves, MAKE NO MISTAKE.
No they can’t
JustChan umm yes you can. That’s the bittersweet notion of FREE WILL
@@Latinblood so...u think u have to WORK to keep ur salvation?
Precious Akande having true faith is a work so yes. I wake up every morning and I can chose to sin or put my trust in God. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. I can lose salvation at any moment when I chose to turn away from God.
@@Latinblood First of all...Believing in Jesus isn't a work....U CAN'T LOSE WHAT U NEVER EARNED .. u CAN'T chose to sin if ur truly saved...when ur saved ur dead to urslef and alive in Christ
“Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT your own salvation with FEAR and TREMBLING”
-Philippians 2:12
And there are many more Scriptures...
Don’t believe this Once Saved, Always Saved lie straight from the pit of Hell...
Amen... This guy twist scriptures "" Big time "" Osas is false doctrine
This doctrine had its root back in the early days of creation. It was first preached to the woman, tricking her saying-*”YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE”.* (Gen. 3:4).
@omar albawab, wrong context. Read the previous chapters as signified by "Therefore". When you see the word "therefore", there was a discussion prior to it so that you would see the whole context. "Work out your salvation", means, Paul is admonishing to continue what you started in faith. Work out your own salvation (you are already saved). Paul did not say, "work out FOR your own salvation". There is only ONE SAVIOUR and that is Jesus Christ and what He had done on the cross is sufficient for all our sins, past, present and future. There is no such thing as "there is Jesus Christ who saved me one time and then THERE IS ME TO KEEP ME SAVED". How many saviour(s) you got?
What will you do if you committed sin again? Do good works? You cannot save yourself! Our righteousnesses are as filthy as rags (Isaiah 64:6). If you think you can keep yourself saved, you put a mockery of Christ's death on the cross as the ultimate sacrifice.
Now, of course, the argument doesn't stop. I know what's coming. Let me quote something from gotquestions.org:
"Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4)."
In summary: Salvation = by faith (once and forever). Good works/obedience = fruits of the Holy Spirit (evidence that you are already saved not the way to be saved).
God bless.
@@dudzdigital6140
I partly believe your prepositions in answer to the two objections you mentioned in your comment. First, that true believers in the Lord do not continue to live in a sinful lifestyle (1 John 3:9). However, I believe you misrepresented the message of 1 John 2:19. These false teachers claimed to be believers, but were not. John explains why: "if they had been of us, they would have continued with us." John uses the idea of "continuing" to refer to ongoing or repeated action. Those who did not last in the faith, particularly those who claimed to be leaders in the church, but turned against God, were literally against Christ or antichrists.
John adds, "But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." This abandonment of the faith offered proof or evidence that these false teachers were not true believers (1 John 2:22-23). In contrast with those who had been anointed (1 John 2:20), these false teachers did not have God's Spirit within them. They did not know the truth (1 John 2:21), denied Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22), and deceived others (1 John 2:26). Lastly, true and genuine believers do not mean they cannot forsake the faith if they choose. Thus, John is firm in his admonition: as he wrote saying *"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked".* Because of the freedom of will to choose that God gave, men can freely choose whether to obey God or not. As God gave us the free will to him before we became Christians, that free will was not taken from us after we became his children. We can still fall from salvation if we choose to deny our faith in Christ. And there is no Biblical reference to support the idea that true believers cannot choose to decide whether to continue with God or not after they have been justified of their faith in Christ. In fact, what we read in Romans 11:22 is the exact opposite, which says --"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." This is the exact analogy described by the Lord in John 15:1-10.
If you can figure this out, kindly consider the following points:
*ONLY* a saved person can depart from the faith, 1 Tim. 4:1, 16; 5:12; 2 Tim. 2:17, 18; 4:3, 4; Jam. 5:19, 20
*ONLY* a believer can stop believing, Luke 8:13; Acts 8:13, 21-23; 1 Tim. 1:18, 19; 6:10, 21; Heb. 10:38
*ONLY* a saved person is in danger of not remaining in the Lord, John 8:31; 15:4-6; Acts 11:13; 1 John 2:24; 2 John 1:9
*ONLY* a branch inserted into the Vine can wither, John 15:6; Rom. 11:20-22
*ONLY* a spiritually alive/saved person can die spiritually again. (the unsaved are already spiritually dead Eph. 2:1, 5) Rom. 8:11-13; 1 Cor. 8:11; 1 Tim. 5:6; Jam. 1:14-16; John 5:16; Rev. 3:1, 2
*ONLY* the saved can stop following God, John 6:66; 10:27; Matt. 10:38; Heb. 3:12; 2 Pet. 2:15
*ONLY* those in grace can fall from grace, 2 Cor. 6:1; Gal. 5:4; Heb. 12:15
*ONLY* someone who loves the Lord can abandon his love for Him, Matt. 10:37; John 15:10; Rev. 2:4
*ONLY* a saved person can deny knowing the Lord, Matt. 10:33; 26:34, 35; 2 Tim. 2:12; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 1:4
*ONLY* a saved person can lose his holiness and with it his future inheritance, 1 Cor. 9:27; 10:12; 15:33, 34; 2 Cor. 6:16-18; 7:1; Gal. 6:1, 7, 8; Ph. 3:18, 19; Heb. 12:14-17; 2 Pet. 1:9-11; 3:17
*ONLY* a saved person is in danger of returning to the sinful ways of the world from where the Lord delivered him, 2 Tim. 4:10; Jam. 4:4; 2 Pet. 2:20-22; 1 John 2:15
*ONLY* a saved person is in danger of losing his perseverance, Acts 14:22; Rom. 2:6-10; Col. 1:21-23; 1 Tim. 2:15.
