It took DeepMind 10 years to model the folding of all human proteins. The number of molecules it can model in molecular interactions is also limited. We are far from accurately modeling a single human cell, or even a protein complex. Modeling a whole human is one of the most ambitious projects. We will see how it goes…
@@brianmi40 Your statement seems controversial, without agi nothing is going to happen, these LLM just feed on data and can't do anything new, and if we get agi, then why do we even need more humans?
If I found out I was made in a lab, I’d still feel grateful to be alive and I’d still be grateful for the love and support my parents have given me throughout my life, been appreciative of the friends who have helped me, and would still love to fish and ski and do the things I enjoy. Adopted children are happy and enjoy their lives, love their adopted parents etc. Adopted children often are curious about where they came from, specifically where their genes came from. If I was created in a lab using my parents genes I’d still feel a connection to my lineage. If I was created in a lab using engineered genes, I’d feel lost. Like an experiment or almost as if I’m a living accessory. But then again, if my genes were from my parents but altered to take away risk of diseases but everything else stayed the same, not so much. These are complicated issues and we should form our moral framework from the standpoint of the perspective of the humans who will be created in labs.
In vitro gametogenesis (IVG) stands at the frontier of reproductive science, where biology and technology converge to redefine the possibilities of human life. It challenges the boundaries of nature, offering hope to those facing infertility while raising profound questions about the ethics of creation. As we push the limits of science, IVG compels us to reconsider what it means to be human and to procreate.
That's why cellular reprogramming is the real thing coming that will seriously extend lifespan. It's lab demonstrated as working and they just need to test for sideeffects and delivery. First cases are currently expected to be dogs for full lifespan extension, and targeting human eyes for first human application. What's not clear is how many times can we do it, potentially endlessly, reaching escape velocity for aging.
We don’t know what would happen if we replaced every Neuron in our brain with a transistor. It’s possible that we would become fully digital while remaining “conscious” Who knows if this will ever be possible though as the brain has way too many neurons lol
But if it would be an exact copy of your brain at 1 moment, that copy would say its the original with 100% certainty because it feels so, and would have all the memories of its past life from birth to the moment of copy. Its just as with relativity, you can never say which observer is moving, observer 1 says observer 2 is moving, and observer 2 says that observer 1 is moving, both are right.
You know, I read about IVG a year ago, and they did what they are talking about in a primate experiment where they took a skin cell, reverted it back to a stem cell and them turned it into a reproductive cell. And it worked. But there was a major problem, the offspring aged SEVERAL times faster. It was somewhere along the lines of a teenager having the physical age of a 60 year old.
love how development keeps making us rethink ethics, rethink what best and how best shall we approach and progress and redefine what is ok and what is not ok and what once was not that now is
The thing about the Avatar is it would need to be constantly evolving just like our social media algorithms because our personalities keep changing with new experiences. If not, it'll just be an outdated version, it won't always remain an exact replica.
The real question is, should we enable unfertile people to reproduce without fixing their fertility first? I say that because it might spread their genes radically.
Bingo and I still remember the 2021 experiment so I doubt that it is safe from risks at the end of the day what is natural is natural nothing can replace nature
It will make sense for the government to allow everyone to select for intelligence. If they don't, you will inevitably become a colony of a country that did.
Amazing report, I’m not sure if our society is ready for it, it’s scary, but reminds me one of the best science biology movies of 90’s when a world will have perfect and imperfect humans, Gattaca.
Designer babies are the future, whether you like it or not. Virtual twins and AI physicians are a NEED. Being a physician is going to be an almost obsolete job (as obsolete as programmers) in the next 2 decades. Also, immortality is going to be a reality in 3 or 4 decades. People is just underestimating the power of technology. Mark my words.
I still agree with Yann LeCun that we are far from the future of truly digital avatars in 17:58 because we can only feed AI models external data from things like videos and chat logs. They will not know how you felt, what you smelled, what you were thinking during most of your life, only the parts which are documented.
As a person, who's mom, was not too much a mom.... it sucks to not be cared for in a "mom" way, and it can weight a person down in life. Wild animals who need their mom will pretty much die without..