@@paeng46 we can debate all day throwing verses at each other without grasping the entirety of what these verses really mean, to whom they were addressed to (Jews or Gentiles or both) and to which biblical era they were directed to (past, present or future). I realized we are like the 6 blind men trying to describe an elephant (hope you know that story). Regardless of your denomination biases, please, please, watch this video about biblical dispensation. I understood the verses that support faith+ works and those verses that support faith only, all the more. There was a point in time that one could lose his/her salvation (must be faith + works) but not under grace (the church age -- faith only). However, after the church is raptured, salvation will be once again faith + works. Then during the millennium reign when Christ will be seen by everyone, salvation is no longer by faith but by works only. Why? I don't want to be a spoiler. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/GI4CteEFxOk/v-deo.html
I know it is rather lengthy but if you are a seeker of the truth, it's worth it. Thanks and God bless.
Thanks for having a comment section.
Our pastor has been preaching Exodus for weeks and I want to share something with you. We know the Passover in Exodus is like our salvation through Jesus Christ.
God’s people are ultimately saved by the covering and blood of Jesus Christ, the lamb of God. However there is an added symbol of the leaven wedged in within the story of the Passover we ought not to overlook. The leaven symbolizes sin, and in the New Testament, God tells us leaven can spread like sin and can even be a small bit which can expand and grow into the whole dough lump.
The people were instructed by God to remove every single trace of leaven within their homes, lest they be CUT OFF.
This is an action we must take in accordance to the Will and leading of God to do something to remove sin in our lives. We are called to be holy as He is Holy.
The salvation of the blood of Jesus is not complete without the repentance from sin and the acts to rid our lives of that sin.
So yes a lamb can be slain for you but if you ignore the command to remove sin from your life you may be placed with the hypocrites. The New Testament talks about the leaven which is of Malice and hypocrisy. We do not want to be placed with the hypocrites or cut off from the land of the living God.
We need to be much more careful in working out our salvation and daily seek His face and Will.
The “once saved always saved” doctrine is lacking if all you do is take the Passover lamb but fail to remove the leaven/sin during that period of time you may be placed with the hypocrites and cut off.
Amen! That's a wonderful teaching.
That's true. You need daily faith by grace to apply the blood of jesus on your live his forgivness and by faith you are justified. Faith isnt once and then for always but ongoing.
Yes! You have to overcome, otherwise the Lord can spit you out of His mouth and "blot" your name out of the Book of Life (Rev 3:5 & 16; 21:7-8). Wake up church!
Revelation actually says tree of life not book of life.
@@stephaniesomera8695 Revelation 3:5.
Get your context straight
This is so true He keeps me
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (SUFIYANU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help (WhatsApp or call them now on +2349016292106) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.........
Not just 2 minutes ago I watched your videos on willful continually sin you referenced Esau loosing his salvation in the book of Hebrews !!! I would like some clarification!!!!!
It's better to follow Jesus, not the contradictions of men's teachings.
John 15:4-6
Happy to me😢😢😢l lost salvation
@christocentric Thanks. That teaching is correct. So-called eternal security or "once saved always saved" is false. But Catholicism does not get anyone to be "once saved" in the first place. And I am not saying so-called Reformers are guaranteed to lead anyone to true Biblical redemption either.
You lose your salvation not because you become unborn but because you become disobedient...
1 Corinthians 9:24-27
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win. 25 Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 26 Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air; 27 but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.
Juhani Pitkäkari so hell is full and heaven only has one person in it??
@@kevinhanes2808 Well no he's giving you an idea of how dedicated and disciplined he was. He is giving you an idea of Olympic athletes and their dedication. He is trying to paint a picture or give you an idea of how committed he was to Christ and the Gospel. That's how I interpreted it
Notice how the guy speaking quotes scripture all the way through and is in doing so glorifying God, because that's what the bible does-his commentary glorifies God because it shows what being a child (by adoption) means according to the scriptures. It's God that is our salvation as long as we play our part he gets us through because we have the Holy spirit, your commentary to this come was I, I, I... Na mate God gets you through each and every second of the day and my bible tells me Satan is proud... Listen to the verses this guy quotes and study them. Blessings
He is not talking of loss of salvation.
@Tomcloud I agree Tom, but salvation is not based on our actions, it is based on what God did for man, This faith I put in God saved me. Yes I did NOT deserve it. But he came for ALL of men. OSAS means we believe in the finished works of the cross Jesus did to save man. It takes nothing away from the word of God. God Bless you Tom & your family.
A better name for this channel is Desiring Calvinism.
So with this evidence, is there still anything that could steal our joy? What do we have to worry, or to be sad. Thats just amazing.
All Christians believed it is possible to lose your salvation until in the 15th century John Calvin formulated the doctrine Permanent Salvation. One simply cannot ignore explicit verses taught in the Scripture that it is possible to fall away from faith.
The whole argument of “he’s probably never saved in the first place” in my view is a evasive maneuver and not a solid argument.
It is the true that God secures the elect, but it is also true at the same time if a Christian deliberately chooses to sin against his conscience time after time, that he may drift away from the faith.
Holy Spirt can not be mocked and blasphemed, that should be very clear.