I love technology but act of having a birth changes mother and also creates connection as they share cells with child, so while this is cool, it really can't replace the way we currently bring kids into this world. On the other hand, if we can reduce trauma of birth, it would be cool.
Tech bros in biology. Just because you CAN DO something doesn’t mean you SHOULD DO it. I am certain this tech will be available to everyone, right? Absurd. Pointless.
Bloomberg got hoodwinked by Dassault Systems. 🤣 Saying their virtual twin software can model an entire biological system because it can model an airplane is like assuming someone can jump to the moon because they won a high jump contest. Honestly their software is at the tail end of the pack and they sold this story. This piece took the bait hook, line, and sinker.
@@edgar20146 it's amazing for all the war and conflict of states and states object in the world today... Instead of working to answer real problems like these.
In the 2000s was it crazy to do this or even to think to create humans in laboratory. Now we are starting to normalise this crazy sick thing. What a world we live in, very sad. Today it’s crazy to design your baby to be beautiful or smarter but 20 years this will be normalised. Scary.
Considering this is an invasion of privacy at the grandest scale, consent is the most important ethical obligation that must be withheld. Even so, how would it made clear that consent wasn't fabricated? Edit: debate topic - people farms.
The path to human immortality as a digital being is a slow transition from a fully biological being to a cyborg and finally to a digital entity. Our cells evolve, die and reproduce our whole lives, so by the time we are adults, not much of the original baby or 5-year old exists anymore. Similarly, there is a transition path where we start to augment our brains by interfacing with artificial parts. If you do this very gradually, there's a continuity from the biological human to the artificial one just as there is a continuity from a baby to an adult. As parts of the biological brain & body fail or cease to be relevant, artificial parts will do their work (hopefully relatively seamlesssly). I think this "Ship of Theseus" is the least problematic path to immortality (for those who are willing to take that path). If the resulting artificial being can be paused & snapshotted, then we enter a complicated era where we have to deal with multiple copies of the same entity that was originally a single human. If someone makes a neural network that behaves just like I do and then kills me, I see that as death. If I evolve from a living being to an artificial one, I think it may be something other than death, if there is a continuity of consciousness. I see it as an acceptable and interesting alternavite to dying, but it's probably not something I would be in a rush to do (at least not based on what we know right now).
Emily Chang [3:54], "If IVG becomes viable in humans, it paves the way for a future where infertile couples could have children with their own DNA." Me: Passing on infertile genes to the next generation is an evolutionary bad idea. That generation due to inheriting the infertile genes will thus have to rely on the expensive IVG technology just to have babies of their own. This will be a curse in disguise. This however will be great for the business that offers the technology, since they will be producing potential future reoccurring clients.
Yeah run a portable dialysis back pack machine 24/7 on patient staying in. A pressurized underwater environment for 6 month working out constantly….you could de-age with cloned baby placenta blood and plasma simulating young organs
"There are fields Neo…endless fields, were human beings are no longer born. We are grown."
~ Morpheus ~
Agree, but enslaving other humans is more appealing to humans rather than AI! Why would an efficient machine enslave an inefficient human?
I don't remember who said it first but, I remember the quote that said:
"The matrix is not a movie, it's a documentary"
@@ecoideazventures6417 and why not. we do "enslave" different animals and use them. of course, using humans as "batteries" is a silly idea
@@darcos-i6sKey word “WE”
@@EE-UR ASI will use resources. Humans will be one of them, like different animals are to us. What's wrong with it
These are the best documentaries I've seen in a long time
Where have u been?😅
Get Hulu+ dude these have been out for a while now
Its Chang, its got to be interesting ❤
True dat!
Black Mirror coming to life
black mirror was just foreshadowing.
These technologies have been in development long before Black Mirror aired.
pls no killer robots, ty
@@nigel-uno yes, they based it on previous studies
@@nigel-uno Black Mirror did a great job in bringing the ideas to the screen though, eerily so.
"Avatars that know us better than ourselves" This is already true, our social media recommendation algorithms know us far better than ourselves.
Honestly iam in love with the production and effort made in producing such films , its amazing Emily make more of these
It took DeepMind 10 years to model the folding of all human proteins. The number of molecules it can model in molecular interactions is also limited. We are far from accurately modeling a single human cell, or even a protein complex. Modeling a whole human is one of the most ambitious projects. We will see how it goes…
Since progress is exponential due to AI it will take much less than most everyone expects. And now we already have Alphafold 3.
@@brianmi40 Your statement seems controversial, without agi nothing is going to happen, these LLM just feed on data and can't do anything new, and if we get agi, then why do we even need more humans?
@@brianmi40alphafold is nuts. The speed compared to brute forcing it
The money going into this field is also increasing exponentially as old rich people want a shot at living longer and healthier.
Yeah,they have been saying about this since 50 years
This isn't a pursuit for human advancement, only technological advancement
If I found out I was made in a lab, I’d still feel grateful to be alive and I’d still be grateful for the love and support my parents have given me throughout my life, been appreciative of the friends who have helped me, and would still love to fish and ski and do the things I enjoy.
Adopted children are happy and enjoy their lives, love their adopted parents etc.
Adopted children often are curious about where they came from, specifically where their genes came from.
If I was created in a lab using my parents genes I’d still feel a connection to my lineage.
If I was created in a lab using engineered genes, I’d feel lost. Like an experiment or almost as if I’m a living accessory.
But then again, if my genes were from my parents but altered to take away risk of diseases but everything else stayed the same, not so much.
These are complicated issues and we should form our moral framework from the standpoint of the perspective of the humans who will be created in labs.
I hope they put all the parts of this series in one long documentary 😭🙏🏾
The production level blows my mind every single time. You are living the cyberpunk life 😄
In vitro gametogenesis (IVG) stands at the frontier of reproductive science, where biology and technology converge to redefine the possibilities of human life. It challenges the boundaries of nature, offering hope to those facing infertility while raising profound questions about the ethics of creation. As we push the limits of science, IVG compels us to reconsider what it means to be human and to procreate.
A copy of you is not you. It’s a copy. Your copy would be immortal. Not you.
That's why cellular reprogramming is the real thing coming that will seriously extend lifespan. It's lab demonstrated as working and they just need to test for sideeffects and delivery. First cases are currently expected to be dogs for full lifespan extension, and targeting human eyes for first human application.
What's not clear is how many times can we do it, potentially endlessly, reaching escape velocity for aging.
ai behind the copy would be immortal, copy would just be part.
We don’t know what would happen if we replaced every Neuron in our brain with a transistor. It’s possible that we would become fully digital while remaining “conscious”
Who knows if this will ever be possible though as the brain has way too many neurons lol
But if it would be an exact copy of your brain at 1 moment, that copy would say its the original with 100% certainty because it feels so, and would have all the memories of its past life from birth to the moment of copy.
Its just as with relativity, you can never say which observer is moving, observer 1 says observer 2 is moving, and observer 2 says that observer 1 is moving, both are right.
Yeah, and these ideas and technologies aren't recent they are old ideas and slow progress but I doubt it will escape the lab
You know, I read about IVG a year ago, and they did what they are talking about in a primate experiment where they took a skin cell, reverted it back to a stem cell and them turned it into a reproductive cell. And it worked. But there was a major problem, the offspring aged SEVERAL times faster. It was somewhere along the lines of a teenager having the physical age of a 60 year old.
it's a matter of when not if the tech will mature
love how development keeps making us rethink ethics, rethink what best and how best shall we approach and progress and redefine what is ok and what is not ok and what once was not that now is
Black Mirror S03E04 - "San Junipero"
Or tv show upload
The thing about the Avatar is it would need to be constantly evolving just like our social media algorithms because our personalities keep changing with new experiences. If not, it'll just be an outdated version, it won't always remain an exact replica.
it's really crazy how nobody is talking about the book the elite society's money manifestation
Loving your content, Emily! So glad Bloomberg greenlit your projects
I know it's not the point of the video but the look the dad gives his daughter, at 12:16, is super sweet. He looks very proud of her.
Virtual twins may revolutionize medicine
cybersecurity concerns and weaponization of biological data makes this scarier...imagine
How exactly would that work?
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Yeah that's a problem but that doesn't mean we shouldn't progress.
clone wars
China with superhuman soldier clones.
7:30 I think it occurred before this. Brave New World has artificial wombs and it was written in 1932
It's hubris to want to live post-death.
Is it also hubris to want to get cured from an ailment?
It's not a hubris to want to avoid death
It's crazy to think that this might happen in my lifetime
Wow! This is awesome that they both were saved by this technology.
Thank you Bloomberg for these gems.
BLADERUNNER CLONES ARE GOING TO BE REAL
The real question is, should we enable unfertile people to reproduce without fixing their fertility first? I say that because it might spread their genes radically.
Nonsense…
Unless you are rich, none of these techs are affordable…
Bingo and I still remember the 2021 experiment so I doubt that it is safe from risks at the end of the day what is natural is natural nothing can replace nature
It will make sense for the government to allow everyone to select for intelligence. If they don't, you will inevitably become a colony of a country that did.
This is the case for every new technology and medical treatment. It becomes cheaper over time.
Let intellectuals and truely knowledgable people in this field decide . It's not that easy to come into conclusions as u think..
Same can be said for stem cell therapy, which many athletes can afford to use to treat injuries. What’s your point?
Meow
amazing documentaries!!!
I Believe I'm going to find the secret to life, it's all About Information, and Energy and cycle. Purple light, Information, red light, Restoration.
One of the core elements in the Honor Harrington book series
Amazing report, I’m not sure if our society is ready for it, it’s scary, but reminds me one of the best science biology movies of 90’s when a world will have perfect and imperfect humans, Gattaca.
Just what we need more people!
The military gonna love this. No family, no rights, the State is your mother and proprietor...
Amazing research, love all of the Bloomberg shows with Emily. Shes The besttttt "In dj khalids voice"
Designer babies are the future, whether you like it or not.
Virtual twins and AI physicians are a NEED. Being a physician is going to be an almost obsolete job (as obsolete as programmers) in the next 2 decades.
Also, immortality is going to be a reality in 3 or 4 decades. People is just underestimating the power of technology. Mark my words.
These are the real questions
English England thanking you most kindly
This vid is so Cyberpunk
I still agree with Yann LeCun that we are far from the future of truly digital avatars in 17:58 because we can only feed AI models external data from things like videos and chat logs. They will not know how you felt, what you smelled, what you were thinking during most of your life, only the parts which are documented.
Pantheon on Netflix is an American anime that covers this
This video is fantastic! Thank you!
I do not think I am ready even though I thought am ready for this.🎉
What comfort does it give me that an AI version carries on without me?
As a person, who's mom, was not too much a mom.... it sucks to not be cared for in a "mom" way, and it can weight a person down in life. Wild animals who need their mom will pretty much die without..
Really nice video, very refreshing and eye-opening!
Gorgeous cinematography
Amazing work and really appreciate these great people and scientists.
The Island, we've been there and reality, here it comes.
I love technology but act of having a birth changes mother and also creates connection as they share cells with child, so while this is cool, it really can't replace the way we currently bring kids into this world. On the other hand, if we can reduce trauma of birth, it would be cool.
Emily is always amazing
Emily Chang you are hitting out of the park every time, thank you.
I think Ai and nanobot technology will be the elixir of life
God's law is my only LAW
Tech bros in biology. Just because you CAN DO something doesn’t mean you SHOULD DO it. I am certain this tech will be available to everyone, right? Absurd. Pointless.
It will become available for everyone over time. Like with every technology and treatment.
Having a digital clone of my myself seems very reassuring but terrifying at the same time.
That IVG thing is really cool. Gives infertile people hope
Death is part of being human.
Bloomberg got hoodwinked by Dassault Systems. 🤣 Saying their virtual twin software can model an entire biological system because it can model an airplane is like assuming someone can jump to the moon because they won a high jump contest. Honestly their software is at the tail end of the pack and they sold this story. This piece took the bait hook, line, and sinker.
How can a blood cell (2:00) become a gamete when it does not have a nucleus?
wow the guy at the end, so articulated !
Emily is looking more and more like an actress in Sci-fi movies .
If someone is infertile, there is a reason for it. Should one really reproduce?
What If by accident, eg..accidental.castration?
So, if someone have cancer on gonades when is young, shouldn't have right to have its own children after was cured?
@@edgar20146 it's amazing for all the war and conflict of states and states object in the world today...
Instead of working to answer real problems like these.
The future sucks
What a brave new world
Can i make myself pregnet then transfer my mind to the new body?
Well the black mirror has arrived 😂
Emily, you're already in an avatar.
If you want a fully realized post-death metaverse read Neal Stephenson's novel "FALL".
Pantheon anyone?
Wow scary, I guess people don't need one another after all.
The matrix is watching this to build our pods
is crazy to know I can do this on myself
3:04 Why? Have we run out of children without parents?
What is the name of the song in the intro please?
🎶you ain’t seen nothing yet 🎶
In the 2000s was it crazy to do this or even to think to create humans in laboratory.
Now we are starting to normalise this crazy sick thing. What a world we live in, very sad.
Today it’s crazy to design your baby to be beautiful or smarter but 20 years this will be normalised.
Scary.
We are getting everyday more closer to a world like bladerunner exciting
People gonna be black market selling skin cells from celebrities and athletes.
Its the only for humans to be multi-planetary and multi-galactic.
I recognize the use for radical circumstances. But I still advocating for adoption.
Humans create its own Doomsay soon.
Considering this is an invasion of privacy at the grandest scale, consent is the most important ethical obligation that must be withheld. Even so, how would it made clear that consent wasn't fabricated?
Edit: debate topic - people farms.
The path to human immortality as a digital being is a slow transition from a fully biological being to a cyborg and finally to a digital entity. Our cells evolve, die and reproduce our whole lives, so by the time we are adults, not much of the original baby or 5-year old exists anymore. Similarly, there is a transition path where we start to augment our brains by interfacing with artificial parts. If you do this very gradually, there's a continuity from the biological human to the artificial one just as there is a continuity from a baby to an adult. As parts of the biological brain & body fail or cease to be relevant, artificial parts will do their work (hopefully relatively seamlesssly). I think this "Ship of Theseus" is the least problematic path to immortality (for those who are willing to take that path).
If the resulting artificial being can be paused & snapshotted, then we enter a complicated era where we have to deal with multiple copies of the same entity that was originally a single human.
If someone makes a neural network that behaves just like I do and then kills me, I see that as death. If I evolve from a living being to an artificial one, I think it may be something other than death, if there is a continuity of consciousness. I see it as an acceptable and interesting alternavite to dying, but it's probably not something I would be in a rush to do (at least not based on what we know right now).
this is not rules what biology really holds.
Fly thru a tornado? Hurricaine maybe?
Meta is here
Emily Chang [3:54], "If IVG becomes viable in humans, it paves the way for a future where infertile couples could have children with their own DNA."
Me: Passing on infertile genes to the next generation is an evolutionary bad idea.
That generation due to inheriting the infertile genes will thus have to rely on the expensive IVG technology just to have babies of their own.
This will be a curse in disguise.
This however will be great for the business that offers the technology, since they will be producing potential future reoccurring clients.
10:00 classic johnny ive vibes from the old macbook presentations :p
Oh boy
why didn't you bring up the inevitable consequence of this, a clone army
Yes right . .
Meow meow
So, Pantheon isn't that far.
@6:47 Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg
❤❤🎉health care. VIRTUAL TWIN...ask for the best! The living heart project...🎉THANK YOU 2
If whole child will made in lab without mother then end is near.
Yeah run a portable dialysis back pack machine 24/7 on patient staying in. A pressurized underwater environment for 6 month working out constantly….you could de-age with cloned baby placenta blood and plasma simulating young organs